What do you guys think about the FUNI/CR collaboration? ht

I don't give a fuck about your garbage normalfags site for casual weebs.

>>147246976
Moron.

>>147246976
I'm obviously talking about the effect on the rips provided by horriblesubs here.

If it meant Funi rips would start to have better subtitles, I might be excited, but it probably won't. All it means is crossposting of their own content, and some more dubs I guess?

Seriously though some of funi's subs are awful. Look at Saiki Kusuo no Psi-nan this season.

Ace attorney is getting dubbed so I'm excited

>>147247116
Doesn't change anything yet so far.

I was hoping this means more shows especially niche ones will be simulcasted but it doesn't seem to be that way. These shows will still left unsubbed and no actual sub group bothers to sub them as well.

Ultimately, nothing really changes for those who use horriblesub-rips and discuss stuff here on /a/.
This thing concerns more the paying customers.

>Finally, we will be working together to distribute Crunchyroll titles through Blu-ray, DVD, and Download-to-Own, both dubbed and subbed.

I'm going to assume that Funi is dying and CR will eventually buy them out. I'm not entirely sure how this will end but I have a bad feeling it will have cancer.

>>147247116
Don't tell me that people really use horriblesubs

>>147247791
90% of the time they are the only option.

>>147246732
>28th year of the Heisei period
>Not knowing Japanese

>>147247791
All the time, baby. After all, who the fuck is so dumb and is willing to wait for dumb fansubs to come out weeks or even months after an episode has aired.
Anons want to talk about a show NOW while the impression of it is still fresh in their mind, not eons later when there's already other new shows to be amazed of.

>>147246732
Funi rips are garbage, I hope they won't affect CRs.

>>147247927
There's a chance funi will soon look better than CR.
We have a grim future ahead of us.

What I find disturbing behind this, is that the already highly monopolistic anime market, has almost become fully monopoly.

The only result from this will be even shittier quality subs and an ever spiraling descent into garbage.

>>147248004
>anime market,
No sir.
It's the anime localization market.

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>>147246732
this kind of smells like someone from funimation got payed to come here to spread the news

anyways, want a serious opinion? yes, it might affect normal subs if they deliver everthing faster than the others but frankly, only weebs like streaming...then again, this site is slowly becoming the new reddit, in 10 years, all tumblrfags will become part of this site's main navigators and when this happen, then i'll be ok to ask if you are really exited about crunchyshit and funimation.

>>147247791
But anon, how else am I supposed to participate in epique memeposting in here, because that's what totally the most important.

>>147248004
this

>>147248022
You knew what I meant.

>>147248112
Dude is your shift key broken? That must suck.

daiz already mentioned it but expect a drop in quality

>>147246976
Hope your knee doesn't hurt too badly.

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So funi is in deep because they realized most people don't give two shits about all their dubs and needs crunchy money to help them get by?

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>>147248107

Honest question, why would this mean an end to horriblesubs?
They rip from both funimation and crunchyroll, and they will still rip from both after these two streaming services are forming a partnership.

>>147248301
>an end
No one said that. We're talking about quality.

>>147248301
Hardsubs anon.

>>147246732
If you support either of these two, you're a fucking IDIOT cancer killing anime. I'd honestly threaten people that aid CR or Funimation if I saw em.

>>147248398
Tough internet words.

>>147248398
CR is OK funi is shit but I don't pay for them.

>>147247791
I only do when there is no other option available.

>>147248107
This needs a tongue hanging out of the mouth.

Hopefully Funi rips will have better, non-hardsubbed subs in the future.

>>147248488
And two hands doing a V sign?

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>>147248398
I know you're being sarcastic but its thanks to them that we can actually get more anime subbed instead of one single anime getting subbed by three fansub groups.

They didn't really kill fansubbing so much as break the legs of attention whores, there is still a bunch of anime that hasn't been subbed but they refuse to do it because its not famous enough and won't make their epeen bigger

>>147248112
>this kind of smells like someone from funimation got payed to come here to spread the news.

No,i just want to know if my shitsub rips will be affected by this change. Chances are that the FUNI releases soon can be ripped from CR's site,thus making them slightly better.

This is bad for the anime industry. It'll put an end to bidding wars, causing the industry to get paid less for their shows.
Only possible upside is that more becomes avaible on Crunchyroll, giving more exposure and higher sales of merchandise.

>>147247791
To be fair, for tv releases it doesn't usually matter too much unless it's funi or CR is fucking up harder than usual.

>>147248541
The more important thing is the terrible re-encoding they do for absolutely no reason.

>>147248609
What other competition is there? Daisuki?

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>>147248609
Nigger, are you trying to say that selling the rights to show anime to the west affects their revenue? How fucking retarded can you possibly be?

>>147247191
Funi's subs aren't even the biggest issue, it's their god awful encodes.

>>147248667
CR, Funi, Daisuki, Hulu and amazon prime.

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>>147246732
>What do you guys think about the FUNI/CR collaboration?

It's like cancer and syphilis have combined to a new super disease. Your body rots away while regenerating at the same time consequently keeping you alive.

>>147248728
You really think CR or Funi has enough money to compete with Amazon or Netflix? Hulu releases anime now?

>>147248694
Actually, yes, it does. We're talking about 2,5 million dollars for the single license of one popular show alone, paid upfront right now. And that's only from the American market alone. Add in the other foreign market, and it is proof that yes, streaming services are important for the Japanese IP owner.

Also, just so you know, there are more than 20 streaming services in Japan too making good and important money.

>>147248694
>>147248789
The licensing prices for anime almost hit market value - and that's the precise reason why these two are now planning to cooperate. They refuse to pay at market value for anime.

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T-time to start

>>147248667
Netflix.

>>147248789
>2,5 million dollars
Does anyone have any goddamn stats on how much CR/Funi pay for shows? I hear a lot of numbers and vague statements thrown around but never any graphs or shit and I can never find any on google.

>>147248774
Hulu had that VN making show a few seasons ago. It was even worse than Funi. Forgot about netflix. Amazon and netflix don't really go that much into the amine realm so I wouldn't really worry about them. The Shigatsu threads we have here all the time is the netflix normal fags coming to /a/ for some reason.

>>147248873
>>147248789
>We're talking about 2,5 million dollars for the single license of one popular show alone
Jesus fuck you retard
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.342045-Court-Documents-Reveal-Anime-Licensing-Costs
Guyver 746,665
Comic Party 30,336
Jinki:Extend 91,000
Pani Poni Dash! 138,666
Utawarerumono 109,201
Moeyo Ken 43,335
Coyote Ragtime Show 224,000
UFO Ultramaiden Valkyrie 21,335
Nerima Daikon Brothers 124,800
Air Gear 780,000
Sgt. Frog 408,000
Le Chevalier D'Eon 440,000
Ghost Train/Synesthesia 58,668
Kurau: Phantom Memory 960,000
009-1 325,000
Shin Angyo Onshi 130,000
Ah! My Goddess 2 (Ah! My Goddess: Flights of Fancy) 516,000
Innocent Venus 120,000
Pumpkin Scissors 780,000
Red Garden 660,000
Welcome to the NHK 240,000
Magikano 65,000
Xenosaga 120,000
Tokyo Majin 780,000
Project Blue Earth SOS 180,000
Yamato Nadeshiko Shichi Henge (The Wallflower) 500,000
Air TV Series 145,000
Air: The Movie 20,000
Moonlight Mile 156,000
King of Bandit Jing in Seventh Heaven 50,000

>>147246732

They should burn.

>>147247791
>Asenshi

>>147248892
>no Naruto in the list
So there's evidently higher licensing costs.

>>147248884
>Shigatsu
Fuck you m8, I like it because its a music anime

>>147247791

I don't.

Only retards with zero patience take them.

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>>147248892
I'm literally fucking retarded. How did I not find this.
Thanks.

>>147248892
And then you have the real big awaited hits like My Hero Academia.

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Wew. I was so against learning Jap because I thought it would eb a waste of time and energy. I guess I'll do it on the side with my degree. It'll probably take me 5 years.

>>147248398
Is it ok if I pirate their rips?

>>147248892
>2012
>no super big hits on the list
So I guess 2.5M is pretty much confirmed then.

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Look I'd just like to remind everyone funi often gets broadcast quality shit mailed to them on hard drives because Japan considers them one of the big boys and deigns to do so.

That I can rip commercial Jap blu rays and literally produce a better product in my god damn garage is actually one of the most triggering things in the world.

I would stab people to get my hands on those hard drives.

>>147248956
It is absolutely terrible in all aspects. The music you like has been around for hundreds of year. They don't even complete the scores because of emo tendencies.

>>147249015
>funi often gets broadcast quality shit mailed to them on hard drives because Japan considers them one of the big boys and deigns to do so.
Does Japan know what funi does with the hard drives?

>>147249015
Japan is literally oblivious to the outside world so you can't blame them for using Funi.

>>147247861

>being this normalfag

I bet you have a Jewbook account too.

>>147249052
They don't care. They care about the money. How gaijins view anime is the problem of gaijins.

>>147249035
On that front I do agree, its underwhelming and annoying how they always stop instead of completing the scores

>>147247688
best case scenario the western audience will start to even out the asian waifufags.
not saying basic bitches here have any better taste, it's just different and it might promote good stuff that happens to catter to their interests. I'm pretty bored that the only shows that take risks need moe girls to justify themselves.

>>147248295
perfect

>>147247847

Are you retarded?

Just kill yourself.

>>147249131
You're a fucking retarded newfag.

>>147249171
Not watching the anime is a stupid option.

>>147248254
Daiz is a fucking retard. The only thing Crunchyroll gets out of the deal is being the sole provider of subs and they get some Funi shows. Funi gets to provide simuldubs for its fans who don't read subs or are just casuals. They'll also probably get some shows from Crunchyrolls catalog.

>>147249199

>can't wait for the BDs

This is the true face of retardation.

>>147249286
Sorry, I like discussing anime with other people.

>>147249220
Of course. Crunchyroll-licensed shows like Mob Psycho 100, Orange and 91 Days are already confirmed to be getting Funimation-dubs.

>>147249331

>being this normalfag

You don't belong here. Please fuck off and kill yourself.

>>147249352
How else was CR able to announce that it's going into the home video market? It was either partnering with Bang Zoom or Funimation.

>>147247191
>If it meant Funi rips would start to have better subtitles
They won't. At best we get what are they now only not hardcoded, at middle ground we get Dasuki-tier typeset, and at worst harsubs with Dasuki-tier typeset.

>>147249395
nice false flag my friend

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>>147249395

>>147248892
Don't simulcasts and DVD releases have different licensing costs? Or is that not right?

>>147248884
Well amazon contributed money for the production of Kabaneri, and Netflix got exclusive rights to the first season of Kuromukuro. I think that as these companies start to expand to a more global audience (especially Amazon as they already have a large overseas presence, especially in Japan, and as a former employee you see indications of JP Amazon's influence everywhere) so not being worried about Amazon or Netflix in anime might be a bit of a snap judgment. Those companies already have a catalog of older shows.

>>147249543
Simulcasts are cheaper while DVD licensing is more costly thanks to the increased pricing

>>147247791
Shit bait, friend.

>>147248112

>only weebs like streaming

Wait, the fuck? Lazy normies are weebs now?

>>147248398

>killing anime

How

>>147249672
>normies

>>147249607
So does funi/cr have to buy simulcasting and DVD licensing rights? If they do then they give more money to the east than I thought.

>>147248892

Surprised Nerima Daikon Brothers even cracked six figures

>>147249744
Simulcasting rights have recently spiked. They used to be really cheap, which is how CR got as big as it is today.

>>147249727

Anon, you misunderstand. I've been called a lazy normie because I like streaming. Now I'm a weeb, too? Which one is it? If I'm the weeb, what does that make the average /a/non?

>>147249744
CR only bought simulcast with Funi choosing DVD but now that they are fusing I honestly don't know who they will split the costs but if the rumors of Funi being on a rather dire situation CR will probably fuck them harder than ever to buy them later

>>147249830
No, you misunderstand.
"normie" is not a term you use on /a/.
Lurk more.

I have a CR account because I support the anime industry unlike you leeches.

>>147249849
Probably a dumb question but if you buy simulcasting rights can another company buy the DVD licensing rights?

>>147249855

I literally got called a normie by one of the other faggots here the last time this shit came up, but okay.

>>147249395
If you don't like discussing anime what the fuck are you doing here?

>>147249927
Of course.
The question is whether the two companies would trade subs between them or dub tracks or whatever.
With this deal being made, that question is answered.

>>147249978
I see thanks. Really cleared up a lot of my confusion about CR and Funi.

>>147249959
When people call you a normie on /a/, you are welcome to redirect them to /r9k/.

>>147249927
Sure. Crunchyroll-licensed shows were for example sold by other companies like Sentai Filmworks.

>>147249978
They never trade anything unless there is a contract, more often than not you will see differences between simulcast subs and dvd subs, simulcast they do a rush job while dvd they tkae their time to do it

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>>147246732

It doesn't concern me because I get region cock-blocked so I don't care.

>>147250172
HS has no region block.

>>147249750
That was back when Nabeshin was the shit.

>>147249973
Shitposting.

>>147250026
>>147249959
alternatively you can
>>>/v/
them.

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>>147249707
Because it opens anime more to fucking normie cancer? Those faggots that use MAL as a resource will find all their disgusting front page needs on CR and Funimation nowadays. And the catalogue only gets larger and larger, killing fansubs.

It's fucking disgusting.

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>>147247791
Yes. Which is why these threads are, unfortunately, relevant to /a/ right now.

>>147247688
I mostly get it to Netflix getting into anime and tossing ridiculous licensing money in the general direction of Japan.

Funi and CR either cooperate and survive, or bicker while Netflix eclipses them one at a time.

>>147250809
>normie
>killing fansubs.
Lurk more.

Fansubs were always rare. There was a short period of time when publicly available translations created a huge community of fansub groups that competed against each other with their encoding "skills", but before that, you got 5 shows per season, and 1 episode per month for anything that wasn't hyped to hell and back.

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>implying /a/ users stream anime

>>147250809

>killing fansubs

please.

>>147250995
>not knowing of simulcasts
>not knowing of /a/ streams events

>>147246732
Not much since i will continue downloading my anime.

>>147249919
You aren't you are better off buying the BD or any other merchandise.

>>147250809
Hello newfag, go back to /v/, that is the place that human waste like you belong to

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>>147250169

>>147251411
i dont have a blu ray player

>>147251411
He makes it up by being one of 700k poorfags giving enough money to Crunchyroll to pay millions for anime.

There's a certain quality in quantity.

>>147251816
So?

>>147251870
>He makes it up
No, others are making up for it.

>>147251411
using CR and buying BD arent mutally exclusive do you buy BD's of every show you watch?

>>147251934
Do you actually want to support every anime you watch?

>>147249973

Telling normalfags to fuck off.

Honestly I don't even know why I even come to this place.

>>147252057
Ideally, people like you would be banned for shitposting.

>>147252099

This place has changed. Back in the days you would be the people to get banned, and this thread would've been deleted after a few minutes.

But now you younglings are the majority and mods don't care anymore. This is just sad.

>>147252299
Please don't try to fit in.

>>147252354
If he was trying to fit in he'd be supporting your narrative.

>>147252354

Whatever you say, newfag. Whatever you say.

>>147252043

CR is comparatively cheap, i cant buy every show on BD

>>147252438
CR also pumps most of its revenue into expensive licenses like Naruto.

>i cant buy every show on BD
That's why I am asking. Do you actually *want* to support every show you watch?
There's other ways besides BDs by the way. Posters, figmas, soundtrack CDs...

>>147252413
No. He's trying to fit in by pretending to be an oldfag.

>>147252589
Ne, he's trying and succeeding at trolling.

>>147249131

Kill yourself.

yfw this only means CR will release Funi dubs

>>147252589

Says the one who has been visiting /a/ since this summer.

>>147252510
>CR also pumps most of its revenue into expensive licenses like Naruto.

but arguably naruto is why CR is as big as it is.

>Do you actually *want* to support every show you watch?

if i didnt enjoy a show , i wont get BD's obv, but CR at least pays something. and figs / CDs mostly require import and i CBA

>>147253059
That's why I know that he's fitting in. He's my buttbuddy.

>>147253196
>figs / CDs mostly require import
So would BDs, unless you want to buy local, in which case you're losing way too much money on the middleman again.

Look, I'm not trying to convert you or anything. I don't buy to support either.
I buy localized manga, and that's because I like to have a physical library that I can read.

Do whatever the fuck you want. Just be aware of what effect you have and what effect you could have if you wanted to. Subscribing to CR and considering yourself a supporter of anime is stupid.

>>147251026
>/a/ streams events

This is the only accept time to do it so you watch it with other faggots to laugh at. I doubt I could've stomach SAO without others to laugh at with.

>>147246732
No more shit funi piss quality hardsubs? I'll gladly take it.

>>147253340
why would i import a hidieously expensive product in a language i cant speak, 2 epidodes at a time.

> Subscribing to CR and considering yourself a supporter of anime is stupid.

there are comments up above with licensing values, do you really believe that CR doesnt support anime?

>>147254348
It's just a pissing contest between buyfags and streamfags about who supports the anime industry better.

>>147248667
>What other competition is there? Daisuki?

Well, Daisuki's certainly taken notice. They've been expanding their catalog and rolling out a paid premium service.

Still doesn't compare to the size of CR's catalog, though.

>>147254348
>do you really believe that CR doesnt support anime?
CR definitely pays for streaming licenses.
But of your subscription fee, only a small part actually goes to Japan. Most of that small part goes to shows you don't want to receive support. The shows you like will not receive anything worth mentioning from you, unless you like entrylevel shows.

The subscription fees have recently grown too high for the likings of CR. That does not mean that they grew out of proportion. They approached a reasonable level by free market law. The total amount of your subscription fee was obviously still much smaller than if you'd spent that money in Japan, but whatever.
Now they are forming an alliance with funi, and that means that streaming licenses will drop in price again.

You are factually supporting Japan, but by such a small margin that it's unreasonable to think of it as actual support. Giving your children 5pence per month doesn't count as giving them an allowance.

>>147248118
raws
as he said
>garbage normalfags site for casual weebs.

>>147254647
Raws have worse encoding than CR rips.

>>147254599
and if CR and funi cant afford to license, japan recieves nothing, also less CR rips for you to torrent

> You are factually supporting Japan, but by such a small margin that it's unreasonable to think of it as actual support.

do you make the same argument about netflix?

if japanese companies wanted they could eng sub everything and put it up for paid download/ streaming but they dont, so i pay the way they want me too.

>>147255134
>if CR and funi cant afford to license
They can. That's the reason the prices rose so high in the first place. CR and funi were outbidding each other. They just didn't LIKE paying that much when they were used to getting money for free.

>do you make the same argument about netflix?
I don't fucking care about western movie makers. They are rich enough.

>if japanese companies wanted they could eng sub everything
An increasing amount of them do put English subs on their BDs. But to sell their anime outside of Japan is quite difficult without middlemen.

>>147254348
>comments up above with licensing values
Which were based on DVD licensing. Simulcasts are much cheaper although they're raising in prices now.

>>147255134
>if japanese companies wanted they could eng sub everything and put it up for paid download/ streaming
I've always wondered why studios don't employ translators who are actually talented and do sub work in-house. Surely if they cut out the middleman (CR/Funi/etc) they'd make more from the western market than they do by licensing stuff, no?

>>147247791
what`s the problem with horriblesubs
actual question not a bait

>>147246732
The best possible outcome if streaming is going to be a thing. Anime led the way for consuming entire seasons in one sitting and the medium is gaining a lot of traction because most shows work well in "binge" culture. Watching week to week is fucking ass, I don't see how people pretend to like it at this point.

>>147255447
Depends on the rip honestly.
CR: Usually decent, often outdone in quality by higher end fansub groups.
Funi: Shit video quality, shit subs, sucks ass.

>>147255340
Translating doesn't take a huge amount of skill. What do you think is wrong with most subs?

>>147255340
It's not worth it, and the costs of the translation into several languages can be passed onto the license buyers. In fact, they make even more money by selling the right to make the official translation for it.

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>>147255626
>Translating doesn't take a huge amount of skill.

>>147255714
Plenty of people are fluent in Japanese. Crafting a good script out of the Japanese source isn't difficult beyond that.

>>147255803
Hadena pls

>>147255626
I didn't mean to imply that there's anything wrong with most subs, just that if a studio were looking to hire English-speaking staff, they'd want people with certifiable skill in the field, as opposed to just random fansubbers.
>>147255703
Fair enough. I wonder what the revenue to effort ratio is, though.

>>147247791
I just need the subs to translate some obscure jargon or exposition talks, I can follow 95% of the conversations otherwise.

>>147255864
>I wonder what the revenue to effort ratio is
Depends on the language you are translating to.

>>147255803
Translating something in an understandable manner isn't difficult. 'Actually' translating something is extremely hard. Not that it changes much in the case of most media, including most anime, but it's completely wrong to say that it's in any way "easy".

>>147246976
If you just stream it you are not doing anything to support the creators. Then people complain about anime dieing. People use the sites to support the industry.

>>147250971
>Fansubs were always rare.
Hello underage b&

Fansubs are the entire reason anime got big outside of Japan.

>>147255994
If you knew Japanese why would you find it difficult? The hard part is knowing good english and japanese, that's it. There are plenty of people who know both walking around hence why it's not something someone can be paid well for. The original post was asking why studios don't just buy better translations.

>>147256508
Nobody is denying that fansubs started the market off.
But do you know how FEW anime people had at the beginning?

>>147247791
>wait a week after first eps air
>check sub groups
>ALWAYS go with the best non horriblesubs group
>most of the time horriblesubs is the only group
Probably the only non horriblesubs show I've watched as it aired this year is Macross Delta, because the songs make CR, Funi, Daisuki, etc stay the fuck away for license cost reasons

>>147256610
There were hardly any TV anime airing in the early 90s, this trend of 500 shows per year has only stared in the last 6 years or so.

>>147256854
>more anime in the past 6 years
Please don't be an idiot anon. There are way less shows now than in 2006

>>147255626
Stop talking out of your ass.

>>147256854
>There were hardly any TV anime airing in the early 90s,
And they still didn't manage to sub them all.

>>147257046
>tlfag is mad

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>>147257027
Here's every TV anime that aired in 2003

And here's ONE SEASON of TV anime that aired in 2015 https://my.mixtape.moe/ydmmrz.jpg

98 shows in a year vs 58 shows in a few months

>>147250971
Fansubs as a matter of fact were always more prolific than commercial options at any point in time before CR.

>>147257285
Good thing I nver said anything about 2003

>>147257384
I'm not denying that. That isn't the point.

>>147257408
Neither did he speak of 2006. He said early 90s. Just stop it already. You're being stupid.

>>147257408
It's fucking irrelevant, I'm not making my own chart of all the anime from 2006 just to call you a retard. The point is that it's only been in the last few years that there have been hundreds of shows airing per year, historically it's been relatively low and a higher percentage of them were subbed even before commercial streaming, much less localized DVD releases.

>>147257533
>a higher percentage of them were subbed even before commercial streaming,
A very low percentage of them were subbed anywhere close to their broadcasting date.

>>147257533
Most of the "hundreds" of anime airing each year now are shorts at 3 minutes each episode, and are mostly irrelevant to modern anime fandom.
Not saying there isn't more anime now than before, but the minutes/year peaked maybe two years ago or so.

>>147257447
>Neither did he speak of 2006. He said early 90s.
No retard, he said
>this trend of 500 shows per year has only stared in the last 6 years or so.
when I know for a fact that Spring 2006 had 60 shows

>>147257533
>I'm not going to risk proving myself fucking wrong
that's what I thought

>higher percentage of them were subbed even before commercial streaming
Was that ever in doubt?

>>147257598
Wrong.
>>147257650
They're still TV anime, and even removing all of the shorts there would still be more shows per year than there were ten plus years ago.
>>147257665
Apparently it is.

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>>147246732
>This entire thread
I want to vomit

>>147257665
>No retard, he said
>>this trend of 500 shows per year has only stared in the last 6 years or so.
You missed the important part, his post was about a time before the japanimization craze - ie early 90s. But even so, you should have noted the "or so". He didn't care to make a precise statement, just a rough generalization to make a point.

>>147257693
>Wrong.
Actually, no. You're completely and utterly wrong.

>>147257805
No, I'm not. Most of the shows on that list were subbed in some fashion before 2004.

>>147257447
It's %100 the point. The lifeblood of the fandom was fansubbing.
At any point whatever the commercial entities were distributing fansubbing had them beat.
You can't possibly call that rare, and the assertion than only four or 5 shows were being done before the internet is ludicrous. Just my videostore in the 90s had more series / ovas than I can remember.

>>147257693
For talking about content of anime we should also account for shifts in production cycles. Double cour seasons used to be common, now it's gotten pretty rare. We also see stuff like split cour anime pretty frequently, which would count as two anime under modern production, while they would have been one anime ten years ago, despite having the same content.

>best [x] experience
>streaming
i don't think so fammi

>>147257847
>You can't possibly call that rare, and the assertion than only four or 5 shows were being done before the internet is ludicrous.
I never said 4 or 5 total. I said 5 (to 10) per season. Why are you changing my lines only to prove me wrong?
Are you just trying to troll?

>>147257832
>Most of the shows on that list were subbed in some fashion before 2004.
At 5 to 10 being translated seasonally, and others being translated delayed, and less than 100 in total, that comes out as roundabout right.

>>147257982
>per season
What does this even mean? The cadence in the 90s was yearly series.

>>147258086
Not like you'd know very much about that outside of Japan. You had to rely on whatever VHS you could get your hands on.

I have a CR subscription that I pay just so I can feel justified using HS.

>>147257285
Wanna know whats different in the past from now? ANime didn't have 12/13 episodes as a norm, they were most if not all 26 episodes at least, that is why there were less anime them and yet those anime that did air were not all subbed,you can pretend all you want but you were not around the time on the internet to see how fucking infuriating it was to not have subs and even when you wanted to sub something the group would rather sub something that was famous instead of interesting.

Suck my fucking cock you faggot you will never stop being a newshit

>paying for streaming anime where 90% of your money goes to the next season of Boruto
>paying for anime at all
Kill yourselves, you don't belong here or on this earth.

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>>147258224
>this mad over being proven wrong

>>147250809
Holy fuck kill yourself you hipster faggot

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How many more times de we need to have this thread? Everyone has seen the news and most people think exactly the same way as you, OP. Whether that will actually happen or not is just a guess at this point.
>>147249286
>waiting for BDs that might not even get subbed
Sorry, but I like watching anime and I'd rather do it as it airs, especially for anime-original things.
I bet you're one of those that throws a fit whenever any single frame in the middle of a motion sequence looks off.

>>147246976
Why do you bother coming into this thread and writing this if you're not bothered by it some way or another? Are you autistic or something?

>>147247791
Good one mate. Fansubbing died many years ago.

Fansub groups are a lot less prominent because of CR/HorribleSubs. Getting decent subs of non-CR shows is much more difficult than the days of 5 different sub groups competing for internet dick points.

I'm ok with the industry finally figuring out the need for simulcast to satisfy the market.

People will always go the easiest route to get what they want.

VHS Fansubs (send in blank tape, get copy of show sent back) then Digi-Subs (mIRC, DC, etc) then BitTorrent Sub distribution now simulcast through paid service.

Remember Napster kids?

>>147250912
Netflix barely has any anime right now because of Funi and CR.