Why is writing in anime always fucking terrible? Name me a series

>>147177887
Gungrave. Good writing, terrible everything else.

>>147177887
Because Japanese is too different a language from English to be translated accurately without sounding awkward.

>>>/wsr/

>>147178308
It's not a request. It's a question about writing in anime and why it is the way it is

Because "otaku" style writing is the selling point to begin with.

You need to be more subtle

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>good writing
this meme again, what the fuck do you guys consider good writing?

>>147177963
I don't think we're talking about sentence structure. Also, you can rearrange the sentence in whatever order you want, this claim doesn't make much sense. I mean, yes, there are some particles, but in general Japanese is actually a very primitive and undeveloped language. To give one example, there are no verb tenses other than present and past (called "perfective" and "imperfective"). Thankfully, our Western languages give us Infinitives, Gerunds, Participles, Indicative/Subjunctive/Imperative moods, etc.
I think OP was referring to the actual content (the idea behind the sentence), not the organization of words in the sentence.

>>147178785
the opposite of bad writing

>>147178785
So no anime ever has any of those problems?

Go fuck yourself

>>147178803
I didnt know languages had tiers of development.

Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

>What is FMA???
>What is Jojo???
>What is Fate/stay night???

>>147179013
I will be brutally honest, at first it may seem like I am a man from the 1800's arguing for colonization. But all languages are not equal. Having studied many languages, I can attest to the fact that some languages simply lack mechanical features that our Western languages have. Of course, one can make due without these features, and the numerous books which have been translated from more primitive languages (such as Japanese) prove that there can be "good writing" even in a more primitive language.

>>147179013
They have differences in complexity. Just in terms of tenses, English is less complex than languages like Greek, which makes translating certain things faithfully (like a certain very famous book) nearly impossible without pages of annotations.

>>147179097
Hey dude Im a linguistic and you are full of shit.
Languages dont come in tiers nor are they always evolving to a more perfect form
They are alive and change to suit the needs of its users there are plenty of ways a japanese person can express himself with that does not exist in English and viceversa

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>>147179013
Ancient Greek and Latin were the most highly developed in history. Modern languages, English included, are mostly a corruption of those due to contact with lesser, uncivilized tribes from outside the empire. However, Western languages still retain some of their influence, and are therefore superior to languages like Japanese that were never under Roman rule.

>>147179153
More complex/harder to use does not mean better. Its just how things turned out, its all a very random process after all.

>>147178803
Why do you bring up tenses but then start talking about infinitives, gerunds, etc? Also why did you capitalize those words? Do you even know what tense means? And do you know proper capitalization rules?

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>>147177887
>watches only shonenshit and haremshit
>comes from reddit or /v/
>complains about bad writing
Fuck off retard

>>147179092
>Fate
>good writing
pick one

>>147179216
Is this what american education teaches you?
Languages cannot be measured by development.

>>147179092
>a manga
>a manga
>a VN

>>147179217
I didn't say better. But a more complex language is by its very nature more comprehensive and useful than a less complex one. Think about "Newspeak" from 1984. It's a dumbed-down language that existed to make certain ideas literally inexpressible. It is by all rights a worse language than English.

I'm not saying anything about Japanese, I'm just very interested in language.

>>147179182
I never said that. I said that there are, in my opinion, some languages that are better than others. I never said, either, that they are evolving into a more perfect form. English is actually regressing in my opinion. I said that there are great Western languages that have more "features" than Japanese, which you also admit. In addition, I question weather you actually read my full post because I also affirm, as you do, that there have been great literary successes in Japan translated abroad despite its lack of "features"
>>147179222
Of course I know what tenses are. Past Present Future (many languages have more than that, for example English has Progressive Tenses and Perfect Tenses). Infinitives, gerunds, etc. I listed because they are great things that came about due to our great Western languages. I, of course, know the capitalization rules of English but I am very tired and exhausted, so excuse my poor usages.

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>>147178803
Easy there, nerd.

>>147178803
because japanese has more specific verbs than us for the future. oku, naru, tsumori. i can't believe you wrote all that nonsense but don't even know the basics.

>>147178803
Is this supposed to be sarcasm.

>>147179367
Progressive is an aspect not a tense you dipshit. You can have the present progressive ("You are being a fucking retard"), the past progressive ("You were being a fucking retard"), and so on, but not just progressive by itself. Same goes for perfect. Infinitives and gerunds are modified forms of verbs that aren't even close to tenses or aspects.

>>147179511
I know that. But I did not want to write the same thing nine more times
Past Progressive
Past Perfect
Past Perfect Progressive
etc.
Because I am lazy and that would be a long ass list.

>>147179271
>OPs example came from an LN
Fuck off.

Pic not related?

I don't think re:zero has bad writing at all. Certainly not citizen kane, but if anything, it has bad storytelling rather than writing.

>>147179367

Japanese has an imperative tense, progressive tense, and gerunds. It actually makes more distinction between progressive tense and gerunds than English, which rather messily lumps both into adding "-ing" to a verb.

Japanese also has a rather elaborate system for indicating the social status of the listener relative to the speaker, which is not too common in other languages.

tldr; different languages are different and do different things. Latin is not "better" for having a billion declensions, cases, and conjugations.

>>147179605
OP didn't say pic related.
Checkmate atheist.

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>>147177887
>name me a series with good writing
>Protip: You Can't

so no one can convince you but you want them to, and this somehow isn't a rec thread?

Yeah, no.

>>>/wsr/

>>147179561
It's possible to be concise without misusing technical terms. In any case, I don't think an autistically complex verb system like what Russian has is indicative of being a superior language.

>>147179612
I haven't even watched that thing and I can guarantee you that it has dogshit writing or storytelling which by the way I have no idea how you can separate them.

>>147180022
you can have good writing fucked by bad storytelling or have a strong plot ruined by awful writing.

>>147179739
>Protip: You Can't
Wow hownew.ru

>>147180187
But how do you tell the difference?

>>147179849
Russian is less "good" in my opinion because it does not follow a Latin alphabet (like all Eastern languages, it must be "romanized")
>>147179645
>Japanese has an imperative tense, progressive tense, and gerunds. It actually makes more distinction between progressive tense and gerunds than English, which rather messily lumps both into adding "-ing" to a verb.
Well that confusion in English just happens to do with the fact that our progressive form and gerund happen to share the same ending. It does not have to be this way.

>>147180535
Are you kidding me? The Latin alphabet is shit-tier for anything that's not Latin or closely related to it. Just look how badly English abuses the Latin alphabet. Better to have a system where you can actually spell things phonetically and understandably.

No anime/manga/VN is perfect, but my god does Umineko come close to literary perfection. Words do not describe how close to perfection it comes. Like if you tried to get to 1 from 0 by dividing the remaining difference by 2, that's how close to perfection it comes.

>>147180593
The inconsistencies of pronunciation of English words is due to the varying etymologies of the words. It is also complicated because English, unlike other Latin languages, lacks accent markings. Romance languages show Latin alphabet "done right"

>>147178803
it's "perfect" and "imperfect". Also that's bullshit. Japanese most certainly has infinitives, (which are unconjugated verb forms) and imperative and...I'm not going to bother finishing because you're so full of shit.

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>>147177887
>Why is writing in anime always fucking terrible?

watch better anime you damn loser

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>>147180022
>I haven't even watched that thing
Fuck off you Pretentious retard

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>>147177887
There is nothing wrong with Re Zero

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>>147180593
>>147180535
>>147179645
>>147179367
>>147179182

YAMETE!

>>147178785
Cringe'd

>>147181482
>callling anyone a loser, when you browse /a/, 4chan and watches anime
hahahaha. Shit guide btw, kill yourself.

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>>147182854
>the maids arc
>interesting plot of satoru gaining the trust of people who will kill him
>get to know the personalities of every character in the mansion
>get to know what causes those characters to kill him
>this is gonna have a cool conclusion
>hey remember that one time Satoru went to the village to buy some shit?
>WELL THE PLOT IS NOW ABOUT THAT INSTEAD
>GOTTA SAVE THOSE KIDS THAT WE SAW FOR 45 SECONDS EACH EPISODE
>I FEEL A MASSIVE EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO THEM AND THE VILLAGE
>LOL FIGHTING GENERIC ANIME FANTASY WOLVES
but why

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>thread is about writing as in how a plot/characters is developed
>suddenly it turns into a pure semantic argument between a couple of autists that took it far too literally

>>147183081
>satoru
Come again?

>>147181191

Dude compare Japanese simplicity to Spanish, Russian, German and French. I studied Japanese for a year, the hardest thing so far is the writing, the rest is a piece of cake. Easier than english, which is a broken simplified language

>>147183172
But see this way they can keep being right and not accidentally say something uninformed, like an opinion, on an anonymous image board and feel intellectually inadequate

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>>147183052
>>callling anyone a loser, when you browse /a/, 4chan and watches anime
>hahahaha. Shit guide btw, kill yourself.
you are as bad as him desu

>>147183173
fuck i got my chink names mixed up
Subaru then ya cunt

>>147183172
>calling anyone an autist while posting weeb shit
Ayy

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>>147183081
You don't seem to understand at all anon
i'm not going to try to explain it to you because you won't get it you didn't pay enough attention and are just trying to hate it

The state of this board is very depressing.

>streaming
Fuck off.

I think twelve kingdoms handles teenage angst and problems in early tomes really well.

>>147179234
Kek

>>147177887
>Streaming
>>>reddit

>>147183325
I wish they were all out in English. One of the few LN I could read in public since Spice & Wolf stopped including the dust jackets.

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>>147183297
I miss it

>>147183081
>Subaru dies from the curse multiple times before figuring out what it is
>gets killed by rem proving that he can't leave the mansion to resolve the issue because he's suspicious (which is still relevant afterwards)
>gets rem killed instead and resolves himself to fix it

>wah why isn't he snooping around these people who can clearly mawl him in seconds
>wah why would anyone want to save children look at me im so edgy lmao xD

>>147177887
Evangelion. If you think it's bad, you just don't get it.

>>147183278
I get that he got cursed, it just seems like such a stupid direction to take the plot.

We get presented with all these interesting characters and motivations for each one. Why the fuck did the writing just take a huge turn away from that all of a sudden?

As soon as Subaru starting fighting the wolves, any fear I had of him dying and going back to his save point was lost. It immediately gave him the readily apparent plot armor of any anime protagonist.

The whole resolution was also pretty unsatisfying. I don't really give nearly as much as a shit now about clownman's motivations than I did in the maid arc.

I don't know anything about those villagers, so I didn't really give a shit if they died, past the point that it would hit Subaru pretty hard.

That's everything off the top of my head. I'm not trying to hate it, it just makes me frustrated that the author doesn't seem to know what to do with these plots he's set up, so he goes in a completely different and generic direction instead.

It's the same logic he used to kill off Rem. "Oh fuck I made this female character WAAAAY more interesting than the main heroine. Better kill her off using the plot devices I currently have."

Go ahead and interpret it as a 2deep4u message, I'm calling it bad writing.

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>>147183278
>>147183510
Thank you Anon

>>147183297
People don't even watch anime on /a/ anymore. Its shitposting for the sake of shitposting more often than not.

Been especially bad this last year with the swarm of newfriends.

>>147183551
Well that's just your opinion nothing actually wrong with the show

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>>147183586
Do you think that /a/ with ever return to it's golden age?

>>147183586
People say that every year.

>>147183400
>read in public
As in paper and cover? Why not use ebook?

>>147177887
Tamako Market.

>>147183586
4chan as a whole is worse than it was 7 years ago. Being ironically edgy brought in the unironically edgy people and they statued. Also /pol/ exists so there's no hope for this site.

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>>147177887
Because autism. Is that the reply you're looking for.

>>147180234
Writing is about using language to communicate effectively. Story is about having something worth communicating in the first place.
Tolkien was a great writer, but no amount of rhetorical mastery can make Tom Bombadil not shit.

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>>147177887
Why is OP always a faggot complainer

Name me an anime OP wouldn't complain about
you cant

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>>147183510
Plotwise, I completely agree with what Subaru did. That's not the issue I have here.

I'm talking about the faggot that MADE that plot. The mansion which seems incredibly comfy quickly becomes incredibly dangerous and mysterious.
Rather than keep that danger and mystery within the mansion and resolve it there, the author leads the plot away to a village that we hardly see at all with characters we don't know.
I don't give nearly as much as a shit about random farmer #20 than Rem or Rom, so it means far less when one of them are in danger.

It was also apparent Subaru wasn't going to die in that loop, not because he resolved the conflict, but because the conflict went on for so long.
In the first time loop, I was nervous he would die at any moment, and they made it clear he could die at any moment from the stupidest shit.
Up until the resolution of that loop, I had my anus clenched. Even with the final gag of the club not blocking his bowels at all I STILL was afraid he would die.
I wasn't afraid he was going to die in the wolf fight because I know he was given plot armor to avoid the hassle of redoing every plot point they had done since the beginning of that loop.

The third loop's beginning and the suffering Subaru went through during it were really good shit. It sets up pretty early that Subaru has to atone for what he royally fucked up.
So after the author establishes that Subaru fucked up and is willing to change, he proceeds to have the cast go fight a big ass flying whale rather than the cult we grew to hate.
That's lazy ass writing to connect Subaru and military girl and seems like an excuse to have a massive fight for no reason about something we don't give a fuck about.

And yeah that's about it so far. Haven't picked it up passed killing finger bitch. Does it get any better?

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>>147183731
>not owning a bookshelf full of physical copies

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>>147183828
I want old 4chan back

>>147184038
buy the books you like and pirate them to read outside or when they aren't released

>>147183927
The Whale needed to be killed it was a ally to the witch cult

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>>147183927
>stupid whale
Well, they did say that he is blocking the quickest path so it was necessary.

>>147177887
I started watchig anime the last week: The thread

>>147183927
Butterfly effect and all that. Bad shit in the mansion happens because of lolibitch in the village. Bad shit still traces back to the mansion as Roswaal allowed the dogs to attack in order to test Subaru.

The whale is a pet of the Archbishop of Gluttony.

>>147177887
Re Zero is one of the worst anime I have ever dropped, worse than Naruto fillers.
Unbearable cringefest, I cannot fathom how a person above 12 years old can like this stuff.

>>147183927
It's like Bleach, the author can come up with interesting characters and settings but doesn't do anything interesting with them, right down to neglecting the main heroine. He attempts to cover up that flaw by just introducing more of them.

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>>147184278
It's literally to deep for you

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>>147184303
No, fuck you, Re Zero is shallow as hell, other LNs are way better written.

Transparent v fags posting your non /a/ images, along with obligatory underage fictitious oldfag status

You look ridiculous and its obvious why you post anonymously - lurk more

>I don't like what happens
>It's badly written, because everything in the world is supposed to conform to my opinion

>>147184107
When Subaru sees Rem get tortured to death right in front of him, followed by furfriend going to end the world, and THEN seeing the white whale floating around in the background, my mind wasn't too focused on the whale. It was the means to save these people who were brutally killed.
If at least some of the people were killed by the whale, maybe even Emilia, I would give quite a bit more of a fuck about fighting the whale and the whale fight would have been a lot more intense.

If you want to show me the patience Subaru had gotten to the point of saving everyone in the most calm and collected way possible, that might not have been the time to bring up the plot point of the whale. The whale didn't kill anyone at the mansion, and the goal of Subaru is to save the people at the mansion. Going off and exploring the idea of this big and freaky ass monster while he's working towards this goal just muddles up things a bit. Having him go after the whale later on when it's more relevant would have had me more invested in that fight. The author tried to kick up some investment based on the attitudes and experiences of the various characters going to fight the whale, but I didn't really know those characters well enough for it to have that much of an effect.

>>147184196
I'm not saying Subaru shouldn't have killed the whale in that situation, I'm saying the writer shouldn't have put the whale there to begin with. I actually really like Subaru a lot as a protagonist.

>>147184236
That sounds interesting, so I'll pick it back up. Still hurts that I know Subaru won't die anytime soon from where I left off because of how long he's been in his current loop.

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>>147184323
Shit opinion you got there
Rem is top Tier

>>147184347
Who are you referring to?

>>147184361
But if it weren't for the whale fight, you would instead be writing these paragraphs about how stupid it is for Crusch to help her enemy.

>>147184379
Rem is entirely defined by her love for Subaru. There's nothing else to her.

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>>147184361
Killing the whale gained him very powerful allies and he knew that it woukd

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>>147184414
Whatever you want to think anon

>>147184403
He could convince Crusch with a different way. Maybe blackmail or something by using his Return by Death to help him find some dirt.

>>147183586
/a/ is like America, a mishmash of different boards lured to this board with sweet rumors of anime only to find ironic shitposting. Over time the cross boarders eventually came to outnumber the original users mistakenly thinking they were in good company despite being deported many times. What remains now after the immigrants shit all over everything is a filthy board with no originality, creativity, or even a spec of intelligence.
In short /a/ lacks love.

>>147184457
It's much better to befriend than blackmail it will workout much better that way and it's just bad to blackmail someone

>>147184457
Then you would just be complaining that Crusch doesn't need to take shit from a guy with zero power and she should just kill him.

>>147184403
There could have been other ways for Subaru to gain Crusch's trust based on this setting. If the story completely omitted the whale, as in no blocking the way to the mansion and not being called Gluttony by furfriend and all that, Subaru could have had some other subplot going on to figure that out. Since we don't want to break the pacing of the plot to save the mansion, maybe the subplot could have been occurring at the same time as all this other shit, with the final payoff being that it secured Crusch's trust.

>>147184419
Having a cool ass boss fight is fine and all that, it just really broke the pacing of the story a bit. Maybe getting the powerful allies in this part of the story would be good and then fighting the whale would come a lot later. If Subaru could see what was in the future a week or so from where he was standing, he could have figured some shit out if not for the whale.

>>147179013
Now you do.

>>147184557
Then he should tie grenades to himself and threaten to allahu akbar the surrounding area if they don't comply. That or make it so that if he dies the dirt he has on her gets released somehow.

I like how this thread completely ignores the fact that western media is also fucking awful and stupid

you get to watch a movie about
a. a dude with laser powers who defeats evil people, also, he has a cape
b. an "intellectual" movie about how a woman was raped by a criminal, but ultimately, she comes to forgive him because he's "not a bad guy."

wow. yeah, only anime has bad writing. got it

>>147184616
BvS elevated capeshit into a genuine artform. Why can't we expect the same of LN adaptations?

>>147184613
Then it would be hurr hurr plot armor

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Re: zero is shit.

>>147184644
It's not plot armor. It's common sense. If I had Return by Death I would be constantly threatening to allahu akbar people to get my way.

>>147184647
I hope you wrote this and aren't treating someone else's opinion as your bible

>>147184616
Every single medium has it's garbage

>>147184672
I did write this.

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>>147184616
I think that comics are by far the worst

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>>147181482
i like the list and might use it in the future thnx

>>147184464
All you need is love.

Baccano

>>147184715
In the young girl's heart.

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>>147184647
Fuck off or stop trying so hard
it's a really nice and fun anime

>>147177887
Watch Akage no Anne or any other World Masterpiece Theater.

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>>147184695
Nah, even comics have their good points.

>>147184570
Crusch is a military leader how else would he gain her respect. He does work up a few deals between Anastasia and the finance minister to get them involved though. Also he has three days not a week, if he had a week he would skip apologizing altogether and relocate everyone with the merchants help instead.

>>147179255
tell that to the nignogs in africa making clicking sounds and smacking their lips in an attempt to """"""speak""""""

>>147184783
wow

>>147184757
>d-dont think about it! enjoy things you know are shitty!

>>147184812
>""""""
when will you kids stop finding this shit hilarious?

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>>147184647
I dont think you need more than a few words like "self insert battle haremshit garbage" to show re:zero is bad.
There's a show like this every season, this has only caught on because it attracts all of edgefags, waifufags, underage self insert fags and haremfags and maybe even deepmature fags (none of them are mutually exclusive)
The only solution is to ignore their general (thankfully they keep it contained most of the time) and simply tell them to fuck off if they are being obnoxious with their garbage anywhere else.

>>147184757
That's just like your opinion man.

If he can gather his thoughts about why he doesn't like it, that's not a bad thing.
If anything, I'd encourage you to find reasons why you like it outside of "it's a really nice and fun anime".
I'm not saying it's not a really nice and fun anime, it just lets you contribute more discussion wise to talk with him about what you like and dislike.

>>147184793
In terms of gaining her respect, I don't fucking know man, but there could have been something. If he has any more than 3 days to get his shit together that takes away a lot of the suspense of this shit too. If EVERY candidate he went crying to were involved in some way, that just builds up things to be really predictable.

Gaining the trust of a military leader in 3 days is an impossible task only an anime protagonist could accomplish. There has to be something less absurd than fighting a whale will said leader to do it in terms of structuring the story,

>>147184783
>he's the villain

>>147184783
I can't really take any of it seriously

>>147184836
>not knowing how the have fun
>Nitpicking everything and just trying to find things to hate

>>147184640
u wut

>>147184673
of course. and I'm not saying anime isn't more garbage on average than western tv/film. but if 99% of western tv is garbage, and 99.5% of anime is garbage, I don't know if we really have a relevant topic for discussion here.

if OP thinks anime is significantly worse than jersey shore, or marry a millionaire, or house of cards, I don't think he's very smart.

>>147184695
I would agree with this

comics are beyond autism tier and always have been. which is why women find it repulsive on every level

like, anime is autism, and whatever, but comics go full on fat positivity nonsense, and they've always been oriented diametrically against reality

>>147184951
Let's see i like it because it's
It's Entertaining
I like Time Travel Anime
I like Most of the characters
Medieval
Fun
Colorful
I Like the Soundtrack
Fantasy
it's just easy for me to like for some reason

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>>147185071
I don't mind fun anime, but let's not pretend like re:zero fags don't hail this as the best anime to come out in the past couple of seasons. I've seen people claim that subaru is one of the most well written characters to come out in years.

>>147184689
>screencaping your own preaching bullshit to make it seem like concrete truth

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>>147185099
Anime isn't any worse than Western shit
if anything if it's more enjoyable

>>147185099
Comics always seemed Bland to me
i don't get how anyone but kids could enjoy it
nothing seems serious and everyone has superpowers

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>>147185153
>not wanting to take the effort to write something again when faggots reply with everything but an actual response to it

>>147185184
Because nobody is actually going to read this wall of text, which is why its all pointless.

>>147185211
>attention span this short

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Fiction should play by no rules but its own.
The more a work respects this the more fun it is in my opinion.

>>147185122
The theme of the series doesn't go with character design. Also awful dialogue.

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>>147185122
Dig deeper my son. Why is it entertaining? Why do you like most of the characters? Why do you like the soundtrack?

If you can't see it now, watch more anime and other shit like this until you spot patterns of things you like.

After doing that, you might find that this show to be better or worse based on what you've seen.

When people call a show shit, in a very roundabout way they're saying they saw another show that they enjoyed quite a bit more.

If you saw that show, would you enjoy it more than this one? Or is it just their shitty contrarian opinion?
That is for you to decide.

Why are there people calling each other weebs in this thread? Is /v/ leaking again?

>>147185238
It was dumb and boring to read

>>147185288
>go watch more anime

>>147177887
steins gate comes to mind, which is sad because it is done by the same studio.

>>147185307
>not an actually argument

>>147184647
It has plenty of other good characters
>Rom
>Library Loli
>Al
>Wilhelm

>>147183927
I literally couldn't have said it better myself and it is mind boggling to me how many people don't see it this way.

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>>147185275
Finally a true Patrician

>>147185160
I don't really take a position either way.

both are awful overall.

if someone hates anime moreso, that's just a matter of their taste/bias. anyone who watches stuff like reality tv is brain damaged

>>147185174
autism

>>147185277
both of those are opinions

>>147185308
Or read some books, or watch some movies, I don't fucking know.
You can think more critically about things when you've seen a lot of them.

I have no fucking idea what makes a good song and it's hard for me to argue with people about a song outside of shit like "it's a really nice and fun song". This is probably because I've bought 3 goddamn albums in my life.

I honestly couldn't tell you what makes a Katy Perry song bad and what makes a David Bowie song good without pulling shit out of my ass. It's like 4 am and I need to sleep fuck you

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>>147185288
I'v Seen over 100 Anime i'v seen many Anime that are considered masterpieces

>>147185394
I try to see the good in things and enjoy them

>>147185394
>autism
me or the comics/comic fans?

>>147185411
You can't see it because you have no love.

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>>147185288
I just like to watch anime for fun sometimes and i just all around enjoy Re Zero i don't really know why i just like a lot of things about it i guess

>>147177887
It should be illegal to post a sweeping statement like this without posting something you consider good. You're attacking without standing on anything. It's the cowards way out.

>>147185275
I think you're onto something here, mate.

>>147185472
you sound like a very generous person. but some things are just mind poison. our grandparents were right. rock and roll is satan's music, television is pornography, and people are becoming stupider.

>>147185488
comic fans. you seem like a right chap

>>147185411
This is why shit is overflowing earth.

>>147178977
Nah, it's just /a/ criticising shit.

>>147177887
Thinly-veiled rec thread

>>147185288
>>147185411

This desu

It sounds terribly elitist and asshole-y but often the only answer or way you can find common ground with someone is to "watch more anime". Frame of reference and experience plays a massive role in how you perceive pretty much anything.

There is almost absolutely no way a person that has watched one giant robot show can see the same things and find meaningful common ground with someone who has seen 20. They just have completely different standards and perception and would barely be able to have a discussion outside of "I liked X", "Yes, I suppose I also enjoyed X"

>>147184647
His argument was addressed in that same thread, he thought the show was attempting to much with the limited run time it had, he even admitted to liking the characters his real problem was he didn't understand the shows current focus. All he has to do is wait for 18 for Subaru's to start over and 25 to address his points on Subaru's reset.