What is this expression trying to convey?
>>147120426
she's hiding her despairgasm
>>147120426
The pleasure of being despaired inside.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN EVEN REMOTELY CONTROL OUR BOY JUZO Raiden's not allowed
>Punched Naegi so hard Rihanna playing sticks and stones
>Knee'd the fuck out of Anxiety fag and makes niggers drop faster than the Detroit police department
>Went one on one with the Gozuboys
>Rekt Hinata so hard he turn Izuru
>100% accuracy rate in Olympic chair throwing, that one miss on Kirigiri was just to flex his muscles and check dat ass
>Went full ham on the old man and crew just to get his kick quota fulfilled
>Roundhousekicks the everlasting shit out of Monaca's puppet
>Too busy punching manlets, so some mentally deranged kid blows up half the school
>Great try, but no normalfags died
Fucking reee
>Tried to kill the donut but jobbed again
>Survived 2 missile barrages by some random ass cripple in a wheelchair
>Called out Monokuma's bluff with his cameras, recording his mad-ass pecs and didn't give a fuck in general about any of these plebians
>Became the world champion in boxing, declaring himself to be best with bare hand combat before even leaving high school
>Too Alpha to mess with the bitches and instead neglects his own feelings as being the third wheel to protect his friends no matter what
>Only took a 2 episode rest before kicking the shin of everyone again
>Took a fucking spear to the shoulder, impaled into a wall and shrugged it off like it was just a mosquito bite
>Seduced by Ruruka's sweets, but who gives a shit, our boy definitely doesn't. Fuck candy and fuck that whore, time to get her killed via NG
>Kicks the riot down with the power of flaming fists and thousands of normies
>Crawling to safety as we speak! :v(
>Has enough consideration to the normies to at least use them as a coatrack
>HE WILL BE THE ONE TO SLAY PUNISHED SHADOW PERSONA, A MAN WHO HAS ALREADY BECOME DESPAIR, A MAN WITH NO WAIFU, NOTHING TO LOSE
J U Z O B O Y S
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PS:Normalfriends and Chiakifriends need not apply to based Juzo
>>147120426
Her excitement over the kills, my friend.
>tfw Juzo didn't actually know why
So Juzo was killed for fucking nothing? What was Juzo going to confess to Munakata?
So:
Who was the attacker? Tengan said it was 'everyone in the FF', whatever the fuck that means. I don't think he was LYING, since that was literally his NG code, but if it were true it's hard to say the killing is over.
The only way it could be over NOW is if it were Ruruka or Kirigiri. I do believe Juzo is still alive since the counter is still at 6 despite there only being 4 survivors and the one mystery guest/Weedman we've had from the beginning.
Could Kirigiri have been writing a confession in her notebook instead of trying to solve the mysteries? That would certainly put Naegi in the position of having to put his money where his mouth is since he literally just said he'd still be glad to have met her, even if she betrayed everyone else.
I WILL LEARN JAPANESE TO READ MORE ABOUT KIRI'S LIGHT NOVEL ADVENTURES!
>>147120556
That's actually pretty fucked up
>>147120426
the thrilll of rusing your husbando
qtest OTP
>>147120551
Munakatana was de-edged already, you should correct the pasta.
Though I'm still sure that Juzo is alive.
>>147120426
She's a filthy hope traitor. I'm glad she's dead.
>>147120601
>OTP
Not in this life
',:^)
>several weeks of build up to these 2's final hope clash off
>b-butttt your waifu man, remember when you liked her?
>literally that solved everything
Go and tell me with a straight face this anime isn't garbage.
>>147120623
Shit, my bad my friend. I altered it but I had the wrong pasta on the clipboard! My apologies.
>>147120601Not canon
>>147120577
Kirijunko
>>147120426
She's proof, that any character that gives in to Despair can behave normally and fool FF. Despair Chiaki is head of 13th branch and mastermind.
I come to thread for lewd Mikan.
But there is no lewd Mikan.
Are you gay?
Kill all despair sluts
Kill their men and rape their women, then kill them too
Don't leave a single one alive
NOBODY IN OUR WAY NOW
>>147120577
The monitors are making people commit suicide by inducing despair. See gozu poking out his eyes, Ruruka trying to kill herself either candy like she did her two friends, etc.
>>147120576
That he killed Chisa.
>>147120661
We're not sexual attracted to garbage, sorry.
>>147120642
Naegi was never that great. Kirigiri did all the work.
I hope Mitarai mans up.
>>147120601
This ship boggles my mind, they knew each other for like five minutes in the first case and then she died. What gives?
Now, If kirigiri is alive i will be really mad.
They are wasting to much time in emotional scenes and flashbacks in an anime with 12 EPs.
>>147120692
You know, it took him forever to get over with muh 11037, he'll never recover from this
>>147120659
We already had proof with Mikan, considering she was acting perfectly normal before and after her killing spree.
>>147120642
Love unironically solves all problems
>>147120681
The shit going on with Hope vs Despair is getting out of hand.
You can't have one without the other you fucking pieces of shit.
Nagito is the only one not completely retarded in this series
Man, as much of a dick as Munakata was in the past few episodes, this made me feel for him. Knowing your qt waifu was Despaired and that anyone and everyone is a victim/culprit must do some shit to you
>>147120700
Was the knife stuck into them ex post facto their death?
>>147120642
But the scene was great. The hopes clashed, and Naegi won. He lured Munakata to a place where they'd be forced to talk, or both die, and Naegi made him see what he was doing wrong.
The entire damn episode was devoted to them fighting, what more do you want?
>>147120720
I thought they knew each other from middle school.
And wasn't Sayaka his waifu during their Hope's Peak days before the killing game?
>Makoto
>Aoi
>Ryota
>Munakata
am i missing someone?
>>147120659
She's too dumb to be a mastermind.
>>147120700
Maybe they show the magic video Junko made in the Despair episodes.
But with added ironic dubstep and MLG montages.
>Munakata
>Naegi
>Asahina
>Mitarai
>???
>???
There's only two episodes left, will the traitor/mastermind get one more kill in before the end or is this it?
>>147120642
It's fantastic.
>>147120751
Which is funny considering how he literally has brain problems
>>147120765
>Weedman/mastermind
>either JUZO or Kirigiri
>>147120765
Our boy Juzo + the true culprit
>>147120765
Juzo or Kirigiri and the mastermind.
>>147120757
Could be that, or could be self inflicted.
>>147120765
I'm hoping Juzo is still alive, and the counter isn't counting Kirigiri because her NG going off scratches her off the list for the mastermind because why monitor someone when their fucking NG went off?
>>147120765
>Togami
>Weed
>>147120745
There was a slim chance she haven't given in fully. She was Junko's first case, so it could be not perfect. Thanks to Chisa in this ep, that is also out of question.
>>147120751
No, not participating in the Hope vs. Despair conflict is the only smart thing to do.
Nagito's retarded because he goes all in on Hope while helping out Despair.
You knew why.
>>147120818
Weedman doesn't have a bracelet, he's not a part of the game.
>>147120642
At least we had an actual fight before the debate.
Also, all those DR1 remixes got me hype as fuck
>yfw this
>>147120775
>Chiaki
>Dumb
>>147120760
Their whole drama is retarded and the resolution lukewarm to say the least, considering there's no universe in which someone could see Munakata as being in the right when Naegi can just talk everyone into HOPE.
WHO /NAEGI/ HERE
Your boy got controlled a long time ago
Guys, what if Weedman is the mastermind?
Everything about me.
>kirigiri wins the naegibowl with a 50 yard touchdown in the 4th quarter
The field goal's coming up boys
>>147120720
>>147120762
Yeah, they admired eachother from afar and closest before memory wipe. There's "11037
" too, a good lad he was
>>147120765
Hopebot
>>147120867
>Everyone was right all along about Munakata's NG Code
Not surprising, but hype that Naegi figured it out on his own.
>>147120882
Hey fucktard, Munakata was wrong. Naegi was right. Congrats on realizing it slower than even Munakata did.
>>147120855
You seem to be as smart as Munakata. KYS
>>147120869
>lets go rush into the enemy lair with an unconscious guy and a bunch of non combat talents.
post yfw Sore wa Chigau Yo
>>147120855
Nah, he just smart enough to play on both fronts, so he can consider himself on winning side no matter who wins.
>>147120899
>6 survivors
Juzo will still return for the final laugh.
>>147120869
She's not an analyst like Junko or Kamukura. She can't pull it off.
>>147120899
There's a reason it cut away, he's not dead.
Even my despair.
>>147120655
She's the girl in the place
Punch you in the face
A gun in her waist
It's K baby
>>147120899
>juzoboys think he's still alive after this
>>147120910
But she got disqualified at the last second.
And the trophy goes to Aoi.
>>147120760
>He lured Munakata to a place where they'd be forced to talk, or both die, and Naegi made him see what he was doing wrong.
Firstly there are numerous ways Munakata could have got him to open the door and knowing Naegi his friends would obviously try to locate him and thus opening the door.
Secondly he never made him see anything, all he did was mention his waifu and for some retarded reason it swayed him.
>>147120860
Persona did nothing wrong. If I found out that my waifu was brainwashed and lobotomized by a crazy despair whore, I would be pretty angry too.
>Funi mis-subbed "Sore wa chigau yo" as "That isn't hope"
Killed a bit of the hype desu
>>147120938
She doesn't really know what Izuru can do and about Mukuro.
>>147120855
Helping out despair helps creating a bigger hope you shitlord.
>>147120910
>>147120966
Aoi won just by staying alive. You can't waifu a corpse.
>>147120953
But you can't win. That's why it's retarded to wage war on those terms.
Hope and Despair can't exist without each other.
There is no winning in that conflict.
>>147120982
>and for some retarded reason it swayed him.
Damn, you're fucking stupid, dude
>>147120983
If I found out that my waifu was brainwashed and lobotomized by a crazy despair whore, I'd waifu the shit out of that crazy despair whore.
>>147120899
by them despair tatatas
Gotta say, I got a lump in my throat when Chisa sent Munakata the picture saying "It was me."
Now if only it wasn't LOL BRAINWASHING
>>147120966
>>147121019
>bargaining
It's okay, acceptance will come soon, friends.
>>147120910
She sure took her sweet time though, but AI is still best true love.
>>147121023
That's why you should always bet on FUTURE, or space NEET, whatever floats your boat.
>>147120842
So by this logic, Bandai, Izayoi, and Kizakura are all still on there too.
>>147120989
Same. Fuck them.
This is giving me some painful Berserk vibes
>>147120982
You realize his friends didn't just find them at the end there right?
They were waiting there the whole time.
If Naegi was killed Munakata was going to rot.
>>147120576
"No homo"
>>147120946
>>147121049
>tfw Juzo got despaired by Chisa and is the true mastermind
We finally know
>>147121057
Reminded me of Dio 2bh
>>147121061
I was never an anti-Kirigirifag, I'm just stating the facts.
Aoi played the long game, now her time has come.
That dying message Tengan left.
It was for Mitarai wasn't it?
Naegi kinda assumed it was for him because he is super hax hope student, but Mitarai had a very serious look on his face when he saw that.
>>147121061
I already accepted that they had a thing.
But they're not getting a happy ending.
What with Kyoko being dead.
>>147120426
Despair, yet also an orgasm.
Where was the CURE W bottle this episode?
That's right, nowhere. The animation team tried to sneak that in to fool us and give us false hope. She's fucking dead, accept it.
>>147121061
Kirigiri is dead. Aoi wins by default.
Will we ever see the real Gekko?
>>147121023
Except he didn't wage war on those terms, he always helps despair to see the bigger hope created from that, then creating an even bigger despair and see an even bigger hope shines. He likes to talk about hope but never really acts on that, and didn't wage war on that too.
>>147121076
Why are they making it seem so ominous? Is it to scare kiddies who didnt bother to play DR2?
So after this episode can we all agree Munakata did nothing wrong?
>>147120884
Here.
>>147121076
Why do people say the other ships stopped when they're facing the opposite side of the island?
>Implying you wouldn't go apeshit too.
APOLOGIZE
>>147120956
Don't worry, all she has to do is play a video game and she'll know what to do.
>>147121145No__________________________________________
Woah
>>147120576
>Juzo
>killed
kek
>>147121145
we did
BTFO but we saw her
>The remnants conveniently never told Naegi their teacher was also brainwashed along with them
Sasuga Kodaka
Mastermind: Despair Chiaki
Accomplice: Despair Chisa
"Attacker": Suicide by despair anime
Tengen and Mitarai were working on same anime concept but HOPE filled.
Juzo couldn't save Chisa from despair, he knew all along.
Hajizuru is heading to stop Chiaki and end this.
>>147120601
Kill yourself my man.
>>147121164
I want to fuck this average girl.
>>147121145
I hope so
>>147121166
water around them isnt moving.
>>147120700
Then how exactly are the killings over? Even if Kirigiri determined they were all suicides, she can't have actually figured out WHY they killed themselves. Nobody left a note saying 'Yeah the monitor is making me want to kill myself'. And Tengan didn't say they were killing themselves, he said they were ALL the attackers.
Maybe the 'sleep' cycles weren't sleepy times at all, instead everyone woke up and were brainwashed into killing someone. A lynching. The victims were clearly all awake when they died, so this isn't implausible.
That's why everyone is waking up in different positions than when they went to sleep. They were ALL getting up and killing someone. The REAL 'time limit' only occurs after this 'Attacker phase' is done, so even Kirigiri could have helped kill Ruruka before her bracelet killed her.
This still doesn't explain why the killings are supposed to be over now, though. Maybe there was someone who was manually controlling things during the 'down' times. If that person were dead, then the brainwashing wouldn't occur, no one would be killed, and the game would officially end.
I have a feeling that Mitarai's despairnime failing to hypnotize Chisa wasn't an isolated incident, and that even at it's best it could only make people susceptible to suggestion for a few hours at most. So by the time everyone finished killing their victim and goes back to where they originally were, the time limit for the brainwashing is almost over, at which point they go back to sleep.
>>147121183
Where'd he get that picture? Chisa's body?
If that's the case, how come Kyoko didn't see it?
>>147121172
>See this
>"We we waw waw waw" starts playing
What do?
>>147121205
They technically don't know yet
>>147121145
when matsuda gets more screen time
>>147121183
>Mahiru took the pictures
You just know it.
>>147121161
>Hinata is the mastermind
>comes to check on whether Naegi and Munakata offed each other
>"Now you know what it feels like to have a dead waifu"
>>147121161
Because, for the 10000th time, they are still despairs.
Just less homicidal towards humanity.
>>147121135
>It was for Mitarai wasn't it?
yes
>>147120995
>"Hmm... did I forget to tell them something?"
>>147121243
True, I would accept it if they never see their teacher again post brainwashing and the last they ever saw of her was before they went to rescue her.
Why the fuck did they tease jabberwock so early? I literally can't care about anything else
>>147121145
It's either in the next episode of Zetsubou-hen or never, since there's simply not enough time left until they inevitably have to show the reserve course students killing themselves en masse.
Or she's on the boat in the final scene of this episode if the corpse was a bait, but that would be such a stupid twist.
>>147121205
Remnants weren't cooperating with Naegi when they were taken in, she also probably only answered to Junko, then Monoca, hence her involvement in the game, knowing those dumb niggers they'd blow their load on an HQ attack and get themselves wiped out by Munakata.
>>147121145
She created the neo program with chihiro and junkos cuck so I think she will be seen alive in a despair episode soon
>>147121231
She probably saw it but left it there.
>>147121252
Deepest lore.
>She killed a bunch of kindergarteners
Holy fuck
>>147121205
>implying they had the chance or knew anything about the state of their teacher and/or her importance on bumbfuck island
pretty sure naegi didnt talk to them either after they woke up - at the end of 2 they're like "uhhh shouldnt we be worried remnants of despair just woke up"
>>147121243
That's why I don't oppose theorizing, but people on /a/ really really love jumping to conclusions, so I would prefer if they refrain from doing that.
>>147121231
Even if Kyoko noticed, it wouldn't matter at all to her. She doesn't know about that one specific situation with the kids so she likely would just brush it off as a random selfie
If the "attacker" kills themselves by despair anime, then where do the monokuma knives come from? Do they just reuse the same knife every time?
>>147121206
I don't know if this fits being the fact that Chisa apparently died first, however I would like this to be real, Despair Chiaki vs Hajizuru would be an epic encounterI'll screenshot this just in case
>>147121272
With two episodes left, I don't think its possible to dive into Jabberwock with it going into detail
>>147121205
They scooted the fuck out of there before they really got to communicate.
>>147121292
I know that feel.
Inb4 NWP from SDR2 was actually a trap by Chisa and Izuru by uploading Junko managed to salvae something positive out of it.
The notepad just means that Kyoko figured it out but didn't tell anyone.
Aoi isn't smart enough to figure that shit out on her own, she just read the notes.
If Kirigiri killed herself, then I will too.
>>147121142
>the gold medal winning Olympic athlete gets the bronze medal in the Naegibowl
>ends up with the gold anyway after the gold and silver are disqualified
I'm fine with this.
>>147121292
someone please make a Chisa edit of Dio
>>147121333
Probably run back and get it, since there are monitors everywhere they are still being brainwashed
>>147120884
They don't call him Ultimate Hope for nothin'
>>147121258
That'd be shit and lame and nobody would like that. Why couldnt Hajime dedespair them.
>>147121082
>They were waiting there the whole time.
>If Naegi was killed Munakata was going to rot.
And where does this state that or show? If that were the case they would have immediately arrived once the fight was over but there was some clear delayment.
Even so, you think Aoi wouldn't be so pissed she'd bust right through that door and be crazed in revenge? Get real
>>147120918
I'm a bit disappointed. I was hoping the door thing was an intentional ruse by Munakata.
>>147121372
>super bowl
>medals
>>147120899
If you get stabbed through your stomach would you die? In fiction there are an even number of those that do and those that don't, I'm fucking confused.
>>147121321
>smiling Chisa with corpses of kids
Nothing suspicious at all.
>>147121333
That's the question. It may be that the mastermind or an accomplice appears and hands them a knife. Something like that.
>yfw 6
>>147121301
>but people on /a/ really really love jumping to conclusions
This.
>Be 4 episodes into a prequel.
>"WOW LOOK AT THIS PLOTHOLE I SURE AM SMART BET THIS GUY IS A SHIT WRITER"
>Next episode clarifies the situation and makes it fit
>"...What a fucking hack amirite"
At least let the guy explain himself instead of shitting your pants at every fucking twist.
>>147121272
I wouldn't be surprised if the final episode of the Despair Arc is a flash forward to Jabberwock but that require the next episode to rush a lot of shit.
Well, maybe not. Class 77 gets despaired, Chiaki dies or is turned too, and we time skip. Kodaka dis say he wanted to keep the actions of the RoD ambiguous a bit.
>>147120588
Belated, but there's a translation of Dangan Ronpa Kirigiri, you know.http://duelnoir.dreamwidth.org/4362.html
>>147121333
>Do they just reuse the same knife every time?
Yes. Rewatch episode 6, only the last corpse has a knife.
>>147121431
You forgot "It was me !" part.
Not sure what Chisa meant by that, though.
>>147121163
>get tricked by old man, goes full retard and kills based bro
No
>>147120426
Despair.
>>147121411
Yeah, you would probably die by blood loss.
That's why if you get stabbed, you shouldn't pull the knife out.
Did Chisa mean to die? Was that part of her plan?
>>147120765
How many times are you going to ask this?
The survivor count has always had one extra person on it. Either for Yasohiro or a different, hidden 16th participant.
The other one is almost certainly Juzo, since we still haven't gotten confirmation of his death, unlike Kirigiri, Ruruka and Miyabot.
>>147121467
She knew Munakata would flashback to that "I wonder who dun it" moment right before seeing the photo.
>>147121467
It's cute, she wrote it in pink and all girly with a heart.
>>147121333
They commit suicide and then the mastermind comes in with a knife and puts it there for symbolism and shit.
>>147121523
She likely had her plan hijacked by the actual mastermind.
So how will kohacka revive kirigiri?
How would you react if next episode had the count at 5 and Juuzo bled out off screen?
>not an RoD
>Decides to fuck with Munakata anyway
why
>>147121563
Junko vessel
>>147121563
He will delet Twitter account forever.
>>147121258
>they are still despairs.
Why dont they just piss in everyone's faces and kick us in the balls?
Imagine Yukizome killed Anzu and co.
>>147121523
I think she was Mukuro of DR3.
>>147121563
>all that foreshadowing
>still yelling "muh Kohacka"
You only have yourself to blame.
>>147121576
He is an asshole.
What will Chiaki's fate be?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11211287
>>147120551
I feel for you
>>147121576
Because it's true and everyone is working for despair by being retarded.
>>147121597
Imagine Yukizome killing Yotsuba.
>>147121393
Gee golly I wonder what he could possibly mean by this I guess he meant wait all the way on the other side of the building for some arbitrary reason because that's all you could possibly say to defend yourself.
>>147120884
I just hope they don't fuck over Hinata in order to make Naegi seem even cooler.
>>147121576
Probably because he's an old man, chairman of the FF and he knew he was going to die anyway. I'd do the same, just fuck around one last time and peace it.
>>147121567
I'd laugh at the irony.
>>147121523
fake body. Ultimate make up artist etc
>>147121467
She wanted persona to know that she was the one who killed the kids and not try to blame someone else.
So are they gonna combine their Hope now
>>147120760
On one hand, it was cool to see Makoto finally getting to do something. Him tricking Munakata into that closed room was fun.
On the otherhand, pretty much everything else about that scene was shit. All series we were led to believe that Makoto & Munakata would have to reach some sort of pragmatic comprimise between their two opposite but equally extreme approaches to things. Except that didn't happen at all, we just got the same shit we've always gotten - Makoto's extreme optimism always being right and everyone else being dumb and wrong about everything. Kyoko died not to give Makoto character development, but just to give him a confidence boost - people have been complaining that Makoto's done nothing all series, but up until this episode he hasn't really had a chance to do anything, and when he got that chance he pretty much just did the same shit he's always done. Kyoko might as well have not died at all.
They had this really good chance to give Makoto some actual character development, but they didn't go for it. They didn't really explore Munakata as a character that much either (I'm looking at this mainly from a Makoto-centric lens in this post. That being said I do think that while Munakata came out of it slightly better, it was still pretty disappointing on that end of things too). It just was not a compelling conflict in any way (and this is supposed to be the "main rivalry" of this show)
Hell even the obligatory action scene had no real tension to it, one of the constants in this series is that Makoto's Luck will always save him from certain death. Dunno why they spent so much of the episode on that part.
>>147121619
Chiaki is a giant mary sue, she will get to die pure.
>>147120956
This argument is stupid from its conception.
Remember, if Chiaki isn't the Mastermind, then either a Housemaid or an Animator has to be
Neither of whom have shown themselves to be particularly smart, clever, or competent. Well I guess Chisa is really good at murdering little kids and then sending NTR pictures
>>147121576
Because he's the SHSL Old Man
>>147121608
I don't know what's more insulting.
Him expecting us to believe she's dead.
Or him not having the balls to kill her off for good.
>>147121161
Who's on that boat anyway?
>>147120765
The first episode had 16 people, the real question is if Yasuhrio counted. If he does, the mastermind is one of the 16, or is someone who hasn't been introduced yet and isn't part of that 16 or the killing game. That also means that someone is still alive, likely Juzo.
If Yasuhiro doesn't count, 2 people are still alive, Juzo or Kyoko, or the mastermind is part of the game just hidden and only one person is alive.
>>147121258
We only have two episodes left man, do you really think they'll add on a "SDR2 was meaningless" subplot right at the end?
>>147120918
>but hype that Naegi figured it out on his own.
Come on, what kind retard wouldn't see something so obvious? It's not something to be happy about.
>>147120551
>>147121662
I still think it should be
>Juzo: why
>Yu: you know why
>>147121619
She's the mastermind and Izuru stops herthen straps her to a chair, lobotomizes her while she orgasms and manages to install the AI Chiaki personality onto her body
>>147120989
What is it actually?
>>147120700
>Gozu blinded himself to stop the despair
>>147120426
>lies to you about your boyfriend
>hates normies
>kills children
Unredeemable.
>>147121619
Despair Chiaki arriving on ship, Hajizuru appearing behind her, knocking her out and then unlobotomizing her brain.
What is his NG code?
Is he the true Ultimate Despair?
Or is he just Shinji?
>>147121626
Choose ur fucking weapon.
>>147121708
"that's incorrect".
>>147121685
Hajime most likely. Maybe the other survivors stayed on jabberwock with the pods. Hajime has to deal with Chisa and get Mitarai's hope anime so he can give class 77 anti despair lobotomies.
>>147121721
He's fucking Shinji
What did he mean by this?
>>147121363
Legs
>>147120867
He cant open doors, but couldnt he just slice the fuck out of it and walk through?
>>147121619
>all these close unsure results
Worried.
>>147121717
And 2/3 of those were before brainwashing.
>>147121019
"You're my silver medal!"
>>147121576
>"The killer is...you know what, fuck all you retarded assholes, you are the despairs."
>>147121764
Typical NTR line.
>>147121666
For somebody who thinks it's going to retread 2-5, your memory about the case isn't too good, is it? AE Chiaki was executed for killing Nagito, she had blood on her hands. Real Chiaki just made a colossal blunder and lead her entire class to their doom, and you think that won't affect her at all?
>>147121362
>The notepad just means that Kyoko figured it out but didn't tell anyone.
>but didn't tell anyone
I'm not the only one who thinks that this is sorta dumb if it ends up being true, am I?
>>147121523
Of course.
Her next step was crashing the Future Foundation. With no survivors.
>>147121764BLACKED
>>147121655
Sounds pretty lewd
>>147121736
>>147121736
The power to make everyone kill themselves via ultimate anime.
Never cared much for Kirigiri, but these last couple episodes were good for her. Showed some actual change and emotion.
>>147121764
Classic perverted old man.
>>147121721
I don't think he's the mastermind or a despair. He watched the video that mikan saw and just ran away. He seems like he's just upset that everything is his fault and probably made a counter despair anime or something.
>>147121717
>>hates normies
What's wrong with that, you fucking shitstain?
>>147121773
His sword lost power
>>147121764
yukizome slept with old man for despair. munakata confirmed cuck
>next week
They had to put AI Nanmi into simulation because they could not find the real one.
>>147120661
I would prefer cute Mikan, but with her cute and lewd are the same.
>>147120708
How is homosexuality treating you anon?
>>147121808
I'm sure she had a reason.
>>147121619
She'll become RoD
>>147121258
Izuru was never a despair, just boring man. That should be fixed now that he got Hajime's memory and now he can just undo all the brainwashing himself.
>>147121739
"No, that's wrong!"
Shit, that would have been way better.
>>147121721
the fact that we now know every single NG code but his pretty much guarantees it's gonna be something important in the next two eps
>>147121823
Okay now that would make me go full edge on everyone in the building.
>>147121620
Edit of this with Naegi, Munakata, and Juzo when?
>both zetsubou and mirai are 80% filler
Both series should have been called despair
>>147121844
>cucked Juzo with Munakata
>cucked Munakata with despair
>and Tengan
She's the ultimate cuck whipper.
>>147121655
Well...
>>147121721
He is not a despair but he blames himself for everything as his anime did a lot of damage to the world.
Hates himself, so yeah, kinda Shinji.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQwmBSf7LP8
For a comedic series this made me really sad.
>>147120642
>powerless manlet with only truth bullets
>versus crazy katana master with an HF blade and power up drugs
>they still fight in a 1v1 situation
>remixes
>luck and sore wa chigau yo
You can't say that was shit, it was quite cool.
>>147121846
We should've realized that they would never show off any DR2 cast member in Mirai until we saw them get despaired in Zetsubou.
Future Arc is Kodakas reason for not being able to do a game because it is an in-universe anime. The intro for Despair and red blood foretells it. NONE OF IT IS REAL, KIRIGIRI IS STILL ALIVE
>>147121441
>>147121864
We still don't know why blood is red in Mirai but pink in Zetsubou don't we?
>>147121764
>How does it feel, knowing that your wife got DESPAIRED
>>147121916
Because Mirai is not a game anymore.
>>147121145
We did.
So
>Naegi: Running in hallways
>Kirigiri: Letting Naegi live past the 4th time limit
>Asahina: Getting punched or kicked
>Munakata: Opening doors
>Juzo: Engaging in hand-to-hand combat
>Chisa: Munakata die
>Ruruka: Letting anybody escape the game area
>Izayoi: Eating anything
>Seiko: Somebody stepping in her shadow
>Tengan: Answering a question with a lie
>Miayabot: Turning right (doesn't matter)
>Bandai: Witnessing violence
>Kizakura: Opening left hand
>Gozu: Being pinned for a three-count
UNKNOWN:
>Mitarai
>16th participant
>>147120956
She's smart though, or well if the real Chiaki is like AI Chiaki let's remember that AI Chiaki could see through Komaeda's trap and if she wouldn't say something all besides her would have been killed
How do you think Chiaki will feel when her sensei helps herfall into the deep abyss of irrevocable, absolute despair, and experience pleasure that she would never be able to get with Hinata-kun?
Why's the sky red?
Chiaki becomes despair this week and is the mastermind. Then all the RoD arrive at the FF building and make her remember the good times together so she becomes good again. Series ends with her and Izuru hugging.
kirigiri trips is still alive bois
>>147121969
World got fucked over by Junko.
>>147121969
Despair.
>>147121764
>>147121919
He should've added that Class 77 all took turns fucking her brains out in class in an aphrodisiac-fuelled frenzy that one time
>>147121793
I don't imagine any girl wants to hear that
>>147121986
This is not how you get trips.
>next episode
>survivor count: 7
>>147121986
Not even close
>>147121969
Not enough Hope in the world, probably
>>147121984
I'd rather have >>147121704
>>147120588
The twists are spectacular.
There'sva certain ecstasy that occurs when everything comes together beautifuly and the truth of the case is simpler than you would think.
>>147121969
Because Junko wills it
>>147121998
They probably all had despair orgies during the tragedy
>>147121205
We still don't know if the remnants even realized Chisa was brainwashed. It could well be that Chisa has already gone into infiltration mode by the time the class gets brainwashed.
>>147121916
Because it's an anime.
>>147121448
Especially when the evidence for a plothole is headcannon
Izuru will probably call despair boring and we will see Chiaki becoming true Ultimate Despair.
/r/ing an edit of Chisa on the Younglings picture
>>147121945
>anons cared more about the death of gekkobot than the death of the real person
>>147122027
>Aoi gives a birth
>>147122026
Nah but this is how you get dubs
>>147121969
Radical 6
So what happened on that boat in the end?
did someone already made this?
>>147121597
Damn you. Hanamaru Kindergarten is one of my secret favorites.
>>147122027
>last episode
>survivor count: 16
It was all VR and they're all just in coma.
kek'dI guess Kirigiri and Mitarai would be the only survivors in this situation
>>147122015
And speaking of Simpsons references: that'sthejoke.jpg
>>147122078
I hope getting cucked your dubs is despair-inducing.
>>147122027
>boat arrives
>survivor count: 21
>>147122088
change yukizome to juzo
>>147122027
>First scene
>Monaca's van crashes into the building
>>147122088
It would have been better with Juzo instead of Chisa
Naegi is the Ultimate Hope because he never goes full retard when it seems like the only option is going full retard.
>>147121793
She's actually bronzejust like her skin, rowr.
Still, in love and war the winner is the last one standing.
>>147121984
>Izuru
>>147122150
Naegi is the Ultimate Hope because he's the MC.
>>147122127
I'm still that same person many threads ago that just COULDN'T get dubs/trips/quads
Always 1 or 2 off fuck sake
But this time, I'll get something!
>>147122070
We've literally never seen the real Gekko alive, let alone speak. She's a complete non-character. You may as well ask us to care about that Blue Boy that sawed his own throat out.
I'm disappointed that these two never met before Izuru became a thing. I would have liked to hear a conversation between them.
>>147122207
nice try
>Chisa killing shotas
Worst girl. Worse than candy bitch.
>>147119035
>SHSL Animator
>Uses subtle techniques to trigger emotional responses in the brain
>SHSL Confectioner
>Makes candies so delicious that you become addicted to them and do what she says in reward for more sweets
>SHSL Analyst
>literally rewrites your brain so that your body will kill itself even though your brain doesn't want to
One of these things is not like the others
>>147122070
Just wait a couple years until DR3:IF comes out and delusional waifufags come out of the woodwork.
>>147122027
>next episode
>survivor count: Upupupupupu
>>147122145
>right onto Hajizuru's head, who came to stop mastermind
>>147122218
I dunno if I'm disappointed or impressed that the writers didn't have the two meet before the Kamukura Project happened. I'm pretty sure Hajime would've just looked like a blue slime person to Nagito anyway.
>>147122218
I would rather have a meeting between Hopeman and Makoto.
>>147122229
u shure? check these 22288's mah anonigga
>>147122076
mfw there are doujins of this
>>147122088
Change it to Juzo.
>>147121793
Better a silver medal than a purple heart!
>>147121227
>Then how exactly are the killings over
All they have to do is make sure they're not in the same room as a monitor next sleep time. Then they wake up with no one dead and that ends the game, as per the rules. Of course, I'm expecting a twist with Mitarai having the video on his phone or something.
>>147122027
>survivor count: ERROR
>>147121806
>she had blood on her hands
Oh please, that was some luck bullshit that Hopeman pulled to try to knock down all the despairs at once. It had no bearing on Chiaki's personality. You're in no place to be talking about memory, boyo.
And to answer your question, yes. Like I said, she is a mary sue. She always has been and always will be.
>>147122181
It's questionable whether Sayaka really counts. Naegi never really had a chance to have more than just a small crush for her, not deep feelings like he has for Kirigiri (and Aoi).
>>147122277
kek, check this trips
The attacker is mitarai he made the despair Anime and the monitors displayed the Anime he made which made the attackers commit suicide, in other words since chisa fell into despair she kept the video and displayed it on the monitors for FF but the root of it all was that mitarai made the Anime, so they either have to kill mitarai to win the game or despair and stay there forever and mitarai will keep his innocent behavior cuz he never gave in despair
>>147122277
Seriously I'm going to kill myself, the one time i get dubs i fucking call it wrong fucking kill me
>>147122277
Sorry, you're 11 off
>>147122314
>(and Aoi)
Maybe Chisa was crying because despair watching despair anime turns them back to normal?
So she went crazy from guilt and had breakdown?
>>147122218
Nagito would have no interest in Hajime. Nagito only likes ultimate because they're a shining beacon of hope. Nagito treated Hajime like shit in DR2 when he learned he was just a reverse course student.
>>147121292
Remember in the Prequels where Palpatine showed Anakin a video and then he was Sith and killed younglings?
He was a good friend
>>147122334
How about they just break all the monitors?
>>147122218
they do, the beginning of dr2. hopeman is his first friend before hinata realizes he's insane. sure it's a simulation but they didn't have their memories at the time
>>147122338
kek
DID ANYONE NOT NOTICE THAT KIRIGIRI WAS GRIPPING HER HAND INDICATING SHE WAS ALIVE? THEY LITERALLY HAD ASAHINA REACT TO IT FOR A SOLID 8 SECONDS
>>147121257
If DR3 Chiaki is dead, then that would mean by this time both protags of DR1 and 2 have lost their waifu twice.
I'll be waiting to see the DRv3 protag lose his waifu as well
>>147122311
>It had no bearing on Chiaki's personality.
Except that's it entirely. If you want a proper mirror of the event, Chiaki has to get blood on her hands. To boot, real Chiaki is much more emotional and was vocally disgusted at the idea of killing. Sounds perfect for corruption, but with no notable characters to kill, her actually dying seems suspect.
>Like I said, she is a mary sue. She always has been and always will be.
You are an idiot who has no idea what a Mary Sue is.
>>147122277
I'm sure my nigga. You got that wrong!
>>147122357
They may just be friends, but he cares about Aoi now more than he ever did for Sayaka. The same could arguably be said for Toko, Togami and even Weedman.
Twists so retarded that even Kodaka wouldn't do them.
Thread needs more HOPE.
>>147122379
>this is actually what happened
What will the mastermind do now that Kyosuke "Rules of Nature" Munakata is coming after him?
IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN EVEN REMOTELY CONSOLE
>>147122269
Yeah, I can't see Nagito seeking him out, but I was hoping for Hajime to at least meet other members of the class other than Chiaki.
Having Nagito shit talk Hajime instead of Juzo would have been cool.
>>147122273
As much as I want it, I can't see it happening.
>>147122403
It was the notebook, you moron.
>>147122291
>>147122147
>>147122142
Fixed it, for you.
>>147122403
It's called rigor mortis anon. Dead bodies do that.
>>147122386
Though this also was before Dr. Hoperman knew that Hinata was reserve course trash.
I don't think they could have met as equals before the Kamakura project.
>>147122436
Naegi's parents are the mastermind
>>147122481
nice, saved
>>147121662
>All series we were led to believe that they would reach a pragmatic conclusion
lol
Munakata literary became a crazy edgelord in the mid of it
Makoto was obviously right all along and in the end he proved that his platitudes weren't empty because his love died and he didn't act lke a retard over it
>>147122403
Anon please stop baiting.
That said aoi being pretty composed on the final scene makes me think she has noticed kirigiri is alive
>>147122403
No, that was her hand being slightly curled up in a resting position. The focus of that shot was the notebook underneath her body, they literally recycled the same shot from last episode.
>>147122218
>So what's your talent?
>I'm just a reserve course stu-
>Don't talk to me
>>147122448
He'll find the mastermind and then this will start playing in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmzay5oAwOM
>>147122481
Perfect.
who died
>>147122459
>I wish Chisa would feed me too
>I wish I could feed Munakata too
Which one is it?
>>147122481
10/10
>>147122561
Kirigiri
>>147122448
>>147122529
>Not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMiVeLTwQeo
For shame.
>>147122561
Kodaka's reputation
>I slaughtered everyone because Tengan said some vague shit and I have a picture of Chisa being evil
What
>>147122565
Maybe it's both.
Now that's some real despair.
Ryota needs protecting
>>147122561
not kirigiri. can't wait to see the asspull that revives her
>>147121576
So people would focus again on the stupid things and forget that he has a hidden plan going on too.
>>147122436
It turns out DR2 wasn't a simulation.
>>147122561
Persona's despair, Naegi's jacket and one fire extinguisher.
>>147122565
You know which.
>>147122371
>Nagito treated Hajime like shit in DR2 when he learned he was just a reverse course student.
Did he mistreat Hajime because he was a reserve course student or because he was a RoD? Or both?
I replayed Chapter four recently and he was a snippy asshole to the others too.
>>147122224
>>147122436
All the future foundation members are actually afflicted with despair.
Mitarai made an anime that cures you of despair, but once actually cured you're so horrified by what you have actually done you kill yourself. Hes also afflicted with the despair, and his bracelet is "Nobody dies during sleepy time"
>>147121567
>OP runs
>gets to the survivor counter
>006
>suddenly cuts to Juzo crawling, then collapsing
>005
>>147122590
He never wanted to hurt anyone, please don't bully him.
>this entire episode
Feels good being a Naegifag
>>147122588
>Smiles you couldn't protect
>>147122436
Kirigiri was despair all along and was the third Junko sister
>>147121619
Where's the Uploaded to the Internet option?
Has your opinion of Munakata Kyosuke risen after this episode?
>>147122649
He only got millions killed.
>>147122629
>cuts to Juzo collapsing
>007
>>147122629
It'd be a god tier troll move, we're all so sure the count would be the same next week and suddenly we'd get that curveball out of nowhere.
>>147121655
Munakata had no ahoge, there is no conduit for the HOPE fusion
>>147122674
You know nothing. Not about me. Or my opinion.
I'm guessing Juzo knew that Chisa had fallen into despair but couldn't bring himself to tell Munakata, in order to protect her and couldn't do anything to her himself. Munakata stabs him because he learns of this.
>>147122673
Nowhere, because Alter Ego Chiaki is a different character.
>>147122650
Feels bittersweet being a Naegirifag though
>>147122436
Junko's ghost is the mastermind
>>147121721
"Cannot Die"
>>147122565
he's a cuck either way
>>147122659
Chisa Yukizome doesn't smile.
>>147122649
He wanted to hurt Despair. That's good enough reason for me.
You know what would be baller?
If Hajizuru cherished the AI Chiaki and those memories, instead of real Chiaki.
So when it comes to facing despair Chiaki he just kills her non chalantly and says "How boring...the real one almost seems to be the arificial one."
Then we see how Hajizuru carries a tiny robo Chiaki which souda made.
>>147122674
My opinion isn't budging until he goes back and lets our boy Juzo finish his confession
>>147122508
Nothing you said was even a reply to my point.
Makoto's extremely naive/optomistic. Munakata's extremely aggressive/pessimistic. Both viewpoints can be dangerous, and the viewer was led to believe that the two characters would have to reach some sort of middle-ground between their views.
That didn't happen, and we got the same shit we always got. As you said, Makoto was "right all along" and the entire conflict was driven by a combination of other characters being one-sided in their stupidity and Makoto not getting a chance to do anything until now. I'm saying that this was a pretty lame central conflict.
>>147122674
I miss raiden
>>147122674
Still top tier memelord
>>147121721
His NG code must be something like, kill Naegi before the game is over.
>>147121655
If anything (and Juzo is really dead) this sets up the death flag to Munakata now.
The token "bad guy that gives his life the cast" is still up in the air because we still don't know about the mastermind, his motives, and we're still in a submarine dungeon. Also, Munakata is the only fighter of the survivors now.
>>147122758
Post more screaming Munakatas
>>147122403
Let go anon. You are sounding like a juzoboy
>>147122740
Love it, but Kohacka wouldn't have balls to do it.
>>147122277
You are literally 11 wrong.
Meme powers are real
>>147122674
Idunno, man. Seems like every episode has someone redeemed or getting worse, I just don't know anymore
>>147122224
KEK
>>147122674
By this point there's no salvaging Munakata. He's just so god damn ridicuously edgetastic and memeworthy that anything he says or does now becomes a joke. I wonder if it was intentional or if he was always meant to be taken seriously as a character.
>>147121567
What if the survivor counter isn't even for the people in the killing game?
If that's already a theory then ignore me, I barely fuck with this threads
>>147122674
Why is he crying?
>>147122314
Before memory wipe he definitely did
>>147122674
Yeah. Best new DR3 character by far.
>>147122224
perfection
>>147122716
If humanity is nearly extinct, it shouldn't be a stretch to assume all Future Foundation members and staff have a backup of frozen sperm and eggs.
>>147122754
Of course Makoto is right, the remnants were just victims of brainwashing, they're as innocent as all the people they killed.
>>147122740
Way too edgy, and besides that, he doesn't need to do that. Her spirit already merged with his at the end of 2-6, they share a deep bond on the same level as Ishimaru and Mondo.
>>147122758
someone needs to photoshop a gun in his mouth.
>>147122674
I knew that we wouldn't get a sufficiently satisfying reason for him going maximum memelord, but I was expecting something a little better than what we got. Pretty disappointed all things considered.
>>147122588
Protect this one instead, Anon.
>>147121841
In DR universe, the normies are us, stupid frog.
>>147122588
>>147122659
>>147122728
This is why premarital sex should be encouraged.
Munakata must heavily regret being a moralfag student council president now rather than a wannabe normalfag.
>>147122881
>misses out on fucking Krigiri
>now he has to fertilise her eggs while sobbing
BAD END
>>147122898
>taken right after killing elementary school kids
>>147122819
Hajizuru, Sonia, Chibigangsta, Akane, Cuck, Hopeman. 6. Well, that would work.
>>147122674
No, everything he did was retarded.
>Everyone is despair, don't ask how I know this lol
>>147122888
>way too edgy
Have you seen Zetsubou-hen, that is edgecityonly because the tone is completely off from the rest of the series, fucking hacks
>How does it feel that your tiny jap hope can't compete with the power of big black despair Munakata?
what did Tengen mean by this?
>>147122883
I still hope brainwashing isn't solely the reason they fall to despair. Brainwashing pretty much invalidates the themes of dr2 by taking away personal responsibility
>>147122930
>>147122898
>>147122588
How do you think Chisa is in bed pre and post despair?
>>147120642
>danganronpa, a game about using words and trials to sway your comrades' minds and make them see the truth
>naegi points out Raiden's bullshit and reminds him of when he wasn't so shitty because of his waifu
There was no other way this would've happened.
>>147122754
>Both viewpoints can be dangerous, and the viewer was led to believe that the two characters would have to reach some sort of middle-ground between their views.
I got the impression that the writers changed their minds about this being the focus halfway through or something.
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>>147122971
Your hope is far worse than just mindhacking, as any other reason would be contrived character assassin, or just flat out bad
Think about it, any other reason would be just as big an asspull at this point
>>147122972
Dominant (submissive with Munakata) pre and yandere post.
>>147122754
People ay Makoto's too naive but in this same peisode he showed that he isn't when he made Munakta fall into a trap where he created the situation necessary for a machine gun talk situation
Rather I think Munakata ended up being the naive one here
Makoto being right does not make the central conflict lame, he doubted himself and only managed to get strong enough to plow foward after his loved one death while Munakata basically fell into despair with what Tengan said
>>147123015
>shes alive
What did he mean by this?
I'm dreading the next episode. I think I'm going to have an aneurysm if I have to listen to Junko prattle on about fucking despair after actually doing nothing for another episode.
>>147121764
HOW DOES IT FEEL, KNOWING THAT YOUR BELOVED WAIFU COULDN'T BEAT THE DESPAIR
>>147122674
I want to fuck the you know why out of him
>>147120426
Why does falling into despair make characters 10x sexier?
>>147122968
>Zetsubou
>hacks
oh fuck off
>>147123015
Let it go, senpai.
>>147123051
>What did he mean by this?
You know what.
>>147123012
Probably at around the same time they decided to make brainwashing the reason the DR2 cast became despairs, which just makes Makoto's side entirely right while Munakata's wrong.
>>147122894
Wish granted.
>>147122932
>Asahina carries her child
BEST END
>>147123070
I can't let it go until they explain the fucking bottle.
>>147122972
Bully
>>147122881
I want muh vanilla ending ;-;
>>147123051
>>147123015
Anon...
>>147123015
STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
>>147121823
Now I desperately need an image of Chisa doing a peace sign in front of several black cocks. "It's me "
>>147122416
I don't even know what you're on about with the first bit.
>Mary Sue
No real flaws, or even nuances. She's supposedly a loner but that only makes her more "attractive".
Railroaded into being the main love interest.
Becomes the center of the plot for no good reason, and in spite of her character traits.
Has a distinct form of morality/purity that puts her above everyone else.
Has special prominence in both the OP and ED.
If you want to contend with "b-but she's not a literal self-insert because Kodaka isn't a gamer girl" then I don't care. The point is she's a flawless angel who will get to reign over the other characters as their queen. She will be a martyr just like in DR2.
>>147123068
>despair side
Is a complete hack job that doesn't need to exist
Was this the most filler episode so far?
>>147123098
lmaoooo. I meant like it coming out of it like the komaeda gun meme. But this is great too, thanks anon.
>>147123099
Any end where you get to cream inside Asahina's SHSL pussy is a good end.
>>147123015
BELIEVE IN MY HOPE THAT BELIEVES IN YOUR HOPE
>>147122932
>Aoi finally has a shot at Naegi now that Kirigiri is dead
>Just gets asked to be a surrogate mother to her fertilized eggs
The making of Despair Aoi.
>>147123151
no that was the despair girls episode
>>147122818
INTJ master race here.
Kirigiri best girl
I will pay billion mono coins if anime ends with Hina and Naegi embracing.
The buttblastation would fuel the nuclear plnys over the world.
>>147123015
Let it go, and move on
>>147123145
I felt the same but after hopeman pulled out the fucking gun I embraced it
>>147123145
You are an ignoramus and a moron. Shut up.
>>147123145
>>147123145
>>147123145
The sad part is I went in the most hyped for Despair side and seeing how Class 77 became UD
Now I just feel cheated
I'M NUCLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>147123015
>shes
Who?
>>147123015
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>>147123205
Why?
>>147123015
The despair is getting to this anon
>>147123211
I"M WIIIIIIIIIIIILD
Jabberwock when?
>>147123117
Weedman is a fucking liar.
As expected of the Mastermind
Look how the helicopter with machine guns keeps missing Weedman on purpose.
Will anyone ever tell Asahina that her brother is dead? I get the feeling the mastermind in a last effort will try to use the despair anime to brainwash the survivors into trying to kill one another and tells Asahina that detail to make her more vulnerable to control. Naegi will be the only one immune to it and try to survive but Munakata resists it enough to shoot himself in the head and trigger Chisa's NG.
>>147123015
Her grandpa's still alive, maybe.
>>147123015
Ignore these motherfuckers. We will dance on their graves.
>>147123246
She's in coma, so that's true.
>>147123137
>no real flaws
She not strong enough to win against Junko and Izuru if it wasn't for Chisa.
She drove her class to despair trap.
Junko is more of a center than she is.
She's the class rep so it's natural she get more attention than the rest of her class.
I love Chiaki but I want her to fall to despair just so you fuckers can fucking shut up.
>>147123246
She is. She is just a vegetable.
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>people actually think Despair Arc is better
>when most of it is written away with LOL BRAINWASHING ANIME and the occasional 2hardcore moment like Chisa's mindprobe
>>147123269
She already knows.
>>147123261
Seeing as the despairs were leaving Jabberwock at the end of this episode, never
>>147122971
I'll settle for watching Chiaki die with a dash of mindhack on the side, they don't really have enough eps to do anything else.
>>147123048
>he doubted himself and only managed to get strong enough to plow foward after his loved one death
That's not what happened. Maybe it's what they want it to look like, except
>Makoto didn't really get a chance to do anything all throughout DR3 until today's episode, he wasn't not taking action due to any flaws or issues within himself
>Makoto had no real reason to take Munakata's word to heart the way he does to begin with, but for the plot saying he does.
>Kyoko's death made no actual difference to his way of thinking, Makoto just did the same thing he always did. Kyoko died solely to give Makoto a confidence boost that he never should've needed in the first place.
It's a pretty lame conflict, because it was entirely one-sided and even that one side seemed kinda weak. I don't understand how you can argue that what we got was better than the very easy-to-take-advantage-of possibility of doing something different with Makoto as a character for once.
>>147123015
for (you) and the dumb kyokofagsNot all of them
>>147123313
doesn't matter both series are 90% filler anyway
>>147123313
No one thinks Despair is better, at this point it only exists to give slightly more background to DR3 characters or to shit up the series some more.
>>147123174
I'd be happy, honestly. As much as I like Kirigiri I always felt like Asahina made a better match for Naegi. Her FTEs with him were cute and she's really come into her own during this series, where she was looked on as just being a donut loving meme before.
I'll be happy if Kirigiri turns out to be alive too (unless she's Despair Mode Kirigiri), but as long as we don't get a cucked ending where Naegi goes off to spend the rest of his life jerking off in his bathroom, I'll be happy.
>>147122853
None of the images/records of their missing year showed them together. Not even an indication of a one-sided affection from Naegi.
>>147123313
Nobody thinks that anymore you autist.
>>147123313
A lesser anime would make Naegi piss himself there to emphasize how SCURRED he was.
>she lives
>REEEEEEE HACK!!! COPOUT!!!
>>147123259
I'M BREAKING UP
INSIIIIIIIIIIIDE
>>147123313
I don't think Zetsubou-hen is better
I'm not sure if brainwashing anime was worse than what the resolution we got in today's Mirai-hen was though
>>147123313
Yeah, Despair was initially the one I was l was looking forward to because I wanted to see despair kids, but Future has been much more engaging. Izuru and Nagito are the only ones really doing it for me in Despair arc. Seeing Junko is kind of nice too.
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Naegi, Kirigiri and Togami are the only ones who were present in all 3 killing games right?
Would the mastermind be one of them?
This show gets fucking stupider every week.
>>147123189
Everything involving Hopeman doing things has been pretty good. Everything else varies from okay to pretty bad.
>>147123246
Well you're not lying
Just passing trhough to find out who is >>147111111
>>147123246
Technically.
>>147122314
>>147122853
>>147123360
Naegi was the alpha male in his class.
Just look at the group photo the class took after the sports festival ended.
New thread
>>147123396
>>147123302
All of those are just plot contrivances. Even her being class rep, it makes no sense for the Ultimate Gamer to be class rep. Logically it would be Sonia. Chiaki just got to be class rep because the plot willed it and she's a fan favorite.
This is why so many prequel stories don't work, they give undue importance to certain characters just because they're relevant to later events.
>>147123313
Well, shows is written as one anyway, though.
Watching one without the other is like having hope without despair and vice versa.
>>147123333
>possibility of doing something different with Makoto as a character for once.
Like what? I'm seriously curious as to your ideas.
>>147123015
She's junko's body we'll cut to ryota dead on the floor with his neck snapped and her body missing next episode
>>147123404
No way.
>>147123420
>>147123432
We haven't even made it to page two, you retard
>>147123402
>>147123311
>>147123246
>>147123015
You chumps really want these (You)'s dont'cha?
>>147123452
Like what I said earlier in this chain of replies.
>>147123313
Despair went right down the drain.
What the fuck happened to last episode's budget? I mean god damn.
>>147122150
Well, to be fair, SHSL Hope is still a title he was given by Kirigiri and everyone just followed with.
This episode did show that his talent is still his Luck.
>>147123360
>http://kamase-megane.tumblr.com/post/106110725152/kodaka-christmas-tweets-2014-dr
MAIZONO SAYAKA: Ah, Naegi-kun. This is a Santa outfit, but I was dead-set on making it have a miniskirt. …How do you like it? Does it suit me? …Oh, you don’t have to be so shy about it. You’re going to make me feel embarrassed about it too.
>>147120884
How would Junko have reacted if she saw these eyes?
>TFW it Juzo is alive and Kirigiri is dead there will be butthurt from the waifufags
>If Kirigiri is alive and Juzo is dead, the cucks will rage
We all win either way.But what if both are alive?
>>147123436
Nope, she was chosen because even though she's distant she actually have a strong sense of justice which was proved and makes a good leader that cares about those close to her.
>>147120765
Weedman and either Juzo or Kirigiri are still alive, seeing as 4 people got killed last episode and the number only went down by 3.
>>147122798
>juzoboy
they don't even whine about him possibly being dead, the fuck are you smoking?
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>>147123556
What if both are dead and something really retarded is happening instead?
>>147123582
>have a strong sense of justice which was proved and makes a good leader that cares about those close to her.
This describes almost 1/3rd of the class though.
>>147123537
waterfalls in her panties
>one week left until mastermind reveal
>one week left until plot twist after plot twist after plot twist
So who are we going with, /a/?
>>147123476
Don't talk to my waifu or my waifus son ever again
>>147123635
Come on, Komaru is clearly Toukosexual now.
And with Byakua dead, her chance to strike has finally come.
>>147123556
They are both alive, Kirigiri "died" and has fooled the system.
Juzo is still alive, he's going to give munakata a shonen friendship punch and then die from his code.
>>147121183
>probably joined class 77 in their despair antics
>taught other students while despaired
Was Chisa the realZetsubou-sensei?
>>147123665
In-anime announcement of V3's release being delayed.
>>147123635
Don't bring that incest degeneracy here, please
>>147123333
>Makoto didn't really get a chance to do anything all throughout DR3
Ye, the killing game crippled him because it's a more phyiscal hectic killing game rather than the one he experienced before but he still managed to do things, like how he tried to connect everyone and explain the reasoning behind what he did through the communication
and contacted Togami (which ended up aving Hagakure I guess).
>Makoto had no real reason to take Munakata's word to heart the way he does to begin with
Why not? Munakata literary ignored his arguments in their first "fight" and said took advantage of the fact that class trials don't exist. It's undertandable why Naegi felt useless
>Kyoko's death made no actual difference to his way of thinking,
He could actually understand what Munakata was going through the "death" of the one he loves
>It's a pretty lame conflict, because it was entirely one-sided and even that one side seemed kinda weak
I disagree, I enjoyed this episode and plenty of other people did as well. The set up for it was nice and I think they delivered. Munakta ws clearly bonkers and he needed a wake up call, it was obvious that "pragmatism" wouldn't happen, at least not right now
>I don't understand how you can argue that what we got was better than the very easy-to-take-advantage-of possibility of doing something different with Makoto as a character for once.
They did though? Makoto is generally not an action kind of guy and he had to rely on that to be able to use his words to affect Munakata
You still called Naegi naive which I frankly don't understand very well conidering Munakata is even more naive
>>147123665
We'll likely find out this week.
I figured it out. It's not a retcon.
>She controlled their despair
Implying that they already had despair.
>Junko's despair is far more dreadful than any other. That idea had been slammed right into their minds.
Via the mutual killing video.
>Junko recruited the Ultimate Despairs one by one...
She didn't recruit those who would BECOME the ultimate despairs. She recruited the ultimate despairs, who were already ultimate despairs.
She recruited them as ultimate despairs AFTER they'd been brainwashed, and used their "love, hate, grudges, anything really" to control them.
This part of the game is purely about how they were controlled by Junko, not how they fell to despair.
>>147123748
It was never a retcon to begin with, people are just dumb.
>>147123648
If Chiaki didn't give them a push they wouldn't have done shit.
>>147121793
Hina has and will always been the backup womb.
>>147123748
Or maybe Junko just lied to fake she was hot shit.
>>147123803
What does that pic have to do with it
So whats with the phone
>>147123831
That's terrible writing, worse than a thousand retcons.
In DR2 Junko specifically states that she got Izuru to join her by "breaking his spirit". I wonder how she'll do it, since so far he's not been amused in any way.
>>147123845
It was literally hypnotism and her opening their skulls and messing with her brains, and she outright told them, knowing they wouldn't believe her.
>>147123533
She's just a tease you fool. Let it go.
>>147122224
Holy shit , that's perfect
>>147123903
I believe that was confirmed to be a mistranslation
>>147123903
His spirit is Chiaki
She's going to break it.
>>147123898
I don't think so, Junko was always full of shit when it suited her. What better way to make others feel despair than to make then think she's some sort of super human who can make good high school kids become genocide machines?
She could also do it to hide the fact that she had a video to brainwash people.
>>147123404
Junko
>>147123717
>Makoto is generally not an action kind of guy
Not that anon but that's not right, Naegi is willing to throw himself into danger when needed. Did exactly that in DR1 towards the end and this episode even flashed back to it, remember? Only real difference is that Mirai-hen has tons of drawn out battle scenes everywhere
>>147123921
That's from Danganronpa 1 talking about how she erased the class 78's memories
>>147123845
We always knew that it was literally brainwashing, we just didn't know the method. So we thought that Junko had despair superpowers to infect people around her. Or Matsuda somehow helped.
Despair anime is not as dumb as it sounds since it uses some legit techincs (empowered to SHSL standarts, it's DR after all).
>>147124002
My bad. I assumed the anon posting it grabbed a relevant screenshot.
>>147123665
Well, realistically the mastermind can only be someone who knew that Chisa was a Despair. Juzo being in on the plan doesn't seem right, and even if he were, he's supposed to be dead. How would Asahina know it to then say it's over? Did she find the body?
I'm betting Kirigiri WAS a Despair, and she left that notebook to mislead everyone into thinking the game was over now that she is dead. But the real attacker is alive and still active. It would have to be either Kirigiri, Juzo, or Ruruka. Of those three only Juzo's status is really unknown, but with that wound it's hard to believe he's still on the move and killed Ruruka like that.
Nothing about Asahina's claim that the killing is over makes sense. She's got to be lying or wrong.
>>147123998
By not action I mean something like a physical fight. Naegi is wimpy and quite weak, Munakata is basically his pollar opposite and someone he wouldn't be able to defeat only with his words
>>147124042
>Or Matsuda somehow helped.
That's what happened. Who do you think wrote the instructions Mukuro was reading? Probably Junko, gotten from Matsuda.
>>147123665
It being Izuru again would be the funniest cause it would mean Naegi is a fucking idiot for trusting him immediately after finding out he was the mastermind of DR2. It's probably Tengan though, the entire thing is automated so dying himself doesn't really stop anything.
>>147123982
>covered for Mitarai so people wouldn't kill him for helping her
>let him run away a loser instead of killing him
>generally treated him kindly with a nice secret base, plenty of snacks and even gave him a girl to fuck if he needed to relieve his libido
Damn, she was really nice to him. Is that how Junko treats people she doesn't care about much?
>>147124148
>the entire thing is automated so dying himself doesn't really stop anything
Then why does Asahina think it's over?
>>147124002
Obviously foreshadowing.
>>147123684
I think you mean
>Don't talk to my waifu or my waifu's husbando ever again
>>147123934
that comment and this pic, prob taken around Christmas too. she felt comfortable to ask whether closes look good. they were good friends, just like Kyoko and Makato after memory wipe
>>147123313
The best thing that can be said about Despair is that it enhances Future.
>>147124115
Matsuda is a shitty neurologist if he told someone to stab through the top of the skull.
>Robot doesn't count as death because robot
NOT AGAIN!
>>147124179
Junko is generally really nice to people who can help her despair plans in this anime for some reasonexcept mukuro. She treated Mitarai and Izuru like her complete bros besides the time she attacked Izuru (which was a test she knew she would fail anyway)
It's kind of weird.
>>147124238
it's the best kind of hope
>>147124238
FOOD BOMBS THE IN!
>>147124236
Or maybe his techniques are so advanced, they don't conform to modern neurology.
>The mastermind is written here in Kirigiri's notebook
>NA E GI MA KO TO DA
>Wait, it was Naegi?
>No, it's...
>An anagram...?
>>147122818
Someone needs to make a meme tier list
>>147124238
Why do people think it doesn't count? The mastermind still put a fucking wristband on, whether it worked or not, so obviously the robot counted.
>>147124276
Junko is a nice girl. She was a total big sis to AE kids too.
>>147124148
>It being Izuru again would be the funniest cause it would mean Naegi is a fucking idiot for trusting him immediately after finding out he was the mastermind of DR2.
I think that since the avatars inside the simulation got erased he shouldn't know that Hinata = Kamukura unless Hinata told him afterwards.
Which might make it even more hilarious.
>>147124182
Mitarai can flip the off switch since he's the traitor?
>>147124276
What about Matsuda? He did give her one of the main keys for starting the killing game.
I guess the fact that he brainwashed her to try and remove her despair was what made her fuck him up.
>>147122379
>>147122443
Prequels really do ruin everything don't they?
>>147124341
>What is a red herring
Until the possibility is there, you can't deny it.
>>147124371
Matsuda is a special case for exactly the reasons you gave. He's an asshole. Everyone besides Mukuro that's associated with and helped her has been treated stupidly well.
>>147123717
>the killing game crippled him because it's a more phyiscal hectic killing game rather than the one he experienced before but he still managed to do things
Makoto didn't not do things due to a crippling fear or any sort of fault on his part, that's the point I was making. He goes into action in today's episode because this was his biggest opportunity to do so (given that Munakata sets up a 1v1 for them and all), that's it. Nothing to do with development.
>Why not? Munakata literary ignored his arguments in their first "fight" and said took advantage of the fact that class trials don't exist.
Why should Makoto even give a shit? He's achieved plenty in his own right by this point.
>He could actually understand what Munakata was going through the "death" of the one he loves
Makoto said the same old power-of-friendship tier stuff he says all series. Kyoko didn't need to die for Makoto to say what he said at all.
>Makoto is generally not an action kind of guy and he had to rely on that to be able to use his words to affect Munakata
Everyone's an action guy in Mirai-hen. Makoto being naive/reckless, his Luck saving him and then him preaching about muh Hope is how almost every single majorconflict in DR involving his character is resolved too.
>The set up for it was nice and I think they delivered.
>You still called Naegi naive which I frankly don't understand very well conidering Munakata is even more naive
You can take Makoto & Munakata out of the explanation entirely if it helps you understand it better - rivalry between two characters is driven solely by one character being dumb and crazy, while the other character is always right. It's not a compelling conflict in any way, it felt like a cop-out ending to it even.
>>147124450
Was Mukuro treated bad? She genuinely enjoyed that sort of relationship so Junko just gave her what she got off with.
And she cared about Mukuro a lot, that's why she killed her.
>>147121734
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
>>147124358
Yeah since then he has even more reason to not trust Hajime since everything to indicate the RoD weren't going to come out full Despair happened after all three of them were inside the simulation.
>>147123177
get out nayuta
>Makoto is shot in the leg
>Completely fine every scene afterwards
>>147124566
It got him in the thigh and it's a needle gun, not actual bullets.
Obviously it hurt but it's not crippling.
>>147121662
They seem pretty intent on not messing with Naegi's character too much, he's been pretty static across all of his appearances. It's a fairly common character archtype actually, the MC just being there for other characters around him to emote through I mean.
>>147124566
>Munakata only shooting him once
>Munakata walking as slowly as possible while giving chase to Makoto
Why do they even stretch these action scenes out so much, they're not good or even well-animated.
>>147124457
I said the killing game crippled him because it's more of a physical type (one he isn't suited for) and he couldn't even run, had to be carried everywhere
He gave a shit because he isn't like you or me, he is his own character and he felt useless because nothing that he tried was actually working
>Makoto said the same old power-of-friendship tier
Nah, he didn't said that. Sure, he asked Munakata to cooperate but he also explained to him why his views were mistaken
>Everyone's an action guy in Mirai-hen.
Ryota is an action guy? Makoto is? Makoto has his luck to help him but even so he'd die if he just stood there and waited for Munakata to catch up to him
>It's not a compelling conflict in any way,
Just because you felt it was not compelling does not mean it actually wasn't. Munakata had good points at first but he went full edge. Makoto took Munakata's criticism to his heart and showed him how his platitudes weren't empty
>>147124457
>while the other character is always right
Hope always wins and Makoto is literally Ultimate Hope, what did you expect? The moment Munakata went full Raiden + the brainwashing plot in Zetsubou-hen you should've dropped all expectations of Makoto having to adjust his way of thinking, the story has unfolded in a way that Makoto's platitudes are never incorrect.
>>147124808
They weren't incorrect but they were problematic becaueseMunakta felt Makoto couldn't back them up
He proved him otherwise with this episode though
>>147124689
The physical aspect is irrelevant, the "clash of hopes" characters kept ranting about all series was made out to be one of ideals.
Makoto barely had a chance to anything and the moment he did, he went straight for it. He had no convincing reason to feel useless.
Makoto absolutely did say that.
Almost every character gets caught up in DR3's screentime-padding action scenes, yes.
My point isn't "just because I felt it", I explained why the conflict isn't compelling. It's because said conflict is weak, rooted entirely in one character being one-sided in how stupid he was. Munakata did make good points earlier on and said points were entirely irrelevant, Makoto didn't take any criticism to heart because he didn't need to. Once Makoto got his one big chance to do something, he did something and defused Munakata pretty quickly (despite how far gone Munakata has been for several episodes now)
>>147124808
> the story has unfolded in a way that Makoto's platitudes are never incorrect.
That's sort of what my point is here. There's not enough there to spread the conflict out over the entire show.
>>147121773
Would YOU risk it?
Who knows if the Mastermind considers that opening the door or not.
This Monokuma barely talks to them.
>>147122838
He just realized that he's been killing people needlessly, including Juzo.
>>147125089
Did you actually watched the Future arc? Makoto's NG code crippled him, the nature of the game crippled him and he pratically failed in every single thing he tried to do until episode 10
>Makoto absolutely did say that.
Nah, he didn't said that. Sure, he asked Munakata to cooperate but he also explained to him why his views were mistaken
>Almost every character gets caught up in DR3's screentime-padding action scenes, yes.
That does not mean they are suited for action. Neither Makoto or Ryota were suited to fights, Kirigiri wasn't either as far a we know.
>I explained why the conflict isn't compelling.
You explained why it wasn't compelling for you, I disagreed with it
>Munakata did make good points earlier on and said points were entirely irrelevant
They weren't because Makoto grew based on them and proved Munakata wrong. Ever since episode 3 Makoto was willing to work together, Munakata wasn't
> Once Makoto got his one big chance to do something, he did something and defused Munakata pretty quickly (despite how far gone Munakata has been for several episodes now).
Is that supposed to be something bad?Makoto's biggest problem against Munakata was the fact that he relied on hi phyical superiority, Makoto is good iwth his words, he is dangerous and Munakta himself admitted that, that's why he could defeat Munakata and convince him to work together
>>147122436
Naegi's true talent is SHSL Mastermind
>>147122674
Not really. He's a shit character, much like everyone in DR3, and the fact that he was swayed by that speech is up there with some of the worst moments in the series.
>>147125549
Makoto's NG didn't cripple him at all. Only affected hallways and he always had someone to carry him away from danger when he ran into it. Didn't affect his ability to *talk* to others either which is all that matters.
Makoto said the exact same shit he does all series, it was nothing new.
Makoto heading headfirst into danger because muh hope is entirely in his character. Mirai-hen is filled with action scenes hence it being exagerrated but it's the same old shit.
Makoto did not grow based on anything Munakata said, Makoto acted the same as he always does. He does this exact same thing in DR1.
It's bad because it makes for a lame conflict, which is my entire point. There's no actual clash of ideals here, just Munakata getting mad and out of control until Makoto had the chance to hopespeak to him. Makoto didn't grow as a character, he was restricted by the plot and then acted when the plot allowed him to act.
>>147125997
Makoto's rivals get turned into comic relief characters anon, it happened in DR1 too.
>>147121227
Who said they were over? Upupupu
>>147125997
Of course it crippled him, he couldn't run in the hallways and therefore always had to rely on other people, which kind of reinforces the fact that he couldn't do a thing
>Makoto said the exact same shit he does all series, it was nothing new.
The difference is that he was ready to cooperate and understand Munakata since episode 3, Munakata wasn't.
>Makoto heading headfirst into danger because muh hope is entirely in his character.
But that doesn't means he is a physical fighter
>Mirai-hen is filled with action scenes hence it being exagerrated but it's the same old shit.
The key point here is that Makoto is a wimpy and weak manlet, he isn't a physical fighter so throughout the series he always had some stong ally near him
>Makoto did not grow based on anything Munakata said, Makoto acted the same as he always does.
He did grow because he lost Kyoko, he could empathize with Munakta better and show why he is wrong, he could prove to him that hi platitudes weren't empty
>It's bad because it makes for a lame conflict,
And that's your opinion
> There's no actual clash of ideals here
Of course not, Makoto was always willing to cooperate since episode 3, Munakata wa the one making things difficult and going full edge
>Makoto didn't grow as a character, he was restricted by the plot and then acted when the plot allowed him to act.
I'd say that he did grow, the loss of Kyoko made him into an even stronger person or should I say reinforced his strenght. Someone who can actually back up his platitudes, the fact that he didn't went full retard is a positive point to him
>>147125865
I'd like to see how you would behave if I killed your waifu?
>>147126361
>But that doesn't means he is a physical fighter
>The key point here is that Makoto is a wimpy and weak manlet, he isn't a physical fighter so throughout the series he always had some stong ally near him
And? Means nothing in regards to how Makoto would act. He never didn't act due to his own weakness but rather the plot preventing him from doing so
>The difference is that he was ready to cooperate and understand Munakata since episode 3, Munakata wasn't.
>And that's your opinion
and it's a pretty reasonable one. Conflicts driven by one side being stupid and little else, and the other said being restricted to act by the plot and nothing else, are very literally "weak conflicts".
>the fact that he didn't went full retard is a positive point to him
Are you even reading what you're writing here? Not going full retard makes him a good character, and the conflict is good because the other character involved did go full retard instead?