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While we waiting for Gosei Oda to delivers on Mob Psycho today, could we talk about other things as well ?

What are you looking forward to in next season ? Reasons and expectations ?
Favorite piece of animation from this season ?

Who is the most moe animator ? Pic related for me. N-No homo
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Reminder that Megumi Kouno is no longer pure.
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>>147098694
Don't remind me ;__;
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZQ-EMIxM5U

Will TNK ever return to Mob ?
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>>147098598
>Who Is The Most moe Animator
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>>147098694

Will she ever decide to be credited as Megumi Amemiya?
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>>147098972
Probably not, but it's not like the show needs him anyway. Tanaka is old and busted.
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Who's going the win the Yonema blow?
Tarou2 or Ebisu?
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>>147099452
>bowl
Goddamn it.
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>>147098694
Are animators supposed to be?
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>>147098598
genius
https://youtu.be/4UqtXhDYNBs
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>What are you looking forward to in next season ? Reasons and expectations ?
Flipflapper - studio 3hz is doing it
Hibike - Yamada
Soushin Shoujo Matoi- white fox
Popin Q - Wait what toei?

BahiJD - See what he's doing and where he's at
shingo yamashita - no reason

Favorite piece of animation from this season ?
SouseinoOnmyouji OP2
Kimi no na wa

>>147099324
Kek

>>147099452
Oh blessed atmosphere.
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Looks like Kimura Keiichirou is animating Tiger Mask's ED.
youtube.com/watch?v=ttndwyst-Xo
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Why is Okiura so perfect?
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>>147099753
3 gatsu - shinbo
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>>147100228
Pv looks like trash
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>>147099753
Bahi is working on Kenji Kamiyama's upcoming movie.
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>>147099484
The female ones, yes.
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There are no fights in Mob Psycho's episode today. Sakuga your ass. It's just Mob one shotting every opponent and jobbing to a penis chin guy.
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>>147101607
It's not like you can't make someone steamrolling his opponents look well-animated.
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>>147099452
>Who's going the win the Yonema bowl
sushio

but she kind of gives off lesbian vibes, idk.
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>>147101677

Fights are offscreen.
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Yo sakugafags

Can you post your favorite sequences? webms and video links preffered. Also if there's anything good with 3D visuals that would be helpful.
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>>147101897
>3D visuals
What do you mean? CGI?
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>>147101781
Nothing's stopping Bones from adding new content.
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>>147102245

They have no time for that. They have already been cutting a lot of content because of the past faced adaptation. They need to end the episode in the Claw boss reveal so they need to rush this dialogue heavy episode again.
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>>147102360
Kazuto Arai confirmed he did key animation for today's episode, so there's bound to be some action at least since he's an action animator.
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>>147102065
Man, I can't believe I'm actually kinda excited for the final episode.
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>>147102564
They're not the final episodes, the anime will adapt side story novels after the big fight. Anyway, any animation enthusiast would be excited for the upcoming episodes given the staff. Naruto tends to deliver with its special episodes so here's hoping the teams will push themselves to make something spectacular. I must say Mob Psycho has set a very high bar this season though.
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>>147099753
>studio 3hz is doing it
3hz is what catches you? Not Oshiyama or Kojima?
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>>147102065
3D animation. I know there isn't much in anime and the few that use it doesn't look great at this point, but I'm sure there's something good out there
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>>147098598
Bahamut, Yuri on Ice, Flipfloppers, Handshakers, Hibike S2. Thats about it animation wise.

Also - Mob Psycho animation is shit, as is Bones in general.
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>>147102738
As far as full CGI in anime goes, check out Cassette Girl from the Anime Expo series. It's a good example of Kanada-style animation in CGI and looks quite convincingly 2D, thanks to Shigeto Koyama's supervision.
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>>147102782
I can't believe anyone would look forward to Handshakers for any reason.
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>>147102782
>Handshakers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9-7mns5vRc

The action scenes in this look worse than K's.
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>>147102836
Whats wrong with "K-The not gay version with lolis"? It probably become a disjointed trainwreck and some of animation showcased in pv is choppy - but just as with K it also shows lots of great cuts and anime at least can be watched as fancy music video clip.
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>>147102797
>Cassette Girl from the Anime Expo
Thank you! Kanada style was something I wanted to see and/or make with 3D animation, I'm very excited to watch it now

>tfw had it in my HDD for months with the other Expo files but never bothered to watch all of them
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>>147102902
You should check out the Black Rock Shooter TV anime as well, the CGI action scenes are supervised by Imaishi himself.
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>>147102689
I cant follow up on everyone in the industry. Maybe I'm not as exposure'd or just lazy to learn about more individuals.
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>>147102853
Looks good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izu1tiYukAc

Though because they obviously composed the scenes in 3d before animating to allow for such camera work, it at times look artificial. Still better than 2dimensional/static camera of everyone else.
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>>147102937
Fuck I hated BRS. Any chance someone uploaded the scenes he was in charge of to youtube?
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>>147103016
Just look for the fight scenes on youtube, Imaishi supervised them all if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure if Amemiya helped out too though.
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>>147103016
Why? BRS TV was good. Both story/character wise thanks to Okada, and fight wise thanks to Sanzigen.

Its OAV that was complete shit.
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>>147102980
So much fisheye lensing also It will look like hot garbage due to insufficient encoding.
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>>147102782
>thinks Mob Psycho is animated like shit
>is looking forward to Hand Shakers
You can't make this up
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>>147103016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0XssHL6ka4
>>147103079
>story/character wise thanks to Okada
lol
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>>147102853
>K
K is kinda weird in that while the action is rather bad, the 'mundane' scenes have pretty good directing (yeah, I know, not sakuga but they do look neat) like the earlier episode with the guy skateboarding around the place.
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>>147100194
He is too obsessed with realism.
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>>147103098
Its not like they are new at it, so know what they are doing - [K] or even Seitokay Yakuindomo S2 ep1 show they are profficient.

Their visual style is their unique trait, present in many factors some of which can be jarring - but thats the part of their appeal.

What i`d complain about is not animation, but choreography - while camera work, effects and select sakuga are great: much of their fights in K was simple uninspired swords bashing. At least Handshakers shows quite some acrobatics, so maybe they learned something.
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>>147103052
>>147103162
Thank you

>>147103079
OVA turned me off completely.
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>>147103079
No it wasn't. The story and characters were the worst part. It would have been better if they cut those out and just have the 'fantasy realm' with no explanations on what they are, just cool fights. For all the digs at Zack Snyder, he at least had the sense to keep the human drama in Sucker Punch to a minimum and just focus on flashy video game fights.
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>>147103162
>lol
Its essentially early Wixoss version. The story is good, not sure you even watched the show. Ocada succeeded well with the emotional and psychological drama and sense of mental discomfort that causes subconcious worlds to appear. The material was perfectly suited for her.
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>>147103311
TLDR: litterally 2deep for you
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>>147102901
>Whats wrong with "K-The not gay version with lolis"?
Everything? It looks hideous. I honestly don't understand what redeeming values there is to see in the PVs.
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>>147103345
No, it was melodramatic crap that got in the way of the action
The OVA was better
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>>147103403
>I honestly don't understand what redeeming values there is to see in the PVs.
It looks like [K]. Thats all about it.
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>>147103403
There is some nice 2D animation underneath all that CGI and filters.
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>>147103406
>The OVA was better
You should stick to watching AMVs on youtube.
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>>147103397
Yeah, Japanese Sucker Punch is so deep and the metaphors are so sophisticated.
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>>147103345
>Its essentially early Wixoss version
You're not helping your case.
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>>147103345
It sounds like you've never watched much drama if that's all it needs to impress you.

> that causes subconcious worlds to appear
Oh and you also need to read more literature and understand how to subtexts. Funny how the person who plays the 2deep4u card is the one who takes things too literally or perceives it on a shallow level.
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More people need to keep an eye on Fune wo Amu next season, it looks like it's going to have some real neat character animation
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>>147103686
Probably won't beat Kimi no Na Wa's animation though.
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>>147098598
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>>147103728
What the fuck kind of comparison is that? It's a goddamn TV anime of course it won't
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>>147103728
>A TV anime won't have better animation than a feature film
Great insight.
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>>147098598
>What are you looking forward to in next season ? Reasons and expectations ?
Flip Flappers because studio 3Hz seem to love working with based Ebata.
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>>147104860
Don't forget Iso will be there too.
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>>147102738
Some of the 3DCG scenes in Etotama looked great.
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>>147104860
Ebata a shit.
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>>147105359
His solo OPs and EDs are pretty one-note, that's for sure.
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https://twitter.com/usagi_rakuda/status/775341904716193792

Tachikawa hyping up the episode
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FlipFlappers is going to kill Mob Psycho. Bonesfags on suicide watch. Iso >>>>> Yutameme
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>>147107237
What animators can Oshiyama and Kojima bring along, besides Iso? Kameda managed to bring on a pretty impressive team for Mob Psycho, it would take considerable talent for Flip Flappers to match it.
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FALL OF SAKUGA:
>FlipFlappers
>Izetta
>Yuri on Ice
>Occultic Nine
>Haikyuu
>Euphonium
>Regalia
>Matoi
>Classicaloid
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>>147107351
Chikashi Kubota is confirmed. Ebata is likely coming since it's 3Hz.
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>>147107237
Jokes on you, Yuta also working on Flip Flappers. It's already confirmed.
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>>147107744
Proofs?
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>>147107644
Don't forget Fune wo Amu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOiIHHxMqE4&feature=youtu.be

Aoyama is strong on this one
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>>147107799
Okay, probably I'm half memeing, but I'm sure that he will do KA on it (probably under pen name again).

But here again, I'm trying to gather info on who's gonna working on it

Suezawa
Iso
Yuta
Kubota (confirmed)
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anyone streaming here ?
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>>147107919
Aoyama himself can't save the show and he'll most likely be spending time correcting drawings.
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>>147107644
Tetsuya Takeuchi is action AD on Shuumatsu no Izetta.
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http://mov3.co/en/tokyomx/
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>>147108246
Too much 3dcg for me.
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>>147108246
That's already on the list.
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>>147107351
Kai Ikarashi
China (animator)
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is that fire done by Arai ?
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>>147098598
All Out by madhouse.
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Keiichiro Watanabe ??
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>>147108632
If the timing is bad, then it's definitely Arai. He's no longer in the industry though.
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>>147109496
care to elaborate ?
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>>147109531
If he's talking about Jun Arai, then he's implying that animator has got a poor sense of timing in his work.
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>>147109582
oh, different Arai.
this is young webgen. But I heard Arasan is out of industry because many dislikes his attitudes.
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>>147108632
https://twitter.com/Barikios/status/775358810462363648
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>>147101607

LMAO at retards who don't read the manga. There are no action scenes in Mob psycho at all. Don't expect sakuga moments again in episode 11 and 12. It's all talk no jutsu from here.
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>>147110121
Oh, I was right then.
Do you get the full credit ?
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>>147110223
>There are no action scenes in Mob psycho at all.
Are you retarded?
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>>147110223
That's where Kameda will go. He and Yuta probably will add their own ideas into final fight, even might gone as far as changing the flow of story and fights from original manga.
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https://twitter.com/Disgaeamad/status/775360902061232129

https://twitter.com/triorgan/status/775332351450558464

ちな

I still want to believe ちな is a cute grill
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>>147110476

Turn talk no jutsu into a battle scene.
No wonder this anime is flopping hard.
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>>147110769
Why people like you (shitposter) always trying to defend your self with sales/stalker point/flopping hard ?

Made me laugh looking at your foolishness. You don't have any better counterargument.
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>>147110707
Has it even been confirmed that china is a female?
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Did Miso-kun animate anything interesting?
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miso
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/25343
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>>147112492
wrong line
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/25344
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>>147112302
Probably scene after Arai. The first part of fire attack is Arai, after that is Miso I guess.

Oda's part must be Mob vs Obaa-san, although I think he didn't do that KA alone.
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>>147112843
Oh, its already up on booru.

This one is Kazuto Arai : https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/25345/animated-artist_unknown-effects-fighting-fire-impa

And this one is Miso :
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/25344/animated-artist_unknown-background_animation-effec
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>>147101607
>episode was still full of sakuga
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>>147100194
>all that effort into a shitty CGI tracking shot
Everything wrong with the industry in one fucking cut.
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>>147112967
Wait....

https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/25344/animated-artist_unknown-background_animation-effec

0:00 - 0:18 : Miso
rest : anyone else

Agree or not ?
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>>147113549
Haha get fucked cunt
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>Still can't figure out Hamaguchi's part after all this one year

I'm too weak...
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>>147113650
The last cut looks like his though.

Anyway, miso and his friends browse the booru so they'll probably edit it if the artist tag is wrong.
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>>147113549
Just die.
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>>147113657
>>147114082
>I think the tracking looked good
Consider bleaching your eyes.
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>>147111404
no, he's a guy. Ask people on IRC for confirmation, I remember kvin was teasing Dis about that one day.
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>>147098972
Oh man, i used to watch this opening every time.
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>>147114024
So the fire part is Arai+Miso ?
have you figured out Hamaguchi's part ?
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>>147100194
Where can i watch the full movie ?
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>>147102564
>>147102647
the final fight finally started in the anime ? at what episode ?
dropped the anime but i wanna watch the fight
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>>147115231
nyaa.se
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>>147098598

>What are you looking forward to in next season ?
Not next season but I'm waiting for the LWA tv series
>Reasons and expectations ?
I enjoyed the short movies a lot but I fear they'll have to cut down on the animation quality for the anime
Favorite piece of animation from this season ?
The Mob Psycho intro
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>>147101897
This one is one of my favourite 3D scenes:
https://a.pomf.cat/ptcnal.webm
It's not all that spectacular or flashy but it easily shows how 3D can shine in situations where 2D might be possible but would be way too time consuming and expensive. All these perspective movements and small mechanical animations would be a massive fucking pain to draw while it simply can be rigged and simulated in 3D. GuP is generally a good example in how to do CG right and playing to its strengths.

Another example: https://a.pomf.cat/ianvoz.webm
The weight shifting and wheel suspensions would be a huge pain to draw while still maintaining all the accurate mechanical detail on like three tanks per shot
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anime is in globalization. Soon china will have better animation than nippon
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>>147120215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw3JHU2Q7vQ
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>>147120215
Anyone that draws anything still will win by default.
>wah there's no animators
>wah why won't people work like slaves for wages that haven't inflated since the 80s
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>>147120445
>>147120445
>chinese
Too bad, i would have given it a try if the chinese wasn't so terrible to my ears.
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