Why do so few anime benefit from being in HD aside from the older ones? Most aren't even animated above 720p. What shows look good enough to justify watch in HD, let alone 1080p?
I remember this thread. And it's completely false. All Cel anime benefit from HD remakes unless the original was damaged, lost, or destroyed. Just because you bought some shitty Dragonball BD or SEED BD and it looked like shit doesn't mean all BDs for 70s-90s anime look like garbage. 99% are improvements that aren't altered because distribution companies know retarded Americans associate HD with 16:9.
>All Cel anime benefit from HD remakes unless the original was damaged, lost, or destroyed
>Why do so few anime benefit from being in HD aside from the older ones?
>aside from the older ones?
Late 90s to mid to late 2000s shows were produced digitally with SD in mind. The BD versions often ends up looking worse than the DVD.
Last show I watched that was cel is Card Captor Sakura from 1998. Wonder what the actual last one was.
I didn't read the OP sue me. Last time someone made a thread and bitched about resolutions they were bitching about cel anime and how it looks horrible when transferred to HD assuming everything was an upscale because he bought a cropped Dragonball Z BD.
The reason behind modern shows is because it's mastered in 720p for space/budget/artist management issues, you pay for larger hard drives, better scanners, and you find a hidden cashe of animators that work for nothing, and you'll notice an upswing in resolutions.
>go to archive
>read the shitstorm that happened when eva bds dropped
tl;dr the max resolvable detail you can scan before just getting noise on 35mm stock is well over 6k, and 16mm over 3k
It's not that good in motion.
Wait, what happened? I remember reading mere months before the BD was announced than Anno destroyed the masters. Not long later, we got the BD.
Most digital stuff is done at or around 720p, so anything higher res is usually a waste of time, as it's just upscales. One that comes to mind however is Working!!!, which was actually animated in 1080p.
And most older cel animation looks fucking great when given a proper BD treatment, but many are just upscales and bad transfers, which is a fucking shame. RX782, for example, had to do a hell of a lot of work with most of the gundam BDs to make them look good.
Some of them looked fine. Some of them.... well, the original BDMVs for 0083 and the later half of victory speak for themselves. He did a lot of work to preserve grain, correct colors, etc etc. The kind of autistic work that you might not notice without someone like him taking the time to really make an end product that's as good as it can be.
I miss him too. Who's gonna do the G Gundam BDs now?
>I miss him too. Who's gonna do the G Gundam BDs now?
Bunnyhat assuming he pulls his head out of his ass, quits doing Toku for two seconds, and hopefully finishes the GGG and Mospeada encode.
How long have you browsed /a/ for?
>How long have you browsed /a/ for?
Not long, /k/ is my home board and I just show up here to watch the dragonball shitposting mostly, and this thread looked interesting to me.
Read the thread and use your common sense.
Didn't download the Stardust Memory rip and I don't really feel like subjugating myself to Victory ever again so I wouldn't know exactly. Heard 0083 got DNR'd though.
>I miss him too. Who's gonna do the G Gundam BDs now?
Probaby OZC. Some people on /a/ hate him for whatever reason but I have no idea why. Probably behind the scenes drama but can't worse than Coalgirls doing Gundam Unicorn. Maybe Bunnyhat? I know he did Macross but I'm not sure if he's interested in Gundam.
Neato. The Macross release was good if I remember correctly so I trust him.
Quick post the best remasters
>remaster shows all the flaws in the line art
Love this shit. So charming.
Not what I intended to post but I guess since I mentioned trust, it works out.
>remaster shows all the flaws in the line art
that's literally photoshop filtered to hell.
reminds me of those shoddy Disney BD re-releases.
>shoddy Disney BD re-releases
I'm still so mad about these
Disney MSRP on these are literally new-movie tier, around 20-30 dollars, and never go down
I bought Aristocrats because it was one of me and my mom's favorite cartoons, it looked like absolute trash I was so pissed. Not as bad as pic related but still terrible
>that fuckawful pic of The Sword in the Stone
did they have some intern do this work?
This is the type of shit Americans think looks good. Applying a filter doesn't make it better. It causes the lines to be blurry and more wibbly than they should and detail is lost. Grain and dust is fine to have, it's a part of the film they used. A good remaster keeps everything detailed and crisp with grain.
Someone can post that Cinderella BD review for example, it was not as bad as >>146699977 but still an example of why filters are retarded.
Shit upscale, same with Kara no Kyoukai
Damn, I remember watching the DVD rip on a CRT. Fuck, I was gonna rewatch it in HD soon. It's my favourite animu.
I forgot how bad it looked. How did the upscale end up so bad? Other shows with standard definition digital sources never looked this bad. Jesus.
I loathe when BD transfer apply this horrendous filter to make it look "nicer", it looks like fucking garbage.
Shame. It's looks great and it was before Ufotable relied so much on digital processing. Atleast the Fate Zero blu ray looks nice,
I know the blu ray box is expensive as hell but how much are the DVDs? I can't seem to find the DVD rip I found year ago and I still have the CRT lying around.
It wasn't so in your face until the UBW adaption.
There's a reason I have than CRT, anon.
DVD on CRT is a pretty patrician viewing method. I'm coming around to bluray though, being able to see the film grain is quite nice. Problem is all the horrible bluray transfers that interns ran through a digital noise filter.
Well, the other option is watching on my 1080p monitor in either a 480p window (tiny) or stretched to full screen (ugly).
VHS and Laserdisc both have a ton of analog noise. (Specifically) Anime DVDs look great on a tube.
>you can see all the dirt floating around in the BD
>Viz claiming that the original film negatives were destroyed
I am not kidding
This is Embarrasing, how much they dont even try.
>Everybody talks about how they fucked up the image
>NOBODY talks about how they redubbed many lines in the spanish dub under the pretense that the original audio files were damaged, (which they showed no proof, so reason to believe is not PR) rather then Disney just wanted to sanitized the old spanish dub to remove anything that is offensive
>ALMOST NOBODY in mexico notices this
>in the spanish dub
Grain is an unfortunate byproduct of film, and there is no reason to strive for it save for some artistic reason. Having said that, remasters shouldn't remove the grain as any attempts to do so have messed up image quality.
Watch the Dub on Netflix and notice if there's some weird modern sounding bits on scenes, and then track down an old copy of the latino dub and tell me if isnt true.
The part that i remember is when Arthur and Merlin are at the lake and how arthur talks about how he wants to kill giants, in the newer version they change his lines to i wanna capture giants.
>Para el lanzamiento de la película en formato Blu-Ray, parte del audio fue corregida de la versión de Edmundo Santos conservada en los archivos de Disney. Un ejemplo de esto es la canción del inicio, que estaba dañada en algunos formatos digitales.
>En la escena en que Merlín y Arturo caminan fuera del castillo de Sir Ector, la primera mañana del arribo de Merlín, la voz de Arturo cambia durante unos segundos (esto debido a la reparación del audio original en español).
>Una frase de Sir Ector, en la escena del descubrimiento del hechizo de Merlín para limpiar los utensilios de la cocina, fue censurada. Originalmente él gritaba "Maldito viejo brujo", frase que fue cambiada por: "Malvado viejo brujo".
Yeah inb4 CANT READ TOO SPANOL LOL
For the record, the movie was already released on DVD in the 2000s twice i think and the spanish dub was left intact.
Disney actually did a similar "clean up" with the dub of Peter pan when they remove certain "offensive words" but that version only aired on Disney Channel and Azteca 7, but at least they kept the unadulterated dub on the 2 DVD editions, not sure about the blu-ray tough.
Disgraceful............and i don't believe the thing about the original audio being damaged, if they have the original audio restored for peter pan but dared to botched anyways, i have NO reason to believe when they claim that the Sword of the Stone audio got damaged to them to sanitized lines.
After all, Companies can make up lies and everyone will swallow them
Not sure what you're exactly saying, but regardless of whether you like the look of it or not, it is part of the picture and removing it is removing part of picture and necessarily removing detail.
Disney Voices International has some idiotic oppressing new guidelines to their dubs. there was a video posted from south american voice actors about how disney wants their dubs made for babies.
And yes >>146707369 SJWs have influence over, since the Ghostbusters fiasco and Hilary Clinton were being praised. plus in mexico peope think feminism is still in the 2nd wave.
It's an American movie so SJW would have an affect on a Disney movie, hell, have you seen current marvel movies? SJW as fuck. But when it comes to international markets they have no power other than to bitch on social media.
I'm not sure if it's the case for FMA but some earlier 2003 anime decided to master in 1080/720p instead of 480 like everyone else. The only other shows I can think of are King Gainer, and GITS SAC
>peope think feminism is still in the 2nd wave.
How? Everyone has internet these days.
I hate it when people change things because they are not appropriate to their sensibilities.
like how people use nouns with both genders instead of the genera one because they are afraid of being sexist.
I'm not sure if it's a bad encode or what but it's fucking unwatchable fullscreen too. I think Haibane Renmei was fucked either way.
Who knows what resolution colorists work at, nut the point is that the finished episode is encoded at either 720p or 1080p and then sent to the stations for broadcast
Because they were mastered at 480p and then upscalled to 1080p using shitty ass filters
Disney's early 90s stuff looks pretty good.
From what I hear on Sword in the Stone, the production had issues between different teams and while most of it was shot with 35mm film, as is the standard for movies, some sequences were shot in 16mm and some even with 8mm as they tried to rush the production along.
The issue with those is that they will create wildly varying levels of image quality and size of grain when played back in HD resolutions.
Still no excuse. Some of the online HD transfers look miles better than what they released and maintained the original aspect ratio.
Here are a couple more comparisons with the BD and the HD iTunes version of SitS.
Evangelion BDs are my gold standard
gimme that film grain, I love it
this one is my favourite
Eva's BDs aren't bad, but Anno did fuck with them a lot more than he should have during the remastering process.
In the end, they're not even the best BD release of a title he directed.
Nothing is impossible for Disney.
This looks a million times better than some of the other early digipaint releases in the thread.
>will never hear her say shounen again