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What are some manga that changed gears and are totally different

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What are some manga that changed gears and are totally different from what they were at first, /a/?
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>>146534130
HxH
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>>146534130
Kinniukman.
>Starts of as Parody of Ultraman, Kamen Rider
>Becomes Best Wrestling Manga
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>>146534130
Wun Piss
Dragon Ball
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Bleach.
Teenage ghostbusters -> Saint Seiya Hakusho
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>>146534292
wrong
if you mean to tell how Chimera Ants Arc the tone shifted to a very dark one, then you weren't paying attention on York New or the Hunter's Exam

>>146534417
>Wun Piss
It's still sort of the same
It's just more plot central now, which is a good thing
Early chapters felt like filler garbage, I'm talking about pre Alabasta and Drum Island arc
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>>146534427
This.
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This thing.
>back then: loli harem with a competent and likeable MC, large supporting cast of colorful and varied characters with a lot of cute girls
>now: shoujo heroine Kaoru with her reverse harem and edgy fujobait terrorist Hyobu compete with each other to see who is the bigger Mary Sue, support cast either doesn't appear or spends most of the time worshipping Kaoru or Hyobu

At least the art is better.
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>>146534480
>Early chapters felt like filler garbage
What's the matter? Not enough fights for you?
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Rosario + Vampire, Berserk, Hitman Reborn, D.Gray Man. Funny how all of these started as some genre and became shounenshit.
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>>146534130
Negima
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>>146534606
DGM isn't even shounenshit. It's a mess nobody understand what it's about.
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>>146534130
Air Gear started at some point to take proportions the author had no idea how to handle. Personally I thought it was a mess from the start but everyone agrees that it becomes largely incomprehensible as the story goes by.
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>>146534417
>Dragon Ball
>totally different from what they were at first
Not really.
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Mob Psycho went from comedy to straightforward shounen.
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>>146534797
Farm slice of life was a mistake
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>>146534595
It was boring to read, it takes awhile to pick up
And Drum Island lacked fighting but the flashback with Hiluluk actually made me tear up.
Even the first fight with the initial Baroque Works people were boring
Most of them were shitty villains except Crocodile of course and Miss Goldenweek (she's not a villain but I love her power and cute design).
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>>146534130
Picture unrelated
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>>146534130
Is Ultraman punching CIA?
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>>146534606
Rosario Vampire went from haremshit to a good battle manga where the best girl wins and the same other best girl dies
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Hitman Reborn
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>>146535146
>>146534606
Wasn't Reborn always battle shounen?
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Medaka Box
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>>146534130
Air Gear
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>>146534130
Try defending this
It went from a great interesting episodic premise of the main character being a devil attorney redeeming cases of people being sent to hell while being innocent
It had a nice mix of action, mystery, and mostly suspence. It was great, the cases had likable characters and were memorible for the most part. There was even a nice card system implemented in the manga.
Few cases later it drops the act and goes full battle genre and turns into a smelly piece of shit
The shift to the genre was so retarded too
It just shows this childhood freind get blown up in front of Kukabara's house (MC) so he drops his attorney job and goes straight for his evil brother in hell who in the end turns out he wasn't so evil after all.
I forgot, then there was a training arc where Kukabara had to learn to combine the use of holy and demonic energy to get a new form by playing tennis

Awful, just awful
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>>146534791
The beautiful thing about Mob Psycho is that it's usually on track to be a battle shonen until either Mob or Reigen throws it off.
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>>146534130
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>>146535256
First 20 chapters were gag-like if I remember correctly, with reborn shooting tsunayoshi with a flame bullet to make him do the shit that he's too timid to normally.
Things change when Mokuro shows up, and it officially becomes a battle shonen.
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>>146535502
Reign is literally perfect
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>>146534130
Bastard! is pretty much the manga equivalent to "From dusk till dawn".
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Fire Punch.
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Dorohedoro turned from action mystery to demon sol to something that can't really be genred
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>>146535558
And arguably the worst Battle Shounen in history.
Like seriously that shit was doing Bleach shit that was beyond Bleach shit
>LET ME POWER UP TO MY SUPER ULTRA FORM AFTER MY BASE FORM BEAT YOUR GARY STU TONFA MAN NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE
>OH NO YOUR EYES REMIND ME OF THAT ONE GIRL I EASILY MANIPULATED AND MIND RAPED! I CAN'T DO ANYTHING
>HEY, THESE ARE THE *REAL* FUNERAL WREATHS
>ENDING? LOL NO, YOU CANNED ME, FUCK YOU. I WON'T EVEN LET ONE OF THE GENERIC GIRLS WIN
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>>146534785
The entirety of Goku's childhood has a far more humorous tone than his adulthood
It gets a lot more serious from the moment Raditz shows up
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>>146535986
He should've just plowed them both, he's gonna become a goddamn Mafia boss, as long as he's not a complete and utter dickwad no one would care. Fuck Tsunayoshi and that mangaka honestly.
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>>146535633
Apart from the mecha stuff nothing really changed
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Berserk

Dark fantasy > Adventure in beautiful magical land
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>>146536080
I think the real turning point was already at King Piccolo.
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>random Vampires out of nowhere
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>>146534837
your a mistake
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>>146536171
The death of Krillin is when you realize shit got real.
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I just wanted something simple and easy to swallow about a homo slowly becoming a hero in an apocalypse, but noooo
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>>146536164
Trusts the Hellhound, he will make Berserk great again
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>>146534130
An obvious one.
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Narutaru in a "total mental breakdown" way
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>>146535391
Oh god I completely forgot that this clusterfuck existed. I can't believe it went on as long as it did after the fucking plot flip which happened not too long into the series I think.

Also if I remembered correctly, didn't the author draw more tiddies to try to prolong the series or something? Such a shame.
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>>146534130
YYH
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>Alien angel viruses and black holes
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>>146534567
REMOVE MIKAZUKI
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Kilico. I don't even want to post a picture, because then I would have to relive it again. Just don't read it.
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I'm actually curious if LNs have something akin to a manga's one shot that gets released to the public.
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I don't know what the fuck happened here
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>>146534770
It was fine when it was about underground skate racing/battling and shit but then it somehow ended up becoming about world domination with giant Stands and shit.
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Medeka Box.
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>>146536916
yea i fucking loved Air Gear but WTF happening by the end
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>>146536433
No
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>>146536916
at least it looks p cool
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>>146537057
Oh! Great happened
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it surprised me
>started out as a slice of life, got dark really fast
>s4 when, they should start to get to the serious stuff in s4
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Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro

Started off as an awesome murder mystery manga, ended as a generic shounen battle manga.

Such a shame the first half was one of my favourites.
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Karate Shoukoushi Kohinata Minoru

Starts off as a fairly generic seinen drama/comedy with a focus on the protagonist learning karate as a driving plotline. Then becomes a super serious sports manga that has the main character take part in karate tournements chapter after chapter. I still like the manga, but i miss some of the generic drama of older arcs.
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>>146537057
Same thing that happened with Tenjou Tenge. The series became a giant clusterfuck. Oh Great can draw, but the man cannot write a coherent plot to save his life.
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>>146537452
Why do you feel the need to state facts that have already been mentioned countless times already?
What does that add to the discussion when the exact same thing is said literally everytime someone talks about O!G?
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>Berserk
>Punpun
>Eden: It's an Endless World!
>Aku no Hana
>Kokou no Hito

Just to name a few
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>>146537362
I should also add that learning karate was just an excuse to introduce characters and plotlines rather then be the absolute focus. The best example of how jarring it felt for me, would be if you imagine that Suzuka did become a sports manga instead of staying as a romance.
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>>146534130
Magi
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Anyone reading Stravangaza Isei no Hime? It was literally one full volume of slice of life comedy fanservice with a clumsy princess and it suddenly went full edgy violent battle manga and the princess suddenly became a killing machine.
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>>146537362
Is sensei raping his disciples as a comic relief in early or later parts of manga?
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>>146537949
It even has edgy fanservice now.
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fucking Shadow Star

starts out like Madoka all happy and magical then pretty soon full limb ripping and rape
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/GenreShift/AnimeAndManga

Most obvious was Karate Shoukoushi Kohinata Minoru. From violent psychopathic martial art practitioner to fantasy land MMA. But it's shit, so no one cares.
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>>146534626
I have a feeling Ghost Tits will go the same route.
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>>146536080
>It gets a lot more serious from the moment Raditz shows up
Besides there were serious moments in the first half like Tao Pai Pai,General Blue offing one of his soilders because he was picking his nose etc.
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>>146537362
This had a sequel right? Shame it was never translated. Minoru makes an appearance and spars with one of the new protagonists, beating him with no effort. He also appears again later one depressed because he thinks Nana( his love interest from the first series) got gangbanged by a bunch of black guys while she was in America. Though it turned out to be a misunderstanding, it was hilarious.
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>>146538029
If you are talking about the brazilian jiu-jitsu guy raping men around the university campus, he had a small arc near the beginning. Otherwise im not sure what you mean, as i dont remember a "sensei" raping his disciples.
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>>146538341

If anything the brazillian guy raped the sensei in Okinawa arc. Piece of shit manga. I regret reading it.
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>>146538341
I don't know, there was thread about it on /a/. Didn't read it though. But that's probably it if that's the only occurence of rape in the series.
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>>146537920
As much as I enjoyed the Babanomics arc, I miss the old dungeon crawling and adventures from the beginning of the series. At least Alibaba finally got a waifu.
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>>146534417
>Wun Piss
>totally different
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>>146538706
It could have easily been 1000 chapters of dungeon crawling if the author didn't get caught up in world building and her husbando.
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>>146538706
I just started reading it but damn, Ohtaka sure knows how to draw beautiful girls. Pic related is literal perfection.
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>>146538341
Is this the series with tons of male on male rape then? I remember a thread about some martial arts guy who raped people but I don't know if this is it
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Iroha

Episode 1
>work is hard
>some people are not a fan of mc
>generally not happy

Episode 10
>lol everyone loves me
>i can do whatever i want
>oh no baa-chan will scold me but i'm still going to run around and have adventures
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>ctrl f helck
>phrase not found
disappointed desu
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>>146536433
what
it was always going to be about a guy with magic sun breath killing a vampire, the first few chapters were for explaining the backstory
unless you mean stands, but that was made up just to replace ripple
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>>146537255
source?
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>>146539467
Lurk more.
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>>146539368
I don't know if Helck completely qualifies, there was plenty of foreshadowing that shit was going to hit the fans.
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>>146539772
i personally am not the type of guy to read too hard between the lines desu.
the only thing i remember was chuckling at the first few chapters then suddenly YOU SHOULD SMILE DONT CRY
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>>146539178
This series doesn't have tons of male on male rape, it does have a character introduced near the beginning (brazilian guy) that is a homosexual and rapes good looking men. He joins the protags karate club and is a comic relief character that threatens to bum him occasionally. No actual rape or sex is drawn or depicted, just implied.
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>>146539422
The demographic changed from shounen to seinen in Part 7, and then it goes from a straight battle manga to a mystery series with fights and comedy ib Part 8.
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>>146539933
Well, Helck had always been talking about how he wanted to kill all humans in the early chapters, despite being a human himself. It was either brain damage or severe trauma. We got the latter. I think the author simply started off as comedy to give the tragedy part a greater impact on the reader and also to get a solid fanbase early - since it's already full of edge manga and if helck had started as that nobody would've really paid attention to it.
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>>146534130
prison school
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>threads like these
>get interested in reading some of the listed series but know I shouldn't

>>146536760
That just makes me want to read it
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>>146540008
Why the chapters separated into parts though? Is this Ura Sunday thing?
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People keep posting about shit that was lighthearted and got real out of nowhere

I know this is probably infinitely harder to find but is there any series where it starts out edgy and/or violent and becomes all cheery sol ?
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>>146540263
Beelzebub, but it got axed.

Also Berserk, kind of. The latest chapters seem to be all about healing.
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>>146540263
Needless?
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>>146540309
>Beelzebub

I've read and watched Beelzebub that only sounds true about the anime and that is because it was in a timeslot for kids before they went to school
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>>146534130
Fire Punch.
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>>146537362
One of the worst martial arts manga ever made. Who actually believes karate is that useful
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>>146536400
Which has been done to death in western media. There can only so much to be done with zombies in a single work before it becomes mundane.
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>>146534130

Berserk once they meet witch loli.
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>>146540701
Glad i dropped this shit after 3 chapters, but what the hell is the context of this page?
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>>146540701
That last chapter is just depressing. Oh well.

>>146541468
Fire Man got an immortal mentor. She taught him a lot of things. One of them is English to distract him from pain.
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>>146540989
wasn't there still gob raping and kushan demon making going on after they met?
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>>146535391
I forgot about this and got ticked it went on the way it did
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>>146534567
>At least the art is better.
I've never read this series but the left looks way better to me.
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>>146534417
>>146535557
The only thing that really changed about Dragon Ball was the scale of the fights and powers. That and the cast slowly changing as the characters grew older and went their separate ways.
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Going from Immortal Regis to Cavalier of the Abyss, was a bit shocking, to say the least.
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>>146534567
I remember this series. I've been meaning to pick it back up, does it really turn into some reverse harem? I remember the redheaded tomboy being head over heels for glasses-kun. So does she have a bunch of guys who want to fuck her now?
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>>146541798
Forgot to add:
Depore is best grill
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>>146537255
Wtf?? Yuru Yuri gets dark??
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>>146541798
What happened to this series? The author is off drawing porn now. Did it get axed? I still want to know what Serin did to turn the MC from Regis into the cold blood tyrant the he is in CoA. With all the children/bloodline drama at first, I assumed she cucked him. But it looks like she just massively fucked him over somehow.
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>>146541940

I still want know what happens to his brother
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>>146541940
Looks like it's on hiatus for now.
At least I hope so, because I was intrigued by the story, and there was so much unexplained stuff that happened.
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This is actually my favorite thing after rushed endings to an axed manga (I don't know why).
The best examples are Mahou Sensei Negima and Medaka Box, already mentioned.

A good example is I am an hero but it shifts genre really really early so it depends.

Princess Tutu goes edgy pretty fast, Madoka-style.

Aa! Megami-sama has a breaking point of FUCKING RAGE which I am not going to spoil.

Tsubasa went the EDGY route in the middle, expected of Clamp.

One of the unexpected twists and added seriousness was in Trigun, however I have a duckling's syndrome.
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>>146541940
Not only that, she's working with the villain now. I hope it comes back, I really want to know what's going on with her.
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>>146541838
Kaoru is still in love with Minamoto but in addition to Minamoto beginning to gain feelings for her and Hyobu's mix of admiration and obsession they introduce a new guy with glasses whose entire character is that he wants to fuck Kaoru (and getting frustrated because he knows she only has eyes for Minamoto). They also bring back Yuuri just to make her yuribait for Kaoru. And when the manga isn't about Kaoru it is about Hyobu.
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>>146542367
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>>146535557
DB never really recovered after the WW2 fighter pilot Bulma arc.
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I'm trying to come up with a mango right now based on this premise. At first I just wanted a mango that changes genre with each chapter or episode the way Walking Dead shifts every half season, but I'm just fooling myself. I know to /a/ it will just be lopped up with these. So the question is, where do I have to play it safe to ensure you take the bait and stay hooked?

Please keep in mind that my mango has no fan-service. The first "season" is kinda Rurouni Kenshin season 1, but more cerebral. It's about a guy learning to integrate peacefully into society, while others want a piece of him, and how he has to cope with that. Gradually, the power scales keep rising though with technology until it may be full-blown Gundam. (Obviously the concept of "time" is very loose in my series.)
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>>146534130
Well, not totally different, but I liked that in the middle of Devilman the author warns you that it's not gonna be monster of the week stuff anymore. Pic related.
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>>146542543
Each chapter/episode is an Excel saga way.
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>>146542844
What do you mean by this exactly?
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>>146534130
Went from an edgy manga with lots of /tg/ shit to a boring card game series.
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>>146540367
gosh i liked needless. great ending
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Medaka Box did this after every single arc and it was great
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>>146542242
Apparently the series is on hiatus. I guess one of the two people that make up the creator of this series is taking a break, since the other is doing some porn series called Lilith's Cord. I just hope it doesn't turn out that Serin cucked him and had a kid with his brother or somebody else. Nex has suffered enough.
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>>146536164
>>146540309
>>146540989
people actually believe Berserk is going to stay on this tone
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>>146543197
You're deluded if you think Miura is going to repeat the Eclipse.
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>>146543197
He literally has a fucking chapter explaining the transition from dark low fantasy to bright high fantasy you shitter.
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>>146543197
Miura said that he's not going to give Berserk a dark ending. Also, we're possibly entering one of the last arcs of the manga. So yes, to think Berserk will stay on lighter tones than it used to be is a respectable opinion with ground to stand on.
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>>146534130
At least post a relevant picture.
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>>146537255
which chapter was this please?
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>>146534130
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>>146536164
All hail weird spirit wolf to make Berserk great again.
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>>146536219
Did anybody say Gantz yet0
?
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>>146536400
It's so good though.
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>>146534417
You were the faggot in that "mangaka that can't draw" thread, weren't you?
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>>146544278
Berserk is going in a great direction, fuck you.
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>>146543048
Oh wow, totally forgot about that one.
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>>146544384
no u
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>>146534130
Hitman Reborn
Berserk
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>>146534661
DGM is the manga equivalent of having a stroke.
Kinda like Tenjo Tenge.
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>>146544252

Even after reading through several times I remain unconvinced that he is doing anything but shaking up with a loli
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>>146544399
what's the deal with this one?
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>>146544789
Daily life & sadness of a baby human and wild animals becomes a standard battle shonen.
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Not manga but, Samurai Flamenco
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happy world goes from
>the beginning of YYH written by rumiko takahashi
to
>WHY DOES GOD LET WARS AND SHIT HAPPEN?
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>>146534130
Aku no Hana changed by a large margin once he moved out of town.
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>>146534130
Berserk, multiple times.
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>>146544849
>Time traveling
>Gigantic gattai beasts
>Biological weapons

>Standar Shonen
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>>146544318
gantz was kind of always the same thing though

just gory bullshit and nudity and stuff

the mc tries to fuck people and then they die

and then when he finally gets a gf he has to save her

like i guess that's the biggest change
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>>146539127
>world building and her husbando
But those are the best thing about it though (unless you count solomon's story as being a part of it). I mean I really loved the world building and the adventures, but the fight against Il Illah was boring as hell, and I really don't like the overall al thamen plot, except for Hakuryuu being based.
The characters and the different nations and also social commentary (which is obvious enough but still not heavy enough to feel like the author is forcing his worldview on the reader, except maybe a few times) plus the adventures that the heroes go through are god tier. Shame the solomon plot is boring and somewhat nonsensical, even if original.
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>>146536821
I don't think they do, but for a lot of them WNs basically serve that purpose already, without the publisher needing to be involved at that stage at all.
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>>146536171
Taopaipai was really when Toriyama stopped dicking around and made it the fighting manga it was clearly meant to be.
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>>146535966
I dunno it just felt like the plot moving on to me, there wasn't a definite, clear genre shift.
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>>146534837
It was great
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>>146544849
> imply raiku's mangas aren't top tier battle shounen
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>>146535986
Reborn wasn't that bad.
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>>146535808
>it was a comedy all along
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>>146546548
it was pretty bad senpai, I would have liked it if they actually did mafia shit while still being a battle shounen tho
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>>146535558
Actually that wasn't until chapter 60. So a bunch of gag but it wasn't getting the right ratings so they incorporate the battle shonen
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>>146538039
This sounds like my kind of stuff.
Is it any good?
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>>146544186
>>146541906
>>146539467
its suprising isint it? after so many chapters of pure love yui leaves and the whole thing goes to shit, i miss best girl Akari, its not worth reading anymore
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>>146544399

It was pretty obviously planned out early on. Last arc escalated way too fast though

Also the hyena was best girl
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>>146534480
He probably watched the 2011 version. The Hunter Exam was a fucking little kids' cartoon
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>>146534130
I'd say Code Geass

Because it just kept getting worse
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went from pretty cool sports shounen with above average art to Oyasumi Punpun with inoue tier art
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>>146543048
Actually.... the manga doesn't do it so much.

Obviously you've got the first 7 books
- Duelist Kingdom is surprisingly plot heavy
- Fair on Battle City but it's pacing is fucking breakneck despite being 3 years long.

Then you've got Millennium World where there's no cards at all really until the end.
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>>146547327
That's mostly a lie.

You can definitely point to specific episodes of Code Geass and say they got worse compared to earlier stuff, but there were also some that got better including the finale. So it had highs and lows throughout. Didn't really change into something totally unrelated though.
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>>146544252
Hoshisato did this other manga called yume ka mo shinnai. If it's ever scanlated I'd die content.
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>>146547816
do it yourself, and then release bits and pieces to /a/nons just to watch them suffer of jealousy
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>>146547642
Someone else but had to weigh in.

I watched that with my sister back when it aired after mostly liking the first series.

R2 was one of the funniest experiences we had watching an anime, seeing just how fucking shit it would get week after week and just what they would fuck up or throw away next.

Good times. Thanks for the reminder.
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>>146547885
Pretty sure no one but me would read it.
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>>146534130
JoJo
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everyone saying I AM A HERO shifted and became a different manga


it hasnt shifted at all

Hideo is still an asshole coward weather or not its zombies or aliens. hideo still makes hiromi peddle the bike, he still runs away,

antagonist has changed but the point is hes still fucked
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>>146546997
Such a promising start. Great characterizations, mystery, cool shit, cute with a hint of darkness. Then everything goes to shit, full edge, characterization is thrown out the window and the finale tries to outdo urutsukidouji.
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>>146535316
Air gear was a fucking ride.
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>>146548134
>hideo still makes hiromi peddle the bike
how fuckin far behind are you
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>>146548316
I clocked out after Obama showed up and possessed that girl's body. What the fuck does Oh Great smoke?
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>>146537255
I want to read this now.
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>>146540802
Yeah go face a kyokushinkai fighter and come back to tell us how useless his fighting style was.
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>>146548421
He skates with the main cast later and uses a m16 during a fight. I don't remember her getting her body back.
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>>146538034
Looks like I might need to pick it up again.
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>>146539933
Well it wasn't totally sudden, the whole debacle with the berserker knight in the green desert was somewhat early on and that was the first really soul crushing moment that hit us. Not just that but it foreshadowed quite a great deal of heavy plot stuff that was soon to come so it's not like it was just thrown in there haphazardly to make us cry, it was actually quite important which is what gives it so much weight in addition to the sheer contrast with the manga's usually upbeat tone.
>>146540008
The thing I think I respect about the story most is how clear it is by the way things panned out that the author knew what he was doing from the very beginning. Going back and rereading the earlier chapters are slightly mindblowing how so many little details and elements you may not have paid much attention to before were actually building up to something much bigger all the way from the beginning. As someone who's very critical of the things he reads Helck continues to impress me on multiple levels.
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>>146546997
Not worth your time, to be honest. The ending shits all over itself for the sake of edge, and everything the MC accomplishes is thrown out in a single chapter to that it can have a Bad End.

I just stay away from this author in general now. Too much edge for too little substance.
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>>146540114
Does it get to be an actual adventure at all?

I was actually really in the mood for High Fantasy Adventure when the anime started to air, and I was very disappointed when it turned into a fucking locked room who-dun-it.
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>>146549846
It turns even more retarded later on. Don't bother.
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>>146548555
Karate is a meme martial art and will always lose against a real martial art you fucking weeb:^)
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>>146535100
I've been meaning to pick this back up for years
I've never regretted hovering over a spoiler this much
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>>146549776
Kitoh is great though.
Bokurano does suffering well and his bike manga is charming and fun with zero edge and suffering.
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>>146550229
You lost brother, I'm actually not doing a weeb martial art (unless you consider muay thai weeb). But I'm still able to judge other martial arts, contrary to way, way too much people, practicionners or not.
Actually if you "master" what's considered even like low tier ma (like maybe taekwondo), you'll still beat a normal guy on the street if it's 1 vs 1 and no weapons.

But yeah, of course karate is not perfect. It still has some very good stuff to use and strengthen the body a lot (still taking about kyokushin, not sure about other styles)
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>>146547642
It only started to pick up towards the last few episodes.

Other then those it was a real slog.
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>>146544399
Everything went downhill after the timeskip
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>>146550561
>I'm slowly becoming retarded
I feel this more and more as I dredge up more terrible anime to watch out of boredom. Too close to home.
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>>146550761
That's called aging.
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>>146550761
You ran out of good anime to watch?
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>>146550706
Has there ever been a series that was clearly and unambiguously better after a timeskip? There are plenty of series that I still enjoyed post-ts, but they're all not as good as the earlier stuff (except maybe Gurren Laggan, and I know there are plenty of people who disagree with that).
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>>146550561
>I'm slowly becoming retarded!
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>>146549776
Narutaru's ending was pretty shit but Bokurano is GOAT.
>>
Naruto: started out as a story about the typical shonen protagonist that while having a demon spirit inside and being the son of one of the greatest ninjas of all time was a total failure at it and wanted to become great on his own merits. Turns out he will do it not because of his own merits but because he's the chosen one.
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>>146534369
>>Becomes Best Wrestling Manga
More like best shonen of all time period.
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>>146537255
what the hell mate
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>>146550761
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>>146536400
WTF is that
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>>146553928
that was one weird ending
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>>146554042
Jesus Christ give me source. Reverse search gives me a fucking Marvel site.
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>>146536164
Saw somebody post this, and I agree:

Low Fantasy -> Dark Fantasy -> High Fantasy -> No Fantasy
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Wolf Guy
>wolf guy doing badass things
>rape rape rape rape
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Negima!? and Rosario Vampire both went from Harem Romcoms to battle shonen though Negima actually did it well
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>>146555482
lol i took my a while too, be thankful
>幸運のファゴット私は自分自身ことを翻訳しました
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>>146546548
It just repeated the same gay cycle over and over again
>enemy!?
>plot twist
>New form!
>He had something else up his sleeve!?
>Win

>An enemy?
Thrown in some fujo bait and it sums it up
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>>146548577
At the end she does. Unless you believe Obama fell in love with Kazu and asked him out?
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>>146555868
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>>146555867
>Negima actually did it well
till Fate showed up
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>>146556678
i dont know what youre talking about
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>>146547885
sauce ?
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>>146542945
Excel saga has changed genre (it parodied) almost each episode.
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Started off as somewhat of a monster of the week thing, but once the bad guys took over the world the overall style of the series changed quite a bit.

>>146535633
It went to complete shit and then became permanent hiatus
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>>146560751
What is this?
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>>146538034
Did she get raped?Pls no ;_;
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>>146560851
Guyver. Be warned that the manga scanlations are awful
>>
JoJo
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>>146542497
The best arc, without a doubt.
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>>146539127
If you want adventure, you have Sinbad spin off.
>>
Don't know if Toriko counts, I'm barely a few chapters in (battle wolf mom just died and they're going after the giant mammoth). This manga is sick, and I love how it's all about food and cooking, but I saw some people posting Toriko characters in powerlevel threads (some demon guy with super invincible, yet somehow food related powers) and I was pretty confused.
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>>146543197
Griffith made high fantasy real. It's there to stay.
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>>146561205
>pls no ;_;

take that shit somewhere else
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>>146536818
Its just a clusterfuck of gore. Not bad for a binge read.
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>>146534130
Arachnid starts as a rather grim story about a troubled homeless girl having to stand up against a yakuza organization before becoming ever too comically ridiculous to take seriously. Then after wasting three volumes on a unimportant crazy loli antagonist the author kind of gets over his drunken stupor and gets rid of her and everyone else and wraps up the story.
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>>146535966
I feel it's still the same.
It always is dark humour plus confusing story line and rich detailed panels.
>>
>>146534130
Golden Boy went from a young genius travelling Japan while learning and always leaving a terrible first impression to crazy sex cult bullshit and a highschool girl trying to take over the world with VR
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>>146564055
yeah the powerlevel jump is crazy
>>
>>146555934
Just like every other battle shounen trash.

Really makes you think huh?
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>>146564055
Toriko has always been part battle shone and part cooking, the author just put more emphasis on the former in later chapters.
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Law of Ueki with its stupid celestial bullshit
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>>146559542
here you go anon-kun
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>>146534480
Gon sure changed though

>ONOES I JUST WANT TO SAVE MY FRIEND
>ONOES HE SHOULDNT KILL ANYONE REVENGE IS BAD
>Yeah let me go and kill this fucking nigger right here real quick

That faget took a dramatic turn, same for Sunken Rock
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>>146536916
That bitch literally survived having her head twisted 180 degree around

Fucking Oh great
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>>146567517
>.jpg
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>>146541838
>>
SUP FAGETS
>>
Aku no hana.
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>>146546548
I think Reborn is the biggest turd I've ever read
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>>146553928
>the stone is pushed out by gas pressure
Jesus
>>
>>146553928
oh kago shintaro, I wonder how many drugs you take each day
>>
>>146566305
I didn't know there was a manga, thought OVA episodes was the full Golden Boy story. Picked up. Thanks anon.
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This shit
I was almost ready to kill myself at the end
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>>146537949
Bigger question is how quick it reverted back to SoL before she leaves.
>>146538034
Translations when
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>>146548384
im not behind. he made her pedal as recently as like 210-something
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>>146567517
thank you based anon
>>
>>146553286
I like you
>>
Jojo went from shounen with muscly muscle man to seinen with twinks
>>
>>146553286
Is the manga scanlated in good quality?
>>
>>146534567
>Just started reading it

So, don't bother with it then?
>>
One Piece
>>
>>146536623
Picked up
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>>146534997
If Ultraman punched you would you die?
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>>146571858
Part 5 was shounen with twinks.
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>>146573035
Part 5 was shit so whatever
>>
>picked up SnK long time ago because the theme of humans fighting against seemingly impossible odds was cool
>then Eren became Titan
>then bitchy blonde chick was Titan
>dropped it soon after
>apparently walls are Titan now
>apparently everybody is Titan
>monkeys are Titan
>everything is Titan
>>
>>146571858
Why not talk about part 7, the manga that actually changes from cross country race in America about a Native American to a government plot to steal the pieces of Jesus while a terrorist assassinates the president.
>>
>>146573229
>you are titan
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>>146544384
If you want Loli witches go watch Little Witch Acdamia. Leave Berserk alone
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I can't believe this hasn't been posted yet.
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>>146547018
Fuck to the off, I dont believe you
>>
>>146574325

The genre shift wasn't that bad until the sequel, though. As much as I loved the original, Shimoku kind of dropped the ball there.
>>
>>146537949
it was never just SoL though as the lizardman can tell you
>>
>>146566305
Is Golden Boy manga good? How does it compare to anime?
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>>146537949
this was one that started out as more SoL then turn to medieval, nazi, political, aliums, yuri. Probably missing some
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>>146575066
The changes happen so often and fast you get whiplash
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>>146575351
I miss when it was just these 3
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>>146572733
Just wait a while, it may turn good again if the mangaka decides to introduce a threatening antagonist and finally manages to let Hyobu get one-upped.
>>
>>146535257
This
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>>146534130
Soul Eater artstyle-wise, the first volume's look like drawn by a teen making his first manga, the final volumes actually look pretty good.
>>
>>146547018
>>146537255
You lying sack of shit, give me the source
>>
>>146575814

Last I was reading old hag was sending the kids on a fact finding mission because she was dying and hyobu was doing his 'mind wiped child mode chills with the girls for a while'. The series needed/needs to actually get serious and have death in front of the girls. Hyobu is actually killing people and getting shit done, mostly off screen. Whilst MC solves everything without bloodshed with 'plothax wings'.

It's got a nice foundation, it just needs to permanently get some stakes. Hyobu and hag have had the 'we are old and dying' thing going on for too damn long.
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>>146575546
I remember this horse pussy mango. Did they dropped it or something?
>>
>>146534606

DGM I think went from very generic shounen to clusterfuck. The tone certainly changed after ark arc/level 4 and I'm not sure the endless wave of power ups are over, but at least it's more plot focused now.

The core story doesn't even seem to have needed those hundreds of chapters with power ups every now and then, did she want it to be a generic battle shounen at the start? I've always hated how during the level 4 and alma arc the noah didn't kill fucking everyone, when it was clearly possible. Typical boring villain has the capability to remove it's opponent but gloats and doesn't bother, then complains later when they are a threat again.

Hiatus and the haphazard drawing made things more confusing during that time.
>>
Akumetsu
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>>146580099
Hyobu and Tsubomi should be dying soon-ish, the current story is setting it up. The problem is that the mangaka keeps delaying the inevitable with Kaoru romcom arcs or flashback arcs. At least the current flashback arc feels like he is actually getting ready to finally kill Hyobu.
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>>146573229
No John, you are the titans
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>>146564091

It's more the tone. Guts gathers a gaggle of children because he has issues and can't just kill them or tie them up and leave. He happens upon actual magic and gives his RPG band enchanted weapons. I've not felt like they are in danger at all for a long time.

The quest itself is more on the adventure side, conquest is mostly over and it's not like we've been privy to the battle tactics and politics even during GA. The tone may not be so bad if I read it all at once, the 8~ years of boat may have skewed how I feel about the arcs past conviction.
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>>146573229
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>>146581259
>that parody picture is slowly becoming reality
WHAT THE FUCK MAN
>>
>>146550606
TKD isn't low tier MA. Just an ultra defensive one. Low tier would be something impraticable in a street fight, like Kung Fu, Viet Vo Dao or obscure stylish art that could not modernize.
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>>146536400
The words homo and swallow shouldn't be used in the same post. Unless it involves Hazel Tucker.
>>
Ghost Sweeper Mikami went from sexy comedy to battle shounen with some good drama intertwined.
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>>146555934
Your first shonenshit? You're lucky, you could've chosen worse to start.
>>
>>146534417
How did One Piss change?
>>
>>146540000
quads of truth
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>>146585347
It didn't. It has stayed as shit as it has always been.
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