Kimi No Na Wa earns 770 million yen in 2 days. https://twitt

>>146381737
So, he has finally polished his movie to be on par with Miyazaki's ones?

>>146381737
That's like what, 60 million burger dollars?
Is that good for japan?

Shinkai a cute!

>>146381825
Taking into consideration the production costs, it's likely already profitable.

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>>146381737
>the true successor of Miyazaki

BDS WHEN

>>146381825
Unless it's an established big franchise or has Disney name on it, it's really good for an animated movie.

That's cool, good for them. I shouldn't let this kinda thing go to my head, but the good reception this has been getting has made me a bit more optimistic about it. Hope it's a good movie.

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>be living in nipland
>normalfags are making "kimi no na wa?" references

just kill me now

>>146381737
It was another boring shit. Shinkai should focus on the story instead of animation.

>>146382025
where do you live senpai?

>>146382027
maybe youre just to retarded to enjoy it. why dont you make your own movie then.

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>>146381737

>>146382027
It hasn't come out in burgerland, how did you watch it?

>>146382118
Not everyone lives in burgerland you autistic fuck.

>>146382151
Show me your ticket Onii CHAN.

>>146381737
Is the story same as 5cm?

>>146382235
worse

>>146381920
He still has some way to go.

Top 3 Miyazaki
1 Spirited Away ¥30.4 billion
2 Howl's Moving Castle ¥23.2 billion
3 Ponyo ¥20.2 billion

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>>146382294
>Ponyo is 3rd
What, So many better Ghibli films than this.

>>146382372
Fuck off Lelouch

>>146382372
There are so many better films than Avatar

>>146381737
So you're saying it found a way?

>>146381825
6 million USD
Still good.

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>>146382025
>This doujin

KyoAni chose the worst time to release Koe no Katachi.

>>146381977
Right, because the production costs were probably below a million dollars, or something.

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>>146382691
It's probably not as expensive as Ghibli fims but I'm pretty sure it costed more than a million to make.

This time it isn't a small project like his previous films.

Is it 2D or 3D?

>>146382812
Ate you retarded?

>>146382858
Why? >>146382858
I just haven't seen any preview of it.

It's interesting that every TV program about Kimi no Na wa talks about Shinkai's popularity oversea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dANLF1o_O-Q

>>146382372
Yes, like Howl and Spirited Away.

>>146381825
>Is that good for japan?
Very very much so. His previous movie Garden of Words made around 200-something Million Yen in 4 weeks.

For something that isn't Disney, Ghibli, One Piece (1.1 Billion Yen 1st week), Doraemon or Conan(1.2 Billion Yen), this is already a very big success for an animated film no joke.

So yeah, it's a very big success.

>>146382025
But this is a normalfag movie, what did you expect?

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>>146383005
>I just haven't seen any preview of it.

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People still falling for the SHinkai meme?

>>146383348
What are you implying? It's totally possible that this could have been a 3D movie, unless you've either read otherwise, or seen a preview of it.

>>146382681
Why? Because people can't afford to watch two movies?

>>146383415
>neo /a/

>>146383415
I'm implying that it's nearly impossible to not have seen a preview of this movie on /a/ yet. Shit gets posted and spammed since last fucking year.

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japanese voice actor

>>146383424
Shinkai's movie is stealing all the attention.
Koe no Katachi is having prescreening in 30 theater but no one gives a shit about it.

Only the die hard fans of KyoAni and the manga are going to see the movie.

>>146383415
shit gets posted under the false name from that mobile meme that seeks a path

>>146383415
Do you even know who Shinkai is my man?

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Is this thread of Koe no Katachi?

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>>146383559
Semen demon.

>>146383611
proofs?

>>146383424
No because right now Kimi No Na Wa is getting so much attention that it's all over the news and Koe no Katachi isn't and that's kinda bad. They needed the few weeks of hype for it and now it's stolen.

>>146383680
Did my man Shinkai watch Koe no Katachi yet?

>>146383611
The prescreening is already over. And the movie still has more than a month to screen for public. The movie it's competing against is the MAPPA movie.

>>146383548
I don't care about upcoming stuff until I can see it. Especially movies, who can take months or a year until a rip.

>>146383663
>Shinkai
OK I'm stupid, I missed that it's from him.

>>146383732
Is it the WWII one? I might actually watch that unless it goes full Barefoot Gen 2.0.

>>146383716
Didn't he praise the movie on Twitter?

>>146383840
Yep. IIRC they open on the same weekend.
>>146383844
He praised the PV and the choice of music. Nothing else.

>>146383844
Only the preview.

>>146383787
Still does not validate the fact, that you should've heard at least once of this movie. You're either new or really fucking retarded.

subs when

>>146383878
>Yep. IIRC they open on the same weekend.
Shit's gonna bomb so hard.

where am i supposed to watch this?

>>146384052
The WW2 movie isn't being particularly overhyped though, and aesthetics wise KnK is more appealing, but I guess normalfags will take wartime over deaf girl bullying.

>>146384055
Everyone on /a/ watches this either on Crunchyroll or, if you're hardcore, on kissanime.

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>>146383732
>The prescreening is already over
It has more than 1 prescreening, you know?
https://twitter.com/ultimatemegax/status/769736173757620232

>the movie still has more than a month to screen for public
3 weeks.
And by that time, Your Name will still be in theater.

>>146384052
Both movies don't have that much backing. Koe no Katachi is a KyoAni first production and isn't being advertised as hard as HS!. MAPPA's movie isn't even aimed at Otaku or the same type of normies that love Hosoda's stuff. Both won't be too hot in the box office in my opinion.

>>146383716
He likes Takamo Love Story so he's probably going to see it at some point.

Right now he's too busy promoting the film.
He went to like 20 events in this weekend.

>>146384157
>KyoAni first production
I thought it was Kodansha's? Do we have any place where we can spot the committee ladder?

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>>146384157
>normies
lurk more

>>146384214
Yeah, on the website.
http://koenokatachi-movie.com/

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>>146384214
The actual screening. KyoAni's name was the first one in the production list in the ending credits. Same with Tamako's movie and Kyoukai no Kanata's movie.

>>146384269
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>>146384305
>Wasted most of their bux to up the numbers of theatres HS! got screened on instead.
Goddamnit why. KnK is pretty much guaranteed to be a hundred times better than that shota movie.

>>146384126
Keep telling yourself that, honeyboy.
I'm just saying again, that this isn't a "new hot shitpost". Preview got published over a year ago and then got endlessly reposted until recently. But of course you never searched for the source or followed/ read about the slowly building anticipation surrounding this movie. And i have no idea how that's possible. Considering it got posted throughout the whole year.

>>146384190
Shinkai's got good taste.

/a/ always loves to make rivalries against Kyoani but truth is everyone in the industry loves them except Yamakan.

>>146382086
Somewhere in Tochigi. Not telling what city though

>>146384517
Are 2ch or Futaba big on studio wars?

>>146384517
>except Yamakan
Why does he hate Kyoani?

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>>146384579
They don't tolerate sekuhara.

>>146384579
He was the bassist.

>>146384579
Got the boot through a sekuhara scandal which may or may not be true, out to make his own studio, promised to save anime with a project that ended up bombing so hard the amount of sales it got became a unit to measure other series' sales, and have been producing mediocre shit since.

How can you not be bitter after that.

>>146382294
>"Gaumont and Buena Vista International formed Gaumont Buena Vista International, their joint venture French distribution company, in 1993. In August 1996, Disney and Tokuma Shoten Publishing agreed that Disney would distribute internationally Studio Ghibli animated films."
That just not fair at all. Ghibli movies were distributed by Buena Vista internationally.

>>146384517
According to Yamakan, KyoAni developed by using Shinkai's works as reference.

>>146384572
Some one talked about how well Kimi no Na wa is doing in KyoAni general thread. The thread is slow so it's not a full-blown shitposting like we have here.

>>146384941
>According to Yamakan, KyoAni developed by using Shinkai's works as reference.
[citation needed], even I kinda believe that.

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>>146384941
>using Shinkai's works as reference
Well they definitely do at least on the backgrounds..

>>146384941
Kyoani's style developed put of their subcontract work on stuff like Hare and Guu.

>>146385031
>>146385035
Sorry, I mean KyoAni's digital video department. (the one in charge of compositing and digital effects)

Can somebody explain how the 'write an anime plot' threads made a full blown movie?

>>146385226
Shinkai is a known poster on here.

>>146384781
Top 10 of highest-grossing films in Japan

1 Spirited Away ¥30.40b
2 Titanic ¥26.20b
3 Frozen ¥25.48b
4 Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone ¥20,3b
5 Howl's Moving Castle ¥19.60b
6 Princess Mononoke ¥19.30b
7 Bayside Shakedown 2 ¥17.35 b
8 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets ¥17.30b
9 Avatar ¥15.60b
10 Ponyo ¥15.50b

4 Ghibli movies are in the top 10 Japan alone.

>>146383696
FINDS

>>146385304
Okay then.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-08-28/makoto-shinkai-your-name-film-gets-release-in-85-countries-regions/.105846

>The staff of Makoto Shinkai's new your name. (Kimi no Na wa.) anime film announced at a stage greeting event in Tokyo on Sunday that the film will be distributed in 85 countries and regions.

Guess most of us won't have to wait long to see it.

>>146385898
I don't know if it's talking about theater release or BD/DVD.

>>146386396
Pretty sure it's for theater screenings.

>>146386396
It's an anime movie, what do you think it's talking about?

>>146386457
Shinkai had once released BDs in the same day as the opening weekend for a movie.

>leave Japan a few days too early to watch this
At least I got to see Shin Gojira.

>>146386646
How is Anno's masterpiece?

>>146387280
Pretty good. Has an "Anno-style" cinematography. Also it's very different from the recent American Godzilla, since Shin Gojira is 80% government officials talking at lightning speed in a board room. Really made it hard to follow, especially given my Japanese skills, but it's still possible to get the gist of the film.

>>146381737
What's this anime all about?

>>146383350
Should people fall for your meme instead?

>>146383559
Isn't the guy who starred in the Parasyte movie?

>>146387700
Get fucked.

>>146387778
That is literally the plot minus the AU thing.

>>146385035
>literally tracing
>with a fucking color pick tools

>>146388752
good meme

>>146384055
>>146384102
I know i'm not the only one who is waiting to add this to my Shinkai blu ray collection.

Blu ray in the comfort of your own room is the best way to watch these films.

Good for him, I wonder how much of this is due to Radwimps.

>>146381737
I'd rather not call Shinkai or any animated filmmaker as a successor to Miyazaki. Shinkai and Miyazaki are completely different in their styles of filmmaking. Shinkai, Anno, Takahata, Shinbo, Oshii, and tons of other filmmakers each have their own unique experience to offer, so comparing any animator to Miyazaki makes no sense and just shows ignorance of animation.

>>146392545
I'd say it's thanks to Radwimps PLUS the reputation Shinkai and ComixWave have built for themselves over the years as well as the enormous praise it got at Anime-Expo and a bunch of other prescreenings in Japan, which led to an insane level of hype and anticipation for this movie in Japan.

>>146393803
Also if anyone's going to be the next old man it got to be Hosoda.

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>>146394607
Fuck no. It's Hideaki Anno. Anno started off at Ghibli and Miyazaki himself mentored him and have been best friends since.

>>146395029
Anno has literally done nothing in 20 years.

>>146395029
Anno doesn't even want to work on anime anymore. And he hasn't done anything new since 95. Hosoda is the closest we got to Myazaki in pop culture and volume of work in their early days.

>>146395029
His appearance in Kaze Tachinu was great, and his animator expo is great along with the documentaries on the two.
I haven't heard too much about the new godzilla movie, but I have strong doubts that his movie directing career will take off.

But to be honest, I just can't see his career outside of eva at this point.

>>146394607
But a prerequisite for being the next Miyazaki is making good films.

>>146395585
>can't see a career outside of Eva
Literally all he has to do is direct a good film at Khara.

>>146381737
>be notable director known for own movies
>filthy gajins will simply regard you as "successor of Miyazaki" because of how fucking casual they are

back to gaia you fucking faggit

>>146395029
It's obviously Yuasa. But no seriously, Yuasa is the most talented in the industry with wild imagination. Nobody's going to be the next old man and it's for the better.

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>>146395029
>Anno
>filthy otaku

How about no?

>>146395615
Wolf Children was technically so well made. Also it is the 2nd best movie of the decade. Summer Wars was fun and The Girl who leapt through time was actually avant garde

>>146395940
Yuasa has mediocre scene composition and storyboard though. He hasn't done any single anime with good composition. He has a wild imagination and good themes but his work is so mediocre it hurts to watch.

>>146381737

In before Monogatari guy tries to talk shit hopefully. Can't wait to see how /a/'s beloved much hyped Naoka Yamada does.

>>146396051
>Yuasa has mediocre scene composition and storyboard though.
Are you serious nigga? He's one of the few guys that's successful in incorporating 3D with 2D without making it jarring.

>>146395984
Wolf Children doesn't even chart for best of the decade and only someone with no experience in cinema outside of anime could call Girl Who Leapt Through Time "avant garde"

>>146395281
Gr8 b8 m8
>>146395473
If that was true he wouldn't have given us Animator-Expo.
>>146395585
Anno's done more live action movies besides Godzilla. Look it up.
And Anno's done a ton of shit besides EVA like Gunbuster, Nadia, Royal Space Force, and Kare-Kano.
It's just that EVA is so monumental that it unfortunately eclipses most of his work.
>>146395940
It's not about being better than or being "the new Miyazaki".
It's about showing your unique flair of what you can offer to the animation industry as a whole. Anno and Shinkai should be measured for their contributions to the anime industry as a whole and not arbitrarily compared to Miyazaki.
Granted Miyazaki happens to have the most commanding presence in the anime industry, so I can understand why people would ask that question of who will have the most impacting presence of Japanese animators when Miyazaki, God-forbid, kicks the bucket.
If there's an answer to that question, not in just in talent and contribution but overall presence, I would have to go with Anno.

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>>146397055
Speaking of, what are th best movies of the decade? I've only seen these.

>>146397261
Watch both 2013 Ghiblies, 2015's Miss Hokusai and Crayon Shin-chan 2014. Those are the big features you're missing.

>>146397194
Isn't Kare-Kano the only anime he's done post-NGE that's not related to NGE itself.

>>146396051
>Yuasa has mediocre scene composition and storyboard though
I was going to call you a retard but you're right.
Yuasa won't wow you with good scene composition, but his visual storytelling is still top notch.

>>146397449
Thanks

>>146396870
I'm not talking about the technical stuff Yuasa uses. I'm talking about how he directs his shots. They are mostly uninteresting. Compare his storyboards to Anno and you'll get why he is a mediocre director in my opinion.
>>146397194
Throwing money at nobodies doesn't make him anymore relevant that Kon in today's anime. He simply stopped advancing since 98.
>>146397055
The girl who leapt through time was a breakpoint in anime movies not in cinema in general.
>>146397261
Colorful, TLS, Miss Houkai, Giovani's Island and Koe no Katachi when it comes out.

>>146397521
After Kare-Kano he did several short films with Studio Ghibli and then started working on live-action films like Love and Pop and Cutie Honey. And of course, Rebuild of Evangelion, Animator-Expo, and the new Godzilla.

>>146397261
From Up on Poppy Hill. Goro finally learned to direct.

>>146397753
How then, pray tell, could Girl Who Leapt Through Time be considered avant garde?

>>146397261
The Anthem of the Heart was worth watching.

Also, the previous Shinkai film, The Garden of Words.

>>146397753
>I'm not talking about the technical stuff Yuasa uses. I'm talking about how he directs his shots. They are mostly uninteresting. Compare his storyboards to Anno and you'll get why he is a mediocre director in my opinion.
If you're talking about dynamic or flashy composition, that's not how Yuasa's story works. And Ping Pong has pretty dynamic composition.
Seriously if you judge a director by shot composition, is fucking Hamasaki the best director then? That means Shinkai or Hosoda or Yamada who believe more in simplicity and fluidity are trash.

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>>146397753
>He simply stopped advancing since 98

We already established that Anno branched out to live-action after EVA and Kare-Kano while still enhancing his presence with Rebuild and Animator-Expo.

2/10. Here's your (You).

>>146398212
>enhancing his presence with Rebuild

If by enhancing his presence you mean "milking evafags" then I agree.

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>>146397975
Anthem of the Heart was ok but had a really annoying curve ball in the ending. It was where Okada started to show that her writing skills were declining before they completely went to shit with Kiznaiver and Mayoiga.

Garden of Words was great, but it's nowhere near as good as 5cm per Second.

And after seeing Kimi no Na wa at AX, I can say with certainty that this is Shinkai's best film.

>>146397919
The themes it handled were really avant garde for anime.
>>146398086
I do like Hamasaki and Anno's works more than anyone you mentioned. But Hosoda and Yamada despite having minimalistic storyboards are really expressive with them and the most notable example is the feet scenes of Yamada and the parallel timeline shots of Wolf Children.

>>146381737
This is the Keitai movie, isn't it?

>>146397261
Doukyuusei

>>146398212
>Kare Kano
I actually forgot that exists
>Rebuilds
Really? Are we really going to include those presequel tier of bullshit as a positive thing
>Live action
An Oshii like experience. Can't think he will advance much in that field simply because the talent pool in Japenese cinema trumps that of anime talents.

>>146398435
What was so wrong with Anthem of the Heart? I think that making the girl facing the fact she was just deluding herself was a nice touch. Also not every love story is meant to be successful nor people aid other people just because they expect to gain anything from them.

>>146398435
>5cm per Second
>good
Sure if you like mediocre stories whose only redeeming values are the visuals. I bet you also loved Shitgatsu.

>>146398212
>enhancing his presence with Rebuild
Are you serious?

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>>146381737
What's with all the gaijin in that photo?

>>146398740
Also, I agree that Kiznaiver and Mayoiga are irredeemable shit, BTW.

>>146397261
I like Hana and Alice, although it's not the prettiest looking film. Also the Haruhi movie is an obvious one you're missing.

>>146398751
>146398751
>mediocre stories

5CPS is great. also, it literally has the best soundtrack in anime

>>146398751
>mediocre
Fuck you. It says a lot about the subject matter in < 60 mins than most shows do in an entire runtime.

>>146387700
So did Kimi no wawa plagiarize from /a/?
Or was this idea brewing around for a long time?

>>146398532
>the themes it handled were really avant garde
I'm struggling to be convinced here, anon.

>>146399277
Everybody knows that anime writers regularly scoop /a/ for ideas.

>>146399277
Shinkai posts here from time to time.

>>146399318
I don't know if you understand french but the Dadaism and the regard absurde of the society that it had were really avant garde for anime.

>>146398812
weebs probably

>>146399506
I didn't see anything absurdist or dadaist about it. Can you give examples?

>>146399378
Source.

>>146399762
His big fat ass.

So basically it earned double in two days what Anthem of The Tweeny Melodrama Bullshit which was Aniplex's attempt to succeed Miyazaki made in 4 straight days of summer vacation last year and probably has a chance to build steam through word of mouth and not coming out of an otaku bait studio with no identity like A-1 Pictures? I think at this point Shinkai and Hosoda are the only ones clearly still left in this battle. It kind of helps when you're brand is being backed by actual significant people with real mainstream critical acclaim and accolades instead of strictly corporate bullshit and marketing.

Keep in mind Anthem of The Heart was supposed to make 2 billion yen bare minimum and the producer said he was shooting for Hosoda class numbers like The Boy and The Beast pulled in. It ended up at 1.1 billion thanks entirely to organized nation wide stage hand shake greetings with Sony's most popular idol group that it held in it's last few weeks.

>>146398435

She needs Tatsuyuki Nagai directing to be even remotely passable as a writer otherwise she has a tendency to go with the most ridiculously retarded ideas. She's not a real writer is the problem, she's an industry plugger who needs consistent oversight and guidance to crank out functional material but she will write shit at a rapid fire clip.

>>146399902
Take your meds, Aniplex-kun.

>>146400013
Hanasaku Iroha is her best work though.

>>146383248
>For something that isn't Disney, Ghibli, One Piece (1.1 Billion Yen 1st week), Doraemon or Conan(1.2 Billion Yen), this is already a very big success for an animated film no joke.
It actually made a total of 975M yen in the whole first week (OP just mentions the weekend), so it's pretty close to that range.

>>146398212

Honestly it makes sense, in the industries current state he doesn't fit in at all and doesn't want to just create strictly cute girls doing cute things series for the rest of his career. Of course he would move into live action or Western team ups or whatever like what happened with Oishi, Tomino and other directors from his era. The ones that stayed around in the anime industry like Kawamori ended up completely and utterly selling out.

>>146399661
The idea that everything the FeMC does is futile. The scene where time stops when he tells her about him knowing everything. The reference to the will to destroy everything for a piece of art all resonate with avant gardisme for me.

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>>146400048

>Don't say bad things about muh corporation!

>>146400187
>Oishi, Tomino
>from Anno's era
I know it probably gets hard to keep your facts straight when wordcount-padding at the speed of light, but Oishi's career began after Evangelion (and he didn't direct anything until 2009), and Tomino's career began when Anno was literally two years old.

>>146400187
>implying Anno needs to adapt to the industry to be successful
He can remold the whole fucking industry if he wants. He's just too much of a beta that he chose to run away from everything. Eva did really fuck him up.

>>146400187
>Oishi
I'm pretty sure you mean Oshii, Aniplex-kun. Oishi is the Bake director.

>>146400181

Almost at Anthem of The Hearts entire box office haul in a single weekend. Meanwhile Kizumonogatari II doesn't even seem to be on the charts anymore in literally only it's second weekend. Get absolutely fucked Aniplex.

>>146400342
I'm guessing he's talking about Oshii(GitS, Patlabor) and not Oishi(Bakemonogatari and Kizumonogatari)
Also you're right. Anno's line of work on Eva wouldn't even make sense without Tomino's influence on the whole industry.

>>146400454

>Hurr durr hurr durr hurr I'm trying to be funny Aniplex-kun lolololol

Yeah though my bad on the naming, I guess I've just had morons cramming Shaft shit down my throat so long I got my names mixed up. Mamoru Oshii is the actual good director.

>>146400518
Kizu is 4 years late at least. And it doesn't even look good enough to forgive the delay. Also fuck Aniplex's 3 parts for every movie bullshit like Kizu and HF.

>>146400539
There he goes again

>>146400585
Why is Oishi not a good director?

>>146383559
Well it's a normalfag movie so they would use popular 3D actors for publicity.

>>146400697
Because he works for Shaft and no one from Shaft can be a good director

>>146400342
Don't you know? Every director that anime-is-dead-fags like is part of the same oldschool generation and everyone they don't like is modern. I've even seen people try to paint Kon as an "old director," when 80% of his output was post-2000.

>>146400294
I think I'll give it a rewatch with this as a lens, thanks.

>>146400697
Not him but anyone throwing Oishi under the bus for Kizu is plain retarded. The guy storyboards like no one did in 20 years. Look at any Bake scene and you'll see why everyone loved the show. Kizu despite being bad in the animation, background, CGI and Character design department had awesome cuts, joints and composition.

>>146399902
Why so much hate?

So the Keit-ai meme was viral marketing for this movie, I reckon. It worked.

>>146400909
>animation
>Character design
Nah. These were both fine, great even.

>>146400965
Trying to fit in

Should I go and see this in the cinema? A lot of UK cinemas are showing it and I've never been to the cinema by myself.

>>146400891
To be fair he storyboarded his movies just like he did his manga and his manga output is mainly pre y2k.

>>146400666

It's obviously because they're trying to bilk as much money off of people guaranteed to pay out for it rather than they need to be split up that way. I'm honestly surprised they aren't doing it with the SAO film as well.

>>146401031
Yes. Be sure to bring your own anvil though, the rentals are super expensive.

>>146383706
Was Kimi No Na Wa all over the news before its official release? What's the point comparing the reception of a movie that's already in theaters to one that officially releases to the public in 3 weeks?

>>146401031
>I've never been to the cinema by myself
I've done it before, nobody will care about you. Do it if you want.

>>146400891

I consider anyone and anything that came to prominence in the industry strictly within the past decade (2006-2016) to be "modern anime" and anything before that to be "traditional". The dividing line is clearly the Haruhi anime from 2006 which jump started the light novel otaku bait shits hostile takeover of the industries primary output that corporations like Aniplex/A-1 have since mastered and co-opted as what defines "anime" for the current generation of fans.

Since then almost nobody has come into this industry that isn't some LN/VN hack creator person whose sole insight is make shit dark and edgy or have cute girls doing cute things or a bit of both.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-20/egg-firm-anime-company-partners-with-sword-art-online-code-geass-madoka-magica-creators/.104494

To put it another way, when you have this company Egg Firm starting up to be an amalgamation of the industries "top creators" according to it's producers and investors and those top creative people are said to be Akiyuki Shinbo, Kawahara Reki and Ichiro Okouchi that's an incredibly unbelievably fucking bad sign for the future of the medium.

>>146382025
>reposting because you posted at the end of previous thread

>>146398740
The delinquent guy suddenly falling in love with her and confessing out of nowhere when the two barely interacted throughout the movie made no sense and felt shoehorned.

>>146398751
How was 5cm/s a mediocre story? It was a painfully real tragedy.

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Torrent when?

>>146401202
I'm mostly worried about what sort of people will turn up, do you have any real life experience with anime fans? Are they as bad as the stereotypes? I haven't interacted with many outside of here.

>>146401528
Oh that I don't know. Now that you are mentioning that they are probably incredibly obnoxious.

>>146400909
Reminder that Oishi is too good for Shaft

>>146383696
>Apple

intothetrash.jpg

>>146401361
Headline bullshit is always terrible. If anything, we're only going to get more and more creative works subsidized by all of the mass-produced shlock, same as contemporary Hollywood.

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>>146398751
>calling it mediocre while providing no base of valid criticism to prove so
Here's your (You) and your smug anime reaction image. Enjoy faggot.

>>146401598
Reminder that Hirao was too good for Ufo before he went to shit.
Reminder that Yamada is too good for KyoAni.
Reminder that Matsumoto is too good for Bones.
Every fucking good new director is tied up in some shitty by the numbers studio.
>>146401361
>Haruhi started the ending of anime
You mean Gundam right? Where they actually aired episode 2 before episode 1 because the toy company told them they need to sell more toys that day before profits reports right?

>>146398812
Anime-Expo.

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>>146384579

>>146401499

Till China gets its hands on it. If they don't then we'll get at most a CAM in two weeks like we did with Eva 3.33, proper BD rip would be in late november If we are lucky.

>>146401860
>Reminder that Matsumoto is too good for Bones.
Hey, it could be worse. She could still be at Toei.

gib anno ultraman series already

>>146401860
>Hirao
When did he "go to shit"? Because his last work was bad, even though his work before that was great (Yoyo to Nene)? You're jumping the gun hard.

>Yamada
I think it's pretty clear that she's doing what she wants to do. If you don't like the subject matter, fine, but I'd need a solid argument to show that someone who's done the same kind of thing her entire career is someone being ruined by external forces
>Matsumoto is too good for Bones
She doesn't fucking work for Bones. In fact, she's not tied up to a studio at all - she worked for Toei, then went freelance and did a single show for Bones, and now she's either freelance or might be getting recruited to Yuasa's new studio.

Basically, you're full of shit.

>>146402054
Why the fuck would anyone want to watch a camrip of a Shinkai movie? You can't possibly all those glorious visuals Shinkai cranks out when you're watching it through a shitty low quality camrip that was probably shot on a fucking cell phone.

>>146401860
> some shitty by the numbers studio.
I don't see how really any of those directors' output is by-the-numbers or overly affected by corporate meddling, honestly.
Hirao's done CGDCT, romance, a Ghibli-style family fantasy movie, some video game action stuff, and a Junji Ito OVA.
Matsumoto's flopped between studios and done a kids' mahou shoujo, a shounen action anime, and a very creative fantasy ONA.
Yamada's done CGDCT and school drama/romance for everything, yes, but none of them were phoned in and it's really no different from any other director having their favorite topics (e.g. Shinkai's love and distance stuff).

>>146402782
Hirao doesn't display the same talent he once did. Compare his Paranoia Agent episode to his Kaberni episode and you'll see what I mean.
He's stuck doing whatever Aniplex or Bandai throw at him to adapt. He doesn't have the same level of freedom everyone had back at Madhouse pre-buyout.
As for Yamada I can't see how a Parajanov and poetic cinema hardcore fan can be fine with directing something as hollow as Keion. She actually said that she doesn't want to direct anymore Keion as early as 2012. Hopefully she can get more creative freedom after Koe no Katachi.

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>>146381737
>true successor of Miyazaki
This idiotic meme needs to die.
Shinkai is is own men and his most successful works got nothing to do with the ghibli-esque style of storytelling nor art.

>>146403599
>Next Miyazaki means he must have the same style
No it just means the next big anime movie director.

>>146402101
Her best work to date was made at Toei.

>>146401860
>Reminder that Yamada is too good for KyoAni.
Nigger what? She would have never had any creative freedom at any other studio.

>>146403813
True. She did some great work over at Toei, but I can't imagine her getting many more Kyousougiga-like projects if she stuck with them so I'm glad she left.

>>146403502
>She actually said that she doesn't want to direct anymore Keion as early as 2012
>she said she didn't want to do more K-On as early as a year after the final installment of K-On
Is this supposed to prove something?

>>146403668
No it doesn't.
There are lots of successful anime directors out there, comparing two with completely different styles just because they are well known or considered "good" by the majority of the public just goes to say you have no knowledge on this medium.

>>146400187
>doesn't want to just create strictly cute girls doing cute things series for the rest of his career.
Bullshit excuse. There still people like Watanabe or Hosoda or Shinkai who don't do that. He's fucking Anno but motherfucker rather chose to do EVA again but this time for shekels and with 0 passion.

>>146401860
>Reminder that Hirao was too good for Ufo before he went to shit.
>Reminder that Yamada is too good for KyoAni.
>Reminder that Matsumoto is too good for Bones
Reminder that Hamasaki is willingly choosing to do shoujo anime.

>>146403502
>Hirao doesn't display the same talent he once did. Compare his Paranoia Agent episode to his Kaberni episode and you'll see what I mean.
I didn't watch Kabaneri, but I don't think something like Yoyo to Nene, as the other guy mentioned, is a sign of a director who's gone to shit. And since you mentioned pre-buyout Madhouse, I'd like you to recall that Hirao's work for them included such visionary projects as Kurozuka and Aquarian "buy our trading cards" Age.
As for Yamada, your entire argument is that if she likes some DEEP stuff, she must dislike directing stuff that isn't DEEP, even though that's been literally her entire career and she's made no apparent effort to change that.

>>146403502
>Hopefully she can get more creative freedom after Koe no Katachi.

Because Tamako Market/Love Story wasn't giving her any creative freedom whatsoever.

>>146403502
Did you just suggest that a director saying they didn't want to do more of a series, and then not doing more of that popular series ever again, meant they didn't have creative freedom?

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>>146403502
>She actually said that she doesn't want to direct anymore Keion as early as 2012.
>She literally hasn't done any Keion since 2011

>wahhh they're stifling her!!

>>146404631
Seriously she rejected doing more K-On to do an original. She can do that, she's not being held back or anything.

>>146404186
I couldn't agree more.

>>146401800

Considering the industries business strategy for 2017 appears to be milk the fujos and Touken Ranbu it's looking extremely bleak right now.

>>146401860

Are you talking about V Gundam where they aired Episode 5 as Episode 1 so that they could have the debut episode with Uso in the title mobile suit instead of some Zanscare prototype he hijacked and used for the first 4? The RX-78-2 Gundam appears in the first episode of Mobile Suit Gundam and even fights and it's quite iconic so no idea what else you could possibly be talking about.

Is this the summer of anime people making a comeback between Oda finally doing a new Film Gold, Anno's Godzilla and this?

>>146404587
Also, on the topic of Kurozuka, I'd like to point out that Hirao and Araki were good friends their whole time at Madhouse and worked together regularly, so Hirao's presence on Kabaneri is almost certainly due to that, rather than to any Aniplex pressure or whatever other conspiracy theory.

>>146402174

He's just another person that has no fucking idea what they are talking about on 4chan and is just saying shit yeah. You pretty much summed it up well enough for everyone to see so thank you. I really wish this shit sayers would fuck off from the community already, they're neither funny nor clever let alone informed on anything whatsoever.

>>146405013

Naw. Companies like Aniplex will just find someway to hijack and ruin the potential of anyone that does something good in the long run. They even seem to prefer to just tie up people that worked on hits recently on obviously bullshit projects so that they can't work on the ones people actually liked for competing companies which is what I'm legitimately worried is what is going to happen with this new Girls und Panzer project they announced today.

>>146404840
You could look at Ishidate too.

He's doing LNs, yeah, but you can tell he's not being held back from what he wants to do visually or thematically.
He even got promoted to the board of directors recently and is doing their first ever Grand Prize winner. I'm sure he'll get to do his own original anime in the future too, though he isn't secured with a good writer like Yamada is.

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>>146401361
>Since then almost nobody has come into this industry that isn't some LN/VN hack creator person whose sole insight is make shit dark and edgy or have cute girls doing cute things or a bit of both.
I mean you could apply this same logic to the mecha storm of the 80s and early 90s too. I'm sure there was someone who called Anno an otaku hack

>>146403502
>. She actually said that she doesn't want to direct anymore Keion as early as 2012. Hopefully she can get more creative freedom after Koe no Katachi.
Are you some kind of baka anon?

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>>146405285

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>>146405478
>I remember things like [insert manly-esque anime from a decade ago here] but now all I see is moeshit
SAME AS IT EVER WAS

SAME AS IT EVER WAS

SAME AS IT EVER WAS

>>146405680
>without mecha or a cutesy main character
Easy

>>146405478
>>146405680
Sheit nigga

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>>146406878
The point is the things people complain about now are the same as they did over 20 years ago

>>146401031
Nobody's gonna give a shit if you see the movie by yourself anon. Just go see it.

>>146401031
>I've never been to the cinema by myself
Someone post that screencap.

Is Shinkai our guy /a/?

>>146401528
Holy fucking shit. No one cares dude. No one.

You really think people will go there and mock you for going alone? What the hell.

>>146411678
That's Mamare Touno

>>146401031
>going to the movies by yourself

Why? Just pirate the film at the comfort of your own home.

Movies are a social thing for a reason

>>146403502
I don't think she disliked working on something like K-on!

She just refused to make more because she's done everything she wanted with the series that the time in season 2 and the movie.

(It's apparent that Ishihara has a lot of influence on season 1)

>>146405226
I think what's holding KyoAni's directors back is that they themselves aren't writers so they have to rely on someone else to write for them.

Big name directors like Miyazaki, Takahata, Shinkai, Oshii, Kon or Hosoda all can write.

KyoAni's corporate structure also doesn't allow their directors to take a year or 2 off from their regular TV episode directing and key animation duty to work on conceptualizing their film idea like most anime movie-oriented directors do.

>>146414547
>shinkai
>hosoda
>can write

>>146414547
So what you're saying is, the only way for KyoAni's directors to not be held back, is to animate films alone.

>>146413092
>Just pirate the film.
You mean... 'share'.

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>>146414750
Don't worry, KyoAni Films is currently under construction.

>>146414547
>Shinkai
>Hosoda
These two aren't good writers though and that doesn't hold them back

>>146383532
>neo /a/
He's clearly not from /a/.

>>146414964
Is it really a film studio?

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>>146381737
wait, they made a movie out of keitai?

>>146415113
I wish.

>>146414968
>>146414654
The quality of of their writing is debatable but at least they have written something commercially successful.

Yamada has never scripted anything in her life.

>>146415113
It's likely an office for the merchandise production department, the LN publisher and the shop but who knows.

>>146415215
Have you read any of her interviews with Yoshida? It sounded like Yamada did a lot of writing for their work together.

>>146381737
Are those the staffs?
there's a bunch of gaijin there

>>146415304
More like Yamama just shoots her ideas for Yoshida to put them together.

>>146415377
Also possible.

>>146397194
I think this nigga is serious.

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>>146415341
I think that's a picture taken at Anime Expo.
One of the background painters is a gaijin.

>>146382664
Great, now you've got me curious, and the stupid crop doesn't show up in image search, thanks alot

>>146415215
>Yamada has never scripted anything in her life.
Is that really a bad thing?

>>146415544
oh ok.
Don't lose hope /a/, maybe on day you will work on the next meme too.
that ikemen on the left

>>146405680
Shut up, Byrne.

>>146385399
A

>>146415544

Wow the guy on the left tho

>>146419410
Kill yourself, /tv/.

>>146381737
How? This just looks like a standard episode of the latest KyoAni anime. This doesn't look anything like a motion picture quality anime. Has Japan lost all standards when it come to anime?

I'm so glad Shinkai stole Koe no Katachi's possible audience. This gives me hope that the movie will bomb beyond hope. I can't wait for this unprofitable piece of shit to tip that hack Yamada and KyoAni's boat.

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>Monogatari hype machine BTFO by one dude
Absolutely based

>>146421643
Nigger this is a Shinkai movie, how does this not look special?

>>146424000
it's a kyoanus shitposter, just ignore it

>>146405095
I wonder if the Japanese anime community is as clueless about the industry as the West is.

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>>146381737
>female
>young
>and /a/

>>146423673
>Monogatari hype machine
?????????

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BZ1J1UXFg8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4xGqY5IDBE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KR8_igDs1Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3N0pzJ8w1c

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Japan is going through this phase where positive word-of-mouth contributes to a movie's success because people are actually excited to go and watch it instead of wasting time and energy flaming online. It happened with Mad Max, GuP and Shin Gojira, and now it's happening with Kimi no Na Wa.

Yes, people are actually enjoying something. Mindblowing, isn't it.

>>146424630
>多根
That's not funny. You don't know him.

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>>146415544
Found him.

>>146424737
>You don't know him
Oh the horror.

Would you rather I post a grumpy quote by Miyazaki about how such and such is subpar and low-brow pandering to the lowest common denominator etc?

>>146424755
His personal project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik-49KwSL-8

He must be so happy now.

Is Shinkai hating himself because his film is overshadowing his beloved Kyoani?

>>146419500
Pretty sure that's Kamiki Ryuunosuke, the MC's VA. He got his big break by voicing characters in Miyazaki and Hosoda's movies.

>>146424989
He's not a VA even if he has done some voice work, he's a very famous child actor that manged to stay popular till now.

>>146424989
http://asianwiki.com/Ryunosuke_Kamiki
>Height: 165 cm.
What a fucking manlet.

>>146425129
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%A5%9E%E6%9C%A8%E9%9A%86%E4%B9%8B%E4%BB%8B
>神木 隆之介（かみき りゅうのすけ、1993年5月19日 - ）は、日本の俳優、声優
Seems he's both.

>>146425187
Yes he has done some voice work but he's technically not a VA.

>>146425131
>Doraemon: Nobita's Dinosaur | Doraemon: Nobita no kyoryu (2006) - Pi-suke (voice)

He voiced a fucking dinosaur. Ha ha.

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>>146425264

>>146425292
Meant to quote >>146425253 instead

>>146424630
Also doesn't hurt opening in over 300 screens.

>>146425337
>300 screens.
Holy fuck. Isn't that some Ghibli level opening?

>>146424989
Didn't he voice Markl in Howl's Moving Castle?

>>146426647
That he did. And the giant baby in Spirited Away. You should see the NND comments for that one video showing the afureko where Miyazaki directs the VAs, shotafags go nuts when toddler Kamiki shows up.

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>>146426732
He was cute when he was chibi.

>>146395029
You are beyond delusional if you think the man who shills Evangelion dildos and Eva 01 horses is the successor to Miyazaki. He is his protege, but sure as hell not his successor.

>>146426987
Well then who else would be faggot?

>>146398640
This.

>>146427063
Sure as hell not Anno you retarded Evageek.

>>146427151
I still don't see you naming anyone else faggot.
Just try to name one filmmaker besides Miyazaki who's had more influence on the anime industry than Anno.
Go ahead. I'm waiting.

>>146397194
>Miyazaki happens to have the most commanding presence in the anime industry

Yeah, right. He locks himself and his studio in an ivory tower, making ridiculously expensive movies with all the time in the world and literal slaves who do his every bidding. Not to mention his movies are targeted at mainstream audiences, not Otaku. Because he can afford to.

Miyazaki and his movies are not part of the anime industry. People respect his skills and talent, but none of them will ever take his advice on how to take make anime because they don't have that luxury where they work.

>>146427451
How has Miyazaki influenced the anime industry?
How has Anno influenced the anime industry?

Go ahead, I'm waiting. These are your claims, burden of proof is one you Rebuild cocksucker.

>>146427509
You know I know you're just baiting when you're dismissing Miyazaki and Anno like that, so I'm not gonna waste my breath on you when you're just gonna throw it back and shitpost even more like the mouth breathing faggot that you are.

>>146427700
>can't back up your own delusional claims
>ironically calls him a shitposter

Kill yourself.

>>146427451
If you're going by influence on the industry alone then Ishihara is the reason the industry changed shifts back in 06. Anno is a one time hit wonder. He doesn't have the lasting and the range Miyazaki had. Hosoda is the next Myazaki.

>>146427762
>muh Haruhi is influential

You're just as retarded as he is.

>>146427793
Do tell us shitposter kun what's influential then.

>>146427871
Shinbou.

>>146427793
Haruhi and IS are as influential as nighttime Tv anime can be anon. There is only one Eva clone. Haruhi and IS clones are uncountable.

>>146427871
Tezuka, Dezaki, Tomino, Matsumoto, Takahashi, and Takahata. You can even count Toriyama if you want to include the shounen genre.

I've given names. I can give reasons, but why should I when a fucking moron like you can't?

>>146381737
is this the keitai cartoon?

>>146427934
>post talking about influential people in the post Miyazaki era.
>Posts a list of directors that their most recent show sold less than 10k for the biggest anime franchise ever.
Why are you so dense?

>>146427922
Haruhi is popular, but most certainly not the first of its kind (SoL) nor the one to make it any more popular. The same can be said of most recent shows like AoT or Madoka or even fucking SAO. All very popular, but will not leave long-lasting trends in the anime industry.

People think that there's more copycats or whatever, and that these were the shows that have influenced them. True to an extent, but the reason you're seeing more copycats is because the amount of anime made today dwarfs what it was in the 80s and 90s. Proportionally, it's all the same shit as before, you just now notice it because there's more being made and now we have the internet.

>>146428043
Influence isn't about money retard. By that explanation SEED and Geass should be considered some of the most influential anime of all time.

Influence is about technique and learning experience. The people I've listed are influential because most people in the anime industry learned directly from them. And the works they made are the ones that shaped the landscape of the anime industry. They are the soil, all the successful anime since are just plants that eventually die off. The soil will always remain.

>>146428043
>post Miyazaki era

This has got to be the most fucking retarded thing I've seen in this thread. Miyazaki never had an era because his works are not representative of the actual anime industry. Nothing would have changed in the anime industry even if Ghibli didn't exist. i.e. pay rates for animators

>>146428139
I mean GUANDAM is undoubtedly one of the most influential anime. But if you're talking about people bringing techniques then the Trigger guys, the IG guys and Ikuhara are the most influential on modern anime.

>>146428272
What about his Lupin and Conan? He wasn't always in that Ivory tower. Also not his fault that other directors aren't ambitious enough (except Takahata, Hosoda, Kon and lately Shinkai) to try and tap into the mainstream audience. Japenese will watch anime movies by the buttloads if you market it enough to them. Kimi no wa had an opening bigger than Disney in Japan. It's just that the anime people are fulfilled with pandering to otaku scum season after season.

>>146428277
The thing is even those guys learned their techniques straight from the masters. Trigger from Ishikawa, Kaneda, and Obari, and Ikuhara from Dezaki. I wouldn't really call their work influential though, but they did do their part by taking what they learned from their masters and putting their own spin on it. And that's how it should be.

Most anime has always been made by a production committee. The ones that stand out are the ones that free themselves from it and do something that truly represents what the lead director or writer or artists want to do. Unfortunately, because the amount of anime made nowadays is so monstrously huge, we neglect all these unique anime because they've got less space to shine.

Basically, trends haven't changed, just quantity.

>>146428383
>What about his Lupin and Conan?

I wouldn't really call either of those unique because of Takahata's works being the inspiration, Miyazaki did play a big part in the 60s by working on various Toei and Nippon Animation projects like Hols and the Masterpiece Theater series, but most of that was the brainchild of Takahata, while Miyazaki just served as a helping hand. It's quite ironic that all his Ghibli works are ignored when he really was one of the most important people in the anime industry.

>>146428399
Are you talking about directoral techniques or actual technology techniques. Because the IG guys I mentioned are the pioneers in digital painting in anime. It was bad before them and it is passable now. Trigger broke animation standards with FLCL. Ikuhara fucked shit up with his painting on negatives back in the film days. No one can compare in terms of influence in modern anime.

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>>146381825
>mfw they take the burgers and buy 60,000,000 cheeseburgers

>>146428488
>Takahata at Ghibli
>ignored
He is one of the most revered anime figures. His works are circle jerked to hell and back even these days. It just didn't click enough with the wider audience.

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Might as well post this while on the topic of influences and notability in animation.

>>146428499
Digipaint was inevitable due to the rising costs of cels and the appearance of computers, no single anime studio was influential in that regard because it was something that HAD to happen. IG may have been some of the first to do it, but they weren't the reason other studios did it. They were just the first to hop off the sinking boat.

>Trigger
>FLCL

FLCL was just a handful of IG and Gainax animators having fun. It's not influential in the slightest other than creating the modern Trigger style (most because the same people worked on it).

>>146428540
But Takahata is ignored by most audiences in his Ghibli works. Just look at the near box office bomb of Kaguya. Whether people like it or not, Ghibli only exists because Miyazaki and his financially successful movies was the one pushing it.

Takahata is revered in the anime industry, but Ghibli isn't the main reason why.

>>146428672
Didn't The Wind Rises perform poorly at the box office too?

>>146428553
Interesting, I always thought that Tanabe was the one that influenced Iso and not the other way around.

>>146428715
It did better than Kaguya obviously, but nowhere near the levels of Miyazaki's other movies like Ponyo or Spirited Away. Not surprising considering the subject material.

>>146428672
Princess Kaguya flopped because it wasn't normal. Also they didn't market it enough. The steins gate movie that came out in that year had more advertising than a Ghibli movie ffs.

>>146428715
It was a huge box office smash, 10 billion yen ($101 million) as reported by distributor Toho. But the problem is that the movie itself cost too much.

>>146397867
This. That movie was great. The song was very catchy too, I listened to it for a month nonstop.

>>146428672
Kaguya didn't bomb at all, it's just that the movie cost even more than The Wind Rises. Even if these movies are masterpieces that get awards and on top of all sell well, millions of people going to see them, if they cost too much they aren't going to see any profit. But to say that they bombed is totally false.

>>146429126
If a movie doesn't make back its production costs with its profits, it's considered a bomb. Kaguya barely made it past the threshold. Financial and critical success are not the same.

>that animator list
Sakuga anime confirmed

Kimi no Na wa. credits:

Storyboard : Makoto Shinkai
Character Design : Masayoshi Tanaka, Masashi Ando
Animation Directors : Masashi Ando, Ei Inoue, Kenichi Tsuchiya, Shunsuke Hirota, Kazuchika Kise
Direction: Kenji Imura

Takeshi Inamura, Hideki Hamasu, Akira Honma, Ei Inoue, Kenichi Tsuchiya, Shunsuke Hirota, Atsuko Tanaka, Megumi Kagawa, Hiroko Minowa, Takayo Nishimura, Taisuke Iwasaki, Naoki Kobayashi, Tazawa Ushio, Ai Takashi, Hisaki Furukawa, Satoru Nakamura, Mariko Matsuo, Akira Takeuchi, Matsunaga Emi, Naoyuki Tatsuwa, Ryousuke Mizuno, Naoko Kawahara, Ryosuke Tsuchiya, Yuko Matsumura, Minoru ?hashi

Yutaka Araki, Yuji Watanabe, Naoko Saitou, Sanae Yamamoto, Kazuyoshi Takeuchi

Emi Ohta, Takahiro Chiba, Shinji Suetomi, Takenawa Rina, Sachiko Fukuda, Hiroko Kasuga, Saki Konishi, Haruo Okuno, Takayuki Gotan, Saeko Tsumabi

Matsumoto Norio, Hiroyuki Okiura, Takashi Hashimoto

So barring all these sales/hype shit, i just had to ask.

Was it a good movie? Do we have rips yet so i can actually see if its as good as they say it is?

>>146429268
No rips yet, so wait another month or 2.

>>146429268
The movie is confirmed for international distribution in over 80 countries so odds are you'll be able to see it in the coming months.

>>146429352
It probably won't be showing in my shithole of a country though, so >>146429305 it is then.

>>146429342
stop

>>146429342
Fuck off.

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Just watched the movie and all I can say is Mitsuha is so fucking cute.

>>146429743
Is it a good movie though?

>>146429743
Mitsuha-Mitsuha or Taki-in-Mitsuha (aka body swap Mitsuha)

>>146429834
Why would you not fuck a guy in a chick's body? They know all your pleasure points.