Did we ever learn who was responsible for "casting"

literally spelled it out that it's all gaen and ougi

>>146327749
Ougi?

But at the end doll-chan just says that Gaen and Yozuru wanted her to stay with Araragi. I still don't get how Ougi fits into it, with all the "proper" stuff.

You're saying Ougi tipped off Tadatsuru about Araragi, and Gaen wanted him dead for trying to get doll-chan? Or something like that?

Help me out here....

wait

AND SNAIL FUCKING DIED? I THOUGHT SHE WAS JUST RECUPERATING UNTIL SHE GOT HER BAG OR SOMETHING

WHAT

>>146327749
Just Ougi. Gaen's working on something else that Ougi also sabotages.

>>146327749
Aren't Gaen and Ougi working opposite each other? Koyomi ended with Gaen implying that someone besides Araragi was fucking up her plans, and out of everyone still active Ougi has the most influence outside of those two.

>>146327864
anon, at least finish the anime before starting the discussion, you don't want to be spoiled do you

>Did we ever learn who was responsible for "casting" Teori Tadatsuru?
It was Nisio, very meta.

>>146327682
>kidnaps araragi's loved ones
>doesn't kidnap crab

accurate. araragi gives zero fucks about crab

>>146330701
Ougi only really eliminates those she sees as immediate threats for her goals while trying to assimilate into Araragi's life. If Senjougahara went missing, Araragi wouldn't just accept that. Same with Hanekawa which is why Ougi decided to wedge something between them by having Araragi use her as a source of information and advice rather than Hanekawa. Eventually Hanekawa left on her own to find Oshino so that's another threat gone. If left to her own devices she'd probably try to phase Senjougahara out last. (since there's no use trying to separate Araragi and Shinobu)

>>146332794
>Hanekawa left on her own to find Oshino
That's still Ougi's doing, though. Hanekawa does that because there's a spook on Araragi, help.

>>146330701
>kidnapping crab
Ougi would get rekt.

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>>146327682
> who was responsible for "casting" Teori Tadatsuru?
Gaen. It's a part of her big masterplan.

>>146334813

She was worrying about Gaen's plans too, so it was more than just Araragi, and she wanted to travel as well. She was wary about leaving which is why she gave that cryptic bit about leaving him to his own devices. When you look at the commentaries, she knows Ougi's game, because all of the levity and kindness she gives to anyone else, no matter how rude or brash against her, is gone. Only Gaen and Ougi illicit that response from her. Even Oshino, who all over calls her fake and rather rude shit a lot of the time, she respects.

Speaking of which, will Oshino ever just train her, and stop this instinctual revulsion thing after seeing the new Hanekawa?

>>146327682
Read Mayoi Hell. The answer is more complicated than you would think.
https://tarabletranslation.wordpress.com/

>>146336564
Jesus Christ. This is what Crabfags actually believe.

>>146327682
I want to fuck this orange

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Is this the daily spooky thread?

So now that the dust has settled I think all of us can now agree that ougi is best girl ja?

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>>146343178
That's not Math.

>>146345137
CUTE