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"Glotoun" isn't even a word. Did they mean "glutton"?
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So who's the Shepard that's gonna cleanse her edgy ass?
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Why why did Seres have the comb? It doesn't explain anything about her motivation.

And fuck Berseria.
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>>145676155
glouton
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>>145676212
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>>145676229
>Why why did Seres have the comb? It doesn't explain anything about her motivation.
Play the game. They aren't gonna reveal all their cards now.
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>>145676155
Well, you know, edgy characters want to feel different, so they change a letter or two to feel unique.
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>>145676229
Are you slow in the head or something? It's setting up a plot point. Foreshadowing. Of course they're not going to spoil the rest of the story. Did you want her to dump exposition with her dying breath?
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Who's the greatest and bestest and why is it Magilou?
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>>145676447
>Velvet just flat out ignores her during her introduction scene
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>>145676426
No, I wanted Zestiria.
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>>145676155
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqes4-5R1wA
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>>145676398
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>>145676551
So that's a "yes," then.
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>>145676264
Shepard.
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>610 mb
>720p

What is this
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>>145676732
Lots of sweet panning action and bad CGI.
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>>145676155
Are we finally done with Edgy McGee and her shitty little dream team so we can get back to Sorey and Mikleo's Excellent Adventure? This episode didn't bore me or anything, really, but I'm not seeing what any of this has to do with what's really important about this show.

Also, not-Mikaela the Praetor Exorcist is cute as hell.
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>>145676862
Sorey and Mikleo are kinda boring, tbqh
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How done with life is Velvet?
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>>145676887
Sorey blundering his way through the human world he doesn't even know never gets boring. Miss "muh brother" is a snore from the get-go.
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>>145676732
First Ufotable show?
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>>145677046
No I played Zestiria Sorey is boring. You could replace him with a talking dog for all it matters
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>>145677046
This

Thought i downloaded the wrong file or something last week. Hope this shit doesnt last long.
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>>145676551

fuck off baba
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>>145677046

t.fujoshit
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>>145676527
Reminded me of Isidro scene, Velvet really is female Guts
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>>145676862
>>145677046
I think you got your casts switched, since the Zestiria cast is a mediocre bore except for Edna's snark and part of Berseria's cast has proven to be more interesting in only two episodes than everything Zestiria could muster in 40 hours.
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OTP?
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>berseria now over


thank god, I got velvet, seres, and magilou caps. Time to drop this shitty show now.

This shit wont even sell 5k bd's at the rate pre-orders are going either.
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>>145677237
Her theme song is as wacky as her, Magilou is the perfect counter for Velvet OW THE EDGE
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>>145677286
Edgy McGee and her little troupe are so boring I only know the name of the dead one. You're clearly deranged.
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>>145677046
Sorey would have been interesting if they went with the idea of having him being feared by all the humans he came across.
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>>145677215
Neck yourself. I'm glad this inane promo stunt is over.
A waste of 2 episodes for characters and plot hooks that will never be relevant in Zestiria.
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>>145677358

fuck off baba
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>>145677410


>Zestiria so shit bandai namco producers felt the only way this shit show was worth it was to throw in two disconnected promo episodes

Maybe you're the one that should off yourself with your shit taste baba
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They no longer want to be white apparently. The ED is really good.
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>>145677006
Can anyone do this? The separation is too big.
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>>145677358
And you clearly either have no taste, or are in this just for the fujo bait, which is pretty much having no taste.

Baba's "promotion" is a clear indication Zestiria was a wrong turn in the franchise.
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Can't wait for Rokurou to die in game and be replaced by his much hotter older brother.
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>>145677336
Wacky comic relief with heaping of smug, easy-going, eccentricity, and haughtiness in the form of a cute dfc elf with a jester magician design is the best.
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>>145676155
You're saying that as if "eoten" isn't an actual word.
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>>145677365
They play with this a bit, but since he mostly interacts with his invisibuddies, Rose, antagonists and people he helps, it doesn't go anywhere. Just one animated cutscene, iirc.
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>>145677410
News flash, this whole thing is a promo stunt. It's the only reason nips do adaptations these days.
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>>145677046
Sorey is probably the most boring Tales MC. Even Ludger was 100 mores times interesting, and he doesn't even talk.
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>>145677789
It's not just a "stunt" when you have a 2 cour anime.
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>>145677525
Well, suckle on your commercial break all you want, the REAL show is back next episode, so you've got a week before you and your shit taste depart these threads forever, or you commit suicide. Either way, real taste wins.
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>>145677697
Now this is a decent mage.

Rita was nice, but too detached from everyone except Estelle and Pascal was too much of a cloudcuckoolander to be decent or taken seriously.
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>>145677410
>inane promo
It's a promo for Zestiria too, not that it's gonna sell more copies of Zesty, kek
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Is this garbage over? I need more Zest in my life.
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>>145676229
Didn't Lailah have a comb thing? Is that theory that Seres is Lailah still hold?

Also this episode was a right mess.
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>>145677732
But from what I understand it was supposed to occur through out the game, Sorey helping others and them being scared of him, and Sorey needing to grit his teeth and bear it despite being upset. Though I guess once the politics angle was dropped so to were the consequences of it.
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>eager to get back to Zesty
Man it's going to be fun to watch the trainwreck, both here and on 2ch, when they slowly just follow the plot of the game

KAMUI ROSE
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>>145677511
If I wasm't afraid of showing my fingerprints to entire world I would post myself doing this. It's pretty doable.
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What went wrong, lads?
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>>145677697
She will be the traitor.
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Why hadn't Rokurou and Magilou join soober? Ceres wouldn't have to die then.
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>>145677867
>real taste wins.
Considering the utter crap Zestiria was, even if Berseria ends up being crap, it still doesn't make it decent. It was so bad the only thing you need is the opening to trigger the ptsd of every eleven that isn't a fujoshi.

Zestiria exists in it's sorry state because one man wanted pussy so bad he sacrificed the good faith that years of hard work earned him.
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>>145677935
Wrong eyes color.
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Lat me predict how plot will flow now. Velvet needs to gather the remaining elemental powers by eating other malaks and turning them into rings. She will eat Mikleo's mother for water, Eizen for earth and Laphicet for air.
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>you get Rokurou and Magilou in your party at the beginning of the game

Fuck yeah.
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>>145677957
The only time it happened really was with that leader of the mercenaries and he got over it near the end of the game.
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>>145677867
>Zestiria
>real taste
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>>145678023
Eizen will be the traitor.
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>>145678284

Laphicet is light not air
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>>145678284
Considering Eizen is still "alive" in Zestiria I doubt anything of the sort will happend to him and Laphicet.

But considering the boner Tales games have for visiting shrines, it wouldn't surprise me.
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>>145678346
N-Not Eizen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09s7wFqnOns
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>>145678324
I'm surprised Magilou shows up so early.
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>>145677920

>2 weeks ago=grumble grumble grumble something Baba bomb game when's Velvet
>This week=grumble grumble grumble something Baba when we back to Zestiria
>Next week=grumble grumble grumble something Baba THEY STOPPED SHOWING US VELVET FOR THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!1111

Shitposting is less interesting when it's entirely predictable and obvious
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>>145677046
How can anyone be this wrong?
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>>145676155
Paizuri doujinshis when?
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>>145677336
How is Velvet edgy?

I wish you faggots would stop calling her that.
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>>145678331
You can also choose to have this happen on the bridge to Marlind well, but it seems as though the plot line was dropped when Rose was added to the party in favor of "muh foils".
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>>145678018
Eclipse'd.
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>>145677860
It helped that Ludger was a snappy dresser.
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>>145678023
I'll cry and be mad if that's true.
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>>145677867
What are you trying to prove by shitposting like this?
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>>145678094
>>145678339
>butthurt Berseriafags mad their shit game wasn't good enough for a standalone series

Stay salty, casuals, you're just background radiation. Zesteria is the real deal and nothing Berseria is matters.
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>no more velvet
>back to faggot nr1 and faggot nr2's faggy fag adventures

Just kill me now
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>>145678023
The traitor is the shota. He's using that appearance and the name similar to Velvet's brother to fool her.
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>>145677697
Too bad the clown girl isnt in the main show

Would love to see more of her
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Will they go for maximum heterolust from the guy's side?
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>Velvet and crew steal the show in just two episodes
Zestiriafags BTFO
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>>145678695


>real deal
>already in the 1k range for stalker rankings

ufo won't even get a profit off of the anime.
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>>145678695
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>>145678695
Too obvious.
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>>145678695
>shit game wasn't good enough for a standalone series
>why didn't they do a series spoiling the plot of a game that comes out next week?

Try being less of a retard if you want bait to work.
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>>145676732
Daisuki, Gundam IBO had simillar file sizes.

It's funny because even though they charge nothing for their HD streams they still have better bitrate than CR or Funi.
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>dis CG dragon
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>>145678530
>heterosexual Tales doujins
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>>145678800
Actually this episode was still rated lower than the average Zestiria episode, and they don't even have White Light to use as an excuse.
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>>145677697
>tfw no more of her next week
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>>145679020
Actually, we will get tons of her in just a few days, just not in the anime.
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>>145678972
Only goes to show nips have no taste, since better characters were on display.

Magilou had maybe not even 5 minutes of screen time and was already better than the whole Zesti cast put together.
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>>145679071
By "we" you mean Japs?
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>>145678957
There are lots of them .
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>>145679123
I think he means illustrations and whatnot, not just the game.
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>>145678941

Count your blessing that it wasn't modeled by silver link
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>>145679104
Because it's an obvious advertisement that's jarring Because it messes with the flow of the story.
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>>145679183
It's not the model, it's how terribly out of place the animation looks.
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>>145679233
But we got flow at the end of the episode.
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Who's voicing Magilou? I love her voice.
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>>145679127
Last I checked Zestiria unironically only has like 8, and they're almost all Edna
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>>145679127
There tend to be a lot more BL for the Tales series overall, and once the game is 2 years old the het doujin will pretty much stops entirely.
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>>145679233
As much as I loved these episodes, I must agree with that.

It's a shame they didn't do an ova with the two episodes and released alongside Zesti instead.
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>>145679337
Satomi Sato
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>>145678554
>Her raison d'être is revenge, the edgiest of raisons.
>Dresses promiscuously and in blacks and reds.
>Considered a monster/less than human by the general populous.
>Her trump card is a demonic arm that she uses to "devour" her enemies which is kept wrapped in bandages like a chuunibyou's wet dream
>Her method of fighting is savage and "beast-like".
>Emotionally distant.
>Doesn't care about morality.
These are some of the examples of why she's edgy.
Velvet is fucking edgy and if only compared to other Tales MCs then it's even more glaring, Yuri Lowell killed a bunch of shitty people and he's still less edgy than her.
But Anon, edgy isn't good or bad, especially when executed with restraint, people here have just made it a buzzword and use it negatively and so much it doesn't even mean shit anymore.
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>>145679330
No we didn't it was still a jarring change back.
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>>145679448
Considering the string of boring protagonists we had since Yuri, I'd consider the edginess a good thing here.

And so far she's shown to be a balanced sort of edgy instead of the 100%SCREAMING variety (outside of the Eclipse scenes, understandably) or the i-hate-the-world-everyone-is-trash type.

Her smugness and not being blind while having a sense that what she's doing is villanous instead of righteous is also a good step forward.
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>>145679683
That's my point.
Just because it's edgy doesn't mean it's bad.
I'm digging the hell out of Velvet.
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>>145679443
>Tanaka Ritsu
>Chitanda Eru
That explains a lot
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Repost the timeline.
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>>145678554
Consider that edgy has a negative connotation because the majority of these kind of characters had the edge knob dialed to 11, which made them silly and hard to take seriously due to over-the-top-ness.

As with almost all character traits, when developed with a measure of care and balance it's not bad at all. Things like her not giving a crap attitude instead of putting on a slasher smile, her smugness with Rokurou and her capacity to think under pressure are good signs.

>>145679860
>I'm digging the hell out of Velvet.
Same here.
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>>145679448
>Doesn't care about morality
Oh, she is very moralistic. She almost quoted motherfucking Ivan Karamazov.
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>>145678652
And a good cook.
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Wake me up when Lailah comes back. I'm literally only watching this for her.
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>>145679457
No, there was definitely a solid minute of flow at the end
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>>145679448
>>Emotionally distant.
Wrong character.
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I miss them already.
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>>145677860
>Sorey is probably the most boring Tales MC
Come on, he's better than Jude, at least.
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>>145680598
I'm not talking about the band anon.
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>>145680662
Not really.
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>>145680662
Nah.
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>>145679233

Look it's not like this industry gives a shit about pretense anymore. It's long since given out to blatant commercialism which trumps things like proper story flow and coherency.
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>>145680662
Jude's main problem is that with two protagonists in a rushed game they didn't have the time to do anything more with him and unborify him.

Sorey isn't much better, but to his credit he at least gets a few cool scenes.
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>ITT: angry hets and lolicons mad that the world cares more about Sorey and Mikleo than it does about their one-dimensional waifus and pedobait

You bitches need a Shepherd.
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>>145680662
Come to think of it, the protagonists have been getting pretty boring

>Asbel
>Jude
>Ludger
>Sorey

all these guys were super boring to me
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>>145677154
Doesn't even need to talk.
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>>145680757
And that means that everyone should eat shit? There are other ways to advertise a show without being so blatant which has been Bamco's problem as of late.
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>>145679448
>Doesn't care about morality.

Well, Laphicet has to serve a point, no? He won't mellow her out to the point of not wanting revenge, but well played and he prevents her from becoming a one dimensional character.
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>>145680662
Not even close. If you said Assbel I would have agreed, though.
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>>145680826
>Jude's main problem is that with two protagonists in a rushed game they didn't have the time to do anything more with him and unborify him.
Sorey actually has the same problem coupled with the producer forcing in his waifu last minute.
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>>145680841
>ITT: angry hets and lolicons mad that the world cares more about one-dimensional fujo bait than it does about their one-dimensional waifus and pedobait

At least be fair about it. Also
>what are Lailhah and Edna?
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>>145681004
Can you imagine what it's like to want to tap that pussy so bad that you flush years of hard work and respect earned down the toilet?
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>>145680635
Only three characters shown so far and it's still 100x better than Zestiria's cast.
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>>145680662

no. At least Jude just wanted to get his dick wet. Sorey is literally a blank template JRPG protagonist except no one filled in the template.
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>>145681020
>what are Lailhah and Edna?

One is a tool, and the other is a camp follower.
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>>145681112
Says the overlord of shit taste in what a character actually is.
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>>145680841

>this is what delusional fujoshits truly believe

They don't even care about zestiria. Both Love Live and Servamp have the fujoshits complete attention this season.
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>>145680892
>mfw only in the PS3 version can you control him outside of battle
Also, he does "talk" during the cutscenes in his side quest with that other doggo
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>>145680826
The problem I have with Jude is his entire personality in the first game is wanting to fuck Milla, and when he thinks she's dead he turns in to the most colossal fucking faggot.

Sorey's personality is essentially wanting to fuck ruins, but at least he's not a little bitch about it.
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>>145681116
Except Sorey was actually introduced with a goal, and interests. The real problem was that he was never allowed to be explored.
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>>145681213
>fuck ruins
What are you implying about Mikleo's ass?

>>145681163
40 hours of Zestiria isn't enough to make the cast look better than 40 minutes of Berseria promos.
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We can all agree that Sorey is at least better than this guy.
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>>145679278
That's the point. The dragon is supposed to look out of place, as if it didn't belong to this world. Ufotable loves doing that. They did it constantly with Berserker for example and while not made by them FMA managed a similar effect with Envy's monstrous form.
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>>145681308
And so was Jude. Wasn't he a medical student (at 15 of all things)?

Then Milla came along and all that went out the window.

Even when the characters interest are aligned with the plot, like in Sorey's case, they don't capitalize on it.

>>145681366
I can at least remember Sorey, I'll give you that.
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>>145681213
>Sorey's personality is essentially wanting to fuck ruins
I can respect that and even understand it, I mean, who doesn't want to plunder the deepest recesses of a ruin, to go to its deepest depths and conquer it and make it yours for the entire time you are firmly planted inside, in this manner, isn't dungeon diving like making love to a woman?
>tfw no MC who's only desire is to go to the core of every ruin, dungeon and perilous cave and ejaculate inside.
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>>145676229
Didn't you hear the blond guy? She called her "se alisa"
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Everyone seems to forget Reid when talking about boring MCs probably because he is that forgettable.
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>>145681163
Maybe not having to go though empty fields to get to empty ruins again and again while having to deal with a half baked combat system will allow them to improve the characters, but even only taking into account 5 episodes of Zesti vs 2 of Berseria, Berseria did a much better job.
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>>145681547
>dungeon diving like making love to a woman?

Tell me you wasted this chance of purpose.
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>>145680826
>Sorey isn't much better, but to his credit he at least gets a few cool scenes.
So does Jude.
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Original story
Do not steal
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>>145681594
Who?
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>>145680841
It's funny how you bring Mikleo into this when people are shitting on Sorey. Fujoslugs really do only care about this pairing and nothing else.
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>>145681568
Sounded more like Sherries.
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>>145681449
>Wasn't he a medical student (at 15 of all things)?
And a doctor at 16, in charge of his own research. It's ridiculous. I don't know why they made him so young.
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>unironic Zestiriafags vs Berserafags
Didn't expect it this early.

What did nips rate today's episode? Haven't watched this since #3.
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>>145680635
Left and right are going to fuck, right?
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>>145681449
Yes but with Jude that shit was always planned as the premise of the story, but with Sorey his goals are the reason why he travels, his premise is that he's attempting to achieve his goals and he doesn't forget about that or his interests.

The problem however was that two things, Sorey was never allowed to truly explore his goal and some of his characterization got lost because of Baba wanting him to be Rose's foil.
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Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny with the object of making men happy in the end, giving them peace and rest at last, but that it was essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creature - that baby beating its breast with its fist, for instance - and to found that edifice on its unavenged tears, would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me, and tell the truth.
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>>145681659
Looked like Skyrim to me.
>MC is about to get executed
>cue the dragon
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>>145681738
You didn't watch Doogie Howser M.D.?
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>>145681783
If I was in Artorius' position and thought that it would work, most likely.

But I don't think the greater good invalidates Velvet's reasons.
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>>145681783
If even a single innocent life needs to be sacrificed , I wouldn't do it
The justice I believe in with all of my heart and soul requires no innocent sacrifices
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>>145682007
Lloyd please, go back to Symphonia.
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>>145681708
Can't have one without the other. Sorey really is one-dimensional without Mikleo to play off of. They're a package deal, unlike other duos who are developed enough to be able to stand on their own without their partner.
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>>145681547
>in this manner, isn't dungeon diving like making love to a woman?
If you mean exploring into places on the off-chance it'll yield treasure but typically only unleashes demons, spectres, and abcess horrors into the world best forgotten? Absolutely.

Nothing hetero is of value.
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>>145681895
At least Doogie Howser was a genius. They didn't even explain how Jude managed to be so successful. The best thing people had to say about him at the medical school was that he's a nice guy. Maybe he got the gig at Helioborg by sucking Balan's dick.
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>>145681312
>40 hours of Zestiria isn't enough to make the cast look better than 40 minutes of Berseria promos.
So it is purely aesthetics with you? Typical butthurt hetfag still angry that Zestiria ended up with a homo finale. Besiria is the real pandering here, for once the fujos are in the right and its you sad sacks that are the cancer.
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>>145681783


They'd get along
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>>145682193
That's worse.
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>>145681783
And then after that rant she eats Seres
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which tales protagonists could Velvet win a fight against?
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>>145681742
51% if I'm not mistaken. Check the previous thread.
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>>145680877

PS2 era (+ Vesperia) was arguably the only one when they took risks with MCs.
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>>145681783
If there isn't any other options, then yes. Also this >>145681969
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>>145682589
Tales of manlets.
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>>145682583
Mercy kill. By that time Seres already had an icicle through each breast.
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>>145682583
BITCH GOT STABBED WITH TWO GIANT ICICLES. SHE WAS DYING ANYWAYS.
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>>145678346
Nah, it's Laphicet, the shota will betray Velvet to save her.
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>>145682751
>>145682770
She pierced herself with her own magic to force Velvet to eat her.
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>>145682369
>So it is purely aesthetics with you?
What?
>pandering
You do realize that these are being used to promote a game that comes out next week right?

If you want to bait, start by being less of a retard.
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>>145682899
She uses fire magic, those were ice spikes made by the dragon.
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>>145682899
She's been described multiple times as a fire user.
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>>145681594
My nigga Reid is a baller. Fuck off with your shit
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>>145677935
Lailah never had a comb.
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>>145681708
That's normal. Sorey and Mikleo are only one character, if you remove one of them, the other one becomes nothing.
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>>145682899
>She pierced herself with her own magic to force Velvet to eat her.
I think you got confused because there was a mistranslation of Velvet's line.

"You're using your Arte" should be "It's using Arte?"

Velvet was talking about the dragon.
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tits.
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>>145683572
Seres has the best tits.
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>>145682589
Jesus Christ I had no idea Luger was that short.
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>>145683697
Seres is DEAD.
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>>145683406
I guess that makes sense, but still she already decided to get herself killed and eaten before the spikes even showed up.
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>>145682384
Not if it's by deliberate design. It would have been tragic in a series like GetBackers if Ban and Ginji hadn't been as well-developed as they were as individuals. Sorey and Mikleo were never designed to function well separately, which makes them a different case entirely. It does a disservice to make a comparison between two clearly different philosophies of design.
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>>145683572
why does she look like a hooker here?
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>>145683136
That's mostly for Mikleo though, as he is a complete satelite character whose arc mainly hinges on his feelings and significance to Sorey.

Without Sorey, Mikleo is nothing as he has no relevance besides being the catalyst of the Calamity (without his will, therefore no agency comes from that anyway).

However, without Mikleo, Sorey can more or less still retain the same arc, just without the significance of his dream being from a interpersonal relationship.
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>>145683772
>but still she already decided to get herself killed and eaten before the spikes even showed up.
Maybe but that has nothing to do with Velvet. Velvet was clearly surprised when Seres told her eat her, so it's not like she knew beforehand.
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http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3304551

Could this fix her edginess?
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>>145683572
Made for paizuri
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>>145684031
She's a shotacon. That will most likely disgust her and make her edgier.
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>>145683887
No it was for the both of them, hence why Sorey seems to have less personality and no drive when not with Mikleo.
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>>145682589
Being forced to do lesbo stuff that she clearly isn't into? How the hell would that help at all?
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>>145683572
It would be so incredibly satisfying in using her tits for paizuri while she is making me hard with these hateful eyes.
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>>145683765
I refuse to believe that. I will not even watch the latest episode to not acknowledge it.

What the fuck is the point of designing such a bonerific character to end it like that? No point.
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>>145683887
It's pretty apparent when they separate in Ladylake. Sorey goes around doing stuff with Lailah and Alisha and Meebo is stalking him from a distance.
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>>145684388
Now she lives inside Velvet.
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>>145684313
>your body is more honest than your words are
>look at your cute reactions when I press against your womb

Perfect rape cahracter
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>>145680662
The Phantasia MC is pretty boring himself.
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>>145684437
So the exorcist dude's sword was a dead seraph too?
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>>145684397
Yeah but Sorey also makes it clear that he's not really happy.
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>>145684176
That cute blonde excorcist this ep looked like a suitable shota.

Why cant she solve her problems with snusnu?
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>>145683572
I do not know why but that shot is so sexual.
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>>145684223
>>145684397

I agree that Mikleo brings the most out of Sorey's personality, that they have the best shared chemistry and become boring otherwise.

I'm just speaking hypothetically, that you could take Mikleo completely out of the story and Sorey's narrative would only lose it's significance (because there is no human-seraph bond that encourages his dream) but it wouldn't lose it's direction.

The same can't be said for Mikleo. His character mainly serves for Sorey and without Sorey, there is no need for Mikleo to exist as he is.
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>Velvet episodes
Damn, she is so much better than the retard faglord
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>>145683765
>>145684388
>>145684437
She's a ring actually
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>>145683572
>>145684695

>tfw you realize that this attire is incredibly lewd and her nipples are only a few cm away from showing.
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>>145684716
Muppet is good!
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>>145684716
Only thing that was keeping me watching.
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>>145684700
>I'm just speaking hypothetically, that you could take Mikleo completely out of the story and Sorey's narrative would only lose it's significance (because there is no human-seraph bond that encourages his dream) but it wouldn't lose it's direction.
Well speaking hypothetically Sorey's interests also lose their significance as wellong, and Sorey becomes a character that exists purely for his duty. He functions as half a character.

With either character you'd have to tweak the story and characterization significantly fit either of them in the story without the other.
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>>145685083
True. I was just arguing that opposed to Sorey, Mikleo just outright can't exist without Sorey there. He's fodder without him.
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>>145685249
He could but just like Sorey he'd need serious tweaking for that to be possible.
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>>145681783
>that pic
Looks like we might get a Tales game with a good story again.
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>>145684313
>not throatfucking her while she looks like she's about to kill you
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>>145681198
>Love Live
>fujoshits
I know it has a female fanbase but female otaku =/= fujoshi
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>>145680841
But Bear is 500% better?
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>>145681738
Bamco wanted its own Hopurai.
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>>145677883
I liked Pascal the most of Graces cast, actually. And Magilou managed to be as good as her in just several minutes.
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>>145685882
What the fuck is this shit? Why are they still using PS3 era graphics. I wanted a new gen Tales game not this eyesore.
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TFW u try to introduce urself to a fellow escapee but they just ignore you
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>>145685977
Because they're still releasing it on PS3.

I just want them to go back to cel-shading.
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>>145686025
Magilou took all the smug budget for this episode and left Velvet with nothing.
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>>145685249
If you take away Mikleo Sorey keeps his significance in the story but he loses his ability to make independent decisions. He now becomes a character who does everything because he was told to. His reasoning for becoming Shepherd becomes because he was raised to be one not because he was using it as a means to achieve his own ends.

Sorey without Mikleo isn't a character, the opposite though isn't exactly true for Miikleo. Mikleo has personality, however his drive and goals revolve around Sorey. Take away Sorey and you've got a Mikleo or goals with no drive, but still a personality.

It should also be noted that Sorey is still the MC, he's still the character whose point of view the game follows, so of course it doesn't go off on a tangent and follow Mikleo when he separates from Sorey. Alternatively even though Mikleo wasn't in the party his presence was still there.
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>>145686025
But she's a human, she had no reason to be on that island.
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>>145686167
Why is she showing her armpits so casually, that's obscene
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>>145684525
until he found out he actually killed a hero from another planet and regretting his actions during entire game for years to come

Dhaos did nothing wrong
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>>145686155
>loses his ability to make independent decisions

How?
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>>145686209
That's what she was in the prison for, obscene behavior.
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>>145686167
Not with those elf ears, no.
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velvet is way more interesting than the zesty cast.
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>>145686025
To think I'll actually be able to hear both her and Velvet's japanese VA because Bamco is going to release with dual audio. Good stuff.
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>>145686266
Cross translation never.
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>>145685953
So did I, in a kind of "best thing in a bad situation".
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>>145686419
Fuck, they are?

It's about time, i allready missed out on Miyuki Sawashiro voicing Milla.
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>>145686360
According to the Berseria website she is totally 100% human.
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>>145686339
Sorey was literally raised to be Shepherd remember? If you get rid of the significance of his relationship with Mikleo (a seraph) you also rid Sorey of his personal investment in becoming the Shepherd and following his duties. His actions are now taken because that's what he was raised to do. He sacrifices himself because that's what he was raised for.
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>>145686076
>I just want them to go back to cel-shading
This.
Tales looks fucking terrible now, Jesus Christ, couple that with the mocap shit and I can't even put to words how off putting it is
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Why did Magilou neen a ship if she can fly?
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>>145681750

middle and left
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>>145676155
Wait the Berseria MC appeared in Zestiria anime?
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>>145686630
>Berseria website
Haven't thought of that. I see, but why triangle ears then?
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>>145686643
Except Jiji still ultimately left the choice of becoming the Shepherd or not up to Sorey, it's not like the village was screaming in his ear to become the Shepherd or anything.
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>>145683572
i want to self insert my penis in her boobs.
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>>145686824
Would it much of a choice though? It Doesn't change the fact that Sorey's across would be those of a person whose just doing things because he was raised to do them not because he himself has any real desire for it.
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do you faggots even watch the skits? velvet is not edgy.
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>>145678695

>>butthurt Berseriafags mad their shit game wasn't good enough for a standalone series
>Zestiria literally shares the same show with it

you didn't really think this through did you?
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>>145683572
Tits.
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>>145684176

you guys are going to be so disappointed.
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>>145681738
They are into /ss/. I wholly welcome that mindset.
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>>145684031
>gelbooru

Fuck off, shill.
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>>145686765
Well she's leads some mysterious group called the Menagerie that they haven't gone into at all that might explain it.

Or in her obsession with being magical, mutilated her ears for whatever reason.
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>>145687314
danbooru is shit, mate.
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Yuri and ss will save Tales from the fujos, too bad loli had to be sacrificed.
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>>145685902
I funny think that any character can ever reach Hope's level.
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Velvet is such a silly character, even Donte and Shadow the Hedgehog would feel embarrassed by looking at her
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>>145686737
Maybe she can't fly long distances with her carpet?
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>>145687495
>being this much of a newfag.
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>>145687533
*don't
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>Velvet is platinum mad that her little brother was killed and just can't accept the fact that you can save many lives at the cost of just one, she then sets on an adventure to stop Artorius and show him that killing innocent people is wrong no matter the reason

She's slathering niggas left and right, is this bitch dumb or something?
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berseria looks interesting, bamco really needs to get better character designers.
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>>145687541
Not really.
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>>145687900

shes killing people that are trying to kill her.
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>>145687900
>show him that killing innocent people is wrong no matter the reason

Nah, she just wants to murder him.
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>Seres: I'll won't live by someone else's ideals anymore, I'll follow my own path!... by sticking to this crazy girl's ideals instead and following her around

Man, the women in this game are completely insane
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>>145687900

If you haven't noticed, she's a bit mad and a lot angry.

Also, she's a woman.
>expecting the woman to be reasonable as opposed to the emotional basket case she is showing herself to be
>2016
I seriously hope you aren't a feminist.
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>>145688154
Velvet's ideals just happen to coincide with Sere's ones. She outright said so.
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>>145688154
They're not insane but you're a reatard. She said she had her own grudge against Artorius. That's why she was helping Velvet.
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>>145687900
>>Velvet is platinum mad that her little brother was killed and just can't accept the fact that you can save many lives at the cost of just one
Its easy when that 1 life is a complete stranger, anyone that isn't a sociopath would falter if they had to murder their loving kin. I'd be platinum mad too if some old fuck murdered my little brother, greater good be damned.
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>>145681208
He doesn't
It's just raven and rita roleplaying the hell out of the animals
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>>145688154
She spent at least three years as Artorius' slave, it's not surprising she might want to kill him.
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Is Velvet a virgin?
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>short episodes
>long ED
>nonsense comic relief post creds
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>>145688338
Shit, really? I haven't played the game in a long ass time
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>>145688400
Not if I had anything to say about it
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>>145686266
Nope, he just went back to fucking Mint.
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>>145688400
probably but why are you asking
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>>145681366
fuck you. Lloyd was awesome.
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Some nerd from /v/ had a theory about how Seres and Artorius were Velvet's mother and father and how Artorius did the ritual to let the brother reincarnate into a seraph and save him from some incurable decease.
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>>145686296
Is that a come and get it pose or a I am gonna crush your balls pose?
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>>145688464
I don't blame him.
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>>145686296
That's thug, not smug.
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I don't care anymore about the Zesty anime, give me more of this.
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>>145688507
That's stupid.
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>>145688507
that's some retarded bullshit right there
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>>145688507
Right and he just neglects to tell this to Velvet and instead throws her into a well.
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>>145688517
Are pink anons still mad?
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Honest question here, did you guys really liked this episode? I just can't sympathize with Velvet or care about her reasons at all. The whole plot seems a bit dull even for the average Tales game. I'll probably play this game for Magilou, though.
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>>145688572
Buy the game.
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>>145688581
>>145688583
>>145688507
Seems like normal JRPG logic.
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4 more days
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>>145681366
I'm sorry for your shit taste. Was your coffee too hot?
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>>145688769
3.
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>>145688631
>Honest question here, did you guys really liked this episode?
Yeah, my favorite episode so far.

>I just can't sympathize with Velvet or care about her reasons at all.
I can relate to her just fine. I'd want to destroy the faggot who killed my little brother too.

>The whole plot seems a bit dull even for the average Tales game.
It's a simple concept, but it's already a lot more interesting that Zestiria's "plot".
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>>145688400
Probably, since she was imprisoned at, like, 16 and spent the last three years away from people in a pit, fighting for her life and devouring beasts.
I have no idea how nobody remarks anything, especially Rokurou, I bet she'd be fouler than a warthog by the time she made her escape.
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>>145687900
Velvet doesn't care about saving the many, she's just mad as hell so Artorius is going to get his.
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PURE SEX
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>>145687900
Shut up, Kerry.
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Velvet is amazing
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>>145689039

She's only good for sex and nothing else
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>>145689006
>Vagina bones
>Armpits
>Strange way of talking
>Flat

Perfection, how can femguts and that other bitch no one really cares about compete?
>>
How are they going to finish the story in 6 episodes?
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Exorcist Flynn did nothing wrong
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>>145689102
Take that back you scum
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>>145688977
Washi
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>>145689276
I'd take her from the back if you catch my meaning.
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Why does Magilou have pointy ears?
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>>145689315
elf
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>>145689006
>no doujins and only lackluster porn
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>>145688918
I imagine the other prisoners don't smell like rose gardens either.

Also 2D girls don't smell.

Otherwise Velvet would be caked in blood, sweat, urine, and fecal matter from spending three years in a dark dank pit with monsters thrown at her daily.
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>>145689315

So you can lick them and make her super aroused
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>>145689302
I don't understand.
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>>145689198
2 cours.
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>>145687495
>Yuri will save Tales from the fujos
Yuri is fujobait though.
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>Zestiria and this nonsensical edgy shit get an anime while Vesperia only got one OVA
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>>145689385
I'll admit I have a smell fetish but three years of urine, sweat and feces is a bit too extreme even for me.
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>>145689553
>implying vesperia wasn't edgy
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>>145689619

But it had best boy
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>>145689553
>nonsensical
Why do you use words you don't know?
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>>145677292
Post the foursome picture
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>>145689422
Does she have a belt covering her pussy too?
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/a/, show me the sexiest Velvet pics!

The best Velvet costumes!

Post some Velvet!
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>>145689862
Have a QUALITY Velvet.
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>>145689862
Made for thighsex
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>>145676447
She wast an annoying character.

I have no problem with her personality but the way she was introduced and the way she reacted to the envoirement and situation was just dumb
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>>145689862
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>>145690004
>>
This was great. Wasn't sure about it because of Zestiria but now I'm getting hyped.

Please be a good game. ;-;
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>>145690004
So that's what Velvet looks like as a DFC.
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>>145689862

Velvet's armpit.

It's almost more armpit than my tongue can cover on one lick.
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>>145689933
What's QUALITY about that?
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>>145681854
But Berserk is just a ripoff of Skyrim anyways, everyone knows that.
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>>145690205
I don't like Chloe but I don't remember enough of Legendia to recall why I feel that way.
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>>145689862

for you
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The game can't compete with this
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>>145690205
>Anise

You fucking scum
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Can't we just drop Zestiria and have this instead?
This is simply a 10 out of 10
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>>145690196
Side boobs.
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>>145681750
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>>145680462
I want to sheathe my holy sword in Lailah's scabbard.
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>>145690205
I agree with you for Farah but your taste is shit for everything else.
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>>145690645
>MFMF

Nigga that's some gay shit.
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>>145690338
Pirate Velvet is not bad. But the Idol Velvet is the best.
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>>145690611
Maybe in a few years.
Why would you spoil the entire plot of something that's just about to be released? This was just to hype up the nips for the release, kinda like the OVA of Zesty
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>>145690338

muh dick
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>>145690611
TTGL reference? Ufotable confirmed for bros.
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>>145690714
it's actually FMFM but they're so close that the guys are practically cuddling.
Anyway MFFM is the only true way
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>>145690645
This is too good
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>>145690338

>Those cameo costumes

I am legit surprised there's no Cless/Stahn/Leon/Yuri/Mint this time.
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>>145689553
>Vesperia only got one OVA

Vesperia: The First Strike was a movie, brah.
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>>145688507
Seres is almost certainly her mother but I doubt Artorius is her father. I really hope they wouldnt go back to the your father is the villain thing after already doing it a few times
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>>145691029
>no Cless/Stahn

There's not a single character good enough to wear those costumes in the game, unfortunately
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You're killing me Bamco
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>>145690903
Any combination with more than one M is too gay for me. Only one person is in between two dick touching.
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Is it normal for Japanese girls to call their fathers "onii-san".
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>>145691247
It's not gay is balls are not touching.
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>>145690645
Why is this party so right for group sex?
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I demand more Magilou
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>>145691029
One of those is gonna be in the cameo battle.
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>>145690338
Why is that thing there?
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>>145691535
It's a costume.
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>>145690645
But I thought Velvet only fuck shota?
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>>145691535

Mieu
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>>145691613
We don't know for sure yet but so far the evidence strongly suggests that she likes little boys and is a brocon.
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>>145689933
Tits.
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>>145691507
Too flat. Please direct your fanservice here:
>>>/trash/
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>>145689862
Improved Velvet.
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That OST and OP were pretty good.

Feels so fucking bad we have to go back to Zestiria after this. I'd love to watch the rest right now.
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Princess is best girl!
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>>145692009
End yourself
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>>145691737
If she likes little boys then its really because she's a brocon to begin with and watching her little brother get murdered triggered some Freudian shit in her. Kinda like how not having a mother growing up might trigger an obsession with milfs and mature women that borders on the sexual due to misplaced mommy issues.
Tbqh, I expect she'll just latch on to him as a surrogate little brother, love completely platonic, but we all know people will distort that into romantic feelings and porn because shipping and because their dicks will it.
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>>145692179
Tits.
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>>145692194
posterior princess
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>>145692314
ASSprincess.

sauce?
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>>145688178
That's wrong though, no one will accept sacrificing their loved ones to "save many people" that's just a fallacy anyways, because you can't weigh innocent lives simply by numbers.
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What would happen if Velvet gave malak a handjob?
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>>145692403
Sure you can. It's just a dark and edgy thing to do.
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>>145692364
>ASSprincess.
>Not PrinceASS
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>>145692738
Don't think too hard about it
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>>145692935
>please give me views I'm totally not him
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>>145692935
Don't link shit like this. Why did you even click it?
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>>145692935
It's easy money for no work.
https://youtu.be/c5Gde-5FRWA
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Berseria game going to have a crazy ass beginning.

Some Tales games start off too slow but here you get Rokurou and Magilou quick and fight a dragon.
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>>145693100
Yeah. A 300 ton dragon that does 50-90 damage and has 800 HP! Better hope he doesn't trip over a mid game desert spine radish and die.
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>>145692835
No-asshime.
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>>145676155
So Artorious was creating pure Seraphs and cleansing the world of malice that way

however some Seraphs turn into Dragons/monsters so the partially fallen humans has to devour them in order to grow stronger and make sure they are not over run.

Seres has the comb because Velvets little brother is alive as a Seraph and is probably working/being abused by Artorious or something and Seres was probably taking care of him.

Either way this looks like a really shitty game. I mean the story for the anime so far was garbage and it was only 2 episodes

>I'm going to go and free my comrades
>Absolutely no comrades show up

>Random Magician girl for the sake of magical girl!

>Angry because I'M ANGRY AND WON'T LISTEN TO ANYTHING!!!

I mean Jesus Christ and all that just blatant fodder.

I'm going to gamble that Artorious is going to be killed releasing the Big bad.

Velvet will become Maotelus and her companions or side characters will either die or become the 4 other lords
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>>145694075
>partially fallen humans has to devour them
No you idiot. Only Velvet has the power to eat daemons. It's power she gained in the same ritual that killed her little brother. Other "partially fallen" humans are like Rokuro. They are stronger than normal humans, but they can eat deamon like Velvet does.

>Seres has the comb because Velvets little brother is alive as a Seraph
She has the comb because she was present when Artorius killed him. You see her there in one of the trailers.

>Either way this looks like a really shitty game.
You look like a really shitty retard talking out of his ass.
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>>145694353
*they can't eat deamon
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>>145694075
>I'm going to go and free my comrades
>Absolutely no comrades show up
don't blame funi's poor translation on the game m8.

his comrades were his sword and the two nifes he uses to fight the dragon and get his ass kicked. instead of the sword.

>Random Magician girl for the sake of magical girl!
but that's a good thing.

>I'm going to gamble that Artorious is going to be killed releasing the Big bad.
More like, MC-chan releases the big bad, and Artorious dies saving her, and then she goes from edge to angst wondering why he saved her.

The other lords will be side characters with mini-arcs like the lord of land for each city, most likely.
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>>145694075
>I'm going to go and free my comrades
>Absolutely no comrades show up
I stopped reading your post at this point and you, obviously, stopped watching the anime at that line.
His sword is his comrade, stupid fujo.
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>>145689971
So obvious choice of costume
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>>145694586
I assumed he was talking about all the monsters that were locked up
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Rose will save anime in 5 episodes. How excited are you, /a/?
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>>145694632
Then you're pretty fucking stupid, m8. He even had a whole conversation with Velvet right after he said that because she had his "partner" (sword). In fact that's the entire reason they worked together.
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>>145694748
About zero to none.
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More RPGs should start with protagonists already on a quest.
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is a good quality rip out yet
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>>145694901
How about an RPG where the protagonist has already completed the quest and is slowly losing levels as time passes while fighting minor threats before being defeated by a new big bad in front of the sequels protagonist?
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>>145695034
Isn't that just Xenoblade?
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>>145676155
Man I'm seriously thinking about dropping this anime now, I thought this thig was only last week but surprise this week it was the same.

I was enjoying Zestiria, shame but it seems that the studio doesn't really care.
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>>145695266
(You)
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>>145681366
Spotted the guy who failed basic math
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I WANT MORE LEWD PRINCESS OR I RIOT
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>>145695343
She leaves at the end of this cour. Fuck off.
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Someone plz get me some wallpapers from this episode
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>>145695402
She'd better not.
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>>145695402
the biggest criticism of the gamers was that she left too soon.

I think they are going to do an anime original where she stays in the party.
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>>145694901
What's it matter? they'll just get sidetracked into saving the world like always.
>>145695034
How about
>MC trains, goes on world spanning adventure, meets loads of people and saves the world from the ancient evil.
>A golden age of peace and prosperity washes over the land.
>"Now what?"
>MC falls into a deep depression due to feeling out of place in a world without need of a hero or man of action.
>"MC-sama we need your help!" he gets all suited up with his still gleaming gear that he polishes everyday just for this moment. "We seem to have an amazingly huge crop this year, can you help us harvest it?"
>Game ends with him hanging himself.
>or Goes mad from inactivity and becomes the sequel's villain just to break the monotony
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>>145695499
Sorey's va already said it's a straight adaptation with minor changes. Alisha staying would be a massive one.

See you at episode 12 when she leaves.
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>>145695343
Made for being an onahole
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>>145695315
Are you fucking retarded? I'm watching Tales of Zestiria and then they cut to some game I don't care about.

I hope Zestiria is not a BD box because that way I can skip the Berseria volume.
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>>145695578
>Are you fucking retarded?
No but you are if you didn't know that Bears shit was only two episodes for shilling purposes and ends this week. It was never going to 'take' over the anime, stop being a fag.
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>>145695578
I'm glad it's a BD box.
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My name is Velvet. But you can call me Velvet the Daemon Eater.
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>>145695578
>not a BD box
>ufotable
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I don't watch this shit, but I thought Berseria was set hundred years before Zesteria.
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>>145695563
>Sorey's va already said it's a straight adaptation with minor changes. Alisha staying would be a massive one.
He's already said that the relationship between Sorey and Alisha is now that of siblings instead of the one-sided friendship it was in the game. That's a pretty big change in and of itself.
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>>145696167
He said there was a distance between them like siblings, but that's still no big evidence for Alisha staying right now. The fact that he said everything is relatively the same actually goes against it.

Also
>one-sided friendship
It was poorly written in some areas but Sorey was probably the only one who cared about Alisha in some way.
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>>145696327
We know Lailah certainly didn't care.
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Dumb fujo posters out in full force today.
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Are seraphs intangible to normal people?
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>>145695576
do not bully the drills.
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>>145676155
Is this yaoi?
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>>145696327
Simply saying that they're more like siblings is very much unlike the Gabe where she wasn't even a "true companion". It doesn't mean that she'll stay merely that her relationship with the party is different.

It's hard to argue that he did considering how he tended to talk down about her behind her back.
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>>145696591
*game
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>>145696591
>this idiocy again
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>yfw time travel bullshit at the end makes Berseria both a prequel and a sequel to Zestiria
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>>145696797
What idiocy, no one is dating that she'll stick around just that her relationship with the party is different, and them treating her with any respect at all who's be a big change from the game where they didn't give a fuck about her.
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Aren't combs bad omens in Japan?
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>>145696910
>sorey talking shit about alisha behind her back and other things that never happened
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>>145696591
>It doesn't mean that she'll stay merely that her relationship with the party is different.
Well given I was hoping this anime improves upon the game, I certainly fucking hope so?

>It's hard to argue that he did considering how he tended to talk down about her behind her back.
When? Only Lailah and Mikleo really went out of their way to point out that Alisha was the cancer killing Sorey.

Even so, Sorey gave her a pep talk after Maltra sent her to the depths of despair. He atleast tried. Really, the worst he does is simply not even bothering to tell her about his plans or say goodbye. Atleast the manga (and hopefully the anime) will change that because it was super shitty.
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>>145696956
That's breaking a comb. Giving her a comb is probably closer to Kushinadahime's adventure as a hair accessory.
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>>145696963
Except it did happen, there's a side quest whew you find out about one of the council members working with Rowlance. You reach the same conclusion as Alisha but she's first to confront the council member only to get chastised by said council member and put into his debt. One of the things that Sorey week be able to say to Rose is "wow, Alisha really messed up didn't she?" Then there's also how Sorey doesn't tell her about Maltran, or how the group talks about her failures in one of the group skits.

Sorey was a dick to Alisha.
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>>145697220
>if i try to spin this to suit my retarded agenda, surely nobody will remember how it really happened
yawn
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>>145697220
>Sorey was a dick to Alisha.
okay kiddo
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>>145697011
See>>145697011
He wasn't much better than the party even or came to Alisha, he was nice when she was in front of him and crying but he tended to not care.
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>>145697331
>>145697220
You are projecting and misinterpreting and exaggerating and twisting everything to suit your own autism.
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>>145697272
Except I didn't spin anything. Did you actually play the game anon.

Unless you think that tallying about someone behind their back is a great thing to do. Hell right before you go to Rowlance, she gets imprisoned bit after the war sequence Sorey gives it no thought until you run into her on the bridge.

>>145697396
Nothing to twist anon.
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>>145697220
I guess I can agree that Sorey was an half-assed friend, but I can't agree that it was an outright dick. Atleast not like the Seraphs who seriously only bothered to check up on Alisha because they knew Sorey was worried about her and not of their own will.

He cared so he's not a 'dick', it's just that he didn't care enough. Pic-related is also kinda bad.
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Sorey is just autistic.
>Edna calls Rose a mind reader
>Sorey : for real?
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>>145684750
Can she be awoken back into her humanoid form?
Would fit perfectly with the no sacrifices drama Velvet is in. Plus, rings always have that other meaning.
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Why are Zestiria apologist a thing.
Did you see the scene where Sorey and Alisha part ways? There isn't even a "I hope to meet you once again" comment on his part or anything. And the infamous shin no nakama scene follows not so long after and Sorey doesn't give a shit about the seraphs shit-talking Alisha.
But that's Sorey's character for you, he is a drone.
It's been more than a fucking year and half since Zestiria was released, everybody pointed the problems with the script back then.
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>>145697500
I tend to think that is a bit dickish not to spare any thought to a friend that was held hostage.
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>>145695034
If I'm not mistaken, there is a sega game about this, where, after some point in the game, you will lose levels the more you fight.
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>>145697760
Nobody cares about your fanfic, anon. Stop trying to inflict it on other people.
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>>145683869
I dont know, Mohamed. Why dont you force her to wear a burka.
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>>145697760
People who hate the game get tired of shitting on it and just move on. The only people that still want to talk about the game are going to be people who liked it and want their opinions validated.

That's why there seems to be proportionally more people that claim the game "really isn't all that bad." Compared to release date last year, if someone who didn't know about Zestiria came into these threads now, they'd think the game was mediocre to okay, and not completely fucking dogshit even for Tales.
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>>145697844
You're not even talking to one anon. But you insisting that Sorey really cares about Alisha shows that you never actually played the game. Because in the game proper he doesn't really care about her, until you meed Alisha on the bridge, Sorey has essentially forgotten about her and never even brings her up or worries about her, despite the fact that she's being held hostage.
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>>145698072
lol okay
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>>145697760
Alisha a shit anyway.
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>>145697844
>my fanfic
>mine
>everybody pointed this shit out on Nico, 2ch and elsewhere else one year ago, there is even an entire wiki article about the problems with Zestiria script
>this was my first post in the thread
You going "nu-uh" and writing one sentence replies over denying things that are actually on the script of the fucking game qualifies more for fanfiction than anything else in this thread. Come out with a counter-argument or go back to tumblr.
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>>145698101
If you're so sure that he cared about Alisha then show me the scene of Sorey worrying about Alisha after she gets held hostage.
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>>145697760
>Why are Zestiria apologist a thing
When you know something is shit and could've been better, you fail to rationalize the reality in front of you and focus on the 'what if's. See every TOZ thread to date.

>But that's Sorey's character for you, he is a drone
Just like everyone else though.

We can only hope the anime atleast improves upon the relationship between Alisha and the main cast even if she's not present.

Additionally, if Sorey tells Alisha about what he's going to do pre-final boss, we can eliminate the possibility of them making an OVA of Episode Alisha, which was complete dog shit.
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>>145698183
Thanks for the confirmation that you just came here to shitpost.
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>>145698255
Except you're talking to more than one anon, and again I'm waiting for your evidence anon.
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>>145698302
Tough.
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>>145687173
good laugh right there.
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>>145698302
>>145698319
Shit.
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What would be your reaction if they add armatization for Alisha in the anime? I know is impossible, I'm just asking.
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>>145698255
It's pretty sad that you lack arguments and can't properly backup your stance on this issue so you resort to shitposting/pretend that you are trolling as copying mechanism.
It's Gamefaqs tier stuff.
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>>145698319
>>145698364
In other words you can't provide any evidence of Sorey actually caring about Alisha, because it doesn't exist. But instead of simply admitting that you don't have it (because it doesn't exist), you're going to shitpost and cry out how everyone whose pointing out the evidence contrary to your statement "has an agenda".

Bravo anon.

>>145698442
That's probably where he's from, some Gamefaqs fags actually do believe that Sorey gave a shit about Alisha.
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>>145681366
Yeah he was played straight like pretty much any other battle manga protagonist. I didn't particularly dislike him but he was pretty forgettable and Sorey is pretty much the same way. Of all the protagonists, Yuri, Luke, Reid, Ludger, too a lesser extent Veigue and now Velvet are the ones that stand out the most in my mind.
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>>145676447
Her theme music is cute as fuck!
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>>145698429
They'd be sellouts that for sure. I see no significance in Alisha getting armatus if I can't play as her so I wouldn't give a fuck. Too little too late.
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You know, despite Ufotable using so much CGI stuff, I can at least appreciate that they know that 10fps CGI is the fucking worst.
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>>145698429
Just like Rose in the anime, there's no reason for her to have one, especially since there's no gameplay to justify it.
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>>145698065
God I hate those people. Misleading the lucky souls not to know any better.
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>>145682589
Jude. He's the only protag starting and engame that I think would likely lose in a fight. Everyone else becomes god.
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>>145698429
Fucking DROPPED. Only the protagonist and co-protagonist should have the ability to do that.
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>>145698638
She was supposed to have her own "Echo Artes," right?

Does anyone know where that was mentioned?
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I like the set up between Artorius and Velvet so far. I wish this was a Bersaria anime instead of Zesty. Hopefully the game can deliver. My biggest fear right now is that it will be like Xillia and Xillia 2 - tons of reused assests and ultimately disappointing. I wonder if it was really necessary to make Bersaria a prequel or even in the same world as Zesteria.
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>>145698700
Gotta be fair. Rose is different, she isn't an entirely normal human. Having grown familiarized to Seraphs by being around one for so long grants her the ability to interact with them.
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>>145698895
Was dropped when Rose was added in.

>>145698877
>Rose
>co-protagonist.
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>>145698912
The difference is that Berseria and Zestiria are not sequel of each other, they simply happen in the same universe. So no reason to reuse assets like Xillia did.
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I don't get why Alisha have so many fans that would get mad on her behalf. She's the LEAST interesting girl and is dull as it gets as a heroine.
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>>145698986
I just mean the magazine or interview or whatever where it was referenced.
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>>145698942
Actually she hasn't been around Dezel for very long.
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>>145698986
She was called the heroine in an official guide, actually. They're all over the place with it, but in the anime, it's clearly Mikleo now.
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they meant to say gluten plus glutton in a snobby french accent.

say it with me: GLOO-TAUGHN
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>>145699012
She is very boring, but so was 90% of the rest of the cast
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>>145699012
It's just the concept of seeing something you like and having it taken away prematurely that riles people up.

If she would've stayed, she would've a boring main instead of a boring side character. And we all know how GREAT and WELL DEVELOPED our main cast was in Zestiria.
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>>145699012
In my case it's half pity, half I liked her moveset.
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>>145698766
THIS should have been a game outfit, I love the concept.
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I can't really hate Artorius, anti-hero charcters are always great.
Plus Artorius doesn't really enjoy what he do. He said " so this is also an emotion I have to cut " when he killed the young brother. He literally kills his own emotions for the greater good.
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>>145699053
Actually the head scriptwriter said that she wasn't the heroine either, just a foil. They called Rose Heroine for about a few months after the release but then after the fall out and them finding out everyone hates Rose, they've pretty much avoided calling her the heroine ever since.

Now they use Mikleo as a place holder for the heroine position, hence why he was used on the cover on the official guidebook along with Sorey, instead of Rose.
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They're going to make Rose a descendant of the spear girl from Berseria and that's going to be the reason she has high spirit energy.
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>>145699334
Considering how Nips hate Rose, they're probably going to avoid linking her any other project if they wants people to actually give it a chance.
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>>145699254
I know the scriptwriter said that, but they also listed Rose's picture as the heroine in a separate ad too. I wish I could go back to find it but it's not worth it. I'm just saying they've contradicted themselves on the matter too much but we all know that much by now.
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>>145697579
They just try too hard to push the whole "pure" thing he has going.
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>>145699254
I also remember the Alisha heroine issue of her being name as the Heroine of Zestiria in the tales mobage game and alter figure but that was change shortly after release. Which we all know what happens after that.
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>>145699334
If anything that would be a weaker reason because over many generations that early character would have thousands of descendants.
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>>145699425
I know, and I'm saying that he USED to call Rose the heroine now they pretty much avoid talking about her in general, instead using Mikleo as a placeholder for the heroine, and Edna as a placeholder whenever they need a female character.

>>145699458
Yep and contrary to popular belief the mobage game was developed by Bamco.
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>>145699224
Killing your emotion is the first step to killing your attachment to morals.
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>>145699224
Seres indicates that not all is well with Artorius' greater good.
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Rose didn't feel like the heroine in the game. The heroine is supposed to be the love interest as seen in Eternia. I mean, the real protagonist of the story was Meredy and the heroine is still Farah.
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>>145699031
Hasn't she been with him for several years?
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>>145699824
Heroine =/= love interest. They can be mutually inclusive though.

Rose was the most prominent female, so she'd be considered a 'heroine' by my standards. But she wasn't the love interest obviously. Alisha was neither.
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>>145699824
>The heroine is supposed to be the love interest
Not true. The heroine is simply the main female character. Graces's heroine is Sophie but she is not the love interest and Xillia 2's heroine is Elle, also not a love interest.
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>>145699824
Rose is the heroine by the very loose standard of being the most prominent female, but Mikleo gets the title if you go by what the series typically has its heroines doing. Rose ends up feeling more like the main male sidekick.
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>>145699901
Actually in terms of prominence in the story Lailah has got her beat by a mile. Rose's Roger in the story is to really just be the token second human character. Outside of that she had no real importance in the narrative.
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>>145700053
*purpose
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>>145700024
>Rose ends up feeling more like the main male sidekick.
And so co-protagonist is the best description.
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>>145699901
>Rose was the most prominent female

I found that to be Lailah, the woman they literally couldn't have the plot take place without.
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>>145700157
(You)
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>>145700157
>And so co-protagonist is the best description.
Except she had no real presence or purpose in the narrative outside of being the second token human. She's just another party member at best. But she doesn't have any team connection to nor does she move the story.
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>>145700053
>>145700166
You've got a point. Lailah takes the significance but Rose takes the role as sidekick. Edna takes the role as token Zestiria female in Tales wide merch and promos. Alisha.. kek.
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>>145700166
And she's also the best girl by far.
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>>145700406
Yes, assuming you count Mikleo as a boy.
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>>145700323
Actually both Alisha and Edna tend to get used as representatives of Zestiria females, because Nips actually like them. When it comes to Rose however they're attempting to push her in the background more and more.
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>>145700406
Lailah has a good design but she was shit
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>>145700533
Your post is full of malevolence, anon.
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>>145699209
Delinquents are too underused.
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>>145699824
That's because Mikleo was the heroine.
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>pull sword out of stone
>don't get to keep sword
justify this, zestyfags
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>>145700459
Well Bamco does tend to treat him like a girl, and Nips do think of him as one.
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>>145700663
He literally absorbed the sword into his body.
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>>145700503
If you're counting stuff like Asteria, sure. But In terms of series wide promotions, Alisha is rarely seen alone as to not stir the pot as much. Look at Tales FES 2016 for instance.
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>arguing over who the Zestiria heroine was

Why is this still a thing? It's pointless and stupid because the game and it's production was a fucking disaster. There is no heroine. The closest thing is Mikleo only because it was supposed to be Alisha before she got Baba'd out of the game.
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>>145700764
That's why I said when ever they need a female, which is usually just for pandering or advertising purposes. But whenever they just need a character to fill the heroine spot they use Mikleo.
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>>145700882
No one's arguing anon.
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>>145700882
Baba did nothing wrong
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>>145700965
Baba's waifufagging singlehandedly ruined the game. He did everything wrong.
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>>145700882
Alisha is worst girl. I'm glad she got Baba'd.
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Edna is the heroine.
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>>145701088
You're happy that his waifufagging distracted the staff from much needed QC?
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>>145701194
What waifufagging? All he did was put Alisha in her proper place. It's not his fault people were mislead.
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>>145701193
Edna is the real best girl.
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>>145701275
Creating a character and pushing them to the forefront purely so that you can fuck their voiceactress is waifufagging.

What makes it funny is that he got caught waifufagging, lost his position of power, and failed to get into the VA's pants.
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>>145701407
Nah.
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>>145684388
Killing off best girl. Even if she's now a ring or inside Velvet, still sucks.
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rose on fire
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>>145701607
You know putting the flower on a character's head like is Nip shorthand for showing that a character is simple minded and an idiot.
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>>145701412
>caught
That's all unproven though.
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Rose a best.
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>>145701690
They've got some of the messages that he sent to Rose's VA on that Zestiria wiki.

That and all the lies that he told about Rose were all disproven, from the idea that she was there from the start (the other VA's confirmed she wasn't) to the idea that she was shown last because she appears last (she's actually the fourth character you meet).
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>>145701275
Alisha was repeatedly called the heroine pre-release. That's not being misled, it's being lied to.
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Alisha a cutest.
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>>145701193
edna is best zestiria
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>>145701803
>They've got some of the messages that he sent to Rose's VA on that Zestiria wiki.
What did it say? Thats hilarious.
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>>145701746
Shut up, Baba
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>>145701803
>some of the messages that he sent to Rose's VA
Link please.

>>145701852
Didn't they denied it and said that sites and news report were the ones that did that?
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>>145701944
Can't read Nip, but apparently they weren't careful about sending messages.

The last message from Rose's VA was "I lost".
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Lailah is eternal.
Lailah is maternal.
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>>145702003
Yep, hilariously enough, some of those reports came from their own channels. And the other sources didn't allow themselves to take the fall for Baba.

Link is somewhere in here
http://www52.atwiki.jp/tozsougiwiki/pages/14.html
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>>145702015
Moonrunes? If they're publicly available how come no one has translated them?
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>>145702093
Because they've been deleted from the original source.
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>>145702103
Too flat.
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>>145702093
Also because Westerners weren't really interested in the controversy and bought all of Baba's bullshit.
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>>145702103
Other outfit is better because ass.
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>>145702163
flat is justice
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>>145702163
>Implying flat isn't best
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>>145701923
>Unlimited Edna Works
I need more like this.
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