So, can we talk about gurren laggan's ending (and the series

Everything*

Convenience*

>>145412930
that is not a depressing ending

>>145412930
It's a happy ending

>>145413171
Tell simon that.
.maybe i didn't explain myself to well, it was not a "sad" ending per se, but it felt really sad and
depressing in comparison, mostly Simon's part.
And, as i said, Nia's death was unnecessary, forced and dumb, and them "living happily ever after" being as chiche as it sounds would have been a better ending.
Or talking Nia out of the series and changing half of the story so it doesn't involve her.

>>145412930
>If you're going to have a series that doesn't take itself seriously at all
Gurren Lagann took itself pretty damn seriously.

>>145413404
Why was it forced and dumb

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>>145413404
Nia is just a plot device who cares about her. It was important for her to die so that Simon can finish growing up.

She's an anti spiral she has no place in the world anymore.

>>145413551
Well, Nia's character itself is bad, she's only there to move the plot forward so she has no value as a character, she doesn't change or develop and she has no dept.
In the first half she's the reason why Simon gets out of his depression and in the second half she's the damsel in distress.
About the death itself, it wasn't necessary and it was just a dumb way to shove drama and sadness diwn our throats.
Overall the series was quite fun and easily a 7/10, but things such as Nia, killing off minor characters for shock factor (episode 24 and maybe 25) or DEM bothers me a lof.

The ending is great but there really is no reason at that point for Simon and Yoko to not end up together

>>145412930
Yeah, I din't give a fuck for anyone but simon and the show went to shit after it didn't know how to capitalize on kamina's death.

>>145414049
It was never meant to be. She was always Kamina's girl.

Berserk has a happy ending.

We haven't seen it yet but it's a confirmed happy end.

Also GL did take itself seriously, and has a lot of sad parts, the ending was the least sad thing in the entire fucking series.

>>145414376
I was talking about the Eclipse.

>>145414049
But everyone that she kissed ended up dying.

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>it's another "faggot thinks he's knowledgeable about writing because of how many buzzwords he knows" episode

>>145414402
Which isn't the ending you retard. It's literally 1/10th through the manga and the anime continues after it.

My god you are such a retard.

Nia was a plot device, and a very necessary one.

Simon needed someone who was a complete outsider to the Dai-Gurren-dan, with no concept of who Kamina was or why everyone thought he was so crucial to the team's identity and success. Simon wasn't going to hear what he needed to hear from anyone who was comparing him to Kamina, whether consciously (Kittan) or subconsciously (Yoko). The fact that Nia also had no real concept of a human life at all was just cranking this up to an extreme, but was also useful for its own reasons.

Simon also needed someone to remind him that he had something to protect. A cute love interest who supports him is a pretty easy and effective way to do so.

>>145414596
Oh, believe me, i don', but even i can spot extremely obvious flaws.
Also, shitposting and mutual insults aside, I've heard there's a new lupin III series (or movie, I'm not sure), should be watch that or the original?or, even a more fundamental question, is lupin III any good? sincerely and afraid of sounding like an asshole or a newfag (wich i actually am), the old art style and limited animation turns me off a little

>>145412930
>the anime is a dumb, exaggerated and over the top mecha series with an upbeat tone
Which was great
>and you end it in such a depressing way?
Kinda agree on this, but I found it far more stupid that they didn't search for any way to save Nia. I mean I understand the whole "death of the universe" and "don't abuse spiral power" thing, but wasn't the entire series about fighting fate and that kind of shit in the first place?

The ending made me feel like the anime surrendered on itself by then, they should have found a way to preserve the universe AND save Nia thus keeping this spirit of "doing the impossible" intact.
But no looks like they can't do the impossible, they can't fight the power, only bow down and let a comrade die.

>>145414649
There's something called anime, Berserk has one, and that's were it ends.
Of course, I'm currently reading the manga too.

>>145414827
I'd say it's best to start with Castle of Cagliostro to get a good feel for how the series is and have an example of the best it has to offer. Then you should try to watch from the original on up. The original changed directors part of the way through so after around episode ten or so, there's a notable change in how it feels but the stuff before it can still be enjoyable. Just go into it with an open mind.

>>145414827
If you mean "Lupin, the italian adventure" stay away from it. Like, far away.

>>145415015
Why would you say that?

>>145415081
Because it sucks. It's a very weird story about Lupin doing anything but stealing, getting caught up in a series of lame situations (like teaching at school or getting chased by a supermodel actress) and eventually fighting Leonardo da Vinci in some weird drug induced scenario.
There are far better seasons of Lupin that that turd.

>>145414865
Berserk anime doesn't end you retard.

Nobody said you had to love it, some people do, some people don't, the earth keeps on spinning.

There's not that much subtext or hidden meaning or anything, so unless you were half asleep or not paying attention while watching it, there is no amount of explanation which will improve your subjective enjoyment of it, and that's perfectly fine; every genre and every show isn't for everyone; nothing is truly universally acclaimed.

>>145414849
Yoko and Simon recognized that it would be plain wrong to do so. If you start bringing people back, they just get in the way of the new generation.

>>145415178
That's an understandable perspective to take, I suppose. I tend to prefer the Lupin episodes and movies that deal with his stealing as well however I wouldn't say that Lupin Part IV is something that should be avoided. I'd say that there's far worse in the series than that such as a lot of early and later Part II episodes and quite a lot of the specials such as Jigen's Gravestone, which while it looked nice, felt like a stretched out, more mediocre Part II episode.

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>>145415406
Which is exactly why it's such a bullshit excuse, Nia's a special existance, not normal people. She's a single case amongst the billions, the reason why she disappears is because she needed energy to keep going so all they had to do was spare a scrap of energy and refill her drained batteries or something.

It's not like we're talking of bringing Kamina back from ashes or random guys from being deceased carcasses, just stabilizing her with a plug or something. How does this set a bad precedent when she's literally the only case in the universe?

Sorry but as much as I liked TTGL the ending was a massive coup-out for the sake of cheap sadness (together with Simon becoming a hobo).

>>145412930
I didnt like the ending too, like beetween the thousands of people on the world, nia was the spiral messenger, a discarded object that should have died WAS the messenger, too forced, she should have died on battle or something, not just some random lottery

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>Nia is disappearing
>they know, she knows
>untold amounts of power at their disposal
>just watch her fade
>fade
>aaaand she's gone
>"can't resurrect her, bringing people back from the dead would spell spiral nemesis"

GEE WEE MAYBE IF YOU MOVED YOUR ASS A BIT EARLIER YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO **RESURRECT** ANYONE

Seriously, ending felt like watching someone dying of blood loss near a blood donation machine with all the tubes and bags ready only to do jack shit and complain about the cruel world afterwards.

>>145416331
They didn't save her from dying because if they did, then they'd be obligated to do so with everyone else who's dying or has died. They don't do this because if they used spiral energy irresponsibly, then they'd trigger Spiral Nemesis. This is a metaphor for how power should be used responsibly for the good of everyone rather than for selfish reasons.

>>145413404
I agree that it was forced and dumb, but regardless of HOW it ended, the way it ended was still fitting in tone with the rest of the series and really rounded out Simon's character.

The overall point? Things happen in life that sucks, but we can either wallow in the fact or find happiness in the memories and move on--try and find a way to apply what you learned to the betterment of yourself and others. Building a foundation on those memories is how we give tribute to and immortalize others.

>>145416649
>They didn't save her from dying because if they did, then they'd be obligated to do so with everyone else who's dying or has died.
Which is why it makes no sense. Nia's a Spiral Messenger and fabricated entity, not a normal human dying of natural causes. The correlation is completely faulty.

>>145416649

that's retarded

like "eating 50 pizza pies at once is unhealthy, so i can never have a slice" retarded

>>145416856
Of course it's retarded. These are retards defending Gurren Lagann's terrible writing so they have to make mental gymnastics, like G-Reco fans do to explain stupid shit away

>>145416791
>>145416856
You are just giving strength to the point of not resurrect.

>If Simon can do it, why not me? I think I'll starting gathering spiral power so I can live forever

Best not to start down that road and live normal lives

>>145417013
Are you incapable of reading text or something?
Nia is not human. She's disappearing because she's half fake and that side is vanishing. She's a special case.

Saving her doesn't mean having to save every 90year old grandpa or guys with tubercholosis, this jump of logic makes no sense.

>>145417107
Everyone would think their own case is special....

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>>145417013
Imagine if Nia was a robot and they refused to repair her because
>then we'd have to repair every single non-robot dead human being in the universe

Sorry bro but it's fucking retarded.

Untreated cancer is a death sentence and trying to stop death is wrong so all you cancer patients can just die because it would be wrong to treat you.

>>145416856
>Let's abuse Spiral Power for our own personal wants just this once, what could go wrong?
>Hey, those guys abused Spiral Power for their own personal wants just once, we'll do it too, just this once. What could go wrong?
If you think Simon and Co. are the only spiral warriors in the universe you must have been having a brain aneurysm while trying to watch the show.

>>145417186
>repairing a robot requires Spiral Power
No, you fucking idiot.

>>145417215
>treating cancer requires Spiral Power
No, you fucking idiot.

>trying to stop death is wrong
No, you fucking idiot.

>>145417186
The only way to do it to use a godlike amount of spiral power.

The only comparison would be if you had to detonate the Tsar Bomba to restart the Robot's fusion core in the middle of cold war Russia.

You can call a doctor anytime, it's not about that...

>>145417217
They already caused more long term harm for the universe by killing the anitspiral and letting every spiral race grow in population. Allowing Nia to live a human lifespan is small shit compared to that.

>>145417256
>The only way to do it to use a godlike amount of spiral power
Source? Because for all we know the reason behind her disappearance is what the Antispiral sucked out before Simon arrived, meaning that she would need a pretty little amount of energy to return being 100% and safe.

How does this correlate to "having to resurrect every dead person in the universe" completely eludes me.

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>>145417217
>If you think Simon and Co. are the only spiral warriors in the universe you must have been having a brain aneurysm while trying to watch the show.
There's so many faults with this reasoning.
First, those guys wouldn't have a Spiral Messenger comrade in arms who needs help;
Second, they wouldn't even know it if Simon helped Nia during the FUCKING 30 DAYS WAIT BEFORE HER DEATH;
Third, they could have done this BEFORE SHE DIED, thus completely avoiding any "don't resurrect the dead" conflicts;
Fourth, they can't control what other spiral warriors do in the universe
Fifth, they already destroyed the Antispirals, so sparing Nia some recharge would've been little in the grand plan of things

I could keep going.... but yeah, it was just forced.

Besides the Lupin discussion, I fucking hate this thread. You shits should go back and rewatch the show and take in the messages the show's trying to relay to you instead of nitpicking about it being "forced" without understanding what it's getting at and misunderstanding everyone who attempts to help you understand.

Everyone understand the ending's message. Problem is, it makes no sense.
They don't "fight the power", they abide to it in the end.
They don't help Nia despite both her state and condition being completely unique in the entirety of the universe and requiring little effort to fix.
And he becomes a hobo because... reasons.

>>145417979
>Problem is, it makes no sense.
No, you just don't agree with it. It makes perfect sense.

The most powerful spiral being in the universe right chose not to exercise his power as an example.

Was it necessary? Maybe. maybe not. You hardheads are missing the point. He did more than was necessary to ensure that spiral nemesis wouldn't occur. He left the diplomacy and such to those more fitting to the tasks.

>>145417882
I hope you realize that this studio is famous for pulling out shocking shit endings for the sake of drama (looking at you P&S).

TTGL was a very great ride but the ending just makes no sense in lieux of the episodes that lead to it.
They spend the entire story talking about smashing barriers, defying fate and fighting the power, yet by the end of the arc they cave in letting the one team member they wanted to save die, with a very big jump in logic to justify it.

I mean you don't need to be Shirou to realize that saving a girl from "one-time limited magical cancer" is kinda different than resurrecting people all over the universe.

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Imagine if, say, the Antispirals infected Yoko with a spiral shit disease that would kill her in days. Would it be alright to let her die because "muh spiral power abuse?".

Fuck no. They saved Earth from destruction abusing spiral power transformations like crazy, it's fucking war, save who you can and THEN after everything's done you can decide to let your power rest and let nature (as in real human beings and natural death) take its course.

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I would have been able to accept everything else if thus fuck was beaten half to death and forced to beg in the streets.

>>145413404
Hee death was necessary to reinforce the shows theme, you goddamn retarded ape.

How can something like GL fly over your head so far? Goddamn.

>>145418545
He did literally nothing wrong

i was like man this is a 10/10 then episode 24 came. really felt i just wasted my time

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>nia is partially made of anti-spiral energy
>it's an integral part of her being
>no amount of spiral energy can compensate for the lack of anti-spiral energy
>recreating her wouldn't preserve the original, only create a copy
>some people don't settle for copies
It's like you guys have a hard time figuring this out or something. Fucking hell.

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>>145420531
>Show is entirely about "making the impossible possible"
>Ending of the show declares that "No, this thing was too impossible to make possible"

It was forced drama for the sake of forced drama. Just like when they murdered all the side characters for forced drama but you didn't fucking care because none of them had been fleshed out at all

All the lights in your eyes are stars

>>145419072
>Hee death was necessary to reinforce the shows theme, you goddamn retarded ape.
Everyone's been explaining how the ending actually contradicts the show's themes up until the very ending where it switches from "Row Row fight the power" to "Spiral Energy is bad".

>>145420704
>>Show is entirely about "making the impossible possible"
>>Ending of the show declares that "No, this thing was too impossible to make possible"
Fucking this, a million times.
It just sucked.

>>145420531
Nice fanfic.

>>145412930

How is that a depressing ending.

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>>145420704
>>145422035
>>145421981
>>145422075
But she is made partially of anti-spiral energy. Anti-spiral energy is the antithesis to spiral energy. You think they can just ram enough spiral energy into her to replace that?
The whole show is about how the anti-spirals are the polar opposites of spirals. If an anti-spiral being could be sustained with spiral energy, then they wouldn't have had to blow the anti-spirals the fuck up, they could have just made friends with them.
Nia came apart because the anti-spiral energy that was a part of her being ceased to exist. They couldn't fix that with spiral energy or they would have. This is not a fucking debatable point. It happened, in the show, they said it explicitly and implicitly. If you don't like that, too bad for you.

>>145418545
>Rossiu
>Doing anything wrong

Holy shit you are retarded

>>145422484
>EXCUSE

The show's theme is overcoming the impossible. No matter what logic you try and dictate to defend the choice, by making a scenario where it is impossible to overcome the impossible, it shits over the shows theme and basically taints the entire show

>>145422573
Pretty much this desu.

It's also frustrating when they pull it out of their asses during the last fifteen minutes of the entire show to deliver some kind of emotional payoff.

>>145415951
Try explaining that to anyone who asks you to save another person.

>No, no, see, we just stabilized her, it's a subtle difference

They won't give a fuck.

>>145418206
If you took the ending of Panty and Stocking seriously you're straight up clinically retarded.

>>145422573
It has nothing to do with what's possible. It's easily possible. Point is, they mutually agreed upon it. Criticize that, if anything.

It has nothing to do with spiral power and everything to do with what Nia wanted.

>>145412930
Wandering hobo endings are the worst. They should of stuck with Ep1's ending.

>>145422484
This is just some massive headcanon you got and I really wish you'd stop citing it as some fact.
In fact the show directly contradicts you as Simon admits to have thought the possibility of saving Nia but did not to because muh abuse, not because it couldn't have been done.
So yeah, the possibility was totally available regardless.

It doesn't matter if Nia was real or not, or if it was possible or not.

Simon treats Nia as if she were human so she gets that treatment. You can't start messing with life and death.

>>145423480
>Point is, they mutually agreed upon it.
And it was legitimately retarded. Listen I understand the whole point of not wanting to misuse Spiral Energy, I really do, but why the fuck wouldn't they go and save their companion there? It's not like Nia was someone who was dying of old age or some other natural cause, it was a fabricated existance that had been recently damaged by the arch-fucking-villains and they could have fixed. That was nothing natural there they were interfering with.

>>145422732
>Overcoming the impossible is our thing!
>Except when it comes to saving the girl while preventing the Spiral Nemesis, whoops

In fact they even insult the Anti-Spirals on this
>"Haha you chose to shut yourself down and become monsters because you fear the death of the universe, that's YOUR limit!"
and then pull the same stunt on their comrade.

Guess that was the Dai Gurren limit.

>>145424020
Because they didn't want to. It has nothing to do with limits.

They didn't want to.

>>145424068
Yeah, I got that. And the reasoning behind it makes no fucking sense. Got it?

>>145423888
Yeah, go tell that to a medic.

>>145424091
It did. Because it's what the characters decided to do. There's literally no way you can argue that doesn't make sense, as much as you can argue what they choose to eat for breakfast "makes sense."

>But that's not what those characters would/should do!

There's nothing to support the argument that Simon and Nia couldn't agree to let her pass. Because they did. So that's what happens. So it makes sense.

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Nia is cute.

>>145424173
Question: d you know what "reasoning" means?

>>145424205
What does that have to do with it? Their reasoning is whatever it is, if a character does something you don't expect or don't agree with it that doesn't make it wrong or nonsensical.

I cannot believe that it's been almost ten years and people still don't get TTGL's ending

>>145424260
In other words no. Reasoning means the logic behind a decision, not the decision itself.
Yes, that's what they chose. No the reasoning behind it makes no sense, still.

>>145424273
Everyone gets it, it's just fucking retarded and shits on every episode before those last 10 minutes.

>>145424309
No, you disagree with it.

It makes sense. It's fully coherent and rational. You just disagree with it.

>>145424336
That exactly means you don't get it.

>>145424173
>So it makes sense
So, in the event characters make absolutely stupid decisions for the sake of drama it has to make sense because that is what they've decided?

That makes no sense.

>>145424347
Nah bro, sorry.
See >>145416856 for a pretty accurate example of the reasoning behind this.
The anti-spirals had a good reasoning behind their choice, this doesn't. They're literally letting a comrade die to set an example that nobody's gonna ever know about, for a situation that's never going to repeat itself.
It's just braindead.

>>145424373
You're free to explain us how the massive contradiction between two dozen episodes of
>let's do the impossible
and those last 10 minutes of
>we can't do this
can cohexist. I doubt it though.

>>145424397
No. Nothing makes sense inherently by virtue of being what happens in a story.

It's just that, in this case, there's a:

Clear and logical progression of events

Series of decisions that do not conflict with past characterization or motivations

An end result that satisfies the themes of the narrative

Nothing happens that contradicts anything. Nothing happens that doesn't "make sense."

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>>145424460
>Series of decisions that do not conflict with past characterization or motivations

>>145424404
Bullshit. If you get right down to it, it has nothing to do with ideology. It's just the choice of two people.

Plus, the pizza thing makes no sense. Not even a little. There's nothing morally wrong or right about eating one or fifty slices of pizza. There is with saving one person and then never anyone else.

>>145424432
They could do it.

They could have done it.

They chose not to.

Retard.

The actual theme is the same reason Kamina died. Same reason you see the two kids at the end in their own robots.

>>145424486
I must have missed the episode where the cast makes a rousing argument against euthanasia.

Uh, sorry for insulting you, by the way.

>>145424529
>The same reason Kamina died
No, Kamina died because he took lethal damage and wasn't able to get medical attention in time.

Nia also took lethal damage but they had the means and the time to heal her but chose NOT to.

A
LARGE
DIFFERENCE

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>Clear and logical progression of events
We can do anything! Fuck fear! Fuck limits! ROW ROW
>Series of decisions that do not conflict with past characterization or motivations
Except save this girl despite being well within our power and her pretty much needing just a shot of energy but that'd be too much and we're scared of the consequences
>An end result that satisfies the themes of the narrative
We can't do this. The oppressors were right on fearing this. This is a limit we cannot pass.


whoops!

>>145424621
No, I just meant thematically. Recently I've read a few posts about how there's a strong undercurrent of the "next generation."

Kamina was passing it on to Simon, who became greater because of it. Simon passed it on to those kids at the end. And so on.

Like a spiral.

I mean, come on. That's what the anti-spiral was trying to avoid. Not spiral power itself, but people who couldn't let go of it.

>>145424529
>There is with saving one person and then never anyone else.
And so they didn't even try. Good job.

Shirou and The Doctor would like to have a word with you.

>>145424647
Something being within your power doesn't mean the only logical option is to go through with it unanimously.

>>145424699
They didn't need to try. They knew every option. It has nothing to do with "try."

>>145412930
Most super robot shows tend to have a bittersweet end, deal with it.

Also, Nia accepted her fate, she knew she wouldn't live for much long, but she still made the most with the little time she had remaining.

>>145424734
So they wanted Nia to die? Those sick bastards!

I like to pretend the last 10 minutes of the show just doesn't exist and that the team remained true to its ideals of doing the impossible until the end.

To me the show basically ends with Nia and Simon in the capsule after the victory, but before they lost their will to fight the limit and just surrender to inevitability.

>>145424847
Then you missed the entire point of the show.

>>145424895
Nah, only of the last 10 minutes.
They can easily pass over the torch to the next generation without losing their balls in the process.

>>145424918
You really are stupid.

>>145424927
If that makes you feel better. A team that lets one of their own die "for the greater good" is dead to me, so I'd rather see the last 10 minutes as something separate.

>>145424971
It has nothing to do with the greater good. It was the choice of one woman.

If that doesn't happen, there's nothing to illustrate the theme.

>>145424971
>"for the greater good"
How is it even for the greater good?

If someone else is in their position of being able to save a loved one just like that, and Nia was a very specific, one of a kind example, will they not do it because some other shmucks didn't do it?

Will someone, galaxies away not do it because of that as well?

In the end, they could have gone with the happy ending, but just decided to go with drama to enforce a theme that goes against 95% of the series.

>>145425057
That's waaaaay outside the scope of the series. It has nothing to do with the greater good.

Don't cling spiral power. If everyone who used it used a little and then stopped there wouldn't be an issue. There would be no issue. There would be no Spiral Nemesis, and no Anti-spiral.

Thing is, people do cling to it. Lord Genome did. The Anti-spiral did. So when Simon comes up and says "I won't" and means it, the anti-spiral of course won't listen.

But Simon really did mean it. And then shows it. And is also what Nia wanted. Without that there's nothing to illustrate the point.

>>145425057
Don't get me wrong I agree with this 100%. I was talking specifically in the context of the "decision" they made.

To me it makes no sense that they'd want to make an example with Nia when her case is unlike anyone else that will ever happen in the universe, not to mention the fact that nobody in the galaxy is gonna know about it and that even if they did it still doesn't mean other spiral energy people are gonna follow suit and refuse to save their loved ones as well.

In the end Nia's sacrifice here is pointless. It just serves to appease a faulty mindset of "doing the right thing" and illustrate a point... to nobody.
Realistically speaking it's just the death of a girl and nothing else, which is why their decision makes no sense.

>>145425198
They're not making a example of Nia. It's nor like she was begging them to save her and they were like, "sorry, that would be a misuse of spiral power."

That doesn't mean the situation can't serve as an example though. Even if no one else ever knows.

Even if you take everything else away, it was her choice. Spiral power or not, message or not, science fiction or not. It was her choice. Is what she wanted as a character. That makes sense. I can't think of any other way to put this.

It's just what she wanted.

>>145425157
The only thing the people of the galaxy are gonna know is how Spiral Energy can do incredible shit when they defeat the Antispirals.
Nia's death happened on a private wedding on a planet amongst millions, what kind of "point" does that illustrate? And to who? What purpose does it serve?

I could understand if hers was some case of unavoidable death, but it wasn't. They could have saved her, and chose otherwise, for no real effect or gain.

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>>145425256
>Is what she wanted as a character. That makes sense.
Dude again, nonsensical decisions stay nonsensical regardless if the characters "wanted" them or not.
I could decide to cut my ear to save the universe too but that wouldn't make my decision less nonsensical.

>>145425258
"We're not going to misuse Spiral Power, the outcome of which is also in accordance with our exact wishes."

If they did, it would have been the exact fucking thing they just fought against the anti-spiral to prove they wouldn't do.

EVEN IF NO ONE ELSE EVER KNOWS.

>>145425285
Are you really this stupid? If she had been hit by a bus and asked to be taken off life support, would you still be saying it doesn't make sense?

TTGL is ultimately about the conflict between hope and despair. This theme is referenced constantly throughout the show and should ring true to anyone that's watched it.

In this way, the idea of Simon and Nia running into the limits of their abilities serves a pretty clear narrative purpose; hope has no meaning if it's always rewarded with success. It is instead hope that rises in spite of failure and against despair that really matters.

Kamina's death had all the same earmarks. You could ask why such a goofy and lovable character should be killed off in a supposedly upbeat series, but with consideration of that main theme of finding hope in the face of despair, his death serves a clear purpose and clearly displays the themes of the show. The struggle through suffering is what matters, and without some real suffering, there could be no real struggle.

>>145412930

Guren Lagan a shit.

>>145413404
Nia's death was part of 'growing up' for Simon.
There is a reason while first part of series / first movie is titled Childhood's End.
It was as happy end as possible.
>>145414049
This part actually suprised me. Thou after Kittan and Kamina she simply might have had enough of dead love interests.
>>145416856
You are new to humanity, aren't you?
>>145417107
Why not? Why is she a special case? People are dying man, do something about it! You have means to safe them, do something!

Remember how mob pretty much lynched Simon after first Spiral's invaded? Yeah.
>>145417183
Because to everyone, his or hers case is special. Very small number of people can rise above that and look at the whole picture.

>>145418545
kys

Rossiu did everything he had to

>series starts out as pretty interesting
>Simon obviously has some good development in store for him
>Kamina, while annoying most of the time, is an intriguing character
>episode 8 was great
>suddenly asspulls everywhere
>SIMON WILL SAVE US, SIMON CAN DO IT, IF ANYBODY CAN DO IT SIMON CAN
>pointless timeskip
>SImon STILL doesn't have a personality
>Rossiu becomes even more of a faggot
>who the fuck were these side characters again?
>Oh right, we were supposed to have some sort of huge space battle so lets throw that in there

What the fuck happened? Why can't Nakashima stay consistent for more than 4 episodes?

> all these mentally underage retards trying to make Gurren-Lagann into another stereotypical shonen mecha for elementary schoolers

You need to have a brain of a mosquito to not appreciate its greatness.

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>>145415951
Simon letting nia die was the conclusion to his character and the fullfilment of the promise he made to the anti spiral. by that point he more or less had the power of a god. him learning not to abuse it was the final part of simon becoming a man. He even states his reasoning of 'not letting the dead get in the way of future generations' he also goes on to explain that he only makes the tunnels others pass through.

nearly every single TTGL whinge thread is the same thing, retards sperging out that simon didnt save nia. the show isnt even subtle about why he doesnt, it explains it almost too blatantly but people still find a reason to cry about it.

Simon manned the fuck up and beat the everloving shit out of a universal+ entity and freed every single spiral race in the galaxy and advanced mankind from cave dwellers to galactic level in 27 years. nia/kamina/kittan dying were the part of theprice to pay and simon accepted that

>>145424647
>hey guy that power you use to overcome the impossible
>yeah spiral power
>well turns out that actually destroys the universe, no questions asked
>no amount of screaming will fix that, in fact it will just make it worse
>its the one drawback to your free deus ex energy
>allright we sort of fucked a dimension up via collateral damage beating this guy, its apparant were dealing with some heavy shit
>lets be responsible now.

>HURR WHAT THE FUCK WHY NO HAPPY ENDING FUGGG

these threads, every time