Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1626

できる

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ぞいぞい
いぞいぞ
ぞいぞい

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>>145346336

>>145346281
Previous failed threads: >>145301661 >>145301594

Obligatory 新幹線 post

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I'm really sorry for asking this but I'd really appreciate the help. I don't get the grammar going on here. He's saying that lancer's a nice guy and that this is over his budget I think but I don't get how to read it. 手頃なやつでひとつ, I don't get how the で works here.

>>145346877
To add to my previous post. Is he saying be a handy guy because this is over my budget? I don't get what the ひとつ means either here.

>>145346281
Requesting the image on the cover of the book

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>>145346281
Fuck that OP image is nice, good job

>>145347526
Fuck that image is from a bad anime

How do you guys feel the motivation to study? I'm feeling a bit down these days, everytime I try to do my reps it's as though my brain starts telling me I can't make it and there's no point anyway

For learning vocab
No point in watching cartoons
Pick up a real book

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>>145347134
This is the best I can do.

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>>145347612
Bad but easy to understand

Can anyone recommend some matome sites?

>>145347630
I make it a routine and force myself to do it regardless of what I want.

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久しぶりだね。皆さん、元気ですか?

>>145347710
shouldnt that be あらあら and not あらら?

>>145346877
Is it possible he's talking about the price? You didn't post the context at all, but it could be something like "give me one that's good for my price range (this one is too expensive)".

>>145348061
no she's not a horny milf

>>145348180
that face doesnt look like an "oops". Also あらあら can be used like a cutesy "aw come on" right? it's not necessarily related to sexuality to my knowledge

In Tae Kim grammar guide for basic reading like Yotsuba, the basic grammar section is enough of should I learn all before start reading?

>>145348330
No, stuff in Essential Grammar and Special Expressions will come up every single sentence.

You can probably skip Advanced Topics.

Today I did Anki for 42 minutes and then I read a visual novel for 2 hours and 9 minutes.

>>145348568

you should have done anki for 1 hour and 16 minutes and read vn for 3 hours and 28 minutes

>>145348660
What is your formula based on? I question its efficiency.

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>暴走族
>club of rabble-rousing reckless-driving delinquents

>>145348774
well somebody had a fun day

>>145348568
Should've read Anki for 2 hours and 51 minutes.

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>>145348774

>>145348774
Nice, I added this word myself today. I like when this happens.

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>>145348069
I think that's what he's saying I just have trouble understanding how to actually understand the sentence. In any of the guides I've never seen a で used like that.

>>145346281
What are you guys playing/studying today? I just downloaded Amagami and it seems pretty easy. Might be the first native VN I beat.

Did my usual reading of a news article as well. Haven't done any listening practice yet though.

Life without anki feels good man.

Can I get some help with translating a headline?

"JX通信社がQUICKと共同通信から数億円規模の資金を調達、金融分野でのニュース技術の開発へ"

Am I translating this correctly as "JX Newsagency received several hundreds of million of yen from Quick and Kyodo newsagency for the development of (here I am kind of lost at the second part. How exactly could I translate the 技術 in this context)"

>>145348330
I just finished the basic grammar part today and have this huge urge to read as well. Can't wait until I've completed all of it but for now it's suffering.

>>145349189
Still Flyable Heart, but I'm thinking of picking up something else since 生徒会長 annoys the hell out of me.

>>145349251
Well first you should look at 共同通信

>>145348330
Just be familiar with some of the big concepts like て form and ます. Know how the big particles work (は、が、の、と、etc.).

After that just struggle through reading. Jisho anything you don't know (which will be mostly everything).

>>145349426
what do you mean?

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>>145349476
>Kyodo

>>145349476
Never mind I think I'm an idiot.

>>145349549
it's the name of a company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyodo_News

>>145349343
The worst part is how every time it seems like he's getting character development it turns out to be a joke.

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>>145347134
>>145347697
Turns out I had it after all. Although I had to dig through my KLK folder to find it, so now it's time to fap

俺を誰だと思っている

Is this supposed to be separated as (俺を誰だ)(と思っている) and is just grammatically incorrect. You don't "who" someone.

>>145350545
I'm not sure that sentence makes sense at all

>>145348330
ALL of tae kim is basic level grammar.

>>145350983
uhm I'll trust a verified japanese over some anon on the internet, kay?

>>145351264
but it is

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>>145350983

>>145346281
What does the へん mean on the readings for kanji in the anki deck?
This, what's the difference
て・てへん

>>145351784
漢字の偏の一つ。 「折」

>>145352017
if i cant read what im talking about i cant read that shit

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>not being fluent in Japanese in a single night
できない

>>145352081
After about 2 years I could probably do it in a single night

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おはようおにいちゃん

きんめだるだって

しょうぶはときのうん

>>145350545
Wouldn't it kind of make sense spoken as
俺を誰だ。。と、思っている？

Who am I thinking about?

idk man, what the fuck is the context for that shit.

>>145350545
It means "Who the fuck do you think I am?"

>>145350545
who do you think i am/theyre thinking "who that" about me

>>145352226
>>145352352
>>145352397
I know what it means I just don't see why it would be worded that way since it seems so grammatically fucked.

Is this grammatically correct?

>It was made on three Gameboys using LSDJ
3つのGBでLSDJを使用して作られた。

>>145352472
Sometimes grammar doesn't need to add up.
"What can I do you for?" would be an English example of people saying stuff differently just because it's fun.

>>145352548
Sure

>>145352472
俺を　「誰だ」と思っている

doing they act of "who dat"-thinking of me

Does that make it click?

>>145352630
Don't give advice when you're new. It's totally normal grammar.

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>>145352726
>Don't give advice when you're new. It's totally normal grammar.
My statement is true. I never said that in this particular example the grammar is incorrect.

>>145352548
>GBで
に
>LSDJを
で
>使用して
You don't even need this.

>>145352726
Should add that when it's aid in an asking tone it gets the "who do they think i am?" meaning, but I cant be arsed trying to word that literally.

>>145352791
If you don't think the statement is relevant here yourself then why'd you make it?

>>145352983
It's relevant, Anon should know that grammar doesn't need to be correct in everything he encounters.
Look at how often English native speakers make mistakes.
Manga have plenty of mistakes here and there.

>>145352858
>使用して
>You don't even need this.
I figured as much, but I was looking at the technical usage of "made [employing/using] X". Thanks for clarifying.

>LSDJを
>で
Without the 使用して, that is what I would've used.

>GBで
>に
Are you sure that it would not also be で? The distinction drawn here is that it was composed on three hardware gameboys, as opposed to some sort of emulation. に usually carries a meaning of a physical place, while the "3つのGB" is more an emphasis of the method.

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どうなるのかな

にほんのじだいがかわるよ

にんげんはかわらないんだけど

じだいはかわるよ

>>145353133
Don't ask production questions here. No one here is native let alone fluent. Ask in the /int/ thread where natives actually post. The guy you're talking to is most likely just guessing himself.

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>>145346378

>>145353556
>try to watch new game because of all the shitposting here
>total crap, drop it halfway through the first episode
Should have expected nothing less from a forced meme.

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>>145353665
sorry for your shit taste

Whoever writes for Unisonshift fucking loves the phrase 弧を描く. I roll my eyes every time I see it now he uses it so much.

>>145353959
Is it used to describe a stream of urine?

>>145353665
Stop being a hipster who doesn't watch the best anime of the year because it's popular

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しくだいしないとー

しくだいしないとー

あ゛゛゛ーしくだいしたくないよー

とくにえいごの

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>>145354036

Started reading Leyline. In this case, magic birds. In Flyable Heart, I believe the stoic guy threw something, and it 弧を描いた. And I don't remember the context but he used it in Nanatsuiro Drops too. I am not sure why it pushes my buttons but it does

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>>145353665
>dropping anything in the 1st ep

>>145354395
Well, he sounds like a tremendous boy molesting fruit unable of appreciating the high art of cute girls doing cute things so he won't be getting anything after watching any more of it.

>>145354395
I drop a lot on the first EP, for example if it has a virtual reality RPG world as setting.

>>145354222
>しくだい

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>>145354222
難しい？

>>145353959
I was going to say that I was glad I mined that phrase from Flyable Heart, but then I remembered I didn't start mining until I finished it. So that means the writer of Satsukoi must also love that phrase.

Hey guys. Where do you look up obscure readings? 時間 can apparently be read as とき but I couldn't get any information on that.
The sentence I got that from is this one: 昼と夜の間で　時間（とき）が止まる

>>145356500
It could also be read as タイム or whatever the author feels like. Sometimes they are really crazy, don't worry about that too much because those will always have furigana.

>>145356803
Oh, I see thx. And does that sentence mean something like in the gap between noon and evening time stops?

>>145356967
Probably, if that makes sense in the context of whatever you are reading.

When doing listening practice, at what speed should I playback my media for best efficiency and results?

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>>145352081
ミギちゃんおはよう
come back

my reason to learn the language has faded and I'm really starting to struggle with my anki reps, specially because I'm having to relearn 10 cards daily because it's shit from 4 months ago I don't remember anymore

should I just pause new cards until I clear these out or what?

>>145357748
You should quit the language if you have no reason to learn it.

>>145357748
Why are you trying if you don't know what you want to do with the language?

Quit anki and find something fun to read.

なんJから来たンゴwwwwwwww
よろしくニキーwwwwwww

How do I improve my retention? Anki has become a monotonous repition of kanji compounds that I have to (again) over and over. It has made studying a huge pain.

>>145359164
get a japanese girlfriend

>>145359208
That was the end goal, not the short term.

>>145359164
Increase your steps in Anki

>>145359233
it is at 10 right now. Whats a good number?

>>145359164
I wish I knew. 75-80% retention with 60% on mature cards. Getting 200-250 daily reviews with only 10 new cards per day.

>>145359291
The default is usually fine, but adding an extra step will help retention. Just sessions take a bit longer.
Personally I added 5 and kept 10, and I did the same thing for failed cards.

Also, this may not be applicable to you, but I did find letting shit slide because you don't feel like failing it will just make you fail more cards as well. Don't be afraid to fail a card. Even if feel like you'd know it if it came up again, fail it. That helped my retention a lot.

>>145359164
Don't eat like shit, exercise, sleep no less than 7 hours a night

>>145359164
Do sentence on the front instead. This is how you encounter words in the wild unless you're taking a vocab test.

>bbbut I'll just be memorizing the sentence
Not really unless you're an autistic savant or if you only have a couple hundred cards.
All Anki is good for is planting a seed in your memory bank that you can attach things to when you encounter them over and over again while reading native material.

>>145359164
>>145359339

You guys need to realize that anki is a horrible way to learn Kanji. Especially if you're just grinding with core 2k/6k.

If you want to learn Kanji you need to devote time to only learning Kanji. Create a Kanji deck. Read RTK and figure out mnemonics to help you retain.

Alternatively, read more and anki less. If you consistently read every day you'll pick up on all the common kanji/vocab. You need to make sure you look up every word you don't know and that you fully understand each sentence you read. It's annoying and takes time but it's the best way to raise your comprehension.

Don't fuck with making a mining deck until you've been reading consistently for awhile so you can tell which words are common and which are uncommon. Mine only the uncommon words.

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>>145359164
>>145359686
Also, don't forget to 手うが regularly and stay healthy.

>>145359844
Its pretty easy to unintentionally memorize sentences. Its a detrimental crutch.

>>145360104
In my personal experience I rarely come across a word while reading that I don't recognize despite it being a word in my anki deck -- I'm only 4100 sentence cards deep though and a lot of my cards are common words that have no business being cards.

>>145359863
Mnemonics are pretty great for bulk studying kanji.

Once you've recalled the mnemonic 3 to 4 times, your brain will have formed a connection between the visual stimulus and the end result and by that time the mnemonic is not even needed anymore and will begin to fade away.

>>145359863
Anki is a good way to learn kanji because spaced retrieval practice is a good way to learn and doesn't preclude other methods. You don't have to understand everything you read 100% in order to learn.

>>145360637
This is only true if you have something to back up. If you're just looking at the Kanji and then trying to memorize a reading you're honestly just wasting your time. Yes, you'll remember some Kanji doing this but even writing down Kanji 50 times each day would be more effective.

You need to form links in your mind to remember the Kanji. Mnemonic's are the forceful way to make a link and reading is the more natural way.

I advocate reading more just because it also will help you with comprehension as an added bonus. Plus I find creating mnemonics to be annoying.

Do people in the CoR scan manga raws themselves?
Because they usually have much much higher quality than what I can find elsewhere.

Would be interested in where they get it from and how to help.

AAAH IT'S TOO FUCKING COLD
FUCK YOU NORTHERN HEMISPHERE

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Today I will remind them.

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>>145361691

>>145361691
良かった。くそニートだから爆発しなくても済む・・・

>>145361691
何でリア充が嫌いなの？
羨ましがる理由なんてないのに
二次元の女の子のほうがずっといいから

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リア充になりたい
ニート生活が嫌いだ　

>>145361275
Yeah it got pretty cold tonight,

>>145361969
二次元の女の子はちんぽをしゃぶられない

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Reply with the best anime on this list, will watch the first 3 anime named

Will report back on how bad they were once I'm done watching

>>145362131
The only one of those I watched was Tales of the Abyss and I can't even remember a thing.

>>145362131
英語を読まられないんだよ

>>145362241
>読まられない
日本語も書けないらしい

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>>145362728

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>努力を努力とは
Can one of you guys help me out with this? I'm not sure what it's supposed to mean.

>>145362819
ジャガイモ殿
其方すでに眼が

>>145362828
天才 who does not think 努力 is 努力

>>145362131
Hadashi no Gen

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>>145363486
Thanks, m8.

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夜道を横切る白黒いヤツ

>>145359863
>>145361170
I've been using Anki to learn Kanji and vocab, and I've personally found it to be a good way to learn. I add 20 words a day, and for every new word I encounter, I write it down in my notebook. That way, I can look up any word I've covered. I also use H-doujins as reading practice, so I do get to see the Kanji used in context as well. If I encounter a word I've covered but forgotten, I look in my notebook.

>>145359863
I have a kanji deck and a Core deck both studied separately and then grammar for the rest of the day

Plan on reading when I finish tae kim


There no reason why you can do it all endless your lazy.

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おにいちゃんのどかわいた

おみずのみたい

I thought が, ぎ, ぐ, げ, and ご were all pronounced with a "g" sound like in gorilla, but some of the voice recordings in the core 2k deck don't really sound like that. They sound more like a back of the throat "n" sound like in "sing". Is that how it should be pronounced or is it like a dialect?

>>145366344
The one that really confuses me is 動く（うごく） but it sounds like they're saying うもく.

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>>145366243
はい
どうぞ

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>>145366344
>>145366493

ive learned to accept that if i was going to speak nip to a native i was going to sound like a retard anyway

just match as close as possible, not that its going to matter. you have to have a singers ear or be very good at impersonation to unfuck your accent

>>145346281
what the fuck, I thought his last name was Nagashima, Nishimura doesn't work as a Nagasaki joke at all

>>145366344
I wouldnt know about the gorilla sound but

I thought it was げ (Geh) but I hear the (n) as well for some reason would like to clear this up as well.

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昨夜は僕の陰毛をやっと剃ったんだ。うおお！気持ちいいぞ。やってみろ　

>>145346281
Does Namasensei actually post here?

>>145362131
I've seen Scryed, Tales of the Abyss, and Akane-iro. I hated Scryed, Tales was okay, and Akane-iro was probably okay but I can't remember. I've seen the Hana Yori Dango drama, but I never knew it had an anime too.

Why are you choosing from that list?

>>145366899
Yeah, what's up bitch?

>>145366932
I stopped my studies a couple years ago but I still watch your shitty videos
I know this isn't you though, bitch.

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>>145366620
どくでうごけなくなったところをいたづらするきでしょ

えろどうじんみたいに！

>>145366932
dont drink so much, or if you have to, wait 3 days for your liver to clear

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>>145366917
It's a list of stuff I've been recommended before or thought look interesting

Downloading these for now. Might have to download the 38gb tales torrent if the current one doesn't pick up speed.
These should keep be busy for a week, thanks

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Could someone please tell me what this says? It's supposed to be a flavor of curry. I've got 味 but I'm having a hard time getting the 2nd kanji. I tried drawing it but my IME thinks I'm typing 僧...

>>145354558
bet angel beats snuck up on his ass...
Its a world designed and made in code

>>145367645
味噌?

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>>145367757
The 2nd kanji looks different though doesn't it?

>>145367878
http://kakijun.jp/page/so14200.html

>>145367980
Wow. They're the same thing? What's the point in that?

Anyway thanks for the help.

>>145368034
To make it harder for バカ外人 to learn Japanese.

>>145367005
いや、優しいお兄ちゃんだから飲んでくだださい

今日も中国語を勉強しましょう

Why is よ sometimes used instead of は?

From some shows I've been watching
>(Jojo) 時よ止れ
>(火花) 男よ泣くな

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>>145368713
Try a dictionary

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ツイッターでいじめなんてばかりだよ。怖すぎる

>>145368525
いいかげんにしろ

>>145369140
いい加減にしない
俺を止めることはもやは、誰にも出来ないだろう

>>145368713

を

>>145359863
You can do the whole mnemonic dance and song with kanji you see in core/mining deck just fine, RTK or an isolated kanji decks are completely redundant and keywords in English are a hindrance.

>>145361170
Writing a kanji 50 times would take like 3 times longer than just failing that card 50 times in anki,
and I don't believe anyone in this thread actually failed his worst of leeches this many times.
All it does is increasing the amount of time you look at the kanji, reading would be a better time investment.
Write it once if you feel it's helping.

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「俺もどこかで、聞いた事がある。　確か、冥府に古くから伝わっている曲だよな？」

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Do you do core + your mining deck or just one

>>145370776
Just one but I had to relearn a lot of 2k words cause I didn't do the reviews after I stopped

How do you reset a deck?

>>145370776
I did my core while doing my mining deck, I just couldn't leave it incomplete.

So I followed DJT's advice and downloaded Anki, but I'm not studying with it. Instead I'm using the example sentences to mine for new words. Has anyone else tried this? DJT always says to read more, so it seems like a good idea, and will let me avoid all the words everyone says you don't need to know anyways.

>>145370999
Fresh starts are a bad mindset to have. It implies you're seeking for everything to be perfect 'this time', which it realistically won't be. Like people who wait until January 1st to start doing something. Instead of resetting a deck just go through what you did even if you forget a lot.

>>145370999
It's better to not reset -- search the archive for the reasons.

>>145371099
Mining words to what: hand written flash cards or a journal?

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>>145370314
Just for anons who want some practice, don't mind me

「現世に強い未練を残して死んでしまった　人間の魂は、天国へも地獄へも行けず、　この冥府に集められてしまう」


「現世に強い未練を残して死んでしまった　人間の魂は、天国へも地獄へも行けず、　この冥府に集められてしまう」

>>145371327
First line is supposed to be

「俺達の住んでいるこの世界は、　冥府（ネザーワールド）と呼ばれ、　天国と地獄の狭間に存在している世界だとされている」

>>145371291
I just copy and paste them to Firefox and hover over them with Rikaichan. I figure if I do this enough with spaced repetitions, I should learn them.

>>145371192
>>145371220
I'm downloaded a deck someone made. He forgot to reset it.

>>145371399
That sounds like it would be a lot more work to make sure you're getting exposed to the words at reasonable intervals. Why not let anki take care of the spacing?

>>145370776
literally this >>145370898

>>145371548
You could try exporting it and importing it into a new deck?

>>145371373
ネザーって、溶岩とかグロウストーンとかとりにゆくところですよね

>>145371399
So basically a shitty version of Anki?

>>145371399
>guys guys look what I do
good job special snowflake. That's not how SRS works
Guess you just started mining. It's not possible if you mine several thousand words after some time

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>>145371399
Why would you think this is a good idea? Holy shit I don't think I have a reaction image smug enough for this.

>>145371565
>>145371659
>>145371779
>>145371840
You envious?

>>145372113
calm down with the hostility

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After 19 hours, I'm finally at chapter 5. Hopefully my reading speed goes up after a while.

What VN have you read today?

MAARI-SAN WILL BE MINE

I WILL MAKE HER MINE

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>>145372566
check out this monogamous fag

ほかに日本生まれの人いるか？
jap here

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>>145372364
wish i had a windows machine...
running linux usually means no VN without wine or steam. :'(

gif unrelated

>>145372670
Besides being Japanese, you're an Italian dolphin?

>>145372670
みずからジャップってさｗ

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>>145372702
>he fell for the freetard meme

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>>145372364
I've been reading Tonakoi two hours a day for the past week and a half and finally made it onto Nagisa's route. I started it after dropping Hanahira halfway through once it became too easy, and it turns out that it's actually pretty good. The characters interactions and comedy are fairly enjoyable, especially when it comes to Rina. My only complaints so far are that it's low on CG's and the background music is a bit too repetitive (which makes sense since this is apparently a low-budget title). In regards to comprehension, it's not that much harder than Hanahira except when it comes to the grandmother (old people speak) and Katsuhiko (really course and slangy).

>>145372702
I'm running a Windows XP virtual machine in VMWare and it works perfectly fine. Just search the /jp/ archives for a serial code.

What is even the point of Kanji?
Literally do not even need it for anything

I did anki for 45 minutes today and watched anime for 6 hours. learned more from the anime with subs desu

seems the autist is awake and had his morning tendies, ready for a fresh day of shitposting

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お前は僕のことが好きなんて聞いた事あるんだぜ
どうしてだい

>>145373048
What the fuck dude how did you know
I didn't even post yet

>>145373162
ｙｏｕｒ　ｍｕｓｋ　ｉｓ　ｒｅｐｒｅｈｅｎｓｉｂｌｅ, ｓｉｒ

>>145373018
Anime with subs is based. Hearing natives speak the words as you read them is truly 素敵
I just need to commit the ff rw and pause keyboard shortcuts to memory.

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えーだまみー

えーだめみー

えだまめだ、まちがえるな

>>145369816
No, it's よ these are written, not said.

>>145374260
アノンよ聞いてくれ
バカ

俺よ日本

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こじんてきにはね

えだまめよりも、がんまめのほうがおいしいとおもうよ

>understand every individual lesson in tae kim
>be at a loss when confronted by an actual medium length sentence in japanese

dude nice

>>145375388
Japanese grammar is just a meme

すいませんけど日本語苦手なので日常の簡単な会話を教えてくださいます

>>145375489
>ます

>>145375388
Reed moar!!

>>145375489
ふざけんな！
許せないからね！

>>145370314
Same artist who did DL? Is it good?

source please

私はみんなのように日本語を喋りたい

>>145375489
それはあっていますか？

難解思いますね？
excuse any fuck-ups, I'll be goofin shit up every time I type Japanese for a minute.

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Help, they put furigana on the 3, but not on the 1, now I don't know how to pronounce it!

>>145375738
それはわかりました！

the other dude I was like...
だ ファ久するか？
だ ファ久

日本語はとんでもないことだから難しいだと思います

>>145376001
help i just shit but the toilet paper has no instruction manual

>>145376048
the guide will help, dont use 'any translator apps and watch the tae kim videos referenced in the guide...
don't what you don't know.

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What's your favorite Kanji Damage card?

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Fixed OP pic.

>>145376130
You roll it into a cylindrical shape and stuff it up the glans of your penis. This protects the insides of your pantsu until next time you visit the toilet.

>>145376276
What an idiotic system, I feel soiled by just reading this one.

What do moles and daggers have to do with it, though? I mean, why is it red?

>>145376294
I kept reading the book for changes and then I noticed her face. It's unnerving.
>>145376276
Way to make something so simple so complicated and cancerous.

>>145346281
ガイド全部読んだけど日本語を理解できない人が作ったものだと思ういます

タイラーキムも同じようなものだったし

日本語知りたいです・・きりがないミームとかいらないから

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>spend like three months forcing "Leyline is so easy!" for trolling's sake
>get around to reading it
>it's really, really easy

>>145376800
Not sure if you're still trolling or if you really think it's easy

>>145376836
id rank it slightly above something like subahibi personally but below something like flyable heart

>>145376872
Is the story good? Are you having fun reading it?

>>145376836
it's basically as easy as flyable heart, maybe harder if you're not using a texthooker but easier if you are

>>145376836
I've no idea what his retarded greentext story means since it sounds like he was "forcing" a game he hasn't read for whatever reason (he probably just repeated what people who have actually read the game said), but yes Leyline is easy.

>>145376836
it's basically as easy as flyable heart, maybe harder if you dont know japanese but easier if you do

>>145376800
>>145376872
Congrats on reaching N4.

>>145376999
too bad you're still n5 when it comes to making sick burns

>>145377027
Nice try.

>>145377044
自己暗示かな

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>>145376999
I'm sub-N5 though.

>>145376979
>I've no idea what his retarded greentext story means since it sounds like he was "forcing" a game he hasn't read for whatever reason (he probably just repeated what people who have actually read the game said), but yes Leyline is easy.
I'm underselling myself. I recced it way back because someone said they wanted a VN that wasn't otakubait, so I looked for other VNs made by the same people as flyable heart and it was there. I assumed it was going to be hard based on the summary so I recommended it for shits and giggles.

Then someone made picture related and I instantly decided that I should force the idea that it's really easy as often as I can without making it incredibly obvious. About half of the "I just started reading this and wow it's so easy" posts you've seen for the past several months have actually been me. I assumed the others were fellow trolls the entire time.

>>145377070
Maybe actually look up what 自己暗示 means, N4 pal.

>>145377085
The funniest part of this story is how your Japanese is still so shitty after all this time, because you waste all your time shittposting here instead of studying.

>>145377128
Yeah, that's what it is. I really need to do my reps. My japanese is only good enough to watch every other episode of an anime raw, I miss most of what happens if I don't watch the other half of the episodes in english.

>>145377103
im sick of the white people trolling in these threads!!!

>>145377171
Anyone who posts without capital letters is instantly a subhuman as far as I'm concerned. Just saying.

>>145377198
japanese doesnt have capital letters so what are you gonna do

>>145377276
Consider you a shitty subhuman that only studied English vocabulary and would shit himself if he had to speak English to another person in real life.

草www desu, N4 pal

>>145377315
but you dont use capital letters in spoken english either dude

>>145377430
>doesn't voice his capitals
What a loser.

>>145377430
>This is what ESLs actually believe

>>145377455
>>145377543
The funniest thing is this isn't even trolling, native English speakers do put an intonation on capitalised words. It's one of the many reasons listening to an ESL is so unpleasant.

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おにいちゃん

ももたべたい

かってきてー

>>145377653
勝手に買ってろ

>>145377653
いもうさんのももをたべたいなぁ～

>>145377653
I wasn't paying attention to the picture and thought that the little sister was talking in the third person and I was like
>why the fuck is my sister's name momo?

>>145377653
缶詰の桃？キモい！

>>145377951
ムネ肉すきモモ肉ですか
外人は日本人を食べるたいですか？

>>145378072
カップラーメンといい相手だ

>tfw 67.9% retention

>>145378262
install true retention

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>tfw gay

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>>145378262
:)

>>145378289
That episode of Ika is disgusting

Japanese females speaking english is just always ear cancer

>>145378262
Just don't look at your stats, there's no reason to look at them, it's more beneficial to just ignore that they're there

>>145378262
>>145378277
>>145378297
Holy crap, I assumed these were sequential posts and burst out laughing. Too bad.

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>>145378297
heres mine

you should add more steps to failed cards and press again literally every time you get it wrong

>>145378320
personally i just get a huge boner when i hear the disfigured english projecting forth from their tiny mouths that look like a car accident on the inside

>>145378378
>you should add more steps to failed cards
this actually just makes your again count better artificially

only the first three exposures of the day significantly affect retention and anki's default settings guarantee that many as long as you don't hit "easy"

>>145378470
>only the first three exposures of the day significantly affect retention
nah

>>145378517
unless they're like six hours apart, yeah

do you want me to pirate the relevant studies for you

I'll only be able to post them if I don't get caught during the process though

I don't think I'll ever be able to understand people who have a sub 90% retention. To me, it's like saying you're a gibbering retard, even if you don't read anything you should be sitting in the low 90s at least.

>>145378622
I used to be like you, but /djt/ has mindbroken me and now I feel like I'm projecting the moment I talk about my >95% retention even though it's real. I can't even feel proud of it anymore, feels bad.

>>145378622
it's a beginner's problem senpai

i think you're the retard here posting about short term personal experiences like they're meaningful

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>>145378622
For mature cards, yes.
Everything else doesn't matter.

>>145378622
Haha that's right bro we're so dekiru desu ne!

I'm almost 1000 words into core and my retention is through the roof!

>>145378683
retention of young cards affects how quickly cards become mature

in other words it's how much you're actually learning

that's why someone bothered to make true retention, the correct% rate has almost nothing to do with how well you're actually learning but people were treating it like it does

>>145378554
>unless they're like six hours apart
Right, that was what I was aiming for. Seeing the same card 5 times within 20 minutes might not do much, but seeing a card multiple times a day with a few hour intervals works wonders for my retention.

>>145378622
I don't really know what you're getting at. Different people are good at different things, and I would hardly equate being smart with being able to memorize words. It's near guaranteed I'm a whole fucking lot better at math than you are despite the fact I suck at vocab.

>>145378679
I've been hovering around the 95% mark for the past year and a half.

>>145378683
That's more because you're crazy enough to hit "again" on new cards occasionally, but I get where you're coming from.

is there a way to measure retention in real life as opposed to flash cards on the computer or iphone

>>145378772
Yes. Open a book and see how far you come without flipping through a dictionary every sentence.

>>145378755
>That's more because you're crazy enough to hit "again" on new cards occasionally
Why is that crazy?
When I don't know an answer I hit again.

>>145378754
>>I don't really know what you're getting at. Different people are good at different things, and I would hardly equate being smart with being able to memorize words. It's near guaranteed I'm a whole fucking lot better at math than you are despite the fact I suck at vocab.
Get a load of this guy bragging that he can do things with a calculator that have zero relevance to anything!

I'm not saying I'm smart for having a 90%+ retention rate. I'm saying you're fucking dumb as shit if you can't manage rote memorisation through SRS.

>>145378805
All you're really doing is wasting a minute every time you do it. The vast majority of cards I don't recognise, I can recollect just fine in 10 minutes, and then a day, etc. The additional minute step doesn't do anything but make you less efficient, because now you have to look at a new card 3 times instead of twice.

>>145378805
anki's default settings are designed assuming you're not one of those mouthbreathing retards that doesn't realize the learning queue isn't a review queue and hits "again" on shit they literally cannot know yet

the only time you should hit "again" on a brand new card is if you *thought* you knew it, but got it wrong

if you literally know the card already you hit easy

>>145378754
>I don't really know what you're getting at. Different people are good at different things

This, a lot of people can't deal with how monotonous anki is, which results in bad performance no matter what their abilities with the actual language might be

>>145378840
Don't hurt my feelings now. The last thing I want is being called dumb by people on the internet.

>>145378860
what about that guy who posted a few threads ago saying he literally acquires new grammar just from seeing it twice or something but hasn't done anki in months or something because it's too hard or something

i don't remember what he said but it was pretty funny

>>145378840
>>145378859
Okay, well here's how I do it. The first time I see the card I hit good or easy depending on how well it goes, when it shows up again close to the end of the review I hit again until I know it.

I also set my anki steps to 1 10 10

>>145378840
t. idiot who did kanji study and doesn't realize nukemarine's core is going to be really easy for the first 2k words for anyone that the most common kanji

>>145378909
Those aren't new cards though, those are learning queue cards

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>>145378683
>>145378622
And what does it mean when mature cards go below Young?

It wasn't like this before... I still remember my first Mature mistake... it was on the 50° day... those times won't come back.

>>145378927
nothing

it means you're learning better now but you have cards backed up with intervals from when you weren't learning well, so they still have low retention from when you weren't learning well

>>145378927
It means you're being too lax on your young cards.

>>145378925
And my bars for learning showed how often I press again.

I don't see why that other anon assumed I press again on new cards then.

>>145378983
because you do
the leftmost blue bar on your chart shows you pressing again on new cards
don't do that

>>145378996
That's the learning bar, not only new cards.

>>145379024
shows how smart i am
i'm not the person who initially assumed he presses again on new cards btw

>>145378942
Makes sense, I spend the first three months always hitting Easy on cards I remembered - now I do it only with Engrish loan words.

Also I'm currently undergoing a low kanji experience, two weeks and only 3 kanji learned because they keep giving me old kanjis combined in new ways.

I'd rather have a deck where they'd space kanjis evenly, so there wouldn't be cramming months and walk on the beach ones.

>>145378952
What does that mean? I just hit the right buttons, blame ANKI.

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Today I will start anki again.

Wish me luck!

>>145379590
Are you doing all 3000 or you just put it at a pretty big number in order to study to your heart's content?

I may wish you luck, yes, because there's no way this is going to work without it.

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>>145379590

>>145379590
I think the fear of this happening to me is enough motivation to never miss a day of Anki.

>>145379698
I think I'm gonna do 200 a day until it's back down to an acceptable amount, then enable new cards again.

3272 is the number of actually due cards since anki doesn't show anything beyond 1000+

Man I'm so awful at remembering readings

>Read and listen to stuff more!
I've been doing that every day for over a year now

>Do kanji study!
I've already done that too

Anything else I can do to help me with how useless I am with readings?

>>145380006
Concerta

>>145380006
speak more

>>145380006
Having done kanji study is the reason you're bad now.

>>145380006
Read the kanji in reverse order when reviewing words to force yourself to pay attention to the pronunciation.

For example, say you were reviewing the word 今週
Instead of just こん･しゅう and moving on. Look at them in reverse order and say
週-しゅう, 今-こん
This seriously improves retention of pronunciation in my experience.

>>145380202
That actually sounds like it could have potential, I'll try it out, thanks anon-coon

視覚障害者誘導用ブロック

good word to know, make sure you have it in your mining deck

>>145380328
>mining self-explanatory words

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>>145380328
歩道の黄色の凸凹タイルのことだよね

正しい名前をいわれてもぴんとこないよ

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>>145380202
I don't get it.

>>145380328
>>145380414
Tangentially related, but fucking cyclists in Japan. They always use the walkway, it's total chaos. Walkways in Tokyo are narrow as shit.

I already complained about this to several Japanese people and was told that according to traffic rules cyclists should use the normal road for cars. But noone fucking does.

So protip, once you come to Japan, be wary of cyclists.

>>145380006
Practice production? Try and find the words in a particular context.

I know that I can easily remember words I've seen in text or I've heard in anime along with the context they were said in.

>>145380328
Wait those bumpy titles were for the blind? I thought they were do with people on bikes.

>>145380328
>ブロック
They put those kana just out of spite, didn't they?

>>145380567
>be wary of cyclists
Do that in whatever city you are in.

>>145380567
But what if I want to listen to music while walking?
I won't hear the ringring!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7oGk-ozhKI

>>145380567
Japan has a lot of bikers but it has no biking infrastructure in most places. Bikers hitting people on sidewalks is less common and less dangerous than card hitting bikes on the road where the biking lanes are breakdown lanes, so they just do it. A lot of drivers intentionally endanger bicyclists because they think it's not that dangerous and want to annoy the bicycler for taking up roadspace.

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Anyone had problems buying Kindle books on Amazon? Looks like an issue with my country's copyright mafia.

>>145380711
sup finny

>>145380711
Get VPN.

>>145380701
Watch for the shadows from behind you.

Obviously this only works during certain times of day. Tbh just today I was going home and suddenly I saw a shadow of a bike on the road before me. Especially old people can ride those bike silently.

>>145380711
Afaik you need to set a random Japanese address to your account page

I also heard you need a Japanese kindle to even read the books but no idea if that's true.

>>145380567
You say that but the police really crack down on it.
I will say this too, if you are a foreigner and riding a bike be prepared to be stopped every so often and asked for ID, if you are unlucky you will taken to the station and might even stay in a cell for a couple of days because you are a foreigner and therefore suspicious.

>>145380704
Cyclists are a fucking nuisance both on the road and sidewalks. Fucking idiots should just buy a goddamn car.

>>145380734
>>145380778
Thanks, I'll try these. I don't have a kindle but it should work with the free kindle app you can download on amazon jp.

>>145380802
I don't ride a bike myself. I'm on the victim side, i.e. pedestrians. And never ever I have seen any policeman stop any Japanese person riding a bike on the walkway.

And I was never ever stopped by a police when I just walked around. Stop watching Ryanboundless.

>>145380826
Drivers are a fucking nuisance both on the road and on the internet. Fucking idiots should just kill themselves.

Yes, I realize that means most of the first world population. I still mean it.

No, I don't bike. You people are just fucking cunts.

>>145380826
>this post was sponsored by Trump

>>145380857
>Doesn't drive a car
>Doesn't drive a bike
So you walk everywhere?

>>145380898
There's this thing called public transport.

>>145380826
Cars are a gigantic nuisance to a bunch of aspects of life, just because everyone has one doesn't mean they're good

>>145380898
No, I take public transport.

>>145380898
not him, but my guess is public transport.

cars are really only useful in rural areas.

>>145380911
>>145380925
That's nice. I wish I had public transport where I live. You have to have a car to get anywhere.

>>145380898
>>145380911
>>145380925
>>145380928

アメリ脂 btfo

>>145380928
>cars are really only useful in rural areas.
>tfw can't do anything without a car
I envy the Japanese public transport system so much.

>>145380567
Brazilian here. I have been forced many times to bike BETWEEN cars and our sidewalks are mostly shit even for pedestrians to use, so they also end up taking a bit of the road edges sometimes. I'm pretty used to sharing lanes with everything, from buses to baby strollers. So Tokyo seems like a walk on the cake or whatever.

Also these monkeys are pretty common (Slipknot warning):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hryUT_g7jq0

>>145380961
I'm from Europe and I use public transport a lot myself though. It's just that it's not always possible or convenient to go everywhere with public transport.

>>145380898
>cyclists are the worst
>drivers are the worst
>Walkers are the worst

I guess shitposting gets boring when it is always about Japanese so you need to mix it up with retarded arguments.

>>145380911
Americans don't have decent public transport, I have a friend who lives in Texas and they are basically stranded in the middle of nowhere without a car.

>>145381032
i basically walk the extra distance when it comes to public transport, even if takes half an hour

>>145381031
Sorry to be so blunt pal, but Brazil I see as a chaotic 3rd world shithole, so chaos is to be expected. In Tokyo I expected better.

>>145381053
>even if takes half an hour
I often walk instead of using the public transport because I don't feel like paying 2€ for what is equivalent to a 15 minute walk.

>>145381166
I don't think anyone takes public transport for 15 minute walks anon.

>>145381206
I would on campus if I were feeling lazy, but that's because I can use public transport for free and on campus there are buses every 5 minutes.