What are your honest thoughts about fan service in anime, /a/?

If done right, it's just the thing to help me rub one out.

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I think there's tasteful and then there's LOOK AT THIS ASS LOOK LOOK LOOK

>>144964953
Boku no Baka

Usually pretty cancerous honestly.

>>144964751
I'm not a fan.

>>144964751
Don't mind it. Keeps the prudes out.

>>144964751
Fine with it if infrequent.
Hate it if it's constant.

>>144964844
>I think there's tasteful and then there's LOOK AT THIS ASS LOOK LOOK LOOK
Yeah, but sometimes they can overdo it so much it becomes amusing instead of annoying.

I like it when it's used sparely, makes it more memorable.

>>144964751
It's good and people who dislike it should probably just find another hobby.

A powerful instrument used by several anime series to compensate for terrible story, idiotic characters and/or horrible pacing. For example: the monogatari series.
When used lighly is not that bad. When the entire show depends on it, its completely disgusting.

>>144964751
I don't really care it either ways.
It doesn't bother me, but since there isn't any real sexual ones of lolis, I don't like it either.

Its service for me so I like it

>>144964751
every anime need more fanservice.

>>144964751
I hate all fanservice

>>144964751
Its distracting, if I want to masturbate I just go straight to porn, watching fanservicy shows sounds like a waste of time for me

Fanservice is the life blood of anime.

>>144964751
Depends on the show. If I decide to watch a shlocky comedy/Harem/ecchi/whatever, yeah, sure. If I'm watching Shonenshit, I know it's to be expected. It's when it breaks into kther genres/shows up in shows randomly that it's annoying.

>>144964953
Either Rin x Sen, Ran -> Sem or Rin x Sen + Ran -> Sem

Yes, these are actually the titles.

>>144965691
same here dog

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It needs to have just the right amount of saturation. Not so much that the other elements of the story are muddled by it, but just enough that you get a sense of cuteness and maybe even a more adult sense of slight lewdness from it. Humans are intrinsically sexual creatures, it's important to treat it with reverence and respect.

>>144964953
no its sauce, specifically ypgurt

>>144964751
Can drown out the show

its funny to see a little thrown in

>>144964844
>>144965334
>>144965541
Pretty much this. Use it once or twice and at the right moment, it's gets a hearty chuckle. Use it every other scene and your just using a stale running gag.

>>144965274
This, the more normalfag and casual deterrent laced into our anime, the better. This is why loli and incest service should be especially embraced and supported regardless of one's personal taste.

>>144964751
If she's not going to get fucked through every hole, do not tease me.

What constitutes fan service is somewhat ill-defined. It's one of those 'you know it when you see it' things

It helps the writers so they don't have to think about a story to tell, if an anime focuses more about naked waifus over an actual plot, it's shit.

>>144964844
Yeah Konosuba does it right.

Fanservice is everywhere. Be it in mecha, in guns, in homages, in actual cute grills, in callbacks, etc.

To hate fanservice is a disservice to yourself as a fan.

>>144965632
/thread

>>144965687
>>144965691
>>144965632
>A story revolving on fanservice, probably better than most of your collection.

Yeah, IDK why so mad about it, a good taste of it is fine. Abuse it and it is still fine, just dont expect to be taken seriously.

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>>144966469
Shit, forgot pick.

>>144966469
>>144966557
>IDK
>pick
Go back to facebook and then kindly kill yourself.

If it involves cowtits, then it's disgusting. Too many scenes of that and I'm too repulsed to even continue watching.

>>144967873

Hello gay Lord.

How are you doing tonight??

Fanservice should be an accessory and not a selling point. Thats something many dumbasses here dont realize, and call names to people who dont want 90% of the episodes being lewds shots. If you really want to fap to your anime, go watch hentai or go to sadpanda you fucks.

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>>144968449
Things that once were childish insults to me are now honorary titles.

>>144965900
KonoSuba does it right though, because it plays the gag completely deadpan. Literally no one in the show ever mentions it, even the MC doesn't give the slightest hint that he notices or cares.

>>144964751
Fine in theory but it gets massively overused and in general is done in such a way that kind of undercuts the plot. Like, in KLK there were story reasons for the fanservice and those story reasons helped us learn about. And then Satsuki's mom started molesting and it just turned into retarded pandering.

>>144966010
Pretty much this. Almost everything is pandering.

>>144964751
Depends on the show. Some shows it's the only good thing, and it ruins others.

Mostly the latter. Ladies vs Butlers was actually pretty good. Such a shame

>>144969128
such a shame the fan service ruined it, i meant

>>144966010
you know full well which fan service people are referring to.

It's so overused and unnecessarily sometimes.

Do lewd scenes have to be present to sell anything? I doubt it.

>>144964751
most of the time it is just needless distraction,but it can also be used as a form to present humor (prison school)

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>>144964751
Well, try comparing rosario vampire manga to the anime adaptation.
One had fan service, the other was nothing but. See which one bothers you more.
It really depends on the show, it's best applied in comedy and/or shows geared towards horny 13 year olds. I'm still autistic enough to fap to it at 26 anyway.
TLDR: It's usually a part of the kind of show it's in, not a distraction from it unless its in an out of place lengthy scene of its own in an otherwise story rich setting.

>>144964751
Depends on the show and genre, there are shows that use it well and some other that go overboard with it, in general i like fanservice as long as it goes with the anime theme and/or if there's a purpose to it.

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>>144964751
Mostly garbage, but occasionally good if you have people with an iota of talent working on the show.

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>>144964751
It can be as fanservice-y as it wants so long as there are still aspects about the show that I like. Eventually it just stops phasing me

Not enough fanservice these days, especially loli fanservice.

I can stand just about everything except the "accidentally falls and gropes/ogles/rimjobs a girl".

>>144964751

Should be a thing you have in a series now and then purely as a service to viewers.

Shouldn't be a full on genre because it kills the fucking appeal of what it is.

Having an entire show around boob presses and panty shots is fucking stupid. But it sells like crazy.

>>144964751
If it's in a series that obviously isn't meant to be taken seriously, I don't mind it. However, if done for no reason and jammed in awkwardly just to sell it to hormonal teenagers, then it can ruin a show completely. *cough* k project *cough*

>>144965909
But not if it replaces quality. If an artist wants to express sexual ideas in their art, however controversial, they should be allowed to. It's when sex is used as a way to sell media and interferes with artistic expression that I take issue with it. Sadly, this happens all too often in the industry.

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>>144964751
I don't give a fuck the more fanservice it has, the more happier my dick is. Sometimes it does get annoying though.

>>144969990
when your tl:dr is roughly the same length as what you already said, it's not necessary.

Section 474.19 of Australia's criminal code is what I think about fanservice, to be honest.

>>144964844
The asses were nice but the floppy titties were a bit distracting.

>>144965900
>chuckle
>gag
What? Why is fanservice suddenly comedy? Or are you talking about a specific kind of fanservice?

Pointless

>>144970853
>*action*
Fucking kill yourself back to MAL.

>>144964751
Absolutely necessary, both because it's good to have at least one thing out there that knows about our dicks and because it's useful to have a normalfag deterrent in an entertainment medium. Just look at how many people tend to call lewdness a "needless distraction", having a way to instantly find out whether someone's opinions have any value or not like this is amazing.

>>144971017
You speak like a pretentious faggot who's implying that quality and sexuality are exclusive to each other.

>>144964844
I don't mind the odd ass or titty shot, or whatever else, as long as there aren't retarded pratfall shit like in TLR (which is fine for TLR, because it's a silly series, but I can't help but feel it's cheap in most other series).

Good fanservice can often come from the official art, at that.

>>144972133
He didn't say they were exclusive dude, just that sexuality can't replace quality.

You can have
quality/sexuality
no quality/sexuality
quality/no sexuality
no quality/no sexuality

Sadly the industry thinks sexuality will make it up for the lack of quality, and hormonal horny teenagers will buy it anyway so it works.

Granting me visual intimacy with characters is part of making me feel closer to them.

>>144970664
That shit's true to life.

Don't tell me you've never walked around with an erection and fell dick-first onto some girl's ass, happens all the time.

I'm no longer on the level where my brain even registers a mere panty shot. Wow, someone has an ass, I never knew

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>>144970173
That looks straight out of hentai.

>>144964751
Its what Anime is about, the core and essense of it.

>>144971121
TLDR

>>144964751
Don't like it. It is too mild for my tastes and when it gets "hard" it still is weak.
Latest example: Monster Musume. Couldn't get past episode 2. The icecream blowjob scene is pathetic, so is the nipple rubbing.
I don't get aroused by this weak faggot shit so it is just me sighing 20 times per episode, couldn't even laugh.

tl;dr fanservice is cancerous, can't stand it even on fanservice series, let alone when forced in a random one.

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Hahahaha, this is the future of /a/.

>>144964751
Generally most of fanservice is just a blatant BOOBS IN YO FACE instead of being erotic or having sexual tension. If I just wanted lewd images, I could get thousands of those in few seconds on any booru, filtered to match my tastes.
The epitome of that are sudden close-ups to oversized, disproportional tits in stupidly skimpy clothing, jiggling annoyingly for no reason. It just screams LOOK, BOOBS! BOOOOOOBS!, stripping entire scene from any feminine charm. Obnoxiousness just kills the boner.

Even some heavier ecchi, where MC is forced to molest girls, lack any chemistry. It's just a passive girl moaning and reluctant guy doing mechanical job to hit his daily quota. No "they want each other" vibes, no passion, no emotions, no focus on characters, just bland softcore porn. It's repetitive, it gets boring.

Since everyone is a faggot in anime realm and properly portrayed making out/foreplay/sex are harder to find than unicorns, the best kind of service you can hope to get is some a bit more subtle, seductive scene.

>>144964751
I like it. If someone doesn't like fan service then don't watch that anime.

>>144976214
>the best kind of service you can hope to get is some a bit more subtle, seductive scene.
Pretty much this, or if not subtle, at least rooted in character and story.
Best I can think of are White Album 2 and Yosuga no Sora. While the ecchi scenes are hot, they're also conveying character information and story progression.

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>>144964751
I am absolutely against it, mainly because this harlot kept promising it week after week, with almost no delivery whatsoever.

>>144976167
What the fuck

>>144964751
Unless it's the whole point of the show or played for laughs / shenanigans, I'm against it, because most of the times it's just tits / ass in your face in a really tasteless and obstructing way that doesn't fit the mood, characters and show.

It still doesn't come close to having sex with a real child. Sexualize animated girls all you want but all it will do is just get you in the mood.

>>144964844
>tasteful
More like shit taste

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>>144964751
I'm ok with that.
I am not an feminist nor an Pat Robinson.

>>144964751
>What are your honest thoughts about fan service in anime
It's shit.

>>144976167
/a/ is dead

>>144977757
Why are you even watching anime then?
Anime is synonymous with fanservice

I like it.

>>144977803
I'm not

>>144971708
Because the use of it is so pathetic it's hilarious. And we can't help but laugh at the fact that you morons keep falling for it as good content.

>HURR DURR HOT ANIME TIDDIES
>this is the only way to sell something in our time
>these retards keep falling forever for this shit
It's your fault too, /a/.

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I want tumblr puritans to leave.

>>144978163
>fanservice anime sells
What universe am I in right now?

>>144978287
Please show us proof it doesn't

>>144978318
Check out a sales thread sometime, bud.

>>144978318
>prove me wrong
www.someanithing.com/

>>144978286
>Cathotards go on tumblr
>Tumblr doesnt survive solely because of porn
Easy boogeyman you got there. Even something as generic as reddit would have been more on point.

>>144978286
Why is she covered in hollandaise sauce? Is this from that cooking show?

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>>144978507
Playing dumb doesn't help your case when people already know the differing demographics of the site. I still want tumblr puritans to leave.

>>144978571
Yes. It's a show about cooking beef stroganoff and Kanade cookies.

>>144977803
Not all anime is synonymous with fan service. I don't remember much of it in Mushishi for example.

Usually is just a bonus for me. If there is none i don't care, if it happen i just enjoy it.

>>144977956
Why are you even here then?
Get the fuck out if you're gonna say something like "I dont even like anime I just come here to shitpost" and it better be something like "I only read manga or VN" even if theyre no different than anime in terms of fanservice

>>144978879
Of course its not present in pure anime and serious/deepmature anime, but theyre exceptions not the norm

I can understand when people don't like when is out of place. Like there is a battle between gundams and out of nowhere pop out a pole dancer that start masturbating and shooting vagina lasers everytime she climax.
But i cringe when become obsessive, there is a lot of people that make the main deal of an anime/manga out of rare pantyshot, a female character dressed girly in summer clothes or simply having big boobs, and other small things.
And i hate when people hate ecchi manga/anime for being fanservice. They are ecchi for fuck sake! Of course they have fanservice. Would you hate Naruto cause there is too many jutsus? A sport manga wasting too much time and panels on games and trainings?

>>144964751
I like fanservice, but fanservice alone is not enough to carry a series, it needs something more either romance, action or comedy, just service alone doesn't workl

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>>144979503
Sometime is the opposite.
The story and the action are so boring and uninteresting you would wish the series would be just more focused on ecchi.

>>144979613
More like the little yuri dominator should have her own spinoff making bitchs outta every girl she sees.

>>144979498
stop fapping to my waifu

>>144979070
I'm not sure I care for the norm then I try not to watch too many derivative things with mild titilation unless it's the actual point of the show.

High School Of the Dead was pretty amusing many other things like it were eh.

>>144979613
>Badass edgy shonen MC
>action
>no nakama crap everywhere
>heavy fanservice
>power up by sucking boobs
>good drawing style
>edgy and gory enough
>badass fights
Why is this manga so fucking boring and uninteresting? There is basically everything needed to make the greatest masterpiece ever created.

>>144979853
It's not real. It's just used so you can visualize sex with a middle schooler or your niece again.

Most fanservice fails to be sexual the same way stories and direction fail. That's the problem.

I'm not aroused by badly drawn juggling boobs or closeup of panties (that look like there's thickest pad on the market inside, ffs) if there is no connection to character and other chemistry —13 year old boys may argue wit that, so the anime is marketed to them. On the contrary, the question whether Imaishi shows so much skin in KLK because he likes to fap, or because it's symbolic (or both), is of secondary importance to the fact it fits in that case.

>>144964751

Pointless most of the time if it's 'viewer only'. Aggravating if it's accidental 'ecchi pervert kyaa'. Sex scene are fine and tend to serve a purpose. I just don't normally watch battle harems/tits'n'ass with clothes ripping inexplicably anymore.

I prefer the teasing, if intentional by characters, to lead to something.

>>144979498
> Isn't it just a legal replacement for otherwise illegal content?

a) Shithole countries consider both cases “illegal”.
b) With the help of internet, you can get both pretty easily.

>>144980140
Clothing destruction is best fanservice.
But i admit it kinda fail in serious settings, is much better in over the top scenario like "Keijo", that is not about clothing destruction but give a good idea of the kind of setting were this kind of fanservice work better.

>>144980200
I don't mess with the Internet that much. I just get it from friends or make it myself when I go into the city for sex tourism

>>144980271
Wasn't there a scene in Revolutionary Girl Utena where she was fighting and her clothes were getting shredded?

>>144976167
>>144977764
>thinks giving source is a new thing
lel

>>144980470
Dunno is in my "to watch list" from forever...
Thanks for reminding me. I'm gonna download the show for real this time.

>>144980397
Just don't meet with other congressmen when doing that, then that's OK.

>>144980470
Too bad all of the action in Utena sucks.

I used to enjoy watching SoL anime with my little sister, but now every anime feels the need to include random fanservice and an imouto love interest, so there's barely anything we can watch together
fanservice ruined anime

>>144980569
It taken me ten years to get around to watching Death Note. There are somethings you just get down to.

>>144980696
Good soundtrack and highly enjoyable characters though, I'll take that.

>>144980714
>now
Most anime is aired late night and hence not meant to be watched with someone else.
You are literally a retard and a newfag too if you think fanservice 'ruined' anime, neverminding the fact that its been present in it since forever.

When the plot becomes an excuse for fanservice and the characters have to perform a 180 for it, I drop the show instantly.

In case character design and camera angles are of suggestive nature for no apparent reason I'll tolerate it.

If it's well-directed, in-character and actually makes sense (in terms of plot or comedy) for it to be there.

>>144980656
I am the owner of a 6 man fence company. Oh, did a congressman just get in trouble? I once saw Ralph Nader with a bunch of underage boys fawning over him and he feeling them up on a plane once. If that counts any...

>>144980824
Good show overall, it's just kind of disappointing to have 3-5 minutes of stock footage every episode and then having the fights be incredibly short, always end in the same stock footage attack, and have non-existent choreography.

And they don't even have bad animation, they just got lazy and didn't bother to make any actual fights. One character swings for a bit and then Utena wins in one attack. Repeat thirty or so times.

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>>144964751
It's great.

>>144980930
I remember wondering how much money was saved with the walking up the steps and the bell ringing.

Every year, anime fans wonder why Japanese animation isn’t being taken more seriously by critics. I get it; in 2016 alone, just look at the blend of history and tradition in Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju, the Ghibli-esque magical realism of Flying Witch, or the animation spectacle of Mob Psycho 100 to glimpse the versatility and sophistication anime has to offer. Why is unexceptional western television given valuable print space while exceptional anime is not?

And then the otaku shrug their shoulders and go back to conversations about who the best girl is, whose waifu is trash, and how irrational anyone must be to stop watching a show as soon as female characters show some T&A.

Here’s a thought: maybe critics would be more enthusiastic if the face of anime weren’t pro-Gamergate, anti-Ghostbusters trolls. I wonder how many people who were once neutral towards anime have developed an instinctive aversion to it, associating anime girls with anonymous entitlement?

Here’s another thought: maybe that’s not unfair. Maybe becoming the visual of choice for misogynistic harassers is the unsurprising result of a fandom that has spent years normalizing the objectification of women.

It's not anime if it doesn't have fanservices.

>>144980930
Action in Utena happens in space of wills and ideas. Were you expecting lasers and explosions? Duel buildup is for viewer to reflect on them (if they have the ability).

Pffft, I forgot how *normal* people can be.

Barely ok with it. I feel like fan service lowers the quality of the show than making it any better. There are times where it's somewhat needed like
>jiggling tits while running
>ass hip movements
Then there are times like
>YOOO LOOK AT DIS ASSS
>AY BRO I HEARD YOU LIKE TITS, SO HERE SOME BIG FAT NAKED TITS IN YO FACE
>MY BOY, YOU LIKE SELF INSERT NTR??? WELL HERES THE MC TRIPPING AND FALLING AND SOMEHOW SLIPPED HIS HANDS UNDER HER BRA!
>CLASSIC RIGHT?!!!!!
It gets stupid and blatant and just devolves to being nothing but, this rather than having a story that you stayed for.

>>144981423
Clickbait article for > glamour geek crowd.

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>>144981423

I recognize that article.

>>144981575
Easy there Ikuhara, he was just pointing out the stock footage and lack of flair.

Utena's show and don't tell is stellar and I should say so in the other thread.

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>>144981625
Please, don't feed the feminazi.

Depends on the series. If it just exists for raunchy humour and fanservice (i.e. Monster Musume) it's fine. I don't have to watch it if I'm not into that. If it gets shoved into a show that is more serious way too often, it becomes annoying and distracting.

Examples for shows where fanservice is a-ok:
Monogatari
Monster Musume
Fairy Tail

You get the gist. As long as it's not used to mask a shitty plot with shit characters and horrible pacing I'm fine with it.

I see it as a necessary part of the business because appealing to teenagers is the only way they get their monies.
Plus if there's too many men in any show I start to think its fujoshit.
I think /a/ tends to like shows which are more fun and light like trigger shows or the beboptype fags who think everything that they didn't watch when they were thirteen is terrible. Either way, I don't think /a/ cares about pantyshots and I think thats a horrible thing because pantyshots are the soul of anime.

>>144964751
i love all types of fanservice

especially because it triggers virtue-signalling people

>>144981878
Yep. This is what make me enjoy fanservice the most.
I usually don't even notice it, but the SJ/fedora rage give it a nice flavour.

Would most animu merchandise survive without fanservice?

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>>144976666
You should have known this, Super Satan.

>>144972935

All media panders. Just the manner that comes into question. I expect sex and some form of titillation from porn, I do not expect it from a series billed otherwise. It can be an issue in adaptions were the original did not have that kind on content, but now for sales reasons does.

You'd expect lewd behaviour on screen to also lead to something with the characters. Why does the viewer get a magical camera in the shower/dressing room slowly pan up the character? They are not doing anything related to the plot, this is 1-5 minute scene for what purpose? To sell the product to the viewer. Inserting it in a way the makes sense contextually is key.

As others said, if I was after porn/softcore I'd watch that material, hentai/doujin etc. Not normally wanting a series to incorporate softcore ecchi with teases that don't fucking lead to anything. Blue balls sucks.

>>144964751
If it's meant to be an ecchi, it should be nearly constant. Otherwise, it should be often but not glaring.

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>>144976666

Why is fanservicve = tits and ass?
Isn't fanservice supposed to be something else? Like references to something fans love or something

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>>144965443
In cases like HSotD the sheer tastelessness was practically elevated into an artform while still keeping it sexy, I have to respect that even if the writing was shit. That bath scene, as stupidly tongue in cheek as it was, was so hot I had to pause for a fap break.

>>144981708
Fairy Tale's on that list?

Why?

>>144983761
It encompasses all, they just like focusing on tits and ass. Or its the only thing that can fuel a couple of (you)s

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I really liked the Strike Witches approach to fanservice.