I would just like to inform you that there are people out there

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>>144457292

KA KA

>>144457292
Y-you just don't understand the symbolism

I love it.

What exactly is wrong with it that would make others "attack" it?

>>144457292
I don't see the problem here.

Looks like a really nice way to bath.

What could it mean!?

>>144457417
Even people who like some of the writing in monogatari are totally fine with admitting it has blatant fanservice. Also Araragi and Shinobu actually had a pretty decent talk during this scene to boot. One of the few moments of decent characterization during Nise.

>>144457292
>god tier fanservice
>unironically great character development at the same time
What's there to attack?

>>144457292
>another show that tried to be deep but failed

>my morals won't allow me to enjoy a scene/show

How cuck'd are you? I could understand the need to keep up a face for public, but when you're by yourself, why do you limit your imagination and your attractions and your desires?

Shinobu could have been god tier if she had red eyes (which is like a fucking rule for vampires, seriously what the fuck)

Who the fuck gives his characters the same eye and hair colour? It looks fucking shit.

>>144457682
I'm glad you will never be a character designer

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>>144457682
How can you not like these eyes?

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>>144457682
There can only be so many Gilgamesh/Arcueid clones m8

Would have been so much better if he had a bath with snail instead.

>>144457908
ONOREEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>144457917
Snail is not for sexualizing

>>144457682
> Who the fuck gives his characters the same eye and hair colour?
The death-prepared, death-inevitable, death-certain vampire, Deathtopia Virtuoso Suicide-Master. Kissshot's master

>>144457908
Muh

>>144457417
But there actually was symbolism.
You want to pull that card on the toothbrush scene.

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>>144457292
It is their first conversation after Kizu ending. It's actually very important for plot and characters development

>>144458944
I love the vampire names in Monogatari.

I want to drink her bathwater

https://aww.moe/e9ia38.webm
Meme and Kissshot are doing commentary for Kizu 1.

>>144459485
I want to be her bathwater

>>144459626
I bath her to be want water

>>144457292
those feet.

"what does it mean???"

>>144457292
It was important for the plot.

>>144459196
Better face, helmet, and character interpretation. Worse feet and legs.

>>144459594
This is another one of the commentaries I'm going to have to listen to in Japanese even though I'll only understand 5% of it.

There is nothing likeable about Araragi.

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>>144457292
>gif

"On the dirt floor.
Bubbling and simmering a pot on the blazing hearth.
Wearing an apron over modest Western clothes, cooking for herself; she didn’t seem princess-like, but…
There were no words for the beauty of that face in profile.
It made my tongue ache anyway."

I love Kissshot more and more.

Are people seriously rustled over a 598 year old hag like Shinobu?

>>144457671
This. I was raised by fucking Southern Baptists, and I can't understand why so many people nowadays have adopted their mindset with no religion enforcing it. Shinobu and Hachikuji aren't sexy, but their teasing and flirting with Araragi are funny and his reactions aren't unrealistic for a horny kid his age.

>>144461031
>Shinobu and Hachikuji aren't sexy
Get out.

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>>144461031
>Shinobu and Hachikuji aren't sexy
I could maybe understand Hachikuji, but Shinobu? No.

>>144461262
>>144461218
It might be hard to understand but some people aren't attracted to underage girls.

>>144461031
>Shinobu and Hachikuji aren't sexy
I see your religious brainwashing still has a grip on you.

>>144457292
It's my 2nd favorite scene from Nise.

>>144461429
Whats first?

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>>144461218
>>144461262
I'm not that kind of dirty old man, I prefer girls obviously at the height of their fertility.

>>144461307
>600 year old
>underaged

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>>144461307
>598
>21
>underage

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>>144461006
Yes, totally without a doubt.

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>>144463559
It's perfectly reasonable to get rustled over the most beautiful woman in the world.

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I am starting to think that the only reason Shinobu cannot just stay in her normal/adult form with the link between Araragi and het is because they'd be going at it like rabbits. I don't know how I'd hold myself with this in my shadow.

Now I am imaging a grown-up Shinobu in a corner at the old cram-school with a helmet on.

>>144457292
>I watched this scene but I am gay

>>144457292
I know this is bait, and while it is absolutely fanservice it also serves to illustrate that Shinobu is haughty and puts on a zero fucks bravado, and that the two of them have a de facto intimate relationship after everything that happened in Kizu. Her dialogue and the fact that she's fucking naked and all up in araragi's shit gives this kind of sinister undertone to the conversation almost. I don't know how to explain it, but you know when someone just doesn't care that they're in a revealing or vulnerable state and continue to act confident, and it gives off a very specific vibe? That thing.

>>144464476

Araragi was naked too, so that doesn't work.

>>144463974
Is this from koyomi?

>>144464723
Yes

>>144464434
I thought she needed to suck his blood to gain enough energy change and maintain forms

>>144461464
You know.

Not gonna lie this scene partially turned me pedo or at least lolicon. Wished I never watched it.

>>144465546
Embrace it.

>>144464654
Shinobu planned that conversation pretty meticulously. She was testing to see if their relationship could work. Also, admitting that she was trying to make up would hurt her pride, so she showed up in a context where she had an excuse to remove her helmet, which is apparently more important than being seen naked.

>>144466613
2deep

>>144466675
Characters doing things for reasons that aren't spelled out a thousand times isn't deep.

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>>144466757
So it's about a 1deep, then.

Symbolism isn't a justification, it's the icing on the cake.

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>>144466824
Sure.

>>144459196
Top Left > Top Right
Bottom Right > Bottom Left

She's going to end up sending me to jail

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>>144467950
>being canadian

>>144468075
It's not my fault

>>144468139
It is for being born

>>144468260
send my mother to jail then,

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I want to fuck this little slut and then take responsibility

I condone and participate in the sexualization and pure act of sex with children. And you should too.

>>144457292
>There were people who watched this scene without reading Kizumonogatari

>>144468635
>actually reading books
Gayyyy

>>144457292
>being afraid of fanservice

How much money do I need to make to afford Araragi's unreliable narrator house?

>>144468864
All of the money

>>144468635
It made me fall in love with her regardless. I went back and watched Kizu later as well.

>>144457292
I will defend this scene.
Fite me irl faggot

>>144469036
*read
I ain't no future man.

Anyone have the pic from that episode where she's making that pose with her legs up and nude?

>>144459594
Damn. Was hoping for Shinobu and Hanekawa.

>>144457292
I would like to inform everyone in this thread that, to the surprise of literally no one, OP is a gigantic faggot.
Good job OP, you're doing your lineage proud by pursing those plump niggrish lips and sucking down a load of baby gravy like its a steak dinner before you ride the lightning.

>>144469993
I somehow can only imagine that commentary imploding.

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>>144472177
Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong place. >>>/cgl/ is two boards down.

>>144472177
Kill yourself.

>>144468425
Please. She's a chaste woman by just about any standard.

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>>144468653
??

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>there are 4 translated but unreleased commentaries

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11LCCapL3dOrS6OXxJKh-6fULWVMii1XsLX3UDsRi1mQ

>>144461307

>drawings
>underage

>>144475171

That drawing hasn't been around for 18 years yet. The show aired in 2012, so it's barely even 5

>>144475331
Must be a pain for you to find porn.

>>144457908
That eye is pure sex.

>a vampire tries to kill her
>ends up killing itself
>she gives it a lap pillow until it revives

Holy shit was Shinobu adorable as a human.

>>144457292
I don't have to defend perfection.

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>>144478231
Are you saying she's not adorable now?

Well, i don't see anything wrong there either.

>>144478388
They're different flavors of adorable. I prefer the current smug that's built on a subtle foundation of dere but her human days are impressive.

>>144478550
If I had to describe it, for all the series talks about Hanekawa being 'the real deal' she looks like a fake when compared to Shinobu during her human days.

>>144457292

ep 4 was amazing

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>nobody ever talks about teen shinobu

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>>144474964
>kizu is Kiss-shot and Oshino

That's going to be amazing to listen to.

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>>144478832
She deserves more screen-time.

>>144478832
teen shinobu holding up and supporting rrrgi during the fight with yozuru was one of my favorite scenes of the entire series

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>>144478920
Shinobu is the best at showing love through her actions.

>>144478832
This wasn't nise though, was it? Fuck I can't even put arcs to specifics series it's been so long.

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>>144478832
She deserves more screen time.

>>144478978
It was at the end of Nise.

>>144478964
That laugh near the end gets my dick diamonds every single time. Quick question, though, is there some reason she can't just stay teen shinobu all the time?

>>144478832
>in the LN she made clothes for Araragi to replace his ruined clothes
>they argued over fashion

Wish they animated it.

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>>144478832
>>144478909
>>144478964

>teen shinobu

>>144478854
Gonna feel bad for Araragi getting shat on, unless its heart warming stuff.

>>144479048
I just like the idea of having someone by my side who would laugh in other people's' faces for doubting me.

As for why she doesn't stay as a teenager all the time, It takes too much power to maintain. Araragi would have to feed her way more blood than necessary and that's what caused his whole turning into a vampire for real problem during Tsuki.

>>144479132
I can't imagine too many insults. They might call Araragi hopeless or naive, but they both genuinely like him, especially Kiss-Shot.

>>144479204
If Koyomi turns back into a vampire, can't he just suck shinobu's blood again like he did at the end of kizu to balance everything out again?

I think that princess Acerola is little dead inside in Acerola Bon Appetit. I wish we could see her unspoiled version.

>>144479204
I'm retarded as fuck. What exactly is the nature of their sort of symbiotic vampire relationship? Like I understand that if one dies the other reverts to their original forms, but how did the whole blood drinking thing come about? I get that Shinobu lives off Araragi's blood, and the more she consumes the more powerful she gets, so is that just because the more blood she drink the closer he gets to death, and therefore the closer she gets to old kiss-shot? But then what's the mechanism by which araragi's vampire powers fluctuate? Again, sorry for being dense.

>>144479369
It's explained in kizu

>>144457636
You're supposed to argue this thread like this:
>god tier fanservice?
>more like pedo
>unironically great character development at the same time?
>m-muh character debelopment

>>144479369
Araragi's vampire powers are based off of Shinobu's. Shinobu gets stronger by drinking his blood, and Araragi gets stronger because Shinobu got stronger.

In Tsuki, the issue is that he got used to using vampire powers and started to turn into one on his own, instead of because of his link to Shinobu.

>>144479323
Would need someone around to do something.

How did Gaen manage to restore their link after Mayoi Hell?

>>144479357
Maybe not. Nisio keeps talking up how strong-willed she is. It's only been a few years of suffering. She might be unhappy, but she seems to still be in her original frame of mind.

Now Kiss-Shot was fucking dead inside when Araragi met her.

>>144479507
magik

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>>144479507
Who the hell knows, but we sure know Araragi thrown out his last chance to be a true human.

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>>144479580
Disregard humanity. Acquire Shinobu.

>>144479580
>caring about being human when you could literally spend the rest of eternity with the miracle of the Universe, Shinobu, as a vampire

Average bait, but you gave it a personality. 6/10

>>144479204
Wouldn't be surprised if Teen Shinobu and Araragi did lewd stuff if they were alone long enough.

>>144479840
I don't think he was bating or caring.

>>144479905
>bating

kek

>>144479870
Shinobu is pure.

> A silver right eye, and a bronze left eye.
What could it mean? Seriously.

>>144480350

Heterochromia

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>>144461218
>>144461262
STOP IT
SHINOBU ISN'T FOR LEWD

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>>144480907
She's plenty lewd already.

>>144479204
Even though I understand, I still think it's weird. Why can't she not stay as a adult but without most of her vamparic nature instead of turning into a 8 year old. I am still thinking about the adult Shinobu with a helmet.

>>144481833
>Just imagined Araragi putting a helmet on adult bat

I feel like she'd punch him.

>>144482854
Not if Araragi says Kissshot looks good and adorable. Might let it slide if he kept it to himself for an eternity that she wore it.

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Was pic related meant to be Araragi?

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Refrain from sexualizing daughteru, please and thank you.

>>144483312
Yeah, that was what SHAFT put if Araragi was forced to become one to save someone or something like that. Would like to see how much of a monster Araragi could become.

>>144459347
Waiting for Araragi to get a retarded vamp name at this point.

I'm not a lolicon, I just happen to like Shinobu

>>144457292
What's to defend?
The only thing I'll defend is the purity and love between me and my waifu.

The entire series is confusing
Like, where do I even begin to watch
Is there a chronological order to things or do I just go through every monogatari with no order

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>>144486043
Production order.

>>144486043
Definitely the production/released order.
It will jump around a lot but that's kinda the beauty in it.
As far as non linear story telling goes, I think it does a great job.
If you're confused about stuff, just Google "monogatari timeline".
There's a couple that nicely show all the events in chronological order.

>>144457292
I don't see the problem.