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>Reina on the front page!
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Mirage is love, Mirage is life
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I love Kaname!
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>>144166107
Are those two boys dating?
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I want to lick Reina's unblocked tummy!
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>>144166208
He seems a bit hesitant to do things with the trap. But, it's only a matter of time. Let's hope.
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What if Lady M is Milia?
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>>144166314
You're really into your model collections, aren't you, anon? Do you have any metal ones?
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>>144166314
that sticker on the gunpod is painful
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Good morning fellow Freyjafags. Only 3 more days until we can see more of our GoriGori.
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REINA
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>>144166495
I need more Hoina
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>>144166314
That's one of my thoughts as well. Next to Mylene
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>>144166611
I really want it to be Mylene but it's probably going to be one of her sisters.
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>>144166314
>>144166611
>>144166640
There's like a dozen potential candidates from the Jenius clan, but very little actually changes if we go from any one candidate to any other.
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>>144166366
They cost 4 times more and are slightly bigger which would look weird with my other 1/72 models. Also I'm a neet.
>>144166383
I'm sorry anon someday I will try them water slides w/ setters. Making due with markers and a dying sharpie.
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>>144166107

>Bogue fears the mysterious green glowing woman

And who wouldn't. Just look at that menacing smile. She clearly thirsting for bloodshed.
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>>144166767
even that can be painfully awful that's a decal because of the same reason: that glaring sheen. if you had paint you could carefully paint over around the letters to make less obvious but it'd have to be the exact same shade of grey
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I just realized Hayate and Freyja are opposite colors in all aspects.

For fold waves they are blue and orange which are complementary colors. When brought together, they create a bright white light.

If you go by anime standards or simpler color theory (blue vs red). Hayate is the blue of Delta and Freyja is the red of Walkure.

Huh.
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>>144166986
The only part of your post I don't understand is the
>Huh.

Or is it not a confusion "Huh" ?
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MIRAGEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>144167029
It's more of a huh like "huh, that's interesting"

Because if you start nitpicking at the whole HayaFre dynamic you start noticing a lot of things that accentuate on shipping factors that are generally found through a lot of anime/series.
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>>144167166
Well yes. But this is also true for virtually all shows in existance, though they may not all be so thurough about it to go so far as to the color design of the characters
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>>144166314
The jenius clan is basically everywhere around the Universe just like the jews being everywhere around the world. So high chance lady M coming from Jenius clan
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>>144167262
Yes I know. I was just pointing out that there's a lot of little details that point to them being a pair. It's like you said, it's a general thing in a lot of anime but very few are so thorough with it.
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It is said the Hayate's dad always travels a lot right? Could he be in the same situation as Isamu where he is a soldier who is hot headed and always disobey orders till the higher ups hated him and keep on posting him elsewhere?
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WINDNIGGER GENOCIDE SOON
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>>144167569
Windmere needs to be liberated
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>>144167539
Sounds more like he's a special ops pilot who's transferred a lot due to being needed in different locations
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>>144167657
For arad and ernest to say that Hayate and Frejya's fate intertwines makes me think that Hayate's dad plays a huge role in the Wind's war of independence 7 years ago.
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Big tits looks so much better with hair down.
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>>144167645
That too
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>>144167690
He didn't say his and Freyja's fates intertwine, rather that his and Windermere's does. But yes, this lends credence to that theory.

Honestly, I just think he dropped the bomb or was involved with it. We just lack the missing pieces to craft a narrative of exactly how and why this would've happened.
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>>144167569
TIME TO BREAK SOME WIND
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WINDMERE IS TOO COLD
HEAT UP THE WIND
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>>144167569
>>144167645
>>144167825
>>144167900
XD
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>>144168012
>windnigger apologist can't do anything but shitpost when faced with impending doom
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>>144168050
Flip a coin, if heads a giant fleet of Zentradi ships appear and glass Windermere. If tails, this does nothing.
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>>144166584
Hoinya!
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>>144168070
>There are people who still think the entire planet should die and not just Roid/Berger
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>>144168124
Should have thought about that before forcefully mindcontrolling entire planets.
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>>144168074
itty bitty hoinas
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>>144167825
<<Time to dive into the fireworks>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1feWsXW3uU
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>>144168142
Apparently one 9/11 wasn't enough. Looks like Americans still have to learn how losing civilians to an outsider aggressor feels like. But don't worry folks, soon you'll get ISIS's, let's hope this time you can learn the concept of empathy.
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A picture from 3 years ago.
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>>144167569
Nice delusions, Nunsfaggot. Meanwhile...

NUNS GENOCIDE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW

And it's glorious.
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>>144169277
Oh forget to say, it's other works from character designer, she sure know how to reuse them.
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>>144169315
You will beg for mercy when you cities are turned into rubble
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>>144169447
Windermere will finish what Zentradi started. There will be no human left to beg for mercy. Human genocide soon.
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>>144169447
>>144169620
This roleplaying of fictional armies needs to stop
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So I'm pretty sure that Chuck isn't going to die anymore. I had him pegged on the death pool but it's kind of getting too late for that.

Hermann's still there though
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>>144169776
>Hermann's still there though
After the grandson bit last episode he's as good as dead.
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>>144169776
Chuck is not going to die since his death transferred to his sister.

Meanwhile all of the Knights will die save for Bogue who will be in suicide watch once Freyja convinces Heinz that peace is the way and he will have to serve Freyja as his Queen. Keith will lose another eye and die in the last movie.
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>>144169639
It will end soon, NUNS genocide is already happening and those jobbers can't even win a battle. They can't even shoot one Windermere plane down.

Windermere strong, NUNS will be annihilated.
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I like this picture.


This is a good picture.
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>>144169887
>he will have to serve Freyja as his Queen
This anon speaks the truth.
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Plot twist: FreyjaxHeinz Endgame with Hayate being their thirdwheel and going MUH WINDSONGS
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>>144170150
'no'
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>>144169887
>and he will have to serve Freyja as his Queen
You mean Mikumo once she's revealed to be the true Protoculture heir?
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Freyja captured and executed for treason when?
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>>144170317
Roid will force Heinz to impregnate Freyja, their child will be the strongest Wind Singer.
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>>144170317
>that fucked up W on the right

Now that shit's just downright adorable.
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>>144170150
>FreyjaxMikumo
Fixed that for you.
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>>144168070
More like flip a coin, if heads a giant fleet of Zentradi ships appear, gets Vared and glass Earth.
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>>144169620
>show is about humans
>implying humans are going to lose

I'll be here enjoying Windermere's rock bottom until the finale.

But keep drinking that kool aid that Chaos will just join or protect Windermere from DA EBIL NUNS.
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>>144170317
Actually the "semi"-official way of Mirage's W is with her thumbs
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>>144169277
>Genki Mirage
This is so weird.
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>>144166495
I'm a Miragefag and even I can't wait to see more Freya. Seriously why are both of them so goddamn cute?
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>>144170063
come at me bro
I will fuck your shota emperor boipussy
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>>144171196
they just are. And I'm not even a yuri faggot.
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>>144171100
>show is about humans
Found the retard. Show is about a human boy and a Windy girl.

>implying Freyja will lose her planet and Wind friends
>implying Freyja will ever lose anything

Why are Windhaters so delusional?
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I love Hayako!
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>>144171538
Hayako x Freyr when?
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>>144171361
She will lose the Hayatebowl.
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>>144171100
>NUNS
>not evil
Choose one.
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Delta is literally about Winds vs Humans. The two MCs are a human and a Windie. It's implied that the Human MCs father may have something to do with what caused the Windies rage in the first place. Windie MC is all about bringing peace to the world.

Delta is about a fucking UNDERSTANDING ending anime with the Human MC and Windie MC working together towards a peaceful future.

What is so hard to comprehend about this?
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>>144171639
>windfags
>not evil
Choose one
>>144171678
Because all we are saying is give war a chance
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Hayate and Freyja are the Max and Milia of Delta. They'll lead and show the rest of the Galaxy that humans and Windies can understand each other and live in peace.
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Any wings.io room?

I want to fly against you guys again.
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>>144171739
>Freyjafags now pulling the Max and Milia card when Max and Milia were equals and not just a glorified singing Duracell for tight situations
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>>144171361
Freyja doesn't give a fuck about Windermere nor her remaining friends and family there, all she cares about is Walkure and Hayate.
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>>144171778
>Miragefags are so delusional that they can see what is front of their eyes
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>>144171763
I'm in:
http://wings.io/#1wdw

I don't think there's any others
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>>144171678
Also Walkure members are humans, zentradi, Windermerere and Protoculture. Show is not about one faction genocide the other, is about different races working together.

Genocidefags are going to get BTFO so hard that they will never be able to come back from this.
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>>144171857
You thought wrong
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>>144171778
The point stands that Hayate and Freyja are from two different species that are at war and that their purpose is to work together to achieve peace.

Stop being such a bitter wuss. If Hayate and Freyja were carbon copies of Max and Milia y'all would still be angry for some other reason.
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>>144171818
You're as stupid as they come. You need to rewatch Delta again. You've clearly missed important plot and character development.
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>>144171915
Windermere is at war with everyone, not just humans, its just a convenient excuse.

They subjugated the cat people, fish people the space Arabs and everyone else.
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>>144171678
>Understanding

Kawamori attacks again with his hippie thinking, which believes that any conflict can be solved like that.

Glad that he is old and is going to kick the bucket soon, Macross needs to be acquired by Sunrise.
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>>144171891
Give another room then?
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>>144171886
>Windfag so shook and afraid that they actually believe Kawamori will keep them strong for 26 episodes without repercussions
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>>144171678
So in the end Haya marries Frejya to built a bridge of peace and understanding between humams and the windermere. Just like Max and Milia all over again
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>>144172102
Sunrise is literally the primary example of understanding though and Gundam isn't about glorifying war either.

>>144171818
Are you completely retarded?

How many of you fuckers are going to just pretend to think you understand the show instead of just forcing your own shit on it?
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>>144172102
Kawamori's understanding is similar to Sunrise's understanding, its like trading a hex screw for a flat screw.

As the people who pointed out before even the Zentradis who tried to blow up Earth got blown to ribbons and lost a lot of their invasion fleet to achieve their objective before getting pacified.

There is no Macross show yet where the campfire friendship shenanigans that happens in the end were forced and contrived as fuck so the Windermere fans are in for a rude awakening if they think they'll get away with all the shit they've pulled for the past episodes just because and the NUNS fans are also delusional to think that equal retribution will happen.
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>>144172152
Literally everybody thinks at least half or more of the Knights will die. Roid is straight up becoming the villain.
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>>144166165
Back to dead, Messer
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>>144172342
>even the Zentradis who tried to blow up Earth got blown to ribbons and lost a lot of their invasion fleet to achieve their objective before getting pacified.
That was in SDF though. In DYRL, they just switched sides to take out in Bodeladza. Well most of the Meltrandi fleet died though, you could count that.
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>>144172364
Keith, Heinz and Bogue will survive, though. That's all that matters.
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>>144172395
SDF is canon and DYRL is not. Same goes for Plus being not canon
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>>144172291
>Freyja marry

She's Minmay 5.0 and is married to Walkure and music

Hayate doesn't even see her as a woman and she's never getting out of the little sister sphere even if they repeat the "damsel kidnapped and in distress" trope
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>>144172115
I thought you ment there aren't any other anons in that room. And I implied I was in that room
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Windermere literally did nothing wrong
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>>144172460
Things only retards believe
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>>144172467
>She's Minmay 5.0 and is married to Walkure and music
That doesn't work for Macross. This isn't your purity bullshit. Minmay married someone else and had a kid too after the series.
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>>144172408
>Bogue
>survive

He's that pesky villain who keeps surviving until near end where he gets murdered by a side character.

He'll die to Mirage or gets ganked by Arad and Chuck.
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>>144172528
Minmay is forever remembered as the loser who choked and forever second place behind Misa.
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>>144172608
>and forever second place behind Misa.
But not for the galaxy where she's the legendary singer who saved the Earth. Does anybody even remember who Misa and Hikaru are? They're probably barely part of Minmay's legend
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>Keith vs Roid foreshadowed from the very beginning
>Keith has his own manga
>Keith only Knight in the ending
Will Windhaters commit sudoku when Keith joins Delta?
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>>144172658
Twins will stay with Roid, so will Bogue

Herman will die

The guy with his family may or may not defect to Delta but Keith almost certainly will

You heard it here first
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>>144171778
He's saying their positions as two different races are similar not that they are 100% the exact same position. I mean for one thing, they are part of the same organization and have separate roles in it unlike Max and Milia who were both pilots
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>>144172658
>kills one of Delta's squaddies
>loses an eye to Delta pilots
>even more bloodthirsty as he was prior
>KEITH JOINS DELTA GUISE
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>>144172499
He's right though in a way. DYRL is an in universe movie, SDF is generally considered to be considered closer to what actually happened in universe. Though really trying to figure out the canon in Macross is for the mentally unsound.
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>>144172652
>They're probably barely part of Minmay's legend
Hikaru killed Bodolza and the in-universe movie and film about the conflict obviously has him as the protagonist.
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>>144172739
Kawamori's official stance is that every production of Macross that we have seen is an in-universe movie so everything is canon.

>SDF is generally considered to be considered closer to what actually happened in universe.
Except things from both SDF and DYRL carried over into future events, not just one over the other. Heck, the entire aesthtic of the Protoculture that we are dealing with right now came from the ruins in DYRL
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>>144166495
also muh chink dress
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>>144172756
Created protagonist for the viewers to relate to. The real ace pilot of the era was Max and Milia. Their marriage is also legendary making them the second most famous people of space war one after Minmei
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>>144173049
DON'T FORGET FOKKER BRO
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>>144173080
Actually unfortunately, I think Fokker was kind of forgotten to time. He has no notable achievements during the war and died too early in it in both continuities
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I feel like I'd hate the Windies less if not for KAZE KAZE KAZE SORA SORA SORA
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>>144173080
Best boi of SDF. Hikaru and Misa are shit, they do nothing except complainig about cousin fucking each other instead of them.
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>>144171678
Yeap, Hayate and Freyja will become the symbol of the peace. They will unite humans and all civilian windermerians. But evil Knights will be nuked out of existence because they can't into UNDERSTANDING.
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>>144173049
Ehh??? Hikaru not consider an ace pilot? Is he not on the same level as max and milia?
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>>144173265
He's good, if even existed. And no, he wouldn't stand a chance against either of them, and neither did Focker.
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>>144173265
Hikaru was explicitly not at the level of Max through the entirety of SDF. That was the joke
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>>144173265
Hikaru's a shit. He spending so many screentime on following Minmay's pussy. Max and Millia are the real ace.
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>>144173103
He ended the anti-un war. Its like the greatest achievements in history books. Dont forget he is also part of the story in macross zero
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>>144172729
>even more bloodthirsty as he was prior
Did you even watch the latest episode? Keith just wanted NUNS to fuck off from the cluster, they did. He doesn't support this conquer the galaxy, genocide NUNS retarded plan of Roid.
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>>144171818
Take off your delusion goggle. She even said that she want to sing to stop the war.
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>>144173344
I thought everything in Zero was classified?

>>144173423
>He doesn't support this conquer the galaxy, genocide NUNS retarded plan of Roid.
It's more like he does what he thinks is right to protect Heinz. If he thinks what Roid is doing is best for Windermere then he'll go along with it. Once he realizes that it's not and it's just his own "Muh Protoculture legacy" craziness then he'll probably not support it at all.
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>>144173344
In the series, Fokker literally dies because he's swatted away by Milia as an annoyance to her when she's trying to fight Max. That's how big a gap we have between Focker and M&M duo. Hikaru doesn't stack up more favorably either.
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>>144173423
Keith wanted to kill all NUNS so he did
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Me about this whole thread: There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

For real tho a lot of you are delusional and only hating on characters like Freyja because she gets in the way of your Mirageship.

It's just so stupid how far you're willing to go to demonize her character and everything Freyja stands for just because MUH ELF EARS SHIP
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>>144173303
>>144173312
>>144173332

1) Which means Hikaru is just a regular pilot just like Fokker i guess? Its really ironic to know that Max who is under Hikaru's command is actually better than him.

2) What make Hikaru important as a soldier and a pilot? Is it because of his leadership skills or?
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>>144173819
Fuck off Freyjafag
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>>144173920
Oh, Miragefag. Throw me one of your past Macross loserflags memes. That oughta show me and put me in my place.
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>>144173880
Hikaru's good, he's just not in the same league as M&M. You don't make the super skilled rookie a squad leader out of nowhere, Hikaru was still the veteran
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>>144173531
>I thought everything in Zero was classified?
What do u mean by this?

>>144173539
1) Wait, how did he die again in SDF?

2) I thought at some point of the SDF series, he is kinda rusty or maybe mentally tired and ended up getting himself killed? Because there is a couple of episodes where is did not sortie.
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>>144174011
No wonder at some point in the beginning of the SDF macross series, hikaru felt compelled and pressured by the fact that Max does better than him with ease as his destroy count is higher than Hikaru.

2) What about the docker or gamlin? are they truly recognized as elite or just on par with any veteran pilots like hikaru and roy fokker.
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>>144174044
They're attacked by Millia and her squad of Queadluun-Rau. She's searching for this super skilled miclone pilot that Kamjin had told her was on the Macross. Focker tries to take her on, and she just shows annoyance, deals him a deadly blow and goes on to fight Max. I forget but I think she even said "You're in my way". I don't remember Focker appearing as if he was worn out, but its been a while
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>>144174224
At first i thought the super skilled pilot that kamjin mentions was Hikaru because all these while it was Hikaru that was an annoyance to him since they both always fought each other while max was toying with the Zentradi grunts? I didnt recall max ever fought with Kamjin though. They should at least show us a battle between hikaru and Milia.
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>>144174155
It's hard to compare them, since they've never flown together. But Max and Millia are widely considered the very best. Focker and Hikaru are by no means bad, but they were clearly shown to be coming up short of M&M.
Many like to point to Isamu as one of the very best too, but usually below Max (and Millia). Max is kinda like Macross's Amuro at this point. Seven introduces Basara, and in the show Max even says he thinks Basara may be better than him. Gamlin is otherwise shown to be the best 'normal pilot' in 7, though probably below both Basara and Max. Max is the one who alone completes operation stargazer, when teams of other pilots fail. Docker is good, but not as skilled as Gamlin?
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Hayate is gay.

This is why he's not shown any romantic or sexual interest in either of the girls. This also explains how he's so friendly with them to the point of almost flirting.

This also explains him listening to girly pop and dancing.

Explains the jewelry and hairclip.

Also explains why he was so overly concerned for Messer before he died.

Hayate triggers my gaydar unlike any anime character I've seen outside of obvious BL shows.
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>>144174669
Fujoshi, please
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>>144174481
Yea, what you said actually made a lot sense though. About Max, he literally completes operation stargazer all by himself. He is like the one man army of the UNS.

I remember him taking on two protodevilns at first until milia sorties out to fight along side him.
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>>144174727
Fujo? Hell no. I'm just a faggot who likes mecha and good music. Hayate triggers my gaydar a lot.

Not every gay person is a flaming homosexual constantly hitting on everything with a penis.
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>>144174669
Hahaha, it's fucking happening, Miragefags are moving to the next step.

5 stages of grief.

1. Denial
>"Mirage will win!", "Older girl always wins!", "She will get her episode soon!"

2. Anger
>"What a shitty show", "It's bad writing", "they lied to us!"

3. Bargaining <- miragefags are here now
>"Hayate is gay so it doesn't count as a loss"

4. Depression

5. Acceptance
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>>144174669
Jewlry and hairclips aren't gay in Moonland.
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Ground rules:
- Let's say that they're all flying the same type of mecha (VF-1 or VF-25, take your pick) and pretend that that’s the mecha they've been flying all their lives.
- For now, let's take the leadership factor out of the equation.
- Major characters only (sorry, Machida)
- AI pilots don't count! (sorry, Sharon Apple).
- He may have been a hotshot pilot during his day (e.g. Millard), but if we never saw him or her animated flying, he doesn't count.
- If a character's pilot skills develop over time, let's use the "peak" of his battle skills as our reference (but that "peak" has to be actually animated)

So all things being equal, how do we rank our Macross pilots (major characters only) in terms of pure pilot excellence in battle?

Off the top of my head, I'd say:

1.Maximilian Jenius
2.Milla Fallyna Jenius
3.Basara Nekki
4.Isamu Dyson
5.Chlore
6.Guld Bowman
7.Hikaru Ichijo
8.Roy Focker
9.Ozma lee
10.Alto Saotome
11. D.D. Ivanov
12. Brera Sterne
13.Quamzin Kravshera
14.Klan Klan
15.Shin Kudo
16.Nora Polyanski
17.Michael Blanc
18.Gamlin Kizaki
19.Docker
20.Kinryu

But Nekki Basara can be at the top though since max admits that Nekki Basara is the better pilot.
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>>144172703
>Twins will stay with Roid, so will Bogue
Personally I think the death of the older knights will sway some of the younger ones away from the war path - like I'm thinking Herman's death will totally make Bogue do a 180 on his stance.

Remember the kiddies are fueled by a combination of youthful brashness / hateboners / national pride. Losing one or more of their comerades and mentors will really hammer home what this galatic conquering scheme will cost, and that might make some of them reconsider if it's worth it or not.
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>>144174974
I remember reading this somehwere...

oh yeah
http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=27310
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>>144175090
Ya, i'm the guy who posted long ago, so decided to bring it here
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>>144175031
>implying that kids know better

also
>A bullet from a 14-year-old is just as effective as one from a 40-year-old. Often more effective
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>>144174974
To me Nora Polyansky is hot though. But too bad there is no hentai for her.
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>>144175167
> implying that kids know better
lol they don't at this point, which is why they're going 'YAY WAR' at Roid's chickenshit plan while the more jaded adults are all 'you gotta be kidding me'.

I'm saying that the death of one of the older guys MIGHT cause some of them to see that war is not all that. Not all of them have to defect (heck there might be better drama if fiancee twin defects while the other stays)
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>>144175269
>Nora Polyansky

my fellow nubian
>>144175376
Or the death is going to make them more fanatics
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>>144175149
It could use some upgrading. Like bringing in delta pilots. Though I doubt anyone but Messer and Keith would rank very high.
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>>144175031
This. Also, this episode also served to show that the twins are also close to Herman and respect him, not as much as Bogue but the relationship is there. If Herman dies because of Roid's actions and decisions or in the hands of Epsilon I can easily see Bogue and the twins reconsider everything.
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>>144174913
It's been painfully obvious that both girls are losing and Hayate is in love with flying and doesn't give a flying shit about either girls in that way.

Kawamori has stated this triangle won't end like the others.
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>>144175522
>Kawamori has stated this triangle won't end like the others.
So it won't end like the triangle in Frontier TV? Thanks god, I hated sky end. But that also means Freyja will win.
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>>144175509
>implying that they are not going to blame the NUNS for his death
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>>144175606
Alto chose Sheryl in both the series and movie endings. Ranka was never a serious contender.
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Hayate coming out of the closet episode when?

More importantly, MiragexFreyja wedding with priest Mikumo episode when?
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>>144174913
Meanwhile Freyjafags are already at Depression
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>>144175606
>Rankafag thinking the sky end was the TV end
>he also thinks Freyja will win
Double the delusion, double the mistake.
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>>144175657
Alto chose the sky. Confirmed by director. Don't bother arguing with that.
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>>144175715
>Hayate coming out of the closet
When Keith joins the party. I mean really who could resist that fine shirokishi booty.
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>>144175606
Delta series haven't end and you start to assume frejya will win.

Frejyafag confirmed
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I feel sad for Miragefags. If chances of Freyja winning the bowl are low, Mirage chances are below 0. At least us Freyjafags have a character with character development and whose lines don't consistent of gasping and yelling DELTA 4/5.
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>>144176077
>are below 0
>says the scared Freyjafag for the 97834953rd time
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>>144176139
Scared of what exactly? The dankness of the memes you can post?
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>>144176139
Nice projection miragefag
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>>144176139
Show me your past Macross loserflags memes. Hit me baby one more time with that desperate denial of yours.
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>>144176319
I want to fuck him
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>>144176319
Don't sexualize the kids please. Sexualize the adults instead.
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>>144176328
>desperate denial
That's rich coming from a Freyjafag.
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>>144176381
Jesus gonna be sad when this pretty fucker bites it
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>>144176392
>Desperate denial
When us Freyjafags want to take up on that offer, we'll be sure to head your way for some fine ass tips. You Miragefags perfected the art of denial.
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>>144176319
>>144176357
DELETE. Bogue is pure. PURE!
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>>144176476
It's not like he doesn't deserve it. He's ignoring all peace negotiations and is sending his men to their deaths while setting a very bad image of his planet.
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>>144176606
Bogue is a joke.
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>>144176606
Bogue with his hair down when.
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>>144176628
His planet mindcontrols entire planets, declares war on everyone and he's caring about his planet's image?
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>>144176724
I would pay to see Bogue with his hair down in a china dress.
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>>144176628
Yeah he's evil and is totally gonna die, but he's "beautiful" to look at that's the thing. Why do all the hotties have to be evil...
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TOBERU AI NO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDJut50TzmQ
I hated the OP at first but now I dig it, cannot wait for the next album.
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>>144176606
He's sexualized by the staff.

>thigh gap
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>>144176896
>Mirage
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>>144176896
>no Mirage

kek
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>>144176896
Where the check is mirage???
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>>144176917
>>144176958
>>144176972
It only features the characters of the seiyuu who went to the event and Seto wasn't one of them.
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>>144177007
Is pathetic when even the VA does not care about her
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>>144176896
ooh boy, dat gap is sexy. Damn sexy Bogue.
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>>144177007
So you're telling me that instead of having the VA for a "member of the main triangle" they had Bogue's go instead
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>>144177007
Based KENN.
Bogue singing when?
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>>144176139
Is this seriously the best you could do?
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>>144177198
People went there for Walkure, not for Hayate/Bogue/Mirage/etc.

Keith and Heinz's VAs are also goners.
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>>144177198
KENN.

One of the skits had Hayate mention Bogue's runes and Bogue calling him a pervert. Another one was Bogue announcing Walkure's album as if he were a secret fan while Freyja laughed in the background, and they also had KENN wear cat ears, pawns and a tail while he spoke in a sexy Bogue voice.
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>>144177257
Freyjafags are never meant to be taken seriously after flopping and making shit up every week.

I look forward for the next level of delusion and headcanon next week.
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>>144177198
It was really more of a Walkure thing in general
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>>144176896
That's from that event isn't it. I remember the catchline, which is shown up top
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>>144177246
I literally have no idea why they chose KENN if Bogue wasn't gonna break out into song at some point. Didn't he audition for Keith initially? Duet with Bogue and Keith when
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>>144177337
>miragefags
>serious people

nah m8 you are delusional as fuck
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>>144177337
>Freyjafags are never meant to be taken seriously after flopping and making shit up every week.
You are the ones who literally can't think of a reason for Mirage to win without making something up about forcibly taking Freyja out of the story that doesn't fit. Not once has anybody given me a reason why Mirage should win on her merits the way the show has presented itself now
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>>144177337
>Miragefags are never meant to be taken seriously after flopping and making shit up every week. I look forward for the next level of delusion and headcanon next week.

Fixed that for you. You're welcome.
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>>144177410
He auditioned for Keith and Roid but was given Bogue in the end. In the event he joked about how he apparently has no adult appeal.
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>>144177410
KENN is a regular voice actor too. He didn't sing in Mushibugyo
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>>144177429
>Not once has anybody given me a reason why Mirage should win on her merits the way the show has presented itself now

That's because they can't. Ask them to give you proof why Mirage should win and suddenly it's like Miragefags are dead or at church praying to Jesus for a miracle.
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>>144177282
Man that's too cute.

'Knights being closet Walkurefags' is absolutely my fave running gag. Roid's Gori Gori radio comes to mind too.
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Frejya and haya when?
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>>144177595
Soon
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>>144177282
>and they also had KENN wear cat ears, pawns and a tail while he spoke in a sexy Bogue voice.
Any pics?

>>144177410
I'm sad we are not getting one. It's a shame because KENN's singing voice is A++
Yeah, he did. But Kimura has some kind of history with Space Antagonists so that's probably why they choosed him instead.
Never ever ;_;
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>>144177429
>>144177566
>phoneposting
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What's with all the Bogueposting? Not like I mind
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>>144177595
never
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>>144177703
Miragefag spotted!!
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>>144177655
Wow you really conviced me about why Mirage is going to win

upboated
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>>144177698
Disgusting fujoshits showing up on slow thread day
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>>144177698
Bogue a cute.
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>>144177736
It's obvious that mirage is going to win. A win without reason is a sure win!
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>>144177698
Bogue is love. Bogue is life. Bogue has been on the front page twice.
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>>144177698
It's better than shitposting about the triangle.
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>>144177825
>better than shitposting about the triangle.
>posts literal shit
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>>144177743
>fujoshits
Still trying to force this shit? Delta characters are for het shipping.
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>>144177644
No pictures, just from event reports. They also said Minoringo's face while he did all that was priceless.
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>>144177845
This pairing is shit though. I've been calling it awful since episode 6 and it still makes no sense. I don't even see people post it ironically anymore
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>>144177800
Bogue's gonna die and I hate him. Hayate should've killed him.
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>>144177868
>We will never get a recording of sexy Bogue voice.
Why even live
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>>144177874
>still makes no sense
And? They look cute together.
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>>144177874
It has some cute fanart. Be grateful they haven't interacted more because there would probably be even more fans.
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>>144177879
>Bogue's gonna die
>implying they will kill him

Messer died and Hayate still acts like a cuck who refuses to kill as evidenced with his Freyja buff plus Mirage gank against Keith. When he discovers his daddy is connected to the giant crater in Windermere he's going to be an even bigger insufferable pussy.

A bad end for Bogue isn't dying, but serving Freyja in a twisted sense of irony. The idol that he hates is his master now.
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>>144177868
Thanks anon.

She is so cute with her Bogue-fangirlish attitude.
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>>144177975
I don't care for the pairings that have no basis in the show especially when one actively tried to kill the other like, what is it like four times at this point?
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>>144177998
Her Boguefagness is on overdrive now. I'm intrigued.
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>>144178073
so like Max and Milia?
;*)
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My guess on Sundays episode.

>Hayate moping around
>Arad being very vogue about what Immelman senior did
>Freyja being excited about throwing a party for Hayate but he's not feeling it
>Hayate enters emo lvl 10
>Mirage gasps and says "Hayate!" before disappearing into the background again
>Hayate and Freyja talk things out about why Hayate is suddenly all MCR up in this gig
>Freyja is a bit shocked but ultimately says there might be reasons as to why Hayate's dad did the things he did. "Someone as wonderful as your dad who sent you gifts and wrote you cards couldn't be evil"
>Hayate cheers up a bit after Freyja sings him a song
>Hayate resolves to find out what really happened and clear his dad's name and git gud
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>>144178266
>Arad being very vogue about what Immelman senior did
No, judging from that "holy fuck" face he had, I think we're going to get some answers as to what happened

>>144178185
Maybe if Freyja flew a VF or she had a sword to have a poorly animated sword fight with him when they were in the cave but since neither of those happened, no.
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>>144178077
What has she said about Bogue? I know she is a big fan of him.
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>>144178321
I hope we do get answers. That'd be nice for a change
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>>144178407
That she really likes naughty characters like him and wonders how their dere side would be. Also, she likes his relationship with Herman. And she went from "I really like Bogue" to "I love, love him and I'm going to collect all his goods" on her blog.
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>>144178545
>And she went from "I really like Bogue" to "I love, love him and I'm going to collect all his goods" on her blog.
Dere Bogue confirmed.
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>>144178545
Source and link to her blog?
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>>144178545
>That she really likes naughty characters like him and wonders how their dere side would be.
She has a point here.

Thanks for the info. I like her even more now. She is really cute with her fangirl side.
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>>144178626
http://e-stone.victormusicarts.jp/minoringo/blog
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Freyja's new song sounds melodramatic and serious. Do you think we'll get a cheerful song like Jiritik Beginner?
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>>144178881
why don't she sing DYRL as fan service in Delta?
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>>144178881
>>144178881
http://e-stone.victormusicarts.jp/minoringo/archives/897
>実は鈴木、ボーグが大好きだ!大好きだ!と言いながらも、KENNさんと現場でお話したりすることは殆どなく、今回イベントを通してお話できたこと、ボーグが好きだということを伝えられてとても嬉しかったです

>これからも1人のボーグ推しとして、グッズ集め頑張ります!(ただのファン)
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>>144178921
where is her new song? is it better than ranka?
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>>144178988
Look in the archive.
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>>144178988
My boyfriend is a pilot
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>>144179167
>Freyja sings My boyfriend is a pilot
>Freyjafags on instant suicide watch

Her VA already sung DYRL but it isn't in the anime so it doesn't count (yet)
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Apparently this is the song we'll be getting next episode

http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/-/SampleStreamMeta/VTCL-35236/-/-/3/A.html

Third one on the list.
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https://www.youtube.com/watchv=CuECM8uugIM
Is this the best DYRL we heard so far compare to the previous singers?
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>>144179338
>Apparently this is the song we'll be getting next episode
I think this song is of an insert song played during Hayate's most depressing moments which is the fact that he knows his that is a mass murder? This song doesn't feel lively to me, i dont think its even suited as a song dedicated to his birthday
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Minori does such a good job on Air Oboete Imasu Ka. I love her voice and can't wait to see if it will make an appearance on Delta.
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>>144179556
Probably after my boyfriend's a pilot is sang.
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>>144179491
It's somber. Fitting for a guy who's just realised that his daddy is a mass murderer who sparked a war and a girl who's realised that the boy she admired is related to someone who's killed a bunch of her countrymen.
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>>144179491
Well I mean it does translate to "The wind blows without prior notice" so there's that. For some reason I don't think it'll be a "birthday song" per se but more like an inspirational song about hard times. A genki song while Hayate is going through this seems like a childish choice? Plus if we're going towards bringing the MCs together for bonding the tone of the song feels more appropriate.
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>>144179745
so next episode will perhaps be a sad birthday then.
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I'd really enjoy it if Freyja and Hayate became couple of fugged, and the next time it was time to sing, Freyja sang my boyfriend is a pilot while Hayate starts blushing like crazy. And the just run with this straight faced through the rest of the series.
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>>144179866
in your dreams though. Hayate will be together with Frejya
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>>144179745
It's a song about how unpredictable life can be and cherishing every moment from the lyrics we have heard. Even the title is a metaphore about how you never know how life will turn out.
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>>144179866
That's like the most 7th grade romance post I've ever read. And I was a 7th grader once, like 12 years ago.
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>>144180014
Exactly. Seems very appropriate for the current situation of what Hayate and Freyja will go through. They're good friends and my guess is they never expected to be in this situation where Hayate's dad could've done something to hurt Freyja's people.
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http://macross.jp/news/?id=287
>他、各曲instrumental含む、全9曲入り
Does this mean there are 9 songs in total for this album???
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>>144180151
4 of them are vocal less versions of the others. so 5 really.
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>>144180456
so there won't be anymore new songs after the one that is played in next episode?
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>>144180672
No way. Kawamori said they were trying to play one new song per ep.
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>>144180719
so there will another new album after this walkure album, http://macross.jp/news/?id=287?
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>>144180672
its a single. it's not an album. There's 3 new songs on it, like the first single. Then there's 2 alternate versions of a song on the previous album, then instrumental version of all of those.

It's not the second album. That'll be later
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>>144180719
For the first cour.
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>>144180905
oh so that's how it works. Thanks for the clarification. Will be hoping for better songs in the future!
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Are there any other pilots in Macross universe who actually manages to do this "backflip" stunt during dogfights?

This picture is taken from episode 13 of Macross F, in the picture you can see Alto is doing the "backflip" stunt during his battle against Brera with his VF-25
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>>144181453
I hope you're not suggesting that Alto has super high pilot power level
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Macross F 1st Opening theme is best!
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>>144181906
I like Maaya Sakamoto, but i'm not sure i would call that her best, even though i dont dislike the song.
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>>144182009
i like how the opening was made and the timing of the scenes suits the music
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>>144181453
That's a pugachev cobra. Hayate did it a bunch of times
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>>144182434
What about pilots from previous macross series? have any of them did that?
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>>144182434
I wonder if he'll ever do an Immelmann turn
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>>144182826
I don't think Isamu and Hikaru ever did it, my memory is pretty fuzzy about Shin though.
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>>144182981
>Shin
He did when he was fighting Nora, he almost shoots her down that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sEnx44v6Dk
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>>144182981
That webm u showed, is that how messah and keith dodge the incoming missiles?
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マクロスΔ」ワルキューレが1位 mora上半期アニソンランキング発表

http://animeanime.jp/article/2016/07/14/29478.html
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>>144183228
In Plus they say that the VF's fly so fast past the missiles that the proximity fuse can't even trigger
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>>144183218
the thing about that move is that its essentially stalling the machine, so that a potential pursuer will shoot ahead, and you'll be behind him. So I always thought it a bit odd when they both do that in zero. Okay, neither of them want to end up ahead, but at that point, couldn't either of them just transform into battroid and slow down further? Regardless, i love seeing the maneuver in muh macross.
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Why is he interested in her?
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>>144183651
replacement for Heinz in the Sigr Valens.
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>>144183461
>VF's fly so fast past the missiles that the proximity fuse can't even trigger
Can you break down in simple terms for me please? Sorry i'm new to this.
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>>144183774
It means the missiles don't have time to 'splode.
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>>144183769
So it all made sense. Mikumo's betrayal is certain.
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>>144183774
plane is of fly very fast
missile not go big boom
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>>144181906
>Macross F 1st Opening theme is best!
No

Seventh Moon>MA-KU-ROSS>Lion>Ichido Dake>Zettai Reido Novatick>Trianglar

Seriously, that is not Maaya Sakamoto's best voice. The Ranka/Sheryl version is better even. They should have just used that as the OP
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>>144183590
That's the thing they can't transform because of the speed (it's shown a few secconds later). In zero the phoenix could not yet handle the stress of transforming at those speeds. When he and Nora slow down Shin actually goes into batroid when he is able to. Watch at 1:05
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>>144183651
He's interested in all the Walkure as a whole
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>>144183651
He's a mikumofag
But in all seriousness, he's probably stumbled across something related to her in his protoculture research.
Or maybe he thinks she's a threat to Heinz re: singing power.
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>>144183996
>MA-KU-ROSS
>Anything but first

Plebest of tastes
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>>144184040
oh right, I remember that being a thing now
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>>144174974
>But Nekki Basara can be at the top though since max admits that Nekki Basara is the better pilot.

Wut. He says the exact opposite--Max says that Basara is pretty good but that he has a long way to go before he could be compared to Max in his prime.

Also, if Keith was included on this list, he would probably be at least #3. He's unbelievably good when his rune's shining and he's pumped up.
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>>144182981
Isamu did it when Guld fired that one missile barrage that almost killed him in plus
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>>144183921
>>144183812
oh!! Now i get it! Which means missiles launched towards the target have to be within the estimated range in order for the missiles to explode in time due to the proximity fuse right?

1) But is the VF-25 and VF-31 faster than the experimental valkyrie Guld is piloting?

2) So basically Guld did not perform pugachev cobra right?
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Is there another single coming out soon that'll hopefully contain Axia?
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>>144184392
This is the cobra
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>>144184427
Axia is already on the Walkure attack album.
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>>144184427
Why would it be on a single when it was already released on the album?
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>>144184478
Oh shit it is? I'm a dumbass then.
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>>144184390
You mean the scene before Guld get along with Isamu on earth? I thought that scene was just about huge explosions and Guld thought he was dead.
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>>144184390
Eh, the point of what he did there was more he cut the thrust so the heatseekers wouldn't go after his engine exhausts i thought?
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>>144184390
Isamu didn't do a Pugachev's Cobra. He cut the engines and rode the wind upward at the last second to dodge Guld's barrage.
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>>144184656
>>144184695

no he fires a lot of missiles at Isamu and then thinks he killed him,however Isamu appears right above him,so I've always assumed he pulled a corbra,it just makes sense to me since I can't think of another maneuver that could've gotten him out of there that fast.

>>144184757
this could be it too though
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What does this scene actually mean?

Picture from Macross F. episode 15 ending theme
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>>144184757
>>144184810
>He cut the engines and rode the wind upward at the last second to dodge Guld's barrage
>this could be it too though

Which means Isamu is indeed a skilled pilot to be able to pull that off on that precise timing?
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>Mirage J-list ad
>doesn't have anything on Mirage
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>>144184924
well if anything that's pretty obvious by now,Isamu's always been a pretty good pilot even if he relies a little on luck and instinct at times
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>>144184434
1) Is it possible to do that maneuver in space or its just applicable for atmospheric flights?

2) If its applicable in space, It should give less burden and strain towards the pilot's body right?
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>>144184951
poetry
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>>144185074
Hikaru does something similar in SDF where he props the legs forward to stop himself in space
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>>144167296
that would explain how Mirage got such a primo post despite being a shitty pilot: nepotism
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Dere Bogue when?
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>>144185580
Soon

No but seriously why would Minoringo be such a Boguefag if he didn't go dere at 'some' point.

Can't see her reaching that level of fangirlishness if he was still all like DIE WALKURE at ep 22.
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>>144185219
Oh which scene was that? In which episode did he do that? Just curious because i thought hikaru is just normal pilot like a normal soldier does
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>>144185917
dunno the episode
>normal pilot
well pilots need to learn flight maneuvers
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>>144184197
I never skipped Seventh Moon through the entirety of my watch of 7. All 50 episodes I listened to it. I had to give it the edge for that
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>>144184820
Taking over the entire galaxy in one large connected system probably
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>>144186172
This is one of the three sakuga moments in SDF
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>>144186517
Refering to the fold network is it?
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>>144186172
Oh i remember this ! I think he did couple of times with that maneuver ! Is there a name for that? It looks like Graham Special for me, the technique which Graham always show off with in 00
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>>144187170
Yes, but more specifically, it's taking over the galaxy as a whole under one group, which is true that it's something the Protoculture was unable to do
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>>144187303
So is the windermere's mind control similar to that?
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>>144187375
With the whole galaxy-wide thing, I'd say so at this point
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>>144187287
Why would there be a name for a maneuver that is only possible with a fictional sci-fi plane
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>>144187910
Why not? Maybe in the future we will have variable fighter planes?
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>>144188316
Why would there be a name for a maneuver that is only possible with a plane that doesn't exist yet
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>>144188365
Because it can be a memorable trademark for the franchise itself. Such as the immelman dance and so on. These are the tiny little things which allow us to ponder on when it comes to nostalgia
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>>144188591
>What is Itano Circus
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>>144188685
Trademark for full spam missile fireworks ?
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>>144188782
Macross coined it
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>>144188814
Glad to hear it! Thats basically what i meant from the previous reply.
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We will be at episode 16 with the next episode and I find myself wondering, has there been much plot progression in comparison to Frontier at this point?
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>>144189010
did frontier even have a plot at this point?
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>>144189010
Same shit.
Delta has much better pacing with all the action and political events but in terms of actual plot progression it's as slow as Frontier.
I don't expect we will get real answer to all the mysteries before episode 20 or so.
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>>144188316
>Maybe in the future we will have variable fighter planes?
Lol no. The VF in Macross are a fucking engineer's worst fucking nightmare, no way are you going to be able to fit all those moving parts into an airframe the size of a modern fighter and still have it be flight capable, even if it somehow could fly the thing would break constantly, the maintenance hours alone would kill any utility you could get out of it. Then of course there's the problem of the inverse square law with the robot form, the actual tactical utility of the gerwalk and battroid modes. Even if you could build giant fighting robots and had a legitimate military reason to do so, there's zero reason to try and fit it into a multi-role fighter, you'd just be compromising the capabilities of both platforms.
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>>144177562
GORIGORI
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>>144176628
To be fair, he's probably right in that the NUNS just want to use the ruins for themselves.
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>>144191640
He probably isn't even aware of what NUNS special division is doing.

Unless NUNS was investigating the ruins 7 years ago and force the windies to bomb them to get them out of there, and thereby put him onto their scent. Their current actions originating from that, up to the point of them now wanting to take over the galaxy.

But, they're apple farmers. So, I'm not sure I can expect that much from them. I don't think this is how it went. I think the windies were probably in the process of playing with the ruins (network) with NUNS decided to put an end to it (7 years ago). Depending on what they were up to, could still put NUNS on the side of "good guys", in that they were taking care of terrorist activities. I could see that.
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NUNS fucked up when they didn't finish the job. Now their fuckup will cost humanity greatly.
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>>144166107
CUTE!
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>>144189010
-SDF Episode 15: Minmay visits family. Introduces Kaifun

-7 episode 15: That air show episode with all the old VFs (If we wanted to compare by time, 7 episode 30 was when they realized the Protodevlin could mind control the allied forces and Basara could sing them back to normal with Sound Boosters...hey wait a minute)

-F Episode 15: Half recap episode, half "WHAT 'BOUT MY STAR" song battle
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ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR
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>>144193299
Literally the most underrated Minmay song
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>>144193299
Ah ONE TWO-!
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>>144193299
I LOVE THE MARINE CORPS
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>>144193458
Yeah, I'm listening to it now. It's got a real 80s vibe to it, but still very nice.
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>>144169277
Just searched the game, they sure looks almost same, other than Heinz gender swapped.
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>>144193734
Heinz/Mirage confirmed?
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>>144192657
If only Zents had finished their job 60 years ago...
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>>144194253
History has taught us one thing: finish the fucking job.
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>>144194306
I wish Kawamori finished his second openings, they always look lazy and terrible.
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>>144194430
But MUH LION is great.
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>>144194969
DA-I-SU-KI DE DA-I-KI-RAI
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>>144189010
Frontier's pacing was way too fast
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>>144189010
They should have used 14 for something more than just docking. It'd be different if it actually progressed Hayate and Mirage. But it couldn't even do that. So, it turned out to be a filler. Not the best use of time.
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>>144166107
>it's a i-i-idol scoob!
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>>144183651
Good taste
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they should start producing Messer keychains, it should be easy money at this point
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I'm confused. I need help from the mecha fans, and enginer smart people. How strong is Kieth and the average Winderemere when compared to others from past series, and present.

Because of their heightened abilities and runes, aren't the average windies stronger than the average normals of other races?
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I'd have liked the windie knights much more if they had simply shown more struggle to get to where they are. But, all we've seen from them is muh superiority and muh protoculture heritage. There hasn't been enough obsticles in their way. So, it's been 15 eps of cake walk.

No wonder the nippons think the knights are boring. It's not really a battle if it's one-sided. Why didn't Kawamori realize this early on?
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>>144196708
That's what the second half is for. It's going to be the downfall of the knights and them being betrayed by someone. Most likely the person funding them. That's how the eventually reconcile and join with Delta, which probably happens around episode 22.

The Knights have had there fare share of struggles, but it is presented in the form of their (past). Kawamori isn't dumb, and his shows and storylines are always a success. Don't doubt that madman, he is taking advantage of the second half to establish Knights since we are comfortable with Chaos.

Everything will reveal itself in due time. Except kumokumo of course.
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>>144197013
>and his shows and storylines are always a success.
What are Evol, Logos, Nobunaga, Basquash, AKB 2nd season?

The problem is who is the main director and the series composer.
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>>144194969
scans when
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>>144195914
I'd throw money at that if I could also buy a Kaname keychain
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>>144195542
I'm so fucking confused, why don't they use episode 14 for Mirage's character development?
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Windermere is in a Fold Fault region. Megaroad 4 accidentally found Windermere 4 due to a Fold Fault.

So naturally there would be fold comm lag but it is surprisingly real time for the coronation. The reason why is that Windermere has access to Fold Quartz equipment. Zauberflute or Magic Flute was a Fold Quartz equipped comm system which was the cover for Critical Path Corporation's Sound Jamming System. The Zauberflute was mentioned to be a part used on Sigur Valens Sound Wave System. Users of the Sound Jamming System were Critical Path, Anti-UN Zentradi group Black Rainbow and Earth supremacist group Lactence which was overthrown off Earth. It is likely Macross Galaxy has access to that technology as Critical Path president Manfred Brando was an associate of theirs and became data entity after being killed by Aegis Focker in a dogfight.

Elysion Foundation which is providing Windermere with technology could be in association with any of those groups. Though the strongest hints in interviews is Anti-UN due to the Sv-262 was developed by Anti-UN related persons to the ones who developed the Sv-51.

Mr. Berger a Middle Eastern guy could be a throwback to SDF Macross. The Unification War started on the Middle Eastern country Republic of Garelia.
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>>144195542
Well, to be fair, all that docking was pretty sexully-oriented.

So, maybe we're actually meant to reinterpret it all into the idea that sex does happen. Mirage and Hayate, Macross and the Ragna city. Etc.

No, seriously. They can't show sex directly, so they allude to it. Maybe Kawamori really wants us to make connections like this. Like he did in Frontier movies with the non-totally-blowjob scene. Mirage-fags could use this to bring some more strength to their shipings.
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>>144199147
Who needs that when we can have Walkure performing as a distraction while workers try repairing the broken ship? sigh
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>>144199471
That's all very interesting. But where do you get such detailed stuff from? Is just just fanfic, or are these groups you've mentioned a genuine thing in macross?
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>>144199500
Who the fuck can use that as shipping material? Hayate didn't reacted anything to her boobs.
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>>144199658
He's gay
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>>144200257
Hayate/Keith become Max/Millia2.0 when?
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>>144200458
BougeXHayate
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>>144199614
Japanese wikipedia Macross VF-X2 page and Macross Delta page, Sketchley's Macross Chroncle translations and Macross Compendium.

Macross VF-X2 was basically the UN Spacy civil war between the Earth supremacist faction Lactence and pro-NUN decentralization faction Vindirance. Think Titans and AEUG. Critical Path Corporation a PMC allied with Lactence sells weapons in the black market to Zentradi Anti-UN group Black Rainbow. This was to destabilize frontier planets who recently had their sovereignty due to the NUN reorganization giving Earth greater influence over them as they send central UN Spacy special forces such as the VF-X Ravens to reinforce them. Also for the Black Rainbow group to test the system Lactence would use for its coup of Earth. Vindirance is group of UN Spacy officers that got wind of the plot and gong rogue to stop Lactence. VF-X Ravens defect to Vindirance freeing Earth by taking out Lactence's control of the defense grid by damaging the Sound Jamming System equipped on the SDF-1 Macross and Macross 13 aka Battle 13. The Sound Jamming System is a fold jamming Anti-FCS that affects targeting computers.
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GORI GORI
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=57914318
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>>144197013
>That's how the eventually reconcile and join with Delta
>implying Delta is going to take in the same shitters who took control of their planet and killed their comrades
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>>144201956
this better get scanned once its done
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>>144193530
This is one of her best songs man
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Why is this thread suddenly so quiet?
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>>144204077
I think it's because it was a windie episode last time, and so... nothing to talk about. Something like that.

But this is better than those other two spurging on about titan lust and their own gay tendencies.
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Where exactly does Fire Bomber American show up?
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>>144204577
They don't. It was just some weird album with fire bomber songs made in english.
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>>144197855
I thought Evol was a success
I can't say the same for the rest however
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>>144192764
what the fuck
I didn't realize it before, but she's into zombie plushie
that explains the spoopy OP's pic
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>From wikipedia: Kawamori pointed out that the delta symbol in the logo is made of triangular symbols to symbolize the three main thematic elements of Macross: music, a love triangle, and Valkyries. However, he also noted that the two symbols are split, and explained that this is indicative that the three elements will not come together as expected in the new story

So, has Kawamori just explicitly stated that love isn't going to feature in this macross? Since we've got songs and valkyries, that leaves love out of things. So, maybe Hayate really is gay, and he can't date the windies, so... that's that, I guess? Freyja and Mirage like sisters/tutor. The End.
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>>144205460
>the three elements will not come together as expected in the new story
eh, I read it as how one of the main element (presumably love triangle) won't have any significant impact on the main story
the sentence doesn't outright said that he will leave out one of the element, and the forbes interview already confirmed that love triangle is in there due to the producers' request or something
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>>144205460
It's not mystery that Kawamori didn't want to have a love triangle. This doesn't mean he wanted to dump out love all together. He could just as well have wanted it to be a story about an OTP that were clearly gonna get together from the start, with no third wheel.

Sponsors wanted a triangle though, so it does have one, even if it's described as a 'faint' triangle.
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>>144205384
Vol 1 total sales 9,638
Vol 9 total sales 5,509
The second cour killed it.
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Dead. So so so dead.

Anyway, I'm watching macross II. I know it's non-canon. But, I can't say it's shit. Actually, it has the same feel that the old macross had. So, it's interesting like that.
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>>144207405
It'll stop being "interesting" soon enough and just end up doing things similiarily to the original.

Honestly. It's painfully mediocre in every aspect besides animation and mikimoto character designs
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>>144207405
Is macross II worth watching? The reason why i haven't watch Macross II yet is because :-

1) Macross apologists say that it's not canon and story is shit.

2) Furthermore they say the technological gap of the macross II timeline compare to the original SDF makes it a bit non-sense the fact that previous Macross series such as Macross F. and Macross Delta are more technological advance compare to Macross II

Just to ask for your point of view whether the above statements mentioned by Macross Apologists are true.
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>>144207694
Well, I have about an hour left. Then I'll tell you what I thought of it. But, sure, it's OK to watch if you don't have anything else in your backlog. It's only 2 hours, after all.
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>>144207815
alright will be waiting for your opinions. Thanks alot!
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>>144207694
>Apologist
I don't think you're using that word correctly. Unless you mean to imply that all macross is shit, and you're suspecting that macross II to maybe not be shit, because its not like macross.

Reasons I don't like Macross II, basicly comes down to it not involving Kawamori whatsoever. Oh but that's just some meaningless fanboy reasoning you say to yourself. No, but it's a deciding factor as to why so many problems I have with it, are a thing to begin with. It basicly comes down to there being no vision for setting.
In Macross two, we're some 80 years after DYRL, and nothing has happened. Earth is pretty much the same it was in the original (albeit rebuilt, and more futuristic, its 2092 after all). There was no great plan to seed the galaxy with colonies to ensure that mankind not (almost) be wiped out by a single attack ever again. There's no expanded world. Earth has been sitting on it's asses, building defenses, and relying on its minmay defense to save them every time earth is threatened by aliens. There's only been one generation of new Variable fighters since the original, the VF2, and it's pretty much a boring rehash of the VF-1. Seriously though, Macross without Kawamori designed valkyries isn't Macross. The lack of vision is also felt in the show itself. It's just another alien attack, though this time they have their own singers. Heck, I struggle to remember anything noteworthy in the show, all I can come up with is the inexplicable Sylvie ending out of nowhere, which is just a soulless repeat of Hikaru not choosing Minmay in DYRL. It happened for literally no other reason. Kawamori is mostly known for his designs, and directing memorable fight and concert scenes, none of which are present in II.
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>>144205460
>So, has Kawamori just explicitly stated that love isn't going to feature in this macross?
How the fuck did you get that from that quote? Not to mention they keep talking about the love triangle in interviews, calling it light and such. It just means, he's going to play certain things out differently
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>>144207694
I didn't like Macross II because I thought it was kind of boring and it felt like they wanted to just coast off of DYRL but it may be worth watching just to see the mindset of what the franchise looks like in the hands of someone that isn't Kawamori

>the fact that previous Macross series such as Macross F. and Macross Delta are more technological advance compare to Macross II
This is true though
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>>144208047
Contrast that with Macross Plus, another OAV that was made not so long after II and does involve Kawamori, and we have an OAV that's not only initially set on an alien world colonized by humans, it tries something new by having the main conflict being between two VF pilots, and what is likely the first virtual idol in anime history. While I can't remember any scene from II as particularly memorable (just visually here), I can think of dozens from plus, from Sharon's concert scenes to, to the intense battle with Isamu vs rogue zentraedi at the very start of episode 1, to the flying acrobatics on planet Eden, to Isamu's and Guld's final showdown and the involvement of the old Macross.

Now I'm just lining up setting and visual elements here, people's mileage may vary a lot on the story and characters of plus which is all fine and dandy. But the two series are both short oavs made relatively close in time together, so are very comparable. And I just find it clear why I like one a lot and think nothing of the other.
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Bogue!
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>>144208504
a qt
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From the event.
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>>144187910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtUWlAIsLrQ
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>>144208504
>ruining this pure boy
NUNS complete genocide can't come soon enough.
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>>144208667
Protip: they weren't reffering to Pugachev
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>>144208504
I don't think I can handle seeing the moment shota Bogue's smile breaks when he's told half of his family is dead.
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>>144208657
based KENN
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>>144208657
>fangirling Minoringo
CUTE!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ0D6eeqrAw
This is Macross Frontier's best opening theme, Agree?
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>>144208825
Not really. I think that's Ranka's best song though.
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I sincerely hope the next episode is a god-tier episode. This series needs another boost before the first volume goes on sale.
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>>144208825
Movie-Ranka is a lot different than TV-Ranka. My view of her changed, having finally watched the movies. Most of the characters improved, actually. But it was really needed in Ranka's case.
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>>144208504
>Smile not protected

Seriously fuck the NUNS
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAWUue_Cf9g
I swear this is Ranka's moment in the TV series
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>>144209077
It actually surprised me when she started singing that song. Totally, totally surprised me to see she could do so well. I was actually expecting Sheryl to get them out of it, but it was Ranka. I agree. It was her moment.
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>>144208976
I haven't watch the movies, what kind of difference can you point out for Ranka?
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>>144166107
shes cute, just don't go into her turf
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>>144209149
Like, she doesn't hesitate nearly as much,, barely at all even.
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>>144209139
That's her real shining moment and her KIRA became a big meme.
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>>144209077
Who cares, she still lost?
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>>144209729
lost? she is at least better than walkure though.
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>>144209729
Rude. At least she being cute with Brera.
>>144209769
Nah
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>>144209926
Ranka did more for the person she loves than frejya. Frejya did nothing but only sing
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>>144210045
0/10.
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>>144210235
FREJYA FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH!!!

HAIL MIRAGE!!!
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Reading this thread was fucking painful. Why are Macrossfags so obsessed with who wins or loses, there's so many other things these shows do well.
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>>144210045
>Frejya did nothing but only sing
That save Hayate's life.
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>>144210313
No one remembers who came second place, that's why no one cares about Minmay/Mao/Mylene/Ranka/Freyja.
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>>144210336
More like no one cares about bland and boring Sara. Mao was great.
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>>144210313
It's the frontier fags that are still kicking.
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>>144210336
>Minmay
She's a face of franchise anon. Stop pulling thing out from your ass.
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>>144210336
Noone gives a shit about Misa. Literally not a shit. She won. But no shits are given. Like holy fuck how deluded can you be?
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Does anyone even like Mylene? She's pretty annoying and it's hard to see her as a love interest.
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Even fujoshi's ship them
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>>144210606
Why is he eating her hair?
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Why no one praises Minmay? Isn't she like the main icon to why macross is so successful till this day?
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>>144210528
Well, the thing is, she was a typical fourteen year old. Basara wasn't interested in her, because of that. But it was funny to watch her try to make something with him. I liked that aspect. But then again, I had no expectation of her winning anything (other than hooking up with her other option).

I'd just like to know what Basara is doing these days!
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>>144210528
She was cute and a product of an era when there weren't that many like her.
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>>144210045
>Ranka did more for the person she loves than frejya.
No she didn't, she actually hurt Alto more than anything else. The same holds true for Brera.
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>>144210528
I like Mylene, I always found her stupidity to be an endearing trait and she does have a clear character arc throughout the series. But mostly because I love her songs and think they're severely underrated in the grand scheme of the franchise.

Also protip: Mylene is the centre of the triangle, Basara is the love interest.
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>>144207832
Yeah, I watched it. You probably already what that other anon had to say about it. I really doesn't add much to the macross franchise, so you can skip it if you want.

But, if you just treat it as a movie, it's fine. There are some good characters in it, and the visuals remind me of both the old macross TV series, but also of the macross movie (since it was made after, they took the macross designs from it).

The ending is a bit underwhelming, but it was OK. It's even OK to just treat it as a movie set in the macross world, like they do with the other things. There's no harm in watching it. And it doesn't take that long, so why not?
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>>144210606
Watching them is like watching shoujo pairing.
>>144210811
>hurt Alto
Can you explain?
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>>144210861
alright! thanks for your opinions, i will give it a try
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>>144210812
>Mylene is the centre of the triangle, Basara is the love interest.
Yeah, she is. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. But that's what makes it so laughable. Basara wants nothing to do with her. Nothing at all.

He's much more interested in Rex and Sivil and Mylene's big sister. Anyone other than Mylene, in fact.
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>>144211037
Why he so perfect?
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>>144211062
She's in the real imouto-zone.
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>>144211037
Beautiful. Best boy everybody.
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So, why doesn't Kawamori hire some fanfic writers to write some after stories for these series?

Does he just wan to keep things open so that he could extend them if/when he gets the money to do so? Is that his game?
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>>144211104
Gamlin kick
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>>144211062
I dunno. You could say that Basara also had a triangle (Mylene / Sivil) but like you said, Basara was never interested in Mylene to begin with and honestly, I'm pretty certain his interest in Sivil and Rex was never romantic either. Both of them were like the mountain, a challenge for his music, because even after they kiss him he doesn't treat them any differently. Emilia was probably the closest thing to romance Basara was shown to have, it was getting a bit hot and heavy before her housecave got wrecked.
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>>144211312
you speak as if there aren't novels, mangas and other adaptations and spinoffs.
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>>144211361
Basara is Guitarsexual
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>>144211361
She's hotter
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>>144211363
I know there's an after story manga of Frontier. I heard about that one. But, are there other continuations? Like proper ones?
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>>144211361
I wish Emilia had been the female MC of 7.
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>>144211336
Too perfect for this world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ3S3SGTUUg
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One thing Frontier edges over Delta is that they showed the light shock while folding in which Delta lacks. That is like glorious animated piece from Macross series.
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>>144211361
You know when that reporter girl followed Basara and got to watch him with Sivil, I think she saw love. Or something. That's what she hinted at when she quit her job. She wanted to focus on finding love too. Or that's how I saw it. It might be wrong, but I think that's what she was from Basara's singing to that lovely space elf-vampire.
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>>144210045
>Frejya did nothing but only sing
>did nothing
did you forget about freyja's lecturing hayate about finding "the place he wants to go" instead of wandering around aimlessly in ep 1?
cause hayate sure as hell don't, and it becomes the basis of why he became a pilot and considers ragna to be his hometown
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>>144211588
Well, you can paint that picture if you want, but that's kind of a reach, don't you think?

I think it was mostly luck that he found his feet. Mostly, he was comfortable with accompanying Freyja to her music thing. He had no job, so why not? Then, Arad stepped in, and the wind caught him. I wouldn't necessarily put that down to what Freyja said that one time.

And yeah, I know he parroted it back that one time. It's still a reach that I wouldn't hold as an example.
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>>144211708
>Well, you can paint that picture if you want, but that's kind of a reach, don't you think?
no, there's a reason why kawamori or the director put that scene in.
luck? yes maybe, but doesn't change the fact she DOES have a certain degree of influence on hayate's decision.
instead of the word "luck", you can even call it "fate".
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So it is all thanks to Leon and Grace O' Conner that the NUNS have their hands on the MDE bomb???
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>>144211467
>only hugging
>not even kissing
Too pure.
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Currently on episode 19 of Macross Frontier. I like how they mash up the endings and openings together instead of having the same song played for each cour of the series. Like ending theme of episode 19 happens to be "Triangular" as its ending.
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>>144212498
Yeah and that song's very suit that scene.
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Why Ranka, why?
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>>144211708
Now that's just delusion at its finest. Watch episode 14 again, there's a scene where they're talking about home and doing the things they love. Hayate stands up and says "not just anywhere but somewhere you want to go". That's what Freyja said to him in the first episode. Which was actually the point where Hayate looked at her in amazement and from there you can see the shift in his interactions with her and his motivation.

Stop trying to devalue a characters importance just because you don't like them.
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Walkure replaces Bogues dead sisters.
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Sheryl being able to sing in the midst of despair is a proof that she is way better than Walkure
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I remember the first time I saw Freyja I couldn't shake the feeling of a very similar character until it clicked

They're both incredibly cute. Even though I disagree with Ohana's ship choice at the end.
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>>144213386
Ohana is shit just like Freyja
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>>144213440
No.
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>>144213204
>Freyja could sing while a crazy Var guy was about to tear her face off
>Mikumo could sing after being buried under a ton of rubble
>Walkure could sing while a bunch of Windermere missles were heading straight for them
>Walkure calmed an entire ship that was on the verge of a panic attack
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>>144213440
Your life must be very sad if your source of satisfaction is insulting fictional characters
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Why is the thread suddenly so quiet again?
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>>144214496
Given that right now, the non silence is mostly shit posts, it stands to reason that there's not so many worthwhile posts to make at the moment.
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>>144214496
Stop bumping the thread. If there's nothing to discuss let the thread die. Having threads for the sake of having threads results in shitty threads. General threads usually result in nothing but image dumping and regurgitated "discussion."
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>>144211037
>mfw Koyasu just voice Edge and Villains guys today
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>>144213204
Sheryl is better than anyone else tho, that's not a fair comparison.
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It's always fun going to the very first threads of when Delta began and seeing the comparison to now.

Nobody was really expecting anything from Freyja and all the hype was on Mirage as a Jenius pilot and love interest.

If only we knew back then how Freyja would end up stealing most of our hearts.
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>>144214876
It's Kawamori's magic.
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>>144214876
Speak for your own shitty heart anon.
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>>144214953
That's why I said "most of our hearts" you bitter fuck.
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>>144214599
>>144214496
Why must it always be shit posting? Why can't someone just start a meaningful topic so that the discussion is meaningful?
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>>144214951
Yeah! I was also on the fence on Walkure as a whole but now I love them.
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>>144214876
I'm with you.
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>>144215148
I'm not saying it has to, but do you have a meaningful topic right now to bring up ? Unless you do, don't bump with meta posting about the lack of posts, when you see that just earlier, the typical posts were shit posts
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>>144215086
fuck off
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>>144214876
Are you on mirage's side or frejya's
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>>144214876
>freyjafags are this cringe
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>>144214876
I actually was completely out of the loop until Delta started airing (so far as not realizing it was a thing until it already was) that I saw the first episode without having seen so much as a promo art. So I had completely no preconception of what I was getting. And I've been loving what I've been getting since day one.
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I also remember really disliking Mikumo the first few episodes because of how much of a hardass when was to Freyja when she was clearly struggling to come to terms with Windermere going to war and having to choose a side.

I love me some shinpi now tho. It's so nice to see the natural progression of her character and how she's so aloof but very caring about Freyja. A very shinpi-onee-san.
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Why is hametsu no junjou so catchy? I just could not stop replaying
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>>144215276
I never really thought that myself, but I can get why some people would've. Shinpi is one of my favourites now though. I'm concerned over where she might be heading and why.
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>>144215222
Typically I tend to gravitate towards female characters like Mirage whose characteristics are supposed to be strongwilled, badass, won't take shit from anyone, etc. I can understand the whole dealing with a legacy thing but we're 2/3 of the series in and I see no progress on Mirage's side of things. Mirage has been a bit of a disappointment so far. I blame her lack of development and the fact that she's been reduced to screaming Hayate! Delta 4/5! And being a blushing mess.

On the other hand I generally find genki characters like Freyja to be absolutely annoying, childish and a waste of time. However Freyja has proven to be the exception to every rule I have. If anything she's shown how strongwilled she is, she's passionate, won't take shit from anyone, and perseveres. She's also surprisingly mature for her age which I find to be a breath of fresh air. Freyja's that character you have no hope for but then ends up punching you in the face with how amazing they are.
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>>144215276
>Hardass
Huh, I kinda always saw her as giving Freyja a dose of tough love rather than just straight up bullying her.

Like she really, really wants Freyja to perform well, but at the same time she realises that the girl needs some serious direction in order to perform to her full potential. Thus she takes the role of stern but caring onee-san in order to guide the young one.

I just want her to defect already so we can get some delicious student vs mentor drama
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>>144210892
She was being used by Alto to avoid the truth about himself, then you have her attitude when Brera becomes her protector, she allows Brera to manhandle Alto while not saying shit to stop it.

Not to forget her complete insensitivity to the fact that Alto's best friend died, despite the fact that he was killed right before her face.
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>>144213476
You're bringing this up like it's supposed to be impressive.
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>>144215933
Girigiri eye in episode 1 is very impressive though.
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>>144215812
I don't think she'll "defect" per se or get mentor vs student drama. If anything I think it'll be more of Mikumo temporarily leaving Walkure to try to find out more of her past and the load falling on Freyja's shoulders to take on Mikumo's share/become the lead.

But it'll definitely be delicious drama all around. I can see Freyja struggling to fill in the big shoes that Mikumo left behind but ultimately it'll serve for character growth which will be sorely needed leading up to the final battle.

Freyja has definitely been great so far, definitely the most fleshed out and progressed character of the series.However she's still got a long way to go before reaching a level where she can hold her ground in the final battle and have it be believeable that she can help lead Windermere into peaceful times.
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>>144216377
I'm 50/50 on the defect thing. If not defect, it'll be abandonment, but I think she'll have som reason for her actions in either case. It'll still be a struggle to fill in for her if she goes, and it's a turn i'm not adverse too.

I'll be upset if everything doesn't end amicably and Freyja Mikumo don't have a post series friendship. Well potentially anyway.
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>>144217015
For some reason I don't see Mikumo making it until the end of the series. With all the hints we've been getting so far I think Mikumo is heading toward sacrificing herself for a greater good. I know it's been said, but I see her demise having to do with saving Freyja/altering her lifespan. Something a la Madoka Magic. She'll probably transcend and become something like an ethereal being. Mikumo is to Freyja what Messer was to Hayate.
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I was rewatching this scene and I noticed this bit with Arad when he said he was in Windermere when the war was happening. Flashbacks when? Arad doesn't seem very proud of the fact that he fought in Windermere. It's one of the reasons why I think Hayate's dad couldn't have thrown that bomb, since he seems fond of him but to me it feels like he certainly is not particularly fond of NUNS, or at least about what they did back then.
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>>144217573
That makes sense. She wouldn't be 'removed' until the very end of the show though if that turns out to be the case. Oh well, as long as its done well I can probably accept it.
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>>144217573
>Mikumo is to Freyja what Messer was to Hayate.
Yes exactly. She'll act as the trigger for Freyja to git gud and take her game to the next level.

I honestly don't think they'll kill her off until the very end though, gotta milk those godly JUNNA vocals for all the singles they'll sell. But if she does go evil then hopefully we're gonna get some kickass villan songs.
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>>144217841
He said he hate the military right? Then it all make sense. Most of them who worked for private contractors basically hate militaries just like SMS
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>>144217841
I'm more and more thinking Hayate's dad may have dropped the bomb, as a result of VAR. Maybe one of the first victims. Would make him seem like a traitor to NUNS, and an attack to Windermere. Arad may have known him, thinking there's no chance he was a tratior who do such a thing, but doesn't know what happened, and can't exactly do much of an investigation either, because Windermere is off limits to begin and NUNS would probably be extra tight lipped if it was their bomb to begin with.
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>>144216171
Not really. The Walkure have barriers and drones to protect them, the other singers in Macross didn't.
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>>144218051
Hayate's dad dropping that bomb because of Var is a valid possibility. Now the question is who used him. A corrupt faction within NUNS or some third party like Epsilon?
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