Shingeki no Kyojin 83

>>144128185
Mikasa is in shock and desperate imagining that Armin is going to die.
There will not be any fight. They will give the serum to Armin..

>>144128553
And Erwin?

>>144128602
He's kill and wanted to die anway.

>>144128664
He's alive and didn't want to die.

>>144128602
He is going to die. I was prepared for that since chapter 60? more or less. It is Hange's turn now. But I am pretty sure Erwin will live enough to reach the basement.

>>144128697
He pretty much said he wants to die.

>>144128704
Say it isn't so. I love Hanji, she's awesome. But Erwin is the commander.

>>144128778
Where?

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>>144128866
When he talks with Levi. 2 chapters ago, chapter 71/70. Commanders come and go. It is Hange's turn now and Erwin is surprised by Armin's talents.

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>>144128866
The only thing that kept him alive was the basement.

>>144128982
Armin makes people stupid so he can appear smart by comparison. It's bad writing. But I don't recall him wanting to die.

>>144129013
"All I have to do is reach out and grab those answers"
I hope he regains consciousness and engages plot armour, then grabs the serum, and injects himself.

>>144129146
Hopefully not. The serum plot drama is annoying anyway.

>>144129183
I'm easily amused, the drama is fun for me.

>>144129146
>Armin makes people stupid so he can appear smart by comparison.
Erwin put him in command for a squad. If he talks about what he thinks is because they ask him. Mikasa, Jean, Eren all of them know they will need to count on Armin to make the decision. It is not about he is a genious and everybody else is stupid, they trust him and that's his talent.
That said, when Keith was commander, Erwin started to shine because of his large formations and it was a new way of thinking that determined Erwin's position right now.

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I just want Annie to return soon.

>>144129602
>Erwin put him in command for a squad.
He put him in command of a squad after he said something that should have been blindingly obvious to everyone else.
Armin's talent is estimation, more than his intelligence. He makes assumptions and picks the most likely.

>That said, when Keith was commander, Erwin started to shine because of his large formations and it was a new way of thinking that determined Erwin's position right now.
I don't quite get your point.

>>144129798
It has been a long time. Soon, with luck.

Whatever is in the basement will make 60-70℅ of the fanbase hate wall people.
Mark this post.

>>144129883
>blindingly obvious
It wasn't. Erwin was surprised because he never thought about that. He makes assumptions, but the right ones, depending of the situation. He corroborated Hange's theory about the CT that resulted in his death.

>I don't quite get your point.
Both Erwin and Armin were capable to surprise people around them. They don't make people around more idiot or something because of that, it's their talent. None of the soldiers consider it like that.

>>144129883
>Soon, with luc
I hope so anon.

>Armin's talent is estimation, more than his intelligence
I agree. Wasn't that the whole point of showing that Armin couldn't lead and let Jean take over? From the recent chapter as well, it seems like Hanji is gonna groom Jean too.

>>144130084
Care to elaborate on why you think that?

>>144130088
How was it not obvious? I'm genuinely asking what makes you say that.

Being capable of surprising someone doesn't equate to being intelligent.

>>144130130
I like the idea of Jean being groomed for command. It's been alluded to a few times, but I feel as though it's been a bit of a focal point recently.

>>144130243
The thing is, they both are intelligent. A simple mind could not reach such conclusions.

>>144130130
Jean suits better in the Garrison or MP. He has such a noble and generous heart and he even doubt about what he's thinking when Hange was ready to kill Reiner.

Everyone is over thinking this. Erwin is going to cough up some blood, say save Armin, and then die.

>>144130391
Pretty much.

>>144130309
Nonsense. They both are intelligent, but not so much so that nobody else could reach the conclusions they come too.

>>144130391
Probably, but I hope not.

>>144130391
I think Erwin will know what's in the basement and then will die.

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>>144130373
>has such a noble and generous heart
I agree. Jeanbo best boy

>>144130448
That nonsense was mentioned in the manga since chapter 1. They can think in a different way and that's why they came to these conclusions.
If you want to devalue their contributions, it's your problem.

>>144130391
>Erwin is going to cough up some blood, say save Armin,
This.

>and then die.
With some luck they manage to drag him to the basement first.

>>144130084
>>144130243
The basement contains proof of the lost history of the world, being books, Grisha's journals, tecnology or other things.
So far everyone who knows something about that history has called wall people "evil", the fact that the FK called wall people "sinners" and the neccesity to "save" the coordinate power from them.

Long ago the first ones in the wall did something, and the walls were constructed for their protection and to keep the inside, like a prison.

>>144130728
It is either than Eren has the power to turn titans into humans or Grisha left a hint of an antidote to heal those titans.
The rest is information.

>>144130665
I'm not trying to devalue the characters, their contributions or their portrayal, but saying that divergent thinking is at all special is nonsense. They are simply written in as being more competent when the situation demands it.

>>144130728
That's neato.

LM soon.

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>>144131030
For you anon. Also noice.

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I want these two to hug each other at the end of the road.

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>>144131072
Double noice.

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>>144131135
C-cute.

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Isayama why?

>>144131718
>this much fanart over side characters
I don't know whether to laugh or be impressed at this fanbase. Hitch is better off with Jean anyway

>>144131779
JH will happen soon.

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>>144131718
Because he's making the paveway for JH.

>>144131718
CUTE!

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>>144131779
JH is cute but art of it is basically non existant. I am rooting for it at this point. Everything is either MH or HA. and that one YHitch thing

>>144132009
We will be happy when we get official panels. Just wait. Nothing is better than that.

>>144131864
As was foretold by Jean's birthday prophecy.

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>>144132107
There's always this?

>>144132153
And more for coming.

>>144131135
"More than a hug" but I know it's literal.

Did we drive away all the bertfags? I barely see any Bertposting anymore. I miss God-posting

>>144128185
Isayama isn't going to kill a main character anymore than George Martin is willing to kill Jon Snow or Daenerys. Faggot probably saw the Jon Snow resurrection and thought it would be a good idea. You'll see, Armin is going to be back, and it'll prove that the manga does have plot armor, just all the other cliche anime that AoT love to bitch about while ignoring their obvious hypocrisy.

I want Bert to get out of this alive.

>>144130930
I disagree. Grisha only told Eren about the basement when he showed his will to join the SL, as Grisha considers them special for their need to leave the walls and their inquisitive nature. The wall wasn't breached then and he still didn't have the coordinate.

He just wanted to teach him about the lost history of humanity, probably the proof of what they did to the outside world.

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>>144132414
My only gods are the Wholy Trinity.

>>144132519
Well Jon Snow is supposedly the song of ice and fire which means he has Eren's level of plot armour. Armin is a piece of shit and can't be compared to Jon anon.

>>144132414
I'm always here.

>>144132703
Nice. But it honestly seems like Bertposting has died down compared to last year. I like it desu ;_;

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So we asume the basement is still intact?

>>144132640
Don't worry, he will.

>>144132682
This butthurt.

>>144132797
Yes.

>>144132414
It's hard to funpost when your shingeki is unconscious and used as serum fodder. Maybe the mood will lighten up if he survives, which is likely to happen.

>>144132797
Is underground.

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Soon

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>>144132519
>Armin is going to be back.
Yes he is.

>>144132841
>which is likely to happen.
Not really.

>>144132841
I made my peace with Erwin dying, you should too.

>>144132857
Yes, but maybe it colapsed idk.
God i hope it's worth it, they built up the hype for so long, what if the basement is just some more clues, maybe the location of zeke's camp/village.

>>144132841
>if he survives
He really has to. All his feelings for Annie and no closure? That would be fucking terrible considering we got muhh ocean for god, sorry Bert knows how many times

How odd would be if Zeke and Eren are actually brothers and Zeke was talking about Grisha when he was going "muh Dady"?

>>144132819
>calling a character a piece of shit
>gets accused of being butthurt
Sorry Arminfag, I'm not you.

>>144132519
Armin is going to live but he's not getting a serum, he's basically going to be Griffith'd.

>>144132894
I never liked armin.
But man, being turn into a medium-rare steak is an horrible way to go
>>144132971
They most probably are. Maybe zeke is some kind of clone or some shit.

>>144133000
I am not an Arminfag. This thread was very calm and you should take it easy.

>>144132971
Zeke now seem to be Grisha's age when he died, isn't that too close to be father and son?
Maybe an older brother influenced by their father views on the walled people.

I have a question, is SNK taking place on a paralel earth? And if it is, where do you think is taking place? Europe? Asia?

>>144133004
If someone is going to change sides it will be Eren. And even so, he will keep with his ideology.

>>144132909
I thought I made my peace with it but it's just hard to accept that he will have such a random and anticlimactic death without any proper closure. We already saw everything about Erwin barring the basement, while we still barely know anything about Bert. There's also his role in the story and I honestly can't see anyone replacing him.

I want Bert and Reiner to die.
Annie can suffer more.

>>144133126
I just meant in physical terms, but I do kind of think Armin will be far more brutal thanks to what happened to him. But still, he will remain on humanity's side.

I agree that Eren will be switching sides after he learns what the warriors are doing.

>>144133082
Europe. German, Austria.

>>144133164
>and I honestly can't see anyone replacing him.
Reiner or Annie.

>>144132671
Blessed Be!

>>144133195
Still not the colossal titan. Even isayama said the CT is more important in various interviews.

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>>144133195
They're a trio with distinct character and personalities. Imagine if
>Armin replaces Bert in the trio

>>144133174
Yeah sure but I think he is going to be more confident and serious. Physically talking, the same but maybe change his hair. Prove enough he has matured.

>>144133254
It's not just his character and already existing relationships, but his role in the story. CT is not a random titan on humanity's side, he represents everything humanity fears.

>>144133248
>various
I only remember the Gekkan magazine and that is based on the anime. It's also possible he meant CTs in general, which also includes the ones in the walls.

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>>144133254
He will not leave humanity's side.

>>144133336
That's why we got the parallel from Volume 1 with humanity finally defeating him.

>>144133343
Nope, I meant interviews like the one for the live action. Plus he said that CT representing god will play a role in the story in the future.

>>144132971
It could be a possibility. Grisha could have been sleeping for years, like Ymir, and then return to reality. I bet he has another family.

>>144133362
>he will not leave humanity's side
>"you need to be a monster to defeat a monster!"
Tbh Armin is the most likely one. All his talk about sacrificing humanity to save it would one day bite him in the ass especially after being 'killed' cruelly deservedly by Bert. You know, stare too long at the abyss and shit

>>144133392
If this was the scene marking CT's ending it would have made the volume cover.

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>>144133221
You too!

>>144133467
I don't think so anon. His parents were murdered by the goverment and even so, he did not keep grudges or anything. It is just his way of thinking and he proved humanity's loyalty when he decided to sacrifice his life for it.

>>144133448
Maybe the interview meant the FK? It was called God in the manga.

>>144133536
It would be spoiler.

>>144133639
He didn't care about putting spoilers in any other volume.

>>144133536
If someone ate Bert would they not be the new CT?

>>144133636
He was obviously referring to the future of the manga, and the FK/Uri/Frieda weren't CTs.

>>144133172
Suffer how?

>>144133727
They would need a CT serum. They only have a normal titan serum.

>>144132971
I've liked this idea for some time now, I thought that maybe he ages faster because he uses his powers more than others. And now I'm starting to get kind of excited for it after reading this post.
http://yusenki.tumblr.com/post/147231033518/im-on-the-rare-part-of-the-fandom-who-forgot-the

>>144133783
So the CT power can't be stolen?

>>144133915
Doesn't seem so.

>>144133768
She learns Bert died after she awakes?

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LEVI YOU SLOW PIECE OF SHIT WHY DIDN'T YOU KILLED HIM QUICKLY
>>144133183
Well, they must travel quite a long distance to see the sea

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>>144133910
Who's comment is that supposed to be on the Hitch fanart post below? ("She has walked into a different path from Marlo…I want to draw a stand-alone story about Hitch’s later story! *petition*) I'd sign that petition.

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>>144132971
This is obvious as fuck. Zeke is Eren's older brother.

There's been about ~10 years since Grisha died, remember. So Zeke had ten years to age and look similar to Grisha.

>>144132971
That was my theory from the start. I'm glad people are catching on.

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Post images of shingekis doing everyday tasks!

>>144134377
I remember that kek. No one believed it was possible.

>>144134047
>implying Annie won't feel happy the moment she hears that Bert's death saved Arumin

>>144134415
I'll admit I was reaching in my post but I really believed in it.

I still think the warriors have age-reversing technology.

>>144133082
We don't know much about the SnK world save for what's inside the walls, it's kind of a major plot point. It could be parallel Earth-seems the fauna and flora of the world include species found on Earth. The Walls themselves could be situated somewhere in central Europe, or if there's a grain of truth to the story from the cover it could be North America. It could also be another world that's similar to Earth but has a different geographic layout etc.

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>>144134179
>>144134377
Still, they seem to be close in age, maybe 10-15 years apart more or less.
Too close to be father and son.

I want Farthole to die already

>>144134560
Zeke ages faster and it will happen the same to Eren.

>>144134560
That's why when I talked about my theory I mentioned age-reversing technology. >>144134480

Basically there's a few point that make readers believe Grisha and Zeke are a lot older than they are. Like when MT said he wasn't sure what language the wall people spoke anymore, and when Grisha came to the walls with absolutely nothing and was still able to produce a vaccine for a plague-like sickness.

>>144134524
This is a good representation of Levi, he's bloody ripped. I never understand why some authors decide to draw Levi as being skinny just because he's small.

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>>144134660
I think so too that there's more tecnologic advancement outside the walls as how that plague was controlled, but as much as reverse aging? I doubt it.
And aging faster, I couldn't find any clue about this, what are you basing this on?

>>144134833
Uri?

>>144134833
Not that anon, but when Uri died it looked like he was 80 or something like that and there was huge age gap between him and his brother.

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>Child abuse
>Child abandonment
>Blatant favoritism

Zeke is the shittiest uncle in existence.

>>144134907
Kenny was old as fuck too, a long time had passed, plus he said he was sick.

So if Zeke is Eren's brother should we stop calling him uncle and start calling him oniichan instead?

>>144135240
Jikku-niichan!

>>144135118
It is just a theory but Grisha could be a mindless titan like Ymir and then he return to human again. Years could pass.

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>>144134953
Don't know the exact age difference between Rod and Uri, but Rod for sure said Uri was the younger one. Oh and Uri had a cane too, he just looked unhealthy overall. Guess even the regenerative powers only help so much.

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>>144133578
You seem to have found some new Hitch and Marlos. They're super cute!

>>144135374
Or maybe the Jaeger bloodline is special in terms of near-mortality, and only after being turned into a shifter they will age normally/faster.

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>>144135456
A few yes, but some more summer-y ones would be nice too!

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Post images of shingekis enjoying the summer!

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>>144135493
>>144135374
Too much speculation, too litle basis.

We know Grisha wanted to enter the walls and he previously cleared the path of titans to do so, which implies preparation.
We know that somehow, Zeke has some sort of personal relationship with him, which implies he knows him on a personal level.
He wasn't too old 20 years ago, maybe 28 at most.
It's too little time to be too much apart in age.

I'll still go with the brothers theory until further information.

>>144135493
It is hinted the Jaegers could be also a royal class.

>>144135908
They being brothers sounds too easy.

>>144135908
That means he would've been 45 when he died? He looks way too fine to be a 45 yo dude.

>>144136264
Not that old, maybe late 30's though at the time of his death.

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>>144135874

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>>144136544
Cute!

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>>144136583

Oh and here I was thinking Armin had died

God this series has no balls

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>>144135646
I'm sure! Summer Shingeki's are cute and relaxed. Light and breezy clothing too.

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>>144136629

The shit has begun. For God's sake. Keep sharing your theories anons please!

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>>144134092
Pic related

>>144134676
ErwLfujos tend to do that to Levi because he's the uke and ukes are always skinny and boney.

>>144136462
>30's though at the time of his death.
No way he was 15 or 20 when he met Keith. He was at least 25. He wasn't a teen at all. And at that age (25) he could have fathered one child, 200, 100 years ago or so. Also, Zeke's titan seems special, maybe MT and Coordinate made their users age faster. Or Zeke just was an adult when he got MT's shifter ability.

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Theory: Grisha was an ODB who tried to impregnate women of a variety of different bloodlines to see the reaction each of them would have with his Jaeger genes.
(Remember, Isayama confirmed in an interview that bloodlines would play an important role.)

One of the first was Kuchel, who at the time was the only living female Ackerman. Once he found her, he begged her to have his child in return for something, money maybe. That's why she was so adamant about having it when Kenny asked her to get an abortion.

Carla was another, since she was from the "slave" bloodline. Grisha loved her for sure, but also was curious about the Jaeger line interacting with the mass genepool in the walls.

Next was Mikasa's mother. Notice how he ran to her first and looked visually upset when he found out she was dead, then immediately focused on Mikasa.
It's possible the baby Mikasa's mother was pregnant with was Grisha's child.

But since the last Asian was dead, all Grisha had left was Mikasa. This is why he was so open to offering her to stay with them. He wanted to keep his eye on her so he could impregnate her as soon as she was ready (or hell, he may have even tried already. Mikasa seems to change he subject whenever Eren brings up Grisha.)

As for the warrior village, I'm willing to bet Eren has a very extended family.

>And Erwin happens to barely live
And here I hoped he died on that page.

>>144137083
>They've both been dead for some time now...
What if Grisha was planning to cure them with titan serum? And that's why he overreacted about checking their vitals? I bet he knew Mamakasa and Dadckerman were special and could react different to the titan serum, which means no titanization and full recovery.

I wish Isayama would come here and lurk everytime he runs out of ideas.

>>144137083
That's horrible. I can see Grisha doing some experiments with Mikasa but it was related to the Ackerpower and brain-erased.
Levi and Eren being brothers? nah. I don't think so. By the way, that thing about Mikasa's mom being pregnant is not canon.

>>144136958
Maybe that anon meant 'died' as in when he became trapped as a mindless titan?

I keep holding on to the theory that while anyone can become a mindless titan, you need be within a certain age range to gain and use the shifting ability properly. But then there's Grisha and Zeke.

>>144137270
>And now Erwin, Manlet and Armin are Zeke's children, and Zeke is Eren's brother. So Eren is Armin, Erwin and Manlet's uncle.
>Thank you 4chan for the feedback! Next chapter is about Princess Ymir!

>>144136958
Let's think he was 28 when he entered the walls, he married Carla in the span of 2 years at most? That makes him 30 something when he had Eren, and died when Eren was 10? That would make him 40.

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>>144137083
Also adding: If the "See You Later" girl is Frieda, it could explain why Eren and her met. There's a chance Grisha tried to "arrange" something with her. But for whatever reason, the pregnancy didn't work out. It would explain her delicate mental state as well as her obsessive relationship with her baby sister.

And also, it could explain the true nature of their fight quite a bit.

>>144137083
how exactly would Mikasa be an Ackerman ?

>>144137430
Not Mikasa, the baby Mikasa's mother was carrying which was why she was being visited by the doctor, according to the side story.

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>>144136629

I think Zeke is Eren's uncle

>>144137380
Keith said he met Grisha 20 years ago. Grisha and Carla met then too. Eren is 15. That would mean Grisha and Carla had Eren 5 years after meeting each other.

>>144137491
That's not canon.

>>144137396
>her obsessive relationship with her baby sister
She knew she had a sister so she went and meet her, but for her protection she erased her memories.
It wasn't obsesive, she got mad when Historia said she wanted to reach out of the fence, that triggered the FK memories of "you can never go outside the walls" and upset her quite a bit.

>>144137377
Who's on the next cover? When is Hitch coming back so JH can become canon?

>>144137491
That was in Mikasa's head.

>>144137396
I bet Grisha actually met Frieda while looking for the Reiss family. He was fine with them for the moment, because there weren't any potential risks. But when the wall was attacked, he realised they did nothing. Even being in Sina, Frieda's titan would have reach Wall Maria at least to try to seal the wall. When Grisha found them, he realised they were performing a ritual to erase people's memory. And I bet again, that happened in shifter's village too, and that's the reason he left or was exiled, while Zeke stayed against his ow brother. Grisha stole the coordinate, as it was the original plan from the shiftervillages bosses. And he got mad about doing it, but to keep faithfull to himself, he decided to pass the power to Eren. Hint: Grisha might able to fight against the will but is not inmune to it. Eren is different from being a mix.

>>144137664
>That would mean Grisha and Carla had Eren 5 years after meeting each other.
Which could be possible, the disease, the cure, the courtship etc, those things take time.

>>144137491
Wasn't the Mikasa side-story all in her head?
Also, as far as I'm aware only Annie's portion is canon, not including the kitchen.

>>144129146
>Armin makes people stupid so he can appear smart by comparison. It's bad writing
Fucking this. If he lives while Bert and Erwin dies I'll be pissed. We can expect more bad character writing and childhood flashbacks.

>>144137888
Are the showers canon?

>>144137973
I should think so. Hygiene is important.

>>144138006
So they have running water?

>>144138056
Could easily be a gravity shower.
We know that they have pumps in their houses

>>144137825
I don't think the FK "will" is a will that can be surpassed, it's just the memories of past coordinates.
If you where a Reiss and inherited it, you would know why the FK did what it did and why it's important to do so. You would understand the reasons behind such acts and go with them, not because "it" controls you, but because you understand the truth of the world and see the benefits of keeping it.

The question is, why is there the necessity of that world? Why nobody can leave the walls? Why is everyone inside a sinner?

So if Grisha is originally from warrior town why, then, did he tell Eren to take revenge on them?

>>144137825
Here's a dark thought: Grisha did love Carla, but he also needed her for her blood to make a hybrid baby. A mix of someone from within the walls and one from beyond, bonus if Grisha's bloodline is significant. If he always intended for Eren to get the coordinate, that would be messed up.

That time Grisha cured a whole town of a strange illness, could it be possible that he injected them with titan serum and that explains why MT is capable of creating titans out of nowhere?

>>144138266
I prefer this over actual mind control, which is a cheap plot device. The fact that they agreed to not change anything is way more interesting. Wonder what will happen if/when Eren gets those memories.

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>>144138366
>bonus if Grisha's bloodline is significant
I think it is. It was sort of hinted here.

>If he always intended for Eren to get the coordinate, that would be messed up.
I think that's the case.

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>>144137726
BR.

>>144138281
Maybe he could never find it in his heart to forgive his brother Zeke for being indirectly responsible for Carla's death.

I don't know, maybe he defected from the village or was exiled so he's against them. Probably didn't agree with their beliefs.

>>144138544
Poor Keith. I hope Hange still has feelings for him.

>>144138281
He only said "take revenge for your mother" didn't specify if it was against the titans, against the walled world or the shifters.

>>144138737
I have this theory that he may have been kicked out for being a "deviant" as in he didn't agree with the ideals. So he was left to his own fate in the outside world where he fought his way towards the walled society. I think the same thing could have happened to Ymir.

I think Grisha is the bad one. He could have a soft side (his love for Carla and Eren) but his intentions were not good.

>>144138817
If Zeke and Grisha are brothers, that means they had a father who was "compassionate" to the walled people, maybe he wanted to check for himself and found they were not as "evil" as shifters think.
Which would also explain the "brainwashing" part of Zeke speech to Eren, only it wasn't brainwashing per se, but his favorable views of the walled people.

>>144138934
Of course, killing thousands of innocent without explaining is being good, while living with the humans and trying to help them is just being shitty. Not even trying to pretend Grisha was a saint, but come on!

>>144128185

Actually what we should be thinking is what death would produce the best result for the story.

If Armin dies Eren could snap and join BRA when he finally learns that humanity where the bad guys all along but on the other hand without Erwin there is no plan after the basement.

I don't think Erwin is cut to be the final boss.

>>144139048
Both of them are the same. Grisha killed the Reiss children without mercy. I don't know if Zeke is his son or his brother but they are not quite different.

>>144139048
Think about it this way, maybe the existence of those humans is evil in itself, they individually are innocent, but as "humans behind the walls" they are some sort of evil into the world.
Then, helping them is evil, while killing them is a righteous action. This is the way shifters think, the question is why.

>>144138999
If that's what he really meant by brainwashing, then this is more understandable. But Zeke said he was also brainwashed by Grisha, which is what confuses me. He made it sound like he understood Eren because they've gone through the same thing. I think. So he's trying to prevent Eren from following the same fate, whatever that is?

Still up for those who haven't voted

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>>144139325
This is where the father theory kicks in, if Grisha was the compassionate father, that would explain why Zeke feels "brainwashed" by Grisha as he too somehow feel some sort of compassion of their ignorance of the lost history of the world.

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>>144135551
Very soon.

>>144137083
Jesus, I thought that was some shitty fancomic. Early SnK is really something else.

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>>144136662
Does this count?

>>144139559
I wouldn't want it any other way. I remember laughing almost hysterically during the first chapters. The backgrounds, the proportions, those horses, it was hilarious.

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>>144135874
Beach episode never.

Why dont they just split the serum?

>>144139472
That would be an interesting twist. I've seen someone suggest Zeke is a 'failed' coordinate or experiment. Now Grisha's other son has the real thing. I want to believe he had good intentions for Eren and humanity, but seeing Keith's perspective in 71 makes me uncertain.

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Will Reiner ever be granted peace?

>>144140516
Saved

>>144140176
It was really hard reading through the manga the first time.

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>>144140122
Of course!
Very comfortable! Do you have some fashionable Hitch?

>>144139400
>for those who haven't voted
>implying I haven't voted 15 times already
IPs reset as often as I go to the bathroom.

>>144130084
The Wall people is literally BRA for a long time and they still are muh character with more spotlight.

>>144132414
>implying
They're on full force on twitter.

>>144132971
50/50

>>144135034
That's literally Levi.

>>144132971
We had some funny immortal nerve shit and Ayy Lmao's appearing from the AT.

That and some fuckboi being roasted so hard that his brains should have been fried already still living.
Same goes for a commander getting shot in the stomach by a bullet the size of a cannonball, falling in the middle of a battlefield and a nameless soldier miraculously find him and bring him to fried brains, all the while not dying from blood loss and organ failure and all that shit.

I mean I'd be surprised if this manga manages to surprise me anymore.

>>144139048
BRA only caused 1/3 of the deaths, though. The rest was spurged by the wall people themselves to be eaten.

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So what are the chances that Maria, Rose, and Sina were the first kings kids.

Also, if Fritz was a false king, and the true king was Rod. That means that he was related to FK.
Could that explain some similiarties between himself and the Wall Titan?
It's a bit of a stretch, but does anyone else think it might be a thing?

>>144143478
There's a shitload of Reiss through more than 100km.

>>144143478
I think Maria was the daughter of the FK and she was a queen herself. Then there was Ros who was a daughter of Maria, and The Sina. All three of them carried the coordinate at some point.

>>144143478
>Could that explain some similiarties between himself and the Wall Titan?
I'm not sure the wall titans have anything significant to do with the First King aside from being used as concrete for 3 walls.

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>>144141253
This one maybe?

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>>144135874
Petra deserved life.

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>>144143662
Come again?

>>144143664
Aside from the Reiss members found here http://attackontitan.wikia.com/wiki/Reiss_family
Do we know anyone that was the direct family of FK?

>>144143803
I may be wrong, but when Annie tried to escape and destroyed the face of the wall, she was inside Sina? That would put them at what would presumably be ground zero of the walls creation if we assume the hardening that created the walls moved outwards from the centre. If we assume that, it would stand to reason that FK was in Sina, so it could possibly be him.
Though I grant you this, FK was presented as looking more like a tall version of DT than the CT seen in the picture above.

>>144143815
Got to love a cute summer dress!

>>144143875
She certainly did, Anon.

Could Bert be related to the Wall Titans? Him being the only active colossal strikes me as kinda odd, although Rod wanted to turn Hisu into a CT as well.

>>144144047
It looks like the CT serums are rare and used for special occasions. The FK probably used a different method to turn the wall titans into CTs.

>>144144047
He said "A titan most suited for battle", I think that the colosal Rod turned into was a malfuction of the way he took the serum.

>>144144018
That titan looks like it has fangs doesn't it. Wouldn't surprise me if it has elf ears toom

>>144144047
Not related as in blood related but certainly the same kind of serum was used.

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>>144144047
If I recall correctly, Rod wanted Hissy to have a form that was well suited for combat. That doesn't strike me as the CT, given that her transformation ritual would have destroyed the cavern with him inside. I personally think the malformation of his Titan was due to the misadministration of the serum. I don't think ingesting the serum, while in human form, has the same results as ingesting Titan Spinal Fluid whilst in Titan form. Purely speculatory of course.

>>144144186
That may well tie in to the theory of Ymir being Titan royalty. But as far as I'm aware, Titans are mostly unlike humans when it comes to genetic traits except for the Jaegers that all have pointy ears and Zeke who (presumably being older than Grisha) has a Titan with body hair all over whereas Grishas Titan only has some hair on the chest and a beard.

>>144144018
By the way this is something that I noticed only now but is that a crowd of people standing before that titan? Could it be possible that he's brainwashing them? Could they be the wall titans?

>>144143478
>Maria, Rose, and Sina were the first kings kids.
Who knows.

>he was related to FK. Could that explain some similiarties between himself and the Wall Titan?
No similarities, the coordinate rounded up some CTs and ordered to harden, probably humanity was made to forget because they were witness to that.

>>144144185
>the colosal Rod turned into was a malfuction of the way he took the serum
That's what Kenny said, yes. Either that or being old affects the result too.

>>144144018
>FK was presented as looking more like a tall version of DT than the CT seen in the picture above.
That's not really what I was talking about.
I meant that it literally doesn't matter who turned into a CT to form the walls.
Assuming he "made" CT's to form the walls with, he could have easily selected a pair of random peasants to do the job for him.

>>144144350
I said this once before and got shouted down, but that's what I believe is happening.

>>144144371
Well that's mostly assumption.
But I can't fault you for that.

>>144144438
I see, my bad. But you bring up a good point.
I had overlooked the possibility that normal people could have been used.

>>144144520
>before and got shouted down
Why? That's what's happening, he is modifying their memories there with its cry.

>>144144645
Beats me, Anon. But these things happen.
But if you could fill me in, I would appreciate some help with something if you have an answer. Is there a reason that the Ackerman clan was unaffected by the FK and his abilities? I'm afraid I may have missed something.

>>144144018
Like a never ending line of CTs. The walls are made of CT.

>>144144779
Nothing clear, all speculah.
The Ackermans and Orientals were unnaffected by the FK cry, it's assumed that other clans or minority races that are not part of the majority are not affected by it as well.

If we want to speculate, probably most nobles of Wall Sina are part of these clans as they are the ruling class and, when they were asked by the SL, most administrative workers were not worried about the coup because "they will forget about it soon, and everything would get back to normal"

Probably the Ackermans, with their superior strength and Orientals, with some other thing, where shunned by this ruling class or deemed too dangerous or maybe they started to disagree with the state of things.

>>144144047
CT is only a class.

>>144145197
Jeez this is all so frustrating. I hope we get answers from the basement, or at least upon the return to the inner walls.
Just a few things we can look forward to include:
The mystery surrounding the weight of titans.
Possibly some information regarding the Ackerman bloodline.
Possibly some information regarding the headaches.
The contents of the letter from Ymir.
Information regarding the village.

>>144145484
>The mystery surrounding the weight of titans.
The titans body is made with a special flesh apparently, no normal knife can cut it, only military cutter blades or other knifes made with the bamboo iron.

I have a theory, as bamboo iron only grows in a secluded place and, even when it's made of iron it's also a plant, maybe the titans function the same way making the titans/plant/fungus theory a thing.
This was mentioned in the Before The Fall series, it's interesting, but I don't know about how much of it is canon.

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>>144145805
The one thing about their weight that bothers me, is this.
Hanji mentioned that when she kicked the head of a Titan, it weighed next to nothing. Demonstrated by how far it flew when she kicked it.
Yet when a Titan falls over, even a small one, the weight of it causes considerable damage. Plus, if they aren't supposed to weigh very much, when Reiner threw the Titans, they should have acted strangely because of air resistance acting on a light object. At this point, I fear that Isayama has forgotten about that particular plot point.
And I haven't read Before the Fall. Would you recommend it?

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>>144132009
Oh actually I have this old new year's thing too.

>>144145969
Maybe when they are alive they weight more but when they are dissolving their weight quickly evaporates? She kicked a detached head or something if I recall correctly, and a detached arm too. Nothing alive.

Before the fall has like less than 20 chapters and there hasn't been an update since forever, it's not very cliffhangery doesn't explain much but it's a good read.

Erwin is regain consciousness just long enough to tell them to give the serum to Armin, and after playing out the scene for a chapter they'll do it. Armin has always been meant to be Erwin's successor anyway.

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>>144146421
I'd be willing to put money on this happening.

>>144146345
It was a decapitated head, yes. And yes, the arm was also severed.
Perhaps the weight quickly vanishes. Once again, we've been frustratingly left in the dark.
I may look into Before the Fall then, out of curiosity.

>>144146421
Hanji was always meant to be the successor in continuity. I feel as though it would be a cheap play to have Armin take his place. Hanji has years of experience, a proven record of prevailing against the odds, strong leadership skills and a demonstrable ability to make the tough calls. She has also, quite probably, attained veteran status and is thus more likely to be taken seriously by those still inside the walls should she return alive.
Armin has been in service less than a year and his so called successes, as I've argued all along, have mostly been based on assumption and gambles that are the product of poor writing.
That being said, I think that what you're saying is what will happen, but I hope it doesn't.

>>144128553
inb4 in Erwin's last bit of willpower, he tells Levi to inject the serum into Armin.

>>144146421
>Armin has always been meant to be Erwin's successor anyway.
Hanji is Erwin's successor, not some badly written Captain Obvious because Isayama needed to give Armin a pity skill to justify his nonsensical presence.

>>144146657
>Perhaps the weight quickly vanishes.
But wasn't their feather weight the reason why they managed to move way faster than they should?

>>144147139
I'm sorry, I don't remember any mention of that. Although, that would make some sense.

So for successors -
Scouting Legion - Hanji [/spoiler]then Armin after her?[/spoiler]
Military Police - Jean? I always thought Marlo would but then didn't end well.
Garrison - Rico? Idk

>>144147208
Well I fucked up that spoiler tag.

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>>144135908
Young Grisha a cute.

>>144146421
Hange is first but Armin also plays a big role in the SL. Hange will relay in him somehow.

>>144147185
Well I remember it being explained somewhere.
Could have been some anime only scene though.
It's been years so my memory is quite hazy.

>>144146421
First part, I agree. Because is fucking obvious. But Hange is Erwin's successor not Armin, and that's was kinda proved because Hange is the fucking new Commander, and Armin lacks leader skills. And not, EMJSC doing what he tells doesn't qualify him as good leader.

Dog is the most effective titan

>>144147413
He fucking is.
And it might not even be a shifter.

>>144147208
That's how it will end. Jean and Hitch in the MP. Hange, Armin, Mikasa and Connie on the SL. Eren will go with Zeke or die?

>>144147436
>has a chill conversation with Zeke, even calling him "chief"
>not a shifter

>>144147400
MEJSC trust him and that's why they do what he says. Erwin entrusted him a group of veterans and he did well. He still can learn.

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>>144147208
>Scouting Legion - Hanji
Yep. Then afterwards, I imagine it would go to Jean. I think he's being groomed for command.
>Military Police - Jean? I always thought Marlo would but then didn't end well.
I think that would go to Nile. But only because he's the first senior MP that pops into my mind.
>Garrison - Rico? Idk
I would like to say Rico, personal bias and what not, but I think that decision would be made by Pixis. Rico and Kitz are the only veteran Squad Leaders that survived Trost that are from the 1st Division Elite Force. So I imagine it would be a toss up between the two of them. And Pixis doesn't seem to like Kitz very much, for what it's worth. But even if Kitz or Rico were chosen, that would only see them being put in command of the Southern Garrison.

>>144147389
I'm doing a re-read at the minute, if it pops up I'll be sure to take a note of it.
I'll be re-watching the anime soon too, so the same applies.

>>144147413
Is there a chart for this sort of thing?
CT - Two Breaches.
AT - One Breach.
FT - One failed capture, One failed escape.
MT - One failed attack.
DT - TBD.
QT - Saved Zeke, Saved Reiner, Successfully escaped.
etc

NotJean will help Levi defeat Eren and Mikasa.

>>144147208
>So for successors -
I will bully Isayama the rest of his life if takes this route. Is seriously retarded.
Hanji is the new Commander. And SL is never going to be the same after this fight. So, if they lose, well, obvious, SL will be axed. But if they win, SL would focus on actually being a scouting legion. No need for crazy Gesumin Commander. He would be a good Squad leader and tactician.
The Military Police already have Zackly and Nile. And remember, the power and the quantity of members was due Reiss shitty administration. In case humanity they win, MP would probably be completely remodeled. No more top 10 to protect royalty, no more secret squads. So, probably Zacklay, Rico would take the lead of smaller MP while is fused with Garrison.
I can't even imagine any of EMASJC being as a leader without feeling is fucking forced.

>>144147208
>[/spoiler]
>idk
Into the trash.

>>144147716
I know anon, or maybe I'll just go to bed.

Grisha a shit. I'd rather hang out with Zeke any day.

>>144147738
How Shingekos would react if they fail at spoilering?

>>144147551
Isn't Nile already the commander of the MP?

>>144146657
I get that people say Armin will be like Erwin one day, but Hange gets overlooked. Armin has potential but it's not like he'll be leading as commander any time soon. He's not Erwin's successor, Hange is.

There will be like what, less than 10 soldiers in the SL after this? There may not even be an SL to lead regardless.

>>144147824
Sudoku

>>144147657
After this chapter it is hinted that Jean doesn't belong to the SL as much as he wants, he is too emotional. I think he will be fine in the MP.

>>144147788
>Hanging with uncle Zeke Bad Touch Yeager and his pure edge.
I would prefer Grisha, at least he knows how to get laid.

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>>144147788
I wouldn't mind hanging out on Zeke all day if you get what i'm saying.

>>144147880
If recapture of wall maria is succesful I guarantee many will join the SL.

>>144147886
Yes, I think the same. Only crazy people would feel fine being in the actual SL. So people like Erwin, Manlet and Hanji. But the SL with its original intents, I can see people like Jean or Connie joining alongside Eren and Armin, because it means adventures.

>>144147828
I just checked, and you're right! I don't know how that one slipped past me. Well remembered, Anon. Then I can honestly say I don't know who I would choose as his successor.

>>144147880
Agreed on all points except the last.
Originally, I thought the Scouts were doomed to be disbanded. But following what is, ultimately, a victory at Shiganshina, I can see more recruits joining. Especially now with the proven effectiveness of the Thunder Spears and the potential of another friendly shifter.

>>144147880
I can't see Armin'as a potential leader. He lacks attitude and charm. Not even trying to be derogatory. Eren has more potential to become like Erwin than Armin. That's why I say he would be suited to be a squad leader, with a small group who would follow and understand him.

>>144147824
>Bert
Replies to everyone how sorry he is. Unironically stutters.
>Jean
Keeps refreshing the page until he can delete the post.
>Eren
Angrily replies to his own post in all caps swearing it was Hiro's fault.
>Connie
>ohfuckingwell.jpg
>Reiner
Pretends it was someone else and replies to his own post making fun of himself.
>manlet
Closes the tab.

>>144128185
Imagine if she attacked the serum.

>>144148116
Eren has never show signs of leadership and he is fine following orders. On the other hand, Armin could start as a squad leader until he obtained experience but of course Hange will be the commander and I don't think she will die.

>>144147946
>>144148104
I'm 50/50 on how their return will be met. They may technically win by reclaiming territory, but they went out with over 100 soldiers and came back with so few that others may respond negatively to it. Hard to say. I've been imagining for a while that the citizens would cheer because Wall Maria is reclaimed, while the remaining soldiers look depressed as hell as everyone else celebrates.

>>144148116
I get you, I don't see Armin as commander material either. For sure squad leader. Eren doesn't strike me as being capable as a commander either though....but they are similar, I'll give you that.

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>>144148294
Imagine if she GOT the serum.

>>144147995
That's why Isayama killed Marlo. He is planning Jean to take his dream of fix the corruption in the MP. Pretty obvious.

>>144148369
Eren and Erwin share the appeal. They generate certain impulse in people, so soldiers and friends end "following" them. That appeal is something I can't see in Armin no matter how much he matures. Well, Isayama can make it happen.

>>144148195
Cute as fuck.

>>144148371
>I'm 50/50 on how their return will be met.
I think the scenario you set up would be quite perfect.
Personally, I would like to see Historia, now the Queen, give a speech of some description. Honouring the dead, showing remorse that she couldn't fight alongside her friends, encouraging more people to enlist and fight the Titans etc.

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>>144148104
You had me second guessing myself there!

>>144148116
That is a more fitting role for him honestly. But I don't see Eren as a commander either, although that depends on how he matures of course.

>>144134059
For MUH ERWIN. I really believed Levi was alright with saving whoever he found alive until his faggot ass hesitated to give the serum this chapter when Erwin wasn't even a fucking option.

>>144147788
This only works if you're Eren, or he won't give a fuck about you.

>>144148195
Kek. You nailed it.

>>144134560
People don't age when they're stuck in mindless titan forms. That could have happened to Grisha for some years and made him seem younger.

>>144148195
Do YAH, Sasha, Erwin and whos.

>>144148515
People follow Eren because he is humanity's hope and the first shifter they have known. I don't know if "follow" is the right word, he causes an impression for his determination. He resembles Erwin a bit yeah, but only in that aspect.
Armin could learn and considering he motivated Eren, he will make a great work as a squad leader. Hange and Armin get along well and can work perfect together.

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>>144148486
Wonder how Jean will react now that another of his mauveshirt friends are dead. I actually can see him switching to the MP in the future.

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>>144148556
Your memory served you well! But I'm away for now! Enjoy the rest of your night.

>>144148655
>grills
>posting on 4chin

>>144148642
This. Grisha could've had Zeke, turned into a wandering mindless titan like Ymir for years and then got lucky and managed to eat some random shifter to turn human again. He knew he couldn't return to titan town because they were probably the ones who made him mindless to begin with, so he went to the walls and started a new life.

>>144148766
He will, I said that long time ago. Marlo and Jean weren't close friends but I suppose he will feel responsible for his death in some way. He can't manage pressure, he will also feel guilty for Armin next chapter.

>>144148569
That was kind of forced, all this Muh Erwin. He told him to take his dreams and go to hell and that's why I don't understand why he hesitated (before Erwin arrives) when Eren asked him to save Armin.

>>144148195
>Annie
Ctrl+s

>>144148852
I know right? shifty eyes

>>144148921
I really don't think so, if they are father and son I'm more inclined to believe he had him at a young age than he was mindless just before entering the walls.
There was planning in his appearance by wall Maria, also, he controls quite well his titan, he was a trained shifter.
And there's his relationship with Zeke, the way he talks about him shows he knew him at least till his early teens as he feels betrayed by Grisha, typical teenager reaction when someone doesn't do what you want.

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>>144149682
I miss Kenny. I wish he lived and joined the SL. Kenny vs Zeke would've been epic and I bet he would've just fucking shot Reiner as soon as he emerged from the wall.

>>144149923
>teenager reaction when someone doesn't do what you want.
>Traumatize kid
>Abandon kid
>Have another kid
>spoiled ragetard
>Treats him better
Eeeeh, I don't know. Zeke still wants to tender Eren though.

>>144149931
>No dirty jokes about MT
>No gay jokes about Manlet husbandonfagging Erwin
>No niggah jokes about Armin
Kenny would have been to perfect for this arc.

>>144149213
Did you see how he looked before saying it and how happily Erwin reacted? He told him to do it because that was what Erwin needed to hear. He knew he had to go oin the suicide mission and was drowning in guilt but he needed help to fully let go of the basement. Levi didn't kill MT because he wanted to save Erwin and before they even left for Shiganshina he told Erwin to stay behind.

Looking back on Levi's dialogue in past arcs he was always an Erwinfag.

>>144149931
>tfw Kenny wouldn't have listened to Jean and killed Reiner on the spot
What a shame.

>>144150561
>No Kenny to tell Eren to fuck off when he tries to revive cocostu.

Kenny is now the Ackerman on the main trio.
Better or no?

>>144150805
Depends, is he obsessed with Eren?

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I'm thinking on commisioning an certain artist the next time he does a livestream and an up for ideas.

C-CHECK EM

>>144150889
Just the usual Kenny.

>>144151280
Which artist and what kind of commission?

>>144151379
Lewd?
http://tenkaboutthebutts.tumblr.com/tagged/commission%20art

>>144151375
Okay, then yes.

>>144151299
Nice one Bert

>>144151462
Faces look meh but I dig the lewd parts. Which shingekis? Pls be BRZ

>>144150283
You are right. Talking serious, he is the closest thing Levi has as a friend.

>>144151553
BRZ is best, but he charges extra for more characters. If you know one better say it, though. I still like the dude's expresions.

>>144151680
Ask for Ymir dicking Historia with her massive futa cock.

>>144128185
You're a fucking idiot, just like the characters in this manga. They're not going to save Erwin or Armin, the whole point of this little debacle is showing how shitty humanity is and always turning on itself and fighting at the first opportunity. Once again, they've completely fucked up TWO whole chances at success, just like they do every single chapter. Fuck this manga.

>>144151680
Ask for Bert sucking 13 dicks, to top the current record of 12.

>>144152528
I though Drawgrill was up for making this, no?

>>144152616
I was? I mean I am but no one really requested it yet.

>>144152961
Are you the one who requested BRZ? I might do ot for u.

>>144153108
You shouldn't pay for what I want anon, you should ask him for what you want. Plus I might draw it myself someday, nips didn't catch on it.

Are there any translations yet?

>>144148486
Jean joined the SL to protect his friends. There's no way he's gonna leave. He may be too kind hearted but his kindness and normality are necessary on a legion suicidalsfags.

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>>144153606

>>144153519
>Jean joined the SL to protect his friends
Incorrect. He joined the SL because he started to value the meaning of sacrifice and responsability. Marco's death helped him to realize that he needs to contribute to humanity and also he didn't want those charred bones be disappointed on him, he was being so selfish.

>>144135034
It's not his fault that Eren is cuter than BRA

>>144137270
He would cry over how much everyone hates his coconut head Gary Stu and add another bullies flashback.

>>144154628
>WILL ARMIN CRY BY THE BULLIES?
>Find out next, on Shingeki no Ocean

>>144154011
>Incorrect
Incorrect

>Erwin, Armin, and Bert somehow all make it out of the next chapter alive.

>>144154806
>All that effort to save Reiner.
Yeah, Reiner will start whinning and Zeke will go back.

>>144135374
No, we didn't know her name her name till we were in the start of the Clash of the Titans arc. The name was mentioned before that but we didn't know who it belonged to.
And what do you mean by fake name? She was listed as Freckles in the credits and the other characters knew her name well before it was revealed to us. Isayama just never had them say it because he didn't want it revealed too soon.

Well, besides you using no name drops as a reason for her not being a favorite. I figured it was rather obvious why Isayama never has anyone say her name before the Ilse's Notebook reveal.

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How does one kill the Reiner?

>>144154916
Zeke will just get annoyed and feed him to some other warrior.

>>144155073
You can't but it doesn't matter since the Armored Jobber is harmless

>>144155073
Reiner is unkillable. He cannot die until he gives Historia an heir (and marries her).

>>144154995
This is so much bullshit from Isayama. Less than 30 recruits joined the SC for at least a month already yet no one noticed her name? Erwin can find out about the real royal family and their secret chapels but a "Ymir" remains undetected right under their noses?

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>Mikasa betrays Eren and saves Erwin
>Eren tries to take the serum anyway
>is restrained or something
>has time to think about Monkey Titan saying that he needed to save him
>decides to get answers
>no idea where to go to the shifter village though
>needs help

>Annie rescue arc

>Reiner died guys, theres no way he survived
>Reiner survives

>Armin died guys, theres no way he survived
>Armin survives
Why is /snk/ so bad at predicting Isayama's writing?