Was it a useless transformation? Did it look like shit or

It made Goku far stronger, of course it wasn't useless.

>>144106301
it made goku a hell of a lot stronger, but it was very power consuming

>>144106301
looks hot

>Super Saiyan Blue 3 never

>>144106301
It was underpowered compared to Mystic Gohan and Kid Buu, but it was still a power up.

>>144106301
Don't care what faggots think, SSJ3 was my fav.
and Cell is my fav villain.

>>144106301
it was, and still is the best looking power up of them all. Was a bit shit tho

>>144106603
rerarded gohanfag

to answer OP, no it wasn't

actually, now that goku has perfect ki control, using ss3 is easy now, so he could use that instead of blue to handle a higher tier jobber fodder villian and also to train other people(like gohan)

>>144106301
This is my favorite transformation, actually. Sad that it essentially was replaced by a recolor.

SSJ1 - Kills Freeza dead
SSJ2 - Kills Cell dead.
SSJ3 - Goku runs away. Gotenks is an idiot and SSJ3 was wasted on him. Surpassed by Mystic in the SAME ARC. Buu killed by non-SSJ3 form. SSJ3 then fails AGAIN when Goku uses it against Beerus.

The first time SSJ3 won ANYTHING was when Goku used it to smack Mirai Trunks' shit.

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>>144106683
Perfect taste

Why did his eyebrows go away?

>>144106850
his mane pulled the hair from everywere else on his body to get big

>>144106850
He...needed more hair? I don't know, I think Toriyama said it was to make it look more 'brutish', ferocious or even feral. Make sense if you think about it: that long-ass hair and neanderthal brow make him look positively barbaric.

All he need is a loincloth and some power metal blasting in the background.

>>144106301

no one has accomplished anything in the ssj3 form, or if they did their accomplishments were made moot like right after

>>144106911
>ssj3 goku impedes fat buu and kid buu from destroying all the z fighters/bliwing up supreme kai planet ti ensure his defeat

yep

top 3 useless power

>>144106683
Perfect answer

Plus SSJ3 had top tier music

>>144106996
the nips always did electronic steampunk shit so well

It was a powerup, but it was hardly a convenient one as it meant a massive drain.

>>144106762
>rerarded gohanfag
>rerarded
Ultimate Gohan is the strongest unfused character before Super, deal with it.

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>>144106301
It want unless because Goku still used it against Kid Buu. And it looked great, I never understood the hate for SS3.

>>144107920
>ultimate
>xenoshitter

conversation is over

Mysitc Gohan >>>>>>>>>> SSJ3 Goku

SSJ3 is garbage

>>144106301
god damn, come up with your own opinion.

you massive faggot.

>SSJ1
Makes Goku stronger than Freeza in his final form, to the point where he gets bored and wants to stop fighting.
>SSJ2
Makes Gohan stronger than Cell in his final form, to the point where he's just toying with him until the part where Cell tries to ragequit the planet.
>SSJ3
Lets Goku buy a little time and slow down Buu's least powerful form.

SSJ3 wasn't useless, but it also wasn't conspicuously overpowered at the point when it's introduced (because lolfusionarc).

People still argue if Mystic Gohan is more powerful than SS3? Gohan was beating the shit out of Super Buu and could take out Unfused Buu while Goku was at least on par with Fat Buu and Kid Buu

>It took you years to realize that the point of the Buu arc was to say that power ups and transformations don't always win the batle, because it was ultimately team work that defeated Buu.

>>144108028
Goku said he could've taken fat Buu, so technically all transformations did the "stronger than the baddie" thing

>>144108197
ssj3 goku could of beaten buu in any form, he kept holding back until it was too late though

he wanted gotenks or gohan to learn how to protect earth but they both jobbed(and hard)

>>144108197

And it was great fun.

Now we're back to retarded ass power ups and Goku winning everything.

DBZ was good until Gohan jobs to Buu.

>>144108745
that's the moment it became great

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>>144106301
Best saiyajin form in my opinion but useless since he didn't achieve anything with it.
Still badass

I liked SSJ3 the most.

I liked how goku had to put in a lot of work and had to face significant downsides, only to push a little bit further. It was realistic.

>>144107920
>>144107993
>Mystic Gohan
So powerful he jobbed like a bitch to Buu.

>>144106301
>Was it a useless transformation?
Yes.
>Did it look like shit or not?
It was alright.

>>144110656
Yes and Goku was pissing his pants at the thought of fighting a weaker version of that Buu.

>>144108745
It was fine until Kaioshin appeared.

>>144108420
I don't know where you've read that but you're wrong. Goku states he could've defeated fat buu if he was serious, he never says anything about being able to defeat his other versions.

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>>144108420
Everytime. Until you people finally get it.

>>144106762
I thought Goku only has perfect ki control while in SSGSS mode.

>>144112057
That's correct. The anon you replied to is just retarded.

>>144108197
Only because everyone insisted on being retarded.
>Goku: I won't finish Buu because I want Gotenks to do it!

>Gotenks: whoops screwed around too long lol out of time

>Gohan: Sure, I guess I could let the kids have a crack at Buu first.

>Goku: Great, now that everyone's been revived we can have Gotenks or Gohan defeat Buu!
>Vegeta: Nah. Hey Kakarot, remember that shitty technique that takes a billion years to charge up and never works except in movies?

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>>144108197
I thought the point of the Buu Arc was to show how our protagonists are selfish battle-hungry warriors that really don't care about other's safety and tend to get cocky and just enjoy their battles. Goku or Vegeta could have just roll over Babidi and his goons just like Trunks did in his future.

>>144112057
no, his training with whis is to percect ki control, being able to use ssb is just an outcome of finally learning how to

>>144112134

kill yourself

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>>144112543
to be fair, supreme kai mind fucked them into thinking they even needed to find buu's egg in the first place, otherwise they probably would have eliminated them right away

>>144106301
Love how it looks, too bad it was very underused. Was nice to see it again in Super, maybe they'll show more of it.

>>144106548
Soon™

>>144106603
NIn term of ki output Goku SSJ3 would surpass both mystic gohan and kid buu, it's just that he couldn't maintain the form for very long

>>144106301
Turned him into a jobbing fuck

SAIYAN TRANSFORMATION RANKINGS

>FUCK YES TIER
SSJ2 (GOHAN)
KAIOKEN
GIANT MONKIES

>GOOD SHIT TIER
SSJ (GOKU, TRUNKS)
SSJ3
SSJ4
LSSJ (BROLY)

>OKAY TIER
SSJ
SSB
SSG

>WHATEVER TIER
SSJ2

>>144112635
it's their fault for allowing buu to be revived because they wanted to fight him.

it's supreme kai's fault for giving babidi half the energy he needed, telling the saiyans when he should've known better, not knowing better or anything about the saiyans because he never paid attention to them, and for not just blowing the entire fucking ship up along with babidi when they first had the chance.

Future Trunks got shit done because he didn't fuck around. Supreme Kai may or may not have been a retard in the future, but regardless, they ended it fighting outside the ship with trunks crushing them.

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>>144117724
>SSJ2 that low

Fuck you and your shit taste. It's more efficient that SSJ3 without fucking your stamina up.

I think SSJ3 looks cool, but was it ever explained?

SSJ = legendary power that one in X saiyans achieve
SSJ Stage 2 = Gain power but lose speed
SSJ Stage 3 (perfect SSJ/ SSJ2) = Master the power of SSJ and keep the slim shape for best balance of power and speed.
SSJ3 = ????? He loses eyebrows????

>>144106301
SSJ3 was a shit ass-pull transformation and shouldn't have existed. HOWEVER, the design is pretty cool but it would have been better if a completely new character had that design as opposed to Goku getting it.

>>144118429
It's not anymore asspull that any other transformation. At least it was right after a 7 year training time skip.

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SSJ2 is best form

>>144117724
SSJ2 was hype when gohan did it, then it just sort of became a whatever thing that people just do.

>>144118367
SSJ - x50 base strength.
SSJ Grades 2, 3 - increases strength, somewhere between x1.1 and x1.9 SSJ, at the cost of speed.
SSJ2 - x2 SSJ, or x100 base strength, described as good as it gets.
SSJ3 - x8 SSJ, or x400 base strength. Ever overclocked your computer? Short lived strength at the cost of stamina and strain.

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>>144118586

>>144106301
will goku and vegeta fuse to do super saiyan god 3 kaioken x 20?

>>144118947
why would he use that thing when they're sparring? It's either going to do fucking nothing (the usual) or cut his fucking head in half

>>144118974
if gogeta uses kaioken will vegeta remember how to do it when they defuse?

>>144106683
Mah nigga. I've stood by this for so long.

>>144106301

This is my favorite transformation, at least it changes his looks bit more but what I mostly like about it is that it's just too extreme to keep up for long and that it needs intense training to use it properly even for a short time, makes it feel less like another cheap OP power up.
I always hated the fuck out of GT because kid goku could barely do his usual techniques he could do as an adult but SSJ3 was no problem.

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Where my Future Gohan bros at?

>>144119138
getting excited for xenoverse 2

>>144119138
all i can pray for is that trunks reignites gohans desire to train again (even more than the fucking frieza saga cause apparently him getting his ass beat for two whole episodes wasnt enough)

>>144119138
Sunday begins the day we make Gohan great again.

>>144118052
it only ended that fast because future trunks already known that bibidi was coming before returning to the future, otherwise he would of been tricked by the kai too

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>>144106301
SS3 is useless. What did it accomplish?

It failed against Fat Buu, Kid Buu, and Beerus. It was never used to beat anyone.

The drawback of this form makes it unusable:

- The power drop is so extreme that you still lose ki even while powering up

- If a fused SS3: cuts your fusion time by more than half

I think it's main purpose was to show that a new transformation would not be enough to defeat Buu (like it was for Freeza and Cell).

>>144110656
No, he was doing great against him. Too bad he was absorbed.

>>144106683
Perfect anon with perfect taste

>>144110519
He literally killed no one with it

>>144119296
>It failed against Fat Buu
Isn't it canon that he just forfeit against Fat Buu because he is fighting autist?

>>144119296

He could have fucked up fat buu easily.
But
>Muh being ded, muh new generation has to win, not me

>>144119449
No and that's a widely spread incorrect meme like Kid Buu being stronger than Super Buu

He forfeit against Fat Buu because fighting as a Super Saiyan 3 was really eating at his time

>>144119582

It's about fat buu though. Fat boo was shittier at fighting than kid buu because he was just such a fat fuck.

>>144110656
Gohanfags may be dumb but anti gohan fags seems even dumber

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>>144106301
>useless
Let us assess that remark:
>it made vegeta mad
>it made buu happy/angry
>it looked great
>it achieved nothing
>it's fairly brief so any villain could out-live it
result: gimmick-tier. useless in-universe but effective for marketing.

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>>144119449
>>144119567
> Isn't it canon that he just forfeit against Fat Buu because he is fighting autist?

> He could have fucked up fat buu easily.

Yes. But that doesn't change the fact that Goku lost.

Also to kill Buu, even Fat Buu, requires a huge amount of stamina which SS3 severely lacks.

So I doubt Goku was right when he said he "could've" beaten Fat Buu.

> Goku underestimated SS3's power drain against Kid Buu

> meaning he would've underestimated it against Fat Buu too.

>>144106301
If there's one thing I can give Toriyama credit for, it's showing the affect of the super forms on characters. Goku's progressive growth from carefree to overconfidence and cockiness is really well done

>>144118367
SSJ3 is forcibly straining the form to its limit through the same method one does with SSJ2. This is why its so difficult. SSJ3 is stupid and has almost no practical uses with your normal body. I.E. Why Goku learned it but Vegeta didn't. SSJ3 is cannon the wrong way to improve the form.

>>144118586
You mean like same thing that happen with ssj1 after the frieza saga?

>>144120175
They spent a long time playing around with SSJ though; the real theme of Android/Cell saga is the Saiyans learning the depth of their powers and finding the best way of using it, with Gohan reaching peak effectiveness

>>144120143
Were are you getting all this information?

>>144106301
It's shit, and it looks like shit

>Le off screen training lmao

>>144120269
my headcanon

>>144120175
They should have ended it all after Frieza desu.
Initial kayo-ken was baller as fuck. And that first SSJ transformation gave me chills. After that everything looked too easy. Gohan's very first transformation in the chamber of time was cool but that's about it.

>>144119449
>>144119567
Fat Buu was probably a lot stronger than Goku sized him up to be. Remember, this is before Fat Buu split off the evil part of him, he's the whole Buu. It's just his playful nature that keeps him from powering up Super Buu-level, which would crush SSJ3 Goku.

>>144108333
He said he thinks he could have. I think. Not quite the same.

SSJ3 had the problem of energy drain. One of the times Goku fucked up when training, he could use it all right while dead because no strain, but it wasted too much power to enter and drained too much while in it to be viable as an actual fighting form, improving SSJ2 or SSJ1 like he does now is a better choice.

>>144120766
No I read the manga. Goku states he is pushing it as far as he can go when he is showing boo. Toriyama himself said that SSJ god was the way to go instead of SSJ3.