Berserk episode 2

>>143926754
>What does /a/ think of him
It's not like he's a newly introduced character you mongoloid.

literally climb

>>143927460
>It's not like he's a newly introduced character you mongoloid.

And? You can't talk about liking a character because he's not new?

It's like Brock but OP as hell
I think is the only human without any "superpower" able to fight Guts

He's half the reason I enjoy Farnese's character and her role in the party. I want to see him fight an apostle on his own, see how he fares.

>>143928232
He took out a kelpie, which in my opinion is a creature leagues above some of the apostles. Magic is far more dangerous than a bigger mouth with a hundred teeth. I think he'd be able to win against the snake baron with ease.

>>143930148
I figured about the same. He'd probably be able to take on someone like the count or the baron from the early chapters, who were purely brute strength and massive frames. Against someone like Rosine he'd probably struggle or outright die. Anything above that is Guts-only territory, though I'd be surprised if by some cunning trick he somehow managed to push one of Griffith's generals into a disadvantageous position.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWJHBwLcQfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6PmhTG7Bi0

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>>143930148
>>143930148

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Keep in mind that Guts is experienced and always prepared for apostle fights. There's a reason his sword is so huge - anything less would barely hurt an apostle.
Considering how apostles can survive having their guts cut out, taking a cannon to the chest, or even having their neck pierced by a knife, I doubt Serpico could harm them in any significant way with his rapier and feather sword.

Sure he's pretty strong, but just not specialised enough to be fighting something like that.

>>143930783
Damage is quite inconsistent. Wyald is worried about dying by injuries that don't even come close to what snake baron and the count suffered through. At the same time Rosine seemed the toughest one we've seen yet, pretty much dying when she literally falls apart mid flight.

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>>143930949
>Wyald is worried about dying by injuries that don't even come close to what snake baron and the count suffered through
A sword through the neck, then a knife stab in the heart, then a knife stab right in the eye? Any of thee would kill any normal living thing. And he still had the strength to kill some guards and crawl to the camp to capture Griffith, he was only really killed by Zodd.

The snake baron was shot with a cannon, then cut in half, then shot in the face multiple times with the crossbow, and still only died because a building on fire fell on him, and he was left to burn alive.

The count also got shot by the cannon, and literally got his head cut off, and then stabbed multiple times.

Rosine got shot by the cannon, cut almost in half by the sword, then pierced by the sword, and still had the strength to fly.

There's just no way Serpico could do enough damage to be any problem to an apostle. At least not with his weaponary.

>>143930783
But Serpico has a magic sword.

>>143931376
Yeah that's what I mean, Zodd kills him but he is envisioning the hell void because he is already dying. He's pretty damaged but the count, baron and Rosine suffered damage that was comparable to Wyald being torn up by Zodd. Besides that decapitation seems yo do the trick for most apostles, the count lived through it because of his ability. If Serpico used the sword of the sylph on the baron to decapitate him I think it'd be over.

>>143931695
>>143931394

My point is I doubt the sylph sword has enough cutting power to really damage an apostle, let alone to compare with the dragonslayer, which by itself is often insufficient.

>>143932743
Isn't it the fact you're using a weapon that functions in multiple layers? A dragonslayer that didn't have the magic power would be less effective. At the same time, in the current fusion of the layers any weapon should be able to effectively wound apostles and mythical creatures.

>>143932900
That's not the problem, apostles can die from a normal sword. I'm just saying that Guts uses a huge sword, because his enemies are huge. You couldn't kill an eleohant with a knife you know. I doubt Serpico's weapons just cut deep enough to be any threat to apostles.

>>143933572
At the state they are in now that seems so. Wonder if they'll evolve somehow. Won't be interesting like this forever, even more so for Isidro's glorified lighter.

>>143930540
>pic
why can't teh entire fucking show be like this goddamnit

>>143927806
>no superpower
>literally has a magic cape that lets him fly and a magic sword that can send blades of air slicing through opponents yards away
alright

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Its annoying they did not explain why Farnese can't see Puck before showing Serpico's reaction to the demons. It really lessens the impact of realizing Serpico isn't a believer like everyone else.

>>143935798
This is not for non manga readers anyway. No way you can follow this without prior knowledge.

>>143926754
Gundam IGLOO came out in 2004 and had better cgi

>>143935983
I understand that but its laziness. They could have had Puck just state that non believers can't see him to Guts and then the cut to Serpico. It would cause an interest in him as a character for the audience.

>>143930540
Awesome as this is they can't make 3 minute episodes of Berserk.

How the fuck the rating for the episode 02 is lower than episode 01?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/07/09/berserk-episode-the-holy-iron-chain-knights-review

and she says "little rushed"
What the fuck? the pace was fine in the episode 02. In episode 01, they skipped a lot of things and she didn't say that.

>>143936909
don't bother, this is ign.

>>143936909
Why do you care about that shit website anyways?

They were probably only paid to review episode 01.

I like berserk, and while the animation of this adaptation sucks, it's still fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3kpzmylhg

>>143937268
this gets me everytime.

Episode is an original content by Miura apparently.

>>143937268

BOW BOW BOW BOW BOW

>>143937610
Episode 03*

>>143936228
The Berserk PS2 game had cutscenes that were better than this.

>>143938311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xduCZAO_ftc
Damn right it did

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>>143938311

>>143938373
Kill yourself memeing crossposter

>>143930478
He wouldn't have a chance against the count. Nigga was huge and he had a regeneration ability. Unless serpico is willing to take a little girl hostage, he just won't beat the count.

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>>143938432
>>143938311
>The Berserk PS2 game had cutscenes that were better than this.
>>143938432
Nice meme.

>>143927806
He didn't use either of those things when he fought Guts in the pillar place.

>>143930783
isn't he supposed to be a stupidly great tactician/strategist?

He never straight up fights Gutts but chooses to fight him in locations that give him an edge because otherwise Guts would fucking obliterate him

if he had enough time and gathered enough info on a target Apostle he could probably take it, it's not like Guts ever just fucking murders Apostles, he usually has to work out the best way to eviscerate them, and even then he usually just blows them the fuck away out of desperation

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>>143938622
>it's not like Guts ever just fucking murders Apostles

But yeah, maybe with proper preparation Serpico could take an apostle down. He doesn't lack the skill.

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>>143935495
He didn't have either of those during his final duel with Guts you dumb bastard. As a matter of fact he didn't have them any of the times he chose to engage him, and every time he was damn close to snatching victory. For a human with no powers or magic equipment that's fucking incredible, the cape and sword merely puts him near or on Guts' level with the berserker armor.

>>143938871
fucking cursed armor doesn't count, I'm talking about using what god gave them

I am so sad that we will never see the count arc and lost children animated. People say that the early chapters are bad and edgy, but imo, those chapters are really important for guts's character development. His redemption and him slowly becoming more human is so much more meaningful if we see him in his lowest point. Once he was ready to kill/use innocents as meat shields, he hated weak people, he trusted nobody and he was basically a madman fuled by hate and the desire for revenge. Sometimes he was even more destructive than the apostles. Now he has started to trust people again, and acts as a wise mentor/ father figure for his team, He is willing to use the lethal berserker armor, to protect his new friends, he has regained a sense of humor and he no longer fights for revenge, Now he fights for love.

Skipping the black swordsman arc takes away all that development. Instead of being the most broken man who still managed to get back on his feet, he now goes from a somewhat angry and very atheistic swordsman, to a slightly better person.

>>143939298
No wonder Casca didn't get any, all these shotas had each other.

>>143938897
pre-magical items Serpico is stronger and a better tactician than pre-eclpise Griffith. This is fact.

>>143939419
Why do you think that? We've barely seen Griffith fight at all. The only significant ones are the three fights against Guts and that short fight with Zodd. It's just impossible to compare them with that little info.

>>143939419
Serpico wouldn't take old man dick

>>143939419
Oh here we go.

>>143939556
It's simple, Serpico managed to draw with dragonslayer+handcannon Guts, while Griffith lost against pre-eclipse Guts.

>>143939585
He wouldn't need to

>>143939825
Neither would Griffith. He just wanted it.

>>143939815
He is right though. Anyone who would disagree with him it's a retard.
It's just like >>143939825 said

>>143935798
I haven't read the manga and would like to know why she can't see puck. I've been googling but haven't found any mention of it yet.

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>To where they will become one
>Hell is referenced as a swirling mass of dark souls where you lose your consciousness/individuality and just become part of the mass
He's totally sending those souls to Hell isn't he

>>143941130
Look at what he did to become a physical god in the first place, what do you think?

>>143941130
Probably

I wish that never got mentioned at all. The entire concept is too fucked up.
Vargas is in hell, all the hawks, all the kids from Rosine's transformations, Jill will go there too, all the victims of Wyald, and Guts and Casca will too. Depending on the spread of demonic influence do will Rickert, Erica, and Guts' new party.

>>143940924
Firm believes ignore the supernatural. Basically they are dumb adults that don't believe in fairy tales anymore.

>>143940924
I don't remember it exactly, but I think it's because she is too close-minded and religious to accept the reality of magical creatures, so she can't consciously see them.

>>143941130
What the hell is griffiths endgame?
Let's take a quick look at everything he has done.
He became a god hand member.
Then got a real body in the real world.
After that he became a hero and defeated the Kushan invaders.
While doing that he merged the astral world and the normal world, making the normal world uninhabitable.
He also created the only place where humans can be safe, and right now, all of humanity is forced to go there.

What is his plan? Does he intend to sacrifice all of those humans? There won't be another eclipse for a few hundred years. Also, what would he ask for? He can't ask for more power or something like that, because the other God hand members might not agree with his desires. Also, he does not care about anybody, how can he sacrifice the people, if he has no connection to them?

My theory is that he know that guts will come to his city, and he needs that to happen. Maybe guts's presence will help him being forth a new eclipse.

Guts is the Void to Griffith's Gaiseric is what seems to be a popular theory. Falconia gets sacrificed, the cycle completes and restarts. Welcome to Dark Souls.

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So, after hearing how awful this show was I picked up the manga. I just got to the part where Guts got his Berserker Armor.

Jesus christ

Also why is Skull Warrior a top tier bro?

>>143941722
He's not such a bro according to his legacy, he's just wise n shit

Am I suppose to like Zodd? The guy seems pretty... "decent" for a demon.

>>143941716 meant for
>>143941643

>>143941850
yes, I think we are supossed to like most of the new band of the hawk commanders. They seem to be honourable at least, unlike low-tier apostles.

Also, I hear people complaining that berserk has been a light hearted shonenshit ever since the troll arc. I think that miura is working really hard to lure us in to a false sense of security. I mean, guts has over 10 companions right now, and everyone is doing well. I am 100% sure that half of them will die before the end of the manga.

It's just another happy shounenshit adventure for the jrpg crew, when suddenly some of griffiths monions pop out off nowhere and kill serpico, isidoro and Azan in one attack. Guts would instantly loose his shit, put on the berserker armor and start running for griffiths little city.

>>143941850
A demon is a demon as will become apparent, but Zodd isn't that bad for one.

>>143926754
He's pretty *clang*

>>143941970
I think he just changed his tone. To be honest I don't think nkre gruesome shit would be effective at all. It happened, we all had the shock, now it's pretty much a darker golden age again. It'll be mystery if anything. I think that's partly the reason for the original episode three in this anime, him writing it tells me he didn't like the horse as much in the first place.

>>143941643
Collecting souls for energy.

>>143941531
>>143941358
i suspected it had something to do with her monotheistic religious background preventing her from seeing supernatural creatures, but I wasn't sure since she makes reference to blasphemy and heresy a lot implying that she might be at least aware of their existence.

>>143941984
Zodd does not harm humans who aren't soliders, he follows a code of honor and he is all around a great guy, although a little blood/battle thirsty (like a true berserker). The thing is, we don't know who he sacrificed to become like this. I hope we never find out, since it would make him more of a villain if we knew who he screwed over to achieve his current power.

>>143942147
It's not really clear. The priest was able to see Puck, but in the manga there are like 16 volumes between that guy and Farnese so it could also be a change in writing.

>>143939298
Oh just boys being boys, it takes me back to the good old days. There's more doujin of guts and griffith then one can possibly imagine, and it might as well be cannon

>>143942114
That's a good theory.

But energy for what? Also, he doesn't even have to sacrifice any of them. People die every day, and he sends them to hell. His city is like a giant battery. New Humans are born, while the old die and get sent to hell.

>>143942172
He was a powerful warrior who was so strong no one could beat him, so he sacrificed his strength. Then became even more powerful. Shitty deal.

>>143942089
>he didn't like the horse as much in the first place.
TRAITOR!

Hang him!

>>143941643
He used Guts and Casca to facilitate him getting that body. They manipulated him into showing up and protected them for the time being.

>>143942213
Perhaps the priest has more experience/hard knowledge? I mean Farnese was an elite holy warrior in training so perhaps she was innocent and learned about them only in theory?

>>143942322
That doesn't make any sense? Then instead of his friends, Griffith could just have sacrificed his ambition to gain what he really wants. No, he had to sacrifice someone he loved.

>>143942468
his kitty Lion-O

Inb4 Zodd had sex with guts's mom and she was hanged because of that. And this is the reason why guys is superhumanly strong and why he and Zodd both look and act alike.

>>143942468
>>143942504
twas a joke, but on a serious note the egg apostle sacrificed his view of the world basically, a concept instead of a person. Could argue he sacrificed himself but description tells otherwise.

>>143942569
>current Griffith is Zodd's grandson
cute

>>143939232
you sound like a total tool

"now he fights for love"

but other than that i agree with you

So why the fuck is Guts' behelit blue?

>>143942786
Egg of the conqueror is the red one, that's a special behelit to become a godhand. Blue ones make apostles.

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>>143939585
Who needs old man when you have your sister

>>143942306
It's in their name. They are the God Hand. They serve the God of Evil or whatever its name was. We don't know yet what this god wants.

>>143942895
They don't serve it, it just made it possible for them to exist. Also seems it just wants chaos as it's the manifestation of evil ideas, doesn't seem to be some plot behind it.

>>143942990
They're called the God "HAND" but they don't serve that god? I'm pretty sure they're preparing for something specific, just like they prepared to make Griffith the 5th member. Doesn't seem like they're spreading chaos just for the sake of it.

>>143939825
>managed to draw with dragonslayer+handcannon Guts
While he had the environmental advantage and prep time.
Also I doubt Guts was fighting to kill whereas with Griffith he was

>>143941130
Tis the general idea of what hell is

a place so forsaken that all but the worst of the worst lose themselves and become one with hell itself

>>143941643
>won't be another eclipse for a few hundred years

mark my words this is what the God Hand is counting on, making all their enemies assume they have a few hundred years before their endgame is enacted, but the natural order is so fucked up now and the God Hand's presence is felt so completely around the world that they can probably force an eclipse to happen at their leisure now

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>>143943241
Guts wasn't fighting to kill if he was Griffith would be dead. Guttses sword did stop you know? I would say the main difference is the way Serpico parries not how strong he is. Not to mention how they are two different cuts from Gutts.

>>143941643
>What the hell is griffiths endgame?
I guess to become worshiped as The Jesus of the Berserk Universe.
Have Guts show up to be the big bad Black Swordsmen who's up to no good that he'll eventual have to

>>143943241
>he was fighting to kill his best friend in a mock swordfight , but he totally didn't want to kill a random guy who had been pestering him for a while.

No

>>143943628
this is pretty much case closed.
Serpico>Griffith

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Rereading the Conviction arc. Man, I forgot how heavy this manga gets sometimes.

>>143943758
I wouldn't say so Serpico is merely moving around the dragonslayer and moving it slightly with him whereas Griffith is testing the strength between the two blades from a heavy slash instead of a stab.

>>143942860
Im under the impression that there is more colors, am i wrong?

>>143943846
It doesn't matter, Griffith would be dead if Guts didn't stop, meanwhile Serpico made it out alive on his own merits. And both were fighting to win, not to "test strength between blades"

>>143943628
>>143943666
I meant at the start of the series when Griffith recruited him.
You're still right in hindsight

>>143942786
Because he used the black blood to become a super kabaneri.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCfTAhTpfio

>>143926754
is it still cg?

>>143944191
No it's a puppet show now

>>143943765
>Princess Mononoke's final act.jpg

>>143941850
More like honorable would describe his attitude
I mean he sided with guts to take down the big nosed emperor in full apostle form

>>143943968
No I am agreeing with you Serpico is stronger than Griffith but not for the reason you think. Griffith lost because he had to maintain dominance over Guts and display he was still leagues above him. Because of that Griffith rushed the fight. Serpico is stronger than Griffith because he doesn't have to maintain the vision of holiness and dominance. Serpico is allowed to fight someone when they are at their weakest Griffith isn't. That is why Griffith lost the duel. Griffith decided to match strength and durability with Guts.

>>143944191
Due to budget constraints, it's now a stop motion lego series.

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Wait, did this happen in the mango?

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can't even compete against a ps2 game.

>>143944504
Nope desu

>>143944504
are the holy iron chain knights based in midland or a neighboring country?

I honestly don't remember

>>143942650
Would that also mean that all babies Griffith makes while in this body will be Guts' grandchildren?
Did he just cuck both Guts and himself?

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What is this scene trying to convey

>>143944674
Because it had actual textures.

>>143944674
Why the long face Guts?

HAAAAAIIIII YAAAAAAAH

>>143945450
Schierke was a mistake

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>EP 2
how much best boy?

>>143946012
Not enough

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Thinking about buying the movies.
Should I go for the set or individual releases?

>>143943765
They tricked Guts and Casca into going there for their resurrection ceremony.

>>143946860
Why would you buy each individually when you can get all of them in one box cheaper?

>>143946012
Man, his chibi form does not translate well to this artstyle

>>143942720
Idolmaster was a mistake.

>>143946012
still don't understand why chibi puck isn't 2D like...

why

>>143926754
It's so bad and it hurts so much.

It's exactly what we deserve.

>>143948826
because money and laziness

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I can't believe we got this level of animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lt-Ow4sCR0 (made in 2001 mind you).
Also, the problem is that the anime really lacks the eerie, more brutal feel of the manga. Pic related (from the 2008 pilot) was also made with CGI but the way Guts' swing was done adds impact. Guts's swings in the new anime just lacks Guts's ferocity in battle.

>>143950648
Wait, Sagat?

>>143927460

He never said he was you illiterate cocksplat.

Anybody got a link to the Dark Horse translations?
Apparently i have only read the shitty translations.

>>143941643
Griffith's endgame is just to make his own country and be a king, but more than likely that at some point the rest of God Hand will pull the rug out from under him and sacrifice Falconia in order to accomplish whatever it is they want

>>143937268
I don't get it. How is this funny?

>>143937610
Wouldn't be too awkward to see lolis and rainbows on the Conviction arc?

Who the fuck covers their breasts willist whipping themselves in the back?

>>143951381
Farnese.

But why is Casca white tho

>>143951174
What really did it for me was the metallic pan noise

>>143951703
Yeah, but what is the context? Just a bunch of noises? You could put that on anything.

>>143943183

They serve Causality. Fate. Griffith was fated to do what he's done. The God Hand are fated to do what they're going to do.

Only Skull Knight, Guts and Casca are outside the realm of Causality now.

>>143944342
I would almost prefer that, actually.

>>143943936

Don't think so. The only special Behelit was Griffith's, and presumably the Behelits that formed the rest of the God Hand. The varying strength of the Apostles seems to mostly stem from their convictions and how much they sacrificed rather than some kind of "type of Behelit" thing.

I see a lot of people saying the next episode will have "the horse scene"

Is this referring to Rape Horse?

t. someone who knows nothing about berserk other than jokes and this new series

>>143951730
Have you watched the anime? Every time his sword clanks against something, which is often, it makes that noise.

>>143952010
I've watched the old anime, but not the new one.

Guess I didn't have any context but forgive me for not watching it knowing full well its going to be shit.

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>>143951730

could you even put it on a sliced little girl?

>>143948936
Fuck. Off. If a show upsets you then please just go away and shit in a urinal or do whatever it is you do other than shitpost. This trend of posting lazy quips and half-assed critiques instead of contributing to the discussion is getting tiring to say the least.

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>>143943241
>he had environmental advantage and prep time

That means Serpico is an excellent tactician. He's smart enough to only get into conflicts when the fight is in his favor. Not like chucklefuck Griffith who fucks princesses on a whim and fucks himself over.

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>>143952044

>Complains about not having context to get the joke

>Hasn't seen the material

>mfw

>>143952410
I assume the context was something else.

Doesn't matter, I'm not watching that CGI shitfest even for memes.

>>143951811
They used Guts and Casca to open the door. They lured Guts to Casca while he was in the Elf cave by sending him a message. They even prevented any evil spirits from hurting Casca until a certain number of people died.

>>143952121
Not him, but you aren't actually DEFENDING the new anime, are you?

The 3D character models look fucking awful, with so little detail on them that it should be illegal. The contrast between 2D closeups and 3D anything hurts every time it happens.

The animation is lazy, under-animated, and looks like it was done by some no-name video game company in the dreamcast era. Everybody either looks like they're shifting between a bunch of set poses, or they hardly move at all, making me wonder why they couldn't have just drawn that part.

Guts's face and hair in particular is a fucking page 1 rewrite, and not anything close as to what should be expected of anything in 2016. Especially his face. It looks strange in every shot.

And being 3D, you would think they would try to take advantage of camera angles and character movement that would be extremely hard to do, but aside from a couple 360 degree camera pans here and there, it's just standard anime cinematography.

I can't convey my thoughts clearly through text but I hope this was enough to satisfy you.

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>>143952054
Christ, even from a still image I can tell it's 3D.

Take away the sketchy filter on the shadows and this anime would be the worst looking 3D tv show this year.

NOBODY HAS ANY TEXTURES ON THEM. IT'S JUST SOLID GODDAMN COLORS. WHAT THE FUCK

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>>143952758
The goddamn Naruto games look better than this shit, and these were made by a video game company for a game where the cutscenes aren't even the main focus. Y'all fucked up.

>>143952888
http://youtu.be/0tuVb2SprvY

Skip to 02:55.
Ignoring the fact that it's naruto for a moment, look at the animation. All the effects. The attention to detail on everything. How the animation is rendered in 30fps instead of "6-12fps because that's how anime is".

I think if the anime looked as good as this game did nobody would be complaining.

>>143944674
they should have given him a chin instead of a face so pointy it could be used as can opener

>>143951811

I thought they served the Idea of Evil, unless that's completely non-canon.

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>>143952758
>NOBODY HAS ANY TEXTURES ON THEM.
But that's normal for anime characters.

Clothes have some patterns, there may be a few scruff marks if they're injured or they're old, but that's it pretty much.

So do you think the odds are that this adaptation is going to get a dub?

>>143953888

High. It's crap, but it's Berserk, so it already has some kind audience. Besides, every piece of shit gets dubbed these days, eventually.

>>143953782
Yeah but it doesn't work on a 3D model unless you have good animation and lighting to back it up.

Berserk2016 has neither.

>>143944483
I would actually love to watch a Lego Berserk.

>>143953916
I just hope they get the original dub trio back. Also I bet if they do a dub, Monica Rial or Sarah Anne Williams are going to play Puck.

>>143953888
High because Berserk is pretty entry level and I bet that in order to bring in more casuals, they (i.e ANN) would definitely advertise it as something like
>Game of Thrones meet Hellraiser

>>143941643
It will be that old city under midland v2.

>>143954106

For some reason, I agree. Those three, despite most of the rest of the cast sounding bad, really did make the dub work. Also Void.

>>143954116

Yeah, gotta play that relevant hot angle, but it really is more like Conan meets Hellrasier.

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>>143939419
tactician =/= strategist
That said, serpico would mop the floor with pre eclipse griffith on a 1 v 1, maybe even guts pre dragon slayer/arm canon/crossbow

>>143941643
Be a king with his own kingdom and shit? It seems like he already achieved his endgame or at least his original dream. At the moment it seems like he's more of just waiting to finish up the business with Guts.

>>143954163
Conan is an irrelevant franchise to the typical modern audience. What it really is like doesn't matter, GoT is the hot brand and vaguely shares enough similarities to sell. Remember the SnK = walking dead comparison they did?

>>143954128
The only people who sounded bad in the old dub are Zodd when he is in his demon form and Boscone.
I would say as an overall dub it was pretty good.
Void's VA would be nice though I don't think Void ever spoke after the Eclipse in the Manga but once. I guess you could make him the narrator though.

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Barnes and Noble is having a B2G1 deal on all mango
Is the Dark Horse release of Berserk good? I was considering getting the first few volumes by taking advantage of the deal

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>>143954850
When a barnes and nobles was closing in a mall near me I managed to pick up berserk vol 1-31 for only 70$
It's a good thing muurkah hates reading I guess

>>143954850
It's the best translation, so yeah.

>>143954850
Barnes and Noble almost always puts one of those fucking sticker tags inside of manga volumes that is almost impossible to remove without damaging the page. Pisses me off.

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>>143950648
There was a clip? I thought it was only some "mysterious screenshots". Who animated that and what happened to it?

>>143951134
This. I also think that First and Griffith will fight a common enemy later. Femto Griffith seemed more cruel too and that's not just cause he's faking it now. He's gonna accept that he was brainwashed and lash out.

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>>143945744

I just finished the manga for the first time. Did something happen to Miura around the time Schierke was introduced? It just seemed to get kind of "generic fantasy" around that point. I just think the way she overexplains everything takes away from it, among other things. Guts' behavior became very predictable too.

I still thought it was good, but that it just went from great to good at that point.

>>143956286
Guts, not first. The fuck phone.

>>143956351
He chilled out, and it was the times too. Back then everything was more gritty. I prefer this jrpg tone over constant gore and rape. Same goes for the apostles, they're more fun as Zodd like honorable Knights than the snake who is the samw as the count. It evolved for the better.

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This is the real reason Mirua let this happen.

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>>143926754
Can't wait for more of his reactions.

>>143952888
>>143953086
>WHY DOES A GAME FROM ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR MANGA EVER HAVE MORE BUDGET THAN A BERSERK ANIME

Are you fucking stupid?

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>>143956563

>>143955595
same guys who made the three movies.

cancelled in favor of this anime :)

>>143939419
>>143939556
1. Griffith was famed for being the best swordsman in Midland.

2. Griffith lost to Guts because his sword broke, Serpico's sword would break too.

3. The bakiraka or whatever indian guy would completely wreck Serpico while I'm sure Griffith would be able to kill him because he injured Zodd, one of the strongest apostles.

>>143938897
Serpico can't do shit against Guts, even with his magical shit Guts would kill him without the armor. You forget how dangerous the apostles Guts has kill were.

>>143944874
midland, from what i recall, but i'm just rereading the manga, haven't actually gotten there yet. but farnese's family is in that midland city, soooo

>>143956861
My entire point was that if they couldn't make the anime look at least as good as a video game's cutscenes, then they shouldn't have done it at all.

>tfw really liked this episode

The first one was shit but so was the first one of the old anime because it was like >OH WAIT YOU LIKED THAT HUH? WELL FUCK YOU, LET US FOCUS ON THE RATHER NORMIE PART OF GUTS' LIFE FOR THE NEXT LITERAL 20 YEARS

>>143944874
>>143957876
I'm reading the manga for the first time and just made it to chapter 200.

I'm getting a Vatican vibe. They talk about the Holy City as its own thing (like Vatican). Like the Crusades, the See (read as papacy if referring to reality) extends its influence beyond normal country borders. In the last couple of chapters where Farnese and Serpico join the Guts' Hanse they talk about Holy lands where the Holy See set up camp and authority. Or extend their authority to nobility like Farnese's father.

I'm elated and ashamed I never got around to the manga until now.

>>143940924
I don't see how you can enjoy this without reading the manga

>>143951174
It's like 12 year olds laughing at that pewdiepie guy they are retarded and dumb shit amuses them

>>143941970
Miura is setting up for Guts to sacrifice his friends for the power to kill Griffith.
Or at least, he's setting up for Guts to be put in that moral dilemma.

>>143942786
Because you didn't read the fucking manga

>>143958548
the manga doesn't mention the color or guts' behelit m8

>>143951981
neigh

>>143952477
Then stop ignorantly posting in a thread specifically tailored for discussion about that CGI shitfest.

>>143941130
Maybe it's not so bad. You just lose your consciousness and become a part of a titanic mass of soul like energy. Who would know?

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<--- Episode 03 confirmed for an orginal story by Miura Kintaro-sensei

>>143958627
It mentions that Griffiths is red

>>143956861
Berserk is massively popular too, you idiot, what's your point?
Bill Gates is incredibly more wealthy than Steve Jobs, but that doesn't mean Steve Jobs is insanely wealthy in his own right.
Sure, Naruto's probably more popular but that's not why a game about it looks legitimately good and full-feature anime series about the other looks like complete dogshit.

>>143958763
Idolm@ster crossover confirmed?

>>143953086
you sure know a lot about this naruto game queer-bait

>>143958770
And that has nothing to do with other behelits.

>>143958770
Behelits can be yellow, (fading) green, and blue. Only God Hands Behelits are crimson red.

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>>143941643
>Every 216 years an Eclipse happens
>Griffith is fated to bring darkness to the world as the Hawk of Light
>Elfhelm's time flows differently compared to the normal world

It's obvious, isn't it?

>>143938337
Fuck me that final shot. I just don't understand how a series of such epic scale can be shafted so hard and have so few adaptations with any semblance of quality.

>>143938337
I'm more intrigued as to how the fuck this guy calibrated the audio settings in PCSX2 to not sound like shit

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>>143938337
>retards think this is better than the anime
You might end yourself after going back to >>>/v/

>>143957543
Studio 4C was going to animate beyond the golden age? Wow now Im fucking pissed. They were using less cg with each film and their 2D was excellent. They also had better direction and soundtrack. Hell the cg for the third movie was actually good.

I remember an interview saying that they were going to do lost children arc and use way less cg for it. I had wondered what had happened with that. Now you're telling me they canceled it for this 6 fps CLANG horseshit? >>143950648 actually looks damn great.

Why?

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>Miyuki Sawashiro is voicing Luca
I don't think my dick is ready for this.

>>143959551
>Studio 4C was going to animate beyond the golden age? Wow now Im fucking pissed
no there wasn't. This is it. Studio 4C is as garbage as the new studio. The movie was a bit better because it was a MOVIE (more budget and time). It would've been the same thing if they did a tv series.

I'm enjoying the new tv seris btw.

>>143959589
She was better being Slan.

>>143951095
just google.

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>>143926754
>What does /a/ think about him anyways?

I like him. His backstory is nicely laid out and informs most of his actions. He's written in a way that he doesn't need a lot of screentime to shine (aside from that flashback, but that was shared with Farnese), which makes him a good supporting character. He's the kind of character who's mostly in the background, but when he gets the spotlight, it's usually fucking awesome.

>>143959634
She's still Slan.

>>143959376
pleb taste

>>143959741
She's gonna do two roles? Odd choice, though in a good way.

On a scale of one to CLANG how much do you look forward to the new episode every week?

>>143954850
The Dark Horse version is completely uncensored, if that's what you're worried about.

>>143959815
I'm halfway convinced most of the budget went to VAs at this point.

>>143958833
steve jobs has been dead for a while now..

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>>143959815
> Anime only fags are going to watch it and then start speculating that Luca is Slan
> they'll think that she's hiding her alter ego as being Slan and wonder when she'll backstab Guts and co. or wonder if Slan is her split personality

>>143959979
Yeah and I'm not gonna google search rich dudes just so I can get a living example, the point still stands and gets across just perfectly fine.

>>143959989
She is slan though

>>143926754
He's autistic as fuck, it will be interesting how his story progresses during Elfhelm.

>>143926754
Serpico is my fucking man, without a doubt my favorite.

>>143953981
Berserk2016 has nothing. It would look bad no matter what you do due to their crappy budget.

If they used more time on textures then the armor models would look simpler or some shit like that.

It sucks on so many fronts that you can't do one single thing to salvage it.

>>143961746
>Berserk2016 has nothing.
I like it. Ep 02 was faitfull, ep03 is an origina story by the author himself.

It's OK for me, but even Berserk Pachinko had the better CG, I heard.

>>143959829
I'm more excited about it after this episode, if the next episode was actually written by Miura it might be decent.

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I've only recently starter reading Berserk, but holy shit, this turned out to be the best fucking manga I've read

>>143962524
Mozgus did nothing wrong.

>>143959829
For whatever reason my enjoyment of it went up a fuck load from this episode. I might just be getting used to the 3D, but I'll keep watching.

>>143958989

i hope this isn't true because it means we'd have all of Rickert and Luca's arc's being 100% completed before guts gets off the island and that'll take forever

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>>143959551
>I remember an interview saying that they were going to do lost children arc and use way less cg for it
And now we don't even get that. Moth girl never. Rape horse never.

>>143962524
Same here. I had the reaction image for years and upon finally seeing the scene it was in it was everything I wanted and more. I'm scared to read past the troll church though because of >>143956351
>>143956445

>>143936253
i think it did a pretty good job of it on it's own by alluding to it this episode and then probably fleshing it out in the next

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>>143964277
Forgot said pic. Also why is Griffith such a perfect angel?

>>143964214
wyald never

>>143964713
I'm still mad. No extra Zodd either nor the prophecy he gives.

>>143964776
yea you could guts was all like "fuuuuuuuuuuuuck he's right..." like he never actually thought about that being a possibility

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DOES ANYONE
HAVE A FULL VERSION
OF
HAI YOOOOOOOOOO

>>143926754
Best boy is going to become a cuck because of Roderick

>>143964973
No, we won't have one for a while.

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>>143926754
A reincarnation of Judeau is always based in my book.

>>143959829
This episode was way better so I'm anticipating the next one cautiously. The CG didn't look quite as jarring all the time though it still did in places. Farnese was as a total qt as expected. It was also just plain nice to see something that wasn't Golden Age for the first time in a while.

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>>143946012
I actually really fucking love chibi Puck

how did Miura get trolled into letting this happen

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>>143965255
He needs the money for a VR setup

>>143964973
FUCKING WHEN

>>143941643
To become a messiah.
Think about what he did, he ended wars, created a utopia for humans.
He saved humanity from being fucked over by Ganishka.

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>>143965914
Guts will bring it all crashing down.

All for revenge.

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>>143965255
Miura like the anime.

>>143965914
The only real question is what he and his apostles are gonna do when the other Godhand members start bringing it all down. Will he just not give a shit (which becoming a demon seems to imply) or will he start fighting the Godhand? The second option seems more satisfying, but also more generic.

>>143965947
nah, he'll decide to try to live a quite life with casca but then the ioe will come to griffith and state that stipulation of his apostleness is that he must have the sacrifice be killed within a certain time period , or his kingdom will come crashing down so now he has to track them down and kill them.

Serpico is fine. I hope he wins the Morda bowl.

>>143966155
>Will he just not give a shit
while he does not give a shit about the people as individuals, he will still realize the folly of a king without a kingdom.

>>143966044
this trigger me

>>143962524
>they start like this
>later they become those obnoxious assholes who only complain

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>>143944504
>Green suit

>>143966044
Episode 3 is all new? Might be good.

I wish that fucker had a twitter though.

Is the 1997 berserk series any good?

The music it seems to be great

>>143967106
watch it on youtube

and it does a better job of portraying the manga than the movies and is a little bit more faithful too

>OMG I SWEAR GUTS FARTED AT THAT PART IN THE MANGA WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS THIS NOT IN THE MOVIE/ANIME

>>143967106
It's pretty good.

>>143967106
It's kinda like Record of Lodoss War in that it's well drawn, but barely animated. And yeah, the music is kinda legendary.

>>143967106
the only complain are the still shots, but honestly thats typical of 90s anime, and still shots at least are good looking.

>>143967106
It has mediocre production, but it carries the sould and atmosphere of the golden age arc. And the golden age arc is fucking spectacular.

>>143967106
>Is the 1997 berserk series any good?
garbage slideshow that cut a lot of things.

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Reading through this for the first time

Can someone explain what happened here? Why did the bug elves turn into real elves?

>>143930540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUMLwN5z0mI

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>>143967173
>better job of portraying the manga than the movies and is a little bit more faithful too
>no Skully
Yeah, no.

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>>143968193
>no puck

>>143968086
Well the world is built on belief, ie Idea of Evil.
Maybe they just believed really hard.

>>143968086
Those aren't the bug elves. Puck is feeling that there was once a strong presence of real elves in Rosine's glade and the feeling is so strong that he's actually seeing a faint image of them, which is why they're all see-through. This is a set up for how he comforts her when she dies.

I just watched the first episode of the 1997 series and it was okay I guess. The drawings look beautiful and I like how detailed everyone's faces are.

But the battles felt slow, and the lack of animation in them really sucks.

>>143968207
To be fair, if your adaption is pretty much just Golden Age you're better off cutting him out rather than have the secondaries go "wait, what happened to the cute elf girl?".

>>143968362
The 1997 series is more atmospheric because of the soundtrack and dark palettes. It's more fun to read the manga then see how it was adapted to appreciate the anime more.

>>143926754
High class cuck warrior.

Why can't they make a good adaptation of Berserk from A to Z with an OAV series?

I don't think a TV series will work well for Berserk.

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>watch the new anime
>hear Puck's voice
>mfw
That is not at all what I expected him to sound like

>>143968977
what did you expect?

>>143969049
I dunno, a little bit more "boy-ish" I guess, and less "lady doing a poor 'boy' voice"

>>143941643
>Does he intend to sacrifice all of those humans?
Everyone who says this is ignorant and doesn't understand Griffith.

Power is his endgame. Once he has amassed ultimate power, which he basically already has done, he is going to voluntarily let it all collapse, so that he can experience it all again. A subtle hint of foreshadowing on this is when Griffith's heart begins to stir when he watches Guts fight Zodd again — Griffith loves the rising action of a story.

t. guy who has read Nietzsche's entire bibliography

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>>143955595
>>143959551
That gif came from the short pilot that Studio 4C made to show and convince Miura in 2008 that they were competent enough to adapt his material. They never released the full 70-second pilot, but a few scenes were shown in an Imagine-Nation episode: https://youtu.be/GJo9HtK10oM?t=10m32s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt4VWLFa6n4
My guess was that Studio 4C was getting too overly ambitious and looked forward to adapting the material post-eclipse, but then the movies ended up doing not so great in theatre and BD/DVD sales. Had they've been more popular, I'm pretty sure they would have considered making at least another movie.

>>143967106
It's a slideshow, but it's a well directed slideshow with awesome background music

>>143964973
https://soundcloud.com/nm-16/berserk-2016-selection-of-new-songs-ep12#t=11:48

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Just saw it.

The flashbacks looked great, I thought it was a decent mix of hand art and cgi. They definitely should have used this for the series instead.
Combat still looks janky as fuck, but the new 2d scenes didn't look that bad.
I'm not a fan of how Serpico came out in 3D, and I expected Farnese's torture and punishment to be more grisly.
Rape Horse and grinding the sword are probably cut, with it being replaced with Miura's new story in ep3 to show Farnese about demons.

It wasn't particularly bad, but it's still far from good. I'm hoping it turns out like Ace Atourney and gets a massive jump in production quality half way through.

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>>143967862
>Implying you can escape the stills

>>143972219
That knight on the right holy fuck
>aw man I got cut in half
>this sucks

>>143972219
I fucking hate how the cape is one solid color.

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>>143972579

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>>143972700
The coloring is terrible

>>143966044
where's the source

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>>143972219
>>143972579
This shit never ceases to amaze me.

>>143954986
That's a hot deal.
I looked into buying the whole set, but it's going for $400+ on ebay or $10/volume.

>>143955104
Just gotta use a knife to start it and peel slowly. Some stick more than others, but you can do these or the price sticker on vidya cases (also hate that) if you do one whole side then use that to get the rest.

>>143972775
>WOOOW

Anyone knows which song was played when Guts escaped the camp at the end? It was very comfy.

>>143972995
It's Hirasawa's new song, Hai Yo

>>143972995
You mean HAII YOOOO?

>>143968086
>once
They're looking at him though. Isn't it just another layer?

>>143972883
I think it's less the coloring and more the fact that nothing really has texture. Because everything is completely smooth, what is supposed to look like the colorful fabric a noble or knight might actually wear ends up looking like a garish plastic table cover or cheap cosplay.

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>No adult attack in 3D

Can we all just agree that this looks 100% better than Aku no Hana?

>>143973055
>>143973061
You're right.
I didn't recognise it for a second, because it's the preview song, but this time they played the full version of it. It's very good.

>>143956861
A tie in game looks good.

That's mostly not the case.

>>143973296
That shit is already the worst thing ever just because of its character designs. It could have the most stunning animation known to man, yet the characters are so ugly that it would still automatically make it the worst thing ever.
Even regular IRL asians are better looking than those monsters.

>>143973196
I wonder how detailed the cultist orgy will be.

>>143973296
Is this supposed to be a praise?

>>143973296
It's definitely better than that one scene in Mekaku City Actors. Well done.

>>143972958

They aren't instantly dead pal

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>>143973296
>better than Aku no Hana?

a pile of shit with sprinkles on would look better than that so not much praise

>>143974589
Why is the rabbit a meme now? Just because it broke the 4th wall? Who gives a shit?

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>>143974794
it's been a meme for a while

>>143943758
Why is it such a big deal that Serpico is stronger? We never saw Griffith training, he was a prodigy whose most important skill was leadership and strategy. Serpico is clever in a fight but could he maneuver armies and win battles?

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>>143974978

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>>143975273

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>>143975320

>>143967106
It's Berserk minus the few hints of stuff that comes after the eclipse, and like any low budget anime is maybe 60-75% still shots

But it's Berserk 101 rather than Berserk: Cinematic Experience TVA

>>143969049
I honestly expected him to sound like the Parrot from Alladin

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>>143970560
Why would anyone ever pick any other artist other than Hirasawa? Just that one song proves how fitting his style is for Berserk

>>143968193
>no skully
and it had no impact on the plot since it ended at the eclipse

>>143970560
>that shit sound quality
I'll ask again,
Why?

>>143970560
They added a slight touch of metal to the movie OST because the Eclipse was the most metal shit to happen in Berserk and the OST refects that.

>>143976348
probably to edit out the other sfx and voices from the episodes

>>143976157
I know a guy who hasn't even read the manga and watched the anime a long time ago. This new anime, in his mind, meant more of Hirasawa's music above all else. I had to explain he wasn't doing the whole soundtrack, such a bad feel.

>>143978137
Its iconic at this point, he did the OST for the PS2 game too and it was fucking perfect. I just don't see why they wouldn't let him do the whole OST again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV26zIE0130

>>143978137
Why doesn't he just read it? I don't get this whole "I don't like this certain medium" thing. You either consume every kind of media or you don't at all is what's most logical to me.

>>143939419
Scerpio im sure coulnd't injure zodd without magical items, so ima say no. Gutts hit zodd even when he was in midland

2nd episode was leagues better than the first. Bettr pacing, better animation, better everything. Battle music is still jarring as fuck though. I really liked the classically animated parts of flashbacks, why can't we have that?

>>143978268
Not him but people don't want to invest themselves in unfinished works

>>143941130
Hell sounds good then

>>143978626
Anime is unfinished too. It's not an ending, it just cuts off. Is common even for finished Manga like air gear or tenjou tenge. Where are seasons 2?

>>143978683
Get in the damn robot

>>143943449
No, that is the general idea of Nirvana

>>143978728
You don't invest yourself in an 24ep anime as much as you do in a 300+ chapter manga that's been going on for 25+ years though

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>>143978268
>You either consume every kind of media or you don't at all
that's some advanced autism, anon-kun

>>143978838
I'm not saying you need to enjoy the most obscure installation art with narrative, but moviegoers who think books are dumb or readnerds who think movies are below them tick me off. Know lots of these people and it's always the same kind of people who aren't really interested in storytelling at all.

>>143941358
>Guts and Casca will too

Fuck that's too scary when you think about it.

>>143978983
>I'm not saying you need to enjoy the most obscure installation art with narrative
but you are thinking it.

>>143978983
I don't think your average consumer has the will nor time to read something rather than watch it in 10x shorter amount of time. That plus you'd be surprised how much people are off-put by the attempted rape and gore