>good ost >decent enough fight scenes at least it's

>>143680560
Berserk set the bar so low it's not really comparable.

>>143680560
>A 5/10 anime is better than a 1/10 anime

Why is Rose hated?

This first episode was all over the place. Is this going to be one of those shows that's impossible to watch without being familiar with the source material?

>>143682907
She should have been part of main cast, she was shown as heroine in the game, ends up being used only in a dlc you had to buy.
In summary she is a scam.

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>most garbage tales game gets an anime
>deluded animeonlyfags think it'll be good

Atleast with berserk I know the manga is good but this anime and the source material is both garbage.

>>143683102
Aren't you talking about Alisha?

Anyone got a webm of the kid getting sucked into the tornado and catching on fire?

I'm basically only keeping tabs on this for the inevitable Alisha and Laila fanservice. I have no real intention of ever playing the game or watching this show.

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Who here misses Baba?

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Looking forward to the fights.

I like the princess, she seems like she won't just be some useless character since she can actually fight

>>143684068

It seems like "the end of the Tales series golden age" and "the beginning of Baba as the franchise's all powerful authority figure" seem to coincide with each other. To top it off, he was nothing short of a complete dick in regards to Zestiria fiasco.

Good fucking riddance.

>>143683104
>Alishafags still butthurt
Hilarious.

>>143680560
ThIs actually ended up looking incredibly good for the most part. I felt like I was watching a movie with some of those scenes.

>>143686127
the CGI was awful and there was barely any animation.

>>143686165
Pretty sure that fight scene alone had more animation than 5 normal episodes combined, anon

>>143686294
that 30 second scene was the only part of the 20 minute episode with animation of note

>>143686325
There were other bits like the loli and the other guy fucking around. You're pretty retarded if you actually think the 2D animation quality wasnt well above average.

>>143686403


Pretty sure he's the same assblasted sakugafag that hangs around every ufotable thread and gets triggered by any use of digital effects/cgi

It's beyond autistic at this point.

>>143686403
the loli wasn't animated it was basic fucking limb movements repeated a few times

stop being blind. and even this season there are much better animated shows

>>143686662
my favorite anime is made by ufotable, but i won't deny that their current style is cancer.

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If it generates more Edna porn it was all worth it!

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This was so corny I couldn't help but laugh.

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Guess everyone got tired of arguing until next episode rolls around.

I never got into Tales series but should I get the game on steam right now? While it's on sale?

Berseria looks good but it won't come out until next year.

>>143685587
>he actually thinks that's the reason the game sucks

I don't know how it's possible to have a downgrade xillia 2's battle system and then have an annoying camera angles and pass it off as a finished product.

>>143688150
Only play Graces, Xillia 2, Hearts R, Vesperia and Abyss.

Everything else is boring shit.

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>>143688150
Start from the oldest and work your way up. If you play something newer and go in reverse it may be off putting.

Symphonia is a good starting point. I hated it at first because I went in reverse but eventually got addicted. Abyss is good for story. Have fun with back tracking. /v/ will tell you to skip Xillia 1 if you play 2 because most of them don't care about story and their reasoning is it has the exact same assets and locations and there's like an in game encyclopedia for everything. Play Graces only for combat because the story and characters are the worst.

Watch Zestiria because it's not a good starting point for going into Tales.

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>>143680560

First episode was actually good.

But I'm expecting everything to go to shit once we get the generic chosen one MC.

>Hoping for the anime to show malevolence Sorey.

Is there something wrong with me?

>>143688262
>>143688313
The problem is, I only got PS4 and PC.

I can only find Symphonia and Zestriria which, I was told that the I should avoid former on steam due to bad port or something.

>>143688583
>PC
You can emulate Symphonia, Abyss, and Legendia (though everyone but Legendianon think it's the worst next to Tempest). If you're interested in the 2D Tales, Destiny is alright too. I didn't get really far but it was pretty decent from the 2 hours I played. I only don't like how it's all random battles. Combat takes some getting used to but it's not unbearable.

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>>143680560
These two homos will be the only redeeming quality, just like the game.

>>143684457
The best game in the whole series came out during his tenure though.

>>143688583
>Symphonia: shit port of a great game
>Zestiria: fine port of a shitty game
pick your poison anon

>>143687558
there is some retard in every thread trying to defend it, but yeah, atrocious writing

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>>143687473
She sure is sexual.

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>>143688923
Edna best girl! by far!

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Episode needed more Zaveid

>>143688923
If you're a pedophile

Any DECENT subs for this yet?

>>143688817
>Symphonia: shit port of a great story/characters

As a game it was shit

>>143688583
>having a PS4

Should have got a PS3. Most JRPG's coming on PS4 are coming on PC anyways.

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>>143689252

>>143680560
They need to cut down on the sweeping vistas if they are going to use cheap CG.

>>143689549
That wasn't my original intention for buying a PS4 but yes, seems like a lot of the JRPGs are coming out on steam most of the time.

>>143689499
Not true. It still has some of the best combat in the series to this day. The overworld models and some of the dungeon designs were shitty/aged poorly, but it's still one of the best tales games.

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Best girls spotted?

Can I except good things from her?

>>143682907
She took the heroine role from Alisa.

>>143689768
Not really. She plays a very very small role.

>>143689768
she has cool powers and is a cute loli, she also runs cool >>143684309

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>>143689827
...

>>143684068
Fuck that faggot. Glad he's gone.

>>143689870
Maybe they'll flesh her out for the anime, idk

Only played this game until Edna. WTF was going on in episode 1?

>>143690018
a tornado and a dragon happened

>>143690038
a loli stealing tornadodragon!

>>143690069

>stealing

the tornado became pure fire anon.

She's dead.

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>>143690132
Nooooooooooooooo!

>>143680560
>>143684309

This looks kind of cool. What's it about, isn't it based on a videogame or something?

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>>143689760
>It still has some of the best combat in the series to this day

Not even close, besides Zestria it's already been surpassed multiple times in the series. Tos ain't even fun to play with anymore.

>>143690235
The only games with better combat are graces and xillia 2, famalam.

>>143688583
You can emulate the undub of both Symphonia and Abyss on almost any PC.

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>>143690292
>forgetting hearts R

Guard counter GOAT

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>>143690892

Hearts R Is actually the only tales game i've played.

>>143690892
Too bad the game was shit.

>>143689602
What does he mean with that?

>>143690892
>mobileshit
No. Ask again when it gets the Graces f treatment and ends up on a real platform.

>>143690229
It's an adaptation of a video game so loathed there's a Japanese Wiki dedicated to articles about its flaws

>>143689602
Why does she sit like that?

>>143690229
Yes, based on a video game.

Its about some kid who lived with angels or some shit, in an age where everybody believes the angels are just a legend. He shows up to a human city and becomes the person to save it from the end times. or some shit.
First episode is a prologue and didnt introduce the MC.

>>143691492
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for it.

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>>143680560
>Pretending waifubait is better than Berserk

I knew /a/ has shit taste, but this is ridiculous

>>143691379
>mobile shit

The fuck you on? Regardless it is up there with X2 and Graces regarding the combat system.

>>143691096
It's a far better GAME than boring ass symphonia you nostalgia runned babbies.

>>143691605
The anime is pretty shit though. We aren't comparing source material here.

>>143691872
>It's a far better GAME than boring ass symphonia you nostalgia runned babbies.
Anon, I never compared it to Symphonia, I just said Hearts was shit.

>>143691872
>>The fuck you on?
Maybe they mean mobile as in handhelds in general? Or maybe they're incredibly misinformed.

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>>143680560

Something funny that I noticed when I started playing the game was that the VA's pronounce Sorey's name in a weird way, supressing the "o" in "so".

Makes it sound like they are saying "s-rei" or "SLAY" in english, the same way they would say "s-reia" or "SLAYER" in english.

I actually like it. Slay would be a nice name.

>>143692321
>I just said Hearts was shit.
Elaborate.
>>143692341
Mobile games are just cheap cash grab ins where you need to pay for everything. You'd think people would know the difference.

>>143692456
Because his name is basically Slay in japanese.

OST when?

The 2nd half sounded less like Tales and more like the Souls games


I hope there's more

>>143692739
>>The 2nd half sounded less like Tales and more like the Souls games
I knew this episode reminded me of something.

After reading the thread, is it safe to say the game is so bad that I'd be better off watching this show?

>>143692612
>Elaborate.
Someone commented about games with better gameplay than Symphonia, another anon posted a comment saying they forgot about Hearts R. I replied that it was too bad that Hearts was shit.

>animeonly fag
>know nothing about the franchise
>start saving fanart from the threads
>literally 75% of the art is homo
I feel like I'm sifting through shit to get to the few gold nuggets underneath. Edna is really cute, though. When is she showing up?

>>143680560
>berserk
Tales of Zestria story better than berserk? are you joking?

>>143692907
Next week
And there is nothing gay in SoreyxMikleo
>Edna cute
she is a cunt

>>143692456
>>143692642
Slay would be a weird name for basically gay Jesus

>>143693017
Edna is a cunt but nerds love her for it, and then complain of why girls love assholes and derail shoujo threads

>>143680560
The animation looks great and battles too but it looks generic as fuck

>>143692923


Better ost at least


https://youtu.be/fJrv6-zbnbE?t=1018


shitty link because i'm too lazy to rip the audio from this scene

>>143692612
>You'd think people would know the difference.
Anon, you do know that Hearts was originally for the DS and Hearts R is for the Vita, right? There isn't a cell phone version.

i hear from /v/ that Alisha will get kick from the party soon?

>>143693172
I don't think he doesn't know that. Saying that calling it mobile shit is retarded

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>Woops I missed one, teehee!

Also
>CG dragon

The episode was pretty good until the last couple minutes.

>>143693017
>And there is nothing gay in SoreyxMikleo
Mikleo is technically male so it's gay

>>143694587

I almost died when Sorey went super sayan in the OP.

Are they going to give more depth to Rose and Alisha's relationship in the anime? Because they made them "meet" earlier.

>>143680560
>decent enough fight scenes
yeah that strong female warriors fighting elf ninjas scene sure was decent

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>>143692907
The homo is the gold nugget. The homo end was the best thing about the game. If you're avoiding it now there's no reason to keep watching, because that's where the anime is headed.

>>143689820
Rose isn't the heroine. Even the creators have acknowledged Mikleo as Sorey's only potential love interest.

reminder normal people see malevolent as tornado, earthquake, tsunami, sandstorm or eruption. unless when the malevolent turn to highest form which is dragon.

>>143694834
Rose is Sorey's bro character, while Mikleo is Sorey's heroine.

>>143694839
reminder that normal people see what the actual fuck does your post even mean?

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>>143694720
They're going to go full double gay.

>>143695001
ESL-kun means that the evil spirits in Zesty are seen as natural disasters unless they're super bad and they turn into a dragon.

>>143694839
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>143694720
They were trying to do that in the DLC, but it mostly failed because of the bad blood that Baba had brought in with his faggorty.

>>143694720
Yes. See the OP and ED as well as the fact that Rose met Alisha before anyone.

>>143692907
Edna is a cunt and has the least reason to be in the cast in the game. Only loved by vocal lolifags. Maybe the anime will make her more than just puns and snark remarks.

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>>143695430
There is nothing wrong with bullying meebo.

>male MC's love interest in Zesteria is a guy
>female MC's love interest in Berseria is a shota
Is Bamco trying to turn us gay?

>>143684068
>>143689938
Well he was a nice guy, he made this video just for us italianfags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwT9Tbl2gjs

>>143695475
>your pic related
Is that why the nips keep giving him breasts?

The game's story was such a clusterfuck here's hoping ufotable salvages it into something palatable.

Is Velvet attacking Slay in the OP?

>>143695789
In Berseria it seems as though Shepards are the main villains.

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I like it so far. It's pretty enough for me :3

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>>143696153
The Basin and Lady Lake CG was fucking awful though the 2D sections are fine.

>>143682358
this, not sure insult or compliment

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>>143693172
>>143694442
>There isn't a cell phone version
There is
Hearts R was port to ios in japan only

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>>143680560
Well it really fits to the animated scenes, same studio duh.
This has potential, depending on how closely they'll follow the game. I really hope they'll keep Alisha as one of the mains characters and won't ditch her halfway through again instant drop if they do. They can also feel free to alter the story in any way because it can't be worse than all the shitty stuff that was going on with Rose in the game.
Can't say anything about the fights because everything is better than the game's garbage gameplay and at the very least I don't have to play it, just watch.

Can't wait for best girl to show up.

>>143696667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqoLBs6UfNQ

>>143696667
And? That doesn't change the fact that it's only a port and the DS and Vita versions existed first. There's an ios port of some Final Fantasy games but that doesn't make them all just mobile games since there's a pre-existing version beforehand.

>>143696909
Sorry I was just saying ;-;

>>143695554
if we are all gay, they will definetely get more sales

I dropped the game somewhere after the fire temple because I couldn't take it anymore.
Who was that other loli seraph? Simone or something but there isn't any information about her.

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>Ednafags getting cucked

>>143696669
I also hope that they take criticism to heart and do more with Sergei. Sergei and Alisha felt as though they should have joined you, but didn't because of the god forsaken armatization system.

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>>143680560
Why is the animation for this so good?

>>143697268

Because money. And UFO is not working on many shows at once.

I've played an hour of Zestria and it didnt seem bad at all. I've also played most of the Tales games, I don't get the hate, seems like a meme.

>>143697268
Are you blind the towns from the PS2 games look better than the CG in this.

>>143690292
>>143690892
And innocence. I prefer it to innocence R, the latter is a bit gimmicky.

>>143697523
>an hour
That's why

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>>143697523
It's mostly mad waifufags being bitter over the glorious homo ending. The game did have flaws, but nothing to warrant their behavior.

>>143697523
>Judging a JRPG with only an hour of playing.

Fucking please. The game quickly plummets in quality as soon as Alisha leaves.

>>143697656

>The game did have flaws


Zestiria will go down in the books as the Tales franchise's final fantasy 13

>>143694834
There was some promotion going on a while ago that showed the Heroes with the games Heroines and it was Sorey and Rose. There was also a guidebook or something that had pictures of all the heroes and heroines and Rose was with Sorey.

>Even the creators have acknowledged Mikleo as Sorey's only potential love interest.

Most important person/soulmate =/= love interest. Sorey has no love interest, the same way Yuri in Vesperia doesn't.Fuck off faggot.

>>143694878
>Rose
>A bro

lol

>>143691477
Maybe her butt hurts.

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>>143697523

I really hated the skill system and armatize mechanic. Getting new gear didn't feel rewarding at all and trying to set up a combo on a boss just felt like a headache.

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>>143697847
FF13 was many kinds of dumb but at least it was visually stimulating and a camera that worked.

>>143698012
You mean Sorey and Mikleo, the guidebook for Zestiria has Sorey and Mikleo on the cover.

>>143698034
Exactly the same as game animated OP Lailah because it's the same studio.

And they've ruined her cuteness in game by outright making her ignore your questions and act retarded only for the sake of GRAND REVEAL later on when it suited them.

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>>143698012
Reminder to ignore delusions like these.

>>143698252

Worse than /u/ fags.

>>143698286
Posters like you are worse than both, actually. Loosen your goggles.

>>143697847
The only real complain about FFXIII is the linearity until 30 hours in.

>>143697523
It's not. Most of the complaints about it are pretty subjective aside from a couple of things like the camera and dungeon design. It's far from my favourite but I don't think it's the complete disaster people in this thread are making it out to be.

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>>143698286
Homos already won. Just relax and enjoy the glory of true love between boys.

>>143698440
>mainstream Jap game pushing faggots

Keep dreaming senpai. Those are just delusions at this point.

>>143683104
That's not Legendia or Symphonia 2.

>>143698286
Dude not that anon, but Rose and Sorey literally laugh at the mere impliacation of the two of them being in a relationship. Besides that Rose Rose isn't on the Zestiria advertisement for the official that's Mikleo, and when they did a line up of Tales heroines which was an edit mind you, Alisha was also there.

That's some delusion you got there anon.

>>143698547
>it can't be gay because i don't like fags!
Literally insane. Just stop.

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Never Ever

>>143698627
>>143698352

I know this might be hard to process for you people. But maybe, you know, Sorey doesn't have any interest in a romantic relationship.

>>143698715
No mainstream studio will appeal to degenerates unless they want to fail.
It's just bromance with the other guy acting like a little bitch to lure pathetic faggots like yourself in.

>>143698012
Thad book had Meebo and Sorey on it.

>>143698811
I'm not even talking about romance, just the fact that other anon was objectively wrong.

>>143698286
At least SoreyxMikleo is based on their interaction during the entire game, side-material and official statements; even if they don't actually fuck for not losing the otaku yen. Meanwhile AlishaxRose is only supported by a failed DLC that everyone involved pretend it never happened

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Ignore delusional bigots, post cute homos.

>>143697185
>but didn't because of the god forsaken armatization system.
Seriously, I feel like all because of that, the gameplay fell apart.
Also not nearly enough solo artes.

>>143698356
Well Zestiria has towns, side quests, and the game doesn't end if the player character dies, so I feel pretty confident in saying it's better than FFXIII.

>>143699013
Yeah there was literally no reason not to use it unless you want to cripple yourself heavily.

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>>143698823
Is Owari no Seraph mainstream enough for you?

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Why did he decide to help her after trying to kill her?

>>143698823
Japan doesn't like gay people, but they do like gay characters. Tiger&Bunny is huge there, and it's officially 100% confirmed canonically gay.

>>143699013
From what I heard from the Nips the armitization system caused a lot of problems for the developers, there's a rumor that they had to rewrite the story to include it, and then also take out party members and change fighting styles.

Reminds me someone hacked the game and got rid of armitization.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoM5sMDQuik

>>143698930
To be fair they most likely intended to do more with it, but because of their fuck up with the game's presentation and marketing, it fell flat on it's face.

>>143699177
Enemy of my enemy, etc.

>>143699182
>Tiger&Bunny is huge there, and it's officially 100% confirmed canonically gay.
What? Fucking news to me. I thought they just did that whole "You can interpret it however you want" thing.

>>143699120
Again. Implied homolust. It is really strong there but they never really come out and admit that they'll suck each other off so if anyone complains they can deny it.

>>143699120
>Seraphfags have been shitting up the threads the entire time
How didn't I realize this sooner. Of course you tumblrcunts fled to Sorey/Mikleo with your 'canon' cancer. Even the average fujos aren't as bad as you guys. I feel sorry for Sorey/Mikleo now. They don't deserve this.

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>>143699276
They said that while the anime was airing, but later they went all out with fleshing out their relationship in the manga. It's completely endorsed now.

>>143699276
If you've been following the manga, the continuations for it, then you'll see, they left a lot less up to interpretation.

Nips are okay with fictional characters being gay but actual people are not okay.

>>143695239
Nah, that was because Rose was nothing but bitchy to Alisha in that story until she finally gave up and jumped on the "Rose is amazing, I'm such a terrible person for inconveniencing her by whining about my justifiable curiosity about what happened to my friend. I hope she can find it in her heart to forgive me" band wagon. Rita and Estelle is how you do you a friendship right.

>>143699105
It did get a bit retarded with some of the later bosses where even if they were strong against every element, weak against physical attacks, and cast seraphic artes all the time, it was still better to fight armatised.

>>143699455
>KEK
Leave newfag. I don't give a shit about Alisha. I care about delusional otakus and delusional fujos like you shitting up the thread with your cancer. Stop instigating the same 'le canon homos' shit every thread.

>>143699486
Basically. The anime already looks to be revamping the entirety of their relationship so I hope it's more equal and mutual than the shitfest that was homoerotic bullying in the DLC.

>>143683025
It was a sort of "episode 0". None of what was in this episode was in the game.

They are also more mature so I think they get more leeway but they don't want to corrupt the youth with gay characters in the same age group.

Other times when there's an explicitly gay character he's usually a grown man and a comedic relief.

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>>143699341
That's what Japan almost always does with their gay couples. Claiming that homos aren't homos because they're only implied is the height of delusion. The artistic intent is clear. You'd have to be dense to miss it or delusional to willfully ignore it.

>>143699648
>>143699182

>>143699589
>Stop instigating the same 'le canon homos' shit every thread.
Even to an outside viewer it's clear that the deniers are the instigators here. You fucks are so easily triggered by the mention of potentially gay characters that you can't help but derail threads with your shitposting. Do everyone a favor and take it to your tumblr.

>>143699486
If Baba had dialed back on his waifufagging it wouldn't have been so bad, but the fact that he did just made things worse, especially because they expected him to do so. Rose needed to be dialed down a lot, but Baba wasn't professional enough to let that happen.

It wouldn't have saved Rose all that much, because they're pissed at her for stealing Sorey's thunder, but it would have helped.

>>143699589
I still didn't get how they tried to play the jealousy card for Rose's behavior. Alisha's life fucking sucks compared to Rose's It's be because she makes a living gutting people because the game made it clear that everybody that Rose kills has to be killed and it's not bad because those people were bad or turning into monsters. It can't be that Alisha had a bond with Sorey when Sorey barely cared about Alisha and her even being near the guy was crippling him horribly and it can't be because she lives a life of privlage when we know that every single person in her kingdom doesn't give a damn about her, the nobles all hate her goody goody personality and the citizens despise her naive ideals as well. So what is it about this useless normal human girl who has no power whatsoever to use the spirits or be a helpful fighter in general is there to be jealous of?

Zesty really dropped the ball on their characters almost as badly as xillia 2 made out the xillia 1 cast to be complete selfish dicks to Ludger,Ellie and Julius.

These threads are doomed to be shit because of bickering and shitposting potential they have.

>>143699675
How does it feel watching shows knowing that the things you want are only implied and nobody will actually confirm them for you?
How does it feel always having a nagging thought in the back of your head that the author is just fucking with you because you take the bait so easily and can deny everything if he wants to.

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Explain.

>>143699941
Just wait til the Persona 5 anime hits in the fall. Then you know shitposting like no other. Persona 3 and 4 fans feel like the plot of 5 is making a mockery of them with it's whole "adults are shit" stance.

>>143699994
>How does it feel watching shows knowing that the things you want are only implied and nobody will actually confirm them for you?

Pretty good, actually.

>what is doujin
>what is fanart

>>143699994
Seems like homos would be feeling pretty good right now, seeing as how they keep winning.

>>143700023
Advertisement.

>>143699994
>How does it feel watching shows knowing that the things you want are only implied and nobody will actually confirm them for you?
That's the fate of every anime fan. Japan rarely confirms anything. Are you a crossboarder or something?

>>143699887
She's a princess raised on Muh Ideals by Maltran. She was raised to be screwed over.

It's especially bad cause she prevents a warmonger from dying in the story cause he helps run the country only for her DLC to point out after his death the council run by nobles was an outdated useless system that wasn't needed when he was alive. So she let a guy who helped cause the war live for no reason.

>>143699887
Rose is also surrounded who love her for who she is, her being jealous of Alisha just made her seem like a selfish cunt and a drama queen. If she was just bad in the DLC, then it would be forgivable, but she's a sociopath in the main game proper.

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>>143699648
>tfw comedic gay is best boy
Japs are just completely backwards from the west is all.

>>143699781
>triggered
>do everyone a favor and take it to your tumblr.
I don't live where you live, and I myself never denied any homo. I actually like it. But your being just as cancerous as the 'deniers' in this thread and it's not fucking helping anything. Sorey/Mikleo is not canon. It's implied and therefore debatable. It never will be romantically officially, so fuck off.

>>143699887
Did Rose ever say she was jealous? I thought she just said she never liker her because of her goody goody princess background, which like you said - makes no fucking sense. Alisha was by far the punching bag of the game for EVERYONE. Hell, it's only the anime that shows that she even had friends before Sorey. I was under the impression nobody but him even gave a shit.

>Zesty really dropped the ball on their characters
I think only Sorey gets some kind of arc about learning to mercy kill but then you have Mikleo who watches his mom die and doesn't say shit and everyone else who just.. doesn't grow.

The anime has alot to fix.

>>143700163
Alisha is starting to remind me alot of Melia from Xenoblade with how her story is nothing but getting shit flung at her. But at least Melia's better off she had a father and brother that loved her. I think Alisha's parents either hated her or they were killed shortly after she was born.

>>143700256
What could Meebo even say? He doesn't even know his mom and she doesn't know him or realize it's him before dying.

And his uncle murdered him for a petty reason.

>>143700145
There a difference between what shitty girl wins in a never ending harem LN/manga when they all clearly in love with MC and the entire sexuality of a character.
Nice corssboarder strawman though.

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>Having to hear that Fox laugh again

>>143700256
>it's only the anime that shows that she even had friends before Sorey

Watch it be confirmed later on in the show that those guys secretly hated her and the mission was really suppose to end in her death before all that other shit happened.

>>143700317
Yeah but she also had her family horribly murdered and was ignoredwhen she points out purple naked giantnwas clearly locked away for a good reason.

>>143700496
Of course. Lunarre was hired to do it.

>>143700256
The game never gives Mikleo or even Sorey for that matter, any real chance to sit down and let the moment sink in, which makes terrible because it stops the gamer from really being able to absorb what just happened.

The same thing happened about them finding out about Calmann, Sorey and Mikleo should have been allowed to show more emotion about what they just experienced, in more than just a skit. The only character who showed any real worry for them was Alisha when she heard about what happened.

>>143700256
>but then you have Mikleo who watches his mom die and doesn't say shit
In fairness, they kind of dealt with this earlier when they first got to Camlann. Sorey and Mikleo were born there, but it's not their home and they feel no real attachment to it. Mikleo intellectually knew Muse was his mother, but he didn't know her at all and never spent any time with her. Why would he give a shit about her dying?

I thought that was a refreshing change of pace from the usual "but my REAL family" narrative you get with adopted characters.

Also Edna definitely had character growth. She stopped being such a raging cunt and learned to accept that she couldn't save her brother.

>>143694790
helluva lot better than mah *CLANG* chop human girl in half

>this thread

Is this how it going to be every episode? And they didn't even show Sorey and Mikleo yet.

That and fapping to >>143700023

>>143700668
And they both get upset later when it would be emotionally appropriate to do so, so it's not like the writers just forgot about the concept.

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>>143700496
>Watch it be confirmed later on in the show that those guys secretly hated her
Shit, that's an actual possibility. But I don't think they'll go through with it. Anime Alisha is already emotionally stronger than the wimp that was game's Alisha.

>>143700650
>>143700378
> He doesn't even know his mom and she doesn't know him or realize it's him before dying.
That's the problem. I think Mikleo should've been written to have vague memories of his mother instead of being given away as an infant. It doesn't change much about Sorey/Mikleo's past either.

Or at the very least have Mikleo tell her who she is before she kills herself for seemingly no real reason.

And I hated how there wasn't even a SKIT about Sorey's and Mikleo's reactions to Camlann. It was lazy and it was awful.

>>143699177
Because he wants to kill her penrsonally

>>143700668
Even so, total apathy isn't the way to go. Especially since we know that Muse, didn't give up Mikleo willingly, and still loved her son.

A refereshing change of pace, was something like Gon admitting after finding his father that he ultimately just felt like an amazing relative. And not wanting to find out about his mother because she willingly and not under duress gave him up, and somebody else raised him.

Mikleo and Sorey's situation was nothing like that.

>>143700668
They even had more of a reaction to gramps death when they were forced to end his life in the final battle.

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>>143700831
Yes

>>143700526
>Father dies
>Friend says that you should try to get with that guy you like
>guy you like's actual love interest shows up
>guy and love interest share many a moment together and make no attempts to hide how thirsty they are for each other
>friend who told you to come with them to try and get that guy you like abandon's ship and talks to the love interest about how perfect she and guy you like are for each other.
>Brother dies
>Citizens you were the leader of get turned into horrible monsters you have to kill least they kill you
>Nobody but the furby hears the brothers last words

Being Melia was suffering. I don't know the scope of what Alisha went through but if it matches half of that I think somebody on the writing panel must have a torture fetish or something as big as Fatalpluse's.

>>143700831
>Sorey and Mikleo
since there's only one young girl in this show I can safetly assume that those two are unimportant grannys who wont change the threads.

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>>143700668
>Also Edna definitely had character growth. She stopped being such a raging cunt and learned to accept that she couldn't save her brother.
In a missable and optional sidequest completely unrelated to the story. And more like she was forced to accept it because Sorey had no way of helping him in the first place.

Another thing the anime needs to alter.

>>143700893
5 seconds of light tears isn't much. Doesn't help I couldn't even feel much for Gramp's death. It was cheap and we don't even see it happen. They just stab his hand and he's gone.

>>143700868
Then why did he just let her walk off after that?

>>143680560
b8 thread

>>143700945
oh wait what I thought I was in the /tod/ I mean Amaama to Inazuma thread. Nevermind

>>143700924
Furby was great, especially after seeing 99% of X'x furbys are Greedy Jews. It's shocking Sylvalum is where all the nice furbys live.

>>143700981
He enjoy the hunt and makes his victim suffer both mentally and physically before finally eating it.
That fox is literally more evil and crazy than the actual main antagonist

>>143701171
Yet he ends up saving her and never bothers to hunt her again after eating Mason until the DLC since he magically survived.

>>143700971
They never really gave you any time to get to know the guy so when he died, I didn't really care.

Since this show is split cours, I guess they'll have Alisha be relevant in the first cour and put her on a bus at the half point.

Would be cool if she comes back for the second cour, but I doubt it.

>>143701238
More time than Meebo's mom.

>>143700971
He'll stay dead unless Velvet gets involved.

>>143701237
One of the reason Zestiria is bad.
It's like they forgot about him and then "Oh fuck, what about Lunarre?" when the main game production ended.

>>143701262
Instant drop if they do it. I'm not an Alisha fag or anything, I just feel that the way they've made Rose join was even worse and much more forced.
I also felt cheated in general because they had raised all the fucking flags of setting her as the main character and I felt like they've wasted my time. Should've at least killed her off or something and make Sorey learn something from that but that would actually require some thought.

>>143701311
But it still wasn't much.

>>143700971
>And more like she was forced to accept it because Sorey had no way of helping him in the first place.
Well yeah, that's kind of the point. Sorey pulled his "We'll find a way somehow" shounen hero bullshit to make her join, but in the end there was no magical deus ex machina to save the day. She had to accept that sometimes life sucks and sometimes your brother turns into a dragon and you have to kill him to bring him peace.

I agree it shouldn't have been a sidequest though.

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>>143701386
Zestiria was a real mess. I hope they fix the plot.
Also if Mikleo isn't making tasty desserts after every single battle the adaptation has lost it's faithfulness.

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>>143701411
What I feel like they'll do with Alisha is make her and Rose 'share' the powers of the Squire, hence that their relationship is being played up so much earlier. That way Alisha is no longer detrimental to Sorey and she gets to stay and not be a useless human cunt.

However, it is still just as likely that they're showing Alisha alot in order to appease her fans ('give her enough shine') before they dump her off.

>>143701458
That's reality. I liked how giving a speech about why she was wrong broke Forton so much she was now a lifeless husk unale to be purified cause there's nothing left to cleanse as a result.

Then Rose goes and kill steals.

>>143698723
This scene actually exemplifies why I'm pissed off that you didn't keep Alisha and get Sergei as well. It makes sense for the both of them to join you, the Lord of Calamity is getting in the way of their own dreams of peace. Having that peace would mean less malevolence all around, therefore they join you and your cause, because their goals are related to your duty.

For Sorey they also give him more human companions to interact with, for the seraphim it's more humans for them to bounce off of. They could have even used to two of them to help Sorey and Mikleo further their own dream of humans and seraphim living together in harmony.

Reminder most shotas and lolis in the game ended up killed or with PTSD
Hope the anime won't change that, so far we are already at 1 loli killed.

>>143701568
>showing Alisha alot in order to appease her fans

Haven't they learned from the DLC that this doesn't really help?

I don't know about sharing powers with rose. Just as they've bullshited their way into making Rose on par with the shepherd in terms of fusing abilities just by saying she was near a seraph she didn't even know existed, they can make Alisha get powers because Sorey gave her some the same way he made her see Seraphim.

But yeah, probably won't happen though because that would require a lot of OC material trying to fit her in. As far as I'm concerned it'd better if the show hadn't followed the game except for the overall idea.

>>143701689
Meebo and Sorey have all the time in the world to do that []Since both are Seraphs at the end and Seraphs are biologically immortal. Same for Hellions.

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>>143701792
Well the story for Zestiria is shit, they can't really fix it unless they rework from literally the ground up, the only silver lining in the cloud is that they don't have things like gameplay to worry about.

>>143701824
What I'm saying is that it's something that the two of them should have worked for in the game itself.

>>143701751
Even the monstrous Hellions that were kids like Minotaur.

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>>143701937
>>143701824

>>143701967
I couldn't help but both wee myself watching this scene but also feel bad for princess having everyone she know just die

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>>143701824
Yeah but Alisha and Sergei and Rose are confirmed kill by the time Mikleo and Sorey reunite. So it's wasted potential.

>>143701792
Well, Alisha fans can no longer say they didn't see her alot if they still choose to bench her. She's getting entire episodes to herself before the main protags come in.

Would it still be a bad idea? Yes. But I feel like no matter what they do with Alisha, reviews will be mixed or bad. If they try to force her in with some new seraph potential (she couldn't see Symonne in the beginning so I feel like this is gone), or if they bench her in a more fluid, excusable fashion.

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>>143698811
Explain this.

>>143701967
I was expecting her to see her dead body or some shot but then they've made it even more funnier first by making her survive that devastation and second by instantly killing her for "drama"

>>143701689
Normies can't see Seraphs.

But Sergei's so good at swordsmanship he could probably slice away his inability to see them.

>>143702066
He told her he'll be banging Mikleo in 100 years.

>>143701792
>>143701568
>What I feel like they'll do with Alisha is make her and Rose 'share' the powers of the Squire, hence that their relationship is being played up so much earlier. That way Alisha is no longer detrimental to Sorey and she gets to stay and not be a useless human cunt.

That would take away Rose's uniqueness and piss off Baba. They won't do that. think of Alisha like Sakura, Taiga and those track and archery girls in UBW's or the other members of the God Eaters. She'll be here for about 3 or so more episodes then the plot will start and they'll toss her away because if she wasn't there in the game why bother putting her in the anime? It's sorta like the complete opposite of Persona 4 the golden anime where they shoehorned Marie into the concert, the snow trip, the beach trip and the final boss. As well as the Persona 3 movies where Aigis was shoehorned into several moments she wasn't apart of in the games. She's the only one besides Junpei who got her final persona in the movies, Even when they were fighting the final boss Trismagetsu,Messiah and Athena were the only evolved personas in the fight. This happens for better for worse for all game adaptions. such as in Neptunia P-KO and Pludia stole the entire screentime and in Blazblue Alter Memory Noel and Lambda had the only good scenes.

>>143702054
Rose being dead is a good thing. You'd rather she be a Seraph?

>>143702054
They could always power up Sorey enough to keep her as a squire for some more time and then have her become powerful enough so the drawbacks disappear.

>>143702054
>Yeah but Alisha and Sergei and Rose are confirmed kill
Good.

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>>143702092
Normies can see Seraphs

>>143702149
>She'll be here for about 3 or so more episodes
Assuming this will have 26 episodes and they pace it correctly, she should be there for about 7 of them. Plus another two later.

>>143702092
Creating a way around that would be the least of the story's problems.

Hell the whole, "making Alisha his squire hurts Sorey" bullshit, was just there to give an excuse for Rose to join the party anyway. Get rid of that excuse.

>>143702077
That was so mean,too. It's like the tornado dragon just went "Oops missed one" and doubled back as a final fuck you to Alisha personally.

>>143702149
>such as in Neptunia P-KO

I genuinely couldn't believe they made the drama worse in the anime.

>>143702149
Don't you know? Baba's no longer on the Zestiria project.

>>143702228
Normins are seraphs.

So are some cats and dogs.

Turtlez are Turtlez but humans can't see them.

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I want to marry and make love to Edna.

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>>143702149
>the complete opposite of Persona 4 the golden anime where they shoehorned Marie
Thank god if so. P4GA was cancerous because of the Marie shoehorning. If they did that with Alisha, I would drop entirely.

I'd say Alisha will last for around several episodes based on spoilers. This will cushion the blow when she has to leave again.

>>143702195
H-hey, Sergei was a good man.

>>143702180
>>143702309
See, this is why I like the double squire idea but I don't think they'll nerf Rose like that.

>>143702319
Maltran works for kittybeard afterall.

>>143702358
Anime need the Turtlez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBwg9ApkZ98

>>143702149
>That would take away Rose's uniqueness and piss off Baba.
Why would they care about that? I don't think Baba's the producer for the anime anyway.

Then been said, I agree they'll dump her after a while. Maybe 6 or 7 episode, since it's a two-cour, but that's about it.

>>143702149
Baba isn't in charge anymore.

>>143702393
If they want people to like Rose, then they very well do need to nerf her.

>>143692739
It's all the same shit

No really Motoi Sakuraba does them both

>>143702435
Damn I forgot how stiff and out of place the animation were.
Even the tense moments felt comedic because of that.

>>143702435
They deep voiced gangsters in english

>>143702435
The models in this game were so ugly, sometimes I have to sit back and cry.

>>143702355
>>143702472
He's not? Then maybe there is a chance to redeem the boring that was the game. Alisha doesn't have to join like Patty or Flynn did but maybe now the party won't treat her like she's Meg and Rose like she's god's gift them. The I wonder if the anime brought in miss time traveler to save the girls and fendora guy from the fox guy instead of them being killed off screen.

>>143702560
What were they thinking really.

>>143702560
https://youtu.be/4URehEz4r6Y?t=55s
English turtlez are way more endearing.

>>143702674
>Velvet travels through time to save the plot from ham-fisted melodrama
Best edgelord.

>>143702674
For the last time she's a Hellion and they are immortal like seraphs.

>>143702758
>shotas with barotone voices

Oh jesus

>>143702758
Were they literally trying to make them Ninja Turtles?
What the fuck?

>>143702801
We don't know what she is, and in Zestiria they said that they are more beings out there than just humans, serpahs, and hellions.

>>143702850
no it's a parody of Xillia 2.

>>143702066
I don't remember this.

>>143702801
Human hellions aren't necessarily immortal. If they were, tons of historical figures would have been immortal, which they obviously weren't since that wold raise enormous questions among the populace.

>>143702914
They are. They point out there was no body left behind for former shepherd Ashura or the Minotaur because they've been around for so long their original bodies rotted away to nothing. It's the same for animals that become Hellions. It's just that most Hellions die before they live that long.

Hellions kill and hate each other after all.

>>143702850
It's a parody of Xillia 2.
https://youtu.be/chYI11Tk19k?t=7m15s
This, and another scene I can't find are being replicated by the Turtlez.

>>143702871
Thatprobably means the Normins were originally a different race before they became Seraphs.

>>143703084
Except a ton of world leaders and historical figures are hellions, and they'd without exception have to be conveniently killed off. If it's something like their human bodies age normally and appear to die but their spiritual form keeps going, that would be fine, I guess.

>>143703294
That's exactly it. The body dies and the spirit lives on as a Hellion.

>>143702355
>>143702464
>>143702472
>Baba isn't involved with the Zestiria anime
>Alisha still suffers
WHY

>>143706238
Because she's best girl.

>>143706238
Because characters that exist for suffering can be well enjoyed, as long as the suffering is not off-screen because said character was discarded early.

>>143699177
Because Simone looked like the tastier seraphim snack.

>>143703495
If that were true then how would purification work?

>>143706923
>Because Simone looked like the tastier seraphim snack.
I thought he was talking about Alisha. A "I'm gonna eat that girl so I can't let you kill her" kinda thing.

>>143706979
Purification also works on the undead. There's a whole subplot about it.

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>fujoshits crying about m-muh homo
>pedob8s creaming themselves over Edna
>Rosefags and Aliciafags waging WWIII
>best girl gets ignored

>>143707075
Which one? Maltran's sisters?

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>>143707304
Best girl isn't getting ignored. Not at all.

>>143706238
It only matters where the suffering takes her. If this means she'll get a better role, the suffering is justified. If not, they're just fucking with fans again.

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>>143707304
I only wish she didn't have those fish fins on her uniform. She'd look a lot more elegant and mature like Elizabeth from King of Fighters. Waste of a character though. She was Legretta 2.0 but got demoted to barely a side character.

>>143707423
If that's the one where you fight the monsters in the ruined villages, yes.

>>143707567
Her plot was related to Alisha so if Alisha doesn't play a role then she has no purpose in the story.

>>143707628
Maltran exists to increase SUFFERING for Alisha but she can't even do that right when their relationship was hardly developed.

>>143680560
Literally everything is better than memeserk. With that said Zestiria was pretty good, based ufotable continues to break free of the type shit chains.

>>143707567

wasted fucking character design right here

>>143707698
It also could have been a plot that causes Alisha to change her world view and how she deals with people. In other words the suffering could have lead somewhere.

>>143707928
Read the novels.

>>143702913
Final boss, badass Sorey ditches Rose to go solo VS Heldalf, mutters something to her that the audience can't hear.

>>143708486
Ah yes I remember now. But there's no way he'd confess. It makes no sense.

>>143708587
Does anything else in the game?

>>143708486
He said, "No killstealing this time, bitch."

Are these games actually worth playing? I want to get familiar with the source material to be honest.

>>143708486
blah, blah, this is my fight.
blah, blah, you must live
thanks Rose

>>143708789
There's only one released game in this continuity. Most of the series is self-contained or only distantly connected.

>>143708789
This one's shit, but some other Tales aren't half bad.

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Has anyone watched the Symphonia OVAS? This is the same director who did those so I want to know what kind of quality to expect.

>>143708486
No one likes you Rose.

>>143686926
>even this season
Like what? Want to point me to any other show that's done a full 2 minute frame by frame scene so far?

>>143709421
But Rose is Sorey's hero. Sorey said so after Dezel's death I think

>>143708789
Play Symphonia, Abyss, Vesperia and Xillia and Xillia 2.
Don't bother with the others.

>>143709627
Narrative fellatio. The more reason everyone hates her.

>>143698034
>>143698250
Reminder that her original voice actor was a victim of the Japanese cold. Does anyone know who's voicing her this time around?

>>143709627
He lied.

>>143686926
>basic fucking limb movements
That's what >>143684309 is, is it? I like how you're calling me blind when you blatantly have some prejudice towards the current state of the studio of the game. This is the first time I've seen anything from either. The animation was objectively high quality. You're either willfully ignorant or straight up know nothing about animation if you think it's not.

>>143710020
In this series, Hisui 2.0 will be replaced by Sakura.

>>143710020
Sakura's seiyuu from Fate.

>>143710227
>>143710208
Best girl becomes worst girl just like that. Wow.

>>143709039
Entertaining fights, good music and fanservice. And I don't mean lewd shots.

all those homo reply
WTF?

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>>143711908
Gay game -> gay anime -> gay threads

>>143710227
>>143710208
I'm very okay with this.

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>See DGM and ToZ threads
BL fandom is strong this season.

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>>143711908
Have you not played the game or something?

>>143685587
Can't believe that people still think that a mediocre character is the reason the game is awful

>>143713580
You're right the game had way more problems than her.

>>143707582
That's Cardinal Forton's sister. They even turn into Medusa Type Hellions.

Rose a best, /a/. Never forget.

>>143709580
Mob Psycho 100

>>143710038
Hilarious

>>143716286
>h-hilarious

>>143689827
>Not really. She plays a very very small role.

The anime will fix that

Hell, this anime reason for existing was to fix up the story the game failed to convey

>>143694793
>The homo end was the best thing about the game.

Who the fuck allowed /y/ here?

>>143716286
Except Mob Psycho hasn't aired

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>>143716511
>complaining about homo in a thread for a homo anime

>>143716158
Baba you should spend your free time job hunting not shitposting on 4chan.

>>143692456
I'm thinking more Soleil. He is trying to bring light to the dark.

>>143716627
>lewd Sorey/Mikleo
Disgusting. They'd only hold hands.

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>>143717057
They'd do a lot more than that after Sorey wakes up with 700 year morning wood.

>>143717244
Sorey doesn't know how to use his dick for sexual. Mikleo would have to force his dick into him and he'd never do it.

>HS is ripping the funishit stream
What did they mean by this?

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>>143717244