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>Meanwhile in an alternate universe
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I love the aesthetic of the ED, and I don't want to stop wow woh wow woh-ing, but we're going to get a second ED next episode, aren't we?
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>>143537601
I'm completely fine with a new ed. I think it'll reflect a more serious turn that i think the second half is going to take. I'm also hungering for new songs, we haven't had one since 10

wowowow for life regardless though.
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>>143537601
There is no reason not to have a second ED. You can always go back and watch the old one if you want
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Just finished watching Macross Plus and Macross Zero.

Macross Plus felt like a weird experimental Macross mixed with ghost in the shell. Wasn't too fond of the story's pacing.
Macross Zero was a lot easier to swallow and had plot points that were relative to the macross story. The ending was really pretty even if I wasn't too happy with the implications behind it.
Both had great aesthetic and graphical appeal. (Both the art itself and the designs.) However Plus felt very lacking in the music department and character depth. Zero had some degrees of character depth, even if it wasn't much, and the one song that it did have was really pretty and made the final scene perfect for what it was trying to accomplish.
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Haya-sen please fuck my runepussy.
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>>143537601
>but we're going to get a second ED next episode

There's a chance it will be episode after next but the days of wowowow are coming to a close either way.
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>>143537769
>Macross Plus
>Wasn't too fond of the story's pacing.

Did you watch the OVA?
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>>143537769
>Plus felt very lacking in the music department
Whoa, the first time I read this. Most people love Voices and are fond of Sharon Apple's music.
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>>143537789
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>>143537847
Yeah. I suppose it wasn't so much the pacing as it was that I didn't like how it left several plot points up to assumption. Which, I can understand why they did because they are easily inferred, and the OVAs covered what they needed to in the time alloted. But I feel like it could have benefited a bit from an extra 5 or ten minutes to wrap things up.
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How long until Freyja loses horribly?
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>>143537899
Voices is nice, yeah. I didn't get too much of an impact from it though. The other music felt very ominous. Don't get me wrong. I think it fit the setting PERFECTLY. However, I supposed I got too used to the poppy music found in most of the other series. I'd like to add that I did like Plus, but I certainly enjoyed Zero more even if for shallow reasons. The implications and story within Plus was a lot more intricate than the rest of Macross which I certainly appreciated.
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Personally when it comes to Plus, I just hated all the characters. Like I just wished everybody would shut up and I wanted to get back to the VF fighting. I didn't even care about that shitty love triangle
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>>143537769
>>143537899
>>143538003
Music is one of the few parts of Plus that I'd never heard anyone criticize before this.
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>>143537978
>Mirage
You mean Miragefag right? Mirage's a good girl. Freyja's best girl though.
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Plus doesn't do much for the lore of Macross, other than perhaps answer the question why earthlings aren't using drones a whole lot. It, along with 7 that came out at around the same time do a lot of worldbuilding though. It's the first show to establish earth having colonized other planets, 7 is the frst to really go with the immigration fleet thing. The expanding world of the Macross setting is one the things I like the most about the franchise, and why I'm so completely bored with II.

I don't get the complaint about the music though, it's Yoko Kanno being Yoko Kanno, and the music here isn't really meant to sell cd's as much as to be tools for the show. The songs are largely meant to be kinda alien and weirdly futuristic. And since it's Kanno, its pretty well made to boot.
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>>143538003
It being ominous is kinda the point, since the idol is the last big bad in the show.
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Freyja is the best girl of the season, and I don't even want to dick her that much. I'm a little unsure what this feeling is.
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When will Walkure sing frontier's song. DYRL and Kyunkyun are great but I want something different.
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>>143537507
I wonder which one of them moved their desks together
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>>143538243
>and the music here isn't really meant to sell cd's as much as to be tools for the show

For a work of its size Plus had a pretty respectable number of CD releases (four I think.)

In any case Kanno can do work meant to move CDs well enough too, she did composition (and often lyrics) on the vocal tracks for Frontier in addition to the BGM.
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>>143538375
Freyja's younger so they're in the different class.
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>>143538338
It means she's your waifu

>>143538341
They haven't sang Kyunkyun yet either. The only legacy song has been REMEMBER 16
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>>143537507
>>143538375
>Mirage is class rep
>Delta members are student council
>Ernest is principle

What are the other Walkures though?
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>>143538243
>>143538155
I found the music VERY atmospheric. "Lacking" was a bad choice of words on my part honestly. The great music didn't mainly come from pop songs that litter the other Macross shows, but rather the background music. Its nothing like I expected. Like I said, the eerie atmosphere really helped the thematic tones of the OVAs. The concert parts seemed much more eerie than anything, and I found myself more engrossed with the visuals in it than the actual music. The visuals may have overshadowed my thoughts on the music I suppose.
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>>143538454
Choir club. Or Delta is disciplinary committee, Walkure is Student Council.
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>>143538454
Cheerleaders.
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>>143538375
>>143538415
Mirage is a year older than Hayate. Does this mean she's repeating a year because she's dumb as fuck?
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>>143538454
Cheer squad or school idols. And of course Freyja wants to join
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>>143538454

Mikumo gives the entire football team blowjobs under the bleachers.

Kaname is trying to get into the pants of a mature teacher.

Makina and Reina are in woodshop, and Makina likes to gives boys service while they work.
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>>143538540
Probably enrolled in her first year of school late for some reason or another. Has an inferiority complex about it.
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>>143538429
>Remember 16 on Messer's death
AHAHAHAHA
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>>143538243
>The expanding world of the Macross setting is one the things I like the most about the franchise
Agree. And one of the reasons why I'm enjoying Delta so much is because I feel like it's using all that lore and worldbuilding to its full extent while expanding it at the same time.
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>>143538375
More.
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>>143538647
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>>143538454
How about Windemere knight?
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>>143538689
MORE.
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>>143538733
Rival high school that keeps hijacking the PA system.
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PREVIEW FUCKING WHEN
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>>143538790
So Freyja changed the school because she want to join Walkure.
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>>143538243
Talking about the worldbuilding makes me think that I kind of agree with Kawamori from that one interview where he was talking about the idea of Macross series without the full set of three main elements. I certainly wouldn't mind a Macross series that was entirely without battles and was just focused on a story within the world (and probably featuring a love triangle and music,) or music + battles with no love, or love blooming on the battlefield without music.
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>>143538817
>without battles
So Macross the Musical or Macross the Ride?
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>>143538808
Chaos High had a famous choir club and Freyja wanted to join a similar club.
However Windmere High relocated the budget of the choir club to the basketball club effectively shutting it down so Freyja transferred schools.
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This is a mechanic.
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>>143538845
Don't know much about the content of those.

In the Forbes interview Kawamori was saying that every time he goes to make a new Macross series he tries to get the sponsors to sign off on giving him the creative freedom to drop at least one of the three "main elements" of Macross but they never agree to it (using the love triangle as an example, which a lot of people have taken to mean he specifically wanted to drop that for Delta.)

In any case I just think that Macross is enough of a well fleshed out sci-fi setting that you could do plenty of interesting stories entirely without military conflict having to be involved. Then again it'll probably never happen because toy sales.
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>>143538915
Hubba hubba.
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>>143538737
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>>143538945

She needs her oil checked.
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>>143538954
Every time she smiles it feels like a death flag.
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>>143538879
The captain of the basketball team's kid brother shows up at games and pep rallies, though.
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>>143538927
Macross the Ride is about some kind of civilian competition (race?) set on frontier a year or so before frontier. It features a ton of different FV's in very flamboyant colors and a large cast of pilots. LN series of 12 volumes i think?
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I want to Hayate to fuck my rune so hard.
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>>143539128
t.Frefre
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Why
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>>143539008
Have you seen how posh Windemere high is? They probably have an elementary school as well.
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>>143539266
Cute.
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>>143539266
Nips ship Freyja with everyone.
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>>143539266
Keith should be with Kaname, not Freyja.
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>>143539519
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>>143539519
You want him to die this much?
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Best girl: Sheryl
Best boy: Hayate
Best VF: 19

I think we're all in agreement, right?
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>>143539616
>Best VF: 19
For mass produced one, yes. But for specialized custom, VF-25 Ozma custom still my favorite.
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for the school theme
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tribute to the 13ep. outfits
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>>143539266
Freyja is like the fanart bicycle for shipping
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>>143539868
Hew lewd Kaname-san!
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>>143540204
She is.
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Mmf
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>>143537601
>aesthetic of the ED
It's Freyja's synesthesia.
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>>143539616
Only on best boy
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>>143539616
My favorite VF is the VF-4 actually followed by the Durandal
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ICHIDO DAKE NO KOI NARA
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>>143540707
I'm 50/50 on seeing a civilian one of those soon. Or was the info/rumor on the vf-4 delta connection ever laid bare?
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>>143540809
It's still a rumor so far but it was listed somewhere apparently we just haven't seen it

>I'm 50/50 on seeing a civilian one of those soon.
Flashback 2012 was like 50 years ago in verse so it's beyond old hat now
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>>143538954
What a precious hoina...
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>>143539868
>Messer still shows up in Kaname-related fanart.
These fans will feel very sad when Arad/Kaname really begins.
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>>143540951
So is the VF-1 and it got fanservice. I'm saying the same can happen for a vf-4. But me even thinking this is based solely on there being info (wether true or not) that there'd be a vf-4 delta connection. If that means actually showing up in the show, it'd 99% be an unarmed civilian craft, or maybe an antique in the dome. I don't expect it to see any serious action if it at all.
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WINDNIGGER GENOCIDE SOON
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>>143541046
All of Kaname's fanart is with Messer.
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>>143541046
>Arad/Kaname
You mean Kaname/Hayate
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Please tell me someone has leaked the Walkure single already.
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>>143541383
Welcome to 5 days ago.
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>>143541046
>implying it's going to happen
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>>143541414
What? Give me a link, mate, I'm sauced, I'm in no fit state to search this on my own.
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>>143541383
How late are you?
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>>143541414
>>143541446
Wait, I found it. Fucking sick.
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>>143541446
Search it yourself, faggot.
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>>143540276
Mikumo kind of feels like she should have been the alpha dyke in some mediocre yuri show.
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>>143541788
I really miss those training outfits. They were unnaturally sexual
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>>143541788
She kinda is in this show.
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>>143542078
She's alpha for sure, but despite the fan art there's not really anything to suggest she's a dyke. One can dream, though.
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>>143542185
She held hands with Frayfray last episode. That's super gay.
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>>143542257
>intertwined fingers
I'm surprised they're allowed to show this filth on TV.
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>>143538979
>making a character with already large breasts have cow tits

It's shit everytime.
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REMOVE ALL WINDNIGGERS
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Whoever was Delta 2 back there, thanks for saving my ass.

t. BASARA
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Word preview is out.
http://macross.jp/delta/story/

宇宙艦にトラブル発生。このままでは、電力も酸素もじきに供給が止まってしまう。エネルギー回路の爆発に巻き込まれて二人きりになってしまったハヤテとミラージュは、問題が起きたブロックの修理に向かうのだが――

脚本:根元歳三
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>>143542428
>Hayate and Mirage episode
Fuck this, I want to see what Windermere is up to now that they have won the war.
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>>143542428
Okay people, Hayate and Mirage get stuck together.
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>>143542428
>>143542428
MIRAGE WIN CONFIRMED
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>>143542372
BOMB THEM INTO THE STONE AGE
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>>143542591
How?
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>>143542566
>>143542591
fuck off delusional miragefags
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>>143542428
Oxygen is ending. Hayate and Mirage are caught in the explosion of engine or something like this and are stuck alone in the ship.

The ship is in need of repairing.
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>>143542676
>>143542669
"二人きりになってしまったハヤテとミラージュ"
They get stuck together in one block
That's a winner's only privilege
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>>143542689
Just like Hikaru and Minmei
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>>143542727
Like what happened with Minmay, right?
;´)
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>>143542689
>>143542771

I hope there's a space tuna.
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>>143542689
Well, its over Miragefriends. It was fun. Maybe we'll pick a girl that wins in 10 years when the next Macross comes out.
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>>143542727
>Minmay
>Ranka
>Emilia
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>>143537601
Cant stop listening to WOWOWOW song
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like Hikaru and Minmei, Mirage just needs to sing that dam song "My pilot is an imaginery boyfriend"
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>>143542836
You know, Minmay may be shit, but I thought their little date when they were stuck together was sweet.
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>>143542428
>>143542689
MIRAGEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>143539616
>>143539697
If prefer the full-wing design of the YF-19 and the VF-19A.
Also, black and gold livery is hot.
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>>143543214
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>>143542428
FREYJA BTFO

AND FREYJASHITTERS CLAIM SHE'LL WIN

TRULY MISA 2.0
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>>143542896
>>143542819
outlier
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>>143543265
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>>143543301
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>>143543278
>Stage one: denial
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>>143538341
Mikumo is Sheryl's black bunny alte ego, while Freyja is Sheryls white bunny alter ego.
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>>143542428
This is great! At last Mirage's victory has begun!
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>>143542689
>It's an SDF episode 4 episode

Welp, Mirage lost
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MikumoxHeinz /ss/ doujins when
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>>143543190
>>143543278
People still don't understand that Kawamori is fucking with everyone.
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>>143542727
>That's a winner's only privilege
You mean the opposite right?

>>143542896
Mylene too, when she and Basara got stuck in the freezing area on the beach episode
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>>143543482
Clearly his self-insert is going to be the real winner.
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>>143543482
You wish, he has to comply with his sponsors overlords
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>>143541788
She is autisticly aloof like the Strawberry panic bitch.
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>>143542965
>Minmay may be shit
t. Hikaru
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Well shoot, I was thinking "Macross isn't Sunrise where they do the trapped on an island" thing but it does have a history of "trapped in the ship". I can't believe I didn't even think of this
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>>143543555
That doesn't stop him from fucking with the fans though because he is
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>>143543638
holly fuck you are really desperate if you think that a hug means something
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>>143543638
>Hayate has smushed his face against Mirage's tits
fucking Hayate
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>>143543671
In Hayate's case, no, he's just giving a thank you hug to a buddy.

For the audience though, that's obvious bait in case you weren't here on Sunday when there were scores of MIRAGE FUCKING WINNING NO WAIT NOW IT'S FREYJA
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So this is going to end like how SDF's episode ended or like how they got caught in DYRL?

>>143542965
The early episodes was back when Minmay was cute
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>>143543716
>Hmmm, Meltrandi tiddies~
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>>143543721
>mfw I saw the thread
miragefags are pathetic
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>>143542689
This is actually an interesting reversal because usually when they do this, it is the protagonist trapped with the singer but it's with the other girl this time. Unfortunately, at the same time, I can't help but think "oh fuck loser flag"
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>Mirage starts winning
>Frejya jumps off a ship to get Hayate's attention back
This is considered mental abuse and is punishable by law in most countries.
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>>143543671
>I-It m-means n-nothing
>Y-you're j-jjust delusional!

Freyjafags on damage control and suicide watch.
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>>143543750
Even now Minmay does things to me the when the other idols don't phase me.
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>>143543582
I haven't finished finished SDF but so far, she is kind of a selfish bitch (that, or just unaware of Hikaru's feelings?). That doesn't mean I'm not enjoying her moments with Hikaru, Misa is kind of boring.
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>>143543802
Actually in Hayate's case, with him being completely dense on the female front, by all accounts it really doesn't

>>143543789
Well it's one of the best moments in the show so fuck it
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>>143543789
>>143543802
She is going to get trapped with Hayate on a ship, you know who does that? girls who lose
Now stop ignoring reality please
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>>143543802
so if chuck saves him instead and he hugs chuck, he's in the hayatebowl too?
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>>143543838
But Minmay is literally the second worst.

Worst is Mylene
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>>143543923
Well, Chuck looks pretty cuddly to be fair.
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>>143543923
According to miragefags, yes he is
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I hope we get a glimpse of what the windermerians are doing. I want to see a buttdevastated Keith.
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>>143544072
I'm wondering if Keith won't be injured and out of action for a few episodes. His plane got shot right in the cockpit.
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>no Wings game
Time to fix that
http://wings.io/#1w4c
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>>143544192
He obviously isn't injured, but his plane is out of action.
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>>143544072
I'm sure we will. The screentime will be split between trapped shenanigans and Windermere stuff

>>143544285
Time for an upgrade
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>>143542428
gg Mirage.

;_;
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I think the more important thing than shipping is that Mirage is finally getting a focus episode
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>>143544192
It could happen, that would give time for Roid to take charge before Keith can object to anything.
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>>143542428
>Both are at wits end
>Mirage starts singing

KYUN
Y
U
N
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>>143544624
>Mirage
>sing

Sure thing delusional Freyjafag.
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>tfw episode 15's title is actually about Mirage separated from main group
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>>143544533
I wouldn't surprise if they would end up talking about Freyja during that focus.
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>>143544642
Why wouldn't she? Her family loves singing.
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>>143544658
Mirage decides to become an instructor in Aramis ... (the place where Messer didn't go).
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>>143543465
Hikaru and Misa got lost in the ship together too.
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>>143544197
Let's go baby!
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>>143543927
>implyinhg
Mylene was okay when she wasn't acting like a bitch tsundere to Basara, her scenes with Gamlin were sweet. Minmay was 100% shit.
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>>143544658
>>143544722
>mirage is so irrelevant that leaves the series and nothing changes
poetry
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>>143544197
Missairu nante kudaranee! Ore no uta o kike!
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>>143544197
>empty server
LET'S GO!
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>>143544767
After the one with Hikaru and Minmay
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They were happy once
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>>143546929
NUNS genocide when.
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>>143546929
Morris probably died during the war, Keith fought himself against NUNS despite being so young and Bogue and other kids were treated like shit by enemy soldiers under the guise that they are stronger than normal humans and will become future soldiers and that's why they hate humans so much. I don't know if Delta will have the balls to go that far.
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>>143546999
Can't wait for the finale when the NUNS are revealed to be working with Epsilon try to take the Protoculture tech and the Windies and Delta have to team up
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>>143544679
We haven't seen any indication that Mirage even likes singing let alone knows any songs
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>>143546999
NUNS and Windfag genocide when?
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>>143547419
Runs in the blood.
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>>143547448
Like the piloting but she is shit at it
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>>143542428
Did anyone even try to open the link? There is no preview for episode 14: http://macross.jp/delta/story/.

Is this next level shitposting from miragefaggots who try really hard to pretend their character is relevant?
Also the short preview at the end of ep13 clearly showed Freyja drifting in zero gravity. It will be another Freyja episode.
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>>143546929
Yes, they were happy when they were under NUN control. And look what happened with them after they got their independence.
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>>143547627
It was definitely there.
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>>143547627
Then they must have taken the link down because I saw it with my own eyes. You can check twitter if you doubt it.
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>>143547627
>tries to make their character relevant
>it gets a massive loser flag

huh
and yes I checked and there is no preview yet
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>>143547627
There was a textual preview for Ep 14, google translate said something like this:
Elysion is banged up and they are working on repairing power circuits throughout the ship under pressure, as air cycle system is out.
Hayate and Mirage end up lost in the ship when a power circuit near them explodes.
There is something else about repair module.
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>>143547890
RIP mirage
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>>143547820
They took it down, check other sites:

http://macross-matome.net/delta-imp/5418/
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>>143547627
the preview WAS there. No images, but the text was.
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>>143547890
>There was a textual preview for Ep 14
There's no preview for ep14 on the site.
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>even the VF gets more images than Mirage

And there is people who think that she is somehow relevant
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Just finished watching 26 episodes of SDF. Is there any point in watching the last 10 episodes? It feels like filler shit.
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>>143547890
>宇宙艦にトラブル発生。このままでは、電力も酸素もじきに供給が止まってしまう。エネルギー回路の爆発に巻き込まれて二人きりになってしまったハヤテとミラージュは、問題が起きたブロックの修理に向かうのだが――

>Trouble has broken out on the space ship. At this rate the supply for power and oxygene will run out. Hayate and Mirage, who because of an explosion in an energy circuits, ended up alone together head towards fixing the affected block, however--
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>>143548028
Maybe they accidentally put preview for the wrong episode?

>it was actually preview for episode 16, Hesitant Birthday
>it's Freyja's birthday, but Hayate spends it with Mirage
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>>143547959
>There was
>was

>>143548024
It's worth it for the Zentradi trying to adapt to a peaceful life.
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>>143548132
Nice try miragefag
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>>143544197
>tfw AXIA was playing on the background when this happen
I'm sorry Messer, I hope you're happy being a jellyfish.
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Jev pls go.
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Hello?
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>>143540707
>followed by the Durandal
At least one person with decent taste in this thread.

How come Chaos uses inferior fighters compared to SMS 8 years ago?
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>>143548563
Because they bought the F-35 II's of the Macross Universe
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>>143548563
Isn't Durandal VF-29? Chaos uses VF-31.
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>>143548770
That's the point. 8 years ago SMS used better planes than Chaos now.
Now wonder Ragna got BTFO by windies. Next time they need to hire better PMC.
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>>143548837
>Next time they need to hire better PMC.
Right. Watch SMS get mind controlled by Var as they don't have much defense against it. Even if they hire Sheryl and Ranka it wouldn't be enough.
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>>143548563
The YF-29 Durandal is a fucking prototype fighter and is specifically designed to kill Vajra. The VF-31 Siegfried is a mass production of the YF-30 Cronos and Delta platoon's is designed more to support Walkure.
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>>143548563
This>>143549379
The Durandal was created as a last resort weapon, it's entire purpose is literally to commit genocide.
I mean just look at your pic, the thing is freaking loaded, I mean you could probably destroy a few Macross class ships solo with that thing.
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>>143549379
If they have very specific goal to support Walkure then shouldn't they use custom fighters specifically build for that instead of mass produced ones?

>>143549617
>it's entire purpose is literally to commit genocide.
Hm, I know one snowy planet where this fighter would be extremely useful.
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Is Mikumo even human ?
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>>143548132
No we saw the gravity system out in the preview at the end of episode 13, so that's definitely episode 14.
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I want to tease Freyja about her rune.
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>>143549835
She's a shinpi.
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>>143548563
>>143549379
The Siegfried variations of the VF-31 are Walkure support units and have space dedicated to things like carrying fold wave amplifiers. They are also biased towards close range weaponry on the idea that if possible they don't want to kill pilots affected by var.

The VF-31 A & B Kairos used by Alpha, Beta, and Gamma squads is the model that's in testing for military adoption and is more heavily armed with a more conventional weapon set. That's why the variants have different names.
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>>143549751
>If they have very specific goal to support Walkure then shouldn't they use custom fighters specifically build for that instead of mass produced ones?

Siegfrieds are custom variants of the VF-31 Kairos. The Kairos is the Chaos equivalent of SMS's VF-25 in Frontier.
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>>143549835
no, she is a social construction
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Uncertain Cosmic Movement > Jiritick Beginner > Koi Halation the War > Run pika etc. > Ikenai Borderline > AXIA > Walkure Attack > NEO STREAM > Ichido dake no koi nara > Bokura no Senjo > Giraffe Blues
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>>143550561
No
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>>143546929
artist's twitter?
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>>143550561
That's some mighty shit taste you've got there.
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>>143550651
https://twitter.com/fujiazuki/
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>>143550808
Thanks
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>>143548014
Well you can't sell Mirage's unlike VFs
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>>143548024
>Is there any point in watching the last 10 episodes? It feels like filler shit.
The stuff with Zentraedi trying to get real lives and fucking things up is interesting. The extended love triangle drama is absolute garbage
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>>143550561
I'm getting sick of people putting Bokura no Senjou that low
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>>143549751
Okay so first of all, with your logic, there should be VF-4 Lightning's flying all around the place in Macross 7 and VF-17 and 19's flying around in Frontier because those were the top of the line back during their previous shows. That's not how this works

Second, Durandal doesn't have the Fold Quartz placed inside it the same way Siefried does. It also is made to kill 100% when Chaos is more about defense

And third Durandal is 100% top of the line shit. It's not like we've ever seen more than one ever. You might as well ask "Well isn't everybody using Lucifer's? Those are old too"
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>>143548024
The original final episode is 27 before they extended it to 36.
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>>143548563
What are you doing Akira, you are a Yamato not a Macross.
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>>143551572
Dem yamato's
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>>143547959
>was
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7258m-6YXhkJ:macross.jp/delta/story/+&cd=1
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What is the worst looking VF?
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>>143551261
>Durandal doesn't have the Fold Quartz placed inside it the same way Siefried does
And what's exactly the difference? Alto got buffed in the end of the movies even with default 2 fold quartzes behind the cockpit. And it's not like they are huge you probably can't install another one inside with some modification.

>It also is made to kill 100% when Chaos is more about defense
Attack is the best defence. Switch to battroid mode, launch every single missile from every single pod and then if something is still moving finish it with quantum riffle. They wouldn't even need Walkure in the first place with that strategy.
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>>143548014
By that standard the VF has more pictures than Freyja (since you're clearly not counting the group shots she's in, as they all also have Mirage and at least one VF)

So what you're saying Makina is the real main character.
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>>143551680
Probably the vf 14 vampire or something
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>>143548837
>8 years ago SMS used better planes than Chaos now
Huh? VF-31 is newer than 29, right?
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>>143551747
29 is a prototype shock full with super weapons, extra engines. VF-31 Siegfried is kind of a policing unit. VAR containment
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>>143551694
>And what's exactly the difference?
One is made to deliver Fold waves by design, which is suitable for a group that protects Walkure the other is not

>Switch to battroid mode, launch every single missile from every single pod and then if something is still moving finish it with quantum riffle.
That kind of technique works on Vajra, not the Knights. Especially in Macross where missles are only there so it can look cool when people dodge them

Hell the only time we saw Knights die in the last episode was from a nuke underneath them
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>>143539266
Because Freyja's harem. She already imprinted on him, Hayate and Heinz. Sadly Gramia died, so no ojiisan route. ;_;
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>>143542727
But it's what happens to Minmay AND Ranka.
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>>143552214
>Hayate and Heinz
No. Heinz is for foursome with Mikumo Kaname and Makina
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>>143543786
Why unfortunately? Mirage has no chemistry with Hayate.

I like her a lot, but I don't see anything really romantic between them. While Freyja and Hayate have chemistry.
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>>143543716
I don't think he perceives Mirage as a woman.

>>143543584
Loser does.
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>>143544663
>Hayate and Mirage about to talk about something else
>Freyja's rune beams melts the walls and frees them
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>>143552214
>no ojisan route
There's always Herman.
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>>143547433
Winfags were cute, though. We just want them to return to be cute shotas.
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>>143552214
Hayate: true end route
Keith: Kuudere route
Twins: incest route/threesome route
Mikumo: yuri route
Heinz: shota route
Gramia/Herman: ojiisan route
Bogue: tsundere/yandere route
Roid: manipulative "bastard" route
Second Son: unlocked childhood friend route

Kassim is married and he's not cute enough.
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>>143552379
Well they have friendship chemistry. But I agree that Freyja and Hayate have completely natural chemistry. I say unfortunately because "trapped in the ship" is generally a loser flag
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>>143552677
Just like in my otome games.
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>>143552677
No big brother route?
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>>143553827
Keith would count as that. From what I saw on twitter Hayate would be the neighborhood oniichan she wuold have known since she was a kid, Keith the aloof big brother type and Bogue the annoying classmate.
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>>143551703
Nice delusion fag, but Mirage is irrelevant as fuck
better luck on the next Macross
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Is Mirage on any of these toys even?
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>>143554164
No, why should she be? She is not a main character nor an idol
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>>143554164
once her plane gets released
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>>143554271
AKA never
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>>143554164
>>143554229
>>143554271
>>143554323
Please do not bully Mirage!
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>>143554106
3shinpi5u
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>>143554474
The show is already doing that

I want to touch those ears and lick those armpits
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>>143541110
Can't come soon enough, brother.
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>>143537769
>However Plus felt very lacking in the music

Give this bitch some of Info High
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>>143537601
In frontier the OP & ED were delayed one or two chapters
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>>143554474
I'm sorry but I have a compelling need to bully all Zents no matter what the series

Especially Mylene
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>>143537769
>Zero have better music than plus

Nope. Zero have a really bored- normal music in Macross ever
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>>143554703
Let's hope so
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>>143538341
Soon, in macross frontier we only have winks to M7 and kyuuunn kyyuunn until the end of the series when gave us DYRL
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>>143538915
It hurts to know that she is on yuri shit
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>>143554106
She IS smiling. It's not her fault you cannot understand her smile.
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So I'm thinking the next Macross series would logically be tactical idol unit vs. enemy idol unit (but not too many, like 3 for each side because triangles). Like after the events of Delta as well as having seen records of 7, the enemy aliens think "we can do pop music too, not just the Earthlings". Main love triangle would be between the leaders of each respective group falling for the young UN Spacy pilot with the third wheel being an antagonist pilot ace on the enemy side.

With this they could actually create competing fanbases for the music as well as on a love triangle. The good girls would sing the happy, peppy pop and the enemy sings the dark, seductive sexual pop
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>>143555020
Man a part of me wishes those auditions had been a full episode so we could get shenanigans like this but the "not muh" shitposting would have been unreal so I'm fine with the way it played out
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>>143549835
>posting the shooped version
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>>143555020
Reaction image: GET.
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>>143543214
dekurrrruuuchhhaaaaaa
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>>143552195
Going by the VF-31J PDF from the official website it uses the same Fold Wave System as the YF-29 Durandal not the Fold Dimensional Resonance System of the YF-30 which had more Fold Quartz in it scavenged from ruins and Dyaus Guardians, specifically designed to break Fold Fault phenomena of Ouroboros as well as boost Song Energy.

Since one Fold Quartz is government regulated, two big chunks of it is damn expensive, and three the Fold Dimensional Resonance System is probably proprietary technology of SMS Chaos Works had to make due with the cheaper available system from Surya Aerospace. Surya Aerospace is a joint venture of Shinsei Industries, LAI and Hiotori Aerospace Industries.
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>>143554761
Lion wasn't used until episode 17
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>>143555020
wish someone would post scans of that chapter already. I guess the people who got it don't feel it changes all that much from the anime
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>>143555340
>Babby Heinz
Adorable.
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>>143537769
I'd agree that music isn't so much of a thing in Plus, not as much as the triangle or muh valkyries, anyway.

But anything has better music than Zero.
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>>143555402
i want to grab babby heinz' ass and hurl it
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>>143555505
No.
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>>143555340
Honestly I'm just surprised the Knights are getting fanart at all right now
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>>143555505
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>>143555621
Well, earlier today I found a tweet in Japanese that said something like that:
>Everyone right after Messer's death: "damn those Aerial Knights"
>Everyone now: "Shota Keith and Bogue are the beeeeeest~ Keith mourning for Messer the most is the beeeeest~"

And actually everyone has been going gaga over their manga and they are getting more fanart which I guess is good news for Satelight since they are marketing them and we all know understanding is coming.
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>>143555760
>"Shota Keith and Bogue are the beeeeeest~ Keith mourning for Messer the most is the beeeeest~"
Well they're not wrong
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOmwtAXVI00
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>>143550561
Based off this list it seems you prefer the more extreme pop sounding idol music, rather than the upbeat and powerful sounding songs.

I guess this is why the music choice on the album is so diverse. They wanted to make sure Walkure had music for everyone's taste. All they need on the next album is a rock and rap song.
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>>143556973
>rap song
No, please. Let's avoid kpop's problem.

Two weeks ago in the radio show Reina's VA and Minoringo said we have yet to hear their favourite songs.
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>>143554106
Minori stated on the radio show that JUNNA is normally a typical Junior High student who is cute and clumsy. However once it's time to sing, her personality takes a drastic switch and she becomes serious.
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>>143556963
This song sounds comfy as fuck,I'm getting some 90s nostalgia and I haven't even seen it.
I need to get around to 7
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>>143555020
Why isn't scan anon scanning these? ;_;
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>>143555020
Awe. Those other three girls would have been cute alternatives to Freyja.
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>>143557465
Nope, even in that line-up, Freyja is the one that's the standout.
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>>143557465
But what about the Rune Pika Beam?
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>>143555340
Who ever is behind the marketing in Delta is doing a great job. Everything kinda feels weird though, it like everything is a domino effect. It's like everything was planned way too perfectly, with the intent that it would be successful.

I wouldn't be surprised that the Walkure Attack album was released intentionally. And they have a surprise for us when it actually drops.

Did we ever see this article of JUNNA?
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>>143557749
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>>143557994
I wanna go to the movies with Minorin and drink a milkshake afterwards at Pop's soda place!
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>>143557346
Is JUNNA the youngest in the group?
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>>143558192
yes. She's 15. She was 14 when they recorded ikenai borderline.
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>>143558192
Yup. JUNNA just turned 15, while the rest are all above 18.
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>>143558509
>JUNNA is 15
I guess i'm a pedo now.
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>>143558788
Nipland laws say age of consent is 13,you're 2 years too late buddy
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>>143558863
Seriously? Safe then, i guess, tho' my culture still would make me feel like a criminal.
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>>143556973
>All they need on the next album is a rock and rap song.
>rap

No

Nonono
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Macross is voted as the top Idol Anime! Round of applause to Kawamori and Walkure. Beating Idolm@ster and Love Live!
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>>143557052
>>143559155
Walkure could totally pull off a rap song.
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>>143558989
transcend your culture,follow the beating of your hard-on
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>>143559191
Kawamori did it the absolute madman.
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>>143537601

I'm not always a fan of real life locations and photoshop filters but it really works for this one. It kind of brings back memories of what they did with Runner way back in the original series. In any case I have faith in a second ED theme, this series has been money with the music so far. Speaking of which Walkure attack hit number 1 overall on Amazon today. That doesn't necessarily translate 1:1 with sales particularly since Amazon tends to shoulder the more otaku heavy purchases but given how the other singles have done so far I think it's going to do really well. 30K first week would be my prediction.
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>>143559191
Macross is the just the flavor of the month, means literally nothing.

When Macross ends its still Im@s and Love Live.
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>>143559191

If it's Walkure then why does it say January 2015 and list Super Dimension Fortress Macross aka the 1982 series? Also what website is this even and furthermore why should I care? I may be a small rational minority here but I'm not really interested in what "BTFOs" other shows like a lot of the shitposters on /a/, just what I like and whether there will be more of it which is the case for just about everything on this list besides Creamy Mami and AKB0048.

Also when literally half that list is just stuff owned by Bandai Visual including the ones you mentioned it really doesn't make a difference what happens in the long run, all the decisions up the chain are ultimately being made by a lot of the same people and they are the ones benefiting.
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>>143559688

Shut up you stupid person. Please stop posting now cause I promise it won't amount to anything worthwhile or reality based.
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>>143559983
Uhm, wtf?
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>>143555046
>the enemy sings the dark, seductive sexual pop
But Sheryl and Walküre already sang sexual songs. Kawamori doesn't fall for the 'good girls are pure, bad girls are sluts' meme.
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>>143557052
>Two weeks ago in the radio show Reina's VA and Minoringo said we have yet to hear their favourite songs.
It's true! Apparently the decided to go with all the weakest songs for the first album. They are saving the best of the bunch for the second half of the show.
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>>143555552
where does this masterpiece come from?
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>>143559688
That's because Macross doesn't go on forever inbetween series like Love Live and Im@s. And really in the end it's all Bandai
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Holyshit, the drums in NEO STREAMER.
The whole album is so good, man.
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>>143560255
> these are the weakest songs
Anons, I'm scared
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>>143560255
These were the weaker songs?

That's a pretty big statement
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>>143560355
A brosky sent it to me, dunno.
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>>143560255
>Apparently the decided to go with all the weakest songs for the first album
Oh, so that's why Silent Hacker wasn't included in first album. It's the best song so it was saved for second album.
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>>143560571
>Silent Hacker
>Best song
Come on
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>>143559191
That's SDF, not Delta. So round of applause to Kawamori and Minmay, not Walkure.
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>>143560646
My boyfriend's a pilot. What a winner of a song! Number 1!
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>>143560452
Nobody was expecting that from Neo Stream.
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>>143559191
That is from 2015
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Will Hayate also have an Anti-Windnigger valk in the movies since he already had his upgrade in the TV series?
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>>143555621
Because the only one hung up about Messer is Keith. Shit is hilarious. He should have knife-fight him and marry the dude already.
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>>143555046
The only Earthlings in Walkure are Kaname and Makina though. Reina is Zent, Mikumo is certainly not human, and Freyja is Windermere.
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>>143561270
It doesn't matter. All that matters is if they believe in the superior Earth-based (pop) culture or not. That's the difference between windies and everyone else. That's where UNDERSTANDING lies.
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>>143560241
>>But Sheryl and Walküre already sang sexual songs
I know that. I'm just offering two different slices of music

>>143561270
When I say Earthlings I mean just like the protagonists in general. Like maybe they want to stake their claim on the Galaxy and prove their culture is superior by destroying the UN Spacy or something
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When should I expect the movies to release? A year or two after the TV airing?
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>>143561441
Sexual inviting and lovely VS. Sexual predatory and more instinctual?
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>>143561504
Most likely Kawamori is gonna be tied up in his new work directly after Delta. So, probably after that. A year or two, as you say.
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>>143561558
Exactly like that

>>143561504
First of all, there is absolutely no guarantee we'll get more than one movie or even that there will be a movie (but there probably will be)

Second of all, yeah probably a year
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>>143561504
Maybe a Keith manga OVA, that should be easy and short.
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What's the new serie of Kawamori about?
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>>143561373
>if they believe in the superior Earth-based (pop) culture or not.

Do you Remember Love? Is a Protoculture song, not Earth pop. Aimo is a Vajra song.
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>>143561667
It depends on how much interest gathers from the BL/rotten girl crowd. But maybe.
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>>143561738
Anybody who follows in the footsteps of Minmei is following Earth pop
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>>143561572
I can't even wait a week for new episodes. How am I going to wait a year?
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>>143561743
It's becoming popular from what I've seen and funnily enough people now want an OVA of their manga.
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>>143561868
The same way everybody else waited a year for The False Songstress
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>>143561712
a poorfag PMC fights an army of bishounen space vikings that also have song magic
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>>143561978
Truly the master of omnipandering
Sasuga Kawamori
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I know I'm late but
>this shot
What the fuck is this hot garbage? Fire whoever is responsible.
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>>143562350
Don't worry, Kawas already water-tortured them.
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>>143562350
Low resolution planet backdrops are so early 2000s. Reminds me of gundam seed.
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So Makina's "Jiritikku Beginner"'s main singer?
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>>143562350
Kawamori is trying to maintain the quality of Macross tv series
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>>143562350
It represents the planet not being in the focus of the shot anon :^)
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Post your reaction to your favorite song from the album.

>Bokura no Senjou
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>>143562917
I'll post my reaction to tripcancer instead.
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>>143562917
>Bokura no Senjou
I had high hopes for this song. But I don't like the album version for some reason. I loved it the times it was used in the show though.
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>>143562917
AXIA full is glorious, Kaname best Walkure.
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>>143558863
>Nipland laws say age of consent is 13,you're 2 years too late buddy

That's only one part of the law, the effective age of consent is 18, with some exceptions for parental approval.
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>>143563022
t. jelly messer
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>>143563025
So am I a pedo or not?
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>>143562709
>It represents the planet not being in the focus of the shot
:^)
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Where can I find the album? I checked Nyaa.
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>>143556963
Still my favorite scene in all of macross
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>>143563132
No because she's not a prepubescent child.
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>>143563166
Walküre Attack, nigger
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>>143563206
I can't believe I didn't try searching Walkure. Thanks.
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>>143563241
Don't forget the ü, with funny dots on top.
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>>143563132
>So am I a pedo or not?

Clinically speaking no, because 15 is post-pubescent.
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>>143563241
You clearly didn't try looking for Macross in Japanese either, which is usually the obvious way
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>>143563271
Sweet, I can still see people in the eye.
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>>143563306
If you're old enough to post here I'd still generally recommend against speaking in public about your attraction to 15 year old girls, it's not generally socially acceptable. (Well you might get away with it at the lower end of the margin, but just barely.)
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>>143560836
Kyun Kyun motherfucker
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>>143563376
I'm not attracted to 15 year olds per se, i just like JUNNA because dat voice and cute dojikko/serious business.
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>>143561868
Well generally speaking you just do it because there's no other option, but I guess you could take up heavy drinking and try to forget a whole year if it's really hard for you.
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>>143562917
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>>143562350
shallow depth of field
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how do you defeat an enemy that can teleport a mind-control song inside your head?
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>>143562981
I still like the version on the album, but I agree with you that it was a disappointment compared to the performances used in the show. They were punchier somehow.
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>>143563633
Bring your own mind control song.
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>tfw the only pure singers in Macross are Basara and Heinz
Even Freyja wears sexual outfits.
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>>143564024
Heinz won't be pure after Mikumo gets ahold of him.
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How come none of the simulcast companies picked this up? Aren't mechs and idols popular?

Also, are gg's subs even good, or should I just wait for Doki/Chihiro to hopefully finish translating to start watching?
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>>143564186
I want to see this in at least a doujin.
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>>143564223
AND
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>>143564223
Licensing nightmare.
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>>143562981
>>143563665
Was gonna mention this last night but fell asleep, that and like other people I wanted solos for songs.
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>>143564223
Harmony Gold
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>>143564223
GG is fine familia and I guess you are not aware of Harmony Gold.
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>>143562981
Really? I actually it delivered. Especially around 3:22, those parts were amazing! Wished they used it during some sort of intense scene.
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>>143564520
I'm gonna have to listen to it again, just because of your comment.
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>>143564282
>>143564284
>>143564350
>>143564404
Ah okay, thanks. Harmony Gold does sound a little familiar but for some reason I thought it died a while ago.
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>>143564594
It picks up around 3:03 just imagine an intense battle and Mikumo's fierce voice doing some Shinpi crazy action.
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>>143564223
Harmony Gold has been blocking any Macross series past the original to the West for the past 20+ years despite not having any real license to the them. Those assholes are primarily doing this it to keep their already dead franchise Robotech "relevant".
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>>143564679
The fuckers are still alive as a real estate company unfortunately. They used to release other anime though edited and/censored like Captain Harlock, Galaxy Express 999, and Windaria.
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>>143564679
>but for some reason I thought it died a while ago.
So does the rest of the world
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>>143564024
Have you seen how many women Basara has kissed?
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I'm kinda confused. You said that Mirage stuck in the ship is loser flag but Freyja has a loser flags too isn't she?
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>>143565638
Stuck in the ship/compartment isn't a loser flag since Misa and Sheryl were also stuck with their LIs.
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>>143565638
They both have flags, so basically, they mean shit. That's Kawamori's plan >>143543638
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What is your favorite Macross /a/?
For me it will always be 7.
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>>143565638
I think I've made it clear that both girls have loser flags. Intentionally
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>>143565638
Zero: Main girl who has a special connection with MC wins
Frontier: Main girl who has a special connection with MC wins
Aquarion: Main girl who has a special connection with MC wins
Evol: Main girl who has a special connection with MC wins
The Fool: Main girl who has a special connection with MC wins
Delta: _______________

You should be able to solve this.
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>>143565759
DYRL. Forever.
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>>143565759
7 for me as well.
>best boy
>so many good songs
>plenty of funny moments
>plot gets so ridiculous at times but is still fun
>the whales

Though, I loved all of them aside from SDF Macross. DYRL is fucking perfection though.
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>>143566078
>>143565736
Misa was stuck but only after Hikaru was stuck with Minmay. In both SDF and DYRL.

It's true Sheryl was stuck with Alto but remember Ranka got trapped in there too
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>>143565804
Why can't you just say SDF Macross instead? DYRL is just a retelling of the tv series.
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>>143566193
Because I liked DYRL than I liked the TV series?
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>>143566193
>SDF Macross
I'm watching this right now. Up to ep 16. It's somewhat interesting, but not really a masterpiece. That's my view on the first macross.
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>>143566193
DYRL has nice animation and the most iconic song of the franchise even if the story is shittier.
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This last episode teased us with some MirageXHayate. Only to BTFO any hope this ship had with Freyja jumping and fusing with Hayate.

Damn fucking great episode!
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>>143566385
>BTFO
>Hayate didn't even give a fuck
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>>143565736
Sheryl got stuck in the show which didn't have a resolution. Sky won. Sky-chan wasn't stuck there.

Misa wasn't much stuck with Hikaru but trapped briefly between the emergency mode to talk about Minmay/Kaifun. While the summary sounds like Hayate and Mirage will be trapped for a while and getting desperate, like Minmay and Hikaru.

Anyway, Ranka and Alto also spent time trapped somewhere together in the middle arc. While Sheryl and Michel were trying to save them.
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>>143565798
This. It's not really that complicated.

>BUT MUH MINMAY
Didn't "win" because she didn't want him and because Kawamori decided Hikaru should lose and throw him an old hag as compensation.
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>>143543721
Hahaha that thread, Kawamori's fucking with shipper so I'm not gonna believe anything until the episode end.
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>>143564933
Not consistently. SDF got an official subbed release in its original form, Macross Plus got an official western release (both movie and OVA), Macross 7 would have but the sheer amount of music made it too expensive to license.
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>>143566385
It teased both sides really
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>>143566523
>muh silver medal

Mad Minmayfags still butthurt and salty 25 years later.
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>>143566473
>While the summary sounds like Hayate and Mirage will be trapped for a while and getting desperate, like Minmay and Hikaru.

Actually it sounds like they get trapped and actually try to be proactive and useful, which is completely unlike Minmay and Hikaru.
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>>143566429
>didn't give a fuck
>literally was high and became a super ace pumped out by Freyja

He didn't give a fuck about Mirage though. You're right. She's just a convenient bro to protect his waifu.
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>>143566695
It's not like Misa and Hikaru got "trapped" (they weren't) because they were productive. They were busy bitching and whining about their love lives because Kaifun/Minmay doesn't like mee bawwww while their actual useful coworkers were worried about the war. I'm rewatching Macross and both of them are fucking useless and shit. They could have died and nothing of value had been lost. Their most famous deed was to take Minmay with them and incompetently lose themselves with her in deep space.

Roy, Claudia, Global, Max and Milia on the other hand were actually useful. Hikaru and Misa only clogged the screen with their romance woe and personal drama.
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>>143566810
Unless I misunderstood the preview was saying something about Mirage and Hayate attempting repairs while trapped, so that's what I was referring to.
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I don't want to believe and hope with the summary anymore. Just like episode 9 preview said that Freyja seeing them alone together and become worry and it end up with Freyja seeing them on the beach and then she scream "Hawaaaaa" ran off while Hayate and Mirage didn't have any romantic moment at all.
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>>143566193
Quite honestly, SDF had a lot of rough edges. While some of those rough edges were quite funny (knife scene) some of it was just a bit unbearable.
Minmay is just a fucking cunt the entire show. I thought she was really cute at first and wanted her to win. As the show went on, it wasn't that I wanted cake to win, but the fact that I just wanted her to lose. That, and My Boyfriend is a Pilot and Shao Pai Long are hot trash.
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>>143566932
>My Boyfriend is a Pilot and Shao Pai Long are hot trash
You are my soulmate.
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>>143566899
Yes, but the summary made it sound like they stayed for a while there (like Hikaru and Minmay). Misa and Hikaru weren't really trapped, they had a few hours whining about how the Chinesefags are fucking each others instead of them while their coworkers were risking their asses out there. The more I rewatch this shit, the more I hate both of them. Why the fuck did I ever like a melodramatic bitch like Misa? Or a worthless guy like Hikaru? Minmay is a cunt, but at least she did something semi useful before she got swallowed by their black hole of retarded romantic drama. Claudia and Milia are easily better.
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I'm Freyjafag.
When this show started airing I was really worried that she can lose. All that bullying by miragefags with all those Winners/Losers images and comparisons with previous entries did work. But now I don't have a single doubt Freyja will either win or we will get another shitty sky end.
I couldn't give a single fuck when Hayate hugged Mirage. It looked like a really poor attempt to create competition and love drama when the fight is already over.
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>>143567020
>I don't have a single doubt Freyja will either win

So you went from bitter to delusional
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>>143567020
I think like you too but I'm still scare because it's Kawamori's show and he is playing with shippers now.
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>>143567020
>I forgot when people were rooting for Zessica and thinking she'll win only to get annihilated by the man
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>>143567020
>another shitty sky end

Sky end is just a meme, Sheryl won in both TV and the movies.
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>>143567115
>comparing a secondary heroine MC never gave a shit about with the main heroine who has a special bond with the MC and is the most important character in the show
You're full delusional m8.
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Why is kawakawa so shinpi?
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>>143567115
There was a big difference with Zessica. Amata loved other girl from episode 1. Even though everyone loved Zessica more she was always underdog in the show.

>>143567098
This interview is what blew any chance of Mirage winning:
>https://karice.wordpress.com/2016/05/29/p509/#more-11393
>Yasuda: The main triangle consists of Freyja, Hayate and Mirage—we’re aiming for something that feels good, without the syrupy or muddled aspects that you often see in those midday soaps. I want a romance where the viewers feel like they want to watch over these characters.
At this point Mirage can't win without some heavy drama involved and authors explicitly promised we won't have any. Kawamori is not teasing shippers, he is just reminding them that triangle actually exists.
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>>143567131
>Sky end is just a meme, Sheryl won in both TV and the movies.
>Sheryl won in TV
Didnt Alto refuse her when she confessed because he loved ranka in the TV series though? I only saw her get a pity fuck, it really looked like Sheryl won in the movie and Ranka in the TV series.
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>>143566066
>best boy
Who?
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>>143567432
>Didnt Alto refuse her when she confessed because he loved ranka in the TV series though?
The fuck. It was Alto then who tried to confess to Sheryl and she shut him with a kiss.
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>>143567418
>At this point Mirage can't win
Just like Misa """can't win""" and just like there """wasn't""" heavy drama with Messer's mini-arc and everytime they show Windermere.
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>>143567432
Holyshit what's wrong with your brian. Alto gonna confess to Sheryl in episode 24 but she shut his mouth with her kiss.
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>>143567510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYps5fUrAWs
Who else?
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>>143567432
Did you got hit in your head while you were watching Frontier?

>>143567418
I think Freyja (Or the sky) is gonna win, but using that interview as proof is beyond stupid.
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>>143567418
>he is just reminding them that triangle actually exists.
>You want triangle right? Here I let Hayate hug Mirage now Freyja is jealous and then I let him teasing with her rune and here Mirage is jealous.
He's teasing shippers anon.
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>>143566251
>>143566300
Actually that wasn't my point. A lot of fans who liked Frontier movies over the tv series and vice-versa don't really separate them like they were 2 different series. I mean Frontier tv series and its movies practically function the same way as SDF and DYRL.
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>>143567418
What exactly is a feel good triangle? I'm having trouble imagining one.
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>>143567808
I liked the part in Frontier TV where they were all at the mall and they started competitively singing for Alto's attention. That made a pretty lovely triangle.
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>>143567115
Of all the "comparison to old Kawamori shows" you could think of, comparing Freyja and Zessica is probably the shittiest
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>>143567432
>Didnt Alto refuse her when she confessed because he loved ranka in the TV series though?
What the fucking hell show were you watching?
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>>143567720
>A lot of fans who liked Frontier movies over the tv series and vice-versa don't really separate them like they were 2 different series
Why not? I mean I do all the time. I always say the Frontier movies were fantastic and the TV show wasn't really good
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>>143567547
/a/ seriously should adopt /jp/'s ``quotation marks''

>Misa
Misa won without heavy drama because there were no chemistry between Hikaru and Minmay.
>heavy drama with Messer's mini-arc
Interview mentions "feels good" development only for Hayate-Freyja-Mirage triangle. And that's exactly what we had in the first 13 episodes. Messer's drama has absolutely no relation to the main triangle.

>>143567676
>but using that interview as proof is beyond stupid.
No. It shows intention of authors. And knowing intention is almost the same as knowing result. They don't want another F melodrama, they want to keep things simple.

>>143567808
It's exactly the one we have in Delta. It's slow and straightforward development of romantic relationship. Girls are probably still not aware that they like Hayate. All shipwars so far are fuelled purely by shitposters and their stupid comparisons with previous shows.
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But Hayate isnt in love with anyone. How can any girl win when hes not interested?
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>>143568119
Well that's the real issue then isn't it?


>>143567547
I don't know how much we have to go over this but Misa falling for Hikaru was not in the plan at the beginning and it was shifted into a love triangle through the production
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>>143568119
Shipping always finds a way.
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>>143568111
>They don't want another F melodrama
That's perfectly fine and I like that, but how does that mean that Freyja is gonna win? It can only be a feel good triangle if she wins?
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>>143568119
This. I wonder when will this boi notice that he's the center of the triangle.
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>>143568056
I'm referring them as a series. I'm not saying you can't like the movie(s) over the tv series or vice-versa. But DYRL at its core is still SDF Macross while The False Songstress and The Wings of Goodbye is Macross Frontier.
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>>143568227
Did Mikonofags even exist?
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>>143568291
Kawamori is probably the only one.
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>>143568283
But I don't like SDF as much as I like DYRL.

I mean it's not like DYRL is a direct sequel or a recap movie, it's a completely and radically different interpretation of the events so I don't see the problem with thinking of them as seperate
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>>143568260
At this point - yes. Too much time was spent on showing all Hayate x Freyja chemistry.
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>>143568269
Even I (as a viewer) am not sure if they love him yet. How can Hayate be aware of it then?
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>>143568330
But Freyja is such a cutie! How could you deny her screentime?
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If Frontier is any example at the current rate nobody is going to win. Ranka lost in Frontier largely because she refused to proactively pursue a relationship with Alto and instead passively waited for him to approach her while Sheryl was out going after what she wanted. So far in Delta even though they appear to be starting to realize their feelings neither girl has made made a move.
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>>143568330
>At this point
Yeah, it's not like we still have 13 episodes.
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>>143568119
Hayate is in love with the wind.
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>>143568260
I don't know but feel good for Freyja losing is "MUH SONG" and "MUH MIKUMO" and now she only shouting "HAYATEE". Maybe they can't find the way.
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>>143568291
I don't know if I was invested enough in the shipwar to call myself a true Mikonofag, but I didn't mind her and thought it was pretty obvious Zessica had zero chance of getting with Amata.

Pic related was my ship.
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>>143568328
> it's a completely and radically different interpretation
This, in the sense that Kaifun is mostly absent as a character(for the better, because his character was stupid), Minmay and Hikaru's relationship start off completely different, the story starts off on the Macross, the titular song from the movie isn't even in the normal series, and honestly, Minmay is a lot better as a character. Though, that isn't saying much. There are many other differences, but those are just a few of the major ones.
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>>143568450
Considering how much development of romantic relationship we got in the first half of Delta I wouldn't bet on the next 13 episodes to drastically change anything.
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995 名前:メロンさんex@ご利用は紳士的に@無断転載は禁止 (スプー Sd64-6ms8)[sage] 投稿日:2016/07/02(土) 09:29:53.23 ID:vBOq9m5Pd
キースの中の人が「物語はここからです」って言ってるから
2期から何か大きく動くみたいだね
We're getting a roller coaster
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>>143537507
Mirage is the sensei, not the love interest. There's no way she can win now that Hayate is calling her Instructor.
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>>143568776
As long as we don't get a reverse first cour with Delta attacking Windermere and retreating a la Team Rocket.
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Seriously, I don't get all these shipping tease that they are trying to depict for every ep.
Just have Hayate bang both of them already.
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>>143568776
Is this why we are getting trapped in the spaceship episode?
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I just want more Mikumo x Heinz Is that too much to ask?
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You think Delta will get movies? I bet Freyja will already be a member of Walkure albeit a new one.
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>>143569049
Alternate retelling movie where Mirage is the idol and Freyja is the pilot.
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>>143569011
Yes. Don't sexualize Heinz-sama.
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>>143569086
Freyja would be a better pilot than Mirage.
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>>143569049
Kawamori already announced his next big project for 2017-2018. So I'm not sure if they will have time/resources for movies.

http://www.project-the-next.com/
>I am going to challenge to create a piece of entertainment that no one has ever seen by combining the “coolest” forefront technologies and the drive of human’s burning souls, just like how the species evolved.
>Shoji Kawamori June 30th, 2016.
Is this going to be EVOL or Nobunaga level of shit?
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Hrimz gets kidnapped by Epsilon NUNs make him mind control Bodol Zer and Vajra fleets and some Protodeviln. Delta Knights team up to rescue. Minmay+Hikaru appear, Basara appears like some cool old guy with Max and Milia. Ranka and Sheryl with their bishonen husbands in their VFs
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>>143569109
shouldn't it be Roid, not Keith?
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>>143569161
0048 sequel confirmed
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>>143569161
I hope it's Nobunaga's, last episode had one of the most hilarious plot twists I've seen. We spent all the show making fun of Mitsu for being such a cuck and in the end he was the chosen one and the true hero of the story and MC was the one who was wrong all along.
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>>143569086
I hate retellings.
Just do something like they did with Seven and everyone will be happy.
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>>143569300
>nobunaga
>ever the good guy
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>>143568776
>>143568811
>>143568860
Why do you guys always do this? Someone please translate.
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>>143569161
Isn't that just a Mikumo spin-off?
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>>143569650
>Delta dynamite with Kumo
MUH
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>>143569617
Just use google-translate.
>Because the people in the Keith is saying "the story is from here."
>It looks like something move significantly from the second phase
Basically bla-bla this is where real plot begins.
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>>143568111
>Misa won without heavy drama

Nigga what? The scarf incident? Misa getting drunk during Christmas and acting pathetic because of Hikaru and Minmay living together? Minmay dramatically chasing after Hikaru while a city is bombed?

How that wasn't dramatic? Yeah, Minmay shrugged off because she was never in love with him, but Misa was kicked around and tortured emotionally and was being melodramatic.
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So why the fuck did they take out the preview summary? PREVIEW PICTURE FUCKING WHEN
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>>143559191

>muh poll
>in a time where only one of the series is being hyped

But what about the sales cuck?

>this kills the fukboi
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Minmay only Macross girl who had more than one cock right?
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>>143569049
I'm sure it will, but it won't be for like a year, year and a half
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>>143569327
But DYRL and the Frontier movies were better than their originals and had better conclusions
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>>143569300
He wasn't even a cuck. Director clarified Ichihime loved both Ceasar and Mitsuhide equally, she "ignored" him in order for him to not be hung up on her by her loss. Stage wise, she dies on Mitsuhide's arms.

Mitsuhide put her as a princess of the Oda over her as a woman. He ends up with one of those trio girls, the one who has a crush on him. Another marries Monkey.
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>>143569833
>Getting mad at a poll from 2015 and it was talking about SDF Macross
Figure out moon

>But what about the sales cuck?
They'll be fine unless you're one of those insane people who thought it would do like Frontier which is insane
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>>143569903
As in sex or being/liking more than one guy?
>Original
Misa wasn't a virgin, she had slept with Riber, her fiancee before he went off to Mars. She also liked Kainfun before she fell for Hikaru.
Minmay was with Kaifun and then Hikaru, maybe she had sex with one of them. But she's kind of a secret music autism deep down.
In the movie, there's only sexual implication for Misa. Minmay is 100% pure and loves songs.
>Zero
Sara, yes. Hard to fuck around when you become MIA/KIA. Mao gave her first kiss with Shin, then married someone. I can easily see her dating and sleeping around as a confident young woman who becomes a famous scientist.
>Plus
Myung sleeps with Guld and now is with Isamu. She wasn't really a virgin when she fucked Guld either.
>Seven
Mylenne was raped by a lesbian in the manga. Basara is pure.
>Frontier
TV Sheryl had a crush on someone before Alto (she mentions it in her journal), looks like was unrequited/didn't work out. She was a virgin when Alto fucked her. Movie Sheryl is an Altofag since her loli days. While Ranka has Alto (not sexually) and an unknown guy she marries someday (Brera in some continuities).

Freyja and Mirage are both established as inexperienced, but most Macross heroines weren't one man-exclusive.
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>>143538338

It means you've discovered imoutos.
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>>143570317
Also in non canon II, both Ishtar and Sylvie had a side guy. Kawamori doesn't think it's very healthy to fixated on some unrequired crush of your teens, he makes his heroines move on and I think he shat on Zessica because her obsession was bad for her health (he was fucking with purityfags).
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>>143569792
That's right. Apparently episodes 1-13 was the prologue of the story. The actual story starts now. It's crazy that they took 13 episodes for a prologue though.

Guess that means the delta movie might actually start with Freyja being apart of Walkure.
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>>143569792
>>143570456

That's Keith's opinion, not a staff member but from Keith, a character, perspective.
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Could any of the Walkure by themselves own a stage as well as Sheryl?
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>>143570456
It's not a prologue, it just saying that the story begins from Keith's Manga onwards. It has shit to do with the second cour. Two different statements.
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>>143570450
And yet the moral of Evol is that Mykage/Touma was right in not getting over Apollonius.
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>>143559191
Is Creamy Mami goat?
Should I watch it or wait for the inevitable remake?
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>>143570613
Sheryl is a diva who got caught in military situations she had to be involved.

Walkure are a military unit that occasionally give concerts for revenue. They aren't idols, they are a "tactical sound unit" first and foremost.

They are completely different.
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>>143570527
Anon, 'Insert character's name' の中の人 means VA. It's Ryouhei Kimura's opinion.
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>>143570670
Apollonius was his lover and fiance once. It's not the same as a completely unrequited love as Zessica's. They knew each other for thousands of years. How can you compare that to a stupid bimbo's crush because a guy is 'cute' or was 'nice'? Zessica's obsession with Amata never made sense.
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>>143570744
So his VA's opinion. He probably means the NUNshit and Epsilon shit of what will began. Which was set up already.

It's the same with Frontier, first cour was a set up for the second for shit hit the fan.
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>>143570763
>Zessica's obsession with Amata never made sense.
Now I know why I am still a virgin. Apparently I need to know a girl for TWELVE THOUSAND YEARS if I want my love to make sense.
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Only Max got a pure waifu
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>>143570317
Back in the 80s having a fiance doesnt mean you fuck. Especially if it was arranged by her dad.
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>>143537769
Did you see the Macross Plus OVA or Movie? The movie has some extra concert footage and music, and better pacing in some parts.
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>>143555253
>two big chunks of it is damn expensive
The YF-29 has 4 large chunks in the airframe.

>The Fold Wave system is an overdrive system with four Fold Quartz and is equipped with a total of four fold wave devices. Those devices were named after the four relics contained in golden hilt of saintly sword Durandal, "Saint Peter's tooth", "Saint Basil's blood ", "Saint Denis' hair", and "piece of the Blessed Virgin Mary's raiment".
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>>143571308
Misa's first was Riber. Confirmed by novelization. She was IN LOVE with him. She even chased Kaifun thinking he was Riber reborn. Hikaru's first was Minmay. Minmay's first was Kaifun.

All were used goods.

This was the 80s.
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>>143572116
MacrossSluts

Changed in Zero
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>>143559191
All they need now is a good arcade game/mobage to keep the idol cash flowing
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>>143572116
Well I guess its okay since Riber wasnt alive to take responsibility
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>>143572116
>>143572235

>Calling all these girls sluts

Just because they fucked more than one guy doesn't make them sluts. If they fucked more than two or three, sure.
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>>143572334
What a cuck. Cuckross
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