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>Saturday marks 50 episodes.

It's been running long enough to form an educated opinion... What does /a think of Dragon Ball Supe
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>>143516261
Considering the anime is only now getting interesting with the Black Goku arc (which still sounds like a bad fanfiction desu senpai) I think it's fair to say that DBS is shit.
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>>143516261
Ignoring the retelling of the movies. It's simultaneously a 0/10 and a 10/10. So 5/10.
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>>143516261

>He needs 50 fucking episodes to give an educated opinion

It was shit out the gate it's shit now
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Hard to say. It was shit until they started the tournament arc, then It went from shit to 5/10 and now from what I've seen from Future Trunks arc It's 6/10. I'm a fan of OG DB and DBZ so at least I hope It gets better.
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>>143516261
We're all just kind of waiting for it to get good.
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>>143516314
Cell does too
>A super warrior made from the DNA of all the main characters and the strongest villain they fought so far!!!
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>>143516261
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>>143516261
I love how chill Beerus and Whiz are with Goku and Vegeta. They just eat good food, train and sleep on their private planet. Felt like fucking invincible when Beerus and Whiz joined the group when Bulma told everyone about Trunks.
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I've only been reading the manga.

Even though I'm enjoying it a little I still think it's lazy.
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Its literally not made for us so I think its fine.
Its playing to nostalgiafags and kids in japan. Mixes the fun part of DB with the serious parts of DBZ.
Taking it 'seriously' is losing
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>>143516261
It's good sine it confirms what we already knew; the fact that Goku can indeed beat Superman.
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>>143516708
You are not a nostalgiafag? What? Are you telling me most of /a/ didn't grow up with DB?
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It's shit, dropped it weeks ago.
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Without the movie shit it's like a 6.5 out of 10
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>>143516261
It's become even more Goku focused than before, his power level his so high you just know he will destroy any opponent outright. Hit was one guy that matched him but he wasn't even a villain.
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>>143516378
I hate to break it to you, but chances are it won't get any better than this. And even if it does, getting better past the halfway point is too little too late.

>>143516708
>Its literally not made for us
>It's playing to nostalgiafags
....what?
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>>143516261

100x better than GT
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>>143516261
It's shit
>>143517347
100x0=0
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>>143517347
At least GT had a more original design than dA-tier recolors.
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>>143516261
I like it
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>>143517281
>....what?

He is probaly an 18 year old kid.
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Fuck Toei
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i would rate it a 8 out of 10 the series has lots of hype moments...Black is one of my top favorite villains
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>>143516500
Beerus and Whis made it pretty clear in the Freeza fight that they have no real intention of stopping any villains that might show up
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>>143516261
I like it. Can't say I was a huge fan of the movie recaps, but it's harmless and perfectly watchable overall.

And I have huge crush on Whis so there's that
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>>143516261
Shit
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>>143516261

It's pretty bad.
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>>143516261

The animation is really my biggest gripe, the Beerus and Golden Frieza arcs were so bad and everyone just got nerfed to shit.

Also first two arcs were superfluous because of the movies

Am I in the minority here if I think BoG and RoF were actually better than the first two arcs by a wide margin?
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>>143516261
Somehow worse than GT
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Makes me like the Buu saga even more.
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Why are the gods just hanging out on Earth?
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>>143516261
Worse than GT, no joke.
>It took 50 episodes to get somewhere remotely interesting
Jesus.
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>>143518347
Because Earth has the most delicious food in all of the universe
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>>143518304

In terms of quality and character development the Cell arc is above all, but the Buu sagas were more intense and edgy overall, I actually like them best. Plus it was cool to see how people in the real world would deal with the superpowered fuckery, we got a taste in the Cell Games arc
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>>143516261
has some good moments, some bad

but overall i like it and am glad it exists
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10633632
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10633632

Let's see it /a/.
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It overall reminds me of Dragon Ball, and evovled to appeal properly to a generation that grew up with it. The natural progression from fun, and innocent adventures, to edgy shounen, back to mellowed out innocent adventures. "There, and back again. A Saiyan's tale."
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>>143518512
>It overall reminds me of Dragon Ball, and evovled to appeal properly to a generation that grew up with it

I think it appeals to people too young to remember dragon ball but who want to say they liked it for internet cred, since Dragon Ball was actually GOOD.
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>>143518599
No, I've rewatched dragon ball and most of Super. I watch it in chunks, and not week by week. You're just some faggot who want net cred for being a hipster, and probably bitter GT is not canon.
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>>143517533

I mean Toriyama did a lot of the designs for both, but Super is doing new stuff rather than just playing on nostalgia
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>>143518490
this webm summarizes it pretty well
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>>143518744
>but Super is doing new stuff
>Black Goku

You aren't being serious are you?
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I haven't seen an episode beyond the cell saga and I thought both the android and cell sagas were kinda shit compared to everything that came before them

how does super compare to Z?
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>>143516261

Toriyama had diarrhea in a bucket. He then retired to nap all day. A team then rush out to take this diarrhea and smear it all over some pages in the hopes of fufilling Toriyama's "Artistic vision".
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>>143518905
Way worse, and not because it "went back to it's dragon ball roots" like apologists like to say.
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>>143516261
Worse than Gt.
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>>143519013
Not as bad as GT. Objectively better.
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>>143519490
Objectively worse.
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>>143519490
You can hold that opinion if that's what you feel anon, but I believe the opposite on the basis that they're both about equally bad in the writing department, but on most other aspects they can be judged GT is anywhere from a little better to vastly superior.

And this is not to say GT is good. GT is quite bad. Simply that it did things, like music, art, character design and animation better than Super has.
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So to get a better a Dragon Ball Super experience, i should watch the two movies.

Then continue from EP number......

help
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>>143519633
The best Dragon Ball Super experience is to not watch it. If you absolutely must read the manga to save time.
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To this day I haven't seen GT. Is it worth it?

I do know the basic story structure since I watched first few episode years and years ago, and I've played the games that recap the story.
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>>143520050
Not really honestly. There's a fuckton of filler and even the main arcs are so-so at best.
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The worst Thing is Chichi, why does they make her into a Person you could only hate? Making one of the strongest persons in the universe grow vegetables? why not a Job where he can use his power to make easy and fast Money, like delivering Objects with instant teleport. Also in the Z Series, "doesnt matter that you can fly, now lern to drive a car, Picolo too!" Stupid Bitch
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>>143520109
Hello mexico.
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Just started watching. Why is the Pilaf gang kids? Did this happen in DB or something and I just forgot?
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>>143521124
They wished to be kids again offscreen because that way they could retcon GT. They were old geezers at the start of that
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It's really only been... 22~ episodes really of new content.

The two movies were pretty good, the TV arcs of them were disappointing. The first anime original arc was okay.

Better than GT. Like a 6.5~/10, and GT was a 4.5/10.
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>>143521193
>They wished to be kids again offscreen
I was hoping it wasn't that. Kind of a cop-out but whatever. It's probably because they thought Super needed more characters that was the target demographic's age than just Goten and Trunks.
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>>143521124
It happened offscreen and got explained in the Battle of Gods movie, but the Battle of Gods arc in Super chose not to include the explanation for some reason.

Basically they summoned Shenlong and worded their wish badly.
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>>143521193
So basically they just ripped off the start of GT except they made their wish work properly instead of working on Goku.
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>All the delusional Z fags in this thread not realizing that this show is far superior to their repetitive bullshit

Z had never had characters that truly mattered after the arc they were introduced in with the sole exception of Gohan. Meanwhile Super has Beerus, Whis, Zenou and likely Hit as well.
Zs arcs also always follwed the same scheme: Overpowered villain gets introduced, Z fighters train, someone of the Z fighters defeat him, repeat. Meanwhile Super had various different arc structures, like one which ended with the villain actually winning but deciding to not destroy earth, one tournament arc that was not won by one of the Z fighters and one quick arc, where the villain was defeated without any training specifically to beat him.
Literally the only thing that is truly shittier in Super is the animation, but the plot is far better than Zs.
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>>143521343
Eh, I shit on Super a lot but it's one of the better decisions they made. Pilaf and company are some of the most likable characters in Super so far.
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It's okay
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>>143518818
But we know "Goku" isn't really Black's true form.
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>>143521503
I'm not complaining, loli Mai's cute, but it's still a cop-out just like kid Goku in GT was.
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>>143519629
>art
>character design

Opinion discarded.
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>>143521435
Skipping that explanation is the dumbest thing Super has done so far. It does nothing but create confusion.
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>>143521593
>Super
>Good art

Everything is oversimplified and sterile as fuck. Terribly off model way too much of the time. GT was far more consistent, and far better looking frame by frame.

>Super
>>good character design

Haha. The closest thing super has come to that is Black Goku, and it's literally fucking Goku with decently designed clothes. Honorable mention goes to Vados and Champa, but they're just a rule63 of Beerus and Whis so it's hard to fuck it up too bad.
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>>143521483
>likely Hit as well.
I sure hope so, would be a waste if he only showed up for the tournament again.
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>>143521731
>Champa
>rule63
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>>143521731
Did you just imply that you don't like Whis design? Because it's fabulous as fuck.
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>>143518197
>Am I in the minority here if I think BoG and RoF were actually better than the first two arcs by a wide margin?
Everybody feels that way
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>>143517887
Black seems to be on another level compared to Frieza. I mean this guy has a means of traveling through time but he could if things go south, take from them their main source of great food.
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>>143521971
If he went back in time and destroyed Earth, he'd create a new timeline, just like Trunks himself did. Beerus wouldn't have any reason to care about that
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>>143522588
i dont know if i remember right, but wasnt there something in Z, that Future Trunks came not from their future but from another future, like from another universe from the multiverse?
As i first saw Future Trunks in S i thought about he could come from another of the 12 Universes, but that may be to easy
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It's shit. But what the fuck else am I going to do but watch it. I've seen everything else DB related.
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>>143523361
with multiverse i dont mean the 12 Universes, i mean like the DC multiverse, where everithing could happen in any other universe of the multiverse, but than there is the question: can he get back to his universe, can he come to the same universe again, if he travel a second time? Is GT happening in another Universe of the Mulitverse? and so on...
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>>143523361
No.
When you travel back in time, you create a new timeline/dimension that develops in a different way than the one you lived through, but what you lived through still exists, and traveling back to the future will take you there, not to the future of that new timeline you made. Every time time traveling is done, this happens.

The 12 universes thing is a completely separate concept.
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I like it, I would rate it about 6/10.
The retelling of the movies arcs were shit and went on far too long, Bog as a movie was good but the arc was shit and revial of F was fucking stupid in the movie and arc because I did not the concept at all.
The filler bits such as clone vegeta have been stupid as well.

So far I really like the tournament arc and I am liking this new one, so far these are the only arcs where I was excited to see dragon ball super in my torrent client feed instead the usual oh fuck I gotta watch this crap sometime this week.
Reminds me of DBZ to be honest and I know some people here will take that as the ultimate sacrilege but you guys gotta rewatch DBZ there was a whole lot of nothing going on in that too.
Fuck didn't it take Freeza ten episodes to blow up a planet in ten minutes and whats worse, rewatching DBZ made me notice theres a lot standing around, panning to each characters face as they say something or just go hmmm.
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>>143521555
>Black's true form

What do you mean true form? He just looks like a younger, skinnier Goku.
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>>143521971
>>143522588
>>143523361
>>143523535
>>143523590
i often hate time travel, it can never be explained right, there are always paradoxes and the easyest way to get out of them is to rely on the multiverse. And the story you are watching is always one of thous universes out of the multiverse, where the rescute comes in the last second and so on...
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>>143516261
>Saturday marks 50 episodes.
That doesn't mean anything since it truly started around episode 28.
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I think it's fun
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it's shit
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>>143516261
Why did they not keep their new outfits?
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>>143516261

It's great I just wish the animation was better I mean DBS is making them a ton of money, so why can't they just hire the freelancers that worked on OPM? Also I want the manga to be weekly so it doesn't have to rush through content to keep up with the anime.

Recap were unneeded, the movies were great on their own and Toei's take on them sucked.
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>>143518744
>Super is doing new stuff rather than just playing on nostalgia

>Copy Vegeta
>Black Goku
>Future Trunks

Yep, so new and no nostalgia-baiting here!
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>>143523782
i often see people complain about one attack 4 episodes and so on, i also dont like it when you watch several weeks and nothing happends

but in all of Dragonball it was never so extreme like in One Piece, that one day in Dresrosa took moor than 2 years in the real world. There are some episodes in DB where nothing happened but in One Piece it was always: 5 min Intro, People running around, Donflamingo got angry wiht this stupid squishy Sound when his veins pumped, 5 times per Episode, Luffy sfreaming "Mingo" every 10 meter he run, Donflamingo laughing about nothing 5 times per Episode, Ussop got scared, a Little bit Story most time something realy stupid and you have to wait another week to get less than a minute of story.

I know this is not a One Piece treat but it was never this worse in Dragonball
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>>143520050
Not really. You're better off watching a series of clips from GT rather than the entirety of it, but at least characters that aren't Goku and Vegeta actually do things
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>>143523782
>>143524506
>DBZ
>animefags
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>>143520050
>To this day I haven't seen GT. Is it worth it?
Nope it's shit.
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I just got done reading all the Dragon ball manga, and the first dragon ball ark before z is amazing and super, gt, and z had nothing on it, it will remain the best.
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>>143516261
you don't need 50 episode of ANY series to form a proper judgement on it. ~6 should be plenty enough, ~3 if you just do it for yourself subjectively
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>>143520050
Super is still more enjoyable than GT.
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People love to shit on this show; unlike GT it actually does feel like Dragonball however.

Once it got past the movie rehash arcs it was fine, but so many people are bitter on it from those arcs that it feels like it'll always take some shit in any conversation.
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>>143516418

it's farfetched but he's a good villain, I like the "Gohan succeeds his father" plot that's thrown together somewhere in the middle, and Goku vs Cell is one of the best animated fights in the entire show
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>>143516261
>It's been running long enough to form an educated opinion...

We are actually barely starting since all the previous shit was from the movies, and it sucked balls. The tournament felt weak but saved thanks to SSB+Kaioken. Nigger arc seems legit interesting.
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>>143527162
>; unlike GT it actually does feel like Dragonball however.
The fuck? GT felt so much like DB unlike Super. Super feels like a shadow of DB.
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How can Super even compete?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsXdfyIMmJ8
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I want to see more of the cute time kai
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>>143524494
Don't bother listening to delusional nostalgia fags anon, even gt fags aren't as retarded as these guys.
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>>143516314
This.

Had hopes for the tournament arc but it was fucking disappointing. Only interesting thing to come from it was SSG Kaioken.

Future Trunks arc is intriguing thus far.. But I don't have much hope for it. They'll find a way to fuck it up I'm sure.
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>>143516261
I was expecting something better than GT. It's been a disappointment so far. The character designs are uninspired. It's also hard to appreciate the fights because the animation is just horrible. Should have stuck with the movies.
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>>143517533

I prefer recolors than new furry designs.
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>>143516261

I wont deny that I am disappointed but there is a few things I like about super

>It expands the DB lore
>Beerus, Whis an the way they interact each other
>Goku not being the strongest character
>Goku being an student again along with Vegeta
>Zeno messing with the arrogant gods of destruction
>Future trunks

And in the last episode I liked how Vegeta looked somehow proud when kid Trunks cheered on future Trunks like saying "yea that's the spirit"
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>>143528963
>Immediately starts jobbing the arc it's introduced in
>Has to rely on the same literal handholding for God tier to actually put up a fight, with even more mediocre results
>Jobs to Double 17
>Mediocre fights against Shadow Dragons (one is beaten by FUCKING RAIN)
>Vegeta gets it through the biggest asspull of the series and only ends up as a power up that doesn't even fucking work right
At least Super Cyan has some legitimate wins under its belt. Monkey Man Magic Pants is a shit form with a shit track record within its own show. It's only good for videogames and spinoffs.
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