Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1588

I prefer not to use the default image but you guys are fucking 遅すぎる and I didn't have anything else decent

second for kana is harder than kanji

I can't stop playing this (turn on captions to fool yourself you're studying):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEULybZnLO8

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こんばんは
>>143399848
ありがとうね

>>143385810
>>143385891
Holy shit I'm so glad I actually bothers to install it, it wasn't so hard after all.
Works like a charm that's fucking nice.

>>143400010
Thanks anon, always appreciate people sharing good videos, even if it isn't really that related to anything

Seen this? Pretty similar style, shit's just so aesthetically pleasing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_xTet06SUo

>>143398205
What I did on Realkana was start from the beginning あいえうお. Get 100 correct, add the next column, 100 correct....

Keep doing this, but after you have like 4/5 columns selected, start unselecting the first stuff you did so that the newer kana shows up more.

Realkana is shit now and I haven't used it since, but I think you should still be able to do this.

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>>143400667
＞あいえうお

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>>143400720

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>couple of years

>>143401017
> Be me
> Got stuck in kana for three years
shit

>>143400468
おお…凄い動画だ
三味線とは私の耳にはドハマリ薬みたいな

>>143401112
Shouganai da ne
Muzukashii mon

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>>143401017
It took me 3 months of regular/average grammar studying with prior kana knowledge to go from "I don't understand shit" to "I can finally understand pretty much anything with a dictionary/OCR and enough time".

Either I'm really smart (very unlikely) or these guys are really dumb, unmotivated and/or lazy.

Guys how can I help with memorisation of the Core2K deck?

I don't wanna learn each kanji by itself but instead want to just learn vocab (and grammar) so I can start reading faster but I'm having a hard time remembering the vocab from the Core2K deck.

>>143401246
目もね
あの弾いている女の子は超カワイイ

>>143401424
>"I can finally understand pretty much anything with a dictionary/OCR and enough time".

That's not really understanding. And I doubt it's even true. Maybe if you're talking about simplistic stuff. But overall Japanese has too much stuff that only becomes easy to understand as you get exposure and experience with the language.

Note that I'm not defending that fag on Reddit.

>>143401424
>it took me 3 months to get to the point where I can inch through VNs misunderstanding every other line

>>143401515
Just keep doing Anki every day and you'll learn them. I too found it really hard at times but with perseverance I got through and now I know Japanese.

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>>143400468
>3DPD version

I unironically use Vocaloid as a study material. It can be good for stuff like 四字熟語.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YTaT0dYvzs

>>143401758
Should I reduce the amount of cards or just grind through it?

OCRing a single page of tobira by hand took me between half an hour and an hour. Of course, I did the preface, which is polluted with furigana, but still.

>>143402140
now why would you go and do that

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>>143402253
I wanted to see if it was humanly possible.

texthooking manga is just a pain in the fucking ass

i think im just gonna read only vn's until i am fluent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C-JGcU__kM

>>143401859
Depends on your time restraints? If your work/study means you don't have much time, you might be better off lowering the number of cards so you can also get time in for other stuff like grammar etc. Otherwise just grind through it.

Most important thing is to do your reviews every single day, if you're having problems it's fine to lower new cards but stopping reviews = failure.

I've known ひらがな for a while, but I can't seem to get カタカナ memorized despite studying using the same method. Why is this?

>>143402847
it's used less

>>143402815
Alright that makes total sense, thanks for the tips anon

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>>143402847
Try Kenji

>>143402847
For me personally, I used Twitter a lot to learn Katakana and Hiragana since I just constantly got notifications in those two since I followed a lot of Japanese accounts and studios.

So I'm just constantly reading them and eventually I was able to memorise it.

>>143401546
It doesn't have much actually, maybe grasping some term usages/nuances is what might be hardest, but the general grammar ruling is really simple.

It might be the mentality you take on how you learn a language too, but if you know the "rules" (and you can read), theoretically you can understand anything.

>>143401610
I dunno, I never gave VNs a try... I did translate some mangos (about 30ish chapters) to force my understanding and to get publicly bashed, but it didn't happen.

I did lots of mistakes, and finding them was the hardest part.

I'm reading LNs now and there's just so much more text, but aside from some new expressions I can't make sense at first, it's still understandable.

I'm looking for a guinea pig to study in a way I propose just to see how good it is, I got a couple of friends already but they're damn too slow getting past the kanas...

>>143402903
What?

>>143400393
What's there to install, actually? You just unzip it

>>143402903
That's Korean anon

keitai de posuto shiteiru kara, nihongo ga kakenai. romaji ga ii desu ka?

>>143403009
What phone doesn't support Japanese input nowadays?

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I don't understand Anki. Can anybody explain what I'm supposed to be doing here?

>>143403064
samsung no keitai desu

>>143403292
Damn, your fonts.conf is kinda broken, or you have too few fonts.

>>143403292
jesus christ what happened here

>>143403364
>>143403381

I was wondering if it was supposed to be this ugly. I have a lot of fonts installed (I installed all of the recommended fonts on the Arch wiki) and never messed with fonts.conf, though.

>>143403444
Not sure what the actual issue is then, does it look like that in other applications? (Also, refer to the Anki manual for the answer to your initial question)

>>143403534

いいえ, everything else looks fine.

>>143403292
Anki is a memorization application.

It has decks: which has a bunch of cards, each card is something you will force into your memory.

It'll give you a word/letter/sentence, and you'll think for yourself what it is.
You probably won't know if it's the first time, you'll click "show answer" and it'll show you.

Then you select one of the options based on how you fare your knowledge of that card:
Again, Hard, Good, Easy

Anki will manage when it'll show that card again for you based on your answers. You can see above the buttons when it will show next as your "daily exercise".
The more and more you get it "right", that is, you click anything that's not "Again", it'll show even less and less since you supposedly know that already.

Whew, that said, that Anki seems broken or badly configured, like other anons said, the font, and with that I can't help.

I'd recommend AnkiDroid (or it's iOS version) though, you can bring it anywhere since the point is doing the exercise everyday, without fail, until your brain gets hammered with the information.

It's also good for doing it while shiting or in the bed before sleeping.

>>143403671

Thanks. I guess I expected it to do more. I'll probably just get AnkiDroid instead of messing with fixing this.

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What does it mean /a/?

>>143404987
nothing

>>143404987
It means your battery is running out.

>>143404987
It means you are new so u don't have any mature cards, your retention on normal cards is pretty low and you fail more often on new cards than you get them right. You probably started last week or the week before I guess

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>>143404987

>>143403292
>he fell for the rice meme

What's the latest useful resource?

>>143400010
Her vocal range isn't what I was expecting and it's refreshing.

>証
Does this have any etymological connection to the akashic records?

>>143404987
Not him, but how do you read the lines in this graph?

>>143405879
you don't, they're nonsense

>>143400010
What's kinda cool too is that whoever did the colored link boxes in the beginning also matched the song beats...

>>143405357
ooooaah

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Fucking nips

>>143406948
>fuack
every time

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僕は日本語を勉強するのは興味がないのに勉強してる...どうして

今日の晩ご飯は
出汁で炊いたご飯に
こんにゃくを盛って食べた

和の心を感じる
これで日本人になれたのかな

>>143407477
それはいうまでもなくお前がどうしようもないゴミクズだからだ

自分がやりたいことをせずに
世間の目を意識して行動してるような輩が俺は嫌いだ

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まあ、いか

>>143405722
i highly doubt it
it comes from the 連用形 of 明かす

>>143407477
私は、彼氏のためにわ

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>>143408086
まあ

What Japanese TV shows should I watch?

>>143408312
boku no pico

>>143408312
Pokemon.

>>143408351
>>143408383
I mean normie TV shows not anime

>>143408245
おいしそう

>>143408312
I find 月曜から夜更かし and ホンマでっか amusing at least.

>>143408396
Yugioh.

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>>143408396
This might be the sort of thing you're looking for: >>132516870

Would you learn kansaiben if you had the chance?

>>143408560
あかん。なんで知りたいん？うちはなにもわかへんやで

>>143408559
>ウインドウズ十
バアアカ

>>143408560
I already speak half assed kansaiben because I lived in Osaka for a year, but I don't think I'd go all the way.

>>143408560
If I was a girl then hell yes I would

Male kansaiben a shit though

>>143408634
That's not Windows 10, it's Numix (a GNU/Linux theme).

I may move to Japan. My first name is clearly white, but my last name is Croatian, and when put into kana, sounds exactly like a real Japanese surname. How confusing might this be to people and how can I deal with it without taking an entirely new name?

>>143408312
ガキの使い

>>143408610
Can you tell me how kansaiben is different from regular Japanese? Are there any grammatical differences or just the pronunciation?

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>>143408560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIM4G-4kBA8

>>143408560
>studying japanese
>disregarding it's 弁

>>143408681
Girls would probably disagree with you.

>>143408773
Not that guy but both.
The intonation is different, they use some different words in some cases (本当－ほんま、駄目－あかん、面倒くさい－しんどう、あたし－うち to name a few) and they conjugate differently (へん　instead of ない etc.)

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>>143408803
何でやねん？あほか

>>143409077
Oops, that's supposed to be しんどい

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Can I get to N1 in 1-2 years?

>>143409077
I didn't know うち is kansai. I always see that word in Non Non Biyori.

>>143408610
おもろーやん
なんでや関西弁喋れるん？関西弁使う漫画ある？
>>143409322
It's used in many scenarios

>>143409277
In 2 years definitely
In 1 maybe but you might need to study specifically for the N1 with prep materials and such in that case. It might not be enough for you to just coast through

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>>143409104
お前あほやろ

>>143409111
I see しんどい in standard dialect stuff

from the second line of fate:

>心臓を串刺しにせんと繰り出される槍の穂先

what's せんと?

>>143409544
I have at least 1.5 years before I wanna study abroad so hopefully I can get to that level. It's just the level recommended by the unis to have before you take Japanese only classes, and I really don't wanna turn up there and just take only English classes

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>>143409554
何言ってんの、やつ。やかましい

>>143408803
デリケートとか

>>143409606
Probably しないと

>>143409606
>>143409935
It's actually a literary form of しようとする.

>>143409787
Which university?

Why the fuck are you guys even bothering learning japanese? To watch subpar anime without subtitles?

>>143410418
Because I can make fun of real life weeaboos who pretend to know Japanese now.

Is くそおいし correct?

>>143410418
Learning is fun!

>>143410484
No

>>143410529
What would be the proper way of telling someone "shit taste"?

>>143410541
中出しの喜び

>>143410418
to feel superior while watching subpar iroquoian indian smoke plays

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>>143410094
thanks. I'll read this explanation after taking a nap

>>143410475
>>143410527
>>143410583
I'm not gonna lie, these are all good reasons. Im surprised.

>>143410418
JAV

>>143410127
I don't know yet. Options are:
>Tokyo Metropolitan University
>Nagoya University of Foreign Studies
>Seijo University
>Kumamoto University
>Hakodate University

>>143410541
超ださい (usually about clothes or appearance)
センスがない (lit. to have no taste)
ありえない ("makes no sense", can be used about mostly anything)

http://wilsonjj.me/jptv/#openModal
So I can enjoy the story of the dismembered 88 year old lady

>>143410626
There's not really much of an explanation needed beyond that ん is an old volitional and is used in specific ways in modern japanese

In old japanese it is sometimes written む but still pronounced ん by people who read it in modern times

>>143410418
It started with playing machine translated VNs, to translating some via machine translation, to wanting to understand why they're the way the way they are. Also >>143410527

>>143410541
蓼食う虫も好き好き
十人十色

>>143410764
Don't give me that "different strokes" shit. My taste is objectively better than yours.

>>143410418
To impress people, to increase my self value, to get easier a job, to challenge myself and to read ecchi stuff
>>143410673
>Nagoya University of Foreign Studies
Met a Japanese who graduated from there. She was kinda like this university isn't so good. I heard there's a good university in Nagoya but I forgot the name. In general I wouldn't recommend to go to a university where they teach a lot of English because people want to talk in English to you and they are not so impressed of foreigners at they are at universities where people don't meet many foreigners or can't study abroad. Sounds pretty stupid but when you think about it you will probably aggree.

>>143410800
蓼食う虫ってのは
お前のことだ

>>143410684
>>143410764
どうもありがとう
I still have a long ways to go. I'm only just studying hirigana.

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>>143410658

>>143410703
It's pretty fucked how they play suspenseful music while discussing the murder.
Essentially making a fucking drama out of an actual live murder case.

>>143410626
It's from the grammar of classical Japanese, I'm not sure that explanation will help.

The verb 「する」 was originally 「す」 in classical Japanese. 「せん」 is 「す」 conjugated into the 未然形 「せ」, with the auxiliary intentional or speculative verb 「む」 appended to the end and then shortened to 「ん」. This makes it the equivalent of しよう in modern Japanese, roughly.

This is also the same 「せ」 that the form 「せず」 is derived from, which is still used in modern Japanese.

>>143410846
お前もな

>>143410813
It looks like most people from my uni went there. It probably had more classes in english, it being a foreign studies university. Yeah I really don't want to go to a place with a lot of english.

I was thinking maybe Seijo. It looks pretty good. Gonna really need to get better at Japanese though if I really want to take Japanese classes

Japanese kids are taught each kanji separately, right? In that case, how do they learn what kanji goes with what word?

>>143411100
They aren't, they're taught them through vocabulary.
Most kanji workbooks give you all the common readings of a kanji and then 3~5 words it's used in together with it.

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Whats the least offensive word you can translate 野郎 to? Not actually translating anything, but it's a topic I've wondered about on a couple of occasions. I guess it would probably be 'punk' or 'bastard', but it doesn't do the 'severity' of the word any justice. Or would it depend on context, so when a polite character suddenly uses it(think snake in SS) the translator should use an equally jarring word like 'motherfucker'?

Then again what if it's a word that the character likes to throw around a lot? That would reduce the seriousness a lot, I would think, so you would want to use a less vulgar word. But if people both in real life and the internet jokingly call each other fags and cunts constantly the 'severity' of the word is lost too, isn't it?

>>143402140
So I did the same thing but with ABBYY Finereader 12 (trial) and it works fine, you just have to manually correct what it highlights, and it's a lot less awful overall than tesseract. Thing is, it's not free and I don't want to pirate it. Anyone want to turn tobira to rikai-able text?

Example: http://pastebin.com/xPxFaVud

>>143411234
>野郎
cuck or weeb are enough to trigger the people reading the translation

>>143411234
the problem is there's just no equivalent in english

there's no word with quite the same intensity as 野郎 that isn't also considered a 'swear' word
and swear words are essentially taboo in many places where 野郎 could be used super freely

same thing with クソ
what do you do when a kids anime character yells クソ at the top of his lungs after stepping on a nail or something
you'd have to replace it with a euphemism in english, but that takes something away because it's not a really a euphemism in japanese

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>>143411234
Chap works

>>143411647
>there's no word with quite the same intensity as 野郎 that isn't also considered a 'swear' word
Bastard?

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>>143411593
Image of a random part of the book before correcting anything.

The problem with the trial version is you can only process 100 pages total and you can only save 3 pages per session.

In other words, the trial is nearly useless, except for verify that the OCR works somewhat wcorrectly.

>>143411780
There's a scan that straight? Cool,

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>>143411743
that's on the line, more severe than 野郎 in a lot of cases
definitely couldn't take a little girl in grade school calling everybody a バカ野郎 and replace any part of it with "bastard"

>>143411604
I'd use cunt, but cuck is good too

>>143411647
I wouldn't actually mind swear words being used more liberally in translations. I remember watching OPM last year and I felt kinda disappointed when the baseball dude calling the gay prison dude おかま was translated to 'pretty boy' or something mild like that instead of 'fag'. I'm 99% sure licensed translators have some sort of restriction on swear words, of course.

As for kuso, I think "OWWWWWW" or "ARGH" would work if translating for a family-friendly audience. Basically any english word/phrase that conveys the feeling of a mixture of pain and surprise would work.

Speaking of クソ, that's another hard word to translate. Translating クソ寒い冬休み to 'Fucking cold winter break" every single time the character says it is going to feel overboard very quickly. Yet something like "unbearably cold winter break" seems way too mild. A moderate translation would probably be "godforsakenly freezing winter break" but that sounds slightly awkward.

>>143411875
But little girls in grade school don't call everybody バカ野郎.

I guess if it were something she said often, I would use "dumbass" or "idiot"

But if she said it in an outburst of rage I would translate it to "dumb shit" or "retard" or maybe even "shit for brains" (笑)

>>143385599
Since you know (most of) the kanji already a lot of vocab is going to be pretty easy to learn. If you want to go fast, you can even do 70-80 words per day in core. Grammar is something you want to pick up from reading.

>what would you suggest are good to read?

http://nocozazal.co.nf/readinglist.html

There is a surprisingly large number of shared words between chinese and japanese, especially for business related and technical terms. I think the PR of China even adapted 共和国 and some related words into mandarin. Don't quote me on that though, it's something my friend told me.

> my friend has a japanese LN of monogatari and i have followed the anime.

I don't suggest reading monogatari right from the start. I actually did that a few months ago and despite being able to comprehend most of Nisio's writing quite well, I couldn't really enjoy it because the dialogue is somewhat parodical or referential. I don't really know how to put it into words, but it's something that I feel you would enjoy more after reading linear stories that are less 'meta'.

i like this profanity topic

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1467092666338.webm

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おっす、まめけたち。僕は2ヶ月だけ日本語を勉強してるのに手前らよりも優れてる..どうして？w今度僕は勝ちを取ってる。またね

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>小さなことで悩むけど、行動するときは直情的。興味とか衝動とか、そーいうJC熱のこもった１６P。
What does 16P mean here?

>>143412445
おめぇのままのまめをいじっているだけだからな

>>143412568
You know what 3p is? Make the link

>>143412568
ページ

I feel like I'm not improving at all. Will I ever be able to read an LN comfortably?

>>143412776
If you feel like you're stagnating, just go and pick up something hard and try and struggle through it. Alternatively you can up your new cards for today.

>Will I ever be able to read an LN comfortably?

Sure, but you have to try reading an LN first.

>>143412776
ううん

>>143412853
>Sure, but you have to try reading an LN first.
I try and read them all the time but always end up getting really lost

>>143412606
>>143412630
Thanks.

>>143412880
What LN did you read?

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>>143412949
Mainly these ones.

After thinking about it. I think the reason I get lost is because I skip over stuff I don't know too often instead of stopping to figure it out. I think

>>143413080
Maybe try reading easier stuff like knt

>>143413080
Hows Shinsekai? I was just browsing on Amazon because I was thinking of buying it

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Post something from what you're reading.

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>>143413452

>>143413180
I haven't really read much of it, but adaption is my favourite anime if that says anything

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>>143413452

>大船に乗ったつもり
>rest assured

Stupid idioms.

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おはようおにいちゃん

>>143413452
http://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000064/files/1857_18926.html

>>143414578
おやすみ

>>143414578
2deep4me

>漱石
口を漱ぐ用の石、という意味か

is hiragana really supposed to have 107 fucking things to memorize. Im using kana teacher

>>143415318
well there's only like 50 symbols, but if you're counting all the combined ones like びょ and みゃ then sure

might as well leave those off for later though, since you'll never see most of them and they're pretty obvious anyway

>>143415318
there are that many

most of them are just versions with diacritics or multiple characters for palatals/diphthongs though, there's only like 50ish truly unique base characters

>>143415318
You'll be looking back on your kana days with envy when you have 10,000 vocab in your mining deck

Or actually you won't because you would have maned the fuck up by the time you got that far

>>143415192
ふむふむなるほど
なら安倍の意味はなんだろう？

Never realised 必 had a funky stroke order, pretty fun to draw when you get used to it

>>143415376
>you'll never see most of them
What? How on earth did you reach that conclusion? it's like saying you'll never see the letter q in English.

>>143415397
倍の値段を取っても安い

>>143415553
no, it's like saying you'll never see the letter combination "qe" in an english word

i mean sure you might see something like ぴゃ written in hiragana at some point in your life but you have to admit it's not a common one

>>143415618
No it's not. Of course some of them are a bit rare, but most of them are pretty common.
You'll obviously see them less if you're reading texts without furigana though, but it's not as if you can do that right off the bat.

船で飛び込み自殺する時にすぐに浮かない様に持つ石だろ

>>143415618
Combination hiragana are common as fuck, you see them all the time, and need to understand how they work to understand everything about Japanese pronunciation and spelling

Can I get to N1 just from reading LNs. I'll also try to watch variety shows and stuff when I have a large enough vocabulary

>>143415716
Not just from LNs since there's a listening section, and the vocabulary they use is probably going to differ from what's common in LNs.

>>143415716
You mean can you take the JLPT and pass? You have to make sure you can also read short articles and answer comprehension questions for them in a timely manner.

>>143415716
If you stop being a 12 year old and read actual books too, sure.

Can anyone help me out with text hooking?

I'm running TA, but it just doesn't work right. It'll often skip over text and I have to re-copy it from the hooker to get it to display, like the system is lagging behind too much to capture in real time.

Is there an alternative that isn't bloated garbage? I don't need an AIO solution, I just need something that can take the text I'm already capturing fine and give me a nice Mecab-esque display with furigana.

>>143415752
Maybe I'm better off watching a lot of TV shows then? My listening is good when I know the words and they aren't speaking too fast but I don't usually understand everything.

>>143415763
I don't plan on taking the test anytime soon but I want to get to that level of comprehension

>>143415765
What are your favourite books anon

Welp, looks like I'm going to read tobira (even though I never finished tae kim) while I manually OCR most of it for you guys.

>>143415799
>What are your favourite books anon
not him but my favorite books are the chronicles of amber, and donnerjack, by roger zelazny

rate my taste

>>143415776
The JLPT focuses on business related vocabulary, so TV shows would be better than LNs, news/news related programs would be even better than that.
If you reach a certain level of proficiency it will be a lot easier to learn new vocab though, since you know the grammar. So you can probably read LNs till you get comfortable with the language.

>>143415822
Don't recognize any of those/10

>>143415834
Yeah, I guess I'll read what I can for now.
I got 206/400 on J-Cat a few months ago but I feel like it should be way lower

>>143415691
yeah i know they're common as fuck in general
what i'm getting at is after you know the symbols, you don't have to learn anything more than "ni" + "ya" = "nya"
to understand all the combination hiragana after that

>>143415799
Just read Soseki, I was surprised how simple Kokoro was. It's easier than the majority of VNs I read, probably because he makes short, concise sentences.

>>143415822
pulpsf/10

>>143415859
Oh well yeah that's true, it's stupid to consider them as separate symbols that's for sure

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>>143415861
>pulpsf/10
>amber
>pulp scifi

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>>143415894
who cares what genre your pulp is in
it's still pulp

>>143415926
Who is this cute boy with books on his head?

>>143415965
me

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>>143415965
あらきだとおもうよ。ジョジョのひと

あのんくん、にほんじんはみんなおなじかおにみえるの？

Is it possible to get the Japanese pronunciations of kanji from their Chinese words easily? Asking because I already know mandarin. From what I have observed the meanings are the same mostly so I only need the pronunciations

>>143416063
On-yomi are sometimes similar to the modern Standard Chinese readings but for the most part they were imported from Middle Chinese through Korean so no.

>>143416063
Yeah, I'm learning both though my Japanese is way better, and they're pretty similar.
Not everything is the same, and some signs are used completely differently, but very often you'll find that even the pronunciation is pretty similar, at least the onyomi.

>>143416063
do i look like i fucking know chinese

>>143416061
知らない人だから分からなかったよ。もちろん、日本人のことは見分ける。もう、いもうとのばか！

>>143416061
いや、彼はイケメンだから、全然日本人には見えない

>キメキメの格好
これどういう意味

>>143416607
さあな
まずはお前の人生の意味が何なのか理解すること
話はそれからだ

日本には、47の都道府県(一都、一道、二府、四十三県)があります。一都は東京都
(首都)、 一道は北海道、二府は大阪府と京都府で、その他は、静岡県や広島県のように
全部、県です。静岡県はお茶や富士山で有名で、広島県には戦争の恐ろしさと平和の大切
さを伝える原爆ドームがあります。

日本は南北に長い国なので、南と北では気候が大きく違い、沖縄や九州で泳げる時に、
北海道では雪が降っていることもあります。それから、同じ日の沖縄と北海道の気温の差
が摂氏40度以上になることもあります。だから、日本人が大好きな桜の花がいつ頃咲く
かは、場所によって違います。沖縄では1月の終わりに咲き始めますが、北海道では5月に
なってからです。桜の花が咲くと、人々はその木の下でお酒を飲んだり歌を歌ったりして、
花見を楽しみます。

日本には昔からの名所もたくさんあります。例えば、兵庫県にある姫路城は日本で最も
美しいと言われているお城で、1993年にユネスコの世界遺産に選ばれました。400年以上
前の白い壁が残っていて、建物の形が白鷺という白い鳥が羽を広げて休んでいるように見
えるので白鷺城(白露城)とも呼ばれています。姫路城は昔の映画やドラマを撮影する時に
よく使われています。

日本の名所と言えば、温泉も忘れることはできません。日本は火山が多いので、日本中
に温泉があります。温泉には観光やレジャーが自的で行く人が多く、温泉では大きいお風
呂に入ったり、おいしい料理を食べたり、浴衣を着たりしてリラックスします。日本人は
お風呂に入るのが大好きで、外の景色を見ながら入れる露天風呂は特に人気があります。

たくさんある温泉の中で、愛媛県松山市にある道後温泉は日本で一番古い温泉で、3000
年の歴史があると言われています。『坊っちゃん』や 『こころ』という小説を書いた夏目漱
石がよく行ったそうで、道後温泉にある旅館の3階には「捗っちゃんの間」という部屋が
あります。

皆さんは、日本に行ったらどんなことをしてみたいですか。どこに行ってみたいですか。
日本に行く前に日本の地理をよく調べて、楽しい旅行をして下さい。そして、お城を見学
したり、温泉に入ったりして、楽しい土産話を持って帰って下さい。

泳げる 気温 差 平和 日 伝える 京都 都/道/府/県 形 残って 選ばれ 美しい 人々 最も 建物 お酒 名所 見学 階 旅館 市 目的 特に 小説 観光

>mfw spent two hours on this

what is wrong with me

>>143416927
>what is wrong with me
You think that people care about your progress on an anonymous image board.

>>143416957
>implying

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>>143416927
２０びょうくらいだよ

だんだんはやくよめるようになるとおもうよ

がんばっておにいちゃん

>>143416721
クソゲーやって、クソラノベ読む
それこそ私の人生の、意義である

>>143416927
the fuck is this?

also what the fuck is the gibberish on the bottom line. The words you knew?

>>143416993
>took me at least 4 minutes
日本語なんてできない

>>143416927
長すぎ、読まない

>>143417064
It's edited OCR of part of tobira. The free OCR tools are such shit that I have to scan line by line and then manually fix several mistakes in each one. If I were fluid in japanese typing it would literally be faster just to type everything out.

>>143416993
>２０びょうくらいだよ
嘘！何故インターネットが欺くしているのか？糞女！

>>143417106
>tobira
that makes sense
It read like a JLPT passage but JLPT passaged would avoid using so many proper nouns that people might not know.

>>143417106
oh you're just the guy who hasn't even finished tae kim but is trying to OCR a shit textbook for no good reason

you made the post like it took you two hours to read that but you probably can't read it at all heh

if it took you two hours to "OCR" that then I highly doubt typing it out is the slower method here regardless of how fluid you are
IME is just romaji anyway

>>143417194
i can read it actually
ive been reading vns for years :^)

>>143417296
Whew

What is it that makes some things easier to read than others? Like why is Kino no Tabi so much easier to read than other LNs?

It doesn't seem like it's anymore limited in terms of expression than any other LN is, is the grammar and vocab it uses just not as showy?

>>143416927
Surprisingly easy. Did this come from a textbook?

>>143417769
better writing is simpler in structure for the ideas it expresses

>>143417826
yes

>>143417837
that just means it expresses simpler ideas buddy

>>143417920
nope
information!=ideas

>>143417769
-Run on sentences

-Variety of vocabulary used: A good writer can express "he was sad" or "he ran" in 30 different ways, a bad writer will just reuse a few set phrases

-Grammar used: Better writers use more obscure grammar structures to get the exact nuance and meaning they're gunning for. Not to say that some don't come off as pretentious

-Setting: Sci-fi and fantasy will obviously have long, descriptive paragraphs to depict the systems and structure of the world the author has thought up. Half the appeal of these genres are in that after all

-Dialogue: The more dialogue, the easier it is (most of the time at least)

>>143417769
I find short sentences make everything easy.

I find fucking classical literature like Soseki easier to read than moege VNs.

>>143417951
He's reading an LN not a fucking newspaper editorial

>>143417951
a mighty big statement for someone who just made the generalization that less information = better ideas

some well wielded structure adds another dimension to the ideas you can express
saying better writing is simpler is saying good writing can't be complex, which is bull

>>143418064
>less information = better ideas
nobody said that

learn English

>>143418002
Samefag.
>>143417969
>Better writers use more obscure grammar structures to get the exact nuance and meaning they're gunning for.
Good writers don't do this. Or does Asimov's awful prose make you horny?

About how far into studying did you guys try reading meanga, vn's etc?

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僕のおちんちんが長すぎる。

>>143418541
whole time, but kept it realistic (gave up for the day if i didn't really understand anything)

>>143418541
Too far

If you leave it too long your gains go down the drain, I learnt that the hard way, try to get into reading as soon as possible, it's going to be really hard no matter when you start, so might as well start and power through as early as you can, no point avoiding it

>>143418195
>better writing is simpler in structure for the ideas it expresses
you're clearly saying the ideas it expresses are the reason it is better here
therefore, better ideas

you equated "simpler structure" to "less information" yourself, i didn't even mention structure until then

so what you said was, "better writing has less information for the better ideas it expresses"

did i misinterpret you? feel free to write out something more clear

>>143418543
インターネットにいても嘘付くのがダメだよ。

>>143418541
about 6 months in, which was 2 months ago
at that point it wasn't taking hours to find out what something really meant if i had a hard time with it, so that was when i started my first LN
i could have probably tried harder and read something easy earlier though
i never really ended up reading past the first three volumes of yotsuba because it wasn't good practice for me anymore at 6 months

>>143415771
First post what VN you're reading and if your taste isn't shit I will tell you the secret to fixing your problem.

>>143408312
Downtown

>>143418649
>you're clearly saying the ideas it expresses are the reason it is better here
”for the ideas it expresses” means that what gets communicated is essentially the same, even though the skilled writer's text is simpler or shorter

>you equated "simpler structure" to "less information" yourself, i didn't even mention structure until then
more expression (e.g. ideas) in the same effort expended while reading is clearly a good thing. length and structure are just two particular variables tied to reading effort.

>so what you said was, "better writing has less information for the better ideas it expresses"

good writers don't magically embed ages of information into a few sentences. they just do better than worse writers.

people usually fall into a trap of thinking advanced = good but even a shitty writer can use advanced techniques and words if they're literate, just look at umineko's filler

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THIS DECK NEEDS A FUCKING TRIGGER WARNING

Can you even get a job with just JLPT and no higher education qualifications (uni degree)?

>>143418764
Just because I'm capturing text from a program, you assume it's a VN?

Sorry bud, I don't read trash.

>>143418819
>Wanting a job
Normies pls

>>143418841
How else would I get a pure Japanese maiden if I don't have a job?

>>143418835
死ね

>>143418861
>3DPD
REEEEEEE

>>143418252
>calling samefag when the 2 posts aren't even replying to the same post

>>143418912
He wasn't calling that post a samefag of that post.

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>>143418543
4 months in, tried yotsubato, got confused on the first page as i mistook yousuke for yotsuba's mother because if his rather.. effeminate face which contradicted youtsubas words

even complained here about it, was properly shat on and had to re-eval how i see drawn men with long hair
recently went back to it, just finished volume 2 and up to some part where they bought flowers from jumbo, struggled on his old man talking, yabadabadoo for all i know, ち-> しまおう i get tho

>>143418936
>had to re-eval how i see drawn men with long hair
笑う

>>143418935
Usually when you want to call out someone for being a samefag you link at least 2 of his posts because you can't samefag with one

>>143418959
Yeah but you can still accuse an unrelated post of samefagging.

urgh core gets annoying at the 2k mark

a lot of 下上聞 and shit variations..

>>143418976
Then what's the fucking point

>>143418991
Don't worry about them too much, they're much easier to learn while reading

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I'm glad core teaches me this kind of vocab when I haven't learned a lot of basic words yet...

>>143419006
>anon blows a hemorrhoid

>>143419047
anon core 5k

>>143418911
Go back to /jp/

>>143419177
Bitch I go where I want

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>原
>源
>発音は同じ
>形がまるで同じ
>意味はまるで同じ
日本なぜ？

>>143419377
>発音は同じ
They have completely different kun-yomi

Kanji with the same radicals having the same on-yomi is extremely common, and is actually incredibly useful since it means you can guess how kanji are read in jukugo based on their radicals alone

>形がまるで同じ
Except they have completely different shapes, learn radicals

>意味はまるで同じ
They mean completely different things

お世話になります。
お勧めは、何がオナホール事が足りる？
明日、を買い行きたい。

スピードが速いイメージがあります

Wht does this mean in regards to American roads? Is it saying the speed limits are high?

>>143419711
Yes, it means it's a high speed road.
>in regards to American roads
Why would you ever relate Japanese highway code to American roads? They're nothing alike.

>>143418541
Like 1 or 2 months in

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>>143419377
原の字は苗字につかうけど

名前につかってるのをほとんどみないよ

いっぽうで源の字は男の名前のほうにつかってるのをみかけるとおもうよ

おんなのこの名前につかったらいけない漢字だとおもうよ

ちょっといかめししゅぎゅる

When Mr. Tae Kim says some kana aren't used any more, when did they stop using them?

>>143420051
why cant u look it up urself

>>143420109
>u
>urself

Unable to do

>>143420216
k

みんなだ～いすき (◜ω◝)

Best anime of the season? Need some listening practice

Also bump

>>143421657
hero academia, flying witch, re:zero are all good

Can someone help me out with this?
>一人じゃ　もう
I'm guessing the 一人 is supposed to be a 'alone' making it all
>[I'm] so alone　again(?)
Though I'm unsure how the じゃ + the gap plays out here.

>>143421821
C O N T E X T
O
N
T
E
X
T

>>143421840
There's none as this is the caption of an image of a fuccboi.

>>143421865
The image is context

>>143421865
>image
That IS context, dumb nigger.

>>143421912
>>143421915
It's a irrelevant portrait of him looking confused.

>>143421942
If it's irrelevant you don't need the answer then.

>>143408560
I actually live in Osaka right now. I just moved back after being in the US for 2 years in med school. And anytime I'm outside of Osaka, people immediately recognize I live there, despite not using obvious things like "honmani" "-hen endings" etc. etc.

I think in generaly Kansai emphasizes the vowles more compared to Tokyo. Tokyo and standard dialect sound like computers talking to me with such heavy emphasis on the consonants.

>>143421968
That makes no sense. I meant the image has nothing to do with the line. The line isn't refering to anything in the image.

>>143421969
also daily reminder:
Osaka >>>>>>>>>>>Tokyo

>>143422002
How do you know if you're asking us what it means?

>>143422002
What is it referring to then? Why is it there? Do you think we have clairvoyance?

>>143421821
>一人じゃ
一人では
>もう
もう

>so alone
>so
lol

>again(?)
>again
lol

Where did you get the lol'd parts from?

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>>143422014
Well, that's kind of true

>>143422025
>>143422031
Because he regulary posts "quotes" (they aren't actually quotes, just random thoughts) with portraits of his fuckface.

>>143422034
>so
I felt it.

>もう
Can be already, again and more blablabla. Again seemed to make the most sense.

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>>143422087
Reconsider. Hint is in the picture.

And feeling is useless when you're clueless.

>>143421657
Space Patrol Luluco.

>>143422014
But Osaka doesn't have as much weeb shit!

>>143422087
Hint: Don't translate. Consider the concepts only and move on.

It means: 一人じゃ　もう
(alone) (then, is) (already)

>>143422186
i thought weebs like all nip shit no matter how boring
are my memes outdated

>>143422314
mou doesn't mean already here though.

Guys I'm having trouble memorising the Core2K deck.

Are there any methods for me to memorise better/faster rather then just repeating the word and hoping that I remember?

>>143422474
Yeah, reading.

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>>143422326
>i thought weebs like all nip shit
Nah, most weebs are just in it for the animu girls and tourist areas of Tokyo. Why do you think Akibahara has the most maid cafes in the country?

>>143422567
True weebs get that warm fuzzy feeling inside just from hearing the word "Japan"

Damn pretty slow in here today, I hope it's because everyone's busy studying

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>>143422594
weeb has become a rather broad insult online recently
it seems if you touch apon anything related to japan you've caught it

the CDC needs to get their shit together on this

>game is 16 hours long according to EGS
>check my time tracker
>logged 18 hours into it so far
>only 6 of the 20~ CGs unlocked

o-oh okay...

>>143422343
It arguably means "already" even when it means "jeez" and it probably does mean already there

>>143422151
fuck off mouth breather

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>>143426868
what

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>死に装束
>clothes worn to commit suicide

>>143427404
和光同塵

>>143400010
Hope you know I've been watching this non stop all day, thanks a lot bitch, wasting all my reading time

鏖

>>143401778
>It can be good for stuff like 四字熟語.
Best 四字 song coming through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTOckbE6BTQ

>>143423670
it's because I'm on vacation and usually post 50-100 posts/thread. back in 10 days

>>143421657
jojo

>>143421657
Macross is the best.
Tanaka and Sansha Sanyou are great, Haifuri is fun but nautical terminology is hard to follow when it comes up.

>>143428925
Jesus christ

How many 四字熟語 does the average jap even know? I mean some of them are pretty normal but a lot of them just seem so random

>>143429909
at least 7

>>143429979
お、恐ろしい･･･

あらアノンさんやさしいですこと

>>143430215
ふぁっくオフ

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Sometimes there are works of fiction where you feel that the author has honed his skills for his entire life just to bring that story to reality. I felt it with Tolstoy’s “War & Peace”, got a glimpse of it in Dostoevsky’s “Crime & Punishment” and got completely overwhelmed by it in Full Metal Daemon Muramasa. From the authentic-sounding ancient Japanese prose, to a meticulously constructed alternate history of early 20th century and carefully researched martial arts of real samurai; you simply can’t make a story so vast and this profound unless you sacrifice majority of your life researching and contemplating the subject matter. Muramasa is a masterpiece, and it sends shivers down my spine just imagining what Narahara Ittetsu, a certified master of ancient Japanese martial arts and by no means a professional writer, had to go through to bring this grand work to life.

>>143429909
They learn them in school and have tests on them so I imagine a lot.

>>143430926
Damn, fair enough

>>143428718
皆殺

>>143431323
Holy shit I never would have guessed that one

Next tell me about 掌

>>143431357
手の腹

>>143431397
マインドブロウン

>>143428718
鏖殺

>>143431357
たなごころ obviously
てのひら can suck a dick

>>143431519
They just always have to oneup themselves don't they

>>143431547
鱮頃

Are we posting these?
軛
娶る
恣
快い
承る
腥い
志
政

嫌中憎韓
嫌韓
眼球舐め
邯鄲の歩み
轍鮒
仏倒し
蛙の面に小便
プリン頭
朝マラの立たぬ男に金貸すな
畑水練
狆がくしゃみをしたよう
辻斬り
壷洗い
盗伐
斬り捨て御免
切り得
取り殺す
五分試し
厭魅
矯角殺牛
狡兎死して走狗烹らる
四当五落
天下り
屍山血河
八つ裂き

>>143432092
here's one i learned from my anime book
鳶に油揚げをさらわれる

>>143432092
Why does it switch to random normal words after a while?

触らぬ神に祟りなし
a useful one

In the phrase 掛かって来い that is often translated as "bring it on", which of its many meanings does 掛かる take?

>>143432270
It means かかる just like it always does

>>143432290
Thanks, I dont know what id do without you /djt/

>>143432270
https://kotobank.jp/jeword/掛かる
#12 here
haha bet you feel stupid now
it really does just mean かかる though, go read a book or something