rori?

>>143359471
he's much too young for mai

>>143359471

He's reminded of what he lost.

>>143359864
why would she get an upcoming episode if she's dead?

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don't talk to me or me ever again

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>>143360474
it's safe to say young trunks is going to want to train to become relevant now?

i know the "cool club" meme is that goku blacked is goten and that's why he chichi wont let him run off, but think about the reprocussions of goten seeing a bigger better dad

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I really like this pairing and how pissed off it makes people

>>143360474
Kek

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>>143360854
forbidden love is best love

>>143360774
Ending of Z makes Trunks and Goten losers no matter what happens in Super.

>>143361250
>NTR'd by your own future self
is this the ultimate in betrayal?

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>>143360854
>All those buttblasted PanxTrunks shippers

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>>143361431
I've been waiting for this

>>143361577
You could have used Mirai Nikki instead faggot.

>>143360854
>>143359471

Wait,so both are pedophiles?

>>143359471
>>143360474
Why is his hair blue?

>Bulma realizes her son gets together with someone older than her.

Ain't that some shit

>>143361670
Isn't time travel the shit like that?

>>143361659
alternate universe

>>143361700
Not even that

Mai was older than Bulma when introduced in DB so her son is into old as fuck women at every age.

>>143361791
Does it matter if she looks like a little girl?

For whatever reason Mai was the biggest victim of quality this episode, anyone able to back me up on that?

>>143361843
Same age mentally

>>143360152
Flashback. What are you? 12?

>>143361701
Nope

It's just a retcon

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>>143361659

TRUNK'S HAIR IS NOT BLUE, AND IT SERIOUSLY CAUSE SENSORY OVERLOADS IN ME!!! TOEI NEEDS TO RECALL EVERYTHING DRAGON BALL SUPER AND CHANGE TRUNK'S HAIR COLOUR BACK IMMEDIATELY!!!

FOLLOW ME IN BOYCOTTING DRAGON BALL SUPER, UNTIL TOEI WISES UP, RECALLS EVERYTHING AND CHANGES HIS HAIR COLOUR BACK, NOW!!!

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>>143361659
A lot of people have hair that changes color during puberty. My brother used to have blond hair, but it's now light brown; my hair is also a bit darker than it was when I was a kid.

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>>143359471

>yfw Beerus from Trunks timeline chases Black to this timeline and we get a Beerus vs Beerus battle

>>143361859
As in normal quality or "QUALITY"?

Because you can see they injected a fuckload of actual quality into that frame in >>143359471

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>>143362476
>pilaf gang seriously acts like a bunch of kids now

brainwashed by dragonballz

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>>143359471
>>143362476

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>>143361343
>Z

glad thst shit is no longer canon

>>143361659
so you can tell them apart

>>143361701
>>143361981
neither

it's how toriyama always seen it

You guys are fucked up. Now I can't stop imagining future trunks fucking that (not) little girl and making her addicted to his cock.

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>>143363848
don't worry

trunks wont ever get his quick little saiyajin fingers on her

>>143364099
Cucku

>>143360854
>liking this pairing

Can we talk seriously here about how badly written it truly is?
Mai wasn't supposed to be shipped with anyone. Her character simply doesn't feel right being part of any romance. It is like bringing an Amish to the Silicon Valley or watching hentai with your mother. Pairing her with Trunks makes zero sense and they made it even worse by having her alt.future self also be together with him too. Toei was right when they removed the romance angle from Super, but Toriyama had to go full shipping mode and force it down our throats. I don't like it when people say Toriyama is a senile old man, but can I really blame them now?

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>>143364099
who /JUSTICE/ here

>>143364339
>not watching hentai with your mother

>>143361942
Her mental age is that of a child since the original Dragon Ball, just like Shu and Pilaf. Shenron only gave Mai, Shu and Pilaf a more appropriate biological age.

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>>143361619
Or this.

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>>143364339
>can i blame them

you wanted mai to have 0 character development since dragonball? is that what you are implying here?

>>143364339
Romance in real life doesn't make any sense. But trunks has always been my favorite character, and i have to say it makes the plot alot more entertaining. Plus, i think it gives the character motivation. Goku just likes being strong, Vegeta just wants to beat Goku, and now Trunks not only wants to protect his friends and prevent his fucked up future, but to save his love. He's like the only character whos shown any romantic feelings. I think its a good change of pace.

>>143364596
>the only character shown romantically

gohan forgotten again

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>>143364674
Gohan's just boring. He was entertaining fighting boo, but I was bored when he was fighting cell because of his whole "I hate fighting" thing.

>>143364674
Whohan?

>>143364536
I just don't like this development. In my eyes Mai is just a part of the whole that is the Pilaf Gang. Seeing her like we saw with Future Trunks is just weird. It is fine when it is just a joke like in the first movie, but they are taking this a little too far. I cannot believe they are actually going to dedicate one episode to this.

>>143364863

I wonder if people thought the same thing when Chi-Chi was introduced in Dragon Ball, or when Videl appeared in Z.

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>>143364863
>I just don't like this development.
And i do
It will be interesting to see her grow beyond just being part of the Pilaf gang. I'll be looking forward to the episode to see what they will do with it

>>143364863
>In my eyes Mai is just a part of the whole that is the Pilaf Gang
All this considering, it's quite possible they'll end up married at some point, so it you probably should start to update your views on her from now on.

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>>143364863
so you wantes her to be mostly irrelevant? why? why isn't trunks allowed to have a gf?

>>143365491

He had a GF only so Black could kill her. Because Trunks exists for suffering.

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Future Mai was pregnant too

>Future Trunks isn't Buu levels of powerlevels in a setting where Vegeta and Goku are literally godlike
Also, where the hell is the Supreme Kai in all of this? He warned Trunks about Buu, but he didn't warn him of Evil Kai-dressed Goku Black?

>>143362821
Actually they always acted like kids. Now they just became real ones.

>>143365643

>The Kai's are selfish pricks that won't bother helping out Trunks when he needs it

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>>143365643
>Supreme Kai
Now that you mention him.. If F Trunks knows him. Wouldn't he be able to help Trunks?
With his Instantaneous Movement . Finding new Namek should not be a problem

>>143365773
I guess so

>>143360474
Has Future Trunks met Goten yet?

>>143365363
>Black's True Identity
They pretty much spoiled the plot by telling the audience that Black isn't the Goku of Trunk's Timeline.

>>143365974
Doesn't matter. We already know who is Black.
His name is JOHN CENA.

>>143364863
Maybe Mai wants to settle down and not live by your rules, Stalin. I bet when you talk to your friends you joke around with you get pissed off when they decide to get married and you're like WHAT THE FUCK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BUDS WHY DID YOU GET HITCHD THAT IS TOTALLY NOT YOUR PERSONALITY OUR FRIENDSHIP IS DROPPED

In before fiction != reality, but then you should wonder then why the fiction is getting you all bent up in the first place and what you're doing with your life.

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>>143365564
C-Can you really get a girl pregnant just by holding hands?

>>143366785
DELETE THIS.
Future Trunks is a piece of shit for not protecting her. Fucking useless time traveller halfbreed.

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>>143366785
you never know what can happen by doing such lewd things

>>143366785

They kissed.

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Too bad we won't get to see both versions of Mai interact

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>>143367771
islt's not really too late to wish her back is it? that many days shouldn't pass that quick in one arc

>>143368077
Don't they have ultimate omega shenron or something that isnt bound by anything?

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>>143365643
maybe that green kai is their supreme kai

main timeline supreme kai is quiet but so is king kai

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>>143368077
It's not. They have time.
Still. even if she is wished back.. I don't think she'll get to travel to the past and meet present Mai

>>143362887
Why are these 3 allowed to run around Capsule Corp plotting stuff right in front of Bulma and the entire crew?

Goku and Bulma surely recognize PILAF the guy who tried to kill them every episode when they were kids, standing right next to them, right?

>>143363304
dafuk thats some quality. my nostalgia doesnt let me remember it this way

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>>143368186
basically, but how would they get them and make a wish without whis to protect them?

>>143368612
This scene was so badly animated

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>>143368679
that's ironically what made it so good

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>>143368528
>surely recognize
Not too sure about that. it was long ago
Besides. compared to other villains. They are pretty harmless. Even moreso now as kids.

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>>143368528
bulma was the first person to try and kill goku

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>>143366887
>implying vegetable wouldn't have jobbed
>implying he didn't job in that timeline already

>>143365903
No and they are probably gonna BS some reason why him and Gohan can't meet trunks

>>143368528

At this point they know more people that's tried to kill one another than otherwise.

People that have tried or wanted to kill Goku and is now part of the group

Bulma
That pig
Yamcha
You can probably count the cat too
Pilaf gang
Tenshinhan
Piccolo
Vegeta

Those who haven't

Master roshi
Chichi
Ox king
Krillin

>>143369531
Vegeta jobs so much even his son is a jobber.

>>143369273
so he really is the good guy here still

>>143369621
they already confirmed ftrunks and gohan will meet in the episode list

bulma still qt pie at 60 years old.>>143369273

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>>143363304
According to Toriyama, it's still canon

>>143372533
source

>>143369621
Gohan's in the episode list.

Goten, however, seems to be on his way to being Gohan 2.0 without doing anything that made Gohan good.

>>143365709
manchild =/= child

>>143365903
Goten knows of Future Trunks, but the latter hasn't seen him yet.

>>143370502
>son is a jobber
>soloed the Buu Arc

Okay, Anon.

>>143359471
>rori?

You know I don't even care about the Trunks X Mai shipping shit that DBS is doing, if they actually gave half a shit to give Goten something to do too. Even this subplot about Chichi getting him an education could have at least given us some throwaway scenes with Trunks, Goten and the Pilaf gang in school. I get that Goten character is basically pointless now, outside Fusion, but at least show him hanging out with his brother and step-sister and new niece, if you're going to go as far as excluding him from the few scenes his friend is getting.

>>143373474

But he played on Normal mode with continue. You only fight Buu in Extreme mode without continue.

>>143372869
>>143372533
>>143363304
the Toriyama/Toyotaro interview revealed that they want the story to match the Epilogue of Z. Noting that Toyo would make Tori look smart the better it matches up.

>>143360854

why is japan promoting pedophilia. this is sick. there's no way a 30+ yr old x 12 yr old pairing would work

>>143373634
she's like 50 dipshit.

>>143373634
>>143373677

But she literally has a mentality of a child.. Like, she has zero experience in hand-holding.

don't even bother replying to this post

>>143373677

that's fucking worse

>>143373590
To be honest, I'd rather they just retcon it the same way they did everything else. Why would Goku care about training the reincarnation of someone whose power level is irrelevant after the events of Super.

>>143373677
>50 year old with a 12 year old child
that's so much better

>>143360854
It's by far the funniest pairing Toriyama ever came up which means it's also the best one.

Cut Future Trunks some slack. He had no one to train with in his timeline.

>>143373896
Uub's powerlevel at the tournament now scales with Goku's in super.
Uub is gotenks ssj3 tier at this point.
Powerlevels are just dumb.

>>143362821
Look at that empty fucking stare. He's trying to smile, he knows he should be happy, but he can't hide how dead he is on the inside.

This is "It bothers me" all over again.

>>143359864
>His mom
>His waifu
>His protectorate
>His gains

This poor fucking guy needs a hug. The suffering train never stopped.

>cities in the future is still under maintenance, probably from Dabura's shenanigan
>black dropped by to cause more doom and gloom

Those folks in the future just can't catch a break, can they?

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I hope Black slaps an earring on Vegeta. SSB Vegito would be some shit.

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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who prefer the eng dub / OST

i mean, its a good replacement, but it cant beat the jap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1seVzmeM-8

>>143373896
>>>143373590
> Why would Goku care about training the reincarnation of someone whose power level is irrelevant after the events of Super.

That's likely going to be the entire point of DBS: Goku becoming impossibly strong and coming to realize that he'll have to stop fighting some day. Throughout Super they've been building to this with the SoL episodes where Goku is either being reminded of his age and other responsibilities, be it Vegeta chiding him for acting childish, despite his age, Piccolo or Kuririn harping on old days, Chichi bitching about him not setting a good example for his grandkid or Goku himself feeling like an old man finally, when his ki control went out of whack, after being reckless with his body. After this arc and maybe one more Goku will likely start pining for a student of his own to teach, after the omni-king's tourney, even if it's under the guise of his usual selfish need of facing a potentially strong opponent that he reared himself. The little scene with him gauging Future Trunks' strength could play into the DB- Epilogue Goku's narrative with Uub, since I find the idea of Goku and Vegeta just training and chasing Beerus/Champa/Whis/Backs forever just as shitty as the original epilogue go DB. To me, Goku finally settling down and wishing to be a teacher with students of his own after literally challenging the best from 11 other universes, should be a big enough adventure that you could have in the 10 year span before the epilogue, which DBS takes place in.

Im still confused as to why trunks doesn't have a tail but gohan did.
No way a proud to be sayain man such as vageta would cut off the tail of his son. Someone explain please

>>143374659
it's arguably a recessive gene.
Afterall, in U6 Cabba evolved out of having tails.

>>143374685
Wasn't that because they never destroyed planets and their population of people for resources?
Trunks isn't even far off the family tree of sayains like pam is or good forbid i bring up GT but the little jobbers from the last gt movie. I think it's weird this was never answered, atleast i don't think it was

Can we kill off Chichi at this point?

She's such a massive fucking bitch.

>>143366785
>cum on hands
>hold hands with girl that is into you
>have her fap right away

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>>143374284
That would single handedly redeem the entirety of super! Which is why it won't happen.

>>143375014
If this arc is supposed to mirror the original Android Saga you best believe Gohan is going to get some development.

>>143364764
>but I was bored when he was fighting cell because of his whole "I hate fighting" thing.

That was hardly even present throughout the entire fight except for the very beginning.

>>143375282
I do what I want, anon

>everyone Trunks knows and loves is dead
I'd say that's a good reason to get him into the Time Patrol, except Bulma's still alive and kicking in that setting, so yeah

How will they cram more suffering into this nigga's life?

>>143374284
>>143374991
I actually would like Black to use the potara on Goku so they fuse together (While still staying evil) and it leads to a fight like Goku vs Vegeta in the first arc of Z but with Goku being evil and Vegetable good now

What if loli Mai still picks current Trunks?

>>143364339
I don't understand why this particular pairing get people so assblasted, did people get this upset over Bulma and Vegeta? Cause that was way more out of the left field than this - at least Toriyama is trying to explain it

>>143369273
>tfw you're about to get BLACKED

>>143375533
He goes back to his own timeline after the Multiverse tournament, stronger and ready to rebuild Earth(again) only to come back and find that the remaining population has committed suicide out of despair. He'll be all alone on his shitty earth, and no-one to share it with.

Can someone tell me what "jobber" means?

>>143376257

>>143376257
a character trope where it's sole purpose is to fail or lose.
Example: Yamcha jobbed to a fucking Saibaiman.

>>143375700
A better question, why would she pick future Trunks?
>Current Trunks has money
>Is a bit bratty but he's does grow out of it
>Is still strong enough to take out 95% of threats himself even without being as strong as future Trunks
>Easy access to Goku and Vegeta for that 5% of threats
>Grows up to be just as handsome as future Trunks
>Don't have to deal with life being misery all the time

I don't see a downside to staying with current Trunks.

>>143376290
Thank you

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>>143359471
Ruri?

>>143376257
A character that exists to lose in order to make other characters look strong. It comes from wrestling.

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>>143376361
Is this an arc v thread now?

>>143373575
>Trunks played on normal mode and won easily
>Z fighters played on ultra-retard mode and made life for themselves more difficult

Trunks is clearly the best

>>143375533
Make him literally saiyan guts

>>143374659

gohan cut it off.

there you go.

>>143376394

>bring back ed and asuka
>no judai

>>143375533
Zeno destroys the created timelines.

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>>143376564
>tfw you will never motorboat asuka's tits
Why live?

>>143368528
They never could possibly do anything competently. Having them around must be nostalgic for them. Like having your racist grandfather at a family gathering saying inappropriate things to your ethnic friend. You can't help by enjoy the humor in it.

>>143376564
>Zexal's main character doesn't appear
>GX's main character doesn't appear
>5D's main character doesn't appear

Everybody but the main protagonist has a shot at joining the arc-v train, apparently

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>>143376427
Of course

What happened to desustoage?

>>143370188
You forgot buu.

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>>143374222
and he won't be able to avenge them himself. Has to ask Goku and his dad to do it

>>143376829
>can't even jump off of a bridge to end it all, he'd have to fly to space

guys I saw this thing on reddit and it actually makes sense so hold up

the gods are meant to give life to planets and destroy them, but thats been fucked by time travel, what if black is a byproduct of things not being destroyed so he can destroy them by manifesting as someone people would immediately recognize?

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>>143374222
His a polite guy

Seriously even for his dead mother his willing to die.

>>143376941
I wonder how it'll feel for him to see the kind of little prat his current self is

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>>143376885
Not to mention. He has to travel back to the future first. In the present. They'll just wish him back.

Why didn't Goku go Blue?

>>143377096
because Goku likes to fight

What the fuck is Pilaf anyway?

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>>143374231
Androids destroyed shit for a long time
Dabura shows up next
and Black after that

It's no wonder humanity is almost extinct there now

>>143377187
See crono trigger

>>143376977
If anything, probably a bit jealous that in this timeline that he can grow up as a normal kid. I imagine he'd be happy too, I mean he worked for this timeline where this version of himself can be a bratty, normal child with 2 parents who love him, a safe place to sleep and a ton of friends.

>>143377193
not to mention that Trunks has been fighting Black for one year.

Trunks got weaker due to ki consumption while black just got stronger and stronger everytime they fight/

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>>143377358
and the lack of proper food didn't help either

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Nanastu no Taizai chapter is out, too lazy to make a thread.

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>>143365564
>Future Mai was pregnant too
Those sudden food cravings

But that would just be too cruel to F Trunks to happen...right?

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>>143377529
Not cruel enough. I fully expect her to have been pregnant.

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>>143377529
Thinking about it.

Black didn't start about the whole "last of the saiyan race" until after he killed F Mai

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>>143377529
>>143377651
>>143377551
DELETE THIS

>>143377651
He also didn't talk to mirai trunks until he started the whole "last of the saiyan race" thing, too

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>>143359471
Its true love!

What's with chinks and their hand holding obsession?

Seems like it has a similar stigma as people here going in dry without protection.

>>143377948
They really like PDA because they're so technology adept

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So since the manga came out with a totally different type of battle than the anime only to yield the same results, which is canon? Also in the manga Whis's explination was kind of stupid. All he said was Goku transformed to surpass Hit's powerlevel.
Why did they write it to make it seem so vague?

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>>143368612
>>143368766

Jesus christ, Toei. How the fuck do you even get this lazy? I'm not expecting anything grand either regarding animation and I assume it gets tiring working on the animation from time to time, but this is a whole new low.

>>143378431
by out sourcing, they can't produce the show fast enough and the Philippines are cheaper.

i like how goku smashes him into the ground then asks if he's okay immediately afterwards

>>143378499
it was a ssj3 love tap

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>>143378499
savage goku is best goku

>>143361626
It's ok then

So how strong is f.trunks supposed to be.
He could match goku in his ssj 2 form and goku could match beerus in his ssj form.
So is he like close to being god tier now or am I just thinking too hard?

>>143362507
This needs to happen

>>143376664
theproblem in babidi saga is kaioshin, he said to not interfere in Gohan's fight with kibito

Why doesnt Trunks just shoot Goku black with a laser pistol?

>>143376674
>the site is down, use 4chan, desus is just copy

>>143374659
Probably bulma or her dad cut it off. vegeta bitched about it but since he also lost his tail ,bulma won in the end.
The main thing I wanna now is why did gohan grow His tail back again while other didn't grow it.

Gt seems to answer a bit but too bad its non-canon

>>143379166

No laser pistols in the future, only cat food.

Mai is by far the prettiest girl in DB

>>143379784

She's not a raving beauty. And yet that makes her far more beautiful then most of the rest. Simplicity is a beauty all of its own.

>>143376427

The whole Cell saga is actually just everyone everyone except Trunks picking the options for the optional superboss.

>>143379784
it is the hime cut man and the concentrated pureness.

>>143360474
Shouldn't they be merging Time Cop style?

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Why don't they just make Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Future Trunks all Gods as well?

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Figured out who is controlling Black

>>143373474
>failed the Android arc
>lowered the difficulty and played Cell on easy, skipped the tournament arc, and then played Buu arc on Very Easy

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>>143360854
Likewise

>>143378134
What's with Gine's face?
She was designed and drawn by Toriyama, right? How come I can't immediately associate her with a Dragon Quest or Dr. Slump character?

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Am i the only one who's impressed by trunks's strenght?

I mean, he was able to push back SSJ 2 goku while SSJ3 gotenks couldn't do shit against base vegeta's clone.

Beerus was also impressed by him.

Is he close to a god's level?

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>>143380292
Base Vegeta is still super strong, especially after all that training with Whis devoted specifically to strengthening his base. Trunks needs more practice to reach that kind of level.

>>143380347
So you're telling me that SSJ3 gotenks is stronger than super saiyan goku? Than ssj2 goku too?

>>143380347

kek so that's why they changed the name.

>>143379653
I don't think gohan grew his tail back

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>>143380328
I am afraid he would slack off like gohan but good thing he didn't and not only that he reached ssj2 he also beat dabura.

I can understand why beerus would praised him

>>143360854
This pairing is only reason I keep tabs on Super.

>>143380389
>>143360854
>kek

Fuck off

>>143365363
>Gohan and Future Trunks
Christ. Fusion shenanigans?

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>>143359471
I wonder what episode 51 is gonna be since it was titled about mai and all

>>143381102

Extended flashback of Future Mai. Future Trunks telling Loli Mai about her. Telling Present Trunks to look after her.

Calling it now.

>>143381102

honestly, i also want to know, but only thing i can be sure is that it's tied to future mai...

revive her? is that even possible?

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>>143378134
Does there exist a better dragonball waifu?

>>143381102
i am more interested why after that is future trunks meeting gohan

probably Ftrunks sob talk about how he was no strong enough to protect he cared for and hope gohan doesn't do the same mistake

>>143364339
Actually the real issue here is that Mai should be an old granny in that timeline

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Now, it is factual that the Omni-King will be in this sage, it was announced

So considering this

>universe 6 is split into two timelines due to messing with time
>the Omni-King hears of this
>he also hears that Beerus did nothing about it
>he appears before the main characters
>he tells them that two versions of the same universe cannot exist and one has to go
>they are forced to pick one timeline and let the other be destroyed
>current timeline is obviously picked
>the fucking Omni-King proceeds to wipe out of existance the future timeline in a blink
>Future Trunks has no home anymore

>>143361659
My hair was bright blonde as a kid, and gradually went brown while 11-15

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>>143381294
This. And there are no dragon balls to wish for youth in that time line, so the odds of it happening are slim to none.

>>143381408
err meant universe 7, I keep getting them mixed up

>>143381408
time patrol trunks soon

>>143381408
The sad thing is that this will likely happen

Why does one character have to suffer so much?

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Black Goku is actually Goten right?

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>>143381625
No. Goku died before he impregnated Chi-Chi.

>>143381682

but goku black can travel between timelines. we know there's at least 3 timelines. so there could conceivably a 4th timeline in which goku survived and fathered goten who was able to gain the ring at a later date and travel to FT timeline

>>143381682
Prove it
If anything Chichi should have been fit to burst during Cell for any of the ages to match up.

>>143381682
Pretty sure chichi was knocked up the first night he set foot back on earth.

And even if that wasn't the case, this is Toriyama. He probably just forgot about the androids or heart disease

>>143381408
>Black Goku is actually winning
>he's on the brink of destroying the main characters
>Omni-King appears out of nowhere
>''lol get erased''
>Black Goku is erased from existance
>this is how the saga ends

>>143381842

you forgetting about zamasu.... -.-

>>143361431
I am fully erect now.

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>>143381727
Possible, but unlikely. Black calling Trunks a saiyan was the final nail in of coffin for the Goten Theory imo.

>>143381871
It hurts it but it can still work if he identifies as human and curses his heritage or something like that. Not sure they'll have the balls though, but the episode title does suggest it's supposed to be a twist.

>>143381797
I can't.

But what I can do is infer the obvious. Why would Gohan not train Goten along with Trunks against the androids? Why would he not be brought up even once?

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>when they reveal that this trunks isn't actually trunks, but is trunks and mai's child from the future

>>143381865
what?

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When is he showing up?

>>143360854
Who hates this pairing in the first place? AT's approach to romance has always been half assed. And why does DB even have that shipping bullshit anyway? This is the last series that I expected to have shipperfags.

>>143381934
Trying to keep the Goku lookalike out of the androids radar. Or he got sent away or something like that.
>Dragonball being consistent

>>143381951

you know that green kai in the OP what is his role in everything,

>expect serious discussions of the plot
>people talking lewd instead

why do I even come here? fuck you /a/, even /v/ has better DBZ threads

>>143381981
No it doesn't.

>>143381981

lol look at the thread title... what do you expect faggot?

>>143381962
Not "canon".

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>>143381912
I think that might be grasping at something that isn't there. I think someone is using Goku's appearance and that's it. As boring as it sounds.

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>>143374991
What the fuck? When I look at this vegeta picture sideways he looks like a fucking caveman with that forehead.

>>143382011
Just like the rest of Super?

>>143382105
Honesty, canon, just like everything in the franchise, is inconsistent.

>>143382105

lol GT fag....

>>143382130
I don't like GT, never have. But the Super anime isn't canon.

Jesus, why is that always the argument in these threads?

>You said something I don't agree with so you like GT XD

>>143382180
Who are you dictating what's canon, or not?

>>143382180
How isn't Super canon?

>>143382237
And who are you to say it is? No one has actually said it is or isn't, officially. The only reason people say it is is because it uses Toriyama's idea's as a reference, which in that case makes the manga more canon since he is much more directly involved in that.

>>143382266
Who the fuck cares, saying something you don't like isn't "canon" is just sad.

>>143382355
But I do like it?

>>143382266
> No one has actually said it is or isn't, officially

So they why are you saying it isn't canon?

Fucking retard

>>143382365
Alright, what exactly does it need to be considered "canon" in your mind.

>>143382266
>No one has actually said it is or isn't, officially

Then why are you saying that the anime isn't canon?

>>143382424
>So they why are you saying it isn't canon?

So why are you saying it is canon?

Fucking retard.

>>143382438
And again, why are you saying it is?

Again, if it's because Toriyama is involved then that's a stupid reason because he is much more involved with the manga that is much closer to his idea for the series.

>>143382438
>>143382424
Are you saying it is? Because if you are that's just as bad.

>>143382435
Well what makes the original Dragon Ball manga canon over the anime? It was written by Toriyama.

What makes people say DBO is canon? All of the story ideas were by Toriyama.

So what would make the most sense to be canon here? The anime series that is filled with filler that have nothing to do with Toriyama, along with taking liberties (Like SSBK) that also aren't by Toriyama, or the manga that is written by Toriyama's new best friend that he directly overseas and discusses ideas with?

It's not rocket science.

Why is Trunks skinny again?

>>143382522
You just came out and said "it isn't canon." I didn't once say it was you fucking autist. You are just trying to piss people off with obvious bait. Fuck out of here.

>>143382548
No I am not. Hence was post above me is filled with retardation

>>143382605
Mai sucked out all his gains

>>143382662
future mai was probably kinda shredded under her coat

>>143382632
>le bait

I legitimately see no reason to believe that the anime is canon. If you think I'm a retard for thinking that it's not canon, then the natural conclusion would be that you disagree with my thoughts on it's canonicity status, meaning you think it's canon.

Why am I the one baiting? The one that's actually giving my reasons and explaining why I don't think the anime is canon compared to the manga, not you bunch who are just screaming "RETARD U DONT KNO WHATS CANON OR NOT"

Goten was born the same year as the cell saga, which is the same year Goku died in the future. So Future Goten is a possibility, though its odd that Gohan and Trunks never mentioned him.

>>143382808
What? Goten wasn't born until after the cell saga. Also Goku died in the future not too long after Frieza came to earth. If Goten existed in that timeline, he would have been mentioned by noe.

>>143382747
The Dragon Ball Super anime has been more consistent then the manga. Goku can still use SSG despite it being absorbed into his base. And we aren't screaming you don't know what's canon or not, we came at you because you literally said

> It isn't canon

And then the post made by you immediately after said

> No one has said if it's canon or not.

And you started this piss war with

> just like the rest of Super

And then tried to fucking back pedal with

N..no guys I meant the anime, the manga might be canon.

Actually fuck off

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>>143382662
>those beautiful gains are now lost forever
what a tragedy

>>143382908
Goku died 6 months before the Androids arrived in the future timeline.

Goten was born after cell, but that same year.

>>143382955
>what is the story of Super

Literally everyone lost their gains. Its a show of edgy beanpoles now

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>>143382955
it pains me inside just thinking about it

>>143377187
A Garlic Jr.

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>>143383201
The Ox king and Yajirobe still have their gains. Also why does the Ox king dress like a male stripper?

>>143381962
When his design stops being shit.

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>>143378134
why did they remove the tail concept in saiyans. its the only thing that makes them distinct from humans. they could of retcon the oozaru transformation by choosing if you want to transform during a full moon instead of looking at it.

>>143381294
>>143381500
>every thread
She wished before the android

>>143383881
Because tails were too hard to add to costumes in Xenoverse. The devs asked him to write them out of the series.

>>143382955
>>143383415
Future Trunks in the Broly and Bojack movie was fucking great. He looks older and should even be the look for the 30+ year old he is now in Super.

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>saiyan with blue hair

god level !

>>143383973
What?

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>>143383968
I don't know why thy decided to go for this style in Super. Everyone looks so plastics and shiny. Not to mention any definition the characters had in there bodies is gone.

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>>143383968
forgot to add pic related.

>>143383913
Or have them as a option of creating your saiyan OC instead of stapling all of them in costumes

>>143383993
she is trunk sister

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>>143384133
No she's not. That's Maron, Krillin's girlfriend form that filler saga.

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>>143384074
here's another model sheet of Trunks from Broly movie.

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>>143362195

>Puberty

Pretty sure he was done with it by the end of the Cell Saga

>>143384393
Android 17?

>>143374284

I'm willing to bet SSJ2 Vegito is strong enough to defeat anybody. Remember this nigga was literally toying with the strongest form of Buu even in his base form.

SSB Vegito would just be retarded

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>>143384393
I am just gonna pretend he loses all of his gains due to cat food.

>>143380328
He's not anywhere close to God level but he's the strongest person in the cast now after Goku and Vegeta.

Honestly though, I feel like Goku was just showing off to Trunks to motivate him. He probably could have stayed even with him using just Super Saiyan.

>>143384472

Well lets see, if he's barely been fighting aside from killing Dabura and Babadi its not surprising he slimmed down

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>>143384477
Is he stronger than Fat Buu?

>>143376664
>somehow
>just makes one giant energy blast and gets shit done instead of dicking around for 20 episodes

>>143369531

Vegeta could have killed Dabura no problem, he was already SSJ2

But Cuckhan fucked it all up

>>143384552
No since he mentioned the Dabura fight was extremely difficult and Fat Buu was still noticeably stronger than Dabura.

>>143382662
>Keep gains or get your life's essence sucked by your waifu.
What a conundrum...

>>143383796
He IS a male stripper. He lost his fortune, gotta work on something.

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>>143359471

So. Dragon Ball keeps stealing Superman's stuff?

>>143360774
Toei better delivers or I gonna split in all Super's toys when they arrived here.

>>143361343
>End of Z
To the trash it goes.

Why does this show like to ignore that Pilaf used to attempt to murder children on a regular basis and wanted to rule the entire world?

>>143361942
Bulma was a fucking slut when she was young while Mai's idea of "lewd" was a kiss in the air.

>>143380328
SSJ3 Gotenks is nowhere nearly as strong as SSJ3 Goku.
Breeding with humans makes your child attain SSJ faster but unless they continuously train and get stronger (like Future Trunks) they're weak.

>>143385116
This. Goten turned SSJ because Chi Chi who is super smallfry by the Buu Saga was wrecking his shota butt.

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>>143383796
Even Ox King shrunk

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>>143385040
I think Toei is going to redo the final episode. It could still work as it was, but with so many new characters and events introduced, it would feel too out of place with everything that's been happening in Super. Plus I'm not a big fan of a few of those characters designs, like Bulma. At least Chi Chi finally got rid of that old lady bun at the end.

>>143361791

>FT has a milf fetish

This is why the nigga is top tier

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GT had a great initial concept with Trunks, Pan, and Goku
Too bad it fucked it all up

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>>143364375
This man is your friend, he fights for great Justice.

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>>143364764
>Gohan's just boring
His character is very dynamic, but Toei and Toriyama are too lazy to exploit all of his potential as a character.

>>143385186

Beerus and Whis can easily not be present, but with the Pilaf gang joining and the possible shipping with Trunks, it could feel weird.

Also why did they drop the ball with Dende? Wasn't he already tall by the Buu saga? Or was that an anie change?

>>143372533
>>143373590
>>143373896

>>143374046
Just how Vegeta said Cabba was as strong as him in base form, right? But sudently SSJ3 Gotenks is too weak to fight base form Vegeta. I bet Goku hold back his god ki in his fight with fucking currynigga and he left with him just because he wanted new adventures.

>>143385393
i love how Blackoon says "mudada"

>>143374474
>That's likely going to be the entire point of DBS: Goku becoming impossibly strong and coming to realize that he'll have to stop fighting some day
Knowing Toriyama and Toei you are fucking wrong. First Goku kills himself before guving up fighting. Goku needs to have adventures on his own from time to time, after that he is going to drop currynigga and look for someone else.

Oh so here is my power rankings I'm just gonna put people into tiers to show what area of strength they are in

Tier 1
Zeno

Tier 2
Whis and Vados

Tier 3
Ssbkkx10 goku hit Beerus Champa and Gogeta ssj4

Tier 4
Ssb goku ssb vegeta Golden Frieza Purp vegeta and Omega Shenron

Tier 5
God goku ssj4 goku ssj4 vegeta Baby and Super 17 and Vegito

Tier 6
Ssj3 Goku Ssj2 Vegeta Buu magetta and Ultimate Gohan

Tier 7
Ssj2 Goku ssj2 trunks ssj2 teen gohan Dabura Cell ssj3 gotenks and tagoma

Tier 8
Ssj goku ssj vegeta ssj Cabba Android 16 17 and 18 Winnie the pooh piccolo ssj trunks


Tier 9
Base Goku Base vegeta Base Cabba current ssj gohan ssj bardock

Tier 10
Tien android base bardock base current gohan 19 Dr gero namek Frieza frost king cold supreme Kai kibito kid trunks (base and ssj) kid gotten (base and ssj)

Tier 11
Roshi Krillin yamcha nappa jaco the ginyu force (besides ginyu maybe) Dodoria Zarbon and Cui

Tier 12
Raditz saibamen and yajirobe maybe videl and pan

Tier 13
Hercule Satan and Tarble

Tier 14
Farmer with shotgun

Tier 15
Nippleman

I'm sure I left some out add to it

>>143385040
Would like this yes. In what universe does a teenage Goten loose to a child Pan

>>143381978
Were you gonna say anything else? You left us at a cliffhanger with that ending comma.

>>143386133

>Vegito that low

SSJ3 Vegito could probably take Whis

Just saiyan

>>143386133
Monaka should be a few tiers higher since he tanked Goku's punch.

>>143386133
>weeaboos keeping call him Zeno

It's Omni-King you fucktard

>>143386133
>Android 16, 17, 18 on the same tier as SS Goku and Vegeta who is literally God level

>>143382015
That doesn't make sense. Black destroyed many planets before going to Earth. Taking Goku's aspect is useless. Hell, it's not like Trunks went emo because "I can't punch this evil monster who look like my old pal Goku", he tried to kill him and failed for lack of strength, not for lack of trying. I'm still going for the theory that Black let the power going to his head and he see himself as a god, not a human or a saiyan

>>143359471
For those who dont know.
>Demigura is the big bad.
>This is future time line Goku who had died naturally and been gifted abilities thanks to the Kaioshin.
>Goku is under Demigura's mind control, known as Goku Black.
>He is tracking down Trunks to kill him because Demigura is defeated by Trunks.
>Trunks entire time line will be wiped from existence because it is a colossal fuck up.
>Trunks has to become Time Patrol due to this.

and because you claim "Xenoverse" isn't cannon go back and read some interviews.
>We are bringing in a fan favorite from the Xenoverse game as well as a returning favorite"
as well
>Demigura and Black have the same Ear ring.

>But what about the Kaio?
>The Kaio is the one who was overseeing Goku and training him to be a god or protector of something when Demigura took over his mind and killed him, they are friends.
>Black is stronger then Goku and laughs each time he gets hit.

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>>143386274
>SSJ3 Vegito could probably take Whis

While I'm sure SSJ3 Vegito would be strong as fuck, I don't think he would be able to even put a scratch on Whis. He probably couldn't even defeat Beerus.

>>143380732
>>143380386
>>143380328
You have to realize Toei and Toriyama stopped caring about the logic in Super. Cabba is as strong as base Vegeta, but SSJ3 Gotenks is weaker than him. Also SSJ Gohan=SSJ Trunks>Piccolo
Blue Frieza>Piccolo

>>143386635

Well considering base form Vegito was enough to kill Majin Buu (he only went SSJ to piss him off and make him absorb him), I dunno.

He's REALLY fucking strong and we never got to see exactly how strong

>>143386635
I think he is talking about a what if vegito of the current goku and vegeta fused with the ear rings

>>143386173
>In what universe does a teenage Goten loose to a child Pan
In filler where the tournament was cancelled abd Goten fought for to help her forget about Grandpa Goku ditching her for a currynigga and probably letting her win.

Had not seen dragon ball in years, barring beerus and frieza movie. Watched all of super, barring the movie arcs last week. My dragon balls are still itching. Should I watch kai?

>>143385186
I agree with that Bulma's design in End of Z was lame. Look and remind me too much of that snake, Hillary. Should of gone future Bulma look. But everyone else I think look pretty good.

>>143386725
Yes. If you want to watch Super, just watch episodes 1, 2, 18, 44 and 47~

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>>143365564
Salvamakoto will save DBSuper

>>143374474
The canon ending is that once Goku and Vegeta reach the true heights of their strength they go off to another planet and kill eachother in one last battle never to return. That's from DBO by Toriyama at least.

>>143386716
In that case, taking the god ki into account I'm sure they would be able to defeat Beerus at the very least. Don't know why they didn't do that. Especially since they could just unfuse themselves with the dragon balls as seen with Supreme Kai and Kibito.

But we don't know how strong Whis is. He could either be just plain stronger than Beerus, or leagues above him at a level that Goku and Vegeta seem like ants.

>>143386878
But that happens when they are old fucks.

>>143386948
Toriyama said Beerus is a 10 while Whiss a 15.

>>143361659
kill yourself

Reminder that this saga is gonna end with Zeno-Sama erasing the future timeline because a universe can't be split in multiple timelines, causing Future Trunks to lose his home forcing him to join the Time Patrol

>>143386948

SSB Vegito could beat Whis

t: dbz pro

>>143374284
SSB fusion would be broken 2bh. They would easily be able to curbstomp beerus and MAYBE even give whis trouble

I dont think black is strong enough (yet) to warrant a fusion. I'm sure SSB goku/vegeta can fuck him up