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>Japanese person magically teleported into a fantasy world with rpg mechanics where they get special snowflake powers that nobody else has

Why wont it stop?
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>Why can't these comics for teenagers be targeted at young adults?
I don't know anon. Have you tried reading other stuff?
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Because I still enjoy it
It makes me self-insert away from my shitty life
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>>142984145
>cute girl is transported to another world and given awesome powers
>meets tons of attractive guys
>Hasn't fucked a single one yet
Male or female. It's always the beta ones.
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>>142985001
>self insert into female MC
>don't want her to fuck any guys because it's gay
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>>142984145
the black healer
racist motherfuckers
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>>142984145
>japanese person
Ok
>in a fantasy world
Ok
>the world has rpg elements for no reason
This is not ok. Why is every fantasy world automatically filed with things like skills, hp and mp?
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>>142985099
Anon, if we were turned into cute girls, we'd be total sluts. Accept it and move on.
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>Japanese person magically teleported into a fantasy world with rpg mechanics where they get special snowflake powers that nobody else has
>They bend over backwards to conceal their power even when there's no logical reason to do so, just so the author can enjoy the moment when the MC's awesomeness is revealed

Getting real sick of this shit
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>>142985371
Yeah but we'd be lesbian sluts
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>>142984145
There isnt a single anime like that. Why are you complaining?
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>>142985467
I enjoy the first thing you said
But I really want MC to be like in Overlord where the whole world is scared of him
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>>142985524
Sorry anon but you can't defeat the dick.
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>>142984145
It makes money.
They don't care about what people overseas think because it isn't marketed to them
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>>142984145
>Japanese person magically teleported into a fantasy world with rpg mechanics but everyone hates him or he's plain trash

any manga like this? the only one that comes to mind is tate no yuusha
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>>142986561
i remember a lot like this where mc gets betrayed, so just google mc getting betrayed and you'll find a few
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>>142984145
>magically teleported
Nonono, the big thing now is having them die in a plane crash or something and waking up in the fantasy world.

I don't know why they had to add the dying part with these recent ones.
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>>142984145
>Japanese person magically teleported into a fantasy world without rpg mechanics

Why wouldn't this work?
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Why is there no
> Soldier gets teleported to a world where he is a Highschool student
The closest thing that exists is FMP
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>>142984145
Because I like it.
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>>142986704
If they are dead they won't have a mission to return home

I just wanna read a story about a character going full (sorry for not /a/ related) Nox and doing anything no matter the consequences or how evil it is to get back to earth
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>>142984145
Because it's a easy way to setup any kind of story.

Konosuba, Overlord and Re:Zero have this same "gimmick", and yet they are totally different stories.
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>>142984145
Why don't you kill yourself?
Seriously can a mod ban these threads, everyday a retard make ones of these
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>>142985524
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>>142986621
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>>142986704
or stabbed to death by your two female friends who turned out to be yanderes
or get caught up in a murder case and die while trying to save your friend
or get run over by mr.truck one day
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>>142987677
>or stabbed to death by your two female friends who turned out to be yanderes
>or get caught up in a murder case and die while trying to save your friend
Did these actually happen?
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>>142987825
The second one is from Slime. I don't know the first.
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>>142987979
It wasn't a murder case in slime, it was a plain ol hit-n-run. The MC took the hit for his kouhai and was stabbed in the back
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I hate when the rpg mechanics have no bearing on the story. Like, why even bother having them.
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>>142988029
Well, he killed the MC so it's a murder case now. What the hell, for all we know, he may even have killed kouhai and gf and is currently on the run.
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>>142986704
>work for America
>just do your job
>suddenly plane crash
>no survivors
>wake up in a fantasy land full of magic
>work your way up despite not having magical abilities
GOT >> Japanese self insert stories
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>>142987979
Shieldbro This happened to Motoyasu, the spear hero. The heroes discuss what were they doing before coming here, and motoyasu says he got stabbed by his two friends. In the spear hero sidestory, one was a childhood friend of his and the other was a cute ojou type girl. So they both end up meeting a.ong with motoyasu, grab a cooking knife each for one and start stabbing him because they were crazy like that.
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>>142984145
I read some of this one. Nothing fucking happens it's goddamn shit.
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>>142984145
>don't underestimate a gamer
Normalfags.
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>>142988172
Nope, The stabbing was in plain sight so the stabber ran away. Kouhai and MC share some last moments before MC passes away.

I hope kouhai deleted MC's computer hard drive
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Wish we had more isekai stories like Eien no Aselia

Yuuto couldn't understand shit the locals said for a few months, nor was he instantly a Kirito-tier death machine.

Seems like isekai is starting to branch out though somewhat, with scrub-tier adventuers a la Grimgar, and the usual OP-as-shit stuff we've had for years like Arifureta/et al.
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>>142988335
>Magic sure is convenient, huh?
>Magic sure is convenient, huh?
>Magic sure is convenient, huh?
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>>142988335
Kumo kinda fits, but the author used a pretty bizarre asspull to make her able to understand the language.

Bookworm is less RPGy and not fighting, but it definitely fits.
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>>142988202
Oh, right, I never read his sidestory. Please tell me he called them pigs.
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I read a newer manga awhile back about two girls that get transfered and the pretty one has no power while the otaku type average girl has the power to make weapons and shit. She only wants pretty people to be the MC so she follows the MC around making shit for her in front of all the bishounens that are around her. Its kinda nice because you see the story from a interesting PoV. Recently she got found out by a keikaku master shota aiming for the throne and it was pretty dumb watching her being dumb when she has a godlike ability and feels completely trapped by this guy.
Its also fun how everyone shits on her for not being attractive. There was even a serious scene where the two characters that are basically the only ones who give a shit that she exists and knows her secret come save her and she's crying because she thinks she's worthless because she's not pretty, but then she feels guilty about groping one of the characters boobs for too long so of course she asks that out loud.
Feels very shoujoey.
>>142988129
I'm fine with it because the reader doesn't have any experience with actual fantasy, but does have experience with fantasy games. Plus it gives you various excuses for all sorts of dumb shit plotwise.
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>>142988335
Its hard to write a story with a low level power creep, especially in asian literature.
Even grimgar has some power creep in it, they just keep the fights 'desperate'
Re:zero is like the opposite though where everyone but the MC can fight. The writers QA said that he thought of it when his friend said wouldn't a incompetent MC doing everything for a silver haired girl be cool?
Writer also stated that his MC in a serious fight could beat up a little girl at best.
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>>142988335
>Eien no Aselia

Might as well say 12k for maximum brutality.
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>>142988581
Both end up with the narrative licking the MC's ass as usual so it doesn't really matter in the end.
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>>142986561
Kumo Desu ga, technically; she doesn't make any friends until a few hundred chapters in
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You're right, it would be so believable if the person was, I don't know... American, as always?
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>>142985524

That's not how biology works. Also
>wanting to be a dyke
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>be a level 10 scrub
>get raped and killed in vol 1 cause weak as shit cause no mc power
>The End

Amazing story 10/10 retards, a story can't continue without mc privilege
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>>142988626
Nah, he doesn't care about that old memory anymore. Not when he's entirely devoted to his waifu to the point of insanity. The spear hero sidestory runs for about as long as the main story plus the extra chapters. It is full of lore, exploration and exposition. Everything that could have gone wrong in shieldbro goes horribly wrong in here. Raphtalia also suffers and dies a lot here either directly or indirectly because of motoyasu's fault. Too fucking bad nobody's translating it anymore goddamn it.
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>>142984145
Random annon complaining about Japanese person magically teleported into a fantasy world with rpg mechanics where they get special snowflake powers that nobody else has' animes.

Why wont it stop?
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>genre for literal self insert
>protag is a woman
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>>142988985
What is it with these narou novels and the narrative sucking the MC off? I mean, one or two I wouldn't care, but when the whole story is just about him/her looking good it gets hard to continue sometimes. I dropped Skeleton Knight because of this, even when it got to the elf it was just about how hot and perfect she is and how OP he is like always.
>>142989086
You're assuming that your mind would stay the same in another brain which considering neurology is fucking insane. In fact, you'd probably just have strange memories and beliefs but be an entirely different person, including thinks like taste/touch/likes/dislikes etc.
>>142989139
nah many stories do it just fine. Its only when the MC is suddenly the VERY BEST and has an ability that can wreck everyone for 200 chapters that you get tired of it.
>>142989223
Because /a/ loves complaining. Negativity makes them feel comfortable, just like their real lives.
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>>142989018
Fitting, considering how selfish she is.
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>>142985524
Maybe if cocks weren't so god damn iresistable
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>>142989040
We sure are used to the Americans saving the world, especially when they were people socially awkward, bullied, with severe PTSD mental disorders... and every time, it solves ALL problems!
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>>142989040
American MC would make everything better
I want a narou novel about a jap getting transferred to not!America with superpowers
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>>142989281
>What is it with these narou novels and the narrative sucking the MC off?

Because wish fulfillment.
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>>142986811
Nanahoshi-chan from Mushoku Tensei
Can't even use magic, but works herself to the bone to develop a teleportation circle that can bring her back to our world, making powerful connections along the way to help her with her research
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>>142988335

Aselia was probably the best isekai story to date. That alien language part was just crazy. And it got even better when Eternals appeared.

Maybe now that it's getting a remake it will finally get a good anime.
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>>142988335
> Eien no Aselia
Can't believe how much they fucked up the sequel.
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>>142989418

I wouldn't say that they fucked up. Story is weaker at first, but once you learn what is really going on it's just as good.
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>>142989491
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>>142989587

This is bullshit though. Only one boss wanted to destroy the world.
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>>142984145
Because it's easy for the reader to relate to the MC. Why do you think Narnia or Harry Potter is popular? It has seemingly normal people pushed into fantastical worlds.
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>>142989796

What are the best selling anime in recent years? Love Live, Madoka, GuP, Osomatsu.

None of them had a self insert lead.
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>>142989587
You know if these guys masterminding them were so good why wouldn't THEY destroy the world? Or better yet just try at the same time, why wait until the other guy you convinced to do it failed?
Imagine the MC winning the final battle but another guy finished his world destroy ritual right after under a rock in the desert in nowhereistan. Imagine that butthurt.
>>142989796
I like it when awesome people get pushed in better like that Magic in a Different World is too far behind.
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>>142989796
Sword Art Online, Re:Zero, Fate, Bakamonogatari.
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>>142989891

Because none of them actually wanted to destroy the world. Seinarukana is about fighting against the fate that repeats the same scenario over and over again since their multiverse was created.
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>>142985356
why is every fantasy world filled with living beings?
Why can't they just write one about rocks doing cute rock stuff?
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>>142989018
neat, thanks
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>>142989985
I'd read that
>hey whats this story abo-
>wait he's just describing rocks
>he's still going on about rocks
>holy shit alabaster best rock ever, check out that cleavage!
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>>142990107
>>142989985
THEY ARE CALLED MINERALS NOT ROCKS
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I wish I know Japanese so I can shitpost on the review pages of narou stories I don't like.
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>MC is a magically teleported by God and given special snowflake powers to save the world
>Doesn't give a shit
>Just wants to enjoy a simple life with lots of naps and feet

Anyone reading Lazy Dungeon Master? The MC is pretty based
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>>142990402
The MC sounds selfish as fuck. Not based at all.
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>>142985371
Y-you don't need to be a girl to be a total slut...
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>>142984145
>HOLY SHIT GUYS CLICHES
Kill yourself and stop posting.
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It'll stop when there appears a MMO that allows for their power fantasies.
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>>142990453
He's selfish but the way the story develops he's actually a pretty good guy because he can just walk away and his resident loli will die like a bitch.
There's this onee-chan type that basically taught her to be an idiot on purpose to 'protect' her but eventually that would have lead to her death. MC saved her life, and a beastkin girl that got raped by bandits that took up shop in the dungeon.
Then again he did just let them rape her.
Yeah nevermind he's a dick.
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>>142990107
labradorite is best girl
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>>142989018
>tfw Baba Okina started writing again
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>>142986363
Why don't we have Chosen One plots anymore?
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>>142990735
>He's selfish but the way the story develops he's actually a pretty good guy because he can just walk away and his resident loli will die like a bitch.

Actually, if she dies, he dies.
But I don't think "dick" and "based" are mutually exclusive terms.
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>>142988175
Avatar and Dances With Wolves are nice movies, too.
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>>142990402
Sounds a little like Evil God Average
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>>142990873
>But I don't think "dick" and "based" are mutually exclusive terms.
Uh actually I think they are by definition. You can be a dick whose based but you can't do both at once without being a based dick. You see, he shit has to evolve. At that point you're not either of those alone, but both together.
>>142990992
Its a very similar story, down to the dungeon mechanics and dungeon battles and shit too.
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>>142990402
But is he stuck permanently wearing lewd lingerie like a certain evil god? Dunno what's going on with the red circle, that's how I found it.
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>>142990402
Thought you were talkin about Konosuba for a second there.
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>>142991297
Worse. In order to appease an enraged giant lizard, he has to perform lying down dogeza 8 hours a day. He later increases it to 12 hours a day, with his loli dog-girl slave also performing it while pressed up against him
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> Not an isekai story.
> Guy is a slave and so is his sister.
> Sister get sold for her brother to leave.
> Sent back in a body bag.
> Said brother cannibalizes her corpse and burns down a house.
> Kills a bookstore couple that cared about him and a person he befriended and took his name. (The dude had a loving parents, friends, siblings and a fiance who he promised to return to when he got stronger and she told him in tears not to leave, oh well, at least his name is gonna get known, just not him making all the actions)
>Guy is a psycho in battle.
Anime when? I am bleeding from all the edge.
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>>142990402
Golems are OP.
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You know what the best anime of this genre is?

Now and Then, Here and There.

Actually takes the concept seriously, with the slavery and the rape and the suffering.
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>>142992005
A bunch of one dimensional evil villains ruined too much of the experience.
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>>142984145
I prefer parodies
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>>142991297
Anri sama is a goddess. That bare back, her cold diamond eyes, the long, seductive black hair, the luxurious revealing dress that outlines her perfect, yet, gentle body.
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I just wish they dumped the whole RPG world setting. If someone wrote a reincarnation novel and managed to write an interesting world like, say, Golden Kamuy, then I'm sure nobody would complain.
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>>142984145
Is there a horror world one yet?
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>>142985001
>implying beta mc are all bad
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>>142992433
Not everyone does the RPG world setting, people has done other worlds already. There's mecha, fantasy, sci-fi, etc. RPG is just the most noticeable one because it's the one most people are able to relate to.
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>>142992241
People like you are the cancer that is killing this genre.
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>>142992756
Wait, I thought isekai is considered a sub-genre of fantasy?
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>>142992867
By definition it couldn't possibly be sub-genre of anything but fantasy.
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what's the name of the one where a bus of students got in accident and get transported into a fantasy world? protag gets hypnosis powers and turns girls into his personal waifus and one his female classmates becomes a knight or something
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>>142993059
That's the slave one, which I too have forgotten the name, but fuck it. Might have been Demon Lord something something.
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>>142993059
Himekishi and the guy basically dumps semen to grow his enslavement powers?
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>>142992005
No, that's awful shit that people took as a masterpiece because they were fifteen when they first saw it. Having suffering and "serious" content doesn't make something good.
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>>142993109
yup, that's the one, not sure about the semen part though
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>>142992529
>implying they aren't
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>>142986726
Called Endride.
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Is Hexennacht count as an isekai?
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>>142993320
Endride was pretty good shit. Glad we're getting 26 episodes.
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>>142993178
>Being this much of a newfag
>never heard of onizuka
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I don't even mind Isekai genre where you are summoned or reincarnated.

I just fucking hate RPG mechanics like skills, stats, and all those special moves.
I mean, fuck. "He has 'move fast skill' so he moves fast!", "He has this sword skill that can cut through fortress!", "His 'world render skill' bypasses all defenses!", "He got better at swordplay because he leveled up the 'sword king skill'!"
It takes out all the effort you need to gain something. It is like effort don't even matter, and skills is what defines a person's strength.
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>>142993848
Japan needs a Narnia.
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just shut up and watch something else goddamn
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>>142984145

What is the most popular title that represents this genre?
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>Nobody has set out to write what is basically a non-shit Arifureta about MC with out of combat support skills as part of a mass transport event that doesn't turn into some combat god and instead becomes the ultimate smith

Honestly though the thing I hate most about the formula of this genre is that if the MC has any kind of crafting ability he will make guns and those guns will outclass everything that came before it in the fantasy world
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Honestly I like "Traveled to another world" series. It's when they literally run on video game mechanics right down to status bars, menus, and levels that it becomes bullshit and just lazy writing.
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Anyone also reads this one ?

Is pretty fun. The game looks tedious as fuck and it irritates me a little bit how the MC treats the fairyqueen like sHit, but is still very fun.
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>>142994143
Me too. Especially since the average person shouldn't be able to make a gun just because they're from a world with them. Same with things like cars, aircraft, medicinal skills, etc.
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>>142994143
>Arifureta
That novel was really embarrassing to read. He even made himself a motorcycle that could fly.

The series where they end up in an otome game can be fun.

>An Otome Game’s Burikko Villainess Turned into a Magic Otaku
Was excellent and the MC even falls in love and gets married eventually. The series went downhill afterwards but up till that one point its nice.
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>>142994137
Hard to define, there's a lot of subgenre to it.
If you count virtual reality/games, I guess its SAO.
If its reincarnation, I guess Mushoku Tensei is the best and most popular.
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Love thsi one too. IT does the harem thingy very well and how dad MC that is the kings married the top mercenarie in that world is hilarious.
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>>142994314
Started off fun with a mc that just screws around with random skills but quickly became bullshit when a lot of those skills turned out to be either super good at higher levels or great when combined with others but somehow nobody had ever experimented with or bothered with them before he did.
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>>142994137
overlord i think
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>>142994461
Art looks terrible desu
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>>142994467
In fact, what really killed it for me is that somehow nobody but him bothered playing as an archer, or ever thought to combine it with a stealth skill for sniping. I mean seriously, is everyone playing the game retarded?
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>>142994615
>I mean seriously, is everyone playing the game retarded?

That's the theme of the genre. Everyone else is retarded but the MC.

Remember that story about the MC teaching the medieval folks how to flip steaks.
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What about a different perspective? The real mc is a native and the other characters are summoned.
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remove isekai
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>>142994678
That sounds quite terrible.
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>>142994694
Been done before, they just gasm over the OPness of the characters and how they're helpless.
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>>142994694
The MC is the princess doing the summoning.
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>>142994738
But what if he's the actual hero of the story?
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>>142994401
>He even made himself a motorcycle that could fly.
Jesus christ, here I thought it was bad enough he made a fucking machinegun.

But to be fair, Arifureta was "good" for the first dungeon. He wasnt OP in there, he had a clear purpose, he wasn't edgy for the sake of edgy.
But then he got out and started being all coldsteel to everybody, which was where I was too embarrassed to go on.
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>>142994467
>>142994615

At least Ossan has the caveat of the game being out for a few hours from when he made his character and most of his skills being shit tier because the game forces archers and rogues to actually learn how to shoot and sneak.
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>>142994678
>Remember that story about the MC teaching the medieval folks how to flip steaks.
That reminds me of the one copypasta anon made where the MC explained the mechanics of change to the shop clerk.
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>>142994836
Wasn't that for Mahouka?
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>>142994825
Yeah, but its stupid that nobody else picked up the archery or sneaking skills just because they weren't the best at level one and took 10 seconds to figure out how to use.

Stuff like sneaky and ranged characters are always popular play types even when they are shitty due to game mechanics.
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>>142994778
>tfw people who are buzzed out because of the "edginess" from the first dungeon are still around
It was literally a comedy from the start. I like it and still do. Knew where the dungeon was going and it was definitely not an "edgy" route. Kept the same overall anime tone. Maybe people who aren't used to seeing it, read the situation wrong. I'm just old, I guess.
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>>142989352
>>142989040
What's with the stories only being allowed to have Japanese? I swear the idea that ONLY Japanese people could possibly be summoned has come up at least three times and there's never an explanation. It's always stated like it's some sort of hard fact with nothing to back it up.
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>>142994778
I stopped when he turned a dragon into a masochist when he shoved a piledriver up it's ass.
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I just want a better version of Honzuki with a better loli and more drama.
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>>142994955
>What's with the stories only being allowed to have Japanese?
Note this is quite literally the dumbest question to ever ask. You can ask it to just about every thing and it would be clear.
Example.
American Movies
Wow, an American protagonist? Who knew?
Japanese Movies
Wow, a Japanese protagonist? Who knew?

People can go out of their way to do other ethnicity, but it's nothing special if you're going to do it different just to be different. \
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>>142995011
Maybe I should read this.
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>>142994955
Iirc log horizon briefly mentions other countries servers and has that side story about the party traveling to the Japan servers. The American member is playing a character based on a ninja turtle or something.
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>>142994314
which one is farther ahead in the translation the manga or LN?
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>>142994955
Because instead of writing LNs featuring an American we just whine about how it's always the Japanese here.
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>tfw no reincarnation novel on native people

Seriously though, those guys litterally give you a wife if you're friendly with them.
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>>142995111
You would have make quite a good pitch, if you're not going to have the special guy who reincarnated be the main character.
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>>142995099
daybreak has a russian/japanese guy
it's pretty good as well.
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>>142994922
>10 seconds
>he thinks it takes 10 seconds to learn archery vs moving targets and how to sneak past wolves

Yeah MC has the MC effect going and it still took him a few days in the training hall before he could take on level 1 monsters. The large majority of players are gonna pick up their bow and rogue stuff then after a few hours in the training hall reroll into something with an easier start instead of taking a ton of crafting classes plus 3 combat ones.
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>>142995099
What's up with the Americans not doing their own LNs yet? Always complaining about Japanese LNs and posting them illegally, yet they don't even have the ability to create their own.
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Isekai genre is just a really cheap, easy way to introduce a magic/sword world.
The problem is that most authors are either too untalented or lazy to introduce a compelling, unique world with their own cultures and all, thus just focus on the OPness of the MC or this super hot harem to distract the readers from noticing.

I mean, call Mushoku Tensei shit if you want, but you have to admit that the author actually gave some thought behind the world building and culture.
Log horizon is technically an Isekai RPG shit, but the world pioneering and worldbuilding was also compelling.
The more recent This worlds magic is too far behind by Sky is also an Isekai OP MC bullshit, but the Magitech wanking is extremely enjoyable for some reason.

It is not the genre that is shit, but the authors that is shit.
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>>142995258
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>>142995247
Aren't LNs just the Japanese equivalent of YA fiction?
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>>142995258
Well yeah, that's true about any topic or genre.
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>tfw no igavania styled isekai
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>>142995247
I'm no expert on western stuff, but does this count?
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>>142995304
Pretty sure they are.
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>>142994955
If you have an american MC, you are required to write some english sentences to show how much of an american the MC is.

Japanese are very frightened of the Gaijins and their Gaijin language.
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Well there's Grimgar, where the fact that they're from another world is (as far as the anime covered anyway) mostly irrelevant and offers them no advantages, and mainly serves to result in a bunch of people with no experience or options stuck in a shitty situation just trying to get by.
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>>142987677
>no anime about truck drivers
>there will never be an episode about him mourning the guy he just ran over
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>No series about a world dealing with the aftermath of killing the demon lord and now trying to figure out how to deal with the dozens to hundreds of mary sue kids they summoned.
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>>142995440
There's Yuusha Goroshi.
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>>142995247
Mother of Learning is something that I consider an LN, even if it is not.
It is a fun ride, despite the pacing gone to shit.
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>>142995304
>>142995247
We do have YA fiction but they always have lame sounding titles and no compelling art.

Plus, everyone knows reading is for faggots.
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>>142995440
>Demon Lord
Why is it always a demon lord? Why do all monsters have to be grouped up into one Universal species led by one dominant entity? Why can't there say be a king of beasts, a king of aquatic creatures, a king of dragons, I mean WHY DOES IT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE A FUCKING DEMON LORD?!
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>>142995410
Muderhobos would have been better if it focused less or Mary and more on Ranta
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>>142995534
It's a clear contrast between the good and the bad. It's like asking "Why is there a villain?", because that's the antagonist.
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>>142989375
She's far more interesting than the MC. Did the author ever do any followup stories about her?
>>142990402
>Based
Yeah, no. He's an ass. An amusing asshole , but still an asshole.
>>142995099
>>142995046
>>142995405
You clearly did not understand the content of the entire paragraph.
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Characters in LNs have outright assumed and stated that anyone summoned or transferred to another world can only be Japanese by default with no reasoning behind it.
Literally just. "Oh. Some people have supposedly been here before hundreds of years ago. They must have been Japanese so let's go look for Japanese writing."
It is not the same as American movies having American protagonists. It's the same as a protagonist in American movies assuming that anyone who shows up or has previously shown up that isn't a native is going to be an American for absolutely no reason.
You once saw a white dude a few hundred years back? Clearly he must have been an american.
Your meta knowledge is not the same as characters applying meta knowledge with no in universe reason to know the meta knowledge in the first place.
I do not know how the fuck you guys are thinking that I remotely said anything complaining about how none of the MCs aren't american. I asked why the core assumption for characters in universe is that all summonings come from a tiny selection of the planet when the summoners don't even know anything about our world to begin with.
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>>142995410
The memory wipe is why I enjoy Grimgar. They don't understand why they are there and are just struggling to live. They are basically level 1 in an rpg, with the MC only sometimes getting a unique ability
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>>142995440
>kids take over world
>story is now about finding a way to send them all back
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I like The Gamer or No Game No Life, although the gamer is more like he just got vidya powers in the real world instead of being transported to a magic one
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>>142995566
I'm just saying. I prefer it when monsters aren't actually a species and rather a label for anything scary big creatures.
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>>142995534
Cause the Kanji for Ma-ou is Evil(ma) and King(ou).
A Demon king's literal meaning is an Evil king, which is perfect for the big bad.
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>>142995534
Same reason why whenever there are adventurers they have a guild hall designed like a western tavern with a job board.
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>no story about generic space marine betting sent to a fantasy world
>proceeds to kill everything with guns
>eventually finds magic guns to kill things faster
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>>142995440
That's technically the plot of Konosuba since the first guy they summoned had no life so he grinded and at the end decided he wanted to be the demon lord instead.
Now the goddesses chuck hundreds of people at him trying to fix the new/same problem while having to clean up the mess all of the summoned heroes make.
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>>142995258
>Magitech wanking is extremely enjoyable for some reason.

That's because you're a pleb, anon.
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>>142995534
>Why can't there say be a king of beasts, a king of aquatic creatures, a king of dragons, I mean WHY DOES IT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE A FUCKING DEMON LORD?!

Fun fact, in the Dragon Quest manga, the thing every one of this shit is ripping off, there are kings like that. They are the generals of the Demon Lord's army, divided by their division.
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>>142995729
Strange Journey?
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>>142995571
Probably because that just makes it confusing for the audience. Why introduce another region of the world if you don't need to? Japan is already big enough as it is.
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>>142994274
What about when they just get more powerful from leveling like in MKR?
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>>142988335
>Eien no Aselia
is the game any good? story sounds good but the art is pretty bad
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>>142995021
>tfw no reincarnated literary characters

Sherlock Holmes for MC.
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>>142995258
> Adding "God" to every name.
Some thought alright.
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>>142995633
Well, eventually big scary creatures got humanized and you know, are a species too.
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>>142995784
>Someone else read Dai No Daiboken
Holy shit I thought I was the only one. I enjoyed it a lot actually. But yeah now that you mention a lot of fantasy adventure manga does seem to based on it. Anyways to address your point, yeah I think that's cool and all but you have to remember the Demon Lord is still the top dog. I just want separate factions man.
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>>142995784
Dragon Quest is pretty much the origin of Hero fighting against a big bad.
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I wonder how long it will take before MC is taken to a Sci-fi world, instead of the Magic and sword world.

I really want to see MC being enlisted as a space marine despite not understanding what the fuck is going on.
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>>142995910
C'mon
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>>142995928
Muv-luv?
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Bonfire NEET is the only good reincarnation novel.

Prove me wrong.
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>>142995829
I guess it's that way to the Japanese. To me it's just extremely confusing to hear the conclusions they come to out of where with no actual logic behind em.
>We have seen other great heroes from your world before. Do you wish to hear of them?
>Yes. Tell me of these great Americans!
It would be hilarious if it was played as them being stupid/jingoistic but it's entirely straight so it just makes me go "huh?"
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>>142995504
>lame sounding titles
Kek, in comparison to what Japan has, it would be pretty bad in America. Like The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo and the Lions of the Wrath or some shit.

The artwork in YA fiction isn't what LN readers want though. There is a market for actual LNs in this case. Since translated LNs are the current market and you just need to copy the format and ta-dah. You have LNs(not YA fiction) in America.
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>>142995886
Would be interesting. It could also be the backstory before the Demon Lord unites them all.

Doesn't really work that way in Dragon Quest though. Monsters in DQ are docile until some Demon Lord pops out to drive them crazy.
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>>142995952
I heard that it was good, with a healthy dose of suffering and FREEDOM here and there.

Is it worth playing the prequel and the game for the entire experience?
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>>142995967
Got kinda bored reading it desu.

I just hope the MC didn't steal the Hero's spotlight in the end.
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>>142996032
Well, I don't know if you're a waifufag, but I enjoyed the prequel and so I enjoyed the rest too. It's the same characters and you get to see the contrast and similarities as well. So, I would recommend playing the whole thing for the experience.
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>>142995571
>Yeah, no. He's an ass. An amusing asshole , but still an asshole.
But anon, an amusing ass is the best type of MC
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>>142996107
>But anon, an amusing ass is the best type of MC

Teenager detected.
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>>142996107
No, a delinquent-type of mc are the best kind.
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>>142996028
So where did the "muh racist humans" thing come from?
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>>142995633
>I prefer it when monsters aren't actually a species and rather a label for anything scary big creatures.
This, really.
I really want to see a Monster Hunter like world with lots of oversized monsters and shit ton of biology, not just "That monster is BAD!"
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>>142995784


Pop was best character.

>Literally just an average guy.
>No special ancessestors or anything, his dad is just a mediocre town blacksmith.
>Trains had and gets so good by the end of the series that he's the only other member of the party the evil god-wizard doesn't one shot besides the MC.

Also if you liked it the artist has finally picked the Beet the Vandel Buster series back up from where he left off.
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>>142996032
Just do the required routes 2 routes and move onto unlimited.

The entire experience is worth it. That is of course if you're not entirely spoiled about the game already cause i went in only doing the routes i needed to do and it was 10/10

just do the 2 routes in exta that are required for Unlimited, then do Meiya route and go to Muv luv Alternative
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>>142992093
It was amazing.
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>>142994836
It personally reminds me of that Murrica fuck yeah pasta where an American parachutes onto a Japanese rooftop to give a loli a cheesburger.
>>142996107
Acknowledging he's an asshole doesn't automatically mean I decided he's the worst MC ever. It's like acknowledging the sky is blue. There is no deeper meaning behind noticing that he is an asshole. I simply disagree with the idea that anyone that much of an asshole is remotely based.
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Need more fantasy where the Fair Folk aren't so friendly.
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>>142996169
From real life obviously.
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>>142984145
Monster Rancher.
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Just have a guy like this as the main character when there is a isekai story. He will be the most redeeming aspect to the crap of generic characters on the side.
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>>142996172
D-do you read alot of manga and LN? It's not uncommon as far as I'm aware. It's never just
>"That monster is BAD!"
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>>142996178
Not to mention he got with best girl in the end. Also Hyunkel was a massive Gary Stu.
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>>142995847
Sara Crewe as the loli princess MC.
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>>142995021
Only 2 chapters of cute bookworm loli? Damn.
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>>142996268
Japan is as bad as /pol/ when talking about racism.
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>tfw i like the isekai genre and almost anything on it
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>>142996352
Well, I certainly exaggerated, but it is more like the monster is pretty much always put in the position of a generic enemy. You know, like the monster is just something you defeat, not an actual living creature.
I just enjoy seeing a lot of biology, organism behavior, food chain system, its unique traits and all.
You know those shorts from Monster Hunter where it shows Monsters in their natural habitat? I really like those just for the biology aspect of it.
That was why I really liked konosuba biology.
Shit was so Australia, and it was interesting.
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>>142996514
You say that, yet Japan also blows out terrorists, cultists, and religions with no one even blinking an eye at them. I think Japan needs to do it worse if people really want to be able to understand what their message is. It's clear, but they have to simplify it or else it can grow out of hand.
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>>142985371
>implying we aren't already cute girls shitposting on an image board
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>>142990402
Its like a power fantasy then
Noty
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Where is the genre-changing deconstruction of isekai?
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>>142996072
He never does. He gets a slime and they become bros
the slime turns into a loli at some point
the loli then turns into a cute girl
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>>142996734
Cute girls shitposting on an image board while they're all in different parts of a new world when?
>"Hey faggots, I just got transported to some shit desert."
>"You're going to die, anon, Good luck"
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>>142996871
The genre does change every few months. It's not like it stays the same. It was lolis and female protags at some point, but it shouldn't be anymore.
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>every Isekai copies something from DnD
>Doesnt copy the magic system,politics or skill system
I have yet to see a optimized dnd mage in Isekai. It would be hilarious
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>>142996995
Literally Tatsuya anyways.
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>>142997041
Tatsya would be small potatoes in DnD. Well,even optimizated Mage is in some verses.

It would be multiple Tatsuyas plotting like adolf hitler and stalin while hiding from big guys.

Glorious
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>>142989018
Why did you have to remind me of this...

>>142990868
Wait, what?

>2 new chapters

All of my yes.
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>>142984145
What's really sad is that most of these MCs get their superpowers in the context of game cheats. It's like Japan doesn't read fantasy books except through video games anymore.
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>>142997421
It's more like /a/ doesn't read any other isekai aside from the video game ones or something.
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>>142997421
>It's like Japan doesn't read fantasy books except through video games anymore.

Is this a japanese thing? How many people read fantasy novels or even play D&D compared to play fantasy video games?
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>>142997538
The gamers of the past. Aka the weirdos who originally played DnD, read Tolkein, etc.

It's only lately that normies have been playing games too and reading fantasy novels. So it definitely isn't a Japanese thing, but Japan did hit it big with games in comparison to the west. So of course, their major influences would be games.
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>>142993412
>Onizuka
>beta MC

buddy you gotta be kidding me
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>>142984145
Because it's a fun, easy, and universally relatable fantasy. Everyone wishes they could live a life where they're badass and the center of the universe.
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>>142997731
he a fucking virgin he is a wizard almost
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>>142997760
That would be chinese novels anon, those are worse.
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>>142996876
Yeah, I already read up to that part.
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Why does it have to be wish fulfilment anyway?
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>>142997760
>universally relatable fantasy

I never fantasize of raping girls into submission.
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>>142997182
>All of my yes

Don't bother reading it. The authoress is a feminist and it shows how she portrays her male characters over the female ones.
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>>142997538
>>142997610

Look at Miyazaki adapting LeGuine and Wynn Jones. Once upon a time, Japan loved western fantasy.

But these days, all the isekai ideas are generic JRPG derived from DQ derived from D&D fantasies.
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>>142989018
>Only 6 ch of manga
Fugg

Are the translations bad? Is it worth to read
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>>142998145
why not?
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>>142998438
It's shit. Don't bother.
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what about pic related?

>double entry book keeping
author definitely read Lest Darkness Fall

Probably best use of modern knowledge so far to build up money and influence in web novels, though that's not really saying much since the plot still progresses way too conveniently. Heck, it's easy mode from the start because the MC is born a noble.

I just want something with a decent written plot with struggles but still gives satistying fulfilment feelings in the end.

too bad the plot itself
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>>142998477
Because loving sex in missionary position is my fetish.

>>142998494
>read the justification by the MC on Chapter 2

Fucking dropped.
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>>142996394
Would be far better than the usual loli MC we got. Intelligent but not overly so.

>mfw I read an eight-year old already writing in her diary about politics without any cuteness whatsoever
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>>142998011
Every fiction is basically wish-fulfilment

but I guess every NEET or underachiever particularly likes the wet-dream stories that LNs are so full off just to provide the accomplishment feelings that they lack in their lives.

Probably the biggest one is "if only I knew back then what I know now", time traveling / reincarnating back to a child and being treated like a genius. Something about that it just so delicious unless it's too over-the-top.
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>>142990402
>Nap mage will never return

Life is suffering
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>>142998494
I know Akuyaku has the otome game world and the mc is reincarnated into an untold character and he's a womanizer. Lived from the slums, save a fat kid, becomes a servant/pet to the noble kids. Falls in love with the burriko.
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>>142998597
you're so delicious but also over the top.
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>>142994461
What works here is that they MC isn't just reincarnated, but the japanese dudes are actually just passengers on that body and have to share with the original owner
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>>142998662
stop it anon, i'm not a reincarnated ojou sama
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>>142998184


>Don't bother reading it.

If I'm happy it's back, doesn't it imply I've already read everything up until this point?

>The authoress is a feminist and it shows how she portrays her male characters over the female ones.

So I'm supposed to also stay away from any material of which the author is a misogynist and it portrays on his male characters over the female ones?

Labeling shit feminist or otherwise is fucking stupid. Obviously japan always has shit taste and no story is perfect, and this trend of reincarnated japanese mcs on an rpg-esque setting is overplayed, and a cash-cow, but so are most videogames/movies/comics/books/manga/ etc., you name it.

It's just awkward spider doing awkward spider things and fucking shit up. And Black Healer is just beta female oogling at princes and healing people while doing a crash course on human anatomy on the fly. Theyr'e all generic clichés, but are entertaining enough.
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>>142998699
The only problem is that it lacks substance to really drive the story and struggle. He's literally gaining an advantage just by using past knowledge and using it to gain money and power that is essentially abusing. That lacks development and depth to where it is just wish fulfillment.
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>>142995677
>adventurers guild
pretty much an automatic drop to me along with level systems. MT gets a pass because it was basically the reincarnation LN that got me into these sorts of self-insert novels in the first place so it was still fresh then.

basically means the author can't think up an interesting system themselves.
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>>142998773
This. There is a subgenre of this shit and it's driving me crazy.
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>>142991699
edgey
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>>142995258
i don't like how you put Log Horizon on the same level as those other two.

Just about the only story I could stomach the MMO aspects because it was written well enough. Ninja loli was blatant pandering though, bad character even if entertaining at times. Story would have been more solid (but probably would have sold less) without her.
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>>142995021
I want an anime of this.
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>>142998875
This? You mean the pic?
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>>142998802
The only thing that can be acceptable is if the mc has skills or knowledge to survive, beyond that is where stories tend to fall apart.
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>>142998886
Yes. Saw it, googled it, read it, only 2 chapters, but it has an adorable little girl as an MC.
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There is one Reika-sama or something.

MC reincarnates into a modern day drill-haired ojou evil love rival, and it's nothing but cute girls doing cute things.

No crazy using future knowledge to take over the world plot. MC avoids the death flags by doing things a normal human would do; talking out the problems and simply ignoring the prince character (but bashing him in her thoughts).
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>>142998808
Wanna read it?
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>>142998897
I don't necessarily hate the MC improving the situation around him. What I hate is if the story is all about that. Entire chapters just about the MC building shit. It's just so fucking boring.
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>>142998773
>He's literally gaining an advantage just by using past knowledge and using it to gain money and power that is essentially abusing. That lacks development and depth to where it is just wish fulfillment.
Isn't this why we're reading *most* LNs in the first place? For quick wanky reads.

Then you go back to english books, and suddenly even a mediocre fantasy novel will suddenly read like a masterpiece because it has proper sentence and paragraph structures.
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>>142998932
The pic isn't from Honzuki. Same illustrator though.
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>>142998940
why not? name?
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>>142998969
It's not? Well, I was referring to Honzuki then. I see there are several volumes of LN. I think having a loli as an MC is a nice change.
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>>142998726
What translations are you reading?
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>>142998932
No please. The fanbase is fucking cancerous.
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>>142984145
Well, it wasn't RPG mechanics but the Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe sees the anointing of a family of relatively run of the mill English Children as the absolute monarchs of a fantasy kingdom, and overall defenders of the faith, in a very muscular and assertive fashion. They are not ceremonial. They kick ass and take names in the name of Lion Jesus/Aslan.

The kid in the Never Ending Story is So Fucking Special too. (Although that turns on him in due course, but still.)
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>>142998935
>bashing people in their thoughts
i love when people in TV does that
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>>142998949
Alot of times, there is always success when those stories exhibit those. No failure, no struggle. There are never negative ramifications when introducing certain inventions and so on. Arifureta was worse of them all.
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>>142998935
kenkyo

it's cute but it might as well be written without the reincarnation bullshit since the MC can't even remember middle-school shit and struggles with classes already. It would be a more solid story if it was just a romcom (but then again there wouldn't be the wish-fulfillment hook from the start)
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>>142999029
>Fanbase around something that has 2 chapters
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>>142999004
We already have lots of anime with loli MCs.
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>>142998995
Tower of Karma. Just came out with 18 chapters TLed.
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>>142999076
>he doesn't go to 2ch
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>>142999016
raisingthedead picked up after turb0translations, and just released 2 new chapters, and 3 more coming up this weekend. Baba Okina started releasing chapters like mad after that writer's block.
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>>142999119
>baba lives
>not under arrest for tax fraud or drugs
ALLAHU AKBAR
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Is Eien no Aselia worth reading even if its the all ages version?
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>>142999083
Well we haven't had one that involves lolreincarnation yet.
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>>142999207
I don't know why you would want an old hag pretending to be a loli as the MC.
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>>142999204
it lacks a route and some scenes.

its too bad none of the different translations did the full version.
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>>142994314
>shit typesetting
how about no
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>>142999073
The reincarnation bit does provide a good reason why the MC avoids the prince like the plague.

But then again, I have never understood the logic of prince/idol characters. With the amount of being a contrarian are in teenagers, no single person would be worshiped by his fellow students like that.
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>>142999302
I'd like to see that done first before we scrap the theme for good.
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>>142995410
ca you spoiler me from the LN? im interested in the next story.
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Stories where they get teleported into the fantasy JRPG world are nowhere near as cancerous as the ones where they are reincarnated as a newborn baby with all their memories and full cognitive capabilities intac.
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>>142998659
Loved this. Also for once the reincarnated heroine is a litteral slut who fucked everyone ,MC included.
At least she had an happy life full of sex before MC killed her.
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>>142999302
How about man being turned into loli?
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You want a decent isekai story where reality takes a giant shit in the MC's face y'all gotta read Muv-Luv.
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>>142999603
No, it is shit.
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>>142999439
That has been done. It's some edgy shit though and it's being translated by the Katahane no Riku translator.
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>>142996032
Fair warning: the MC is the most insufferable, whiny bitch of a character ever conceived. I'd rather go read Catcher in the Rye again than read through MuvLuv again.
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>>142999682
I mean animated. Jesus.
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The problem with this genre is how the viewpoint tends to treat the world as the MC's playground instead of a legit fantasy world.
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>>142999710
How does one make it a legit fantasy world
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>>142999727
Fix the narration for starters. Stop with the meta shit.
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>>142999760
>Fix the narration
What do you mean by fix
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Why don't we make our own isekai story? I'll start:
A story where a native is the mc (his only skills are being a thief and having a short-term skill of being fast until tiring out) and his partner is part of the class he got summoned in and he's known as the delinquent? He is left out because he has very average stats in comparison to those who were really blessed (still packs a good punch and kick, can still use magic but they are the most basic beginner spells that don't go beyond but able to use all elements)? They end up being the most isolated but end up being the real heroes.
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>>142999902
>native
>part of the class he got summoned in
???
>blessed
???
>able to use all elements
???
>most isolated
???
>real heroes
???

I'm all on deck for making one with you anon, but your story doesn't make any sense for me.
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>>142999760
Can the MC treat it as his playground at first because reality hasn't quite sunk in yet, only to realize later what a mess he's in?
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>>143000022
It can be like that until the drama starts.
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>>142999661
>>142999603
Let me tell you why this game is shit.

1. It took fucking FOREVER. Even though it's a simple, uncomplicated storyline, they mange to drag this shit out for about 50 fucking hours. Only about 20 of those had anything significant happening, the rest was filled with loldeep moral faggotry and fucking lectures on stupid shit. Not to mention EXPLAINING character development. "This is what happened, this is how I felt before, this how it changed me, blah, blah, blah..." SHUT THE FUCK UP! Yeah, I saw what fucking happened, you don't have to explain it. You're literally undermining any actual character development this game had.

2. THE FUCKING MC! Has to be the most unlikeable retarded fuck in the history in VN history. Spends Extra being a stuck up, arrogant, dick. Spends Unlimited being a unless little bitch. Spends 1/3 of Alternative being an arrogant faggot thinking how better he is than the people who actually changed him from a useless little bitch to someone not utterly useless, giving them lectures, and generally talking about how he's right and they're wrong. THEN, at the first sign of trouble he instantly reverts back to whiny little useless bitch literally pissing in his pants. Then basically spends the rest of the game being pretty fucking useless and retarded. 1. MC: I'm so much more grown up now. That last event really changed me. 2. Other character: But that's wrong you fucking retard 3. Oh how foolish I was! I'm still a child 4. Rinse 5. Repeat. This cycle literally went on till the very last second of the game.
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>>143000068
3. The heroines died in such stupid fucking ways. Meiya and Sumika were really the only ones who had meaningful deaths that weren't completely retarded. "I HAVE TO SACRIFICE MYSELF FOR THE MAN I LOVE! I'M TOO STUPID TO USE THAT THING IN MY HEAD CALLED A BRAIN AND THINK UP A LESS RETARDED WAY!" Not to mention they all died in a span of 20 minutes. It really all seemed like an afterthought. Like the writers we're thinking "Guys! Wtf!? The game is about to end! We need to kill these bitches off already!"

How can anyone rate this game above mediocre? Is the VN community seriosuly full of 12 year olds? "OMG HOT GIRLS FIGHTING ALIENS!" "YEAH!" "OMG LOOK! SHE'S BEING RAPED BY ALIENS!" "FAPFAPFAP" In all honesty I thought Unlimited was much better, even though I only did Meiya's route. Not only did it take like 1/10 of the time, the endings were meaningful and had impact.

tl;dr It's shit. Saying it's the best thing ever has to b
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>>142996387
>flying golden turd
how about no
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>>142999949
> Native.
The true mc.
> Part of the class
The mc's partner.
> Blessed
Rest of the class has some special snowflake ability. Hero especially. Delinquent boy only got beginner skill magic of all elements but cannot go beyond that.
> Most isolated.
They are pretty much together. They get shit done together without help from other parties most of the time. Uninvolved with others.
> Real heroes.
They are the ones that deal the most damage to their enemies. They are the underdogs and get shit done.
This is the idea.
>
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>>142984145
>Why wont it stop?
Because it sells
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>>143000096
>Is the VN community seriosuly full of 12 year olds?
Judging by your posts it's not only the 'VN community'.
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>>142984145
>Look up a new Manga to read
>Find one and read description
>It's a MC ends up in a videogame Manga
Dropped like a hot potato
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>>143000164
I hope you realize you're replying to a stale pasta.
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>>142999531
i'm inclined to agree. Starting off a story by asking the readers to suspend disbelief to the point that newborn babies are thinking about the constructs of reality is kind of a piss-off for me
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>>143000150
Man, having the ability to use all elements isn't really underdog to me. Even having one element is pretty powerful. Just think about that logically for a moment. You'll need to give him some other gimmick or tell me what makes the other class members and enemies so strong.
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>>143000207
Class members can basically "advance" past their magic and use more powerful spells. The delinquent can only use magic of the most basics and very ineffective compared to the magic that the others have. His small flame vs. a larger flame from others and it gets bigger. Power of healing scrapes vs. healing stab wounds. Enemies are able to regenerate (to an extent depending on which demons they are), strong, cast certain types of powerful magic.
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>>143000387
Where we can work on this together, anon
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Videogame mechanics being added to fiction is easily the worst fucking idea possible.
Videogame mechanics exist as a way to simplify things for limited hardware you have to be a special kind of retard to use them as a part of story telling.
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>>143000412
The only problem is how to make the protagonists not become too weak or too strong in a way that they can defeat the enemies.
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>>143000502
We can solve that in any sort of way, but we need some form of contact first.
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>>143000528
Sorry, I'm only adding a list of ideas. I don't know how to make a sentence structure of a story. You are free to take it but I have plenty more where that came from. Maybe be able to improve the premise.
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>>142984145
Why isn't this up on batoto?
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>>143000596
Well, I can write. It's simple really to create situations for not being too weak or too strong, it's all about intent. The premise is already fine.
It's simplified in a single sentence.
>Two boys are isolated from their class of special students and must use their average skills to become real heroes.
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how do you guys feel about Yuusha Gojo Kumiai Kouryuugata Keijiban ?
I like that it goes beyond summoned heroes and heroes in random fantasy lands and includes what magical girls and power rangers, and mechs
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>>143000788
Just one thing.
One native of the isekai world and one from japan.
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>>142985356
it is relatable and easy explained
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>>143000825
Easy enough. Now you can move on to more characters such as the other class members and the antagonist. Or however you want really, if you want guidance, just ask. I'm better at putting things together rather than creating them, but I can do both.
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>>142999597
I want this
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>>143000987
I'm stopping here, I like making a story premise. Just wanted to open an idea.
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>>142988175
What is GOT?
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>>143001112
Really. Felt like your ideas would have been great. Too bad, no one is making their own isekai story.
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>>142999902
Sure.

The MC will be a native girl. She was born in a low class noble family, with a territory so out of nowhere near the borders of the kingdom.

Her parents were lost in the recent war against the demihuman.. She had only her caretakers and servants with her.

She was an intelligent and curious child, reading magic books on her own as she was a mere 8 years old. When she was 11, she was already as proficient in magic as your average mage.

One day, the demihumans invaded, destroying her home and everyone she cared. She only survived because she was attending the school for mages far away from her home. Once again, they took everything from her. She didn't cry however. She turned that pain into a drive to learn all she could about magic and grew strong.

Meanwhile, the kingdom, losing battle left and right, used a forbidden ritual to summon heroes from another world. Done in secrecy, they called some dude from Japan who never wanted to play hero. Being the black ops of mages, they tried to put a mind control spell on him, only to backfire horribly as it drove the man to distrust the kingdom in its entirety. The man ended up joining the demihumans in their conquest as a result.

The girl grew up to be the most powerful mage the kingdom had ever had. When she was 15, she managed to defeat the former strongest mage in a trial battle. High hopes were placed on her to become the person who may just turn the tide of the war around.

Eventually, the girl and the man met in combat. The man was surprised to meet an opponent this strong. He was forced to apply modern knowledge combined with his magic to gain an edge over her. However, the girl would eventually learn his tricks, and then used them herself. Slowly but surely, the invasion was thwarted.

Now, after this point, they may eventually work together when they discover the rotten eggs in both sides that are perpetuating the war.
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>>142986363

There's Ore to Kawazu-san no Isekai Hourouki which is quite fun.

It's basically one punch man set in a fantasy world
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Also, both MCs would have harems, the man having your usual cute beastgrills while the girl would have servants/admirers from both sexes.
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>>143001293
You're going to write all of this and just leave aren't you.
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>>143001391
No, I'm still here.
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>>143001293
MC probably look something like this.
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>>143001399
I like it. The tone isn't set in my head, but it can work.
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>>143001474
The fun would be from the two MCs finding creative ways on using magic.
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>>143001498
Oh yeah? Makes me wonder what kind of magic there is.
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>>143001540
Inspired by GATE and its new ways of using magic when combined with science.
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>>143001569
Exciting, what more would there be to the story?
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>>143001615
It would be an exercise in showing how one side can portray themselves as the good guys over the other.
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>>143001687
Got an end in mind yet? Will they just simply win as the third side and create a utopia? Mend a peaceful contract and end the war? Or perhaps one side will lose?
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What if the MC was teleported into a world with magic, elves, and demons, but it's set in the 41st millennium?
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>>143002164
And what does that even mean?
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>>143002219
That you have never browsed /tg/ before.
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>>142999902
If souls can be transferred across worlds beyond reality, can it replace a loved one's soulless corpse? A sacrifice was made in exchange for the beloved. I bet my soul for a wish that should have never been made. It is not the one I love. Every time I look, my heart turns to stone. For what sacrifice did I make? It tells me that it loves me. Nothing more than a stranger to me. I cannot bear to see it. I "disposed" of it. Or so I thought...?
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>>143001776
Option two would be the most likely.
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>>142986768
Grisaia is pretty much that.
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>>143002539
Confusing, interested in more
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>>142999902
> On the edge of the pond, I held my hands in prayer.
> I had a dream.
> I dreamt of a world.
> A Fantasia.
> A world of magic and mythical beings that coexist with humans.
> And I saw a young boy.
> A girl like me should never dream of being in such a world.
> I look at the reflection of the pond.
> And there I stood, shocked at the scene of the pond.
> There stood Fantasia.
> I must be dreaming.
> I saw the boy again.
> It is all a dream.
> Or so I thought... until he looked back at me.
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>>143002798
I'm thinking of Frankenstein and Picture of Dorian Gray for some reason.
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>>142990402
Lazy Dungeon Master is comfy. As someone who has slept for 12-16 hours many, many times, and as someone who is generally a sloth, I very easily relate and enjoy.
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>>142994694
>>142994738
>>142994775
Gate of Revelation
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The only isekai with a good RPG mechanics that I have read is Slave Harem in the Labyrinth of the Other World, the MC has certain amount of points that he can distribute to acquire classes, stats, etc, so he can do everything but he can't be everything all the time, for example he can create a OP fighter build but if he find someone who is totally resistant to physical damage he would be fucked because he has no magic attacks, too bad the story is slow as shit and the author repeats himself constantly and generally is just low quality writing
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>>142996995
Overlord, shit is literally DnD 3.5
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>>142984145
Did the hate from battle harems shift to another world series?

I wonder what will be next after this
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>>142984145
>even in self insert fantasies girls still just play healers

Can't they ever want to play other classes?
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Are there isekai stories with JRPG mechanics where it turns out that the MC is actually locked in a VR simulation without his knowledge and that's why it behaves like a videogame, and his actions in the game are actually being broadcast live 24/7 as reality television?
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>>142984145
>Why wont it stop?
Because it's a great concept for a story, hopefully we get many more.

>yfw they're almost always light hearted comedies

I'm literally writing a light novel based around the same concept as we speak and there's nothing you can do to stop me OP.
To add honorifics and japanese names or not to add honorifics and japanese names.
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>>143003621
Battle harems in alternate worlds
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>>143003631
Kumoko-chan play a dandy old man speed focused fighter
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>>142995841
no.
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>>143003633
If there was, I'm sure people would only be watching his stream to say "this loser actually thinks he's been reborn in another world just like a trashy narou-type webnovel wwwwww"
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>>143003631
Why doesn't she have nails?
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>>143003640
Let me guess. You write it on Royalroadl like a faggot.
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Yureka was good when it was about a young man falling in love with an AI.
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any japanese isekai novel when people fucking like rabbits and shit?

the chinks sure are better as masturbating stories than the japs, at least it's more digestible with sex scenes and stuff.

btw, I recommend reading 六朝清羽記, the story is rather well created for an adult novel.
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>>143003797
She does.
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>>142995571
Didn't Nanahoshi ask MC of Mushoku Tensei if he was American/European since he was clearly from Earth but reborn into a white body?
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>For an instant Sophia-san has a vacant expression of surprise on her face, and after that her face turns red in a flash. She throws a glare at Felmina-san and,

>「Don’t get cocky because you were called with -chan!」

>The heck? Felmina-”chan”, eh! I’d never have expected -chan. For THAT goshujin-sama, to AMIABLY, use -CHAN!

>Sigh. Calm down, me. Recently, haven’t I become a bit strange when it comes to goshujin-sama?
Why is Sophia-chan so tsundere for her spider mother?
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>>143004004
Jesus fuck, that horrible writing.
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>>142984145
I'd prefer if they were just transported to a normal fantasy world.
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>>143003836

I forget the name but there's a manga about a guy who gets transported to another world and gets the job 'sex slaver'. He has to fuck women in order to control them.

I'm sure another anon knows the name.
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>>142984145
The Kuro No Maou light novel doesn't have him as a special snowflake, in fact people with the same power set are being manufactured.
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>>142989264
Girls can like fantasy adventure too anon.
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>>142992529
World's End Harem.
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>>142997800
>If you can't fuck you can't be a badass

How is your life going mindless drone?
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>>142985356
Because RPGs are fun
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>>143004545
into a world
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>>143004566
http://novel18.syosetu.com/n7623br/
Isekai story where MC gets sent into a nukige as a girl, so he goes out to get raped by everything.
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>>142999597
>How about man being turned into loli?
This one?

>>143000798
I really like Hero BBS and Isekai Shokudo.
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>>143004256
Himekishi ga classmate?
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>>143004638
>introduction
>the author says he's going to use Japanese jokes even though it's another world
>think of it as a translation

Tolkien, he is not.
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>>143004638
Oh, and the whole thing is also cancelled, both the web series and the published novel.
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>>143004638
>from 2011

The cancer had already started long ago. We just didn't notice.
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>>143004853
No the hivemind just hadn't told you you have to hate it to fit in yet
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>>143004433
>not understanding what alpha dog and beta dog are
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What is considered the grand daddy of isekai story?
Is it wizard of oz?
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>>142984145
why dont you read something good for once
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Dalbic-Jogaksa/Ch-001-Read-Online?id=221231
http://japtem.com/lms-volume-1/
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>>143004907
If I wanted something good I wouldn't be reading shit from Japan
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>>143004929
Good news, this is korean
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>>143004907
>LMS
>more gary stu than kirito
>good
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As shitty as elevens' self-insert fantasy is, it's still better than chink self-insert fantasy.

>pills pills pills
>you looked at me funny, now your whole clan dies!
>more pills
>random divine items drop out of nowhere
>special conveniently-timed powerups before each new tier of enemy
>random corpses doing random things
>infinite tiers of enemies getting more and more ridiculous
>did I mention pills?
>gaining enlightenment from corpses
>I died but then I took some pills and came back
>pills made from corpses
>you asked me a question, now everyone in the country dies!
>divine pills

etc etc etc
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I've only been into anime for 4 years or so now and I'm finding patterns like in OP's post. Hell I make it a game to read through descriptions of upcoming anime every season and see how many fall into these patterns. Such as
>quirky self insert thrown into the unknown
>production line digital artstyle
>busty frail girls wielding weapons
>gory and edgy appearance for compensation of not having an actual compelling story and characters
I know that some of these shows do manage to get entertaining eventually and are at least watchable. But it feels so stagnant. It's like every anime studio hired people that went to the same schools who learnt to draw and write the exact same type of show. I also know things need to be marketable and taking risks with something original is always a potential for failure. Seems the only anime I'm enjoying now are manga adaptations that got given the green light becausd they already had a small or large dedicated following.
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>>142985356
Because those who write stories about being transported into a different world are obviously not a creative bunch
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>>142992529
They are all annoying.
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Agreed. Overlord, Re:Monster, even shit like Helck is pure trash and they're the only thing I filter on /a/
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>>143005636
Welcome on /a/, now you can leave and go back to tumblr, reddit or whatever shithole you have come from.
Said from someone who hates Re:monster with all his being.
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>>143005710
>He doesn't filter threads about shitties manga

What? If thoses threads are worthless, what's wrong with hiding them? It makes finding the actual good threads easier.
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>>142994314
Why does this feel like it ripped off Only Sense Online?
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>Still no isekai series where the MC is reborn as an NPC
>A slice of life disguised as an isekai
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>>143006074
It did.At leadt MC is not gay.
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>>143006151
Sounds like recipe for Orc bandit rape unless he lives in the city.
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>>143006151
There is the chink blacksmith one.
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Drifters is the best Isekai
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Isekai Detective Conan when?
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>>142996394
WMT isekai would be a treat.
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>>143005111

This sounds hilarious. Where do you find this garbage?

Also why pills of all things?
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>>142994461
One of the best isekai manga for me so far. Really enjoyed the first arc.
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>>143006272
Incest smith Isekai when ?
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>>143007167
Considering their emperor ate mercury pills to gain immortality magic pills should not surprise you.
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>>143003702
>Kumoko-chan will never find a muscular, dandy brave-man-of-the-sea husbando

It hurts
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And wat happened to that manga where the girl trns intoa a spider ?

that one is fun.
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>>142990402
It've been reading this ever since I saw this post and it's pretty fun. Thanks anon!
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>>143007167
that describes a lot of chink shit.
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>>143005089
It was still fucking hilarious reading about him taking an ethics exam and thinking he'd passed easily.
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>>142984145
Are there any stories about Onee-chan trapped in her perverted brother's hentai games?
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>>143007167
>where do you find
literally everywhere, they are always on the top rank lists of those web novel sites. Find some decent novels in those huge pile of shits is hard, but pretty rewarding at least compare to the same low quality shit from japs.
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>>142986561
Konosuba. Actually, everyone in that group is hot garbage.
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>>143007305

>Considering their emperor ate mercury pills to gain immortality magic pills should not surprise you.
That's retarded that can't possibly be tr-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang#Death_and_post-mortem_events
Ha ha oh wow. Between this guy and the other guy trying to go to space in a rocket chair China's got the looniest Emperors.

But really, how did fucking pills become a trend? There's no way it's all based on this one instance.
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>>142999531
It's the opposite for me. I'm sick and tired of the edgy highschool MC teleportation WNs that usually have the same pattern.

MT was at least unique in what it did. The problem are the 90% of the WNs that try to mimic it but fail.

But still the reincarnation ones were much more interesting for me like Yojou Senki, Mushoku, Goblin Kingdom, Akuyaku Tensei, I
Reincarnated Into a Vending Machine(THE BEST) etc, the variety is just much greater.
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>>143005111
>muh caves
>muh cultivation
>muh courting death
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>>143007877
>I Reincarnated Into a Vending Machine(THE BEST)

What
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>>142984145
I still can't believe that shit has become it's own genre. That sort of thing needs a one or two word name.
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>>143007877
The "reincarnated as a baby" stories invariably dedicate their earliest chapters to the same thing too. The part where as a baby the MC gets off to being breastfed, the part where everyone marvels over the kid being a genius, and the part where some female childhood friend crushes on the MC.

You know, that masturbatory self-congratulatory self-insert fantasy for otaku.
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>>143008256
>narou-type isekai shit
It has a name.
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>>143008436
Thank you. I keep seeing the same plot summary to describe all these fucking series.
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>>142985467
Kill yourself faggot。
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>>142985467
Haha! your tears are delicious
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>>143008491
The alternative name in English is just "transportation/reincarnation" stories. The JRPG part is implied by simple association.
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>>142994450
>>142989944
Amusingly, while Sword Art Online is not really a isekai transportation/reincarnation story at first, the Alicization arc is really pushing it.

>MC gets stabbed, passes out, and wakes up in an unfamiliar world
>where the videogame elements of the world are treated as magic by the inhabitants
>as a VRMMO master he has the cheat power of knowing all the SAO sword skills beforehand
>he also happened to have lived out a second childhood in this world during which he picked up a kawaii female bananajimminy
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>>143008717
I dropped SAO after the incest romance started

How bad does it get?
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>>142984145
>Welsh person is scientifically teleported into a steampunk world with Assassin's Creed mechanics where they get uselessly overspecialized powers that they share with other people
Better?
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>>142995440
There are a couple of those too, you just didn't go out of your way to look for them.
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>>143008856
I actually liked the PTSD sniper arc because it was really about Shino coming to terms with shooting a man, while Kirito becoming a Jedi was just the backdrop.

Alicization arc was alright, the concept of the world was interesting and the story of how Quinella became the Administrator was a decent shot at an AI/poor system design cautionary tale, so it was fine right up until the part where Kirito goes comatose from electrocution and then it just devolves into DBZ powerlevels and Japanese /pol/ anti-USA anti-China anti-Korea shitflinging.
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>>143009023
>>143008856
Oh yeah forgot about the AIDS-chan arc. That was okay too even if the doctors were violating patient confidentiality laws left and right.
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>Story where people are in a game and the villain is in it for shits and giggles because its a game never
>Revelation that the human-like AI are just really good imitations and everyone agrees the MC is an idiot for treating them like people never

Seriously why is it that in all these stories if the villain is also a person then he's an irl edgelord that abuses his family's power when in reality a well adjusted guy might just want to act like an evil overlord if the only repercussion is pissing off some teenage that should really consider going an hero.
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>>143008256
Look up "LitRPG".

It's pretty big in Russia.
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>>143000798
Love it as well. Damn the ending however.
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>>143000798
fun to read but weak as a manga (art style and paneling). Plot itself is too shallow, but then again it's not fair to expect something like Hinamatsuri from it
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>>143009120
>even if the doctors were violating patient confidentiality laws left and right.
while probably that was dumb and just the author being ignorant, i can imagine that doctors in asia probably have more "power" in deciding for you
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>>143009564
There was also the part where they treated AIDS with a very 80s attitude, ignoring all the advancements we've made in preventing transmission and treating the disease since then. Anime had to add some lines explicitly labeling it as a multiple drug resistant strain.
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>>143008717
>yfw Quinella is more competent than 99% of isekai villains
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>>143009729
You can also view her as the hero(ine) of stories like Re:Monster where the MC keeps accumulating more and more power.
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>>143008717
>bananajimminy
A what? Is that some kind of euphemism?
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>>143008501
>>143008563
Found the Gaia members.

>dat butthurt
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>>143008717
>he also happened to have lived out a second childhood in this world during which he picked up a kawaii female bananajimminy

Eugeo wins in the end though.
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>>143009981
I thought he lost and his memory of losing is how Quinella got him to turn to the dark side.
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English original light novels, you say?
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Just make your own isekai if you're dissatisfied with the ones available.
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>>143010287
>tfw reading stories on fictionpress

Mother of Learning isn't an isekai, but time loops are great.
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>>142988175
What would a SAO and DKR plane scene crossover be like?
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>>143010266
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>>143010326
>fictionpress

It all looks like crap, how do you sort it to find the top shit?
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>>143007877
Dropped it somewhere after MC wanted to prevent France's evacuation but got stopped by his superiors thrice in a row after almost single-handedly causing the collapse of the Line
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>>143010669
I don't. I only read things exclusively off recs from there.
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>>143010266
>About the Author
>Eliezer Yudkowsky is the author of Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, the most-reviewed Harry Potter fanfiction on the entire internet as of 2015. He's a decision theorist who has done some work on theories of reflective probability, and is unable to prevent this from infecting even his most frivolous writing. He considered trying to pass off this book as the anonymous Internet translation of a Japanese light novel that mysteriously nobody would be able to find, but gave upon the idea after he realized that this work was going to be very clearly traceable to him.
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>people actually defend lazy storytelling like this
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>>143010794
Yudkowsky is one of the god-kings of internet autists. It's probably funny.
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>>143010266
Dunno, I liked Daybreak even if the writer takes ages to write new chapters and the whole first volume is Hogwarts nonsense.
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>>143010456
>>143010266
Time to spam /lit/ with this.
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Did Konosuba pioneer isekai sub-genre with more comedic tone? From .hack to Shieldbro, most of the stories revolve over muh shonen adventure.
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>>143011147
>Shieldvictim
>shonen
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I like the isekai Maou one because the MC manages to be badass and a beta at the same time. It always makes me laugh.
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>>142996995
Harry Potter and the Natural 20?
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>>142984145
or maybey just got creative with it
maybey its a banker that gets transporter there and uses his modern knowledge of money and shit to become a successful trader
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>>143011355
That fanfic is more about comedy over powerwanking. It's absolutely hilarious if you're a DnD player.

And the author just had to stop updating...
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>>143011147
Gifting didn't pioneer shit, it just got lucky.
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>>143010669
You don't. The fun part of that place is to find all the weird shit posted there.
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I hope the licensing of Death March, Overlord, and Gifting by Yen Press isn't a harbinger of some kind of larger attempt by Kadokawa to force more isekai crap novels on the English-speaking market.
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>>143011202
Fine, edgy alpha male adventure.
>>143011441
But compared to other titles, it stood out different, doesn't that mean it hadn't been tried before?
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>>143011505
>But compared to other titles, it stood out different, doesn't that mean it hadn't been tried before?

There are literally hundreds of shit like it on Narou.
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>>143011505
Kill yourself
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>>143011505
Gifting got lucky in getting picked over dozens of other stories like it, nothing is unique, get over it.
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>>142984145
Re:zero is cancer.
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>>142988335
Grimgar is different because it's not a Web Novel narou shit
Narou stuff are by definition powerdriven fantasy
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>>143011655
>Narou stuff are by definition powerdriven fantasy

Not necessarily. I found a chill story about an orphan in a fantasy world once.
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>>143011648
The shitposting is even more cancerous.
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>>143007695

ancient chinese herbal remedy forces, it is still a common belief that rhino horns have magic medicinal properties and other such nonsense.
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>>143011598
Well, it is the flagship of the isekai genre, from what I've seen. Or was it SAO?
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>>143012772
It's not the flagship of anything, it's a simple parody in a sea of parodies.
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>>143010456
This one at least has better art than the other one
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>>143012772
The flagship is MT
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>>142984145
read it.
I wonder why she doesn't just imagine cast a spell to get teleported back to her world.
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>>143013044
>>143012981

I was saying that KonoSuba spurs more isekai works into getting an anime, and of course, I'm wrong. It was just a lucky shot.
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Isekai stuff has been completed in the 90's, no need to try anything else

-Protagonist is a shy woman during the day, a perverted DS-lite guy during the night
-was summoned from Japan to a world of fantasy
-pilot a super robot
-main heroine is a loli futa princess
-incest
-yuri
-trap character
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>>142985467
This. Elevens totally have submission infused deep into their very existence, but it's getting out of hand pretty fast with these kind of over-powered characters that still act beta as fuck.
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>>143013331
>act beta as fuck
>someone who clearly doesn't read isekai because they most definitely are not beta
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>>143013425
>>someone who clearly doesn't read isekai
and why should he? its all garbage
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>>143013797
You don't get to criticise shit without having eaten it.
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>Subgenre I don't like but instead of reading something I do like I complain

Why wont it stop?
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>>143011505
>edgy alpha male adventure
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>>143014973
Post edgy animal girls.
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>>142984145
Thanks for sharing OP, I liked.
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>>142985356
Because writer played too much Dragon quest as a kid
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>>142985356
It means they don't have to put effort into world building because any holes in the setting are easily filled with the audience's own knowledge of fantasy RPGs.
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>>143015077
Maou is best girl. Prove me wrong.
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>>143016425
Not a loli
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>>143016716
Maou is a red haired loli.
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>>143016773
Not a loli
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>>143016853
She is a loli. I just told you what she looks like.
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>>143016996
So apart of having shit taste you're a fucking retard, ok then.
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>>143017110
What? She's not best girl because she is a loli? You have any idea why she is best girl? Please, what the bunny ever did for mc never comes close to what Maou did.
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>>143008717
Speaking of Alicization,

>>143016670

Wonder how many years this will run for seeing as the Alicization arc is as long as the entire rest of SAO combined.
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>>143017492
She's not best girl because she stop being a loli, you fucking retard
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