Yahari Oregairu

>>142961324
Don't worry Hachiman will.

yukino will

>>142961324
>smoker
>drinker
Yeah no

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PREMIUM VIRGIN CHRISTMAS CAKE!

Yuckyno a shit. She is a bad friend for trying to get at Hikki despite him being her best friends love. Yui has already scoped Hikki out and decided on him.

>>142962428
If anything it's Yui who is shit. All of the things you just said, apply more to Yui than Yukino.

>>142961324
Too fucking desperate and pathetic.

>>142962546
Yui loved Hikki first. Yukkino only started to like him near the christmas event. 8man is Yui's by rights.

>>142961324
How old is she?

>>142963065
Yui only likes him because he saved her dog.

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Sensei got the 8man first. Yui only liked him after he began helping her club, and Ruri only liked him after he helped her and told her hat is cute. Sensei has the most seniority and the highest level!

>>142963139
Yukino only "likes" him because she is dependent on him. She isn't actually in love the same way Yui is.

Yui likes him because she got to know him after joining the club.

>>142963420
But that's the thing. Yui never gets to know anything about Hachiman, so clearly that's not true.

>>142963505
Yui learns his behavior and what sort of person he is. She knows who he is even if some things are a mystery. She loves him all the more for who he is. She will win and deserves him. Yukino should date Hayama or Pan-san or somshit.

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>>142961324
He already did

>>142961324
Don't worry /a/, I've got you coverd.
I will take care of her.

>>142963629
Why are you getting so angry? At the end of ANOTHER, Hachiman thinks to himself that what he and Yui have isn't genuine. Hachiman and Yui's relationship isn't one based on two people getting to know each other and falling in love with one another for who they really are. It's mostly physical and Yui forcing Hachiman to uphold his promises.

>>142963841
>Why are you getting so angry?
I am not angry in the least.

> At the end of ANOTHER, Hachiman thinks to himself that what he and Yui have isn't genuine
He wonders if it is. Genuine isn't that big of a deal since Yukino is the one who swallowed her feelings for him just because hshe saw Yui and 8man together once.

> It's mostly physical and Yui forcing Hachiman to uphold his promises.
Yui hasn't been physical with 8man even once. 8man made the promises and he is the type that needs to be coaxed into romance. 8man has gone on Yui's route in ANOTHER and it is a good end for all.

Don't you want Yukino to be happy? She loves Pan-san so she would probably be okay dating a real life one.

>>142963139
She said that she will still fall for him even if they had met any other way

>>142964177
I don't know you seem mighty upset. Either way, Hachiman and Yui's love isn't real and it's not something that is going to last. Once volume 12 comes out, you'll find out why that's the case.

>>142964234
She said that she would have fallen for him if she had been sent to the Service Club and if he had helped her. So there's teo requirements for Yui's love to exist:
1. Hachiman helping her.
2. Yui being sent to the Service Club.

Yui got sent to the Service Club to make cookies for the boy that saved her dog during the car accident. You do the math.

>>142963125
She was 26 at the start of the series, but now she's 27.

>>142961324
I vote 8man. He can get the best ending, he deserves it.

>>142964301
I wonder what's Yukino's requirements?

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>>142964379
It would have taken a lot of work no matter how you look at it. Like Hachiman, it's not easy for Yukino to fall in love.

>>142964491
>>142964301
Yui would never even pay him any thought unless he made an impression on her. She said it herself she thinks that it was inevitable wshe would love him. Also Yui cares about genuine so she isn't divorced from the concept.

>>142964491
Why do people think Yukino isn't in love? Fricking Yuifags.

>>142964668
You answered your own question.

>>142964622
>Yui would never even pay him any thought unless he made an impression on her
Exactly. He saved her dog, he made an impression on her.

>Also Yui cares about genuine so she isn't divorced from the concept
Now I really know you have no idea what you are talking about.

>>142961893
She will stop if you love her.

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>derailed cake thread
Let's put this back on track.

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>>142961923
>lived with a gigolo
>virgin

>>142966982
Maybe he was a prude giggolo.

>replies: 32
>images: 6
This is what happens when you spam the same thread everyday.

>>142965143
Yui cares about genuine. In fact if it was between genuine and getting railed by 8man she would pick genuine.

>>142968964
Just like she picked that in ANOTHER, right? Yuifag please.

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>>142966938
This, sensei is best

>>142969083
There wasn't any choice between getting Hikki's cock and getting genuine in ANOTHER.

>>142961324
How can the other girls can even compete

>>142961893
>cherry-kun

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No matter what happens at least 8man won't come between their friendship.

>>142969218
So Yui and genuine are incompatible.

>>142969550
No. Genuine can happen between the three in ANOTHER if Yukino lets it. How would Yui be incompatible with genuine?

I am just saying that there is no barrier between 8man's dick and genuine in ANOTHER. She wouldn't want to be his woman without genuine.

>>142969808
So then you simply don't understand the narrative. In order for Hachiman to end up with Yui, he had to give up on wanting something genuine.

What would marriage with Sensei be like?

>>142970375
Why is that? Why would going for Yui mean he loses out on genuine?
Genuine isn't Yukino's pussy, it isn't romance to her or him.

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>>142971049
Pretty great I'd imagine

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>yfw the OVA was delayed from next month to October

I wonder what it'd feel like to bust a nut inside Sensei while Yukino and Yui are watching?

>>142971361

But who would be the one wearing the pants? I wouldn't mind being sensei's househusband while she becomes the main breadwinner.

>Both Shinmai Maou and Yahari end with the Cakes winning
I really hope they both set off the trend, imagine 10 years of Cakes finally winning.

>>142972604
This

8man has no romantic feelings for Yukino. He has only tried to befriend her

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cake end ONEGAI

>>142972939

What will be the first post-Shinmai and Yahari Cake anime to set off the trend?

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>>142972604
But Yumiko is going to win.

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>>142975575
She'd better win. After getting her pregnant 8man ought to take responsibility.

>>142975611
How unfortunate that she didn't go without panties

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>>142975798
>nopan
She's pure and you know it.

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>>142975843
>Yumiko
>Pure

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>>142975962
That is correct.

Wtf is another anyways ?

>Yui would do all this for Hikki's dick
Not even. She stepped on Yukino's neck and had 8man abandon genuine just for hand holding and another date. I can't imagine what she would do for his actual love.

Why can't people just accept that Yui is not a nice girl?

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The only GENUINE ending is Haruno marrying 8man.

>>142969345
He might come between their vaginas.

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>>142976655

>>142976655
I know Gahama-san wants that but what about Yukino-Chan?

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>>142975962
She is pure and so fucking cute

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>>142978823
Yeah well she also has 8man's baby growing inside her.

>>142976655
Why is polygamy illegal again?

>>142977773
I don't know. 8man has dead fish, rotten eyes and a rotten outlook on life. He wants something genuine too. I am not sure if Yukino-chan likes that sort of guy.

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>>142979443
When will Harunon start calling her Yukinon for a giggle?

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>>142979928
Real question is when Haruno will seduce 8man in front of both Yukino and Yuigahama?

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>>142980262
He has high natural resistance toward seductresses.

Or so he claims. He's weak to that minx Saika-chan.

>>142961893
I don't mind drinking, but she'd have to stop smoking.

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>>142980382
>but she'd have to stop smoking.
Would you rather her smoke cock instead?

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>>142980337
True, but if Haruno persists, he will eventually break down and fuck Haruno right there and then in front of them.

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>>142961324
First girl rule, she will win

>>142981013
That is a guaranteed nice boat. I don't think Haruno likes him for anything more than Yukino bait.

>>142981666

Can't argue with those satanic trips /a/non.

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"Does my butt look big in this Onii-chan?"

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Oh, it is best girl's birthday.

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>>142983825
Yeah. I'm sure Yui is very happy.

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>>142983874
She just won the Hikki bowl and it is her birthday. 8man was being mean by saying she wasn't good at things in that scene.

Could you stop spamming? No one cares. Your other thread died out for the same reason.

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>>142984034
Eat shit Yuckynofag.

>>142962428
Imagine Yui and Hacking as a couple. They'd be miserable and have jackshit to do together. Yui can't hold a conversation

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>>142975962
Pure maiden

>>142975575
>>142975611
>>142975843
>>142975997
>>142978823
>>142979066
>>142985118
I feel sorry for her. i'm willing to bet that the cunt won't ever return her feelings.

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>>142984661
They didn't seem miserable at all in vol R. In fact the entire club was happy and there was no bullshit. 8man and Yui make a cute couple.

http://exhentai.org/g/622943/a18e7a4481/

>>142985922
I don't like the artstyle in that one.

>>142986070
This, unfortunately it is the only 8man X Hiratsuka Doujin availabe on the sadpanda, and I sincerely wish that there were more of them available to read on there

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Yui is by far the best girl in the show. I like her and I hope WW does the right thing.

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>>142988005
FUCK YUI

>>142988394
That's the idea

>>142963065
doesn't work that way anon. Hachiman is free to choose a girl that loved him for far less long. Yui has no claim to Hachiman, and moreover hasn't confessed to him.

>>142963420
Dependent for what? Yukino lives alone and doesn't need to be by Hachiman 24x7. He comes up solutions for the club. Yukino only needs to decide what she wants in life; one of those things is Hachiman which is fine.

>>142964622
laughable to suggest Yui cares about genuine with her solution in vol 11/episode 12. She said she'd be "fine with a lie" as long as she gets what she wants.

>>142984485
Iroha's arc is done in the main series, she's irrelevant now

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>>142988411
GOOD IDEA

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the ending is pretty clear already

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>>142989138

Yep, the only question is whether Yuki-mom will attend Yukino/Hachiman's wedding.

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>>142989322
Yukino might tell mom to piss off

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for Hachiman's eyes only

Why didn't Yui just tell Yukino the truth? All of this shit could have been avoided if Yui told Yukino that 8man's dick is the only thing she is in the club for and if Yukino touches him they aren't friends anymore.

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I like Yukino the most, but only in the sense of a 2D girl. Truth be told these sorts of romances work because you never really see "20 years later" situations.

Yukino is the sort of girl who will seem fine, then you marry her and have a kid and then she instantly turns into a psycho. Because she is destined to be like her mother, no matter how badly she doesn't want to be. It's involuntary and ingrained deeply in her upbringing. She is going to be ultra controlling and manipulative.

She will make Hachiman miserable someday, but nevertheless she is still best girl.

>>142990030
She's the most intelligent, most beautiful, and comes from the most successful family.

Realistically 8man will never find a better woman than her.

Plus she's nothing like her mother. For her to suddenly turn into her mother is very unlikely given how much character development has happened already and how much will happen in volume 12.

>>142990265

> she's nothing like her mother
Oh won't you be surprised. Everyone knows Yuki-mom is Yukino's final form.

>>142985265

but she's a cunt herself acting like some head of the pack or something.

>>142962837
>mfw all teachers are like this like there's a reason why teachers have low salaries amirite?

>>142963248
why didn't you protected RumiRumi's smile /a/non?

>>142963248

It's very simple for Hachiman. Get with middle Yukino (Yukino), keep old Yukino (Sensei) on the side as FWB, gradually raise young Yukino (Rumi) to be perfect, then leave middle Yukino for young when she comes of age.

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ending ga, mieta zo!

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>>142990708

From that to juggling multiple girls all vying for the 8inch by vol 11. 8man has come a long ways.

>>142990265
Without going into blogpost territory, it will happen Anon. The teenage years are nice, everything is new but you think you've got it all figured out. You're gonna jump that hurdle together and transcend her shitty upbringing. Then one day, probably a couple of years down the line, you'll do something to hurt her. Of course, it's not on purpose, you feel terrible. Then you notice something in the way she lashes out, something familiar. You don't point it out because that's a recipe for disaster and you're already in the dog house as it is. As the years pass, little by little, you see more of that ugly side rear it's head. Of course she apologises after every outburst but the words have already left her lips and the damage is done. You understand why her father drinks. You sometimes think about leaving but you've been with this person for almost a decade, starting at a very moment you learnt to be an adult. Even if you did leave, she's changed you forever. You can't comprehend life without her at this point, and you're pretty sure deep down she's the same. You're stuck, you can't leave, you can't stay, so you just watch shitty high school romance anime and savour the happy moments when they come.

>>142961324
She is fucking perfect. Would insta marry her.

>>142991060
In the words of John Milton:
>The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell or a hell of heaven.
You make of your surroundings what you choose to.

On a separate note, humans beings will adapt or die. There's no middleground. If you have trapped yourself in this cage that you've described then it is because doing so was the only way for you to move forward and survive.

Instead of focusing on how to overcome it, instead focus on changing your situation so that your means of survival also change. In doing so your priorities, your mental state, and the way you interact with the world will all change.

Plus the whole point of the series is finding the real thing. You can't treat their relationship like it's a normal one because they specifically went out of their way to avoid a normal relationship.

>>142988965
Yui saved the possibility of genuine and got the club out of their rut. Yui does care about it. She wouldn't be okay with her pan going through.

8man prefers girls who are energetic, kind, and have big Yuis. He doesn't like girl who have small Yukinos, long black hair, and he isn't into legs.

>>142992677
He also hates genuine things and loves superficiality. Lets also not forget that 8man is a party animal who loves social situations and can't stand quiet atmospheres or deep conversations.

>>142992677
Honestly, I'm all for Yui winning, but Yukino is definitely his type. I mean come the fuck on.

Yui WILL NOT win by looks, that will not happen, period. Change your approach.

>>142990822

On a comfy day a boy is sitting peacefully on the back of his school. One day the 3Dserpent enticed him that such life is boring and is the life led by unproductive, kissless virgins who only dwell in their mom's basement. Thus the boy did the most idiotic life choice he could ever do, which is to enter the realm of 3d drama and bullshit. Now he's far from living the comfy life he used to have just a few months back.

Like the lost lamb that he is, he can still rejoice in the good news that if would only repent, turn his back from the 3d realm, God is all forgiving that he can go back to the comfy life he used to lead. As it is written, Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto him.

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>>142992796
She has way bigger tits and she isn't a selfish bitch. Moot point though, Yukino doesn't like 8man that way so nothing would come if he had a preference for her.

>>142992744
Stop being a retard who says the opposite of what is true. Yui's feelings are genuine.

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>>142993496
>Yukino doesn't like 8man that way
Oh dear. Why must people deny it?

>>142989138
>>142989322
Has anyone told Yukino you aren't supposed to marry Pan-san? He is for soft cuddling, not marriage.

Are Yuifags the new cancer?

>>142961324
she's the ending 8man deserves

>>142980588
this is my life long dream

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>>142993897
Yuifags aren't cancer, they like Yui after all. Yui is love.

>>142993897
yuifags believe in pure love
yukinofags believe in fake love
senseifags believe in real love
but we're all faggots in the end no matter the outcome

>>142995295
Why do you think Yukino is the fake one? Her route is the only one that involves "the real thing".

>>142981128
I hope so anon

>>142994288
You want to be the one smoking the cock?

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Just fuck Saika already, seriously.

>>142995990
other way around my friend

>>142963721
Best couple, his imouto is also part of their relationship

>>142995644
Her "love" is based off of dependency and is transient. A fake blip on her life map. Yui's love is true and real.

>>142993496
They should take turns riding 8man's face and his 8 inch. That will show him.

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>>142996652
Don't fool yourself, anon. They're kindred spirits. They've always shared an understanding of each other and its their bond that has given each of them the strength to carry on in these often stressful and personally involved tasks that the service club is given.

Throughout it all their relationship has only been growing stronger & their understanding of each other has gotten deeper. Given their age and their frequent interaction its only natural for some mutual romantic interest to develop.

I hope volume 12 can convince you if it ever actually gets released. Until then you're free to speculate as you wish.

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>>142998644

>>142998644
Yukino doesn't like him. In ANOTHER she wasn't even bothered by Yui and him being close whereas it killed Yui in the main series.

Where is the evidence that Yukino likes him? We have more evidence that Yukino likes Hayama.
Yui is 8mam's waifu anyways.

>>142998411
would have a drink with

>final bluray was delayed
>vol 13 nowhere to be seen
>VN/OVA pushed back to October

Hell is going on with this series? Did WW have a mental breakdown?

>>142961893
I don't mind if she drinks. But if she even takes one puff of a cigarette, she's gone

>>142999084
>ever drinking alcohol for any reason
It's like you hate having a clear mind and being generally perceptive of your surroundings and situation.

>>142999257
>not using moderation
>not enjoying the little things in life
ok man

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Best grill coming through

>>142999396
more like back up girl

>>142999115
>VN/OVA pushed back to October
T-Tell me you're lying

>>142999771
He's not
http://blog.5pb.jp/oregairu/?p=171

>>142976812
am i really supposed to believe that this sexy beast is a loner and isn't constantly swimming in puss.

>>142999084
more like would drink from

>>142979113
It is negative for social cohesion and civilization.

>>142999364
Alcohol is pretty bad for you regardless of the moderation, but >>142999257
is taking it a bit too far as well.

Fuck 8dick
Fuck Yuki
Fuck Yui
Fuck other retarded characters
Fuck Watari

>>143004427
Tobe fuck Iroha

>>142995195
Oh, she looks like Ram. poor girl...

>>142961324
I WILL NOT
27 IS TOO OLD TO MARRY
SENSEI WILL DIE ALONE

>>142962428
>>142962546
They're both shit and slightly nuts. Yukino having family baggage and being a social autist is being presented as appealing for some reason when it isn't, and Yui is just a straightforward thirsty slut.

8man understands how his overly cynical attitude leads to him misunderstanding things entirely now + he even has friends and isn't a loner anymore, he should just drop both of these dumb whores already and enjoy the rest of his school life. If only Sensei was ever sober enough to actually just say this to his face.

>>143005851
The whole point is to look past what other people think of someone and decide what you yourself think of them.

If you only open yourself up to people that are universally liked and blend in with the crowd then you're severely limiting your options.

In fact in the description I just provided you're far more likely to find a narcissist or a psychopath than anything else.

>>143005851
>having family baggage and being a social autist is being presented as appealing for some reason when it isn't
it works better in 2D than in 3D, to be fair
ignore all the people who say that Yahari is realistic in any way, because it isn't. Any shred of that was thrown out of the window with Hachiman's "genuine" speech.

>>143005987
Not sure what anything you said has anything to do with my post or the posts I was replying to. I'm not talking about forcing yourself to blend in and I'm not talking about only going off of what other people think either, 8man's more secure in himself as a person in general than he's ever been even. Doesn't need to end up with either Yui or Yukino to establish that, it's done already.

>>143005990
I guess.

>>143006163
It does have to end up that way because it's a romance story. Despite the guys who keep saying that it isn't and try to make the series out to be deeper than it is. It's in the fucking title of the series.

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>>142961324

>it's a "attractive woman who's somehow undesirable because she's 24+"

>>143006163
Evidently you don't like either of the two main girls much so that's why you feel like that - 8man's not the only one with a character arc to wrap up, they both do as well

>>143006263
She's literally 27 years old. At that age she's really getting too old to be loved. Soon she's going to have to start buying grave plots and thinking about retirement.

>>143004596
So does she have a Mega Evolution?

>>143006263
If Hachiman were a couple years older it'd be seen as less of an issue I think, even if the same age difference were present.

>>142996098
THIS

saika is best girl

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>>143006442
Yeah, I mean shit, Saika is so far the only person to see the 8inch

>>143005851

>>143006337
It's the same guy that has been saying the same shit for some time now.

https://desustorage.org/a/search/text/yukino%20appealing/

He just doesn't like the main girls.

>>143006821
>It's the same guy that has been saying the same shit for some time now.
All these threads consist of are the same people saying the same shit over and over again.

>>143006908
Sure, but I'm just pointing out that this particular guy doesn't like the main girls and always tries insulting them in the same manner.

>>142961324
marrying any girl over 21 is a scam

>>143005851
>Yui is just a straightforward thirsty slut.
How is she a slut? She is a virgin and only has her eyes on one man. She is not thirsty either since she is desperate for his cock.

>>143007348
I meant to say that she is NOT desperate for his cock.

>>143007425
No need to worry. You got it right the first time, you didn't need to correct yourself.

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"Hey Hikigaya, want a ride?"

>>143008598
Would he have to blow her or offer his ass?

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>>143008756
Both

>>142998918
Go away Yuipollfag

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>>143006361

Better have at that cake before it goes bad.

>>142993897
They have been the cancer since the very beginning.

They're all the Chihofags from HataMaou who are still butthurt that their girl lost to the flatchested perfection that is Emi-chan

>>143006571
He seems to like what he saw.

Maybe it's bigger than 8inch?

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>>142998918
>This faggot cites ANOTHER as credible source even though it differs GREATLY from the original work

That's not how citations work faggot

>>143010858
Possible.

>>143010522
Sauce on that Mango /a/non?

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>>143011252

Denpa Onna

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>>143012054
Thanks

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>>143012175
Cosplay girl is best, for the record.

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>>143006571
Yui and Yukino probably saw good outline of it during the strip card game, when he sacrificed all clothing except his briefs to keep Yui and Yukino modest. Sorry not in anime, just LN

Saki is cool. Much cooler than the two main girls, because delinquents are cool.

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>>143016107
DELETE THIS!!!

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>>143016151
What issue do you have with 2 soul mates embracing each other? It's beautiful.

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>>143016151

Going to be far, far worse for Yui in OreGairu than for Setsuna in WA2 since she'll never be Hachiman's love and she didn't realize Yukino and Hachiman could have feelings for each other until surprised

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>>143016375
If Yui came into the clubroom one day crying her eyes out claiming she's suicidal and needs help 8man would make sure that Yukino is feeling comfortable.

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>>143016521
Yukino would be sad for her friend Yui's sake, and want to make her feel better somehow but not enough to give up the incarnate Pan-San. Also she'd tell Hachiman to no longer get too close to clingy personal-space invading Yui

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Happy birthday Yui!

>>143016521
>Yui comes in crying
>"Yukinoshita, are you alright?"
>"Hikigaya-kun, I'm fine. I think we should check to see if Yuigahama-san is-"
>"Are you certain you are alright?"
>"Yes. Like I said, I'm fine. But we should really-"
>"Good, as long as you're alright, then everything is ok."

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>>143016840

I'm waiting for Sagami's birthday in a few days. She did redeem herself during sports festival you know

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>>143016835
Yui really ought to learn not to invade other's personal space.

See pic related for instance. Yui keeps a respectable distance and everyone is more comfortable as a result.

So sensei will win right? I feel her relationship with hatiman is the most geniune

>>143017065
All girls are good girls in this series.

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>>143016938
Yukino would start getting icy if Yui were getting too clingy with Hachiman though.

Yui (grabbing Hachiman's lapel and lowering head to cry on his chest): "Hikki, could you have spared at least a moment to consider my feelings for you??!! Waaaah!"

Yukino: "Yui, if you wish to live to see graduation day, I'd strongly recommend you remove your hand and head from *that thing* and sit down. *That thing* is mine and mine alone, and I will not share it"

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>>143017203
Yes

>>143017342
Good, that's c rayz

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>>143017300
Agree except Sensei is a bad girl, but I like her like that

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>>143017314
You're clearly not an experienced kuudere but you tried and I appreciate the effort.

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>>143017342
>>143008896
>>143008598
>>143006263


maybe Yui will notice the good chemistry between Hachiman and Hiratsuka-sensei and try a different approach to woo Hachiman

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>>143017606
>Yui starts raising the bantz and smartens up
>too late to win Hachiman's heart
>grows up to be a Hiratsuka-sensei-tier Christmas Cake

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>>143017707
I have a feeling Yui will be the kind who deals with not getting Hachiman by being too loose with any other guys that catch her fancy. She'll be a well-worn slut by the end of college.

>>143017907
That would imply that she did not learn anything at all.

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>>143018279

Sure, she'll have learned she can't butt into the middle of two obvious soul mates who have great chemistry together. She'll learn that one-sided love isn't enough. She'll learn that the superficial clique she loves so much, often leaving Hachiman and Yukino together to run to be with it, won't provide satisfying deep relationship. Yui is going to learn so very much! And, if she wants to fritter away the time by having casual sex in her youth, she can instead do that

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Hachiman says he likes big-boobed shapely girls, but what catches and hold his eyes and makes him wax poetic?

>>143018434
Not feeling it, Anon. Even if Yui has to walk away from this heartbroken, she'll definitely subvert the trope she was cast into at her very first talk with Hachiman.

>>143018513
8man simply finds Yukino to be significantly more attractive than anyone else.

It's the reason why when 8man opened the club door while YY were changing he immediately committed every fiber of his being to burning Yukino's form into memory. He didn't even notice Yui who was standing right next to Yukino until she started yelling and throwing things at him. He was actually quite upset that Yui interrupted his concentration.

When most people think of ideal they usually think of something that is simply "good enough". In this case however Yukino truly is 8man's ideal image of beauty in the fullest sense of the word.

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Pigs

>>143018941
Is Saki still preparing to be his future wife?

>>143018875
Too bad Yukino herself does not like 8man romantically.

>>143016938
Animate this

>>143008598
"How bout $500 to go all out"

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>>143019125
....uh huh...

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Why cant this be harem ending?
Its not like girls dont like each other.
Also ANOTHER dosen`t exist.

Happy b-day breast girl.

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>>143019125

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>>143019289
Because it's a happy ending

>>143019289
Because harem would imply Yui is on Yukon's level

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>>143019289
Yui didn't even know Hachiman liked sweet things until Yukino pointed out that he did. Yui has never shared a MAX Coffee with Hachiman, nor has she ever provided him with MAX Coffee. Yukino is both a "user" and a "source" for the addictive diabetes nectar.

>>143019282
They were just being spergs. Show me the evidence that Yukino likes Hachiman.

>>143019330
>>>/reddit/

>>143019563
Well obviously MAX Coffee is drink of intellectuals and well Yui is Yui
>>143019485
Personalities cannot be objectively ranked.

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>>143019735
yes, Yukino is a sperg in love and is having a hard time with shyness.

hah, invoking reddit when you have no argument of substance. I could just as well go

>>>> tumblr sjw faggot

>>143019282

> In that instant when our eyes met
> This chest is overflowing. That gentle scenery
> Gently wrapped by the dusk

> In that instant when our eyes met
> This chest is overflowing. That gentle scene
> I will never forget it

Yep, no romantic feelings that I can tell.

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>>143019787

Yukino has sat down with Hachiman to take a full can hit of the MAX Coffee, and gone flying to higher order dimensions for deep philosophical discussions

"It is by MAX Coffee alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the sugar and caffeine that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by MAX Coffee alone I set my mind in motion"

What if Sensei caused Haciman's car accident?

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>>143020337
Hush. We do not discuss the plan. Now just forget about it and act natural.

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>>143020337
>Sensei was the butterfly

>>143020528

>Sensei caused Hachiman's accident, the puppy was in on it too
>All so that she could get a depressed, loner young man eating out the palm of her hand and save her from the crushing loneliness of a Christmas cake
>Somehow the service club thing will backfire on Hachiman and Sensei will be the one there to cheer him up, ensuring her victory over him

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>>143020624

>>143020547
sensei used a drone pulling toy butterfly on the end of a fishing line

>>143020716
>>143020624
If Sensei kissed Hachiman right on that bridge, life would've been so much better.

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>>143021135
I think that would trip Yukino into full yandere mode

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>>143021135
Yep, shame it's only in the fanart that it happens though

>>143021295
>Not doing the Yandere Trance

You had ONE job Yandere Yukino.

>>143020158
>character songs
Try harder.

She didn't feel anything in ANOTHER's infirmary scene.

>>143020057
Shitty images with words are reddit.

What is there to be shy about? The worst he could do to her is tell her no.

You know, at first I would have felt sorry for Yuifags had Yui lost in the main series, but it's becoming increasingly more difficult to feel any empathy for them. And this is coming from someone that isn't a Yukinofag.

>>143021979

They're going down hard in their desperation to be sure.

ANOTHER does everything short of explicitly stating Yukino likes 8man and that him dating Yui bothers her. I thought Yuifags liked ANOTHER.

>>143022594

Yuifags like their warped view of ANOTHER that ignores all the evidence that Hachiman/Yui is doomed, not genuine, and that Yukino is destined to drift away from both in the end.

>>143021876
invoking ANOTHER? you're the one who needs to try harder, ANOTHER's characters actions are irrelevant to main story; indeed all characters are so very out of character to have Yui get with Hachiman it's hilarious.

>>143022779
>thinks he will be left with nothing in the main series if he pursues genuine
>gets something
>doesn't pursue genuine in ANOTHER
>is left with nothing
POTTERY
O
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Y

>>143020547


Because nobody would suspect the butterfly

>>143023218

Precisely

>>143023218
So what is so ungenuine about Yui?

>>143022779
>evidence that Hachiman/Yui is doomed
What evidence? Their relationship is starting and is on an upward trajectory. Yukino will grow closer to those two now that romance is settled and she is their friend.

>>143023543

Fuck off Yuipollfag

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Why do you like this girl?

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>>143023925
Does it really have to be spelled out?

>>142963248

That is a really goddamn cute hat.

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>>143024028
Have no idea what you're implying.

>>143023925
She is sweet, beautiful, hardworking, fun, and good natured. Her body is great too. Her dedication to 8man and is amazing, I can't help but root for her to get what she wants. Her kindness knows no bounds and she is willing to do so much for her friend Yukino.

She won ANOTHER and I hope she wins the main series. Even if she doesn't as long as WW doesn't hurt her than I am fine.

>>143016840
grown up akari?

Yukino likes Hayama and not 8man. After all this time she still loves him. I hope she gets him. Hayama probably is her pan-san.

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>>143025277
>Yukino
>Likes Hayama

Nope, it's Yui she likes.

>>142993897
If you've been around long enough you would have known that they have been the "new" cancer for almost half a year now.

>>143025623
She likes the one she is enchanted by. Hayama most likely.

>>143024819
done so much for her friend Yukino, like stepping on her neck and trying to eliminate her as competitor for Hachiman.

Yui can't even follow a conversation with moderately complicated words. airhead with tits.

>>142968964
This entire "genuine" thing that pops up towards the end still comes off as kinda dumb to me. The characters dropping their dumb bullshit and just being frank with each other and the story going from there would've been fine and it probably would stil lead to a Yukino ending even so it's all good

The high school MC suddenly desperate wanting "the real thing" as if his life depended on it despite there being no good reason for him to have any proper idea what constitues a genuine relationship was a shitty direction to go though. Comes with a bunch of weird pretenses too, like how it's not "genuine" if a girl pursues Hachiman and tries to overcome obstacles while doing so, Hachiman has to be the one to do the pursuing for whatever reason.
Or how a relationship requires hard work to be genuine, with a complete lack of acknowledgement that if anything the hard work starts when maintaining a relationship, not starting one (and since the story will evidently end on Hachiman winning a girl, the author has to pretend that this isn't true in order for this "genuine" thing to even hold any water)

The more I think about it the more I think that a loner ending would probably be the most sensible one, even though it'd probably piss everyone off.

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>>143027046

Genuine = Yukino's vagina

Once you accept that, you know there can be only one ending.

>>143027107
I might as well just accept that, it'd bug me less.

>>143027046
I'm glad you prove time and time again that you have no idea what genuine is and also what is going on in the story. Just sit down and acknowledge that you don't understand it or go and read every single inner monologue Hachiman has regarding what it is, starting from volume 8.

>>143027261
>I'm glad you prove time and time again that you have no idea what genuine is and also what is going on in the story.
Evidently no one in these threads knows what it means, everyone has a different definition of it and insists that no one else "gets it", you just doing exactly that is about as meaningless as the Iroha image dumps

Hachiman straight up talks about wanting a relationship that he has to earn and so on as opposed to one that comes easy, exactly like I said.

>>143027403
1. He wants to know every single thing about a person.
2. He wants to have a relationship with someone where they don't need to exchange words to understand one another, because what they share is real and understood.
3. He wants to be able to unconditionally share his burden with someone.
4. A relationship of full honesty.
5. He doesn't want it to be simply given to him, because anything given to him is a sham that will be lost one day.
6. Incorruptible love. Love that exists for love's sake, not because he's constantly helping someone out or because he helped someone out once.

I always just assumed 'genuine' meant some ishin-denshin stuff and left it at that.

The whole point of it, and how it originates in Hachiman monologues, is that words can fail so he wishes for a true understanding of someone. He wants to UNDERSTAND, he doesn't want words like his character song says:
> I don’t need words
> I just want to understand
> I want something genuine,
> though I know I cannot get it

The part about it representing a relationship that requires a struggle to achieve is also stated at times and comes from Sensei's "think, writhe, struggle" comment in vol 8.

You could ask why is Yukino the focus of it and not Yui. Why doesn't Hachiman wish to "understand" Yui and have a genuine bond with her? I don't really know the answer to that, but 'genuine' in the story is clearly a link between Yukino and Hachiman. She wants to be understood and he wants to understand.

>>143027789
and I'm not sure how any of that conflicts with what I said >>143027046
that
1) A socially autistic high schooler thinking/wanting this is dumb in itself
2) It comes with a nonsensical pretense that a relationship requires no work to maintain, that it's instead just a bunch of checkboxes to tick off in order to fulfill something that'd end up being perfect somehow
3) Hachiman has to be the one who pursues it, if someone else pursues him then evidently the relationship is "given to him"
The entire thing about Hachiman having to earn this relationship makes no sense. It's being treated like an exam where it's studying for it vs cheating and Hachiman choosing the "proper" route, except applying that line of thought to interacting with people is strange when it's not even comparable.

which goes back to what I said at the end of my post, that a "loner ending" seems the most sensible way to put it. Hell even I'd be pissed off by that but I can't see how this is deniable.

>>143027813
>is that words can fail so he wishes for a true understanding of someone
The only reason his words fail is because he's so overly critical and over-analyzes everything though, he admits that much even
outside of when the plot demands it he doesn't even struggle to understand people anymore, hence him not being alone anymore and having actual friends now

>>143028100

> a relationship requires no work to maintain
I don't see where that's ever stated. But a genuine bond can stand the test of time whereas a non-genuine one cannot, no matter how hard you try otherwise.

> Hachiman has to be the one who pursues it
It's not just him pursuing it. Remember that Yukino accepted his request and has mentioned it twice now since. As her character song says:
> Let’s search for what you’re looking for
It's a thing built by two people, together.

>>143028207

Pretty much every single character he has met in the story he has gotten wrong at first and then gained a better understanding of later.

The premise that words can't replace a true understanding still holds true. Not just for Yukino but for everyone.

>>143028276
>I don't see where that's ever stated.
It's what the entire thing is dependant on. Hachiman's idea of a genuine relationship is this overly idealistic notion where if tick off said checkboxes will result in something that'd be perfect. It has to be that way because presumably the series will end on Hachiman ending up with one of the main girls as opposed to continuing on after that so making any sort of acknowledgement that a relationship is defined by how it's maintained instead a bunch of dumb prerequisites wouldn't really work, at the expense of this whole "genuine" thing coming off as rather shallow as a result.

Admittedly I didn't even bother with the character songs since it's not in the LNs. I'll drop it.

>>143028315
>and then gained a better understanding of later
and I'm talking about how he is later, since that's where we're at right now.

>>143026725
>like stepping on her neck and trying to eliminate her as competitor for Hachiman.
I don't remember that happening.

>>143028686

> I'm talking about how he is later, since that's where we're at right now.
He hasn't changed. He still over-analyzes and parses words. His relationships are better because, despite doing that, time and experience has given him a better understanding of these people.

> Hachiman's idea of a genuine relationship is this overly idealistic notion where if tick off said checkboxes will result in something that'd be perfect.
Again, you have no understanding of genuine in the context of Oregairu. Genuine relationship isn't a thing that, once achieved, is perfect and can never fail. Nowhere is that ever stated or indicated. But some relationships are built to last and others are not. Throughout the series, Hachiman gives the criteria for what such a lasting relationship looks like >>143027789 . A relationship that can stand the test of time will be like that, in his estimation. That is what 'genuine' means to him.

>>143028686

> I didn't even bother with the character songs since it's not in the LNs.
You should. They were written by WW. They contain details such as Sensei talking about her high school experience that you won't find in the LNs.

>>143028928
They are memes that do not actually reflect the characters' feelings save for one or two songs.

>>143029190

They are memes straight from the pen of WW, which gives them full legal binding authority in Oregairu fandom.

>>143029242
WW didn't right them. His masters and marketers did.

PS: Genuine isn't a mystery, read his phone conversation with Haruno, his conversation with Sensei, and his thoughts when he said "I want something genuine" in the club room. One of the few things in this series that isn't a mystery actually.

>>143029351

Regardless, it has WW's stamp of approval. The songs word is law and they override all asspain that result from them.

> Genuine isn't a mystery
Well obviously. Preceding posts explain it pretty well.

>>143029439
WW had no choice but to approve them. There is no way they apply to the real story. I don't think they count as evidence because the story doesn't support them. Although Yui's and Komachi's fit them like a glove the others are off.

>>143006401
No she's from Johto.

>>143019289
Coming from someone who's all for more actual harem endings in harem series especially since we're slowly moving away from the usual trend of devoid-of-personality bland harem MCs nowadays - it just wouldn't fit this series at all.

At the same time, there is that upcoming VN. Probably not outright harem endings or anything but it has what-if scenarios of sorts. The actual story is pretty heavily geared towards 8man finding the genuine in Yukino, but technically speaking you only have to change a few minor details here and there for it to be someone else not Yui though, get over it Yuifags and that's what something like a VN could do. Fleshing out some of those other characters in a way that you wouldn't normally see without actually interfering with what the main series is doing.

>>143029752

Yukino's is on the money too. As is Sensei. And all of them.

>>143019079
>Is Saki still preparing to be his future wife?
She's preparing to be his future sister-in-law, since Hachiman's a siscon and all

>>143030743
No, Yukino's character song implies she is head over heals for 8man which we know isn't true.

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>>143031614

> Yukino's character song implies she is head over heals for 8man which we know isn't true
You poor thing.

>>143031614
Go away Yuipollfag

>>143030632
>but technically speaking you only have to change a few minor details here and there for it to be someone else not Yui though, get over it Yuifags
WW changed a few things in ANOTHER and we got a Yui end out of it. Yui has an end in the AU novels already.

>>143031671
It wasn't genuine though, which was my point

>>143031716
Maybe so but if we change a few more things it would be. In fact ANOTHER's afterstory can become genuine.

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>>143031637
Yukino only loves Pan-san, stop denying reality.

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>>143031820

She loves all Pan-sans, great or small.

>>143032280
What is her policy on Pan-san sharing? Halal or haram?

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>>143032495

Haram for sure. Yukino's precious Pan-san is her own.

>>143033668
The big, warm Pan-san's heart she stole at destiny land is in great demand, perhaps she should sell it and make a killing.

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Disregard classmates, acquire teacher.

>>143034278
Is there any chance of Sensei getting any sort of moderately happy end out of all this? I was hoping that the series would end on 8man & the others finding a decent guy for the poor chick but the Volunteer Club ended up just being a big dumb sham that revolves entirely around Yukino so even that isn't likely given where the series is headed

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>>143035561
Sensei ships YukiHachi though.

>>143006571
>thinking about Saika getting the 8inch
I think it moved.

>>143036423
What does that have to do with anything I said?

>>143036554
She'll be happy if she sees 8man achieve the romance she never had. It will bring some amount of closure on that chapter of her life.

>>143036610
8man owes her a hell of a lot more than that though
all my point was is that 8man going out of his way to do something in return would've been nice, that's all. Having every single aspect of the plot revolve around 8man getting with Yukino and nothing else feels unsatisfying as hell to the point where those other characters might as well not be there since they're that shallow.

This isn't me hating on Yukino, before someone gets mad at me for saying that.

Am I an idiot or are the exchanges between characters really vague?

>>143037949
most of the main girls are shit anyway
that's why

loner ending is the only real ending waiting for 8man.

Is there a chance that Yukino swallows her feelings for 8man in the main series for everyone's sake?

>>143037949
The main characters are shit at talking in a normal manner, atleast early on anyway

>>143039054
>for everyone's sake
who's everyone in this scenario? One chick can't win without everyone else getting pissed off

>>143039230
Yui's, her friend, and 8man's sake. Plus it would probably help her situation with her family.

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Genuine bump

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I sure hope Yukino didn't know what Yui actually meant by her proposal.

I guess there's not much to discuss anymore. I won't bump a second time.

>>143043086
Heaven, Purgatory, or Hell?

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Bumping

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>>143044538
Yukino

Genki sister is obviously the very best.