>horror anime No, I'm sorry. It just doesn't work.

>Elfen Lied
>horror

>>142932421
But elfen lied isn't horror

>>142932421
U need to watch the good horrors like Another

>>142932421
In general horror films do not work once you've seen enough of them, which isn't a lot.
But yeah anime never manages anyway.
>>142932444
This too.

>>142932458
>Another
>good

I keep seeing this, do people really not get scared by anime? Animated things tend to disturb me more than live action

>>142932458
another what?

>>142932569
Another anime

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>>142932421
But that is meant to be funny.

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>>142932421
>People tell me to watch Another
>It's just as terrible and laughable

I don't know what /a/ or anime watchers in general consider horror.

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>>142932421
I feel like every anime that tries to have a "horror" theme has a WAY TOO BRIGHT ART STYLE.

>>142932421
Elfen Lied is gore but gore is not necessarily horror.

>>142932567
I got pretty spooked when I was much younger watching Ghost Hunt. That doll arc, and the arc with the guy taking blood baths was spooky, but then I was watching that in the middle of a stormy night.

Other than that i've found it hard to find anything else spooky, but then there isn't that much spooky anime to begin with.

Well, there was that one episode with the Cthulu water creature in Kagewani episode 6 but that's more of a deep rooted fear I got for deep water and the shit that can be in it

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>>142932421
It's not that Anime doesn't have potential for good horror series, it's just that it doesn't happens, with either bad adaptations or no adaptations at all when it comes to good horror manga/VNs.

A proper one of Higanbana would easily outclass anything done until now.

>>142932569
GOT EM

>>142932521
Another.

>>142932521
Bocu no Pico.

I liked Another, but there is nothing scary about it. Maybe at most there's some suspenseful moments.

>>142932567
>I keep seeing this, do people really not get scared by anime?
Yes. For me it entirely depend on the character designer, When They Cry is laughable and Another, while I do like Ito, her designs weren't perfect for it and I had a heartily laugh every episode.

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Mahou Shoujo Of The End anime when?

>>142932800
Hmm..

>>142932567
Animation can do disturbing things well, that's not the issue. As a one famous example look at Akira and Tetsuo's mutation scene. It's not horror but its disgusting and unnerving.
Good horror doesn't just come from disturbing imagery, the direction needs to be solid and it needs to be pervasive in the product, not just in a scene or two, to be horror.
In the end however it mostly comes to just how sensitive you are to being scared and what you associate being scared with.
A lot of horror films think that gore equals scary. If you get queesy from graphic violence you will feel uncomfortable from something that someone other doesn't find any special at all.
It's not necessarily an issue of anime. People who don't feel scared from any horror anime won't probably feel much more from any kind of horror film or series.

>>142932567
when the main character gets NTRd

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>inb4 Nozomifag

>>142932800
Why are you posting niggers on a Japanese image board?

>>142932800
Congratulations you just played yourself

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>>142932421

horror in general doesn't work especially in today's world, how can people get scared of a moving picture on a small screen
And I'm seriously not trying to be an edgelord, all horror movies for me are just boring and predictable.

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>>142932871
That's not an Anime. And it's not really taken seriously most of the time, though there is some legit drama and plot twists sometimes.

When the fuck do it gets an Anime adaptation, I need it.

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>>142932723
As much as I liked higanbana, it's not -really- horror. The ghoststories aren't that spooky because they don't really aim to be. They're basically just fantastical metaphores for philosophical concepts, social dynamics and peoples inner worlds.

Utopia is best arc.

What does /a/ think of Corpse Party?

Seto no Hanayome OVA is the best horror anime I've seen. Not joking.

Ellen Lied is just an assault on all of your emotions. You're supposed to laugh.

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>>142932608
>>142932723

If you want some real Ryukishi spooks and you know Japanese you should read Iwaihime. Shit's crazy!

>>142932567
Anime has never been able to scare me, but it has been able to disgust/disturb me.

The rape scene in Kara no Kyoukai was about as uncomfortable for me as the rape scene in Last House on the Left.

And I know I've seen gore in anime that's made me feel uncomfortable before, but I can't think of any particular scenes off the top of my head.

>horror
>anime

>>142932521
>>>/r/

>>142932875
>Good horror doesn't just come from disturbing imagery, the direction needs to be solid and it needs to be pervasive in the product
You sound like you think you can imagine "good" horror, but have no idea how to actually envision it. How about giving some examples? I think the best approach is to not make gore predictable, as in, this scary monster shows up on screen and kills the person in a completely mundane way. Let the viewer's imagination extrapolate from the idea you give him, show a creeping threat and maybe some consequences clearly visualized, add mystery into it, and let the magic of human imagination do its work. It's not that hard.

>>142933408
Problem with gore in anime is that it goes overboard.
I mean I watch anime for outlandish thing, I haven't a problem with that, but gore as an element of horror only works when it is understated and that just doesn't happen in any anime that I know of.

>>142933408
>rape
>disturbing

Hello, tumblr

>>142932961
i kinda agree with this anon; but i also have to say that horror is probably the one genre that hollywood jews do better than anime. I don't know why, I can't explain it. I've never seen a jump scare of any kind in anime that actually worked. You can build a creepy atmosphere and everything in anime, but in the end it still looks like a cartoon. I think the live action stuff at least gets that aspect more right. There have been some gory anime scenes that have gotten to me worse than isis videos have though; so idk. It just doesn't seem like anime and horror are a match for each other.

>>142933408
Actually I remembered one.

I winced during that scene in Blood C when the twin girl gets her leg pulled off.

But then I laughed.

>>142933632
>but have no idea how to actually envision it
True enough, I'm not a filmmaker of any kind, I'm just a consumer.
I can say at least one example though and it's pretty much what you described and it's Halloween, the grand-daddy of all slashers. If you watch it when you're an adult after seeing any of its copycats it loses much of its effect, but you can still see how it is head and shoulders above any of those.
Another one that has always stayed in my mind as an example of masterful horror is Peeping Tom.

I think something closer to Uncanny Valley would help with the horror atmosphere. Something like Malice@Doll, for example.

>>142933940
>cuck
Fuck off crossboarding shitstain.

>>142933667
Not him but that one movie where everyone becomes blind has that rape scene that lasts for like ten minutes. That shit disturbed me for some reason while rape usually doesn't bother me

>>142933667
I mean, it doesn't bother me in hentai because it's usually ridiculous and easy to brush off, but the scenes in those two movies were pretty convincing.

Felt too real for comfort.

>>142934200
Don't act like you don't get called that several times a day.

>>142932871
what the fuck is going on there?

>>142934509
Anime beame real

>>142932421
Quality thread.

I think that the horror genre is really underrepresented in most anime/manga. The majority of all "horror" elements are shoehorned in other genres. Berserk, for instance, can be a horror in some circumstances but is also an adventure.

Battle Royale is another case where it is a horror but its more of a dystopia like Blame! or Btooom.

I want to say that Corpse Party is perhaps the only manga that actually is pure horror but the manga is fucking garbage.

>>142934598
>I want to say that Corpse Party is perhaps the only manga that actually is pure horror but the manga is fucking garbage.
Read more fucking manga, newfag.

>>142932608
I think VNs are a great medium for horror, perhaps the best.

>>142934598
I think many directors just don't know how to make something horror instead of bad mystery/action.
Admittedly, I think anime isn't the easiest medium to scare people.

Lain was the spookiest anime

I'm scared of real life way more than anything in anime.

>>142934598
Do you not know who Junji Ito is?

>>142934801
Yeah I've read his manga on /x/. Admittedly, I forgot about him and the one shots of guinea pig.

>>142932421
That's not a horror anime, you faggot.

>>142932521
Pupa

>>142932521

The Portrait of Petite Cosette.

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>>142934509

Basically imagine a zombie apocalypse, but zombies are replaced by magical girls.

Anyway, the problem with japanese and horror is that they reach that level of horror where it's very easy for things to slip and wrap back around to adorable (and vice versa), take this guy for instance, isn't he cute? One of his heads is even a skeleton, which should be spoopy as fuck but because he's got all those other heads as well the entire thing just ends up looking adorable.

You see similar things in Berserk, where Nosferatu Zod is a qt3.14.

There was that manga about a guy dressed liked a goth loli who'd been rolling in garbage for a few weeks stalks a guy while acting like his little sister or something. That was spooky.

The only way anime or manga can get me actually scared though is by using spiders. I had to skip the OPM chapter with the big spider.

>>142934953
Skeletons arent scary, they are funny.

>>142934986
>There was that manga about a guy dressed liked a goth loli who'd been rolling in garbage for a few weeks stalks a guy while acting like his little sister or something. That was spooky.
FUCKING SPOILERS GOD DAMN IT I WAS GOING TO READ THAT

>>142932421
Magnetic Rose is great psychological horror tho.

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>no-one mentions Shiki
Those first 8 episodes are pretty spooky.

>>142935411
Pink hair was too sexy to be scary. She was slithering from under that bed and i just wanted to fap.

>>142932421
What is the meaning of that expression? She looks tired and confused.

>>142932421
Not anime but Junji Ito's works are always creepy to downright frightening.

There's also a lot of spooky horror VNs. Saya no Uta, while not scary, had some pretty disturbing scenes.

Cartagra and Kara no Shoujo 1 and 2 are pretty creepy and even scary (the nun bad ending, UGH)

The Higurashi VN is also pretty spooky.

Ever17 isn't exactly scary but it's pretty creepy, the crippling loneliness while under the sea and all.

There's also that one short anime whose name always escapes me that was pretty fucking jump scare scary. Made me literally shit my underwear, the episode with the spider woman. Gave me a bad case of jump scare diarrhea

>>142935621
You'd be tired and confused too if you just spent all day working in the lab and suddenly realized your body was missing.

>>142935639
>There's also that one short anime whose name always escapes me that was pretty fucking jump scare scary. Made me literally shit my underwear, the episode with the spider woman. Gave me a bad case of jump scare diarrhea
Yami Shibai?

>>142932421
Hello, summer!

>>142935621
>i want to go home
>my neck hurts
>why is this girl naked

>>142935697
Yes.

>that floating head in OP image
I can see why you laughed lmao

>>142935411
Not spooky, but it was really good and the loli was cute and the

the death of pink and mc is sad, they should have gotten together

>>142935794
>lmao

>>142932458
Another is good

>>142935411
>Those first 8 episodes

Are enough to etablish the worst cast ever.

>>142936073
Another was good until the last several episodes.

The ending was horrid.

>>142934853
Pupa is just obscene, not scary.

>>142934986
>>142935226

Name? sounds interesting

>>142936248
No point because he spoilered the thing. It's no longer spooky because it's no longer mysterious.

Pet Shop of Horrors was really good. It should've had more episodes.

>>142936319
>Pet Shop of Horrors
It has a manga.

>>142936357
I know. After reading that the shopkeeper wasn't Dracula, or at least a vampire, I didn't feel like reading it.

>>142932421
>Watch your favourite show of the season
>Look at the sales
There you have your horror.

>>142935929
Mc was gay

>>142933667
There's a difference between rape done for fetishism and rape intended to evoke feelings of disgust.

>>142936319
You should be glad a josei even got an anime in the first place.

>>142934684
Saya was pretty great for that, and it stands up pretty well as a horror story. It sucks that I can't ever recommend it to most horror fans because they'll just go "you have sex with a little girl? gross"

>>142936894
>What does /a/ recommend?
to fuck off.

>>142934953
I think it's a matter of presentation. Going to heavy on something can evoke the opposite intended reaction.

It's like how scenes with over the top gore cease to be disgusting and enter the realm of comedy.

>>142936894
Watch Ghost hound

It's good; not so much scary but it's interesting

>>142936939
Y-You too.

>>142932458
I liked another

>>142936894
Hellsing isn't even horror you /v/ermin

>>142932875
>Tetsuo's mutation scene
I think that was good horror in the sense that it combined the grotesque, unnerving imagery with the unpredictability of his this constant, unstoppable threat that keeps delving deeper into instanity. The buildup of the insanity, grotesqueness, and instability is what made it horrifying for me.

A big part of good horror is not merely fear but also confusion and unfamiliarity (or a major abnormality in what is considered familiar, which can be very well done with biological horror that isn't just plain gore) in my opinion, and that scene did it great.

>>142936979
The artstyle is a turn-off, but I thought the same about Another. I'll try it out.

>>142936894
Kill yourself, newfag.

>>142937053
>I know some are more horror-based than others.
Also, vampires are from horror fiction.

>>142932458
Another was far too entertaining to be horror.

>>142937053
Hellsing is supernatural horror. Just because it has over the top gore and action doesn't mean it isn't.

>>142937130
>Also, vampires are from horror fiction.
Vampires are from folktales. Having them does not make your story horror.

>>142937215
refer to
>>142937186

>>142932458
Another was a thriller.
Anime can do thriller and unsettling,although the later is rare, but it's pretty much impossible to do horror in anime.
Maybe in cg anime you could pull it off but not in 2d

>>142937186
No. Hellsing is not horror. Has elements of horror, sure, but it's not horror. The point of horror is to scare the viewer/reader, Hellsing has literally nothing scare-worthy in it.

>>142937186
Literally what is the argument for Hellsing being horror?

>>142932421
Is she okay?

>>142937130
>vampires are from horror fiction
By this logic, Karin is horror.

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>>142937254
>>142937279
>Anime "critics" dissecting and subcategorizing horror
Autists.

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>>142932421
You're watching the wrong ones

>>142937392
>not understanding basic differences
Can't help that you're retarded senpai.

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>>142936588

>>142937170
Another was fine until the deaths started to get too contrived. The first 4 episodes are my favorites.

>>142937254
Another was not a thriller. It r

>>142937186
>>142937305
Hellsing is gothic horror. I'd still consider Van Helsing to be a gothic horror movie, or Coppola's Dracula. Just because the former has action, and the latter has romance does not mean it's not horror.

>>142937543
Apologies, I forgot to complete my statement since I was too engrossed by vampires in horror.

Another was not a thriller

I'd consider Another to be horror, since my line between thriller and horror is that the latter has fantastical or supernatural elements to it.

I'd call Perfect Blue a thriller, since it's about an idol's descent into madness over the stress of adjusting into a new life as an actress. It is firmly rooted in our reality

Another on the other hand relies on a supernatural curse caused by the presence of someone who ought to be dead.

Also, I'm not too fond of the word thriller since I find it's used too often by people who don't want to admit they liked a horror movie. It pisses me off to no end when people try to call Alien a "thriller"

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>Horror anime
>It doesn't scare me guys
>I laugh at it
>I love seeing blood, gore and guts also animal abuse and dogs getting beaten and people getting raped
>Sasuke is my ideal character, because just like him I'm nihilistic, cool, and have a wicked sense of humor

As much as /a/ and the internet hates that word "edgy" you are indeed a good example of an edgy person. I bet you have long black hair and listen to deathmetal while telling the establishment to eat shit and die, you pretentious fuck.

>>142937543
Having action or romance isn't the point. The point is that it doesn't attempt to frighten you.

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>>142932421
How's your first day on /a/

>>142937767
Who are you quoting?

Th scariest thing I've seen in anime would probably be the haunted house episode in Hataraku Maou-sama!, it was a bit creepy

>>142937767
And I suppose people who watch Miami Connection and laugh at all the "violent" scenes are edgy fedoralords too. Surely it just has nothing to do with how campy and/or how poorly implemented it is, right?

You're a fucking idiot.

>>142932421
Gore horror is not supposed to scare you.

>>142937767
Nah

You have very low standards if you're defending horror anime

>>142934684
you're probably right, at least compared to anime and manga

>>142937887
>*tips katana*

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>>142937887
I hate the entire "horror" genre, personally I think it's all shit. I had a lot of friends years ago who were big horror fanatics, all the watched was horror and Halloween was their favorite time of year because all the "scary" movies came out.

I think the horror genre and fanbase is autistic and shit, I'd rather watch comedy and romance than horror garbage.

>>142937825
You don't know how greentexting works obviously

>>142937851
It's your own fault for liking a shit genre known as horror, I bet Halloween is your favorite time of year.

Faggot

>chance to make a decent anime based on Gyo
>"how about we remove some of the most gruesome scenes and replace them with a sex scene? Double penetration? Yup bet!"

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>>142938095
>It's your own fault for liking a shit genre known as horror, I bet Halloween is your favorite time of year.

What the fuck has that sentence got to do with my post or the post I replied to you? Do you have brain problems or something? Seriously, what is your major malfunction? You were bitching at people being "edgy" for being amused by cheesy horror violence and now you're bitching about people watching it?

>>142938095
Back to /tv/.

>>142932421
fuck summer

>>142935411
spooky but not scary, if you want to a call Shiki a horror (which if you don't than really no anime can be called horror), then it's only because of how well it handles tragedy, getting dragged through a tunnel to the point you're getting crushed as a man hunt tries to drag you out with hooks isn't going to have you looking over your shoulder in the middle of the night, no anime will, but they did manage to make it feel incredibly real, and that's why I was able to enjoy as much as I did

You people keep mistaking horror for terror.

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>>142937767
>"you guys are edgy because you're not a scary bitch like me"

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>>142932421
You should watch the Tsukihime anime created in 2003 by J.C. Staff.

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The only time an anime ever made me scared (or at the very least uncomfortable) was the end of evangelion. That tumbling down song is so fucked.

>>142938095
>I had a lot of friends years ago who were big horror fanatics, all the watched was horror and Halloween was their favorite time of year because all the "scary" movies came out.

Shit man those friends were wasted on you. I really hope they don't have to put up with a downer like you any more.

>>142932458
>muh pie themed horror cartoon

>>142938289
More like tsukihymen because if you've stooped low enough for Type-Moon shit you're pretty much fucked.

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>>142932421
Anime directors suck and don't know how to do suspense which is pretty much the most important part of horror.

>>142938052
Sounds like the truth hurt you.

>>142938345
>someone is a downer because they don't like a genre that happens to be butchered by anime and western films

You're a hopeless idiot

also, people generally confuse being startled with being scared, see a trailer for one of the Paranormal Activity movies and then actually watch one of them.

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>>142938264
Actually horror genre fanatics don't scared by anything in my experience, I mean why even watch the horror genre if it doesn't phase you? It's like my friends who watched EVERY horror film possible, most of it didn't scare them, they watched it because it made them laugh.

That's not the point of the horror genre, why watch something if it doesn't scare you? That's not "horror" in my opinion, that's some mix of horror and comedy that makes for a shitty genre of films and shows. I mean sure, maybe you don't scare as easily as others but that's what horror is suppose to do. It's retarded to watch a horror film/show and not get some level of fear out of it.

This is why horror fanatics are autistic in my opinion, you're watching a series that isn't meant to be funny but you find it funny because "I'm super hardened and nothing scares me" that's the type of attitude that I find to be pretentious and that's why people think you're edgy. If a fucking axe wielding psychopath was chasing you down the street or some shit most people would be afraid, but the horror fanatics are like "Oh that's funny, you're a funny guy. You gonna kill me? Oh I bet you won't haha"

You'd be the group of people who'd die earlier on in life because you're risk seeking junks who don't know the concept of fear so you take high level risks, cautious people are superior to risk takers, and again, that's why people call you "edgy"

>>142938421
Horror in general is fucking awful.

>>142938467
Wow, I've never seen someone try to justify their weakness this hard. Holy shit, go back to tumblr.

>>142932421
It's not horror...
It's a great anime though

>>142938467
>Actually horror genre fanatics don't scared by anything in my experience

Bullshit, I'm easily scared and I love horror movies.

>>142938449
No you're a downer because you shit all over something that your friends clearly enjoy and are enthusiastic about.

>>142938514
How so?

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>>142938514
>actually believing this

It has the most trash, but it still has good stuff.

Anime horror is just particularly bad.

>>142938514
the problem with horror is that people think it's easy and everyone can do it.
If you really want to scare people you need to give them something completely unexpected. It's why a lot of people got uncomfortable at the end of evangelion. It's usually a brightly-colored show with some mildly depressing moments, and then suddenly it takes a fucked up and dark turn. You'll notice a lot of good horror practices this.

>>142938467
shut the fuck up

horror is a terrible genre in almost every medium, the only way to know this is to watch/read all of the shit, but there is gold hidden within the vast amounts of shit

the only thing horror really has going for it these days is upcoming vr games, but even those will be mostly japanese ghost girl jump scares or zombies

animation is better suited for thrillers anyway

Why hasn't uzumaki been adapted to ova/anime? I enjoyed the manga

>>142938729
horror isn't inherently terrible, it's just been hijacked by hollywood to make Friday the 13th #103232143.

>>142938467
I live in St. Louis, you good sir don't know what fear is.

>>142932458
I wouldn't call it "good" but this anon is right since Another is pretty much the closer you are going to get to a good "horror" anime, the whole atmosphere of the show is so well done that it should get more praise.

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>>142932421
give this one a go

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>>142932458
>Another
My only regret is being able to watch this show with /a/ for the first time. This show was just stupid fun.

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>>142939883
Obligatory.

>>142939883
I also regret dropping it on and not watching it with /a/. That gif with Thor is one of my all time favorites

>>142939883
Ment, not being able*

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>>142938520
>Tumblr meme/insult

Am I weak? Or are you just reckless? There is nothing wrong with knowing fear and being afraid of it.

I actually feel worse for people who don't know what fear is, or they know what fear is and choose not to acknowledge/respect it. Fear is the most primal urge in humans, it's an insult to ignore and reject it.

You need to accept and embrace it, that's how you grow.

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>>142939995

I never understand why some people proud of being "fearlessness" liek little kids They completely skip awesome experience and feeling
>playing RE7 tonight
>it's "I need to go to the toilet through dark corridor episode"
But the only real horror anime I remember is Ghost Hunt. Fuck dolls

>>142933181
Mayu a best, Ayumi a second best.

>>142939883
>all those broken hitboxes in last episode

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>>142932458

8 people have fallen for this

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>we'll never get another comedy as good as another
>we'll never get another another

>>142936894
>getting ready to mention Boogiepop Phantom
Nice work anon
This was pretty well-made and disturbing without being edgy

>>142940415
Shit, I just realized I mixed the names up.

But yeah, I agree.

horror is only good for mango

>>142932458
Another might actually be worse then Elfen Lied, or maybe that's because I was more of a newfag when I watched Elfen Lied, I don't know.

>>142940458
Does Phantom Boogiepop or Boogiepop Phantom sound less goofy?
I honestly feel the choice of name is one of the reasons a seriously high quality show like this remains relatively obscure.

>>142932875
>Good horror doesn't just come from disturbing imagery, the direction needs to be solid and it needs to be pervasive in the product

This tbqh. The closest I've seen to what I'd call a "good horror anime" is Aku no Hana. There's no monsters or murderers and nothing all that bad really happens to the protagonist, but there's a constantly-escalating sense of dread, anxiety and paranoia. It's sinister in a David Lynch way, and that's something I haven't got from any other anime. Shame it never got S2.

>>142940684
Boogiepop Phantom sounds better to me.

I think having the events play out in a non-linear way scares off a lot of people. It's really not that hard to keep track of, though.

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>>142938095

>>142932567
The scene real she rips off all of Nanas poor widdle limbs had me traumatized for a bit, but then again that was probably my 5th or 6th anime not including dbz, sailor moon

>>142940702
Aku no Hana isn't horror it's suspense. I've never actually been scared watching an anime not trying to brag or anything I doubt anyone has been. The medium has just lost the capability to scare because of the moeshit cancer.

>>142938635
The original Grudge movies are so much better than the American remakes, it's ridiculous.

>>142941070
I will say manga i've read have easily been on another level as far as spookiness goes that i've yet to see anime get to.

>>142932723
>>142933134
When is this gonna get a console release so I can patch out the horrendous art

>>142934598
>I want to say that Corpse Party is perhaps the only manga that actually is pure horror

definitely not!

>>142937767
>not being edgy like sasuke
step it up faggot

Maybe not outright horror, but episode 17 of Mushishi was pretty creepy. That one with the silk cocoon mushi, which would spirit you away if you were in an enclosed space with one when it opened again.

Also, that one with the mushi that manifested that guy's dreams, and resulted in him accidentally transforming everyone in his town into lifeless moss.

>>142941070
So you've never been scared by an anime, but you're somehow convinced that it used to be scary in the past, despite never seeing a scary old anime? You sound like some retard who blew in from /v/ and believes that literally anything you don't like must be the fault of "moeshit."

>>142940029
what if I told you i really am not afraid of anything? If anything I look forward to everything as a new exciting experience

>>142941504
>telling people who are interested in horror about an episode of something
>don't use spoilers
Fuck off, retard.

I dunno, there really aren't that many passable horror anime -- even though there's plenty of great horror manga and visual novels. They get terrible adaptations that do the source material no justice, and it's a shame. Look at Gyo for fuck's sake.

Japan is, at the very least, very good at using horror as an aesthetic -- many non-horror works like Berserk, et al use horror aesthetics to enhance their presentation. And there's plenty of that in anime form.

Maybe when it comes to horror the japs prefer to do it in movie form after all? J-horror is an expansive genre filled with great movies, perhaps all potential projects that could be anime just end up there since its what everyone does, and what makes the most money.

>>142932871

I like how he beat the shit out the girl with a bat.

>>142941569
Just bringing it up as conversation. It aired 10 years ago, and none of that is really a spoiler. What I've said is what is told to you or the conflict, there's no resolution to spoiler.
So calm down, meester man.

>>142941581

Oh, there's passable horror anime. the thing about modern Japanese animation companies is they're trying so hard to be spooky and gory and not just choosing one. For example, Japan is the master of gore and body horror which rivals Hellraiser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXZ2bTigdGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQi56q1h5N0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAv3NpGa5zI

>>142941746
>Japan is the master of gore and body horror
Exactly. And yet we get fucking garbage adaptations like Gyo. Is it just too expensive?

>>142941784

Nah, it was just directed by Hirao who made the shittier Kara no Kyoukai movies.

>>142932421
Yami Shibai was pretty fucking spooky, man,

I think one of the problems with anime, and most horror in general, is they feel the need to make every single page horrifying. They neglect build up and instead try to fill as much 'horrifying' shit into something as possible. That's why most of the best pieces of horror in anything are not just horror, or not even mainly horror. The moments that are scary are not as common, which means they should have a. more impact and b. more build up. For me, one of the most horrifying things I've seen in a visual novel was the end of Aoi's route in Iimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi, simply due to how much it stood out from the rest of the VN.

>>142941550
nope, I didn't say that

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Its really one of the reasons why I hope Gantz comes back in the anime. The manga had some genuine scary as shit aliens and moments. The fucking Brachiosaurus Alien boss one of the creepiest aliens I've seen so far.

>>142932458
This, japanese sure did great adaptation of Happy Tree Friends

>>142941233
Never ever because Japan has shit taste and it wasn't too popular

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>>142934598
>Corpse Party
>Horror
This shit is even above of Another level of retardness

>>142937543
I watched episode 0 first which had spoiled me first few episodes. I don't watch episodes 0 anymore now

>>142942526
I feel sorry for you man. I really do.

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>>142941562
Then I disagree with your way to view the world and see fear, everyone should be afraid of something. If you're not afraid of something then that just means you're reckless and more like to die a faster death in life, a bit of caution in life needs to be blended with curiosity.

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>>142932458
Oh fucking boy. C'mon man.

>>142942526
Why do people call OVA's episode 0s? It's really stupid. Release order is always best.

I don't really find either horror movies or anime/manga to be scary. Modern Horror movies almost always throw out the mood in favor of jump scares.

Books can do a good job. Books like IT and other horror fiction works best for me.

I still enjoy horror themed manga and anime, but it's unsetling most of the time.

>>142934801

I sure do. He writes good stuff but finishes them off horribly most of the time.

>>142942777
The episode is a prequel to the series, so it's not inaccurate to call it episode 0.

>>142942919
There are gems in modern horror, you just have to look for them.

>>142937186

Hellsing is the Evil dead series of Manga.

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>this fucking thread
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>>142943038
Nah, that'd be High School of the Dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPzzOVb0XiI

>no one posted this yet.

>>142943103

With the exception that Evil dead and Evil dead 2 are actually good (If you enjoy the campy stuff). Army of darkness was just all over the place, but it still was a pretty fun ride due to ash fucking everything up as always.

>>142942999

Yeah, decent was decent even if it dropped the ball hard with "Muh monsters".

>>142942057
I hope that new Gantz manga fucking dies fast and we never have to see that shitty franchise again.

>>142938729
A consistently good medium at this is the japanese terror vidya niche.

>>142942999
>There are gems in modern horror, you just have to look for them.

Watched some random Swedish vampire movie the other day. It was actually one of the best damn horror movies i have seen.

>>142943214
>that new Gantz manga
Gantz has a new manga?

>>142943290
Let the Right One In? I liked that as well. I remember watching that in between Marebito and Humanoids from the Deep.

>>142943338

That's the one.

>>142932961
The biggest problem with today's horror movies is that they forget to make you care about the characters; substituting characterization for gore porn.

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Genocyber is more thriller than horror, not to mention it was crap

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>>142942057
We're already having Osaka that gets adapted in realistic 3DCG. Shit will be good.

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>>142937767
What a tremendous faggot you are.

>>142943409
I don't think that's the case. Gore porn at part of mainstream US horror movie fare has been down (aside from zombie movies) since the found footage craze became a thing at the end of the last decade.

The last gory non-zombie horror flick I saw in theaters was Green Inferno. Can't say anything about the Saw franchise zombie though.

A lot of foreign horror revels in it, especially the French.

>>142935929
Pink was a shit and her death was satisfying, not sad. She should have just moved to the city instead of bitching constantly.

>>142936894
I recommend >>>/wsr/, or that you browse AniDB because 100% of dumb recommendation requests can be fulfilled by a cursory search there.

>>142943764
PINK WAS A MURDERER AND MC WAS A A cuck for still liking her after she offed his family for heaven's sake.

Sasuke is pretty fucking cool guy. He kills samurai and doesn't afraid of horror anime.

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Is there an actual anime which will give you nightmares and is legit horror?
I dont think its possible to feel fear from animation.

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>>142932723
>higanbana was originally a VN by ryuukishi
How the hell do I always manage to watch his adaptations first.

>>142932458
How did so many people fall for this

>>142944953
This, I think

There's too much of a divide between animation and reality

>>142944953
I've said it numerous times in the past, but only Another did that to me. But I'm pretty sure the only reason Another scared me was because I was operating on two hours of sleep at the time. And it was raining something fierce outside.

>>142945196
No there's NOT. I've fucking cried and teared up like 5 times per anime in which they have proper sad plots. I actually tremble. It's literally reality.

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>>142944953
See the webm.

>>142945262
Are you me? When I watched the first few episodes of Another it was in a dark room in the middle of the night when it was raining and very windy so there were a bunch of strange sounds outside and around the house.

>>142937414
This one spooped me enough I didn't get to finish it.

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>>142944953
I think if people can love and hate anime characters, there's no reason you can't feel fear from them either.

>>142945422
Is this from garden of sinners? if so is it a big spoiler?

>>142945568
I loved this man

>>142941858
Just season 1

Junji Ito anime when?

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>>142945422
The webm has done nothing anon. I just dont feel it. I dont think japanese animation has ever managed to make me feel fear.
>>142945568
I'm very sure love and hate is way different about fear. A good horror movie that makes use of, you know, reality, will always manage to make you feel fear better.

>>142944953
It is possible, but only for those who are very emotional or empathic.
>>142945275
Not the same. I cried a lot too, but it's very rare to be scared for an anime. Jump scares don't count.
>>142945422
>See the webm.
I don't feel nothing, that's just disgusting and forced. You need build up some tension first. Just watch the same webm six or seven times, you're not going to feel nothing at the end. Maybe boredom.

>>142941836
>KnK 5
>bad
Hot opinion

>>142945568
I liked Shiki just for the 'Salem's Lot vibes it gave me in the first half.

>>142945422
Sauce?

>>142945741
Then why is it that so many people think Junji Ito is a really good horror mangaka? Clearly the medium can inspire feelings of dread, but for some reason there are just incredibly few anime that even attempt it.

>>142932421
I got scared when ever killer girl got close to his cousin and mayu. I didn't want her to die.

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>>142945610
It's not a big spoiler

she's not dead

>>142945362
>I'm cool like sasuke so I don't feel nothin
Reminder that even sasuke felt emotions

>>142945935
Thanks,I was just about to start the series today

>>142945422
>Another
That thing scared you? I see it as dark comedy at most. Those last episodes were a joke. The first three or four were good though (I don't remember)

>>142945937
It's not what you said so much as how you said it. It was tumblr-tastic

And we're specifically talking about horror here and you bring in emotional investment.

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>>142945863
This is simply my opinion, but;
I think most people end up talking about how creepy Junji's stories are because they go more in the more disturbing way of fantasy, which makes people who havent seen much of that area easily left in awe, not really because the medium itself gives you a legitimate fear like you can feel from a movie. That is to say, it helps that Junji takes a different approach onto his works.
I just think if people ever want to make a good japanese horror anime that can inspire fear, they will have to make a drastic artstyle change, the usual art you see in anime nowadays might be the problem.

>>142945008
In this case you were actually right, the manga started earlier. Comparing the two I even think manga is more detailed, or at least the focus of things is different.

Horror in anime can only spook you for a bit or leave you disgusted. There are very few ones that leave something lingering in your head.

>>142946220
This. Although I admit it depend a lot of the person. For example, Higurashi was the only anime that freak me out for real. The rest just feels weird or awkward, sometimes even disgusting (like this webm >>142945422
) but nothing more.

man, if we didn't know how Uzumaki went, watching an anime of that would be amazing.

One week we're dealing with the mothers having their babies stitched back in them, the next there's the chick with her face caving in, it'd be a hell of a ride

>>142944254
He literally never gave a single shit about her and found her annoying as fuck right from the get-go. Typical cuckposter story comprehension.

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>>142945937

wasn't he literally powered by emotions? wasn't that the entire thing about his magic eyeballs and the uchiha magic?

>>142946317
I think there's a movie or something with real actors. I'm not going to watch it.

>>142944953
Try Tsubaki Shoujo. The movie was so fucked up that the author had to fund it entirely on his own and only show it at secret underground freakshows until foreign countries learned of it.

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>>142932421
265 posts in and everybody so far has failed to mention that ALL horror is shit, both anime as live action.

There is literally not a single horror film out there that scores above a "6/10, would watch when friends are over with some beers and talking throughout".

>>142946487
I couldn't finish it. That part with the puppies...

>>142946352
He spent the entire show licking her pussy you fag.

>>142946487
Hey everyone! Look at this badass! He's too COOL for horror! Wow, man, I wish everyone was like you senpai, you're just so brave and cool.

>>142946113
Horror means fear. Fear is an emotion.

>>142945741
Of course nothing's really scary without the build-up, music, and atmosphere.
>>142945777
True, but it's just an example of a scene that may terrify the viewer.
>>142946007
I was only talking about the first few episodes. The creepy atmosphere they created was incredible. It stopped being scary as the series progressed but was still entertaining.

>>142946487
Sturgeon's Law: 90%, not 100%, of everything is shit.

>>142946346
He did care about her. And he forgave her. He was a cuck

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>ctrl + f
>Shinsekai Yori
>0 results
>From the new World
>0 results
>one image referencing SSY, and it's not even the real horror episode

lied is that show that you come across when your like, 13 and first start watching anime and your like
"THIS HAS TITS, AND BLOOD, I T MUST BE AMAZING!"
Then you watch if again a few years later and you realize its shit.

>>142947253
I was pretty scared when the little girl was raped by her step dad

>>142947127
The constant tension set up in that episode was fucking insane.

>>142946700
Horror isn't everything, Sturgeon's Law doesn't apply to horror. There isn't a single good horror movie out there.

>>142947589
>the thing was shit
>korean horror films are shit
b8

>>142946487
The Shining is pretty fucking creepy just from his performance alone.

>>142947648
>Korean live action is good
This is a japanese stick figure board, the koreaboos should leave.

>>142947779
>implying I'm a fan of plastic women and shitty music
I just like their horror/thrillers

I mean come on, The Host was top tier

>>142947127
Not horror though so no reason for it to be mentioned at all

Why did no one mention Ghost Stories, what are you faggots even doing? It's one of the most disturbing horror anime of the last three decades, not to mention the superb voice acting.

>>142948149
>not horror
If you didn't feel an air of terror during that episode then your brain is broken

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>>142948642
You'll be better off watching the thing than this shit copy.

>>142944953
Closest I've gotten was the FF Spirits Within movie. I remember having trouble sleeping for days after that movie, and I kept imaging phantoms coming through the wall every time I tried to get to sleep. Mind you, I was around 10 at the time, so the bar was obviously much lower, but I still haven't had any anime come close to causing problems getting to sleep.

>>142945422
KnK was pretty great, but I wouldn't say it gave me nightmares or anything. It was more of an intellectual than visceral horror, as the rules of the world they were in (depictions of magic and whatnot) were just so completely messed up it almost felt alien. It was brilliant at being uncanny, but not really nightmare fuel.

>>142932421
Man Elfen Lied could have been so good, but cliche Japanese melodrama writing and hamfisted romance plots ruined it.

Just imagine if they played it straight, got rid of the muh childhood friend shit and Lucy was just deceiving people to assimilate.

>>142943327
Yep it's pretty trash already.

>>142938635
what are the top three stills from? They look spooky.

>>142944254
MC never liked her. What the fuck are you talking about? He was gay and wanted his best friend. He was a cuck because his best friend was straight and into a nurse.

>>142949358
I agree that Kara no Kyoukai isn't a jump thriller or anything, it's psychological. I absolutely disagree about the world being "messed up" or "alien." It's has reasonable interpretations of Shinto/Buddhist/general occultist ideas.

It actually is very similar to Another in some respect. The significance of dolls and their place as empty vessels (Japanese culture + shintoism). Being connected to or close to death as well as literally perceiving death.

In Kara no Kyoukai Shiki starts out with special eyes but they are only activated after one of her personalities dies, connecting her to death. In Another, Mei had a near death experience in the form of cancer and lost her eye and the empty doll eye it is replaced with becomes able to perceive death as a result. You could also argue that Mei became closer to death after her twin sister died, especially given that the doll her replacement eye most resembles was modeled after her twin sister.

They also share similarities in the idea of everyday things like behavior, architecture, and history having an impact on the supernatural.

>>142938962
Nah, you're just weak. Bet you're some pansy West County kid.

>get warned for asking for horror anime recommendations, based off of other horror anime I've seen, in a horror anime thread
How is this against the rules?

>>142937072
>I think that was good horror in the sense that it combined the grotesque, unnerving imagery with the unpredictability of his this constant, unstoppable threat that keeps delving deeper into instanity. The buildup of the insanity, grotesqueness, and instability is what made it horrifying for me.
>A big part of good horror is not merely fear but also confusion and unfamiliarity
I'm gonna agree with this. Akira may not usually be advertised as horror but it does pull of horror very well and in a way that a lot of movies don't go for.

Tetsuo's entire arc through that movie feels like some kind of fever. The animation does do a lot of it, communication internal, visceral pain. Uncontrollable head aches, stomach aches, warping, it even seems he can't even control his own mind when he start's hallucinating in the hospital. Even when he gets free it's just more confusing violence until eventually he goes nuts and takes it out on Tokyo.
It's the horror of not being able to control yourself.
The big transformation scene has such an impact not just because it looks vile but because the audience knows that there is person who behind that horrible mass of flesh. It's horrifying because he's a kid that did things and had a personality, despite being sort of a shit he was someone that could be empathised with. And now he's so horrible to look at, he's killing his friends whether he means to or not, no matter how human he may still be he's something that the audience can barely look at let alone empathise with.

And that break is were this particular kind of horror is.
The transformation between human and meat.

It's easy in concept but hard in practice. Because first you have to make a real proper human, not just some dude but a human. Then, right from scratch you have to teach the audience what meat is.

>>142932871
I don't like where it is going with the recent chapters but it has beautiful art and a decent plot.

>>142950986
>announcing reports

>>142951113
>implying

>>142950204
>I absolutely disagree about the world being "messed up" or "alien."
I was kind of grasping for words there, admittedly. Occultist might be more accurate, as too often 'magic' is used in shonen or harem shows to be basically whatever convenient plot excuse/super powers the author wants.

What I was kind of going for was that it wasn't thriller or horror, although that largely depends on how you define them. I think the difference is that while they're both focused on fears, thrillers have more jumps, which create a series of small build-release moments of tension, while horror keeps the atmosphere more steady and focuses on one large build-release. I think in this definition at least, it's impossible to sustain horror over a serial format like tv. Either way, KnK doesn't really fall into either. I'm kind of tired and can't really describe KnKs atmosphere, but maybe dread? Taboo?

Sorry, I feel like there was an interesting conversation about occultism, its usage and depiction in eastern and western works, and how it plays into horror, but my brain is in power-saver mode, and I'm not really getting the words to express any of these ideas properly.

>>142950851
>How is this against the rules?
Because >>>/wsr/ exists. This is /a/, not a recommendation or request board. In any case, there are myriad resources that you can use to find anime that fit your tastes. Part of being a responsible adult is learning to do things for yourself.

>>142951271
Or I may be an idiot and KnK is horror after all.

However, it's not just the focus on the occult that stands out in KnK, it's also the effort put into making sure it has internal consistency and follows its own bizarre logic as well, not just existing only as much as is needed to drive the plot. It's like Nasu has a certain fascination with how the practitioners of that kind of magic think that distracts from the horror aspect somewhat.

>>142938294

>>142951557
Well fuck me. I've never actually used /wsr/ and thought it was just for sources and drawshit. My mistake. Thanks, anon.

>>142941746
>>142943449
If there is one thing Genocyber got right was the amount of blood one released when getting fucked up. Most anime portray people getting opened up as if they were water balloons or pipes with high pressure.

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Apologises for the extremely long rant and rambling that will take up these next two posts, I just feel the need to watch myself type like I know what I'm talking about.
>pic related
Horror is a hard genre to grasp. It requires understanding people and their psyche , as well as trying to abuse that information to unsettle and strike fear into them. The reason why horror is difficult for many is because they follow common tropes, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but things start to become predictable, and what ends up happening with these horror films/animes/video games is that they end up turning into action thrillers with horror elements. you can have a great monster design, or interesting characters, a great plot, but execution is a necessity, otherwise you'll fuck up. It's also hard to scare people when considering how much we've grown accustomed to very vague fears many have, as well as being exposed to lots of violence in media. The problem with horror based mediums is that they go straight for the scare and never build up anything, they never take time to enjoy peacefulness and making the audience interested in the world being shown to them. It ends up being either a body count or spoopy jumpscares and that's not what horror is.
cont.

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>>142952390
part 2...
And since we're discussing anime, and to another extent animation as a whole, these mediums CAN be scary, but depending on the art direction and plot, people can either be willing to accept the visuals on screen or laugh at how goofy it looks to see colorful wide eyed characters being slaughtered in the most extreme ways like >>142932421 >>142945422
it just comes across as goofy and edgy. Now shit like >>142943449 is a bit unsettling due to the detail they add to these colorful characters that are slightly bounded in reality, a bit off topic but I seriously hate when I see characters with crazy ass colorful hair and very... eccentric designs and I'm just expected to not question it. You better make them interesting and likable for me to give a shit whether or not something awful happens to them, but I digress.
Horror animation has to take an approach to designing the characters and the world in a slightly surreal, down-to-earth sort of way, making characters relatable and interesting, or at the most write them as such, who am I to stifle someone's creativity in wacky anime character deaigns, but again I digress. Thankfully with animation, were able to animate ideas and concepts that may not be possible anywhere else, and the medium should be pushed to its limits, or at the most take advantage of what's capable in animation that film, literature, or still images can't do.

>>142941746
Genocyber is fucking terrible, what's wrong with you?

>>142952390
>>142952429

Horror nut here, this post is the best thing I've seen in this thread. I pretty much agree with what you're saying

> problem with horror based mediums is that they go straight for the scare and never build up anything

I think that's a problem when you have to constrain yourself to weekly 24 minutes segments. You could do it theoretically, but the current market would prevent an anime TV series from having that approach, especially since the first few episodes usually need something striking to attract viewers.

You could do a lot with horror in an animated medium, but it would require a good sense of direction, and it should take advantage of it's nature by being able to depict surreal things that would be much harder to do with real life effects.

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>>142952390
>>142952429
>The problem with horror based mediums is that they go straight for the scare and never build up anything
>You better make them interesting and likable for me to give a shit whether or not something awful happens to them
10/10 posts. Definitely agree, good horror is something that shakes you from within. It's something that should creep you because the viewer themselves have to come to a epiphany after piecing all previously hinted clues together and for it to break loose.

>>142952390
>>142952429
Also, I forgot to say, I wish I could respond with a lengthier and more insightful response, but I really got to crash right now.

>>142934932
>>142934853
When this kind will fuck off?

>>142952390
>>142952429
This is exactly why I still maintain that Shiki is the one show that I classify as horror, at least at the beginning. We're given a standard rural town, seperated from the busy city life, and largely cut off from the rest of the world. The early episodes spend a lot of time introducing characters and drawing you into their town life. Although it does have some early deaths, they are largely unexplained until later on, and it doesn't give any concrete answers straight away. Is it a monster? Is it just the MC going mad?
It then descends into monster territory wars and veers away from the horror aspect but those opening episodes really built up the location, the characters and the tension was definitely palpable until the answers started being revealed.

>>142952729
>I think that's a problem when you have to constrain yourself to weekly 24 minutes segments. You could do it theoretically, but the current market would prevent an anime TV series from having that approach
Blame that on the "first 3 episode rule" mentality holding retards.

>>142932421

The medium isn't the problem, horror is a gimmicky trash genre. 90% of anything is shit, but 99.99999999% of horror is absolute fucking garbage.

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I want to rape Nyu's butthole

>>142932444
>>142932456

>psychological horror

Nice try, guise.

>>142945422
Tsukihime is more horror that Knk.

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>>142933667

Horror and comedy both play on a general subversion of expectations. It's relatively simple to transition from fear to entertainment based on context, it's not a new idea.

If you find yourself laughing at horror it's because you aren't setting up a situation that facilitates fear. Any one of the shows in this thread have the potential to be terrifying, but it isn't going to happen for you if you watch them at 3 in the afternoon with a snack next to you and a dozen other tabs open.

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As always, Rumiko is the only one who does it right. Pic related is Laughing Target, one of the few horror anime that really hit their stride with me. Mermaid Saga is great as well.

Kazuo Umezz and Junji Ito are famous for their horror manga too, but unfortunately the only anime adaptations of them (Noroi and Gyo) are terrible.

>>142945671
Well, Gyo…

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Summertime /a/ is a cesspool of plebian cancer.

>>142932567

No.

Colours, proportions etc are wrong. The odd jump scare might work (but jump scares are not horror). The atmosphere tends to not be enough, probably due to the format.

Games can be scary, but again only in the right situation: Nighttime, undistrubed play for a few hours to IMMERSE myself. Breaking the mood with OP/ED every 20 minutes just shatters the atmosphere which is what horror relies upon.

You can and do have the same shocking 'horror' events in many anime (and other mediums), so the events themselves are not what makes it horror.

>>142932421
>does /a/ still like Higurashi?
....I like Higurashi

>>142958370
Yami Shibai (especially from season 2 on) and Kowabon fully rely on jump scares for cheap horror and completely fail at it. (Yami Shibai at least looks interesting)

Concerning games, the only one that scared the shit out of me was Terranigma. But I was only 9 or 10 then. You visit a desert town in search of a girl, chat with its inhabitants, buy stuff etc. Then you go to sleep and wake up in the middle of a town full of zombies, including dead children who throw their head after you. Meanwhile this fucking piece of music plays in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDGQ8NXc8YE, which still sends shivers down my spine. First time, I had to have a school buddy do the area because I just couldn't take it. Much later in the game, Tokyo is infested and has the same music playing.

Two years later though, Resident Evil didn't scare me one bit.

>>142932421
I found Jin-Roh to be pretty savage.

>>142936868
Saya wasn't really spooky, maybe slightly disturbing at best, but it's been mainly romantic story in the end.

>>142947253
That's like your opinion. It's pretty good and fun.

>>142954302
>Horror
>Psychological

What's the matter, too deep for you?

>>142943327
"Gantz: G". It's not even drawn by Oku, which was the only redeeming factor to Gantz. It's one of the worst things i've ever seen.

>>142948642
>>142948696
It's gruesome at parts, but it's pretty inaccurate to call it a horror. And the manga is much better, but that knowledge's nigh-universal at this point
>Also mandatory the-parasytes-are-not-aliens post

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>>142952429
See, this i alot like I said before >>142946119
The biggest problem japanese animation problaly has is the fact that they dont change the artstyle too much, they keep it a bit too cute.
I mean, something like Coraline which is western animation can actually inspire fear, or pic related