When will this genre die already? Outbreak Company, GATE, Grimgar,

>>142911053
yes, and yes.

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>>142911053
Japan used to be good at doing this genre.

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Except Re:Zero is only one in that group that is actually good.

>>142911117
>Re:zero
>better than Konosuba

HAHAHAHAHA

Except that Grimgar is AotY.

lol, like the nip tv cartoon industry cares about pirates opinions

>>142911053
Konosuba kind of redeems the genre for me.

>>142911053
Gate is the same world retard

>>142911111
Kawamori does magic sometimes.

>>142911195
How?

>>142911053
Are you new to anime and manga? It's ingrained in the medium, anon. What you're saying is basically like asking when will the action movie genre die.

>>142911117
I like Re:zero but lets not pretend its better than Konosuba.

>>142911111
But that was shit.

>>142911053
I can tell you're a bit of a newshit. You've only listed recent shows and most of them have subversive elements. Watch more stuff before you try to make generalized statements you embarrassing faggot.

I actually like this trope/setting, and I'm happy that these look like the new popular type of show. At least, I like it a lot more than the previous cash-cow genre of School Battle Harem with Tournaments.

So far, they at least have a more diverse genre than just Harem/Action and bad humor.

>Only Japanese people wish they had different lives and find women around them unappealing

Re:Zero is actually really good.
And I really fucking hate that genre.

>>142911223
It took what I think was a stupid premise and made it fun with likeable characters and a tongue-in-cheek tone. I like that our reincarnated hero is a small part of a larger world, and the first thing that happens is he's forced to do part-time construction work to secure basic food and lodging, and his concerns are things like not freezing to death in winter.

>>142911291
It's a good trope but Japs don't do it very well.

>>142911053
>political comedy
>military propaganda
>drama
>parody
Those are four different genres
isekai is a plot device not a genre

>>142911341
Not with that fucking mansion arc it isn't.

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>>142911053
>When will this genre die already?
Never.

>>142911203
I'm sorry anon, but I wasn't aware that the eponymous "Gate" actually connected Japan to Australia or that our world has flying dragons and loli death gods.

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Here's another good example.
>>142911257
Good job admitting your shit taste.

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>babby's first trope

Alright OP, we get it. You're trying to show off how mature and knowledgeable you are by pointing out rehashed shit.

>>142911449
There's no "other world" in Scrapped Princess, retard.

It's just a straight fantasy that's actually a dystopian sci-fi future.

>>142911053
>literally too autistic to understand why people enjoy self-insert stories
And look at that, with one exception all those shows aired this year. I bet you didn't even watch that exception, or noticed how nobody was complaining about it back then.

>>142911379
What's the matter, not enough fights and action for you?

>>142911505
>And look at that, with one exception all those shows aired this year
Kind of speaks to how overdone this shit is getting if OP can list off that many shows from this year alone doesn't it?

>>142911527
Are you really trying to be snarky with this show? Even the character interaction and time loop is shit.

>>142911554
Considering how different all of them are, not really. Isekai isn't so much a genre as a device, anyway.

Why the fuck are people surprised that something successful becomes popular. In turn, more copies are generated to try and cash in. Television, cinema, video games and books are all guilty of doing this also.

If you're just now noticing that people copy popular themes to ensure success you must be retarded.

>>142911554
The people with buying power (a group that does not include you) enjoy this kind of thing, so don't expect it to end any time soon. Feel free to either learn to enjoy all kinds of anime or get out until it stops in ten years or so.

>>142911554
Just like the countless school comedies right?

>>142911647
>Feel free to either learn to enjoy all kinds of anime or get out until it stops in ten years or so.
Zero no Tsukaima is a decade old now.
El Hazard is two decades old.
Alice in Wonderland is over a century old.
This kind of thing isn't going away, ever.

>>142911053
There's a manga that just started where it happens to a girl instead. It's also written by a known troll author so who the fuck knows what will happen. Definitely not us because it might never be translated.

>>142911743
What he probably means is the narou isekai boom and that won't stopping anytime soon.

>>142911635
Except none of these are especially popular aside from Konosuba, a fucking satire on the whole premise?

>>142911117
Only MC-kun is interesting despite being annoying; everyone else is a very bland almost SAO tier archetype

>>142911145
>Konosuba
>good

Its the one eyed ruler of the blind. Winter sucked so much the physical embodiment of a 7/10 was king.


>>142911160
>Sleeping pills
>good

Log Horizon is a better sleeping pills show

>>142911783
The majority of the series OP listed aren't Narou works.

And Konosuba and Re:Zero are completely different from your typical Narou series.

>>142911794

Re:Zero, SAO and Log Horizon are all plenty popular.

>>142911358
>military propoganda
Seriously, the entire show is basically a giant recruitment ad for the JSDF

>>142911318
>Self-insertion
>good

That thought process allows war crimes like SAO to exist. Marche was always right.

>>142911827
>Re:Zero
Wasn't popular until it got adapted.
>SAO
Different premise altogether.
>Log Horizon
Kek, have you seen its fucking BD sales?

>>142911826
>Subversion comedy
>edgy death looping
>different

People who only watch anime have no right to complain about isekai.

There's like one show a season, two tops.

Meanwhile, the weekly Oricon rankings for light novels is regularly comprised of >50% shitty isekai novels that publishers picked up straight off of Narou. And when it isn't isekai topping the charts it's fucking Mahouka or some other type of gratuitous power fantasy.

Say what you want about the anime industry but this time around they're actually holding back the cancer for once.

>>142912051
No need to thank the anime industry, if publishers wanted more isekai stuff to get animated studios would be jumping on it. Remember that adaptations are ads paid for by the publishers.

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>>142911053

>This shit just gets worse and worse as time goes on

Well, that's really just a matter of opinion, OP. Like it or not, lots of people sincerely enjoy this genre, and are always happy to watch more. You also should try to avoid summing up all these shows as "bad" just because they have the same theme. Each of the shows you mentioned was met with varying degrees of viewer satisfaction. Some faltered where others flourished

For example, Konosuba is somewhat famous for its focus on comedy, completely different from the other shows on your list, most of which take a dark turn in the plot at some point or another. Grimgar had a lot of well animated fight scenes in its first few episodes, but many anons would agree that it was sometimes lacking in character interaction.

What I think I'm trying to say is that you should judge these shows by there individual qualities, not their collective genre. In my opinion, I wouldn't even say that Isekai is a genre at all. It's more like a plot device that's popular because it can be easily used to give the main character a fresh start. It's not over-complicated and it fulfills a basic fantasy that we all have: getting a clean slate.

So, basically, your opinions are fucking garbage and you should kill yourself

>>142911053
>being thrown into another world and all of the women there throwing themselves on their tiny dicks
I don't see what's wrong with that fantasy.

>>142912051
Kagerou Daze LN has still beat out Mahouka LN in yearly volume sales for the past three years. So there's still something that isn't a power fantasy near the very top.

It won't be able to influence any trends though because Kagerou Daze is literally impossible to imitate.

>>142911053
>Outbreak Company, GATE, Grimgar, Konosuba,
All of these are actually quite different from another. Re:Zero is quite different too. The premise might be the same, but the execution differs significantly.

>>142912122
So apparently magic academy battle harems are still more popular than isekai?

>>142911343
>one tricky pony characters
>likeable
End yourself.

There are barely any, Outbreak and Konosuba are nothing like Gate which are nothing like Grimgar. They're literally different genres.
Also outbreak > Konosuba, Konosuba gets stale extremely quickly.

>>142911449
I fucking hated scrapped princess, the only good character died and the original ruler destroyed all of 99.9% of humanity nuked the rest back to the stone age because she was scared of losing.

>>142911358
>>142912153
>>142912217
these, to be honest

The Japanese worker bee needs his escapism to get through the day.

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The genre isn't the bad thing really its just that Japan makes it generic garbage.

I mean look at Overlord, That shit was fucking amazing.

GATE was pretty decent even though I didn't like S2 that much.

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>>142911053
I agree that I wish it would end, but Re:Zero is amazing anon. Truly AOTS

All this talk makes me realize that we still haven't gotten an adaption of a true by-the-numbers Narou work yet.

You know, with RPG stats, a demon king, a harem made up of various fantasy races, an adventurer's guild, convenient currency conversions, an OP MC with cheat skills, etc.

Konosuba is literally the closest we've gotten and that's only because it lines up all the cliches in a row to knock them down.

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>>142911358
>>142912370
It pleases me to see some love for Outbreak Company.

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>>142911053

>implying that japan invented this genre

I cant wait Alice in wonderland anime

>>142912610
Several already exist you know.

>>142912457
Overlord didn't need to be isekai though, and was fucking terrible whenever it brings it up. It would have far better if he was just a lich that was put to sleep for thousands of years, has reawakened and wants to rule the world.
Winning that fight using p2w bullshit was the stupidest part of the show.

>>142911053

My complain about Sekai stories are male MCs, i want female mcs with common sense and strong personality

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>>142912688
>female MCs

>>142912688
Go read Alice in Wonderland.

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>>142912688
>females
>common sense
>strong personality
Good joke.

>>142912688
Just read alice in wonderland.

>>142912688
but who would build the harem?

>>142911053
>Are Japanese girls that unappealing?
What's that got to do with it?

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>>142912688

You rang?

>>142912457
>I mean look at Overlord, That shit was fucking amazing.
Overlord was THE WORST anime named in this thread.
It was absolutely deplorable.

>>142912688
That's literally Alice you retard.

>>142911826
>And Konosuba and Re:Zero are completely different from your typical Narou series
This is hilarious.
I don't think you know the amount and kind of 'different' series that exist on narou starting from some of the craziest shit that you can't even find on Nocturne.

You can easily find the same type of series with the same light hearted humour and lame jokes as Konosuba which is /a/'s first isekai parody seires and is being overhyped to death just because of the anime adaption when it's no better than say いつもの仲間と異世界道中 or この世界がゲームだと俺だけが知っている

I wonder if something like a first tensei parody series with the same lame humour gets an adaption リッチは静かに暮らしたい or maybe 邪竜転生 will it be hailed as the the next masterpiece?

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This is what happens when new animators and storywriters who grew up playing MMOs enter the anime industry, whereas in the past, animators/storywriters used classic books, films, and classic anime as inspiration....loser fucks who played MMOs all days are now in charge of anime. Miyazaki was right.

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>>142912902
>Kumoko
>common sense
If she ever had any she probably ate it a long time ago.

>>142912688
back to the 90's

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>>142912978
>いつもの仲間と異世界道中 or この世界がゲームだと俺だけが知っている

>>142912688
Just because 12 Kingdoms was good doesn't mean you can just apply that logic to everything.

>>142911053
Jesus christ I hate that face even more than his obnoxious happy-go-lucky one. Doesn't help that it always comes along with the VA sounding like he's straining to get a particularly nasty shit out.

>>142912978
You know it's not just /a/ sucking Konosuba off? If anything nips went crazier over it than we did.

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>>142913039

I wish there's a place where you can mock the shit out of these isekai trash. The comment section at the translation's blogs is full of retards and censored as fuck.

>>142912978
How is Konosuba overhyped? The most common praise for it is either waifufaggotry or that it was a polished turd in a season filled with liquid shit.

>>142913085
Kek.

That's right. All the female isekai lead I've found are nowhere near Youko-tier.

>>142913202
>I wish there's a place where you can mock the shit out of these isekai trash
There is.
It's called /a/.

>>142911343
Then you should have liked Grimgar even more.

>>142913263
I mean mocking choice passages as we read along.

Grimgar would be 10x better if it's just about a loli surviving in a harsh fantasy world.

>>142911053
>this fucking htread again
>the list goes on
Why don't you kill yourself nigger?

Those 6 minute music videos where the camera just follows the cast in Grimgar was awful.

>>142913263
You can't mock any web novels with a fanbase here. You'll just get shitposted.

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>isekai is a genre

>>142911053
I just watched the first episode of OP's pic and it was okay. Does it get worse later on?

>>142912153
/thread

>>142913500
Yes. The first arc is pretty good since it keeps the story moving at a reasonable clip, but the second arc is torture as the show forces you to spend shitloads of time with these terrible characters doing nothing but bullshitting,

>>142913500
Not really, people don't like the mansion arc because it took 7 episodes to finish everything but they were pretty good. It gets better, it has a hero's journey and development.

>>142913577
I just hate how the main girl has a perpetual blush on her face.

>>142913577
And the fucking curse dogs. Ugh.

>>142913307
Grimgar isn't tongue in cheek, it's droll and dull.

>>142913605
I fucking hate how she's voiced by that Megumeme VA.

>>142913577
> Bullshitting.
I'd disagree but it'd be a long argument.

I will kill myself when Mushitko Tensei becomes the next SAO.

>>142911053
Just watch a different genre then

>>142913613
> Ugh.
This ain't Reddit.

>>142913653
>megumeme
>tfw dropped memesuba before she appeared so I can enjoy Emilia just fine

Feels good to not fall for the vocal memesters. Deen and memesuba are SHIT.

I was hoping that these types of shows would replace battle harems but instead they just coexist and have harems of their own

>>142911053

I remember reading a comment from one of the mid sized LN editors that it's time for a turn over and some fresh ideas in light novels because they've thoroughly stagnated. In general the whole late night anime scene and related material is just beyond ridiculously over saturated with samey crap at this point. I've kind of stopped paying attention too and watching most of it directly because it reminds me of pulp fiction and what was happening just before the 1983 Video Game market crash

>>142913680
it won't get an anime, if it did it would be almost entirely sol

>>142911287

>If you have one element that slightly subverts an expectation or possibly lampoons it that makes it good

Why they're able to get away with this, low ass standards.

>>142911476

And he was pretty on point too wasn't he?

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>>142913759
>Re:Zero
> Harem
Well, you're not exactly wrong...

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Wait till real isekai war begins. Starting with Nazi loli, then complain.

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can someone make a "i wish i was at home" edit here?
Arthur looks like Naofumi too, can we have also a shieldbro version?

>>142913988
Shieldbro jumped the shark when they removed him as the underdog.

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>>142913653
>hating a great newcomer VA because she voiced a popular character in a popular show
You're so pathetic I can't even find proper words for my disgust.

>>142911499
They are technically in another world. It's been isolated and basically apart where they have magic.

>>142914019
That is getting fixed in the LN.

The Narou boom can't end until they adapt Kumoko.

>>142912201

Isn't that the one that regularly sells like 500,000 copies per volume that Shaft and Aniplex rushed into a cash in adaptation on the same season Love Live Second Season came out only for it to bomb well below expectations because the original author they got to do the scripts had no idea how to write TV scripts and Shaft just flubbed the animation? I remember that was yet another one billed as the next big thing in anime that wasn't at all.

>>142914043
Barely, they fixed the worldbuilding but there remains the one dimensional villain and haremshit antics. Spearhero was just autistic (not joking).

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>>142914081
Yes.

>>142914117
Not really autistic, just an idiot with a heart of gold.

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We need a real fantasy warfare. Fuck the battleharem and isekai genre.

>>142911053
>I've been summoned into a parallel world
Isn't the usual response to this shit supposed to be "I must be dreaming"?

>>142914186
You kidding me, Spear hero story was just insanity and sheer stupidity that even Subaru looks pale in comparison (and his hero's journey is decent).

>>142911053
its a dream for betas that could never thrive in this world....... and japan just happens to be a nation for such people. yes, japan is in love with this idea.

>>142914254
No, the proper response is "ooga booga where da elf wimminz at".

>>142912530
i liked all, outbrake included...... couldnt you all just chill and enjoy the show?

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>>142914081
You bet.

>>142914259
I think we're not in the same wavelength here. But i do understand what you were talking about, and i agree with you... Though i wish someone stepped up to translate it, nobody seems to be translating it right now an the last tl was a year ago if i remember correctlyThough my point still applies.

>>142914208
I think aslan is filling that space. Utawaremono s2 failed.

>>142911111
Were they ever good? Remember Dual?

>>142911053
Did you seriously just equate GATE and Konosuba as part of the same type of show because they both involve a fucking parallel world? GATE isn't even a summoning/reincarnation. These have about as much in common with fucking Wood Beyond the World as as they do with each other.

>>142914081
I doubt they expected anything for it. It doesn't matter how popular the source material for something is if it doesn't appeal to the anime watcher demographic. Why do you think it only got 12 episodes? It's because Aniplex knew that you can't sell anime unless it panders to otaku.

>>142914254
The usual response is to bring up your stats window and stare in awe at your cheat parameters and then head to the nearest adventurer's guild and register as an F rank adventurer so you can use all your god-like powers to scrub toilets and collect bear asses during which you'll accidentally bump into a traveling adventurer girl who will soon join your harem along with the halfbreed abused slave girl that you will buy in the next ten chapters.

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>>142914416
That was pure bullshit. I enjoy Arslan and all but even I know there is a problem with the story. It even lacked a theme. If they wanted to adapt a real LN, then they should have gone with Nanasawa's works.

>>142914416
arslan is hot garbage tho

>>142914473
Kagerou Daze appeals to otaku, the problem is that it's a fucking song series and that popularity in that format doesn't usually translate to popularity in anime format so easily.

Not that it matters, because the anon you're replying to is Aniplex guy, and he's likely about to respond with some long rant about modern anime fans and MAL and shit.

>>142914552
Kagerou Daze appeals to fujoshi, you mean.

>>142911053
>people thinking this is a Japanese thing
You really aren't familiar with Western fantasy at fucking all, are you?

>>142914208
Alderamin is coming to save the senki genre that has been sullied by the likes of Madan and Ochitekita :^)

>>142914552
I was confused with Kagerou Daze, should I even bother remembering it? If I remember correctly, it only mixed songs with the dialogue to where the story was getting less coherent and hard to watch.

>>142914581
Fujoshi are otaku.

>>142914497
>buy
Not liberate?

>>142914552
>doesn't usually translate to popularity in anime format so easily.
It worked well enough for the light novels though.

>>142914581
Then why is the overwhelming majority of fanart hetero?

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>>142914624
Alderamin has gone to the fiery pits of hell with those designs, and you wouldn't even care if the heroine died if she had that design. Why can't they just do a coherent story or adapt something decently? They killing themselves like pic related and only one can remain.

It's just the current flavor of the month fad. These things come and go.

>>142913476
Saying Isekai isn't a genre is like saying Mecha isn't a genre.

>>142912051
>that publishers picked up straight off narou
Why do they pay money to buy garbage printed on paper when they could read that same garbage online for free?

>>142914758
News flash pal, it isn't.

>>142913765
>reminds me of what was happening just before the 1983 Video Game market crash
How fucking old are you?

>>142914756
She won't die in the anime, unless it gets another season, which it won't.

>>142914506
Damn what was that anime with the tiger head guy? That was supposed to be epic but it also failed. And vandress was a shitty adaptation too. Hell, I liked oda nobuna more and it's a different genre. Is there and nice fantasy epic anime besides utawaremono s1?

>>142914624
You can shit on Madan all of you want but I actually prefer some of its battles and startegies(non-magic ones) to the other "senki" series.

>>142912688
Watch Rayearth

>>142914798
>Despite everyone commonly agreeing that mecha is a genre, I'm going to say it isn't because I don't like it

Tumblr would literally be a great place for you.

>>142914810
>epic

>>142914810
Utawarerumono failed when it went into science fiction. Should have stayed like the first half and been straight from there.

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>>142913988
Nevermind i did one myself

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Would you rather have more fucking magic high school tournament battle harem series instead?

>>142914845
>>142914798
>>142914758
Mecha is a subgenre of Sci-fi. That's applying it as a new genre when in reality; it's part of a genre to begin with. Idiots.

>>142912778
>implying Yuri harem isn't the best harem

>>142914624
Madan has better bros and better villains than Alderamin.

Some Alderamin villains are just pure edgy trash that look like they came from Akame no Kill.

>>142911145
They're both shit.

>>142914756
>>142914208
Kuro no Maou is better.

It is literally Crusaders versus Muslims

The author even uses Arabic words for spell chants.

>>142914873
At least it was only for the last two eps. The first 23 eps were good. I didn't even mind the cgi armies.

>>142914624
Ochitekita's MC is based though and Ochitekita has a lot of battle strategy.

It isn't simply magic spamming but actual battlefield tactics.

>>142914834
Rayearth s1 was ok. S2 was shit. I didn't even finish it.

>>142914972
Why can't we have an ambitious asshole of an mc become the protagonist? No haremshit antics since the protagonist plans on winning top dog status and win the tournament with no women involved in his life. The only harem going on is the generic mc-kun on the side with his harem being fully beaten by the real mc and the real mc's plan is only on winning. Training, bromance (especially), strategies, and actual worldbuilding that is not awkward as hell.

The only problem with the "being thrown in another world" situation is that 9 times out of 10 it's just an excuse to give a lazy description of the world, either because you can have the mc not knowing everything and the other characters explaining it to him, or because you can just say "it's a mmo/mmo-like world" and you don't have to worldbuild anymore because people already know what it means.

>>142915059
Bullshit, Kuro no Maou led itself into a mess when it had gotten itself into a harem and even I know from the raws that it is going into an absolute mess of a story. Plus the bullet arts is bullshit.

>>142915059
The ring that was just shining in the ring finger of my left hand just, AaaaaaAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
It’s not here! It’s not here! The ring is gone, without leaving a single trace!!
Arrghhhh, Arrrgghhh, What shall I do! Why, that ring was my treasure, important one! THAT RING, KURONO-SAN, TO ME, TREASURE!！！


What quality writing.

How can I pretend my own writing is a translation of some Jap's writing on Syosetu so that I can get an audience? Posting on Royalroadl barely gets you any views or comments.

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>>142915250
I can't believe Katahane no Riku is starting to look more appealing than this...

>>142915286
WordPress? I remember one guy posed his own story as a Xianxia until people started to eye at him and he used a chinese translator and copied it onto a novel site and then it was clear that his story was his own. Either you know nip and make it yourself, or just be original.

>>142914506
Man, I like that a lot. I don't know whether to laugh or feel pity for the antagonists
who worked so hard to build their kingdom only for it to crumble in a couple of decades.

The problem with the isekai genre nowadays is that they are ALL THE SAME FUCKING WORLD with ALL THE SAME FUCKING WORLDBUILDING.

They could just write a massive crossover story that includes Mushoku Tensei, Shield Hero, Kumo, Slime, Overlord, Death March, and whatever other stupid WN you care to throw in there, and the mechanics overlap so closely that the settings are basically interoperable with very few adjustments.

>>142915430
Everything would have to adjust for overlord since it's heavily based on D&D. i agree with shieldbro since they can go world hopping at the end game and it makes sorta sense.

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>>142915427
Shinigami? It's all morally gray even as the protagonist is portrayed as evil, she is only following her desire to eat which is neither good nor bad and just human instinct.

>>142915286
>purposefully writing in shitty MTL prose just so you can get more views
What a way to sell out.

>>142914983
>ambitious asshole who only cares about winning
>bromance
That doesn't really work.

>>142915510
Overlord did itself with heavy bullshit when it switched to too many perspectives. The only perspective I cared about was Sebas and Tsuare. Now that was the only point of view in Overlord I enjoyed.

>>142915403
Link? I want to see the spaghetti he spilled.

>>142915607
>>142915607
>The only perspective I cared about was Sebas and Tsuare. Now that was the only point of view in Overlord I enjoyed.

Why did you write the same thing twice?

>>142915533
The protag is literal monster then.

Time to gather a band of heroes to put her down.

>>142915430
I agree, although MT doesn't have shit like stats and numbers.

I really hate that status screen BS you usually see in these types of stories.

>>142915583
> Comment about mecha as a subgenre of Sci-fi.
> Reply is entirely unrelated.
what?

>>142915636
The funny thing is I usually despise stories that pull that kind of bullshit but Log Horizon and Overlord are still some of my favorite transportation anime.

>>142915656
Fuck. Meant >>142915147 , I have no idea how I quoted the mecha thing.

>>142911053
Isekai is not an overused genre, it is an overused setting.

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>>142915633
I know the perfect maiden to hunt her down, and they met before.

I can't wait for MT or Deathmarch to get the anime treatment, it'll pop a few blood vessels in here.

>>142915686
Log Horizon actually has a decently fleshed out world. All the classes, roles, spells, everything about it is well documented and they really kept it up throughout. That's one of the few that actually feels like they're trapped in an mmo, rather than it being an mmo world that only uses it conveniently.

>>142915636
The world is still ridiculously gamey, with all the trappings like the adventurers guild(which somehow has international branches in continents that have been at constant war with each other) and dungeons that exist JUST to trap adventurers in them.

I wont even bother reading this thread but let me say this. Everyone who says rezero sucks have shit taste

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>>142911053
>isekai
>genre
>>142911111
>genre

It's a setting not a genre you fucking retards.

>>142915759
>JUST
also to trap cute moms

>>142915759
One of the problems is that Mushoku Tensei has God as too many titles to where it is the only label for the world.

>>142915782
And battle academies are settings as well, i suppose.

>>142915811
>human god
he's gonna get what's coming to him... in about two generations

>>142915617
I can't remember but it was months ago I think and it was on novelupdates until they caught on to the bullshit.

>>142915786
Said mom falls under the adventurer category.

>>142915840
Hitogami did LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG.

>>142915759
Gamey worlds are old hat at this point - TTRPG-reminiscent settings got old in the 90s (with adventurers and dysfunctional parties and everything). The actual game mechanics are really the only argument for a fundamental difference between those old ones and the MMO trend we have now.

>>142911053
You're a pleb, but you're kind of right. Too bad the otaku of japan are too busy fapping to the girls to even care about the amazing fantasy world setting.

>>142915880
still a cute mom.

>>142915885
Hitogami is just looking after himself.

>>142915833
>battle academies are settings as well, i suppose.
Yes, they are. Usually they wind up being some mix of action/harem/comedy/romance genres and are directed towards a shounen demographic. That doesn't mean you can't have a battle academy which is a totally different genre though.

>>142915889
Are there any isekai novels with honest to goodness murderhobo protagonists?

There's certainly a lot of murder but not so many hobos.

>>142915900
If I were teleported to one of those worlds, regardless of how many beautiful women were around i'd spend my time admiring the architecture and forests t b h.

>>142915978
So Death march?

>>142915964
>a shounen demographic
If you aren't talking about actual shounen then call a younger male demographic, you fucking weeb.

>>142911433
That's why you need to go outside more. I mean I can't even walk down the street without running into an elf village hiding in the trees, and the dragon infestation down the road slows my mail at least a week.

>>142915996
Yes.

>>142915725
Try knights and Magic

>>142915967
>misquoting a post about misquoting
You did that on purpose, didn't you?

>>142916027
I'd take dragons over brown snakes, funnel webs, and salt water crocs any day

>>142915147
instead of no women he could just be an asshole with women like unbreakable machine dolls protag.

>>142915996
Death march is more finding something passable as japanese food to eat than admiring the architecture/ And escaping a tower flooding with salt

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>>142911053
>When will this genre die already?
>names 4 anime of completely different genres.

>>142916004
>weeb
>as an insult
>on /a/

>>142911053
>Outbreak Company, GATE, Grimgar, Konosuba, the list goes on.
Most retarded comparison list I've seen in a week. Congratulation.

Re:Zero > KonoSuba > NGNL > Grimgar > Log Horizon > .hack//SIGN > Overlord >> Sword Art Online > Mondaiji Tachi

>>142916207
Using shounen to mean "any media targeted at young males" instead of the English terms, is actual weeabooism, the kind that has always been reviled here, not the "he likes anime so he's a weeb" kind.

>>142916137
You say that now but after losing your third mailman and your neighbors dog you'll understand. Not to mention the damage it's done to property values.

>>142912996
Fuck. Go be right somewhere else.

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>>142915996
>>142916196
Death March is terrible. Even I know how people defend it as comfy but with no silver lining whatsoever. It pales in comparison to the comfort of this goburin

>>142916224
>Mondaiji below SAO
>NGNL that high
>only one .hack

On a side note, isekai shit happened in real life before. This dude tried to build his own kingdom, implement socialism and abolish slavery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Mang

>>142916280
What's wrong with the mailman? Is it because dragons can't resist a man in a uniform?

>>142916365
>isekai shit happened in real life

>>142912996
Only that this shit has been going for a long time
Just look at Escaflowne and Rayearth (In Rayearth, Fuu also compared their quest to an RPG several times)
You bitter oldfags and your "everything new is shit" retardation should just kill yourselves
Seriously, you sound like bitter old men complaining that everything was better in the past

>>142916396
Nothing was wrong with him before the dragons .

>>142911117
Re:Zero is the worst of the group. Outbreak Company and Konosuba were fine. Grimgar and GATE are tryhard.

>>142916437
>Re:Zero
>bad
Only retards who think anything dark is edgy think this

>>142916425
Leave him alone, he's baiting.

>>142916365
>26 kinds of coins
he went full retarded

>isekai
>genre
Wew lad

>>142916471
Re;Zero is rather bad at being "dark".

>>142911160
Grimgar is probably the lamest one on the list, I like this genre, and even thought it was bad.

Call it ADD or whatever, but it was so fucking slow. It literally follows the story of the worst adventurers in the show, but with no comedic elements to make them interesting, it's just hey

>we got the shit group
>now lets proceed to suck

This set up only works if you poke fun at the characters, otherwise nobody wants to watch a mediocre team be mediocre

>>142912610
there was one before you were born

>>142911527
I liked the first arc a lot, the mansion arc was slow as fuck, and made subaru into a huge crybaby. I still have high hopes for the next one, but the mansion was shit. And the villain pay off was a dog.

>>142912153
>and you should kill yourself

I laughed because of your well thought out response ended with that.

Good on you m8

>>142911053
The main problem with this genre is the same problem with the Video Game Industry in general. An over-emphasis on select genres like MMORPGs.

If you play anything else other than the main genres, you won't feel as strong a connection to these shows.

On another note, I guess the story is when VR does happen all MMOfags will be stuck in a virtual world leaving this Earth for City-Builder, Grand Strategy and RTS master race.

Anyone got some recs for isekai with lots of emphasis on pantsu?

>>142912660
Agreed, If you're never going to show the MC in his regular human world form, the entire aspect of it being a game world is pointless, and kinda stupid.

>>142911053
B-but anon they made some witty jokes about the genre, they are totally different

>>142911053
Soon

>>142916508
The only way for a series to be bad at being dark is depending on the setting and tone.
> Re:Zero has a setting of magic and kingdoms
It can depend based on the setting of this world but it can be considered dark.
> Re:Zero has multiple tonal shifts.
Most of the things in Re:Zero has its own silver lining. Subaru and hiding some of his own fear and emotions can be one of them. The supposed slice of life has its own development and doubts on its situation as the viewer is actually aware of what is going to happen. The only time when tonal shifts are bad when things are cheerful and such is when it is pointless or lacks meaning (Akame ga Kill and its fanservice crap and shoving in comedy).

>>142916681
> Dog
It was the girl. And she's pretty important in arc 4 if we ever get to have a second season.

>>142911053

I like this genre but only if it's when the MC is flung into the far future or in a science fiction type of setting, not fantasy. I feel like that's been played out way too much at this point. There's a reason why Now and Then, Here and There is still good, the setting is what makes it stand apart.

>>142916826
Half of the time MMORPG and VR are used it's to cover up terrible writing and a lack of creativity as the characters don't actually end up working within those confines at all.

>>142911379
>I don't like this particular arc therefore this anime is shit

>>142916425
Escaflowne and Rayearth didn't indulge in this whole "uwaaaaaaa! Is this a status window?! No matter how you look at this, isn't this world just too much like a game? And what's more, these stats! 9999 in every category? Doesn't that mean every one of them is capped? Is it really okay to give me such unreasonable stats right after being reincarnated? Am I an end boss? Or maybe even a bonus boss? I'm so stroooooooong! Alright, let's test this out. Hadoken! Makankosappo! Eh, that wasn't a town I just blew up, was it? Ah, it was a town" bullshit.

>>142917228
The fuck are you talking about?

>>142917228
Good thing those OP reincarnation characters are relegated to trash WN that will never get adapted.

>>142917402
Overlord exists.

>>142915010
One day when Yuri harem become a common thing and getting heard everywhere instead of hetero harem you will mostly start to hate that cancer.

>>142916471
No, it's just shit.

>>142917332
Old summoned to another world stories don't carry anywhere near as much cliched baggage as what you get nowadays.

>>142914416
>Utawaremono s2 failed.
It still hurts.

>>142917484
Your post and sad bait attempt?
Yes, it's indeed shit
>>142917501
Whatever you say, you deranged nostalgiafag
Whatever you say

>>142911145

Konosuba got old after 2-3 episodes, only repeating the same jokes

>we are so poor
>the godess is so stupid
>mage uses explosion magic and they have to drag her around

They didn't try to hide it was only an ad either, introducing a character and all but saying you have to read the novel to get to know how they met her.

Konosuba is really overrated

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>>142913119
>tfw re:zero MC and beta-kun have the same VA

>>142914473
They expected it to sell shitload because they packed each episode on single volume and with songs bundled

>>142911053
"Does Japan really relish the idea of being thrown into another world and all of the women there throwing themselves on their tiny dicks that much?"

Uhm... yes... they they do...
Almost everyone does...

>>142917574
> Goal is to defeat the maou.
> Just fucking around.
> Still fucking around.
> Plot has not progressed other than making itself clear it is a harem comedy.
Slayers was better.

>>142917654
>all female cast

No it wasnt

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Remember when the isekai setting wasn't overused?

>>142917402
Kadokawa is pushing Death March onto Yen Press unfortunately, perhaps this is a sign of future anime like it was for Danmachi and Re:Zero.

>>142915996
>>142916048
>Implying Satou gives a shit about architecture

>Implying the author gives a shit about forests.

Death March's author is only concerned with shilling Japanese Junk Food as the ultimate luxury and he can't be half assed to invent fantasy food of his own creation.

>>142911053
>complain about classic "X is suddenly transported to another world"
>doesn't complain about "it's a SOL in a high school setting/it's a battle shounen in a high school setting/it's a war drama in a high school setting/it's a scat guro porn in a high school setting" and so on

Go fuck yourself.

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>still no Mushoku Tensei anime
Why?

>>142917789
>it's a scat guro porn in a high school setting
What's wrong with this?

>>142917789
At least the high school setting is used to express different types of stories, as you say, from shonen battle tournaments to war dramas to romantic comedies. The 'other world' setting is by and large only used to tell one type of story, the "eeh? I have a cheat power? Better become an adventurer and go on a journey while picking up chicks" story.

>>142917789

Or

>it's cute girls doing music things
>it's cute girls doing witch things
>it's cute girls doing miko things

>>142917858
You say this despite the fact that every show in the OP averts this?

>>142917703
Zero sucked though

>MC's power jump too much too fast
>Pink Hair is too tsun not enough dere
>No other viable Love Interests because Red Hair is a slut and Blonde was obviously gonna lose

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At least they're all better than shit shit

at least we can acknowledge that, right?

>>142917910
>Shana
>shit
Woah there, might wanna get that shit taste of yours checked.

>>142911053
>Does Japan really relish the idea of being thrown into another world and all of the women there throwing themselves on their tiny dicks that much?
I mean, don't you? It makes for a crappy genre when it gets so overused and is so blatantly made for wish fullfilment, but I still would jump at the chance to live something like that.

>>142917877
Exceptions that prove the rule.

The Re:Zero MC's first reaction was "oh shit I'm a isekai protag I should have some kind of super magic cheat power, welp even if I don't I can just use my knowledge of the modern world to cheat and get rich here". That this was his first thoughts demonstrates how ingrained the use of these clichés are in the overwhelming majority of "parallel world" story.

>>142917880

You forgot NTRietta.

>>142917923
Shana was garbage.

How can you stand to watch a beta male MC act like an idiot for 3 seasons

>can't tell if she likes me
>oh she likes me
>guess ill disappear and join her mortal enemies because reasons
>merges with most powerful enemy because plot
>hey why doesnt shana like me anymore
>IM YUJI SAKIA AND IM A MASSIVE FAGGOT

Might want to take them nostalgia goggles off. The OST was the only good thing about it, and it's 1st season, after that the show is pure shit

>>142916879
You haven't even watched those, have you?

>>142917963
They're not exceptions when you're talking strictly about animated adaptions, and this is a fucking anime board.

Go to /jp/ if you want to whinge on about your shitty Vietnamese Usenet novellas.

>>142918026
Yuji did nothing wrong.
He was objectively right.

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>>142918024
Fuck that bitch.

>>142917501
Escaflowne was pretty damn cliche, it's just that since you're a male and this is the 2010s, you probably haven't read that much 90s shoujo, so it seems super creative.

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>>142917880
Hime and kuudere came around to late but Siesta was pretty close until she got comfortable just being his mistress.
The Second season was the highlight of the series and it should have ended there.

>>142918069
Doesn't matter if he's right, his total obliviousness in general is aggravating.

Shana and Zero both had the same problem of the Beta male MC's out shining their heroines.

and MC is expected to become better, but generally you can't use deus ex machina to make a total worthless faggot better than someone who's been training their entire life and expect it not to feel contrived.

>>142911117
>Re:zero
>good

nice one

>>142917228
>>142917858
You guys sure are hung up on this weird stuff I never see in my anime. I hope you aren't telling me you actually read machine-translated fanfiction.

>>142918085
Why fuck Rietta? Everbody was better than Louise, hell, It's still a toss up, Red Slut could be better than Louise. Well, not really, but Louise was shit.

>>142917632
We all hate SAO so every other form of wish fulfillment deserves hatred too

>>142917963
It's a bit off-topic, since it doesn't have an anime adaptation, but do you happen to know Eien no Aselia? Any opinions on the story if you do?

>>142918106
Escaflowne was basically just Kawamori pasting robots and some bullshit ending onto the typical"high school girl goes to adventure-fantasyland and has a heart-wrenching love triangle" shoujo structure.

>>142918247
Louise was set to go full dere by the end of season 1 but the other cock hungry sluts just couldn't fuck off. No, Louise was great. Its the rest of the cast who were shit.

>>142918248
I know that was likely sarcasm, but some people seem to unironically believe that.

>>142918247
Louise is love. What's shit is your taste.

>>142911117
Re zero is the edgy edition of sao for the normies on mal. It is already in the top 50

>>142918332
>edgy edition of sao
Re:Zero has more in common with Steins;Gate than SAO.

>>142918310
All wish fulfillment shows are plot hole ridden messes like SAO therefore they deserve all the hatred in the world

>>142911117
Just another Loli fanservice harem show with no impact at all. The big part of the story is in a large mansion with lots of cute girls (lolli). A dumb, exaggerating guy makes sexistic marks on everything they do. the loli mansion people excels in combat.

Guy dies, He revives. Learns from mistakes and Treats the lolis differntly. Loli-mansion drama 2016. Dont watch.

>>142918332
>normies
>caring about MAL in any way
Fuck off.

>>142918378
>All wish fulfillment shows
I seriously can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

>>142918332
Re:Zero is great.

I like how they're not setting Subaru up to be the 2nd coming of Jesus.

I find it aggravating when sekai settings like in zero familiar make a worthless faggot into the main hero.

>>142918404
(You)

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>>142918314
Not even.

Pleb

>>142918431
Most trapped in another world nonsense is wish fullment. If not some fusion of Bleach and Prison School's worst pacing with the same 1D characters trying its damndest to not become SAO but becoming sleeping pills the series.

Seriously, isekai that don't become cancerous dick sucking are boring as fuck things that find other ways to shoot itself in the face (Grimgar and Log Horizon)

>>142918247
Red slut won Sensei and Drills won Rudy.

Henrietta came around at the worst time after ignoring Saito for ages just to shit Louise who was her childhood friend, she was a cunt.

>>142911117
Upvoted.

>>142918377
Even worse, shits gay is inferior to SAO.

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Wait until we get into otome game reincarnation. We already have a couple manga adaptations from WN>LN>manga. Pic kinda related but just an example.

>>142918609
>SAO
>better than anything

Its the only anime worse than Mars of Destruction and Gundoh Musashi

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>>142918622
Wait, this has no manga adaptation, yet. This is an example.

>>142918622
I've never read any of these, but wouldn't they basically just be Fuushigi Yuugi?

>>142918655
Tips fedora

>>142918579
When you put it like that, I suppose my hatred for tsundere characters blinded me.

>>142918684
>Plot hole ridden and full of wish fulfillment with no hints of irony
>1 dimensional characters
>not worse than those shows

It will always be the worst anime of all time due to those flaws.

>>142918719
>wish fulfillment
>bad

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There are still many "transported/reincarnated into another world" light novels which have to be adapted as an anime.

>>142918745
>Something that brutally mangles consistency and character tone turning inoffensively mediocre things into hell on earth
>good

>>142918747
And Mushitku Tenshit isn't one of them.

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>>142918332
>it's popular on MAL
>must be bad

>>142911053
>it's another near cap babby's first trope I'm the first one to ever think this guys thread
why reply

>>142918792
>it's bad because I said it's bad
Good argument.

>>142918843
Because they don't use fucking phrases I can filter effectively. Otherwise I'd filter all of them, and the greentext threads, and the "modern anime is terrible I want more Bebops!" threads, too.

>>142918248
I don't hate SAO. I don't really like it, but I don't hate it. It had nice girls, good music, and decent battles.

>>142918404
The only loli is Beatrice. What the hell were YOU watching?

>>142918792
>SAO
>hell on earth
You have some serious problems, anon. It's not even in the bottom 10% of anime.

>>142911053
>This shit just gets worse and worse as time goes on

If anything it gets better since I didn't like any of the shit you listed until konosuba and rezero.

>>142911053
>Are... girls that unappealing?
3DPD is not just a meme anon

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>>142918678
It's like this:
> Die and reincarnate into a love rival villainess in the prince route.
> You want to avoid your downfall.
> You do so but you ended up making every person on the roster in love with you, even the females.
> Flaws about you are the fact that you are an idiot.
> You are dense.
> Battle harem beta mc dense.
> She's also a monkey (I'm not joking, she climbs trees).
> Oooh-oooh-ah-ah!
This is it! And you call what you have is bad, wait till they get a load of this!

>>142918268
>Eien no Aselia
not >>142918268
but I did enjoy the fact the MC had to adapted to the new world slowly and not
even though he was basically IMOUTO every 5 mins or so

>>142919524
I dunno if I want to play it again or not. I'm kinda interested in where the story is going but that imouto shit is really bugging me.

>not watching it for the cute girls

>>142919607
The girls are shitty too.

Speaking of Eien no Aselia, any other isekai VNs?

>>142911053
shit taste

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>>142911111
> used to be

>>142919781
Koihime Musou

Duel Saviors

Muv-Luv Unlimited and Muv-Luv Alternative

>>142920277
> Koihime musou
I remember. They never included Kazuto in the anime. Which is why it went to shit.

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>>142920277
>Duel Saviors

Jesus Christ, that art.

>>142919524
Only in early and (to some extent) mid game, though.

>>142919557
The protag gets better over the time.

>>142920525
Also, the first dragon I met was a dick. Will I be able to exterminate them all?

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>Fantasy world
>Not a video game in any shape or form
>They speak using RPG terms
You think that's funny Japan?
You think that's clever?
Well it's not.

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>>142912610
Don't forget Chronicles of Narnia.