Macross Delta

Are Max and Milia still alive?

>>142864423
>shippingfag bait
shit OP

>>142864465
Fate of macross 7 fleet is unknown

dohohoho

>>142864465
Of course

Nobody remembers the twins. I want to lick their runes.

>>142864423
I can't wait for Kaname to get btfo by Arad.

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Kaname best girl

>>142864589
*worst girl

>>142864423
That scene made it really clear, you'd have to be way too dense to miss it.

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>look at me...
>alto-kun
>Alto-kun
>ALTO-KUN !!

>>142864423
>women play with their hair when they're flirting

GYUN GYUN GYUN

>Starting a thread with bait

OP why?

>>142864589
Mikumo > Kaname > Freyja

After eleven episodes, I realise that none of the characters in this are particularly endearing

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>>142864720
Sheryl > Mikumo

>>142864791
Sheryl a shit.

>>142864556

m7 fleet is fine

>>142864791
Trash>Sheryl

>>142864757
Hayate has gotten less endearing now that he's stopped being a smug shit. He peaked in episode 3. Now he's just a good-natured shounen protag.

If you can't find at least one Walkure member to like, though, you're the one with problems.

>>142864757
Agree. Freyja was cute at the beginning but she's getting a bit annoying. Mikumo is overdoing the shimpi and just seems autistic. Mirage has done basically nothing.

>>142864757
Hayate and Freyja are very endearing imo

>>142864873
>Freyja was cute at the beginning but she's getting a bit annoying
My biggest fear was that Freyja would get annoying with her attitude but that really hasn't happened and if anything it has become more subdued over time so I don't see how she's been annoying

Delta OST upload when?

>>142864904
Annoying was probably the wrong term. Shallow maybe, which is annoying to me.

>>142864906
dude, just try looking around a little

>>142865002
I don't understand this either. We know her wants and needs and her general outlook on things. I'm not saying she's some deep complex character but she's very serviceable as a lead. She doesn't feel like she's just there to just be an archetype. When I think shallow I'd usually think of someone like Mylene

>>142864720
Mikumo is fucking garbage.

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How do you want your runepika senpai?

>>142864827
They're likeable enough.

Not enough for me to find very interesting, though.

Basically only Freyja has any kind of back story. I suppose Kaname, as well. Although "failed idol somehow comes good" isn't much.

Mikumo is just shinpi and the other two have literally nothing other than comedy dialogue and

SILENT

HACKER

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Will Keith live to the end of the show?

>>142865585
No

He still has to answer for Messer's death

>>142865556
Someone in another thread made this observation that the show started with Freyja getting the screentime then for the last three episodes it was Kaname getting a subplot, predicting the next bunch would be MakiRei with Mikumo being the last and tying into the true mystery of the plot which would line up with the final episodes

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>>142865529
I want all of them, but i'll have to take the blue rune one if limited to one. She clearly needs me to kiss it pink and glowy again.

>>142865620
I don't think the show will have much time for back story now when shit is about to hit the fan. MakiRei got their (admittedly shallow) backstory in 7. Shinpi's backstory is plot related

>>142865529
I just want the one with the smugface

So, am I meant to know what that big ship is supposed to be?

>>142865687
It's not like they have to spend a lot of time on it, they could find a way to tie it into the story for sure. Worked for Kaname and Messer

>>142865704
We wuz Protoculture and shieeet

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>>142865704

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>that cockpit
What a nice touch

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>>142864791
Sheryl >= Mikumo > rest >>> Ranka

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>>142864757

>>142865632
>http://www.movic.jp/shop/g/g00705-00603-00001/
I think they all come in one package.

>>142865966
>Mikumo > rest
Am I seriously supposed to not think Freyja isn't > than Mikumo right now? Because I do.

I honestly like Kaname more than Mikumo too

>>142864610
Clear as the shit you're pulling out of your ass. Everyone else but you Arad shitters can tell that she was just putting up a strong front that she was fine and not flirting.

Sheryl was an annoying cunt, I'm convinced that 90% of the people that like her only want to have sex with her

>>142866179
That was how it started but over time I realized she was the best girl. Actually I realized she was the only girl in the show I liked other than Klan.

I thought she was honestly the best female in the franchise until Freyja came along, now it's kind of a toss-up

>>142864874
they have had hardly any interaction for what seems like five episodes

>>142865078
I have seen this a few times on 2ch and on the anti threads.
There have been some snide comments about the producers purposely trying to make the main characters as un-hateable as possible, which might result in them being comparatively bland, to avoid a repeat of Frontier where there would be a large vocal fan base that hated some of them.

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>>142866086
If you don't think Mikumo >>> rest of Walkure combined, you are doing it wrong.

>>142866179
Her design isn't even good. She's ugly. The character art style in Frontier is ugly. And then she has man brows. I just dont understand her appeal. Killer bodies are a dime a dozen in anime, so why not one with a nice face and good personality instead to go?

>>142866279
She's got the most sex appeal, i'll give you that. But Freyja is the little darling, and Kaname is like a gentle oneesan i never had. Mikumo only has the shinpi

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>>142866248
Because their lives don't revolve around each other since this isn't Frontier where shipping decides everything but were they not hanging around together, along with Mirage, in the last couple of episodes

>>142866279
I'll do it as wrong as I want as long as I prove best girl is best

>>142866178
0/10
You don't even sound like a butthurt shipper, you just sound like bait.

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>>142866179
>>142866289
Sheryl best thing this franchise ever prodeced.
In fact, she's bigger than Macross itself.

>>142866289

And then adding to that, we have that her fans are completely insufferable >>142866384

I like Sheryl and she's my favorite girl from F but I hate how Frontier feels like it's become the end all be all to Macross.

>>142865704
It's basically the windermeran SDF-1

>>142866493
>F fans everyone

>>142866493
Frontier is the first Macross most fans in the internet age saw because only a handful saw 7 and 4chan didn't exist yet.

>>142864423
>Messer getting cucked even in death

JUST

>>142866359
>gets called out on your obvious shitposting bait
>proceeds to accuse for baiting
Sounds like your a fucking newfag. Troll harder retard.

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Remember 16 anon
https://jii.moe/41d7tOF4Z.webm

>>142866548
It was my first one too but you never see anybody talking about SEED like it was the only Gundam that matters

>>142866492
youre getting trolled mate. Did you miss the john lennon joke?

>>142865585
Yes, he has plot armor.

>>142864423
This low level bait and shitposting.

>>142866493
The waifu war fucked people up real bad

>Arabs made it into space
Now this is simply ridiculous.

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>>142866588
Can someone put a ghost Messer in this somewhere?

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>>142866493
Because it's the best one so far in the franchise:

- Sheryl, best singer and woman
- Brera suprior bogfights
- Sheryl x Alto, best OTP.
- Macross Quarter is better than all older ships
- Incest for real and not just teased
- Best valkyrie YF-29
- Grace best and terrifying enemy

Delta isn't even half cour tho, there is plenty of time to improve.

>>142866634
Are you new? Everyone talked about SEED until 00 arrived.

Old /m/ was all about SEED

>>142866676
Klan klan is so cute

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>>142866641
well fuck, I'm going to bed

>>142866662
>Arabs
You mean British

>>142866697
Nobody ever talked about Macross Zero that much

>>142866662
They just followed the french and hitched a ride on galaxy

>>142866742
Because it was an OVA and didn't really get a lot of high profile advertising

>>142866676
>Because it's the best one so far in the franchise:
Frontier is not better than SDF, go fuck yourself

>>142866742
There's not much to talk about in Zero

>>142866771
>nostalgiafags

>>142866676
Horrible character designs
Horrible panderbait characters
Uninteresting bad guys
Uninteresting keikaku doori plot
Very hit and miss music, especially the movies were rife with misses

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>>142866771

>>142866279
Mikumo is shit. Please kill yourself.

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>>142866825
>Horrible character designs
nigga check your taste

>Horrible panderbait characters
bait characters were punished with cuckery, humiliation, death, or all combined.
It was a lesson against mainstream archetypes.

>>142866861
You posted this to support that anon's point, right?

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>>142866771
>sdf

>>142866771
I would agree with you if SDF didn't have those twelve or so episodes of filler at the end.

>>142866771
Mospeada was better

>>142866198
Really glad the Kaname fandom is improving. If the producers do the same with Makina and Reina then the newtype poll will be blown away.

>>142866269
I noticed that also. They are really trying to make the main characters as like able as possible and editing away flaws from them. If they have to sulk or be depressed they make sure they get over it immediately, because those traits are deemed unlikeable by a lot of anime fans (main reason ranka failed).

It's like they plan on making each and every character liked. I'm pretty sure Chuck, Makina, Reina, Arad and the captain are going to have their moments too, Mikumo's will come last because she is the plot.

>>142867060
Kaname is comfy-tier.

>tfw you will never call her onee-san

how long until ghost jellyfish messer?

>>142867182
>Mikomo's will come last because she is the plot device

FTFY. She's either going to sacrifice herself or reveal herself as the Sea Goddess or something.

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>>142867182
Mikumo is the whole idea

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How is it that this one girl is the plot of the show? She isn't one of the main three characters yet the plot is her. It's being done unique, everything is revolved around her, yet not towards her.

I don't get it. How will this all happen? I don't understand what they could plan to use her for.

I really am curious as to who Lady M is. But after today's episode, it seems that Delta is really trying to be similar to 7, so Mylene is a good bet.

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What is this face trying to convey?

Are we getting a new OP after next week?

>>142867258
That's the idea I get from this image. She is the whole concept of Delta. I'm curious as to who the first designed character was. I know Mirage and Hayate were the last two created.

Even in that Image she is breaking the various triangles, and producing life from her hair. I'm starting to think the promotional image with Mirage's name spelt wrong was done on purpose.

>>142867414
"Don't worry yourself on my account."

>remember 16 with vocal for the first time plays in episode 17
like pottery

>>142864757
Wait for Hayate to go full edge and murder Windermerans while the idorus beg him to stop

>>142866861
Was that supposed to disprove something?

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>>142867576
Because you'd be remembering the other 16 episodes.

>>142867293
>How is it that this one girl is the plot of the show?
She's a key of the show but I don't think they mean she's the whole show. It's like how Sara was the key to the plot of Zero, only becoming apparent at the end

>>142867182
Chuck is already bro-tier. He doesn't have to be super popular. Also he's the new Kakizaki so I'm trying not to get to attached

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>>142866548
>tfw your intro to macross was robotech and that awful dyrl dub with british actors

>>142867182
I think the problem will be is making them likeable enough to make them interesting to watch as entertainment?

>>142866529
Sdf-1 is smaller than Battle class.

>>142867832
I don't see how they aren't entertaining

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>>142867830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtthuOBGUQY

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>>142866825
Panty episode not on the list? Slipping there anon, slipping.
>>142866493
Sheryl is my second favorite female character of Macross, first being Sharon but admit, pic related is lovely as well.
And no, she is no my first choice in Delta - that would be Kaname.

>>142867923
that's the one,I have no idea how I made it through

>>142867293
>>142867481
>>142867682
So...Ifurita?

>>142867830
...i feel sorry for you anon. Stay strong.

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>This girl will win the Hayabowl

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>>142866493
It's the SEED of Macross.

See >>142866676

>Because it's the best one so far in the franchise:

>Lacus, best singer and woman
>Kira suprior bogfights
>Kira x Lacus, best OTP.
>Archangel is better than all older ships
>Sex on screen for real and not just teased
>Best mobile suit Freedom Destiny
>Le Creuset best and terrifying enemy

>>142868074
wouldn't athrun replace Brera

>>142868074
I may not think Frontier as the best but I'll rewatch it a million times over Seed

>>142868065
Good. The Jenius genese must spread.

>>142868065
god i hope so.

>>142868065
>people actually believed that pink Ranka was going to win

>>142867975
Who saw inside her Mikumos?

>>142867682
>>142867258
>producing life representing Kawamori as the creator of the franchise
>broken triangles representing kawamori's dislike of the love triangle

BRAVO

>>142866493
What? This is a better show than Frontier so far, and I enjoyed Frontier.

>>142868065
She's pretty alright I don't get the hate. Freyja's pretty alright too, but she is like 14. Maybe next time they'll have the same age and make the audience wonder who the MC will end up with.

>>142869495
Yeah, we can't pair Hayate with an old hag like Freyja. Cakes can't win.

>>142867975
I WANNA TOUCH KUMO'S HAIR

>>142867975
I want to see myself into her, all the way.

What's the name of the song in the first episode?

>>142868519
Heinz. Keith and old king got a pantyshot.

>>142870043
Ikenai Borderline

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>>142864589
>No scene in episode 11 where Kaname just cries alone for 1-2 minutes
Kawamori, you disappointed me

MUH WIND

>>142870243
No one cares about that old hag

>>142869495
>She's pretty alright I don't get the hate.
I don't hate her, I just think she hasn't had any kind of romantic development or character moments the same way Hayate has had with Freyja.

>Freyja's pretty alright too, but she is like 14
Yeah, she's already middle aged

Seriously, what the fuck are you even saying

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>>142870243
Implying her intro into Giraffe Blues didn't carry the necessary effect

>>142870243
It's not like Kaname wasn't in pain over Messer's death. She was in tears during the funeral and when she sang in farewell to him. She's also the leader of Walkure and they're in a middle of a war. She has to keep her head high for everyone and not give in to grief because there's no time for that.

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>>142864423
Anyone else wish they hadn't ruined this nice moment with these janky ass mouth flaps

Kaname likes Messer as a fan

>>142870526
This episode looked awful in so many ways.

>>142870243
As much as you shippingfags want it to happen, Kaname was not in love with Messer. She regarded him as a close colleague, for sure, but not any moreso than someone like Makina or Reina. This only changed when he gave her the bracelet and thanked her, but not nearly to the point where she suddenly fell for him, and more like she probably thought of him as her most precious fan.

Would Kaname like to pop xanax and listen to Yung Lean with me in my mom's basement?

>>142870721
Not to mention it's been overtly stated that she likes the captain

>>142870743
no she's probably rather sit on arad's dick

>>142870558
this desu

>>142870763
I do believe Kaname wasn't in love with Messer. That seemed more like a "I saved you, you saved me" thing. It was more like a tragic what-could-have-been scenario

At the same time I don't believe Kaname likes Arad either because the show hasn't actually shown anything between them that I would think of as romantic

>>142869495
Is it weird for 17 years old guy to going out with 14 years old girl? Because it's very usual in my country.

What's the Windermerian age of consent?

At this rate Kaname is going to fuck Arad and you guys won't believe she has something with him.

>>142870763
>it's been overtly stated she likes the captain
This delusion has to stop. There has been no indication that Kaname likes Arad other than a friend and colleague. Anyone who believes the bullshit from the mouths of the bridge bunnies are retarded and fail to read the mood of the scenes when they're together. There's absolutely no sexual tension between them.

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>>142871123
I believe 9 yo

>>142871181
Denial yo, that's what you get when dealing with shipperfags

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>That Rhapsody in C Minor OST
I came, I hope they will play it when Haya and Mira get good and dance together

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>>142864423
I feel like this episode seals the deal for me on Delta being the 3rd worst Macross.

It's so fucking cheesy and overdramatic and on top of that after all this time a majority of the characters still don't really have their motivations set in place or are even interesting without having them. Plus the handling of the side characters is very sloppy. I literally forgot this big titty bitch even existed. The bridge bunnies from SDF and even fucking Nanase had a better presence than what Delta throws for its characters.

SDF >> Frontier >>>>> Plus >> Delta >>>> Macross 7 > Zero

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>>142871387
> Too dumb to realize that Kaname, Reina and Makina are the equivalent of the bridge bunnies.

>>142871387
>this low level bait and shitposting
Try harder faggot.

>>142871387
AND

>>142871714
I don't think he's a Roboshitfag anon. But he's definitely a pretentious Macross "purist" and nostalgiafag.

>>142871123
14 is considered late to get married so probably like 12 or something

>>142871387
>frontier that high

>>142870526
>>142870591
animators were probably crying while drawing the frames

>>142871848
The power of Messer's death.

>>142871387
(you)

>>142870526
Kawamori is just making sure Macross lives up to the quality standards it always had

>>142871387
>7 that low
>Frontier that high
>Zero last
Shittiest of tastes. And really? Delta is too overdramatic? Delta the one that practically has no interpersonal melodrama at all? When you have Plus in there?

>I literally forgot this big titty bitch even existed.
She's like a teritary character. It's not like the shot focused on her that much much

>The bridge bunnies from SDF and even fucking Nanase had a better presence than what Delta throws for its characters.
The bridge bunnies were in like every episode, you know, like the actual bridge bunnies in Delta, however as anon said, it's more clear that the side Walkure members are equivalent to the bunnies.

And please, nobody remembers Nanase. Who seriously talks about Frontier's side characters, let's be real here.

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So I want Girrafe Bues:

Walkure Version
Freyja Version
Mikumo Version
And duet between Freyja and Mikumo because their harmonization at the end of the song was gold.

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I'm really getting sick of 7 being so underrated.

It's not perfect of course, but there are so many who didn't finish it or just didn't get how well it tied itself together at the end.

>>142871897
>7 that low
Because everyone loved the jump of flying planes with guitars with major hijinks every episode in what is originally a mildly comical Sci-Fi anime, right? Besides what other Macross do you know that you have to say "It gets good x episodes in"
>Frontier that high
Largely agreed to have the best music, carries an okay cast and solid dramatical moments. Why the fuck wouldn't it be?
>Zero last
Birdmen.
Enough said. Nice animation can only go so far.

LITERALLY being contrarian for the sake of it. The "shit taste" meme is telling enough

sound familiar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3nfweteZck

>>142872095
Kyun Kyun when?

>>142872132
Your praise of Frontier is highly unwarranted especially regarding the cast

>>142871965
I wonder if they are going to make all version open for the OST

>>142872095
I wouldn't say 7 is good but I love it to death

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>>142872095
It's not "underrated" it gets all the shit it deserves for being a complete concept fucker.

It gets every bit of justice it deserves amongst the fans.

Now,it'd be a perfect world if Gundamfags would open up their eyes and do the same with ZZ

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>they remembered 16

feels good man

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>>142867975
>tfw mikumo actually looks like this in real life

>>142872095
Too drawn out. It just needed 24 episodes.

>I'm not gonna cry
>I'm not gonna cry
>I'm not gonna cry
>start sobbing uncontrollably

>>142872564
hi tumblr

>>142872480
>it gets all the shit it deserves for being a complete concept fucker.
Except I already said it wasn't perfect. It's just not bad either

Remember 16 this episode was nice, I hope that gets included in the album.

>>142872095
The only reason why I didn't finish it was because of how dragged out it was. Couldn't really skip much parts either. It only need 20 or so episodes.

>>142872755
NO. the 10 episodes of singing to sivil and failing because of an attack interrupting it was very much needed

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>>142872502
>Remember 16 played the same episode a mountain moves

BRAVO
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Messer Finally gets merchandise

>>142872755
I'm not saying it shouldn't have been shorter, it definitely should have been but you should still give it a chance and finish it

>>142873099
Maybe when Im really bored. I usually watch anime when I have nothing to do. Ive dropped many anime when they are just too plain and boring. Bored and Boring dont go well together

>>142872785
I think people just have a problem with the beginning. It takes like 15 episodes to get started. Still my favorite though.

7 > Delta > SDF > everything else

Introducing a new character to be part of the main crew this late into the series seems pretty weird

>>142873061
fucking brutal

>>142873230
Didn't Max show up midway in SDF?

>>142873230
I'm pretty sure they won't do that. If they do, it'll be like Lady M and her personal team

>>142873061
Best boi need more love and merch.

According to this episode:

Messer 37%, Arad 21%, Chuck 16%, Hayate 14%, Mirage 12%

>>142873474
Damn, they're all useless.

>>142873474
Huh?

>>142873474
Where did you get those numbers? We know Arad said Messer was 37% but the rest didn't show up in the episode.

>>142873474
>Arad 21%, Chuck 16%, Hayate 14%, Mirage 12%
Where did these numbers come from

>>142873529
Even if we assume those numbers are true, I mean, kind of yeah?

They're not a full military unit. They aren't even really equipped to deal with the Windermereans. Before episode 1, they just shot down rogue Regults and lower-tech Workroids or some shit. Messer really was the one carrying the team since he was the most skilled. And plus, they are only just now getting reinforcements. It's a miracle they've gotten through as they have

>>142865966
Sheryl > *

>download ost
>see tags in japenese, think it's tagged properly
>it's not

Why does it keep happening.

>>142864757
They're all okay, other than Mirage because she had no development at all, but that should count as writers fault.

Don't tell me Mirage have development anyway, if so the "Mirage is irrelevant" meme should at least become "Mirage a shit" already.

>we don't need reinforcements
What the fuck is wrong with Hayate and why does he get to decide that? The whole fucking cluster is in jeopardy but he won't accept new blood in the squad? I don't

>>142874047
Gamlin's flying with them next episode whether Hayate likes it or not

>>142873984
I thought it wasn't out until the 22nd.

>>142865943
>putting in his fucking death shot
>singing remember 16
man those kids fucking hated Messer

>>142873906
Since he hasn't responded we can assume he was pulling those numbers out of his ass.

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TIME MACHINE INCOMING

>>142874089
I would be fine with that. I think there is far too much going on in the show to introduce a new character at this point, but using a character from a past show would work fine.

>>142874089

>Gamlin's flying with them next episode

That would be fucking amazing

>>142874264
But why of all people Gamlin? Is it because he's still with NUNS?

>>142874089
wouldn't somebody already in a PMC, like the SMS make more sense? Chaos seems to be a separate entity from NUNS

>>142874255
>Hayate goes back in time to save Messer

>>142874255
>Bilrer from Frontier wanted the vajra network to transcend time and see Minmay
SASUGA KAWAMORI

>>142874596
>Roid was just another Minmay waifufag

>>142872480
It's still in a another level than Frontier. Frontier was a casual anime for people from the 2000s full of turns and characters that were pretty much unlikeable (only Klan and Michelle were pretty much the best of Frontier), at least 7 tried to be full peace full rock, altough the animation sucked and the pacing was totally weird, the series delivered what it meant.

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Wait, Keith's machine is just a regular cannon fodder Valk with no modifications? I thought the White Knight would get special treatment like Brera did in Frontier.

>>142874950
He's just talented.

>>142874950
His Draken is custom made. Who says they don't spare or can't build him a new one with the specifications?

>>142874950
It's custom painted that's all you need

>>142875018
Who says they don't have a spare or can't build him a new one with the same specifications?*

>>142870065
>What panties?

>>142874805
I feel like the movies improved Frontier a shitload, though.

>>142874805
Macross series are not that great. But their songs are the best.

>>142873474
Your numbers are off. Actual numbers are:
Messer: 37%
Arad: Off-screen
Chuck: Off-screen - 4%
Hayate/Mirage: Remaining number / 2

So when do the Windniggers get BTFO by lady M who turns out to be Millia?

>>142874147
[Mashin] [160622] TVアニメ「マクロスΔ」オリジナルサウンドトラック1 [第6, 8, 10話挿入歌収録] [MP3]

>>142875522
Where did you get Chuck's combat potential if its off-screen?

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>>142875656
Well assuming that the remaining portion is in fact 67% and we aren't using Zentrandi math here:
>Assuming that Hayate and Mirage are at least 10% of the teams strength individually, that occupies 20%
>Which leaves 47%
>So, if we assume that Arad is the 2nd best, his share is larger
>So, that means that Arad is 27%
>Which leaves chuck at 23%

Meaning we have a 7% surplus because Walkure is just that amazing

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How the fuck was this allowed to air? Absolutely sickening

>>142875522
It's likely
Hayate 12%
Mirage 12%
Chuck 14%
Arad 28%

>>142875636
>>142874147

Dammit

For a second I thought someone leaked the Walkure OST a month early

>>142875848
You're doing your math wrong as the remaining portion is 63% not 67%. And you can't simply assume those numbers either. Ideally each member should have 20% combat potential since there are 5 members in Delta platoon. But since Messer is the ace and overall better than everyone else he's almost worth 2 pilots in the team. Arad is definitely at least 20% as he's a vetaran pilot and squad leader.

>>142876199
That's total of 66 and you went over by 3.

>>142876426
He couldn't finish middle school.

>>142876308
[160622] TVアニメ「マクロスΔ」オリジナルサウンドトラック1 [MP3]

They did.

>>142876743
That's just the OST 1 and not the first Walkure album that's scheduled for July 6.

I love all of Gigils singing scenes more than anything else in the entire Macross universe

Let me get this straight.

In Delta episode 1, we have the fateful meeting between the triangle and the hero getting in the Valkyrie, just like in Frontier episode 1.
In Frontier, Alto spends two episodes, 2 and 3, on deciding whether to join, but Hayate gets it done in only one episode and Freyja even has her audition in the same episode, whereas Ranka had to do it in episode 4.
Then instead of having a training episode in episode 4 like in Frontier, Delta has it in episode 3.
Meanwhile in episode 4 of Delta, we get a debut episode which would happen in episode 12 of Frontier.
We next get a date(?) episode in episode 5 of both Delta and Frontier and first major attack episodes in episode 6 of Delta and episode 7 of Frontier, with episode 6 of Frontier being a triangle episode.
Delta spends episode 7 on derpy slice of life/infiltration hijinks, and Frontier has its Sheryl's underwear episode in episode 8.
In episode 9, we get development for Messer in Delta and development for Michael in Frontier.
10 and 11, we get two episodes for Messer's death in Delta, and two episodes for advancing the triangle in Frontier.

I can see Kawamori really wanted to drop the triangle.

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>>142866019

Episode 11 is forgettable... not Messer, just the crappy episode of his funeral.

>>142875636
Well, damn. Thanks!

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>>142877414
Good then, the triangle is overused and stupid. I want to see more 1v1 vf duel and Mikumo being shinpi.

>>142877289
POWER TO THE DREAM

I am Sheryl fag. I hate Ranka with passion but I really like Frayja. Until now, Mirage is very forgettable. Not sure if this will change or not.

>>142877414
>I can see Kawamori really wanted to drop the triangle.
Well he can't really do anything about it since sponsors want it there and is selling point of the franchise.

>>142877699
Oh please. That's like saying the idols and VFs are overused as well. The love triangle has been a staple of Macross and one of the elements that gives it an identity from all of the mecha anime out there.

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>>142877699
Yeah, same here. I would honestly love having the main three characters being Hayate, Freyja and Mikumo.

Hayate and Freyja are love interests, and going at the same pace they are now. No love triangle, and just more of Shinpi being shinpi.

Then Mirage can take a backseat and just honestly go at the same rate she is going now. Just take her out of the triangle, and out the main character slot. People who aren't on 4chan literally think Mikumo is the 4th main character.

Anyone else notice a lot of Chuck death flags in this last episode?

>>142877950
Like what?

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>>142876130
cause they let this air too. albeit an ova

>>142877994
i dunno. i could be graspin at straws, but all his talk about Ragnan death mythology the banana sake and the fact hes getting more screentime.

i dunno. someone has to die. And it aint gonna be a walkure member for a while

>>142878037
> someone has to die
Someone did die.

>>142878037
Messer just died anon. They're not going to kill off another pilot this soon.

>>142877699
>complaining about love triangle
>posting love triangle meme chart

>>142878103
I mean someone else. you dont just kill one main character in macross.

for sure we lose at least one integral player each series. Faulker, Gigli and Micheal. Now Messer. but ancillary characters die off plenty too.

>>142864423
This scene made me cringe and triggered at the same time.

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>Bogue gets BTFO even on his own side

Fantastic.

>>142877907
Should have made Hayate officially 16 or 15 like Bogue. He doesn't look a year younger than Mirage.

>>142878143
>Faulker
Literally who?

>Gigil
He's an antagonist anon. The one that died from the protagonists in 7 was Kinryu.

Usually you don't have more than one major character from the protagonist's side in a TV series who dies. Only the original had 2 which was Fokker and Kakizaki.

>>142878334
At least he BTFO Mirage last episode.

>>142878460
>Kakizaki
>major
He was a literally who

>>142867319
Lady M = Minmay? Perhaps someone from Frontier, but I only remember Michael (male and dead).

>>142878616
Minmay and the rest of the ship are missing in space, remember?

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>>142878616
Lady Maaya.

I'm not sure if the fans are ready to see a 35 to 36 year old Mylene who is still single and hoarding cats.
It will be a new character.

>>142878802
It makes sense for Mylene to fund a PMC that fights and uses music to battle. She knows the value of both first hand.

Plus she has all that sick Fire Bomber money.

>>142878947
Highly unlikely it will be any of the previous Macross characters. There's really no point of introducing them at this point of the show as it will just confuse new viewers. Also Mylene isn't that wealthy or has enough connections to fund a galaxy spanning PMC like Xaos.

>>142874950
Keith uses a Sv-262Hs while the rest use Sv-262Ba. It's probably just a commander unit.

I miss Messer

>episode 1
>sneak attack, resulting in death at defense garrison at al shahal
>causing a VAR outbreak, resulting in possible civilian causalties and destruction
>actively trying to murder walkure who're attempting to contain the VAR

>episode 4
>trying again to kill walkure, giving no shits about potential 1000's of civilian victims
>only now 'declare war'
>speech mentions unfavorable trade as reason for hostility

>episode 5
>we get it explained that a not unsignificant portion of past VAR outbreaks can be blamed on windermere

>episode 6
>we get teased about the hole

>episode 7
>windermerean liberation = mind control their militairy and make little catgirls cry
>hole is explained to us, but we immediately get two accounts of it, casting doubts on either one
>Windermere responsible for facilitating spread of VAR, meaning even outbreaks they didn't directly cause, have in some cases in part still been indirectly caused by them

>episode 8
>display unreasonable bloodlust towards captives

Okay, I'm not one of the GAS WINDNIGGER fucktards, but I have a real hard time sympathising with their cause.

>>142879407
t. kanakana

>>142879864
My heart hurt.

I just want Messer back.

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I missed their fun interaction. After they told that Freyja will be genki less make me wonder if I will never see them interact like a close friend again.

>>142880367
The acceleration of the plot is what kinda don't allow them to have easy going fun times.

>>142875262
Figure of speech.

Freya is young genki girl done right. Ranka was young woman done realistically.
Mirage is fluffy ball of personal issues.

>>142880545
>Ranka was young woman done realistically.
that was Minmay
Ranka is just a shit

>>142880562
Her passionate is kinda annoying. But I love when she pairing with Brera though.

>>142878489
She would die if he didn't go for Walkure.

>>142880545
Freyja is miracle of universe.

>>142877414
>Freyerfag in full damage control

>>142880901
The fuck anon? He just said that Kawamori want to drop love triangle, if this is Freyjafags damage control then it's mean that they put Mirage in just to fill the love triangle part?

>>142880367
Don't worry. Mirage will take her place.

>>142880974
Nah. She can't even laugh "uhihihihi" like Freyja can.

>>142881013
Silly laughs are for losers, Freyja can keep it

>>142881031
>try to put shipping wars fuel this much

>>142877649
yep, also ep 10 was too good

>>142881093
though ep 11 was necessary after 10, it coul dhave been done better maybe

>>142877649
>>142881093
Clearly a budget saving episode

>>142877649
How the fuck did they survived from that situation.

>>142881134
Buy the BDs

>>142881119
It's also from the same writer who did episode 7.

>>142880545

Every macross girl is multi-faceted and really well done. Kawamori is great at writing female characters, but I don't think he understands men very well.

>>142881134
Heinz's song was disrupted stopping the Var. Most Aerial Knights' Drakens got rekt and Keith's got damaged as well. Most likely they had to retreat since Delta Platoon's reinforcement are no longer controlled by Var and outnumber them.

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Walkure album when!?!?
I'm sick of hearing people talking/pew pew pew over the song.

>>142881326
less than month now. Not much less than a month though

>>142881326
Next month. I'm starting to tried of splash sound in AXIA.

>>142881326
8th July. Pray that it gets leaked one week earlier like it has just happened with the OST.

So, who won?

>>142881455
We did

>>142881134
>Song disrupted
>A number of knights were fucked up
>Keith's Draken reduced to scrap

Messer literally gave it his all ;_;

>>142881455
Messer

dere Bogue when?

>>142875444
Frontier movies are pretty great, I agree. It's the series that I have the problems with

>>142881655
I thought the second was awful.

>>142880367
There's no more time for silliness when there's story to be had.

(I sort of miss it too though)

>>142881693
still buttmad?

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>>142877881
It's true that the love triangle is a selling point of a franchise. It's true that removing it would probably be seen as sacrilegious as removing music of transforming planes. And it's true that it's considered one of the pillars of Macross

At the same time, it's also true that Kawamori literally said he wanted to try and do a series without the love triangle and given from what we know about Delta when it was in it's conception stages when it was about a flight/singing school, it wasn't even supposed to have one originally. So it's really not that strange to think that it's quite possible to do a Macross story without one. And given the director's comments about how Delta would have a "light" love triangle, it's pretty clear how low priority it is.

Let's be honest here, when exactly is the love triangle the "good" part of the series? SDF's wasn't even supposed to be there at first, 7 was nonexistant and F's determined so much to the detriment of the show, even if it did garner attention.

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>>142881693
No it wasn't. It was pretty great.

>>142881758
If you think I'm a Rankashitter, think again. I'm not one of those faggots who'll claim the TV show ended in a draw.

The movie is just a mess and it feels mediocre. It handled the Vajra better I suppose, but that's about it.

>>142881770
>when exactly is the love triangle the "good" part of the series?

never trianglefags are delusional

>>142881770
part of the reason I like Delta more than Frontier, is that it does focus much less on it

>>142881770
I'd prefer it if instead of a love triangle the third selling point was just romance. Some would feature a heavier love story, like Frontier's, and others a lighter one, like 7. But withou triangle shenanigans that at times become annoying.

>>142881693
I thought it was really great

>>142881947
It's got some cool set pieces, but that doesn't really make me respect it as a movie.

Been listening to the OSt all morning it's really great.

[bagpipes intensifies]

>>142881963
Wat don't you like about it?

Personally I was surprised by how well they managed to actually end the story. I like how they changed Frontiers story to fit into two movies and I think that the movie story is better than the series in most ways (especially concidering the fact that they fitted in most of the original story points and still didn't muddy the waters).

It helps that it's gorgeous. Also best girl won in the end so there is that

>>142882009
Galaxy villains managed to be even more cartoony. Keikaku doori! No U! Counter-keikaku doori! Ahah! We were actually the real keikaku doori all along!

Movie tries to force us way too hard to pity Sheryl. Really? Pity? Oh noes, she gonna die from space aids, oh noes, she gonna die from execution. Oh noes, she died from being sucked out into space (even though it wasn't beliavable for second). And no I'm not a Rankafag, I honestly don't care for either of them particularly. If I had to pick I would go with Sheryl, but even so, that kind of writing makes me sick. It just so forced

Brera was utterly butchered and the scene where he dies it feels like it was written so 5 year olds could understand it. "I'm not your doll!"

Most songs both it and the last movie introduced (and I was fine with that one) were pretty damn forgettable. Thankfully they did use some of the good ones from show.

This is a minor quibble too, but I groaned loudly when I heard Isamu towards the end. It felt beneath it's worthyiness.

I did like the first movie though. Maybe they could have made it 3 and make the second less messy. There's good set pieces in it, like the jailbreak (would've been a good episode?), but I just can't bring myself to think it was a good movie.

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Thanks subtitles I needed to know what he meant by that

Thanks gg

>>142882227
anytime fampai

>>142882227
Blah blah blah, something about deaf people blah blah memes

>>142881965
GIRI GIRI AAAAAAI

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Did they forget to include a comment at the end of the episode or did subs for it not load for me for some reason?

>>142881801
Never trianglefags are Minmay/Ranka/Mao/Freyja shitters

Imagine supporting the loser girl all these years

>>142882514
Shitterfag please.

>>142882382
gerabara

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>hfw he said that he will stay
Hng I love this detail so much. Just look how happy she is.

>>142882853
they're pretty damn cute

I feel stupid because I still don't actually understand Windermere's motives for declaring war. Why expend resources on this "war?"

>>142882919
Imperial Japan

>>142882919
MUH KAZE
MUH PROTOCULCHA
MUH APPLES

>>142882919
SIEG WINDERMERE

>>142882919
Wounded pride. Real or perceived unfairness from humans. There are some pretty shit colonies out there, just look at what happened to Galaxy.

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Are they gay?

>>142883144
No.

>>142883144
JUST FRIENDS

>>142871387
Delta is painfully mediocre but that ranking is a sin.

Ranka a best

>>142882919
somethin something something

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Eww. What a mess.

>>142883144
T-they're just like sisters anon. We swear.

>>142882919
WINDERMERE PRIDE WORLDWIDE

Some stuff about treaties. Also, I think the 30 year mortality rate is causing hem to act incredibly daring than would be normal

>>142882919
They're only defending their culture from all the Wareras, Rorsi, and Kondas of the NUNs.

14. Embracing Driftage
15. Parting Resolution

Reading twitter I've seen lots of Japanese fans understand the 漂流 (driftage) part as two characters being stranded together or something like that.

>>142884839
we sunrise island episode now

>>142884839
Mirage and Hayate being shot down and forced to live like hobos in an island for an entire episode

>>142884839
>stranded together
Mirage and Hayate? Embracing?