Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1574

出来っこない

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>>142854275
>high kick with a skirt
>clear broken ankle

redheads, not even once

日本語なんて茶のこさいサイクローンだからね

Wouldn't you usually use 悪魔 for demon, not 鬼?

>>142854861
why do you ask?

>>142854638
How many of you don't use radical based mnemonics but just make shit up brute forcing into memory as you go? Also how far are you with kanji?

>>142854638
>>142854912
Didn't mean to quote

>>142854884
These guys >>142850973.

>>142854861
>悪魔
devil/demon
>鬼
ogre/goblin/ghost

>>142854912
Between two decks I so far have reached ~500 kanji. I don't think of actual mnemonics but u do look for hints that the radicals could give me. Kanji about feelings usually contain 心, speaking/language have 言, etc.

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What le fug is 言っとき meant to mean? I'm guessing it's a slurred, casual way of saying something else but I can't think what it would be.

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>>142854912
brute force just like english, even if they arent comparable at all
i thought i had a pretty good memory, and while its not bad, its not as great as i believed

>>142855060
鬼は鬼
オーガはオーガ
幽霊は幽霊
ゴブリンはゴブリン

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When will your jap skills be as good as this guy?

>>142855183
ははは
はははではねぇわ

>>142854912
I make shit up on the fly
e.g. from this thread-
悪魔 = asia heart - hemp oni

>>142855119
言っておく
言っときな　＝　言っておきなさい

>>142855183
astute anon, some things don't have literal translations
oni is not an english word.

自殺したい

>>142855241
Ah, thanks. I thought the きなー bit might be きなさい, but I couldn't figure out what と was.

>>142855265
綱を賄う

>>142855197
Years of work that I'm not sure I can accomplish.

>>142854296
Does it come with the text bubble?

>>142855568
I too started learning fully intending to give up later on when I get busy again

Can someone explain ほど in a simple manner to me?

I don't know how to think about it, there's like a million examples but they're like all different ways to use it, isn't there a simple way of thinking that fits it all?

For example, this sentence I found when I was reading now:
> あそこまでされて何もなかった事に出来るほど
> 大人じゃねえぞ！

In this example, it's doing practically... nothing there, right?
The meaning I got from it is something like "If I can pretend nothing happened after having all that done to me..."
"I/that wouldn't be an adult."

I tried to think about it as a "balance" before, like A <(ほど)> B, but I think that suits 方 only, I don't know how to think about ほど...

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>Which one is top and which one is bottom, I don't want to know
Am I getting this right? It doesn't really seem to "fit", not to mention Yotsuba replies to the line as though it was supposed to be offensive to her, but I can't find any alternate meanings for まい.

The scanlation says "Which is the top and which is the bottom? You'll never know.", but I have no idea where they're getting "You'll never know." from.

Does anyone know of a japanese translation of an english book (or english translation of a japanese book) where the japanese text has an audio recording? I thought it would be cool to read the english first, to understand what is going on, and then proceed to listening to the audio while reading the japanese text.

>>142855797
>あそこまでされて何もなかった事に出来るほど
>大人じゃねえぞ！

"I'm not enough of an adult to be able to pretend nothing happened after having all that done to me"

>>142856055
http://rtkwiki.koohii.com/wiki/Japanese_Audiobooks_with_Transcripts

Search for "parallel texts with audio" to find more along the same lines.

>>142856194
People like you are why I love 4can. Thanks dude.

>>142855969
http://www.imabi.net/l142thevolitionalii.htm

>>142856249
>imabi

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>>142855969
i like to think of 分かる as the process of figuring out, and まい to throw doubt on that process
so you'll probably never figure out

>>142856152
Ah, makes sense now... I still find hard to think about it though.

>>142856349
Don't think, feel.

>>142856446
Don't feel, know.

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>>142856446

>>142856446
Well, thinking (feeling) now, I think it's because it works... reversed?
The ほど in that example is applied to the following part, the adult one... but that's only when it's a negative sentence, right?

Using an example from another site:
> 彼奴ほど強い
"As strong as him"

In this case it's the preceding sentence because it's not a negative...

Even if I try "feel" this makes my feelings confused as fuck

>>142855969
Make sure to use the Yen Press scans rather than the fan scanlation.

ITHVNR is removing some duplicate kana like ここ turning into こ. Auto suppress repetition is off in the options and I'm using version ITHVNR3.5640.Pre4. Anyone know how to fix this?

>>142857549
restart ithvnr twice

>>142857622
Well I'll be damned. Thanks.

How can I make it so ITHVNR "saves" the correct line of a game? Having to reselect it everytime I start it up is kind of annoying, especially since I miss a line or two that way by having to advance text

ＤＪＴさん、愛してるよ。

>>142858054
https://youtu.be/9D5BDoMlUZs?t=40s

>>142857866
It worked correctly in ITH, but I can't get ITHVNR to save it. I just kept the VN open all the time so I didn't have to keep messing with it.

日本語を勉強しなければいいのに

>>142855702
はい

>>142857866
I just click the save-button once an it has always worked so far.

Try it with another game? Maybe your game is doing something weird where the addresses are different each time?

>barely remember new words from yesterday
>new words thrown at me today
>absolutely kills my accuracy rate

without new words its around 75% but with new words it can drop to 50%

is this normal or do i just suck

>>142858142
>>142857866

check the ITH_Profile.xml in your ITH folder. Is your game there? Maybe it's having problems writing to that folder because you put it to C:\Program Files\ or something

>しかるに今主人の彩色を見ると、黄でもなければ黒でもない、灰色でもなければ褐色でもない、さればとてこれらを交ぜた色でもない。
The speaker is complaining that the person drawing him got the colours wrong. Do the ○でもなければ○でもない imply that he used the second colour in place of the first one? Is it like saying that he is no more black than yellow and no more tan than grey?

>>142858228
Stop caring about stats for young cards.
Anki will show you the words you don't remember until you get them (or until they get blocked for being a leech).
Low retention rate just increases the amount of reviews you get. If the review load gets to high add less or no new cards, if you still want to learn more, add more cards.

>>142858420
It means that it's neither. This is a pretty common grammar structure. When ば is used like this it means "and" more than "if".
>http://www.jgram.org/pages/viewOne.php?tagE=mo-ba-mo

>>142858723
I guess it fits but neither yellow nor black seems kind of weird

>>142858228
How long have you been going? I started getting around 65%, 75% a week later, past 80% now. Heard that's normal. You could try learning a few radicals to help you, everyone learns their own way after all. Also what the other anon said

Djt meetup when?

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The handwriting in the bottom right panel is tripping me up. I get 十五才未満でこの人の死因がわかったものは but I have no idea what the next kanji/word is and google translate-san didn't help. Can anyone identify it?

>>142859196
Every day, on DJT

>>142856797
Fuck, I didn't know there was an official TL. Thanks for drawing my attention to it.

>>142859214
Idk but it's pissing me off that that 耳 + 云 kanji doesn't seem to exist

>>142859214
The first one is a 略字 for 職

>>142859584
Right? I think it must be a typo, but I can't figure out what the correct kanji is.

>>142859614
So the whole thing I think is 職員室

>>142859614
Oh. Thank you, anon-sama.

>>142859614
Probably 職員室 then

>>142859614
Fuck I always forget about those fucking things

I wish Japan would just ban handwriting

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I do not regret putting thousands of hours learning and practising Japanese
>pic related

>>142859614
>>142859671
If some characters are annoying enough to write that there are generally accepted simplified versions of them, why doesn't Japan's government just call the current version obsolete and say the simplified version is the correct, modern version?

Mainland China simplified a bunch of characters with no problems (as far as I know) and Japan simplified some post-WWII as well, so the precedent exists to do it.

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completely pulled this phrase out of my ass but does the following:

貸すのは大変なことだ

mean something along the lines of "lending things is an important matter"?

>>142859196
Never. Fuck off to /soc/ or /int/

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>>142859706
Source me, 先輩.

>>142859826
Define "generally accepted"

They aren't accepted enough to have unicode characters, and simplicity doesn't mean much when you're just typing anyway

>>142859921
>Define "generally accepted"
Recognisable to enough that they'd be included in a manga sans-furigana with the assumption that the vast majority of readers would understand what it represented.

Sorry for the retarded noob question but how do I play light VNs? I get an error when I try to start Dies Irae.

>>142859893
https://saucenao.com/search.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.4cdn.org%2Fa%2F1465931528170s.jpg

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>>142859706
Is that trap? Eww, plebeian taste.

I didn't put as much hours (I think) yet, it's been about two months and a little since I started, but being able to save stuff like this (and understand, although with the help of OCR for many still unknown kanjis) already made it totally worth.

My goal though is to not depend on translations anymore, whether anime, games or manga, so I still have a loooong way ahead...

>>142860109
What the heck? I thought saucenow only indexed pixiv?

>>142860030
you need to run it in japanese mode

>>142860124
>kanjis

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>>142859850
i'll assume i'm correct then. あ-ありがとう..

How good does my handwriting need to be? Any tips on writing kanji better or will I just get better over time?

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>ザ・サック

>>142860420
as good as you want it to be

follow stroke order

>>142859706
>>142860109

>fap to this just now

I knew mining 前立腺 would come in handy. Silly furigana, that isn't read イイトコ.

>>142860627
>as good as you want it to be
I want it to be readable
I look at the kanji displayed at my monitor and then look at the kanji I wrote trying to follow it, huge fucking difference

However my regular handwriting does suck bad as well so I might just be a bit perfectionist about things

>follow stroke order
One of the things RTK has taught me well. I'm pretty faithful to stroke orders.

>>142860420
Characters should be fairly square in proportion. The vertical length of the characters can vary a little, but the horizontal width should be as consistent as possible from one character to the next.

Be honest, if even the beginning of Tae Kims grammar stuff confuses the fuck out of me and I can't complete the practice exercises is there any hope? Am I supposed to re read each page like 30 times for it to sink in?

>>142860339
Well, what can I do? I learned most of what I know from anime/listening, besides the kanas I knew practically nothing.

>>142860815 (submitted too early by accident)
You might try turning your notebook on its side so that the lines on the page force you to keep your characters to a certain width rather than a certain height, though when doing this you should of course try to avoid making your characters too much longer than they are wide.

>>142860863
You're not supposed to sit on any lesson, just read the book quickly and then read compelling material daily.

Repeat for 5 years and you'll be ok.

>>142860728
well "readable" is honestly not that high of a bar
following stroke order should make the kanji identifiable even if it's scribbly or a little deformed

>>142860863
You shouldn't expect to memorise everything from the guide you're reading, but if you're not even understanding it then that's a problem.

Maybe Tae Kim's explanations just aren't working for you for whatever reason, so you might want to try another guide like Imabi and see if that makes more sense to you.

>>142860863
don't waste your time on the practice exercises

but yeah there is proportionally less hope corresponding to how stupid you are

>>142860863
If Tae Kim seems too fast when starting out, start with Genki (or any other textbook) until you get through the chapter on て form and then switch to Tae Kim.

>>142860863
>understand
>grammar
What's there to understand? Just read the example sentences and you'll see how it works.

Friendly reminder that one hour a day of studying will let you learn Japanese in a year. You spend more than an hour on /a/, why can't you spend an hour studying?

>>142861079
Why are you posting this in the learn Japanese thread, idiot?

>>142861079
>Friendly reminder that one hour a day of studying will let you learn Japanese in a year.
No

>>142860124
>plebeian taste.
>Kou and Hotmilk
You are the plebeian

>>142861079
i study for three times that amount every day, does that mean i'll be a japanese master by the end of month 4?

>>142861146
Si eres bueno para los lenguajes lo aprendes en menos de un año, amigo.

>>142861223
You gotta type in japanese if you wanna prove anything.

Japanese is about 50 times harder than spanish

>>142861223
Spanish probably, definitely not Japanese

>>142861223
daily spanish thread?

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>>142860985
>start with Genki

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>tfw you became pretty good at anki
>not at Japanese though

>>142861323
Well, it's not like we're trying to learn English. We're all native English speakers here, after all.

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>>142861223
get the fuck off my boardd pedro

>>142861323
And Tae Kim is full of awkward japanese written by a korean what's your point

>>142861389
Wasn't he Russian?

>>142861389
the japanese in that pic was pretty fucking awkward as well m8

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>>142861377
>boardd
ESL get out

>>142860985
>start with Genki

>>142861389
Tae Kim's guide isn't a professional publication. A simple spell-check would've caught those errors in Genki, which suggests that nobody even bothered to do that before publishing it.

>>142861507
>what is a typo

kys taconigger

>>142861525
Dude have you ever even read a book? Literally everything has errors that make it through editing.

>>142861455
Not really, at least no more than you would expect from a textbook for beginners.

hello djt, could you help me compose a message?

basically I want to ask a company about an artist's whereabouts and under which magazine he will keep publishing

so far I have:

このメッセージの目的は

my vocab is garbage and my grammar is shit so I don't know where to go from there

>>142861785
If that's all you have, write in english then.

>>142861785
>このメッセージの目的は
Sounds like a terrorist or something

>>142861838

oh come on, help a brother out

all I need it two lines

the purpose of this message is to ask about x's whereabouts

under which magazine will he keep publishing / releasing his works?

>>142861785
Start with お尋ねしたいことが あるのですが

>>142861982
No, I mean it.
Instead of getting a half-assed japanese sentence, you should just write in english. Most, if not all of these magazines (if they're not some backyard publisher) has someone able to understand, and you'll probably get your reply in english as well.

IF they reply, that is.

>>142862132

Is that really necessary? I want to keep the message as short and simple as possible. I don't want to sound rude, however, so I'll that sentence in mind. Thanks.

>>142862222

I bet they're more likely to reply if I ask in Japanese instead of filthy 外人 English.

Is there an Anki add-on for synchronizing field contents when switching a note type?

I have two note types I want to switch a lot between, but the fields don't match up. E.g.:
on note type 1 the field A is on position ä4,
on note type 2 the field A is on position #6.

If I switch from note type 1 to note type 2, the content of field A will stay in position #4 (because I have Frozen Fields on there), where a totally different field is now.
If I switch from note type 2 to note type 1, the content of field A will disappear, because note type 2 has less than 6 fields and the content was in position #6.

I know that Image Occlusion 2 Enhanced has two synchronized fields (Sources; Remarks), so it can work, but I want all my fields to be synchronized between note types.

>>142862864
Can't you just reorder the fields so they match up? Add empty fields if you have to.

>>142863180
>Can't you just reorder the fields so they match up?
I could, but I have a lot of note types, and I change them from time to time. I want a more permanent solution, because that sounds like a hassle.

>Add empty fields if you have to.
That'd look ugly and irritating.

>back in the groove with reading
motivation is a fickle beast indeed but it is nice when it does decide to show up

>>142863471
In the card browser, Edit-->Change note type allows you to select the mapping for the fields

If that's not good enough, you'll have to write a mod.
http://ankisrs.net/docs/addons.html#monkey-patching-and-method-wrapping

The relevant file is
https://github.com/dae/anki/blob/master/aqt/browser.py#L1536

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おはようおにいちゃん

にほんは梅雨の中休みかも、きょうはせいてんだよ

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What's does オフパコ translate to ? Google doesn't answer.

You can read it on the little box with the cross on pic.

>>142864565
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpa1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e15/11189441_632026406897339_416683250_n.jpg

>>142864725
He didn't even fuck him, gay

>>142864565
ソース？

>>142864725
Yeah that show up on google, doesn't explain much though.
If anything I'm more confused about what it could mean.

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it's painful clicking again on cards i should have memorized from way back. they were counting on me and i failed

>>142864890
I'd say it's most rage inducing than painful

Man I hate anki

>>142864781
Asanagi, pixiv id=355065

>>142864930
サンキュー

>>142864890
Anki is a glorified torture mechanism. The cards that you just can't memorize pile up and then it just turns into a half an hour of depression.

>>142864880
｢インターネット上で知り合って､実際に会ってセックスすること｣
｢オフ会｣などの｢オフ｣にセックスを意味する｢パコパコ｣がくっついただけです

Basically, slutness.
オフ off
パコパコ tap tap

>>142865032
>tap tap
shitty translation

>>142864890
I feel nothing.

>>142865097
Sorry, I'm not native, I don't know what sex sounds like in english or in my language for that matter ._.[/spoiler

Tfw I がんばりすぎ'd all day long and now I don't have enough energy to do anything

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>>142865167
time to 寝すぎ

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>>142865032
Ah good, thanks for the help.

>>142865032
I don't get it. How does adding "off" and "[sex noise]" together = sluttiness?

What is "off" even supposed to mean here? The word just seems like nonsense.

>>142865167
Time to 腹切すぎ

>>142865294
オフ会 = offline meeting

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>>142865167
you have enough energy to type though. 勉強するぞ

>>142865294
OFF会 = IRL meeting
OFFパコ = IRL fuck meeting

>>142865294
did you read the japanese text?
off as in offline, like オフ会

>>142865325
>>142865336
I read the Japanese sentence in >>142865032 as meaning
>"off" like "off" in the word "offline meeting"
rather than
>"off" = "offline meeting".

I realise my mistake now. オフ in オフ会 actually means "offline" not "off" since 会 only means "meeting".

I blame it on my tiredness. In fact, I'm off to bed as soon as I make this post.

So Anki shows me lots of 間 words today, and so I check the dictionary for it when...
>Ma (間) is a Japanese word which can be roughly translated as "gap", "space", "pause" or "the space between two structural parts." The spatial concept is experienced progressively through intervals of spatial designation. In Japanese, ma, the word for space, suggests interval. It is best described as a consciousness of place, not in the sense of an enclosed three-dimensional entity, but rather the simultaneous awareness of form and non-form deriving from an intensification of vision.
>Ma is not something that is created by compositional elements; it is the thing that takes place in the imagination of the human who experiences these elements. Therefore, ma can be defined as experiential place understood with emphasis on interval.

Do you know that feeling when you suspect you're getting a needlessly cryptic explanation for a mundane thing?

>>142865590
Whoever wrote this should stop reading the monogatari series

>>142865590
Feel like I'm reading Imabi

>>142865725
>Imabi.net
>>KYO? no......imabi!!!
>close website

>>142865590
This dude probably had a field day with 気.

間は英語に直訳できないとおもうから

熟語っぽくAnkiするといいんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

>あっというま
>すきま
>ひとま
>まおとこ
>まをあけず

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>>142865590

>>142865590
Oh god I hope this won't be on my test

>>142865923
What the fuck did I just read

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>恋バナとかしてみたりなんかしちゃったりして
Sometimes I just don't know whether I enjoy or despise this language.

>>142861323
Tae kim is full of unnatural english

>>142855119
I don't understand the japanese in this image
>Bring out your laundry,
>Your father.... ?

>>142866327
What does this mean?

Someone ended up trying to write a love story? Or someshit?

Without context I have no idea other than love story

>>142865786
>KYO? no......imabi!!!
i dont get it

>class dependent casual learners
Class+genki
>fat weaboo on /a/ who wants more grammar to read manga
Tae kim+anki vocab
>someone who really wants to learn japanese
Everything. Scour every book, take classes, buy books, go to japan, do fucking everything

>>142866779
>someone who likes throwing money out of the window
修復完了

>>142866779
I'm pretty sure the guide urges you to start reading as much as you can as soon as you learn basic grammar

>>142866779
u ain' nevah gon' lern no japoneez if'n u ain't bangin deez heah japanese bitches nikkah

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>>142866779
>fat weaboo on /a/
something tells me you aren't from here

>>142866779
I'm trying to think what must have happened to this anon to get him to come in here and write such a random meaningless post and I just can't get to the bottom of it

>>142866693
we like talked about love and stuff

>>142866693
It's just a ridiculously roundabout way of saying 恋バナとかしてみて.

恋バナして
恋バナとかして
恋バナとかしてみて
恋バナとかしてみたりして
恋バナとかしてみたりしちゃって
恋バナとかしてみたりしちゃったりして
恋バナとかしてみたりなんかしちゃったりして

Save for the first two, every step adds absolutely nothing to the sentence other than making it more roundabout than its previous form. Yay, Japanese.

>>142867159
I don't get where you got that past form from.

>>142867159
>>142867276
Ah fair enough, I was more just confused about what する did with 恋バナ, but it's pretty obvious now that I think about it

>>142866773
今日 = kyo
今 = ima
日 = hi
今日 = imabi

>>142865878
妹の真似してなんか得することあるの？

>>142867276
て form sort of implies something that's been finished before moving on to whatever comes after it, though it doesn't really have a tense
if it sort of trails off into nowhere then you get the "tense" from context

if it's in the context of an ditzy anime girl chatting to a friend, she's probably recounting something that happened earlier

honestly it's a bad idea to think this hard about it

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Latest ankidroid update messed up the formatting. Anyone know how to make it normal again?

>>142867828
Use a computer

>>142856242
One of the people who put a huge amount of that parallel texts together was an aging polyglot who passed on a few years ago. Her granddaughter took over looking after the stuff she posted online.
http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/
Relevant write up by the person:
http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/!%20L-R%20the%20most%20important%20passages.htm
A lot of people here like to make the claim that they are dedicated and spend hours a day reading and whatnot but they really have nothing on how this polyglot loved to live.

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How old is /djt/'s siblings?

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>>142867942
so basically if I watch enough anime with subtitles I will get the same effect

time to lock myself up with japanese cartoons for 5 years

i've already finished core2k and hanahira is still raping me with new vocab, what the fuck is this

>>142868103
you need to convince yourself that learning new words is fun and keep going with jisho at your side

>>142868084
中二妹

>>142868084
１２

Welp, my Japanese translation of The Silmarillion arrived. I hope I don't kill myself trying to finish it.

>>142868294
are you doing that to yourself just to learn a bunch of shitty tolkien vocab
sounds boring as hell, there's got to be a better way

>>142855251

>This is an oni.
>What's an oni?
>Oh wait, oni are creatures that are from a mythology other than Abrahamic or Greek! You must be very confused! I doubt that you can wrap your head around this! I must relate it to an Abrahamic concept that's different from the concept of oni!

Why can't you just say "oni"? And when they ask, "what's an oni", you say "it's a type of spirit from Shinto mythology"? Same with yokai. Why do you need to say "demon"? They're not fallen angels, so describing them as demons is incorrect. Why don't you just say "yokai"? Is that so hard?

>>142868294

Why?

If you want fantasy, Japan has produced plenty of it natively.

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Anki is fun. FUN.

I'm having FUN.

>>142868344
>there's got to be a better way
i wonder how many times i've said this while learning this language

>>142868344
I decided on it because now that I've read a few LNs I want to try reading a real book, and I've already read it like five times in English.

>>142864565
>Google doesn't answer.
Bullshit.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%E3%82%AA%E3%83%95%E3%83%91%E3%82%B3%E3%81%A8%E3%81%AF
Very first link went straight to the definition on ニコニコ大百科.

>>142868346
Yes, that is the point of both the person you are replying to and the person the person you replied to replied to

>>142868344
I don't know about the silmarillion but apparently the japanese translation of LoTR is supposed to be pretty good.

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>>142868371
just wait, it gets better

>>142868087
Weirdly enough, that works, can confirm.

Been watching anime for years only knowing the kanas, and a couple months ago I finally tried to read stuff and surprisingly managed to understand stuff with a dictionary and OCR for kanjis.

What's more cool of it is that sometimes I know what something means but I don't know WHY.

>>142868371
How many decks are you using right now?

>>142868087
dude, why 5 years?

you only need 30 min, lmao

にほんごをはなすましょう
何を読んでいますか？

I have 2 questions. What's the best way to learn the language? I have been studying for over 2 years but I'm still at the beginners level and I can't speak it well at all. Can you give me any tips or suggestions?
I bought doraemon and I hope to be able to read it. I'm half way through genki 2. Do you think I'll be able to read this at my level?

>>142869022
キミのクソカキコ

>>142869052
probably reddit.com/r/learnjapanese

>>142868087
>so basically if I watch enough anime with subtitles I will get the same effect
I suggest actually taking the time to read through the text.

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>>142869052
rosetta stone. or i can teach you personally and you'll become fluent in 2 months, max. $50.

>>142868832
5.

>>142869052
>What's the best way to learn the language?
Head first.

>>142869022
今は何も読んでないなぁ。物語シリーズは好きだけど愚の途中でやめたっけ？そろそろ戻って読むの続けようかな

最近はアンダーテイルにハマっていろんな実況動画を見たり日本語のファン翻訳パッチにある誤訳を見つけ次第直したりして楽しんでる。

>>142869307
and balls deep.

>>142869052
leave

>>142869022
アイドルのあかほん

>>142868760
I suggest you to try producing. Helps with understanding why something is said the way it is and such without having to really learn the grammar rules behind it. You will also know when you are making fucked up sentences because you just know it doesn't sound right, even if you don't know what exactly is wrong

This is all assuming you are close to where I was when I started

>>142869551
Stop trolling.

>>142869052
You can't learn Japanese

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don't you just hate when you're going to a party and there's nothing but obasans, djt?

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>>142869738
That's just the way I like them.

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あのんくんは

えんぴつとボールペンどっちがすき？

>>142869317
物語シリーズは読んでないけどアニメは結構面白かったな

実は俺も最近あんまり読んでない
ムラっと来た時に抜きゲーをぼちぼち進めてるくらいだ

この12月にN１とろうとともってるので新完全マスターの文法も一日に4課くらいやってる

>>142870202
What kind of retard writes in ball pen? What happens if you make a mistake and need to erase something?

what on earth is ひり出す

the sentence goes ”ｘをひり出すときは。。。”

I've also seen 礼 used severaltimes in sentences but can't quite understand what it's supposed to mean ie. そんな事よりお礼したいな。。。

>>142870599
You write a line through it and write it again.
Or you just don't make mistakes.

How magical is Japan once you get there

>>142870710
Are you hearing it correctly?
http://jisho.org/search/*%E3%82%8A%E5%87%BA%E3%81%99

>>142870710
Are you confident in your ability to read kana?

http://jisho.org/search/%E3%81%8A%E7%A4%BC

>>142870710
Probably ひる　＋　出す　used as an auxiliary verb.

Do you seriously not know what お礼する means?

>>142870202
鉛筆のほうが好き。細かな線で書いて出来るし。

>>142870759
>>142870765
偉大な知能の持ち主は頭の働きが似ている

what's up losers?
two years ago i first came to this thread and started learning japanese
now i have 4 semesters of college-level japanese under my belt and a japanese gf
i'm gonna make it

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>>142870759

image related

>>142870765

I can read it, I just don't know what it's supposed to be saying. I wish I had those kind of manners? I don't know that's what I'm asking

>>142870818
>書いて出来る

できない

>>142870202
どちらでもない。　万年筆のほうが好き

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVxbPeERtLQ

>>142870826
辞書を引くくらいで偉大な知能呼ばわりとかされたら困りますけど・・・

>>142870865
In that case
http://jisho.org/search/%E3%81%B2%E3%82%8B%20%23verb
This would be easier if you didn't chop tiny bits out of whatever source you have.

>>142870865
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/188564/meaning/m0u/
If you want more help than that you gotta post more than that dude

>I just don't know what it's supposed to be saying. I wish I had those kind of manners?

look at the first fucking definition

>>142870870
楽しいだよ、手書きの練習。

>>142870939
文法の間違いを笑われてることに気づいて＾＾
楽しいだね（←駄目だこいつ）

>>142870918
>呼ばわり
偉大な知能を持つってのはそんなにいやな事か？
それで頭いいとか思われて困るってお前頭おかしいんじゃない？
っていうか頭がおかしいと思われて喜ぶM性質なのか？

>>142870925

ok, I wish I had that kind of gratitude?

thoughts on this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/4o4exw/kickstart_learning_japanese_with_visual_novels/

>>142871152
Here's my thoughs

Fuck off to reddit and don't come back

>>142870988
私の文を直してください。

>>142871178
no

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>>142871152

Anyone wants to be friends with me?

>>142871178
>>142871217
I swear to god if someone posted the cure for cancer of reddit you guys would refuse to take it out of spite.

>>142871152
the biggest advantage of Core2k is the voicing and sentences

What would be more useful is stuff to target specific VNs/manga/light novels that start at the level Core2k leaves off.

>>142870997
常識なことをして褒められて謙遜な言葉で返そうとしたら頭おかしいと呼ばれた件

>>142871226
b
Took me a while

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>>142870818
とんぼえんぴつ？それともみつびしえんぴつ？

>>142870909
ふでぺんもいいよ

>>142871339
ｃだとおもうよ

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>>142871261
+1

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>>142871339

>>142871314
「呼ばわり」は普通いやなことで使うんだよ
「偉大な頭の持ち主呼ばわり」とか行ったら
まるで偉大な頭を持ってはいけないようないいかたになるから
謙遜でもなんでもないただの頭のおかしい発言になってるよ

あとそんなネラーみたいなしゃべりかたやめろマジキモい

>>142871226
I hate the -まい, it always messes me up.
So what does this actually say? "You didn't start start learning Japanese yesterday" or "You started learning Japanese yesterday, isn't it?" Where is the negation?

>>142871675
Xでもあるまいし = "It's not like X, so"

>>142871617
>行ったら
言ったら*
>頭のおかしい発言
頭のおかしいヤツの発言

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>>142871381
シャープペンシル

>>142871617
外人のちょっとした日本語の間違った使い方にそんなムキムキになって頭おかしいとか言っちゃうあなたのほうがキモいです。

>>142871675
まい is the negation.
あるまい = ないでしょう

>>142871761
>ムキムキ
w

俺は全然平気よ？
変な日本語を指定しなから茶化しただけだよ
お前こそそんくらいで傷ついて大丈夫か？

>>142871933
じゃあこっちも言葉足りずだった。日本語がそんなにうまいわけじゃないし当然のことだが。偉大な知能はやっぱ持っていない。

とりあえず謙遜のつもりだったことを改めて言っとく、そしてご丁寧（？）な訂正に感謝する

>>142866657
Anyone?
>おとうさんにいれるよういっときな
Stick it in your father?

>>142872067
Go ask your father if (subject, probably you or him) can put it in.
な is short for なさい in case you didn't know.

(足らずか・・・）

>>142872067
The に is connected to 言う, not 入れる
Tell your dad to bring the laundry in.

>>142871933
指定->指摘
fug

>>142872067
お父さんに goes with 言って not with
お父さんに（入れるように）言っておきなさい
＝
お父さんに（洗濯物を入れてと）言っておきなさい

>>142871933
>>142872209
>しなから
やーい低能低能
なんちって

>>142866657
>>142872067
Also for the record 洗濯物出てるよ doesn't mean "bring out the laundry," it means "the laundry is out."

>>142872209
>>142872131
>>142872172
thanks.

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人生は映画の様な物である
時おり腰を掛けざるを得ない

>>142872522
あの子達に腰を掛けてえな

少し登ったところに運よく
車をとめて登山口へ

I dont get how he's using ところ here. Is he saying "After driving a while, luckily we parked the car and headed to the entrance"

>>142872765
Yes. ところ can be used in exactly that more abstract sense. It's in Tae Kim.

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>>142872705
女の子を傷つけることはよくないよ

>>142868346
>abrahamic
Check out this guy.

what is fastest way to learn japanese if i only want to read manga
i don't care for anything else

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貴様

>>142873029
この子は何を考えているの？

>>142873327
See the guide.

Don't practice handwriting. That's the only shortcut you can take.

>>142873327
spam anki flash cards every day and shit post with your fellow なかま

post dank memes

anon core 5k

>>142873610
compelling content

tfw shit finally started happening in my VN and i read for hours without even realizing it

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>learn かみそり (razor)
>"hey, that makes sense! 髪 plus 剃, cool!"
>looks at dictionary
>剃刀
>the supposedly "shaving" kanji becomes the hair part of the word
Fuck nips, man.

>>142874378
>expecting kanji to make sense

>>142874378
You'll love 為人

>>142873610
i have re(t)ention on my filter

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>>142874927
you don't even know
this is only the beginning

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>>142873610

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This one was pretty hard.

I got them all right but had to keep double checking myself, since there's a tricky nuance for the first couple.


The answers are
b.a.a.a.b

The explanation for the first couple tricky ones is

「～に～ない」は心理的事情、「～（よ）うにも～ない」は物理的事情を表すことが多い

>>142875019
But it's actually not a meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dxe-jXSRQU

In the coming weeks I'm going to start working on a new core deck based very loosely on anon core 5k. It's going to have pitch information, better definitions, and better ordering (i.e. single-kanji words will usually show up before most words that use them)

>>142875019
You're filtering way too many posts that would end up just being normal conversation in japanese but I'm impressed by your sakura filter

>>142875171
In other words, tell me what to do so that I don't waste my time making something that only I am going to use.

I already have the tools and data to do the pitch info, definitions, and ordering, so don't worry about that.

>>142875193
It actually catches nearly no posts and I do recursive filtering, so I only have to unhide a single post to figure out whether an entire series of posts is irrelevant.

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>>142874656
Yup, that settles it. Off to bed, enough bullshit for a day.

>>142869022
＞「にほんご」
Why not use 「日本語」？

>>142875742
you should be more worried about はなすましょう

best mangas for learning?

>>142875019
>filtering half of the thread
Might aswell go back to the red site that makes 4chan think my post is spam

>>142875842
It filters like five posts a thread senpai

私は食べていちごヨグルト。

あなたは何が食べてですか。

This is terribly wrong isn't it? The first sentence I felt confident, because it's only 2? grammar points. At same time though I think I got the は・が particle wrong. The sentence is about what I'm eating, not what I'm doing.

Second sentence is wrong, I just know it's wrong. It's multiple grammar points. It's asking what you are eating and in question form. The end is right, but the first part of the sentence the structure doesn't feel right. I remember from TK that you can't use the は particle after が, but は doesn't feel right. It reads more like: "You, what are you eating?" it sounds unnatural. Do I even need to specify "you" ("you" in this case is DJT, a group of people rather than 1 person)? One of the first TK lessons was you don't need to specify the subject if it is implied (his 元気 example).

Help

>>142875822
also that

>>142875921
Did you even read a single page of Tae Kim? I would hope not. Go back and read it.
I think you might actually not be able to learn Japanese.

>>142875842
>my shitposting isn't a toxic reddit tier meme, don't filter it!
Kill yourself.

>>142875921
私はいちごヨーグルトを食べた
お前らは何をたべた

>>142876043
I read up to the question marker section.

>>142876090
I completely forgot about を.

I'm just going to start over with Tae Kim.

>>142875921
>but は doesn't feel right. It reads more like: "You, what are you eating?" it sounds unnatural.
rest assured that there is no possible way you have any idea about what does and does not sound "natural" at your stage of learning

maybe go over the を particle and basic subject-object-verb structure again, and try to fix whatever the fuck you're doing with the て form there because it's not working to say the least

>>142875921
>食べてですか
What did he mean by this

>>142875742
Why not use にほんご it really doesn't matter

私は半年ぐらい勉強しません

When/why can た be attached at the end of て like 忘れてた?

>>142876752
shortened 忘れていた

What does Hして mean?
Context: Doujin manga.

I'm guessing H=Hentai? But I don't see how that's an action.

>>142876889
tried hovering over Ｈ with rikai?
it means sex

>>142876889
Do lewd things

>>142876954
>>142876960
thanks, i guess my initial guess was right...

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>>142876954
>>142876960
>H = ecchi
Woah why haven't I realized this

>>142877059
you haven't read enough illegal hentai

>>142877059
what about chinese then?

Why is Imabi so bad? DJG is more comprehensible than this shit.

>>142877059
It's okay it took me like 3 years to figure that out even though I knew the H=hentai connection the whole time

>>142877517
It's not bad it's just unintelligible because it's so verbose and literal.

Unfortunately, verbose and literal is something that you need once in a while, hence people recommending imabi solely as a backup when the main guides fail you.

>>142877542
Yeah I never even considered it since I've always interpreted H as full-blown porn while ecchi seemed less explicit.

>>142877542
Did you never read a voiced VN with the word H, or a manga with エッチ in furigana, in 3 years?

>>142877552
Why wouldn't I read an academic book if I needed verbose and literal?

>>142877683
Like what, Genki?
笑

>>142877666
I mean I knew the word エッチ obviously since it's even a board on 4chan

But it took until the 3 mark for me to read Muv Luv where I think in MLA it has "H" written but voiced as エッチ which is where I realized it.

I don't read H manga (or really any manga)

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>>142877698
www

>>142877745
>academic book

>>142877757
It's more of one than imabi

>>142877778
It's actually less.

>>142877757
>Seiichi Makino
>Emeritus Professor of Japanese and Linguistics since 1991. Currently researches Linguistic inquiry into human brain through analysis of non-creative metaphors and other cognitive linguistic analyses. He received his B.A. and M.A. in English Literature from Waseda University, B.A. and M.A. in Linguistics from University of Tokyo, and Ph.D. in Linguistics from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

>KYO? no......imabi!!!

>>142877795
Yeah, that's why it was published and edited by a newpaper.

>>142877817
As opposed to being published and edited by a random autist who studies japanese?

>>142877891
As opposed to being published and edited by a random PhD student who knows japanese linguistics.

>>142877795
>Seiichi Makino
>Emeritus Airline Professor of Baseball and Shot-put since 1991. Currently researches Choc Mint Cookie inquiry into human brain through analysis of non-cream metaphors and other cognitive low fat analyses. He received his B.A. and M.A. in Taking a Dump in the Dark from Waseda University, B.A. and M.A. in Sodomy from University of Tokyo, and Ph.D. in Bullying Children from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

>Fixed bug with 今日 reading

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>>142854275
Is there an anki guide? How do I make it look bigger and maybe a bit bolder?

so after i finish the dojg deck i'll be a grammar god right?

>>142878024
RTFM

>>142877909
lol

>>142877909
im afraid you still lose with this my friend :^)

why can't OP pic be relevant

jesus i swear all these newfag wannabe OPs

>As opposed to being published on the internet by a random pretentious faggot

>>142878039
I'm sorry?

>>142878084
let me google that for you

actually never mind you fucking do it

>>142878024

jesus anon what are you doing

>>142878072
Wellsaid fellow puke-eater *tips dewritos*