Re:Zero

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Who's best and why is it Ram?

When are you cucksters going to realize this show is trash?

>>142846891
I would like to commit a crime

>>142846923
how could you possibly dislike a show with onis this tops in it

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>>142846891

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some nice anon translated the AU Rem chapter
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_oxWJ1yWNv4S2ZDOWs2NHo1bUE/view?pref=2&pli=1


also arc 2 chapter 16 is out
http://otscans.com/foolslide/read/rezero_kara_hajimeru_isekai_seikatsu__dainishou__yashiki_no_shuukan_hen/en/0/16/page/1

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Who's your favorite candidate?

>>142847549
>Lem
>Lam
Dropped

>>142847612
felt 100%

>>142847549
WN:
http://ncode.syosetu.com/n2267be/

Spoiler pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/GbgUPSKZ

Reminder that the pastebin is a very short summary of the arcs so far.

new Q&A
http://pastebin.com/8QTMKVDx

Q&A (not translated)
http://pastebin.com/t5RnzWtG

might as well post this because why the fuck not

catch up brothers

Can someone post the manga chapters? Someone linked felt returning and being a candidate

Chapters before that would be nice.

>>142846831
I'm going to need a webm of that pan up that shows her glorious breasts that are larger than rams

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Stop being such a crybaby. Emilia has had worse experiences I assume.

>>142847612
Candidates for what?

>>142847612
Who's the red qt

>>142848122
Subaru's heart

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>>142847612
Emilia of course.
And why are they all women?

>>142847549
That entire AU chapter was so sickeningly sweet. Can't wait for more.

Only thing I want to know: is this a canon loop? Like, is this something he's supposed to remember in the proper story?

>>142848315
Nope, completely separate.

>>142846923
why u mad tho

>>142847612
Anastasia.

>>142848339
Well, that's a good thing, at least there's a happy ending without the lingering fact that Subaru will eventually die and loop back again, and have to shoulder the fact that his happy life and children are gone.

>>142846923
anon are you okay? you speak like a retard, i am worried.

>>142847612
I like the middle one

That's a cute hat

>>142848398
At worst, he'll probably have random flashbacks of it. Things that he never remembered doing, but have memories of nonetheless.

When will I see more Elsa? I have a thing for crazy girls.

>>142847612
I want Felt to be felt up by me

>>142848485
It's the arc 4 I think

buy those bd's

>>142847781
use IRC fagtron

>>142847549
I'm pretty surprised more anons are happy about this than mad seeing as it's just the author memeing us out with what could have been but will never be.

>>142848739
Has fatalpulse caught onto these 2 yet?

>>142848642
It's the only happy thing we're getting for a long time with the series from now on. I'm content with having an (still ongoing, right?) AU where Subaru and Rem run off and get married and have kids and are almost sickeningly in love.

>>142848764
pls no

>>142847549
Have Rigel & Spica been given illustrations yet?

>>142849513
nope

Hey anons, I made a more detailed summary for arc 3 since the other one was bad, and there was a lot of shitposting in the other thread about what does / doesn't happen. hopefully this clears some stuff up.

http://pastebin.com/nqaFFQCk

I might make one for arcs 4 and 5 over the next few days if people are interested. will probably take some time though.

>>142848764
A man can dream

>>142850138
Nice one anon thanks a lot

>>142850126
Shame. Though it does just sound like Rigel is just a blue haired 7/8-year old Subaru.

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How much in love is she?

>>142850138
>http://pastebin.com/nqaFFQCk
except you got proven wrong
>>142842937
>>142840438
>>142840470
>>142840566

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it will all end

>>142851020
MODS

>>142851020
desu i really like this pic

Reminder that those edgy spoilers are fake.

>>142847612
I want to become Anastasia's manservant!

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So guys.

After everything that has happened so far What kind of Catharsis do you want. What do you think will help ease all this once its all over.

I think we're going to see Emilia peer into the world memory, And as a result see the near infinite number of times Subaru is looped. We end up to a similar scene of her being in the mansion with Subaru in his happy go lucky facade. She probably is visibly shaking before finally embracing him in a mess of apologies which Subaru gives a concerned attempt to cheer her up. Finally Emilia says something to the tune of "It really has been hard all these times for you.." at which point Subaru probably just goes limp and into a mess of tears.

And I doubt that would be the last time he would die either.

>>142851676
Emilia a shit.

>>142851469
No they aren't, I just spent hours the other day with my slow ass reading and shitty Japanese stumbling through those chapters.

>>142846891
Ram pleases clown for mana.

>>142851676
>Implying that there is going to be catharsis
>Implying that there isn't going to be a beautiful tragic ending with Subaru/Satella trapped forever in some kind of eternal struggle

someone has the webm of rem crying while being super happy? the one that made /a/ get a heartboner.

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>>142851676
We don't want a catharsis. We want the story to end with a HUGE fuck up as everything goes down in flames and Subaru gets even more fucked than he already was.

>>142852435
Speak for yourself cock monger.

>>142852416
Go to the archive and search in previous threads.

>>142852521
>he's not watching for the suffering
If the story wants to go all out, it might as well do so until the very end.

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I couldn't help myself waiting for next week and read the arc 3 spoilers.

What the fuck.

We are in for a hell of a ride.

Will this get to akame ga kill levels of edgy with the suffering or will it just pull your fuck with your feelings please no spoilers.

>>142852758
From what I can tell it gets pretty edgy but also fucks with your feelings big time.

>>142852672

Its only just begun

"Please don't forget there are people who will be sad if you die"

"----I"

He can't say her name.

"And someday. Surely, you will come to kill me"

He sees her silver hair trembling and her purple eyes becoming tearful.

"I'll definitely----"

He grips his fist

"----save you"

What did Satella mean by this?

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Post Subaru's face when Emilia saysWho is Rem?

Why does Beatrice call Puck "Nee-chan"? Doesn't that mean 'sister'? Puck is a boy.

>>142854017
Isn't puck genderless?

>>142854017
>Bubby
The CR translations for this show are terrible
also
>Sissy

>>142854092
Only in the same way that Beatrice is genderless. They're both spirits so they probably can't reproduce at all. The wiki gives Pack's gender as male.
>>142854209
Yeah they're atrocious.

>>142854244
Which is strange because usually their translations are solid, serviceable at best.
It's like they deliberately tried to make these subs total shit. The only worse ones I can think of right now are Haikyuu.

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ARC 3 HYPE

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>>142854244
But then again the wiki also uses the romanisation "Pack" which is wrong.

Either way both are cuuuuute!

Why is this show and it's fanbase so fucking cancer?

This show is so flawed, yet all these faggots think that this is the best time travel story of all time.

>Subaru is uber strong for plot convenience to stab monsters and break arms in 1 hit
>Maids are still generic af even with their demon twist and stupid complexs that don't make sense that took 11 episodes to do
>Emilia is just waifu bait
>Story has no tension due to being able to reset everything
>Takes 11 episodes to do something
>The Meta commentary doesn't mean shit because it's hamfisted down my throat and the things they say they wouldn't, they do anyway.
>Half of the story is just interactions that mean nothing because the dialogue is bad and the connections aren't established well

I swear if this fucking story where not in a fantasy/game world and everyone had bad character designs no one would fucking watch it.

Explain the appeal.

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>>142854209
>Barusu
>not Balls

I love how for a "professional premium service" CR are pretty shit.
I used a free month promo and liked their layout but the video player sucked and I don't think they let you download it.

How many arcs are there, and how long is the third one compared to the first one?

>>142854017
Hear it correctly, Beatrice calls him "Nii-chan"

>>142854391
You already have a thread for this, why the fuck are you trying to rile even more people up?

>>142854391
Tell me a show that his fanbase isnt a cancer

Why are these maids so perfect?

No seriously, have not watched this anime yet, only I see their hentai a lot and I want to turn them in to mothers.

Waiting for the season to end so I can marathon. So tell me.

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>>142854391
>Subaru is uber strong for plot convenience to stab monsters and break arms in 1 hit
He worked out at the gym regularly. He wasn't a NEET because he was weak or stupid, it was due to some event that caused him to voluntarily become one.
>Maids are still generic AF
They're pretty cool, they went from being side characters to developed distinct people with different roles.
>Emilia is just waifu bait
She's meant to look that way but ceases to be waifu bait gradually as she manipulates and insults Subaru.
>Story has no tension due to being able to reset everything
It has tension in that the characters we like can be tortured horribly and we don't want to see that happen. Also it's interesting to see if Subaru will make it through in any given loop and if so, how
>Takes 11 episodes to do something
To do what? It's nearing the end of its second arc, but they're only been in the mansion for 7 episodes at most, with interspersed journeys and reconaissance by Subaru.
>The meta commentary doesn't mean shit
That's because Subaru is wrong
>Half of the story is just interactions, dialogue & bonds bad, etc
I disagree, they're all really good imho.
>>142854480
Thanks, I don't know Japanese well.

>>142854518
Because the maids are literal wife and mother material.

>>142854508
The world is going to burn.

>>142854391
>Story has no tension due to being able to reset everything

KEK

>>142854440
I think there are 6 so far and arc 3 is longer than the first two put together, it's the rest of the season.

>>142854411
Defending CR on this one, because Barusu actually makes sense. Ram is just taking Subaru's name and moving the 'Su' to the end, which annoys him. Romanizing it as Balls is stupid, because by that logic Subaru's name should be 'Suball'.

>>142854715
I thought it was cute.

>>142854440
>>142854686
Further to this, have some word counts

First arc
>149,000 words

Second arc
>432,675 words

Third arc
>1,073,963 words

Fourth arc
>1,700,000 words

Fifth arc
>1,200,000 words

>>142850487

Barely, if at all. I don't know any spoiler details so I don't know if she actually loves him by the point the LN has reached, but right now it's pretty clear that at the very most she's intrigued by him. She just worries about him because he constantly gets himself almost (or actually) killed and she's that kind of person.

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>>142854391
The fanbase for this series isn't even cancer. Its the contrarians of the series that are the cancer due to the sheer amount of shitposting committed to bashing the series with no substance behind said bashing.

>>142854838
So the pacing becomes completely FUBAR?

>>142854838
Jesus Christ.

Fourth sounds amazing.

>>142854894
I used to like thick books, because more story. Then I read Wheel of Time and I realized the true horror of word count. Word count hell is when the author assumes every reader has no concept at all of the world that has been built.

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>>142852416
The curtains blowing like that in the background make it look like she's wearing a bride's veil.

>>142854865
What the hell is up with all of the Re:Zero bashing threads lately?

Half of the fucking catalouge is filled with this shit

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>>142854997
Foreshadowing?
Or is it saying she's just best waifu for Roswaal?

>>142854997
We truly aren't deserving of such a girl. Oh what fate will have in store for our hearts.

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I'm infatuated with Priscilla-sama's udders.

>>142854997
Kinda funny that Subaru's contract with Rem was basically a wedding vow.

>>142855034
Some people are upset that it's popular and outselling everything else

Also guaranteed (you)s

>>142855078
Wrong thread?

>>142855057
Wow, she's hot.

Is anyone else kind of amazed at how great Subaru's VA is? Everyone's seiyuu is great, but Subaru's is absolutely fantastic and nails everything perfectly. You can really feel his despair and emotion.

>>142855034

http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/index_news.cgi

Some people are butthurt it's doing well.

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>>142855242
Hadn't thought about it, but he really is great.

>>142855040
DELETE THIS

>>142855242
Yup, his breakdown when he found out Rem was trying to kill him gave me chills.

>>142855242
Really? I though of him to be annoying and jarring at times. Though it probably was intentional.

>>142855306
Meidos need to win more often. Maybe the meido will finally prevail in this story.
At the end of course, considering what happens in the story.

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>>142855073
Now that I think about it, it pretty much was.

>>142855359
Even he said he finds Subaru annoying at times so it's intentional I guess

>>142848777
>are almost sickeningly in love.
That's basically a byproduct of the two of them being desperately clingy and afraid to lose the other. I guess that's just Subaru and Rem for you. It's like a beautiful dream they're terrified to wake up from.

>yfw when Subaru finally does "wake up".

>>142847612
the one which wants to cut my guts

>>142855359
Definitely intentional. One of Subaru's most interesting aspects is his feigned happiness in the wake of despair. Episode 8 showed it pretty obviously that Subaru's over the top and zany nature was to cover up his depression and paranoia. The seiyuu was perfect for those scenes as well.

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>>142854997
Yes, yes they do.

>>142855040
Look, a true Remfag can tell the two part even if you recolor them. They don't even have the same face. This just looks like some weird roleplay to me.

>>142855423
>Rem grew her hair longer because she still thinks that Subaru still had lingering feelings for Emilia
>She is still thinks of herself as a consolation prize
>Subaru is still terrified of losing Rem
>He is anxious about what will happen next due to his scent

Rem just makes me want to tear my heart out. Subaru is doing a damn fine job being her husband.

>>142855595
Ive decided to accept this as cannon already. No matter how the story ends.
An imitation becomes the real thing after so long.

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>>142855034
I swear its just one autist spamming this shit

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>>142855717
That last one, dear lord.

>>142855040
>didn't increase the breast size
try harder, buddy

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>>142855717

>>142855717
Why do Emiliafags even pretend that they can compete?

>>142848642
Maybe he is setting us up for an even happier ending. Right?

>>142855870
Brcause they know what happens in the story.

>>142846997
I would commit two crimes.

>>142855194
to bad she is a bitch

>>142855949
>Implying Remfags don't

I'll wait for what happens in arc 6.

>>142856013
Remfags have a lot more faith than me. I envy them.

Haven't read much on Arc 3 yet, but is there a reason that no one comes looking for Subaru and Rem in the AU, other than not wanting to ruin the happy?

>>142856141
We honestly don't know. When they talk about regrets and how they ran away together is so ambiguous that it could be the real ending in disguise. Or that can be just my inner Remfag speaking.

>>142856269
Can we be so sure about that though?

>>142856299
fuk i screwed up spoiler tags.. yea it happens in all the other loops

>>142846831
Do what Satella did. Use magic to bring your waifu to your world

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>>142854997
I swear this has to be foreshadowing for something. I've seen enough weddings to see the similarities of how Subaru held Rem with that of a groom lifting the bride's veil.

>>142855595
Well, you know that's what makes it all work. It's in character and makes it feel natural rather than forced, or at least that anything being forced is being forced in character.

The writer knows how to use contrast pretty well. The sweetness wouldn't stand out half as well without the insecurity.

>>142856261
It is a dead dream. No nip author is mad enough to do that.

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>>142856386

RE:Zero is for boys.

Berserk is for men.

>>142856398
Lets face it, our little sadist is definitely crazy enough to do that.

>>142856386
I mean, you already have the AU where they ARE married.

What are the chances we get OVAs of the AU?

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>>142856412
Fuck

>>142856426
>sadist
>giving you happiness

>>142856443
Likely. But it's in the MU it HAS to mean something.

>>142856464
I-I trust him when he says that this is a heartwarming series.

>>142856497
Well, it does have many heartwarming moments, like with the latest episode.
That's what makes the despair later even more effective. The author truly knows how to make everyone suffer.

>>142856386
I would be ok with an anime original marriage ending

>>142856417
>Implying they're not both awesome
>Implying they don't both contain a fairy named Puck

>>142856011
>not wanting to put her in her place with your cock

Shameful

>>142856417
I actually like Re:Zero because of the similarities between this series and Berserk. Even Subaru technically lost an arm.

>>142856791
Wait what? When? Is it permanent?

>>142856921
Yes. He gets a mechanical arm done later in the series

>>142847612
EMF

>>142856921
Around arc 5 Something involving Lust's "Dragon Blood". It's implied that that arm isn't his anymore.

>>142857073
You stop that.

>>142856538
Anime original end that leads into the AU?

>>142857224
Yes end with the marriage

>>142856538
I probably wouldn't, seeing as to how Rem & Subaru's development might be much more important in later arcs. Plus I really do want to see if he really is going to turn into a Dark Lord or not. I want more seasons.

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>>142857224
The AU doesn't make any sense. All the bad guys decided to stop pulling shit because Subaru and Rem ran away? Not even remotely possible in any timeline.

>>142857490
It really depends on how their plans work and what they need to have happen. For instance, if any of their plans are based on prophecies which Subaru was meant to fulfill in some fashion, then him fucking off will leave them clueless as to what they should be doing next.

>>142857490
>big clown cock.webm

If it was big, we'd be seeing it either slapping against his thighs or smacking Subaru in the his head if erect. Got to wait for the bluray, I guess.

>>142855470
Indeed, amazing seiyuu

>>142855412
>Even he said he finds Subaru annoying at times so it's intentional

Yeah, he said like that. So it's of course intentional.

>3 different re:zero threads
why are shitposters doing this?

>>142857673
It's called bashing on a series, half of the catalouge was filled with Re:Zero threads calling it shit before the mods deleted it. The autist who probably made all of them probably got banned too.

>>142855949
Indeed, and I love it. Way more than Rem's arc

>tfw the OP has been stuck in my head all day

I hope the new one is just as good.

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Subaru deserves happiness.
>>142857794
Same, amazing OP.

>>142857794
I hope it's better.

>>142857490
The fact that it shouldn't be possible means there should be more to it than what we're seeing.

>>142857794
Yeah I love it and the ED
can't wait to hear the new ones

>>142857832
That would be even more welcome

>>142857845
The fact that it isn't possible explains why it can only be a "what if" scenario.

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>>142857845
>post yfw bad guys start popping up in the AU and dragging them back into despair
Subaru is forced to rape his daughter and watch them cut off his son's dick and rape Rem with it

>>142857905
The authors fucked up but no that fucked up

>>142857929
Yeah he probably wont do anything bad in the AU
just gotta give us some sweet stuff to make everything else feel that much more bitter

>>142857905
Even this author has lines he won't cross.

>>142857490
Maybe Reinhardt killed them all one by one over the years.

>>142857899
I still wouldn't put it past the author to pull some shit, though.

>>142857905
That's not even sadistic though, that's just straight up edgy.

>>142857899
But it is possible. Other people have the power to stop the bad guys in the end and Subaru could have fucked up their plans by not doing what he was supposed to. So long as Roswaal also ended up dying, they should be reasonably safe since he's the only guy who knows Subaru is supposed to be special.

Bad guys are probably still out there, and there's always a possibility that their home will get fucked over, but no one would be specifically targeting them.
>>142858009
He doesn't even need to go that far. He just needs to fuck up their plans for whatever they're trying to accomplish at the moment.

>>142858085
I hope the AU evolves beyond what it is and the bad guys find them, so they have to fight to protect the happiness they made.

>>142857794
Did you know it loops perfectly? Try it, watch it on Youtube with looping enabled.

>>142858085
>other people have the power to stop the bad guys

And Subaru is the only one that has the power to put those people in place to stop the bad guys. Otherwise they're all fucking off somewhere else while the bad guys are wreaking havoc. If the good guys were capable of stopping the bad guys on their own then Subaru wouldn't need to assemble his forces to fight them every single time.

>>142858161

I hope the AU remains the AU and I want to see the main plot with the actual development between Subaru and Emilia, that is some intriguing stuff man, believe me. Rem is the third party to make the shit also more exciting but the main couple is Emilia/Satella or whatever she is with Subaru.

>>142858280

I mean, no need for the author to waste other time on "What if" scenarios

>>142858278
That just means the bad guys will do a lot more damage before they're stopped.

>>142858280

For example, it's damn intriguing the fact
their first kiss was a cold kiss like death, while their second kiss was hot like life. How is Satella/Witch of Envy implied in this? What Emilia feels exactly for Subaru? Why she kissed him the first time? There are so many questions related to Emilia, the real mistery is about her, and some people say the she's only waifu bait? Are they kidding?
You can like Rem as a a waifu better but don't say shit about Emilia/Satella/Witch of Envy plot that is what makes Re: Zero what it is: an intriguing mistery.

>>142858466
>can't even spell mystery right

>>142858280
I'd be fucking pissed if Emilia wins, in all honesty arc 4 did not convince me their relationship has gotten better at all. Arcs 5 and 6 even less so.

>>142858482

It's called a typo, nazi grammar. Plus English is not even my first language

>>142850138
The WN is different retard. Maybe not quite as edgy as the other post made it out to be, but there were legitimately 25 chapters worth of torture, among other things. The LN shortened things a by a lot.

Which would you be killed by?
A)Hakugei
B)Oousagi
C)Kurohebi

>>142858494

I like their relation is so complicated, unlike " Rem loves Subaru-kun, Rem wants to be with Subaru-kun for ever. End of story".
Damn it.

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>>142858564
Don't forget Rem wanted Subaru dead until he brainwashed her into loving him.

>>142858564

When a girl speaks about herself in third person you already know she is your perfect waifu material for otaku, but not that interesting as a character.

>>142858635

Indeed she was a bit more interesting before to become this hopeless maiden in love, ready also to be his second waifu. Come on.

>>142858635
Are you memeing or did you really miss the explanation as to why she wanted to kill him?

>>142858466
The plot with Emilia definitely seems like it'll be interesting, but I don't know much about how their actual relationship develops into the future. However, having a deeper relevance to the overall plot doesn't make her the superior love interest for Subaru. That really depends on what sort of story is being told here.

>>142858564
>Rem loves Subaru-kun, Rem wants to be with Subaru-kun for ever. End of story

Now you're just strawmanning. Rem and Subaru's relationship is definitely more complicated dynamic than Emilia's ever will be, even the AU chapters has that going for them, the fact that one chapter had more complexity than Emilia's entire arc says something.

>>142858675
Have you... Not been watching/reading this series freind? Are we even on the same show?

>>142858764
Even before the AU, they went through all kinds of hardship together.

>>142858745
>I don't know much about how their actual relationship develops into the future.

I can tell you
they already kissed twice

There's absolutely attraction also from her part, BUT nothing is obvious, because her character is too ambiguous, and I like it.

>However, having a deeper relevance to the overall plot doesn't make her the superior love interest for Subaru.

But it makes her more interesting in general. I don't know if Subaru and Emilia will be together, but I alrteady know their relation is way more complicated and "weird" than your stereotypical relation between Rem and Subaru, where the girl is simply madly in love with the guy, and that's all.

>>142858764

Pleeeease. And the AU is some kind of cheesy fanfic, to the extent I want to puke. Not my cup of tea.

>>142858883
You have to consider that once of those kisses was a kiss of death.

>>142858932
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with it? It had both anxiety, uncertainly and hardship packed into a neatly tied ribbon. Not to mention you have to take into consideration the hell they both went through in the MU.

>>142858940


Yeah, and this is DAMN intriguing. I'm not into shoujo manga-like love story bro

>>142858932
I like it because it gives Remfags fuel. If that thing didn't exist there would be less Rem posting and possibly less Remfags.

Without it I wouldn't get such a big kick out of veggie posting.

Who needs (you)s when you know how desperately Remfags want their fanfiction to be real.

>>142858990

Simply too much clichè also for a shojo manga published on Ribbon.

>>142858719
>ready also to be his second waifu
That's probably the low self-esteem talking.
>>142858635
Rem is a very emotionally volatile person.
>>142858883
I know about the kissing. Anyhow, I'm not so sure if I find Emilia herself to be interesting or just the shit she seems to be tied to. The more ambiguous relationship can certainly lead places, but isn't that more because it doesn't work as well?

>>142859031
If you know about the context it really wasn't at all intriguing.

>>142859082
Oh now you're just shitflinging.

>>142859200
>If you know about the context it really wasn't at all intriguing.

I know it and it's intriguing.

To me Emilia/Satella/Envy whatever she is, makes all this story great. Rem can be left out also for 3 arcs and the plot progressed as well.

>>142859150
>Rem is a very emotionally volatile person.

Rem is this kind of cute thing that is okay at best but it can be only a supporting character. I don't dislike her, but if she was the main heroine Re:Zero wouldn't be Re:Zero anymore. And indeed she isn't the main heroine for one reason.

>>142859335
>I know it and it's intriguing

You actually really don't. She kissed him because Subaru was dying. That's fucking it.

The fact you claim to know context when you don't baffles me.

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>>142858733
The explanation is obvious.

Subaru loves Rem because she held his hands once, even though he knows from previous lives that she was faking her feelings towards him. Rem loves Subaru because he dragged her into the forest and guilt-tripped her into feeling responsible for his well-being when he jumped in front of the dogs. Is their love contrived? Yes. Are they both retarded? Absolutely.

You can't meme this shit up.

>>142859451
>You actually really don't. She kissed him because Subaru was dying. That's fucking it.

I KNOW IT. So, even if he was dying]/spoiler] is normal do that? are you kidding me? Also with a friend or a woman?

>>142859455

This explaination is so poor. Basically they love each other only out of pity for each other and self inserting in each other. This is what I see here.

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>>142859455
Huh? No, definitely not.

Subaru didn't love Rem because she held his hands once where did you even come to that conclusion? Subaru didn't guilt trip her into anything, she guilt tripped herself plus you are really straw-manning the shit out of what happened.

>>142859513
And you complain about cliches? When there is a woman who gives a man a kiss before he dies? Is it normal to do that? Yeah, if the man who saved your life and seeks your romantic interest it's obviously normal.

>>142859567
Not that anon, but your explanation somehow managed to be even poorer.

>>142859619
That's an Emiliafag for you.

>>142859597
>And you complain about cliches? When there is a woman who gives a man a kiss before he dies? Is it normal to do that? Yeah, if the man who saved your life and seeks your romantic interest it's obviously normal.

But she doesn't think he loves her for real, my dear anon. So basically she didn't make that for him.

>>142856162
Why is Echidna so sex?

>>142859619

But it's their actual relation. They pity eavh other.

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>>142859455
Well i feel like it was more along the lines of that she did find him suspicious but she was developing a little towards him, the first time he was not targeted because nothing made the smell insufferable, and he died to the curse. The second time, being near death's door and strulling made his strench that much stronger she decided to let her suspicions of him take hold, the fact that he knew where certain things where, and some others facts of the mansion made her extra suspicious, which helped.

The third time was more believable since he stayed as a guest and hardly interacted with her, and instead talked to Ram, which made her sick because she remember what happened in the village they lived. She figured he stayed as a guest to spy around, and decided to be better safe than sorry, possibly even at the request of Roswaal since he was leaving and Ram was also around.

This line he got in good terms with then, and he promised to talk to her about the curse, so she felt she could trust him more and get answers, coming out and confessing about smelling like a witch made that more easy. Being selfless and protecting not only her, but showing genuine concern for the children, made her realize he was never a bad person, which is why she was willing to kill the dogs to save him, since she felt indebted to him.

Also, no, Subaru does NOT love her romantically after having his hand held once, his love is more along the lines of caring for then, because of all the times they interacted. He felt crushed that it was her who killed him due to suspicion, and felt it was all fake. Learning that they held his hand to comfort him however made him realize that she was no heartless, and that if he could change her mind about himself things would be different. They hardly knew him, and yet tried to give him comfort during his sleep.

>>142859665
>But she doesn't think he loves her for real, my dear anon.

Yes, and? That just makes it even more cliche

>So basically she didn't make that for him.

I don't see what you mean by this.

>>142859335
>>142859442
Well yeah, Rem isn't a person of importance in the greater world. The AU shows us what the story would be if Subaru prioritized her. He'd have been happy and in love, with several children, but his life would be fairly mundane. He wouldn't be driven to become some hero and he'd be more than content with what he had.

In short, the AU highlights why Rem couldn't be the main heroine while also showing that she's probably the more compatible love interest for Subaru. The Emilia route is what will lead him to suffering.
>>142859455
I don't think they love each other yet.

>arguing with the hardcore emiliafag who is still butthurt and is complaining about the remship since last threads

>>142858733
The jump from Rem wanting Subaru's head on a plate to her falling for him was kind of abrupt desu.

Subaru was really kind to the maids every time, yet the witch's scent was enough to make them resent Subaru to the point where they wanted to kill him. It's weird to see Rem do a complete 180 and suddenly stop caring about the scent altogether, even considering everything that happened. I guess that's love for ya.

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>hide a blatant troll post
>leave
>come back, refresh thread
>+50 posts
>3 showing

Come on guys.

>>142859840
Only Rem did, Ram was told by Roswaal to keep her sister in check since she seemed jumpy towards Subaru. Ram could have figured there was something wrong, but apparently she can't smell the stench due to the loss of her horn.

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>>142859800
>butthurt emiliafags

What's there to be butthurt about? Emilia won, she no longer has any competition. Feel free to fall in love with inanimate objects.

>>142859840
Have you watches the series and break-times? The development was not at all drastic, she went from hating him, to being unsure, to trusting him, to becoming a comrade at arms, to a crush. In what way was this development sudden?

>>142860029
It happened within 4 days.

>>142859840
Well, there are a few differences.in each timeline that led to Rem viewing him differently in each one, though she was suspicious of him from pretty early on.
>>142859895
>Ram was told by Roswaal to keep her sister in check since she seemed jumpy towards Subaru
This is probably part of what saved his ass in the final timeline. Being open about the witch scent also helped, as that makes it look less like he's hiding something. Rem never really hated Subaru in particular, she hates what she believed he was. That hate isn't going to stick around if she starts feeling she must have been mistaken.

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>>142859455
They haven't fallen in love for each other yet. Holy shit. She is going to be more or less the same Rem but more trusting and talkative towards Subaru. As of right now she just enjoys the comfort of his company and nothing else.

>>142860082
He saved Emilia and worked his arms raw helping around the mansion. That was a good reason for her to start liking him.

>>142860082
The same can be said with Emilia.

>>142860160
That would be a good reason to start liking him. But she killed him in that timeline. She only started liking him in the final timeline.

>>142860082
It was fast, but this time he made sure to adress what was bothering her, aka the smell, not only that, Emilia showed that she trusted him on the lap pillow scene, Subaru displayed selflessness by saving the kids, sacrificed himself to save Rem, and later did it again so she and Ram could escape.

I'm not sure about you, but developing a crush for someone like him isn't that far fetched, mind you she's not in love just yet, they'll interact some more before that's actually a thing.

>>142860222
What? This final timeline IS where he worked his ass off. Not that one.

>>142860206
Emilia is an inherently nice person and doesn't murder people.

>>142860160
I think Rem liked him in most timelines, but that was buried under her hatred of the Witch Cult assassin or spy she thought he must be.

>>142847660
Tastiest taste.

>>142860155
Pretty much. The love part doesn't come until they go through so much shit with just each other to lean on in the next arc.

>>142858883
The author has mentioned that Emilia is definitely one of more complicated characters in the story.

She's definitely fallen for Subaru, but she has acceptance issues that she only just getting past.

>>142858858
As did Subaru and Emilia. In fact they go through more so this not good point to raise.

>>142860264
>Emilia is an inherently nice person and doesn't murder people.

Oh my god how wrong you are.

>>142860306
>cryogenic freezing is murder

>>142859739
>Yes, and? That just makes it even more cliche

You don't even notice how your post doesn't make any sense

>I don't see what you mean by this.

Because you are missing completely the whole point

>>142860357
They're frozen forever so they might as well be.

>>142860377
Well then elaborate.

>>142859792
>Well yeah, Rem isn't a person of importance in the greater world. The AU shows us what the story would be if Subaru prioritized her. He'd have been happy and in love, with several children, but his life would be fairly mundane. He wouldn't be driven to become some hero and he'd be more than content with what he had.
>In short, the AU highlights why Rem couldn't be the main heroine while also showing that she's probably the more compatible love interest for Subaru. The Emilia route is what will lead him to suffering.

Oh, finally a nice post, bravo anon-kun
For this reason, I love Emilia route way more.

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What does winning the throne has to do with killing the dragon? The fact that the royal family apparently has ties with the dragon and Emilia could show him the way to where he's hidden?

>>142860387
Isn't Emilia's goal to find a way to get them unfrozen? Wasn't it an accident in the first place? Not really the same thing as cold blooded premeditated murder.

>>142860463
Wait who got frozen?

>>142860297
Not at all, even in arcs 5 and 6 most of the pain is carried on by the backs of Wilhelm, Julius, Gaaf, Crusch, Ferris, Subaru and Beatrice. Emilia didn't do jack shit.

>>142860297
Yeah agree. And yeah, the author said Emilia is his most difficult character.

>>142860485
everyone who's ever fought Emilia

>>142860427
>Cheering for the bad end

Yeah, I can see that. Even I want to see Dark Lord Subaru come into fruition.

>>142854974
Wheel of time was fun for me to read for the first three books and for the last three books, all the rest of the books felt like a slog.
The only reason I kept reading was because I really like Mat.
Too many unnecessary words can really suck the life out of a story.

>>142858764

The AU is SOL fluff with no sense conflict and something would be impossible to occur. I actually think does a deservice to Rem because it basically says she sacrificed her sister to go run off with some dude and throw away sense principal or self worth because she now only defined by love.

It just highlights desperation of Remfags. Thankfully the mainline story Rem wouldn't up and abandon everything.

>>142859792
It would also be incredibly boring for this author's standards prefer leads to struggle for they want and not take easy way out. That pretty much what Rem route represents.

If he was interested in kind of story then Rem would have been the main girl from the get go and Re:Zero wouldn't be what it is now.

>>142860554
Wouldn't that make it Puck's fault? I mean he's the one who regulates how much strenght he puts into the spells.

>>142847980
I confirm, she has.

>>142860155

Agree about this. And if I'm not wrong, the first time she confessed to him, he rejected her. After much more pain together, at the end he accepts her. It's not a nice way to reciprocate love...it's more like "yeah buddy, we suffered so much together, now I can't abandon you"

Ugly.

>>142860602
The experiences she has gotten if half-elf racism and the trials. Not to mention all of the damage she has done can be completely reversible, as they're all non-permanent.

>>142856141
No because everyone they knew is dead in it.

Yay.

>>142860586
Perfect post.

>>142860485
Apparently Emilia's hometown and all its people/elves.
Nothing to worry about if you're anime only

>>142860643
Subaru and Emilia's is even worse though. At least that one took time to develop from the very bottom of the pile. While Subaru's love for Emilia was just a love at first sight that basically was all about "Gotta protect Emilia".

>>142860586
>If he was interested in kind of story then Rem would have been the main girl from the get go
He's probably just mocking tropes.

>>142860874
>Subaru and Emilia's is even worse though.

No.
It's nice like it started as a strong teenage crush, even though later it becomes something different. And it's interesting like she isn't never able to take him seriously because of his manierism.
But this is only the surface of a complex and mysterious relationship

>>142858195
That is fucking genius.

>>142860523
Arc 5 is literally about everyone so WTF are talking about?

And more than half those character don't show up for arc 6, yet Emilia is with Subaru though every arc after arc 3. She also someone he can actually talk to instead being an inanimate object.

At this point he's spent far more time with then has Rem which just one arc.

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>mfw Emilia says Who is Rem?

>>142861099
And then begins the hero's fall to darkness.

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>>142859968
I'm starting to like this guy

How many dimensions as a villain do you think Betelgeuse has?

>>142861078

Indeed, Rem was there only for one arc and some people are making her more important than she is.
Emilia was and IS the main heroine with an active role in 5 arcs (except 3rd arc that is for creating the situation with Rem).
If you like Rem more okay, de gustibus, people. But don't overestimate her damn role since she's obviously a supporting character and the second (SECOND) possible love interest for the MC just for making the romance in the story more spicy. It's fucking stupid.

>>142847980
Definitely. Rem's past nothing compared to what happened Emilia.

That poor girl needs some serious hugs and maybe couple years of theory.

>>142861272
Beatrice seems more like the heroine in arc 4 than Emilia to me.

>>142860523
Do we even have spoilers about these arcs?

>>142861327

I mean Emilia is still there, unlike Rem that is missing in the plot for two years!

>>142847549
Anyone got the Ln's translated?

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>>142861099
Suffering.

>>142860874

It doesn't matter how it starts, it's how it grows. The kinds of things Subaru and Emilia go through pretty deepen their bonds and he comes to understand what kind of person she better.

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>>142861078
Arc 5 Wilhelm was just fucking beautiful.

>>142861327

If you Remfags think Rem is the main heroine and you like Re:Zero only for Rem, well you should drop the series after the 3rd arc since she becomes irrelevant. Sure, Subaru wants to save her, but she has not any role except to sleep.

>>142861359
How much time has passed as of arc 6?

>>142861412

This, but I also like how he was attracted to her since the beginning. It seems more natural to me.

>>142860586
>and something would be impossible to occur.
I disagree on that point. The Bishops and Witch Cult have been around for hundreds of years. There are ways for the situation to be resolved without Subaru, though maybe a lot more people would die in the process. To be honest, the AU had a bit more depth than I expected it to.

>That pretty much what Rem route represents.
In one sense. They would be running away from the main plot to live as background characters, rather than to be the heroes. I think that's what the AU shows. Though, wasn't it Rem who convinced Subaru to go back in the MU?

I'm not sure how much the author really cares about things like "main girl" in the long run. However, I'm not going to pretend that Rem is main girl either, like some people do, and I'm quite concerned with how she would even manage to fit in after being gone for so long.

>people are actually trying to argue that Emilia is a complex character
Are you fucking joking

>>142861222
I only managed to get to page 5 before quitting in disgust. I complement you on your fortitude.

>>142861421
> Me talking about Beatrice=talking about Rem
What?

>>142861439

I believe Rem went in coma two years ago, since I saw now Petra is 14. In arc 3 she was 12.

>>142861501
its just the one hypocrite emilifag who post the same bullshit every thread but didn't read the WN

>>142859693
Perflat and her color scheme are a helluva combo.

>>142861551

You are saying the author is hypocrite since he said she is his most complex character. And only the author knows true Emilia.

>>142861327

She becomes Subaru's partner, but otherwise I don't anything more heroine like about her than Emilia. Subaru just wins her over like he won Garfiel

>>142860874
The love between Subaru and Emilia obviously isn't developed at all. Subaru is just being Subaru and spouting memes because as a man he can't stop the act he once started when he first met Emilia before the suffering began. He totally wants to get into her panties, though. Emilia on the other hand hasn't shown any interest towards Subaru at all. She's just being nice to him while simultaneously thinking that he's a retard. She's just too kind to kick him out of her life at this point.

Note: This is an anime only observation. Please don't counter this with some arc 6 knownledge where things have progressed a great deal

>>142847734
Thank you, much appreciated.

Anyone translating the WN?

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>>142861351
Arc 5 is basically about all out war between the Witch Cult and Queen candidates.

Arc 6 is about the journey to Great Sage Tower or more appropriately known as Pleiades Tower with one of the main goals of fixing aftermath of Arc 5 and possibly curing Rem.

>>142860700
That doesn't change the fact that Emilia went through worse.

>>142861439
About a year or 2.

>>142861733
It doesn't progress any farther than Subaru being a sperg and Emilia being a generic nice girl. Nether of them actually love each other, Subaru just has an obsession and Emilia couldn't give two fucks about him (you'll see that in episode 13 of the anime)
Emilia is a bland boring bitch. Her true colors really shine in arc 3 (in the five minutes of screentime she has, that is)

>>142861781
Aren't all translations frigid because of Yen Press?

>>142861781
Look through the archives.

>>142861827
Oh boy, the constellation puzzles are pretty fun~. Can't believe it's gonna take a while to go past a few of those floors. I can't wait to see Batenkaitos get slammed for the little shit he is.

>>142861827
>Pleiades Tower
Subaru's tower? I wonder if this is going to be his base of operations in the future.

What does it look like?

>>142861500

>In one sense. They would be running away from the main plot to live as background characters, rather than to be the heroes. I think that's what the AU shows. Though, wasn't it Rem who convinced Subaru to go back in the MU?

That is one of reason why the AU doesn't make any sense. Even if Subaru abandoned everything Rem wouldn't. Because while she sympathetic to Subaru's situation she still has a life. She believes Subaru is stronger person than that, at least kind of Subaru she fell in love with.

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>>142846923
>cucksters

>>142861733
Since you said that I'll have you know there will be a romantic development between Subaru and Emilia.

>>142861872
I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>142861501
That comes from author himself anon and her past is certainly a enough of mess to believe it. Especially in regards in how it affects her character throughout the story.

>>142862129
That's why in think there's more to it than just a what if, because that doesn't seem like the author's way of doing things.

>>142846923
> cucksters
What is this hipster bullshit? Has shitposting begun to degrade further?

>>142862260
Well maybe he should actually have her 'complexity' showcased within the story then rather than being a boring as shit perfect and kind trophy waifu

>>142861872
>Remfags everyone, can't stand the competition so they need to bash another character and make up shit.

>>142862326

You don't know the story, it's just your problem

>>142862326
You have already seen facets of it (, and gonna be revealed as plot progress. Unlike Rem, Emilia's problems are far more subtle, but doesn't make go to extremes like killing people.

Rem is far more a perfect trophy wife, because unlike her Emilia's isn't afraid to tell him off when he does something stupid.

I feel like punching a wall to feel manly when the sausagefest will begin. Anyone else with similar plans.

>>142862738

We can see Emilia's complexity since the beginning. She seems always a different person. First she introduces herself like Satella, and she is harsh but also nice. Later she hates to be called Satella. Then she reveals her supposed true name. "Emilia. JUST Emilia." To hide her origin or whatever. She is a mess. And behind this mess there are some reasons we know and some reasons we have to know yet. If this isn't an interesting character, more interesting than a maid oni whose we already know the past, I don't know it.

>>142862908
>not saying her surname is somehow complexity to you people and shows that she is a 'mess'
wow so deep

>>142862470
>making shit up
Except all that happened, retard

>>142863006
>>not saying her surname is somehow complexity to you people and shows that she is a 'mess'
>wow so deep

Not only for that reason, anon.

>>142862738
>because unlike her Emilia's isn't afraid to tell him off when he does something stupid.
Is Rem afraid to tell Subaru off when he does something stupid?

>>142863006
So who do you find interesting as a chatacter in this show? Because you're giving off a kind of saltiness that seems familiar.

So now the quick talking saucy Rem we all love is gone and turned into a blithering idiot in love who wants Subaru's cock huh? Why go this route?

>>142863249
To please the waifufags of course.
And it's clearly working

>>142863093

"Baka" <--- Rem level of bashing Subaru

>>142863249
Waifu pandering for the virgins.

>>142863283
"I am completely abandoning you because you lost a battle. Fuck you." <--- Emilia level of bashing Subaru

>>142863093
no see mayonnaise scene

>>142863093
>unlike her Emilia's isn't afraid to tell him off when he does something stupid.

Except Rem does.

>>142863249
Not according to what some people have said here, but you'll have to ask them. Supposedly she only really gets into complimenting him when he's feeling like shit.

>>142863249
>>142863280
>>142863317
>butthurt seconadary emiliafags that didn't read the source posting bullshit again

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>>142863448
I'm still just shocked that they even exist at this point.
They're almost as cucked as Subaru himself. Maybe they get off to it.

>>142863336

It was way more complex than that. He broke many promises. Plus she wanted to protect him. And I am okay with her harsh reaction. She is a true woman, not otaku pandering shit.

>>142863249
Huh? Not really.

>>142863463
Oh fuck off.

>>142863479
>She is a true woman
Exactly. A bitch.

>>142863448

Remfag, you are saying bs

>>142863506

Better than a shitty character born to make otaku happy

>>142863551
Are you seriously implying Emilia isn't exactly that?

>>142863448
>Pandering to Waifufags
>Bullshit
Stay butthurt.

>Butthurt
That's a nice way to describe yourself.

>>142863479
>Plus she wanted to protect him

What? I's because she couldn't take the social/political embarrassment and just straight up left him. Not to mention how they bickered like children.

>He broke many promises

To fucking protect her and help her. The fact that Subaru broke a promise just to do that shouldn't be met with such harsh criticism.

>>142863598

Since Rem is more liked by otaku than Emilia, you know which girl has been characterized for being a more perfect waifu

>>142863283
>Baka

Now that's just wrong. There are times where Rem calls Subaru outright pitiful.

>>142863463
Don't tell Rem

>>142863619
>What? I's because she couldn't take the social/political embarrassment and just straight up left him. Not to mention how they bickered like children.

He was still weak or you forgot him? She didn't want he hurt himself further

>>He broke many promises
>To fucking protect her and help her. The fact that Subaru broke a promise just to do that shouldn't be met with such harsh criticism.

He broke MANY promises. Sorry if there are some people who consider promises something important for trusting you

>>142863669

It's still bland bashing. Nothing drastic.