Macross Delta

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>>142837775
>the BoguexFreyja poster is back

This >>142837769
It would be great if he indeed was, since they would have the same life-time and Hayate wouldn't miss her when she dies.

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>>142837863
We are always here.

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>>142837863
Nobody can stop us, anon.

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Sheryl the indisputable best girl

I can't stop listening to this ED. I melt a little more every time I hear that 覚悟するんよ
Still not taking a side on this triangle though.

>>142838485
I hope you're prepared.

Consider the following:

>>>/wsg/1129631

If this >>142837769 happen. I hope that they will not pull the sibling bullshit out.

>>142838258
GIRI GIRI SUMMER

>>142837769
>>142838772
Hayate and Freyja are related

>>142838772
>>142838889
What sibling bullshit man, there's no way that would ever happen. They don't look alike at all. Hayate looks like he doesn't even know where he comes from, maybe his mother was human and his father windermerian, that would make sense since he doesn't have a rune.

>>142838933
And then he would be the mediator of peace between the two countries like Mirage's granparents did.

Japan and Taiwan and Minori agreed that there should be a triangle end and if not a Mirage end. Will American fans prove to have the same poor taste when Kawamori asks the fans the same question at AnimeExpo and will the producers change the ending based on fan feedback?

>>142839011
>will the producers change the ending based on fan feedback?
Kawamori don't let Zessica win so maybe no.

>>142837941
>>142838139
>we
>us

>>142839011
What is the poll result? I heard that it's
1.choose both
2.Mirage
3.Freyja
They're prefer Mirage over Freyja?

>>142839011
>triangle end
>delusional Freyerfags

>>142838933
Don't worry, they will be heavily related, just not brothers.

>>142839340
both > mirage > freyja

>>142839602
>both
Damn the have a shit taste, wing ending is shit.

>>142839011
>and if not a Mirage end


I'm sorry, but how can they possibly justify this? I know Japan has shit taste, but this is taking it a little too far. Mirage has had no development and is one small step above being a literal who. Thinking Hayate should end with her at this juncture in the story is mind-blowing.

subs when

>>142839011
You forgot that they just picked Mirage because baww Freyja will die, so sad (she's a rebound).

>>142839711
Who knows what they can pull off in 15 episodes.

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>>142839340
It's not that they prefer Mirage over Freyja, in fact they love Freyja and she is the most popular. It's just that in the eyes of Japanese culture, Idols are suppose to remain pure. Which is why various real life idols in japan hide their relationships and some that have been found out are sued, even face jail time for breaking contract. If you look closely at the win vs lose chart meme people like posting, and observe the losers you'll notice the pattern. All pure promoted idols, Sheryl wasn't portrayed as pure type. And purity for idols, especially pure idols is big as they don't want them tainted. Idk if you watch other idol anime's but that is the constant pattern in all of them, liking a guy they can't be with because they love their jobs more. Even Akb0048 had that plot. It's also why in DYRL kaifun was afraid that Minmay's idol career would end because of Hikaru.

It's just an unfortunate curse that idols have to bare, some go through it because they love their jobs. Others leave their jobs for the person they like, it just depends on the idol.

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>>142839011
>will the producers change the ending based on fan feedback?
Anyone who has not enough confidence in their work that they would actually change their work after they've finished it based on feedback from some fans shouldn't be doing it in the first place.

Of course, if EVERYONE is telling you to change something, it may be a good idea to do so. Just look at what happened when George Lucas had free reign over Star Wars with no one having the guts to restrain him from his poorer ideas anymore because he's the guy who made Star Wars. The outcome of a love triangle is not a situation where this should happen.

>>142839825
>idols
>pure
>Sheryl Nome

Stay in denial and drink that damage control kool-aid

>>142839711
I'm fucking surprised that Freyja's fanbase are bigger but people prefer Mirage to win.

>>142839755
Just watch the raw.

You would understand at least 70% of what they say anyway.

>>142839711
>Japan

It was china and this was their reasoning >>142839809 Minori is trolling though, she even flashed a smile to the producers about if her character is going to die. They are stating the only way for Mirage to win is that if Freyja dies.

>>142839809
That was Minori's reasoning not the crowd.

>>142839825
>Even Akb0048 had that plot
0048 had that plot only because AKB itself is like that. Purity has never been relevant in Macross.

>>142839825
That has nothing to do with Japan or idols, retard. They literally said that answer because they believe Freyja will die and can't face a sad ending. That's all. Literally there's absolutely nothing Mirage can do against Freyja.

This was in Taiwan, not Japan. Nobody gives a shit about Mirage/Hayate in Japan.

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>>142839825
It's true. This japanese idol from a popular idol group shaved her head, because she shamed her idol group and herself as an idol for being caught dating a guy. Japan takes the purity of idols seriously.

That's why deep down, as much as I want Freyja to win, I know it won't happen.

http://www.dailydot.com/entertainment/minami-minegishi-miichan-shaves-head-apology/

>>142839825
>Idols are suppose to remain pure.
3d idols are different from 2d idols.

>>142839809
Holyshit that's a shitty reason.

>Freyja
>idol

The fuck?

>>142839919
>Nobody gives a shit about Mirage/Hayate in Japan.
>Mirage comes in 4th in a Newtype ranking while her screentime is akin to a side character

>>142839859
>>142839917
Just look at the pattern, Sheryl was the exception because she was promoted as promiscuous and not pure like the other idols.

>>142839967
Walkyure are universal idols y'know.

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Can someone translate the blurbs and big text?

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>>142840053
funny that Sheryl is the purest and best of all of them.

>>142840011
The only reason anyone likes Mirage is because she's a Jenius. She brings nothing else to the table.

>>142840116
>Sheryl is the purest
Not anymore

>>142840057
Walkure aren't idols, they are a tactical military private unit. Kaname is the only one who was an idol. Kawamori makes a huge difference between idols and songtresses. Sara and Mao were never idols either. In the past, a point of development to pop idols was accepting shouldering the duty of utahime and sing for peace as some kind of culmination (Sheryl, Ranka and Minmay), but in case of Walkure they start with the fundamental role as utahime to save people. Kawamori also gives two shits about the neckbeard audience: Mao moved on and married someone else, Ranka is paired with her brother in some spin off because he liked it, Minmay dated Kaifun and probably fucked Hikaru during Christmas, Sheryl fucked Alto, Mylene was a horny slut and was raped by a lesbian in a manga. The purest singer is Basara.

>>142840116
But Alto fucked her.

>>142840097
She's not ever gonna give back that phone, is she?

>>142840255
Pretty much. He even stated in an interview that Alto and Sheryl could break up and she would be the one who moves on quickly and see other guys in show biz (not that they will, but it's also a possibility). He really doesn't give a shit about purity. He does what he wants in that aspect.

>>142840255
>implying basara didn't fuck the galaxy

>>142840053
There aren't even enough idols to establish a pattern. Zero didn't have idols, Sharon was an idol but doesn't exactly count, Mylene wasn't really an idol, but even if you want to count her purity was never relevant.

>>142840355
He was pure. Fuck you.

As I was saying, Walkure's songs have a lot of blatant sexual innuendo. He's not aiming for muh pure idols. That idea is laughable. He would have tried to tell his composer to make songs about friendship and dreams and that sugary crap idols sing.

>>142840359
Walkure aren't idols, retard.

>>142840168
>>142840265
Wrong in both accounts.
They made love and she leg-lock him.

>>142840053
What pattern?

Minmay dated her cousin and stayed with Hikaru overnight. That pattern? The only one who had a pure "idol" image was Ranka and was overly childish in everything. Her songs are also "pure" (feelings and cutesy stuff) while half of Walkure songs are about fucking. Including the ones Freyja sings so happily.

>>142840524
KOWASHITE

>still no subs
Wow it's like I'm back in the pre-CR days, I can dig it.

>>142840495
Still not pure

If her fans knew they'd turn into Rankashitters overnight

>>142840326
Sheryl is a slut then

>really thinking Kawamori gives a shit about purity and lonely otaku
This is the man who made Aquarion, featuring bestiality and homosexuality as main romances. Who didn't cave in to make otaku's pick up favorite girl win the triangle and stick with the least popular choice; who even had that favorite girl hinted to be paired with the other loser as a final fuck you.

The only one who can pressure him are the producers and whoever is calling the shots, but he doesn't give a fuck about the audience in general. What other triangle can you count that he has the loser girl moving on and marry someone else like Mao did? Not just that, but she wasn't hung down the guy she lost and had a happy family life and a successful career? He had Myung sleep with Guld. Hikaru losing Minmay to Kaifun (regardless of what Network pushed him to write, this was the resolution of his novels). He gives two fucks about how much Milia and Max are popular as couple and references them as a failure of a marriage.

He'll write what he wants. If Freyja wins/loses, it won't be because of muh pure idol when she's singing songs about orgasms and sex in a metaphorical way. There's also the possibility she wins, lives her life with Hayate dies, and Hayate will eventually move on with Mirage or someone else if he falls for them then.

>>142840418
I-ICCHAU KAMO NEEEE

>>142840418
No way, if he had told him that then we wouldn't have Ikenai borderline now and I wouldn't be addicted to it.

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>this couple will never become canon
;_;

>>142841048
If she dies they can fuck all they want in heaven.

>>142840814
Didn't a different writer do that in the original Macross? The only script Kawamori is credited for is the last episode.

>>142841048

Who cares about canon when we have movies?

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>>142840326
Sheryl x Alto OTP anon. They are unbreakable.

Will a walkyure die in this series?

What if they kill Reina and then Makina becomes a raged bersek lesbian firing missiles from her tits to everyone seeking for revenge?

Subs when?

>>142841048
And nothing of value was lost.

>>142841318
I seriously doubt it just due to merchandise and post series concerts.

>>142841313
If they're break up AlSheryl fans (including me) would be mad as fuck.

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Delta got me into the series and I've been watching the old ones recently; just finished Plus and I know it's supposed to be renowned for slick dogfights and all but can we take a moment to admire how fucking awesome the episode 2 concert scene was? Blew my mind, I keep rewatching it. So far my favourite Macross scene after SDF episode 27.

>>142841356
It would be hilarious to make the post series concert and have the seiyuu sing in a obake outfit.

>>142841318
They have plpt armor though. Maybe Kaname or Reina can die because their VAs are already popular.

>>142841426
Kawamori was trully ahead of his time.

What was the name of Reina's hacking song and does anyone know when it'll be released?

>>142841175
Yeah, but Kawamori made the novelization.

This Sunday's dogfight is not going to be same without my SHIROKISHI and SHINIGAMI shenanigans

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>>142841313
Literal soulmates.

what were Rankashitters even thinking?

>>142841486
Silent hacker. Still don't know release date.

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>>142841598
>what were Rankashitters even thinking?
They weren't.

>>142841598
I can't find any chemistry between Alto and Ranka. She's cute being with her two onii-chan.

>>142841645
Thank you!

>>142841590
I'll miss it too, though I'll be looking forward to Hayate undoubtedly stepping up his game to fill Messer's shoes.

>>142840979
Naked scene was fucking awkward while this song was playing.

>>142841590
Maybe we still get DELTA 5! and GO TO HELL WALKUREEE.

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>>142841718
Mirage is the new Delta Ace

>>142842075
Didn't I hear somewhere that Hayate gets promoted to squad leader or something? Maybe it was just bullshit. Mirage is probably a much better pilot.

I think Heinz cured Mikumo of her autism.

>has already expressed concern for other people's feelings multiple times since
>facial expression is no longer default shimpi
>hasn't been naked since

>>142840275
DOROBO!!

>>142837775
Oh /a/

>>142842116
Hayate will take the lead. Other pilot will become better.

>>142842116
It's in the Hayate interview. Hayate will be the leader and ace.

Mirage becomes more girly as her character development. Maybe she'll bring a cheerleader outfit to scream DELTA FIVE DELTA FIVE.

>>142842357
>Other pilot will become better.
Based Chuck.

>>142842424
>Mirage becomes more girly
I love this shit. Misa giving Hikaru pictures of herself with kittens was cute as heck. Gap moe is the strongest force on the planet.

>>142842424
>Maybe she'll bring a cheerleader outfit to scream DELTA FIVE DELTA FIVE
FUCK, I want that.
>>142842444
I don't care about Luca but I care about him so much.

>>142842494
Like Misa before her she will win and the other party will be sore losers

>>142842537
Definitely a possibility, but his and Freyja's chemistry together is undeniably good so I wouldn't count that out.

>>142842585
>chemistry
>Kawamori literally made Amata get with Mikono despite all the best developments happening with Zessica instead

He doesn't give a fuck.

>>142842634
Zessicafags = Freyjafags

Pottery

>>142842645
What the fuck is this logic? I don't know if she gonna lose like Zessica but Freyja's main heroine.

>>142842634
It is pretty sad that Kawamori bailed on the project around the half way point, but the staff still couldn't do what they wanted.

>>142842645
Nobody could lose as hard as Zessica. Nobody.

>>142842685
I heard that Okada gonna let Zessica win but Kawamori reject. Is this real?

>>142842704
Freyja will outlose her

>>142842685
There will never be a bigger case of the wrong girl winning than Aquarion EVOL. Even the VAs couldn't believe how shit Mikono was.

>>142842716
Kawamori had the biggest boner for Mikono for unknown reasons. The series looked like it was going in a strong fuck fate direction, but then Amata ends up with Mikono because that was his fate.

>>142842824
>I'm gonna fight fate so I can be with Mikono-san!
>OH SHIT WE'RE DESTINED TO BE TOGETHER! THANK YOU BASED FATE!

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>>142842585
Their chemistry are too great.

>>142842894
"""chemistry"""

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>>142842894
Also their fanarts are fucking cute.

>>142842894
I seriously need to see Hayate kiss Freyja's rune before the series is over. It absolutely needs to happen.

>[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_11_[2B5AEEE1]

>>142842917
sleepy Freyja is moe

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>>142842917
CUTE
U
T
E

>>142842943
Fuck you.

>>142842920
Is that cunnilingus?

>>142840097
>>142792511

>>142843161
Adding to that, the big blur is essentially the writer saying that he thinks on the strong points of the series is essentially Hayate's and Freyja's growth, and how they continue to head forward despite setbacks n' stuff

>>142842956
>another hayate bullying bogue fanart
saved

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>>142843720
>it's real
God bless.

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It's showtime! Welcome to Walkure World~

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>>142843579
HayaFureBogu is a pretty cute fan triangle. Also bullying Bogue is fun.

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>>142842424
I think that she would kill herself before doing that. On the other hand, if it's for a mission...

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>>142843720
it's time

>>142843746
face is a bit off, but nekkid kumokumo's are always welcome

>>142843720
noice

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>>142843786
Bogue is for bullying
HayaFure is for cute

>>142843720
FInally!

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>>142843720
I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU

>>142842494
Misa was an actual character. Mirage is just furniture.

>>142843855
>Freyja BTFO

So the rumors were real, Hayate will fall for Mirage

>>142844220
Welcome to 2 months ago

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>>142843720
FINALLY

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Not to start a Macross v Gundam debate, but there's something to the directing of Delta that just highlights everything wrong with IBO. Scenes that are supposed to be intense and dramatic, are intense and dramatic. There was weight in Messer's death that there wasn't when Fumitan died. Hell, that whole arc was shit.

In any case, good episode. Shame, I won't be watching Delta for the next 3 weeks most likely. But oh well, hat's life.

>>142844220
Explain.

Freyja and Mikumo's harmonization at the end of Giraffe Blues! Beautiful!!

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>dat remember 16

I think we all know that Macross 7 is Kawamori's favourite Macross. it also has the best music

>>142844759
Ehhh, we've already had several macross plus songs, if anything it's underrepresented.

It does have the best music though

>>142844685
Why are you leaving us for three weeks!?

>>142844719
He can't because it's just a shitposting.

Where did it say that Freyja, Mikumo, and Heinz lost their ability to emit fold waves? I remember some anons saying about it wasn't mentioned during check up scene with Freyja. Did gg miss out that part?

Something I found interesting. According to Mikumo their consciousness was invaded, and they were completely analyzed and read like a book. Mikumo thinks it was the wind singer, but Roid and us the viewers know its connected to the ruins in some way.

But what I actually found interesting was the fact that even though all three individuals experienced each others consciousness, Freyja spoke about Heinz, while Heinz spoke about Freyja and they leave us in the dark about Mikumo again!!

Will they ever stop adding to the mystery and start giving us at least some info.

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Fuck off Bogue.

>>142844851
No, Heinz was clearly read to sing at the end. They just bated us and we fell for it. Anons can be dick at times.

>>142844759
it's already been implied from before that the chuck's little brothers is a fire bomberfag, not entirely surprising. but yeah, still nice hearing macross 7 songs.

>>142844685
>literally Macross Zabi

I look forward to Windermere getting Exterminatus'd again

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>>142844794
France for 3 weeks. Euro 2016 and just to visit the country. Might be on /a/ during that time, but I doubt it.
>>142844871
Apart from SDF, 7 got the most love in Frontier. Also, the amount of content that 7 had trumps every other Macross

>49 episodes
>3 Encore episodes
>A movie
>4 episode OVA
>A crossover with Frontier

I feel pretty bad for Messer. Keith's shot to the heart means he got seriously outplayed. Kaname barely seemed to care.

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Fuck, Messer didn't deserve this

>>142844852
I doubt they'll start giving us stuff until the second half. Frontier did the same thing too. Revelations didn't start happening until the Gallia IV incident.

>>142844916
don't forget 7 had
>best male protag

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>>142844925
You sure about that?

>>142844925
>Kaname barely seemed to care.
again with this, did you watch until the end? I'm not saying kaname loves messer, but it's pretty obvious that she cares a lot about messer.

>shot to the heart

Dead as fuck

Hayate shoving a dagger to his cockpit

>>142844685
his majesty is definitely dead as fuck next episode, isn't he?

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>>142844979
>Kaname barely seemed to care.

You what? She wasn't in love with him like Chuck's sister so she wouldn't react the same way, but she's just as hurt by his death as everyone else. Probably even moreso because she was the one singing at the time.

In the end, she's probably the most grateful to him.

It was a pretty heart warming episode overall.

I wonder how Hayate will carry the team after this or if he'll fuck up immediately.

>>142842116
Mirage is currently the better pilot mechanically but Hayate's got a much higher ceiling than her and a level of ingenuity you can't really create. He'll be Delta Squadron's new ace eventually, though him serving as a leader seems kind of weird at this point in his development.

>>142845027
Meant for >>142844925

>>142845026
>constantly shown bedridden
>this episode shows him get up and take the lead in a big ship
>next episode is named after him

Dead as a doornail

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I like how during this scene it's about how they interpret Messer's meticulous flight logs and what it meant about their relation with him, rather than it being some "last message" recording he conveniently made before his death.

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>>142844979

>>142845097
AUTISM
U
T
I
S
M

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>>142844759
>A mountain moves the same episode that Remember 16 plays

BRAVO
R
A
V
O

>>142842116
Mistranslation or anon pulling things out of his ass.

The blurb only said he would pull the rest of the platoon along.

>someone says that Hayate becomes more main characterlike
>He becomes the new ace everyone!
>He becomes the new leader of the squad!
>He's literally promoted to the squad leader everyone!

Can you guys just not?

>>142844983
>>142844984
She was the last one to go sing, and she might not have gone at all if everyone else hadn't.

>>142845027
The way it comes off, she only thought of him as a fan or a work colleague or something. In comparison, there's Hayate and Mirage realizing just how much he loved to fly and Arad with his banana sake. That, to me, demonstrates the sense of loss more strongly than any of Kaname's actions this episode.
>Sure you don't want to take some time off?
>Nah it's cool

>>142845055

Fucking space ISIS is going to stab him in the back no doubt.

>>142845177
No. We must misinterpret everything.

>>142845097
The conversation here and later from the Caption really showed Messer as someone with a Martyr fantasy. His death would have been much more tragic had he actually enjoyed more things in life and had a strong wish to live.

>>142844852
>they leave us in the dark about Mikumo again!!
the housefire is definitely from freyja's memories
the huge crater is heinz's
which means, this huge galaxy thingy is definitely from mikumo's memories.

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>>142845097
>he spent all that time in front of his computer
>instead of tapping dat ass

It's too late for me, but you young ones still have a chance.

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>>142844979
Good point.
>>142845026
Yep. Question is, will be Roid or Keith who kills him?
>>142845165
Basara finally did it!

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>>142845225
forgot the pic

>>142845040
Mirage is the worst pilot. She even got shot by fucking Bogue because instead of fighting she stares at what other people are doing.

>>142845208
The point is that he saw himself as a martyr and someone who was going to die soon and thus didn't give himself an opportunity to live, in more ways that one.

>>142845189
Have you or anyone you know EVER lost a friend or family member?

people cope in different ways, Kaname for sure isnt reacting like she lost a lover or some shit. But shes definitely grieving for a friend. To say shes cares less than Freiya, green lesbien, titty monster and purple chick is some serious denial

>>142845199
Too early for them.

>>142845225
>>142845254
It just depends on what the galaxy and stars mean. I'm inclined to believe that it lends credence to the "Mikumo is a jellyfish" idea because she would always be gazing up towards the sky from the ocean.

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I almost put my fist thru the fucking wall expecting them to cut to a heavily comatose Messer in a hospital.


im glad sadness won the day

>>142845189
Are you a sociopath or do you not understand she was bottling her feelings which she finally allowed herself to grieve in the end thanks to Mikumo and the others?

>>142845189
Not everyone bawls when a loved one dies. Some people live in denial about it, or try to put on a brave face. Kaname was one of the two or a combination of both.

>>142845177
I mean, the rampant speculation and misinterpretation is kind of dumb but the plot itself isn't really being subtle about setting up Hayate as Delta Squadron's new ace.

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>>142845189
>Sure you don't want to take some time off?
>Nah it's cool

And? Arad pretty much reacted the same way when Kaname asked him that question. And, if nothing else, her tears during her solo at the end confirm she cared just as much about him as everyone else.

>>142845189
you might wanna see a therapist or something cause you seem really unhinged to other peoples' emotions

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SLUT

>>142845208
Probably hard to enjoy things in life when you look at your flight log after going amok and remembering the carnage constantly.

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HOL UP

>>142845418
they think theyre the decedents of bird people. Seems fitting

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I don't think Kawamori has ever put a green through what Kaname has had to deal with. I bet that sixteen fucking episodes from now, at the series wrap-up montage at the end of the last episode, we're going to see her sitting alone in her room drinking whiskey and playing Axia off of the bracelet.

Anyone else noticed a lot of Chuck death flags this episode?

What's a bit depressing about Messer is that he quickly became everyone's inspiring memory and didn't have a person who just grieved and missed him for who he is, not what he sacrificed. Kaname also clearly showed that she had zero romantic thoughts about him. If anything it seems Captain was grieving a lot and just not letting it show.

>>142845379
Fuck off you dense faggot. Kaname was faking how hurt she really was just like Arad. Both of them lost a dear friend and comrade.

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We always talk about fighting and shipping, but can we talk about how well Mikumo and Freyja harmonized during Giraffe Blues, especially the ending.

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Where did Mikumo come from? She wasn't with them when they were eating and drinking.

>>142845529
probably swimming naked with the jellyfish

>>142845529
From the sea obviously.

>>142845529
She's one of those "ooooh, mysterious" characters that Japan thinks are cool for some reason, so she probably just teleported or some shit.

>>142845529
Mikumo comes and goes as she pleases.

>>142845486
Arad brings that up though. Messer kept everyone at arm's length and Hayate's bitter about it. He never got the chance to really know Messer as a person, only the brief glimpses that happened to shine through on occasion.

>>142845281
I have.

I know people cope in different ways, and I know that Kaname didn't love him like that. But for all the weight the show placed on their relationship, all we saw of Kaname's grief was a single shot of her crying at his funeral and then once at the end, immediately before challenging Mikumo's idolship, with no change in her personality in between.

>>142845322
>>142845334
I'll grant that that's a perfectly reasonable way for people to grieve IRL, but this is a dramatized work of fiction and they didn't really depict her bottling things up or being in denial. Or if I missed something, go ahead and show me.

>>142845338
Arad at least has the excuse of important duties and responsibilities that force him to keep going.

>>142845356
It actually kind of hurts my feelings that you guys think I'm a sociopath. I'm just saying that it's clear that Kaname never saw Messer on anywhere near the same level that he saw her, and I'm not just talking romantically. That's why I'm saying I feel bad for Messer.

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I finally finished watching all of Macross and got caught up with Delta. Now the weekly wait begins for me. At least there's a couple movies and ovas to keep me busy.

Flower Girl best girl

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>>142845597

>>142845618
That scene and the Milia vs Max knife fight are the greatest thing to ever be done under the macross name

>>142845529
She was sleeping with the fishes

>>142845319
fucking stupid to not know what was meant here

>>142845592
She's shed tears for him 3 times now? She didn't exactly bawl, but how much do you need to be satisfied? No, he wasn't her whole life, like she was to him. If you thought that I don't know what to tell you

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DAAAAAAMN

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>this episode
I can't wait to see Hayate level up, I knew he'd do it eventually.

>>142845592
Nobody else cried for him except her and that random slut who crushed on him, but there were shots of Kaname holding her feelings up and trying to put a brave face.

>>142845618
how kinda of basara to notice the flower girl forgets her flowers, save her the time from calling the taxi's company for forgotten/lost item.

>>142845785
kaname also cried during the funeral

>>142845592
>Arad at least has the excuse of important duties and responsibilities that force him to keep going.

Yeah and the actual important characters who are showed training and worrying their asses like Walkure who Kaname is the leader of aren't?

Delta are just Walkure glorified bodyguards. The ones who can do shit against Var are the idols. To the Windies Walkure, not Delta, are the target.

>>142845502
Their voices are perfect.

>>142845815
I know. She's also singing because he believed in her, so he gave her courage to stop putting herself down and she "shone" the brightest thanks to him. Are people autistic or something?

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I hope they fix this in the BD. These low quality shots kinda killed the mood of the scene.

>>142845486
>Kaname also clearly showed that she had zero romantic thoughts about him.

I think she does now, and has since the last episode - and that adds on another layer of black humor because she was always trying to be a good leader and spend time with him because he seemed so isolated but she was utterly oblivious to his feelings and for his part Messer loved her immensely and would probably have loved to spend time with her but he stayed away because he knew he was VAR'd and thought it would only hurt her.

This is a fucking masterpiece of suffering.

>>142845502
I noticed that. Pretty great to hear that. Really made the ending of that episode.

>>142845750
HILARIOUS

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Poor Messer.

>>142845570
>>142845569
>>142845529
Sudden appearances out of nowhere is what devil usually does.
Mikumo is literally Lucifer

>>142845929
She is Kawamori's self-insert.

>>142845236
Kawamori is so deep

>>142845236
No one likes that old hag

>>142845968
Kawamori is lucifer confirmed

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>>142845856
I don't necessarily agree with that. She certainly does hold stronger feelings for him now, after his death, and that's where the irony comes from. I do think she's still vaguely interested in Arad, but knows that the current situation just isn't the correct time to act on it, or doesn't consider it anything more than a crush that isn't worth acting on since Arad is pretty uninterested in romance in general. That sideways glance during this scene at least implies it.

>>142845929
>Mikumo = Lucifer = Devil = Protodeviln
Mikumo confirmed Protodeviln offspring of Basara and Sivil.

>>142838258
Sheryl a slut ~

>>142846015
I don't think it's after his death, but they got into a closer relationship since Voldor happened and Kaname spent time with Messer. It was bad timing overall.

>>142845254
Event in earth some type jellyfish can be immortal.So Mikumo maybe watch the galaxy from ancient time.

>>142845379
>that hand

>>142846015
>That sideways glance during this scene at least implies it.
That wasn't an implication that she's interested in Arad. It just shows that both of them were holding a strong front and didn't want to expose their emotions that they lost a good friend and colleague.

What are they gonna do with Messer's valk? Anyone think they're gonna pull a Hikaru/Roy later in the series?

>>142845592

Messer knew she wouldn't have strong feelings for him, he distanced himself from everybody to prevent that from happening. He was happy just sacrificing himself protecting Kaname to return the favor of saving his life. If he knew the effect his words had on Kaname, giving her singing meaning again and restoring her confidence, that would be more than Messer could ever hope for.

>>142846204
>you will never bring back your waifus smile

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When you dwell on the past
While Arad pounds her sweet ass
AXIA
When she sings while you're dead
It's his face in her head
AXIA

When she's cleaning cum stains
When you're flying your planes
AXIA
When she's with producer guys
And you're still none the wise
AXIA

When you listen to her song
She is sucking his dong
AXIA
When there's Var in your piss
She makes out with Keith
AXIA

When his semen is spent
Your bracelet is still on her hand
AXIA
When you fly all alone
Her hips move on their own
AXIA

>>142846269
Oh come on some of that didn't even rhyme

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prediction for lady M's reinforcement?

>>142846060
Basara is pure, dammit.

>>142846315
Obviously NUNS but they will get rekt because Windermere is pegged too strong

>>142846337
Could be other branches of Chaos if the company operates on more than just Ragna.

>>142846269
Even as a joke these lyrics are just outright retarded.

>>142846374
The other branches have already fallen or wiped out

It's NUNS and it will be a le epik space battle where NUNS takes heavy casualties but Windermere loses a few ships and retreats

>>142846374
Maybe that planet where pirka chan is from

>>142846315
SMS

So far our wind rider count is 3 (Hayate, Keith, Messer). Over/under 8 total characters who ride the wind in a VF by the end of the series?

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>>142846315
BOMBER!

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>>142846315
Alto

War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries, mecha, and music. War - and its consumption of life - has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. Music powered soldiers listen to idol music, use music assisted gear. Fold Bacteria inside their bodies enhance and regulate their musical abilities. Mind control. Information control. Emotion control. Culture control. Everything is monitored and kept under control. War has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of music...All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction. And he who controls the music...controls history. War has changed. When music is under total control...War becomes routine

>>142846447
we're thankfully never seeing his ugly mug again

>>142846447
>Hey Hayate
>I'll teach you how to bang that Jenius girlfriend of yours

>>142846396
>The other branches have already fallen or wiped out

Eh, we haven't seen Chaos using local forces on any of the nearby planets they've operated on. I assume if they have other branches they were attached to completely different fleets and the associated settlement areas.

That said I don't necessarily think you're wrong about NUNS, it just depends on where they're going with this and who Lady M actually is. NUNS would certainly be a better choice than Chaos or another PMC company for providing lots of ships and redshirts to pivot into some fleet battles.

>>142846484
>alto
>telling anyone how to get a girl

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So basically the windfags have gotten their hands on an old protoculture ship.

Seeing as the SDF-01 beat those things back in 2009 with VF-1's, I dont think NUNS will have much of an issue.

>>142846484
>Alto
>giving a shit about pilots

He'll teach him how to fuck idols, not losers.

>>142846484
>implying Alto knows how to woo a girl to bed
Seriously Sheryl is the man in their relationship. She's likely the one and not Alto who would initiate having sex.

>>142846550
Did you skip the part they can take over the galaxy if they wanted? Not that the king gives a shit about that, he seems focused on his small sector, but twenty bucks ISIS will take advantage.

>initially dislike Chuck because he gives off Kakizaki vibes
>he's actually a good character
I'm glad he didn't die. I wish they'd just kill Kakizaki again.

>>142846548
>>142846569
>>142846574
>fuck a 20/10 for 7 years
>implying he won't be a manly man at this point

>>142846574
This.

Alto is a sub and Sheryl is a dom.

>>142846599
Kawamori literally says he's sheryl's housewife

>>142846550
Obviously not the same exactly. The ships they fought were part of massmanufactured zentradi forces. For their part, they didn't really have much in common with the protoculture aestehtic we've been shown. (The ruins in DYRL, Birdman/Afos from zero, various ruins in Delta, and now this ship)

The protoculture ship will for sure have some doomsday weapon on it or another. And why the fuck would you think NUNS gets to kill the ship? What the fuck do you think the Elysion is for?

>>142846581
They can take the cluster, dude. The cluster. If they just take Ragna and Al Shahal.

>>142846640
In an apron and all.

>>142846599
What part of Alto fucking off with the Vajra didn't you understand? Oh no he's totally back. Just like Shin and the crew from Megaroad 1

>>142846581
The ruins are what help Ketchup control the cluster, and only that cluster. There aren't ruins in whole galaxy that we know about.

I just realised that there's a good chance that we'll see the Elysion lift off to combat the Protoculture relic ship.

I'm hype.

>>142846731
Shin DID come back though. That's how we got the story of Zero.

>>142845290
>mikumo is a jellyfish
in the context of this episode, who does kawamori want to tell us that mikumo is an incarnation of

>>142846752
No. It was classified for 50 years, the idea for the movie came about after it was declassified. jesus.

Shin didn't tell the story.

>>142846484
>Alto-hime
>know how to bang a girls
Also he will teach him to get idol wing instead.

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Guys, is there a tag for pic related?

Single/several fighter craft rush the carrier, dodging incoming missiles, anti-aircraft curtain fire and defenders? Shit gets me hard.

>>142846775
The explanation I saw was that he told the story to someone else as he was dying. Which would probably have been around the same time as they declassified the event.

>>142844719
Read the interviews

>>142846795
Danmaku?

>>142846752
You're forgetting that Mao Nome was around.

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>>142845379

Already trying to seduce Arad with her exposed belly and lower back and bending over.

>>142846550

I wouldn't be surprised if the ship is linked with Heinz and the ruins somehow. This is kind of the opposite of SDF, to make it a fair fight the windys need some kind of home field advantage or cheat code if the main fleet shows up.

>>142844925
Kaname loves Arad that's why

>>142846817
True. I imagine she had input on the story too. Unless this was all after her and the 117th "vanished".

>>142846799
Well you saw a load of bull then. There's no explanaition or anything covering Shin and Sara's fine. Kawamori has no intention of touching it. It's specifically left up in the air.

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>>142846731
>hasn't heard about Alto yet

>>142845027
She knows she killed him, it's guilt.

>>142846806

Well, yeah, but I was thinking more along the vein of macross-verse, like Itano Circus, but thisll do.

>>142846803
Which one?

>>142845189
Kaname wanted to comfort the captain personally but he failed to notice her feelings... again. She's gonna have to be much more straightforward

Messer ;_;7

>>142846902
>Kaname wanted to comfort the captain personally

SLUT
L
U
T

Messer's death made Kaname motivate herself as a singer again, at least. Hearing her accept mediocrity in the past episodes was sad.

Kinda wonder how NUG with all its resources still haven't uncovered Protoculture secrets while space ISIS managed to crank the ruins power to maximum and probably is hiding knowledge on its working.
>>142846795
Touhou

>>142845379
touching hair == whore

>>142845529

from THE DEPTHS

>>142846973

An ancient evil?

>>142846937
>Kinda wonder how NUG with all its resources still haven't uncovered Protoculture secrets while space ISIS managed to crank the ruins power to maximum and probably is hiding knowledge on its working.
Because they're plot dumb. Just like how NUNS ships are made out of tinfoil, for the plot. Think about how carriers and frigates in this, and Frontier, just explode to one or two shots, whereas a Valk will take a metric shit ton of damage by comparison.

It'd be no fun if the NUG could send the NUNS everywhere to curbstomp everything. Or if PMCs did whatever they wanted.

>>142846937
Aren't they too busy watching out for hostile Zent fleets out there and shit? I got the impression the government still has its hands full with everything and other research efforts have had bad results in the past.

>>142845338
K; "I'm your rival too, someone loves my songs"

M: "Not anymore, and song, not songs"

>reinforcements arrive
>they get all Var'd
Walkure is literally the only defense Brisingr cluster has against it at this point unless Heinz is taken out like last ep.

>>142845618
Plastic

>>142847024
Not if they rig every planet with dimension eaters.

>>142845379
I felt like this was too soon

>>142846937
we still don't know much about Epsilon though. there might be a reason why the know a lot about the protoculture secrets.

>>142847024
And walkure is gonna be where? On Elysion. Elysion is getting it's time to shine in the coming episode, after being cockteased since the start of the series.

>>142844963
Still waiting to find out what happened to Galaxy Island.

>>142847024
bomb the protoculture ruins!

>>142846015
She should be more honest and ride his cockpit already.

>>142847058
you're not getting an answer. Frontier's done.

>>142847051
Nigger, please. Battle 25 had to wait 20 episodes before getting used and we were all aware of it. Same for Battle 7.

>>142845189
You are retarded if that's what you think happened. You must literally BE a basement dweller, cause obviously you never interacted with actual human beings.

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>>142846079
Sheryl a best

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>>142847075
It might as well be the Megaroad at this point.

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>>142846937
Oh and probably Japanese Armoured Core 4 Answer players since crazy men managed to dodge a 600m walking fortress and kill it with zero damage.
>>142846985
I was thinking that they might have something like Protoculture blueprints.
>>142847061
>Bomb something rooted to the planet core
What could possibly go wrong?

>>142846315
Luca

>>142847078
They gave us quarter to tide us over.
7's got 20 episodes of fuck all happening at the start too.

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Making Kaname walk into the ocean is the only time Messer made her wet.

>>142847102
I don't think Macross will ever have a bigger whore asociated with it

>>142847058
Only thing I've seen said about it was "Grace and her co-conspirators hid it in an asteroid field. "

>>142846447
Sheryl has already reshaped his cock to fit in her pussy like a glove.

Full Giraffe Blues when

>>142847186
About 3 weeks

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>>142847102
>>142847153
Perfection total sexiness and pureness incarnated.

How can she even exist ?!?!

>>142847157
You see that in the series, anyway. Galaxy Island was a waste of a good design

Walkure sems to think Heinz attacked them and vice versa

>>142847248
>overtly whorish
>literally has space aids
>slut

Look, you can give her any flattering adjective you want, I don't care.

EXCEPT pure.

When you stop trying to force her into being something she's not, the world will make sense for you

Wait, is that thing that sings for Windemere a boy?

>>142845529
*teleports behind you*
LISTEN TO MY FUCKING SONG

>>142847319
What part of this is surprising to you?

>>142847333
10/10

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I hope someone scans this when the time comes

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>>142847319

>TFW if Delta wasn't complete shit they probably could've finished off Keith

Messer deserves better wingmen. Mission kills their ace, and they still manage to fuck up.

>>142846946
B-but Hayate is pure. He's just peeing under the bush.

>>142846946
>i can't fap to this

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>>142847308
P U R E
U
R
E

>>142847419
>lost one man in 5
>37% of our fighting power is gone
KEK

>>142847456
How deep can Alto go inside?

>>142847460
>2 pilots need to fly to Messer's level to make up for it

>>142847375
Fuck, I want this.

>>142847495
It's gonna be all ages. Which drasticly reduces its likelyhood of being scanned

>>142847456
Pureness inside sexiness. THE BEST

>>142847494
>Hayate unironically thinks he can do it by himself

How fucked is Delta next episode?

>>142846920
She still failed as an idol, isn't the center and Messer died under her watch.

>>142847532
Depends on if Hayate can get his dance on

>>142835521
Which one?

How is Delta doing in popularity in Japan?
I'm not getting the impression that it's really taking off there.

>>142847667
Newtype

>>142847667
It's too early to speculate if it will be a success or not I think, Macross shows usually pick up the pace deep into the plot. It doesn't seem to be bombing however.