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Will Ghibli ever employ a female director? Nishimura fields this question. “It depends on what kind of a film it would be. Unlike live action, with animation we have to simplify the real world. Women tend to be more realistic and manage day-to-day lives very well. Men on the other hand tend to be more idealistic – and fantasy films need that idealistic approach. I don’t think it’s a coincidence men are picked.”

Ghibli accused of sexism in the west due to producer's comments on female directors, Japan reporting on it. It's happening, the culture war is reaching Japan.

http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/85957
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>>142650255
>the culture war is reaching Japan
>accused of sexism in the west
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>>142650255
Well they are right women are better at realistic fiction.
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>>142650327
>japan

Ghibli is owned by Disney you dumbass

the west is fucked
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>>142650255
>And after that incident japan didn't give another fuck about feminism

Who cares?
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>>142650489
Are you a retard or just pretending?
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>>142650489

>Ghibli is owned by Disney
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>Japan likes women more

Wow, shocking revelation. Total culture war happening.

Unless the Japanese have a beta uprising or whatever, that will never happen. Japanese people are too awkward to do anything.

Just look at their twitters, basically just pictures of food or cute animals.
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>western feminists project their insecurities onto Japanese women who don't give a fuck
Jealous western harlots WISH they were as successful as Japanese women are in publishing and animation. This kind of comment is shrugged off as "some guy's opinion" in Japan because they don't have a huge chip on their shoulder about "muh wage gap" thanks to some of the wealthiest and most influential artists in Japan being women.

Kind of hard to include Japs in the "struggle" when their entire outlook on the arts is fundamentally different. I mean fuck, the oldest Japanese work of fiction was authored by a woman, they've got nothing to prove about their chops.
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>>142650255
It's really unfortunate that he decided to say this. The feminists are foaming at the mouth at this opportunity to get a foothold in anime.
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>>>/v/
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>>142650255
>Men on the other hand tend to be more idealistic – and fantasy films need that idealistic approach
Do they?
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>>>/v/
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>>142650924
Japan doesn't care. Not even Japanese women care, they don't take western feminism seriously at all. The last time feminists tried hassling Japan it was the Japanese Women's Association that told them off and made them recant their statements. They got fucking humiliated by what they thought were their allies.
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>>142650255
Obviously sexist but the reaction this is getting is hilarious.

You have to have no idea what Japan is like not to expect a meandering, generalizing answer like this from a producer.
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>>142651140
It's sexist but it's not far from being true. The men in Studio Ghlibi movies are totally exaggerated, their personalities are something you'd find rarely and only in films like these. The women are exaggerated as well, but to a point. It'd be more common finding a girl in the real world similar to one of the characters in the movies.
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>>142651319
The producer is talking about the people creating the movies, not the people in the movies.
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>>142651319
I've always found Ghibli characters to either be exaggerated caricatures or boring 1 dimensional husks. The guy is right in my opinion, some of my favorite directors when it comes to character driven plots are female. Atsuko Ishizuka, Naoko Yamada and Rie Matsumoto.
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>>142651523
Damn, that reading comprehension I guess.

He's still not wrong I guess. Studio Ghibli, aside from Miyazaki himself, are and should typically be directed by females. The type of movies the studio produces are definitely female-oriented, although both genders like them.
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Well yeah, have you ever looked at wish fullfilment for girls? shoujo romances tend to be a lot more grounded in reality than harems. And let's not get started on josei manga.
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>>142651536
Shojo manga and shonen have the same amount of fluff, but it's clear their usual advantage is character and plot, respectively.
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>>142651649
>Studio Ghibli, aside from Miyazaki himself, are and should typically be directed by females.
You mean males.
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>>142651649
>Studio Ghibli, aside from Miyazaki himself, are and should typically be directed by females
Studio Ghibli has literally never had a movie directed by a female.
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>>142651536
>I've always found Ghibli characters to either be exaggerated caricatures or boring 1 dimensional husks
Barring their greatest stuff like Only Yesterday, this is very true
Similar to nu-Disney/Pixar the emphasis seems to be on making a pretty movie
It's nice to look at but not the sort of thing you'll watch more than once
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>>142651649
They have had female animators, but only male directors.

>>142651536
They make movies for children. They only rarely make sequels. There is no reason for extra character depth.
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>>142650255
>producer commenting on a trend he sees in manga and anime thanks to the wealth of male and female mangaka and stories by both genders and some of the most well known being women
>OP and garbage clickbait sites try and turn it into identity bullshit
Please stop.

>>142651536
This.
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Fuck the whitey
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>>142650255

Name me one good female anime director.
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I can't think of any female anime directors outside of Kyoani.
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>>142654611
I can name 10 but my favorite is Yamada.
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>>142654695
>>142642781
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>>142651033
>unironically linking a /v/ video

Kill yourself
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>>142658460
>kys

No, say it after me: Kill yourself
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>>142658460
Again:
>unironically linking a /v/ video
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Where are people seeing outrage about this?
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>>142658685
Any idea that women and men might be different/have different strengths is inherently sexist and wrong etc etc
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>the twenty western hipsters who happen to be Ghibli fans but also raging feminazis are outraged
>all of Japan just shrugs and goes back to watching Ponyo

Yup. Sounds like Japan is fucked.
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>>142658808
I know, but people in this thread are acting like there's outrage across the internet over this, and I was just wondering where you would even go to see that
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>>142650255
And those male directors still manage to make their female characters way better than in 90% of anime.
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>>142659
>where you would even go to see that

Well if you ask
https://twitter.com/search?q=Ghibli%20%20sexist&src=typd
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>The Guardian
Stop reading that shit.
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>>142658808
Same foes for saying there are differences between Asians/Europeans/Eskimo even if you're pointing out anatomical stuff.
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He isn't wrong though.
Also, as far I know Ghibli employed women in almost all fields.
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>>142659201
>it's mostly men complaining
sasuga
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>>142659464
It's almost like they're trying to cover their back.
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>>142659255
That can't be real. Please tell me it's not.
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>>142650255
Cultural Marxists and the far left have always wanted to ingrain their shitty worldview into Japan.
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People who don't know shit about anime (i.e. 99% of people) will interpret this as women being shut out of the industry and not being allowed to direct or do anything because Japanese men control everything and are misogynists.
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>>142659201
Reading this shit is triggering me to be honest. Why are all weeaboos outside of 4chan a bunch of white knights and feminists?
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>>142659554
More like they're trying to morally signal what good progressives they are
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>>142659796
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/08/dread-daughter-poos-smaller-girl-conform
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>>142650489
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>>142659866
Twitter is a hive of normalfags.
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>>142659016
I don't think outrage's the right word.
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>>142650255
Fuck, don't throw them fresh bait like that.

Expect another BBC exposé on sexism/pedophilia/some nonsense in the anime industry.
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>>142659201
Ah, Twitter. The trove of intelligence.
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>>142659866
People outside of 4chan might be white knights and feminists but almost just as bad as well even when they're different.
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>>142659255
>>142659894
the human race was a mistake
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>>142659825
This, unfortunately. The anime/manga industry is one of Japan's few shining examples of gender "equality", with the manga industry alone being a great example. Seriously, compare the amount of history and contributions women have made in manga compared to the contributions of women in American comics. The whole situation is honestly laughable.
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>>142662637
One of the best (if not the best) shonen manga of all time, FMA, was created by a woman.
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>>142650255
Will Ghibli ever make a film again?
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>>142658341
>looks down at /v/
>browses /a/


Come on man show some self awareness
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>>142650255

I hope the Japs never give in to that shit.
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>>142650255
He sounds pretty full of shit to be honest
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>>142651114
when was that?
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>>142650255
>the culture war is reaching Japan.
No, your shitty blog isn't creating anything and is parroting shit nobody cares about.
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>the culture war is reaching Japan

Japan is having its own culture war, don't assume Japan doesn't have civil rights activists because they're not like American SJWs.
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>>142650255
It's natural that different genders be better at different things, but it's not a tactful way to explain it. That sort of comment can actively discourage girls from trying to enter the industry or create Ghible-esque works, and there's nothing good about doing that. Just because trends swing in a certain direction doesn't mean it's a hard and fast rule.
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>>142659894
>guardian

Notepad
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Congrats, no more accidentally giving pennies and view counts. Now, with your new power of having more time to spend, give watch some anime.
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I don't agree with this at all, women tend to be more realistic? Absolutely not.
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>>142658685
there really isnt much outrage
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>>142663530
>I don't agree with this at all, women tend to be more realistic? Absolutely not.

You'd have to understand the history of women's roles in Japan, as well as the history of female creatives in Japan for the producer's comments to make sense.
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JK Rowling wrote Harry Potter. Then again she's a loon.
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For some reason Japanese artists say the weirdest shit in interviews and it's considered a normal thing there.

Yeah, I know this dude is technically not an artist but same shit
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>>142663504
this.
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>>142663463
This has already been reported by several Western sites and will probably spread further. It's useless to bury your head in the sand and pretend nobody cares.

>>142663504
>That sort of comment can actively discourage girls from trying to enter the industry or create Ghible-esque works
There are already many women working as directors, writers, storyboarders and designers, to say nothing of manga artists.

This idea that somebody's inconsequential remarks can discourage women from doing something has become a self-fulfilling prophecy in America.
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There seems to be more outrage over the "outrage" than outrage over the interview itself
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>>142663603
I well aware of that and I still don't agree
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>>142663705
There's no reason to get outraged over the interview.
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>>142663757
exactly
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>>142663606
loon?
all the best authors are
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>>142663650
But there's nothing abnormal about what he said. That's the experience he's had after doing his job for who knows how many years, it's perfectly reasonable.
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>>142650255
looking at the full quote, it actually is pretty sexist.
he seems to be implying that women can't write fantasy, and that obviously isnt true
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>>142663849
How can he say that women cant direct fantasy movies when Ghibli has never had a female director?
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>>142663895
Sexism aside, writing and directing are two different things, anon.
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>>142663509
Or just delete System32 altogether.
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>>142663978
well, ok. Direct fantasy.
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>>>/v/
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>>142663939
He never said they couldn't. He explained why he thought men were picked to direct fantasy films more often than women.
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WOMEN BTFO
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>>142664101

by implying that men are naturally better
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>>142664045
Ghibli is an anime studio, not a game developer.

>>142664107
No.
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>>142663606
JK Rowling is the only western author you know is female? Holy shit you're going places son.
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>>142664133
They usually are.
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>>142664133
Yes, at a small aspect of life.
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>>142664133
Perhaps that's actually the case.
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>>142663939
They never had a female director because they can't direct.
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>>142664159
Reporting on "the culture war" is not /a/ related. Fuck off. Take your political shit on /pol/ or reddit.
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>>142663403
Back in March.

The UN wants Japan to stop making manga and games that depict sexual violence. Japan's Women in Media group blew them out with:

>Perhaps cracking down on fictional sexual violence makes many people feel that at least something is being done. However, while we are busy debating the human rights of fictional characters, nothing is being done to protect the human rights of actual, living women.

http://wmc-jpn.blogspot.ca/2016/03/in-english.html?spref=tw
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>>142664191
All this damage control because you thought Ghibli is a game developer.
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>>142663606
HP is pretty shitty and she's a massive attentionwhore who likes doing stuff like retconning her characters into fags for media time.
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>>142664202
Hory fuck. Truly BTFO
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>>142664133
Which means he also implied women were naturally better at directing realism, but I don't see you getting offended over that.
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>>142664229
Everybody knows who Ghibli is you retard. But only /v/ermin think this kind of thread is board related. Because you people discuss this type of thing all the time.
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>>142664240
no, just a reasonable rebuttal
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>>142664244
I don't know what you would expect from asking a question besides getting an answer. You even got several answers, what a good day to be you.
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>>142664244
>What else would I expect, trying to discuss gender politics on 4chan?
The facts, and you got them.
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>>142664185
The best directors in the industry right now are all women. See >>142642781
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>>142664294
>Everybody knows who Ghibli is you retard.
Except you.
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>>142664244
>whelp
>gender politics
You're right, you don't belong here at all.
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>>142664244
No, we're just realistic. People have strengths and weaknesses. How about the interview claiming women are better for realistic stories, isnt that sexist?
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I don't get most of the posts in this thread. Why do you care if somebody's sexist or not? You're 4chan for fuck's sake.
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>>142664322
Silly anon you can't be sexist towards men. :^)
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>>142664308
They are women but why should they be the best? Nice damage control retard
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>>142664312
How can anybody post on /a/ without knowing what Princess Mononoke, Castle in the Sky or Spirited Away. This is entry level shit on par with Naruto and DBZ.
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>>142664323
Helps me release all that built up virgin rage
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>>142664133
He never implied that.

He just said men are slightly better at doing this thing and women are slightly better at doing that thing.
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>>142664293
>>142664322
good point,
but he's still using the logic to justify not hiring female directors.
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>>142664368
And yet you didn't know what Ghibli is.
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>>142664383
Yes, that's the point.
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>>142664320
yeah, I guess not.
bye.
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>>142664374
It's actually funny how everyone screams sexism towards women but doesn't think about the fact that you can just turn this around and say it's sexist towards men. What a retarded discussion.
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>>142664393
The reason I redirected to /v/ is because this is shit on par with gamergate. This is cancerous political talk. You would know that if you had been here for more than a month.
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>>142664244
>What else would I expect, trying to discuss something on 4chan?
*ftfy
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>>142662637
It's kind of interesting to see that in America, in a desperate attempt to fight for gender equality, they end up also repressing the concept of sexuality itself. Whereas in Japan, despite the shitty corporate culture for women, when it comes to the creative industries, women actually has more freedom than their counterparts in America.

>US: No, can't portray women in a sexual manner, that's objectifying! Meanwhile, despite 50 shades of grey making a lot of money in the box office, women's smut is still treated like something to be swept under the rug.
>JP: both men and women like sex, therefore both gender are free to express that shit in their works
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>>142664383
And why is that a bad?
Women are also better at handling children, so it would make sense to hire them over males in child-centric jobs. Men and women aren't identical, we all have our strengths and weaknesses. It make sense to prefer those who are better at something that dose who aren't.
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>>142664350
Have you not watched any of the shows listed in that thread? They're basically all AOTS of their respective seasons. It's just as Nishimura says, women are better at directing realistic anime, so all high school, SoL, etc. the majority of anime. Men are only good at directing fantasy.
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>>142664433
This stuff is best when its reworded
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>>142664433
in this context its actually more sexist towards women because he's using that logic to justify not hiring female directors
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>>142664433
That's technically true but nobody should pretend that the ability to abstract from concrete phenomena of a mundane daily life isn't worth more than the ability to focus on this daily life well. It's basically white collar against blue collar thinking, philosophers against people who write shopping lists.
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>>142664501
>>>/tumblr/
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>>142664448
>You would know that if you had been here for more than a month.
This coming from someone who doesn't know what Ghibli is.
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>>142662637
>>142662850

AI YO
also the best loli manga series was created by woman!
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>>142664501
He can hire the people that he thinks are best for the job.
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>>142664541
>I said it again XD
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>>142664479
The only one I had a problem with was Utusmi but now that I think about it she did excel at creating a heavy melodramatic series. I guess that's successful in its own way.
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>>142664478
but men are also perfectly capable of handling children. Excluding a man from a job like that just because he's a man would be sexist
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>>142664566
I sure did.
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>>142664561
Women love loli and shota even more than men do
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>>142664501
It's not sexist to want the best for a specific job.
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>>142664541
Not him but you're annoying to me as well just by reading your posts.
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>>142650489
>Ghibli is owned by Disney
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>>142664564
that would be fine, but he said that men are naturally better, so he clearly has a bias
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>>142664589
No one ever said anything about excluding anyone. Did you ever work in a kindergarten? Because I did.
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>>142664618
How is it my fault that he doesn't know what Ghibli is?
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>>142664528
>logic is tumblr
k
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>>142650255
>HOW DARE WE CONSIDER ANY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN
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>>142664643
He has a bias against people who he thinks are less able to do the job, it's not his fault that women are such people, it's reality's fault. Not everything in reality is politically correct.
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>>142664185
>Japan has had more female animation directors than the west
>women can't direct

>>142664468
>they end up also repressing the concept of sexuality itself
You can blame that on Christfaggotry. Thank goodness Japan had the sense to nip that crap in the bud.

>>142664564
I don't think he's actually in charge of hiring anyone, he was just giving his personal opinion on why there hadn't been any female directors at Ghibli.

>>142664607
>the best can only come from a certain sex
That's sexism.

>the best is simply the best, regardless if they tend to come from a particular sex
This is not sexism.

There's nothing wrong with being aware of trends, but holding onto them in the face of opposing evidence is ludicrous.
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>>142664589
But he's not excluding them. He's explaining why people would usually go with a guy instead of a women.
And again, if you follow your own logic you can turn it around and say he's excluding men from directing realistic films.
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>>142651114
You're so dumb, there is a sizable feminist movement in Japan. Just because there isn't an anime about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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>>142664662
are you a man?
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/v/ is cancer

/pol/ is cancer

This thread is double cancer, filled to the brim with shitty links from both.

Go away.
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>>142664671
Why do you keep on insisting that I don't know what Ghibli is? Is this literally the first time you've seen shitposting being redirected to /v/?
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>>142664714
It's about as big as the LGBT movement. In other words, not big or relevant at all.
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>>142664707
It's about directors in the Ghibli fantasy genre, not SoL or shotashit or anything else.
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>>142664730
Is there any point to this discussion if I wasn't?
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Why does /a/ always talk about the stupidest shit.
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>>142664744
>Why do you keep on insisting that I don't know what Ghibli is?
We're talking about Ghibli and you tell us to go to /v/.
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>>142664773
Because anime is basically the most retarded way to spend your time.
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>>142664773
Where do you think we are
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>>142664788
Lolita highjack. The /v/tards on are full force tonight.
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>>142664746
>not big or relevant at all.

Maybe not to /a/.

>>142664750
Well, Ghibli is on its way out, while the anime industry as a whole still offers plenty of roles for female directors. Any woman who would waste her time hitching a star to Ghibli is a moron.
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>>142664707
>the best can only come from a certain sex
No, his experience is that the best for these two specific jobs came from a certain sex. Do you even realize that your hardcore focus on the female part of the example he gave, is the actual sexism here? Just how close minded and feminists?
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>>142664816
I'm not the one who brought up /v/.
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>>142664713
ok, he's not excluding women, he's justifying hiring exclusively men.
I don't see how that changes anything though
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>>142664244
>What else would I expect, trying to discuss gender politics on 4chan?
It's like a religion with these people, they need to evangelize and share their beliefs everywhere.
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>>142664831
>Be-betsuni I want those grapes anyway
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>>142650489
That's wrong.
But hilarious.
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Filtering the word 'Female director' from now on
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>>142664854
You're defending a thread about sexism and political shit on /a/. You are /v/.
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>>142664832
>No, his experience is that the best for these two specific jobs came from a certain sex.

>the best is simply the best, regardless if they tend to come from a particular sex

I know reading comprehension isn't popular on 4chan, but please try to make an effort.
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>>142664755
then would you be ok with it if someone said that it was ok to never have men working in kindergartens because women are naturally good caretakers and men arent
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>>142664714
Nah, you're the one who is dumb for missing the very point he was talking about. The context was about the sort of feminism the west is pedalling. The sort where they scream objectifying at every media at every damn turn.

Look at >>142664202 and read the pic.
Don't confuse the western feminism nonsense with the stuff happening in asian countries where women are indeed disadvantaged so the actions actually are about fixing things like corporate culture and not bitching about fiction.
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>>142664905
You are going all out on damage control because you thought Ghibl is a game developer.
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>>142664298
In times where actual rebuttals are usually dismissed in favour appealing to emotion, it sadly is a 'truly BTFO' moment.
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>>142664855
There's no exclusively. He never said women were completely incapable of directing fantasy.
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>>142664932
Yes, that's completely right.
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>>142664924
I would be okay with it because I don't give a fuck. If 90% of the time women do a better job then just use women. Go with what gives you the best odds, don't waste time looking for a needle in a haystack just to make others happy.
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>>142664973
he didnt say that they were incapable, but Ghibli has never hired a female director, so Ghibli directors have been exclusively men
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>>142664909
What is it with liberals and trying to add their own narrative to things in order to make them fit in to their own little fantasy world?
He talks about his experience, that's it. How are you qualified to question this experience?
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>>142665052
Everything needs to be equal, even if they're the only ones that care
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>>142664924
Women can direct fantasy movies to their heart's content, just not in Studio Ghibli. It's not the same as banning them from a profession entirely.
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>>142664707
>You can blame that on Christfaggotry.
NO! You stupid fucking credulous idiot. Quit getting your fucking history from tipper threads on reddit, and breathy rants at Salon.

That's been the revisionist story in the US for the last 20 years, but it simply isn't true. Japan as a whole has always been sexually conservative. The anti-porn laws written by the Americans were simply copied over with a host of other legislation from the previous Meiji ones.

Some people try to point to the "Edo period" as an illustration of a a more sexually free time in Japanese history; but the Edo periods famed sexual openness (1780's-1850's) only occurred in the red-light district of Edo, and that's it. Definitely not Japan as a whole.
The red-light district of Edo was the only place in the entirety of Japan where prostitution was legal. Elsewhere in the country prostitution, adultery, gambling, acting, putting on plays and public drunkenness could earn you fines, imprisonment or death.
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>>142664873
>filtering based Yamada threads
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>>142665052
The point is that we're saying the same thing, fag.

Why is reading comprehension so hard for you conservatives?
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>>142664924
Yes? Women are naturally better at taking care of children, mostly because they're fucking mothers you pleb. There is no reason to not go for the majority, which are women.
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I thought miyazaki has gone on record of saying he's a feminist to the point of giving the women better bathrooms or something

Regardless it doesn't matter. People make too much an issue out of nothing. I hardly even know names of animators and directors and only recently started paying more attention that. I don't particularly care what someone is or what they feel and don't think it matters provided the show is good and the content is enjoyable
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>>142665027
sure if it was really 90% then it would be fine, but when it's 100% one gender and someone defends it by saying that the other gender simply cant do the job right, then maybe we have a problem.
I really don't care if most directors are male, but its annoying when someone claims that good fantasy directing is simply an inherent trait in men.
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>>142665153
Yes, Miyazaki isn't even feminist by western definition. It's more like some weird idea of worshiping and revering women
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>>142665148
not all women are mothers.
and fathers take care if kids too
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>>142665177
You must have grown up pretty sheltered if that's "annoying" to you. Can you look at human history and still think that men and women are equally capable in anything?
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>>142665122
We are not saying the same. You think it's sexism, I think it's a logical step.
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>>142665041
Because they haven't had the need for one. Their male directors have been able to do successful films every time. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
Not to mention the large majority of ghibli films are fantasy.
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>>142665094
I never said they were, but it would be nice if Ghibli could hire a female director too
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>>142665052
Literally everyone does that. Reality is a construct of the mind, memories are faulty, perception is inherently twisted.

That goes both for you, me, whomever you're responding there, the director and everyone else.
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>>142665272

AI YO
post full pic
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>>142665286
You made an unreasonable comparison and asked "hurr how would you feel", i.e. the retard approach to arguing.
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>>142665118
So that it would turn into a shit thread like this one? No thanks.
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>>142665305
No, I'm not a lewd individual.
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>>142665261
Its slight annoyance that can be fixed. I'm not exactly about to throw a fit here.
and yes.
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>>142665177
It's not a problem, it means someone has a preference after working in the industry for so long.
It would be problem if there were no female directors in history, but that's not the case.
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>>142665112
I was talking about America's attitude towards sexuality, which was informed to some degree by America's relationship with Christianity.

Why you decided to go on a rant about Japan is beyond me. Besides, even if Japan was sexually conservative then, you can't say the same is true now.

>>142665148
If you cared about men's rights, you wouldn't believe that bull shit.

>>142665269
>You think it's sexism, I think it's a logical
step.

Is English not your first language, anon? Be honest.
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>>142665236
Are you mentally challenged lad? Can men be fucking mothers?
The point was that women are naturally better at taking care of kids.
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>>142665321
>analogy is retard approach
glad we could have a civil discussion
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>>142665286
Why does it matter?
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women have vaginas
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>>142665374
You have to be a mother to be a caretaker?

You could've at least said "parent", which men can be.
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>>142665335
There's nothing to fix. Your "fixing" would be taking affirmative action and throwing females into directing roles just to please other people that get annoyed by it, like you, instead of doing it because they truly have worked for it.
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>>142665374
are you mentally challenged pal?
I never said men were mothers I said men were fathers. reading comprehension buddy
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>>142665380
No you retard, you made a comparison that didn't make sense and used this comparison to ask "how would you feel", which is the retard part. The comparison was just unreasonable and wrong, not retarded.
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>>142665148
>Women are naturally better at taking care of children, mostly because they're fucking mothers you pleb
They can also be the worst.
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>>142665433
they do work for it, but some men don't want to hire them since they think women can't do fantasy
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>>142665367
>>142664707
>the best can only come from a certain sex
>That's sexism
Short-term memory?

>If you cared about men's rights
No I don't care about men's rights.
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>>142665335
>and yes.
Then you don't actually know any history.
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This world is just not complete without drawings of prepubescent girls in skimpy clothing.
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>>142665148
>Women are naturally better at taking care of children
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>>142665485
What makes you think you know better than a person who works in the industry?
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>>142665452
didnt like my analogy? sorry to hear it buddy
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>>142665521
>skimpy clothing
You're so perverted anon, it's all just a coincidence.
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>>142665434
>not all women are mothers
This what you said and it is of no relevance since women are, again, better at taking care of children.
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>>142665485
It's not because they think they can't, it's because they haven't found someone who they believe can deliver a product of the same or better quality.

Honestly the anime industry is one of the least sexists when it comes to hiring people. If you are good, you'll get hired. If you haven't been hired, there's a reason for it.
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>>142665559
Sorry to see you have nothing left to say. Guess women's honor will have to be salvaged another day.
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>>142665546
I don't, but I find it hard to believe that there isnt a single woman who is good enough to direct a ghibli movie
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>>142665374
I-i can try to lactate. All you got to do is shove a 10 inch dildo up my ass.
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>>142665612
I also don't think there isn't a single such woman. The person quoted in the OP also doesn't think that, he was speaking of tendences.
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>>142665611
I make a reasonable argument, you call me retarded, I honestly don't know why I'm still responding to you
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>>142665532
Retard detected. You do realize a family, which is necessary for a good upbringing, is composed of men and women? No one ever implied that men don't have their part in raising/taking care of children. You would expect most children in a kindergarten to have a mother and a father at home.
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>>142664202
Oh shit
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>>142665612
Maybe there is, but they don't see the need to hire a new one when they staff they have can already get the job done.
Directing isn't that easy. You need a history and a reputation. A studio as reputable as ghibli wouldn't risk going for something new if don't need to.
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>>142664455
pretty much
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>>142665676
I already told you how your argument wasn't reasonable, you can't undo it by saying it is instead of refuting what I said. Of course someone who makes an "argument" like yours in the first place wouldn't understand that either.
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>>142663849
Everything about it is abnormal. How does he casually state that live-action doesn't need simplification of reality? Why is this simplification necessarily tied with idealism? What's the connection between your everyday outlook/competency at life and the ability for abstract thought? How can he be so sure that women are never idealistic or that men are never dilligent and realisitc? Like, Takahata is probably the most realistic, down-to-earth person in the entire anime industry and this dude has produced for him. Is he for real?

It just seems like he assumed 100 things at once and expected the interlocutor to agree with all of them to make his point. That's usually what I feel when reading what JP artists have to say about things.
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>>142664244

Mods please ban this SJW
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>>142665384
No response as expected
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>>142665753
here buddy, maybe this will help https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy
honestly, what are you getting butthurt about?
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>>142664244
Correct the Record please, I'd say go back to /pol/ but you probably came here to bitch after they told you to piss off
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>>142665896
>pol
please don't insult my intelligence like that
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>>142665937
>my intelligence
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>>142665874
I guess you win
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I don't understand this thread at all. It's logical to use people that have been proven to be generally better suited for said task than taking risks and eventually losing money and.opportunities. Men are known to have an overall greater physical strength and they are therefore in greater number in fields that require this. Women are known to be better at paying attention and taking care of small individuals so they are in greater numbers in fields that involve taking care of people. Do people protest about this? No. It's ridiculous to protest about something that is natural. What? Do you want to reform Mother Nature as well? That everybody be born as blobs and we can then be truly equal? Stop your bullshit. Economy and art aren't the.fields in which taking risks is an exceedingly good thing, the problem of making people redundant is too high.
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>>142665879
Why do you keep referring to your analogy when I already told you how it's unreasonable?
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>>142665973
Just as expected
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>>142659801
>>142650255
This, one of the main reasons Japan exists at it does is that wealthy japanese man dedicated themselves to purging communism in japan.
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Why do humans discriminate against lolis? When was the last time a loli directed a Ghibli film?
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>>142665984
>Do people protest about this? No
The answer is yes actually. It might be delusional bullshit but it happens more and more.
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>>142665984
But do you honestly agree with
>Women tend to be more realistic and manage day-to-day lives very well. Men on the other hand tend to be more idealistic
?

Because that's empirically, historically and biologically untrue.
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>>142666005
because it isnt, and you have your head so far up your ass that I honestly don't know how to communicate with you anymore
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>>142665984
>Do people protest about this?
Yes they do, but not in japan thankfully.
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>>142665945
Good taste so far, but I don't understand why you're posting it here.

The loli thread is over here: >>142661022
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>>142665866
>m-mods someone has a different opinion than me!! pls ban!!
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>>142666079
Yes it is, see >>142665094.
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Silly westerns taking this out of context
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>>142666061
I'll become a lolist and make sure that every single company in the world has a loli on the board of directors. And more loli representation in anime.
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>>142666039
good job
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>>142665374
>every woman is naturally better at taking care of kids, including female abusers, neglectful mothers, drug addicts, female sociopaths, and women who kill their own children

>>142665433
>instead of doing it because they truly have worked for it.

>implying Miyazaki's son worked for his directing job and it wasn't just given to him because of nepotism

>>142665485
Not the anon you replied to, but where are all these female directors who are dying to work at Ghibli?

>>142665497
>the best is simply the best, regardless if they tend to come from a particular sex
>This is not sexism.

Again, is English not your first language?

>>142665609
>It's not because they think they can't, it's because they haven't found someone who they believe can deliver a product of the same or better quality.

Ghibli is a very insular company and serves as a very poor example of hiring in the anime industry. In the whole history of the company, there has only been four different directors, with only one being a fairly new director.

If Studio Ghibli was a fairly older studio, like Disney for instance, and had never had any female directors, then yes maybe there might be some sexism involved. However, Ghibli is a studio that has had most of its films directed by one man.

Also, Nishimura has only produced two--TWO--films in Ghibli's lifetime as a film studio, he is barely qualified to say and seems to have missed the point entirely why Ghibli has had only male directors. It has nothing to do with perceived differences between men and women, or any other bullshit.

>>142665984
>muh nature
Better turn off that laptop, buddy.
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>>142665984
>It's ridiculous to protest about something that is natural.
Expressed like that, it's a naturalistic fallacy. You could only say that in cases of necessity.
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>>142666106
Because this is a political thread. Finally I can point out to the world about the injustice that lolis such as Sakura have faced until this day. Can they own property? Can they run for office? Can they vote?

This is outrageous.
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>>142666170
>every woman is naturally better at taking care of kids, including female abusers, neglectful mothers, drug addicts, female sociopaths, and women who kill their own children
No, you see this is the liberal thinking. I've noticed this before. On average/mostly/a trend does not translate into every single woman ever. I don't know why so many liberals do not understand this but it's certainly interesting.
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Ghibli have already given writing positions to females, for example Reiko Yoshida in The Cat Returns, which is a fantasy anime. Not to mention over half of their animators, who animate fantasy stuff, are female including some legendary veterans such as Atsuko Tanaka and Makiko Futaki (rip).

This dude sperging out some bullshit answer to a question he didn't want to bother with is just an anecdote. It's not actually a policy at Ghibli to neglect women from handling fantasy stuff because "they're too good at reality" (what?).
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>>142666071
>>142666091
Well shit, I guess it's been quite a long time since I've last been in the West.

>>142666076
Isn't this fact observable everyday by taking into account the gender of people that play video games and watch anime in general, but also the genres they prefer? Most girls prefer emotional drama that rely on realistic characters, this is a fact.
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I dream of a day when people can watch an anime and see a loli and judge her based on the merit of how she was written and not on the moe and/or arousal she makes them feel. One day this will be achieved.
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Women are good for being cute, 2D women that is.
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Lolism is the the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of lolis equal to those of old hags.
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>>142666388
>Most girls prefer emotional drama that rely on realistic characters, this is a fact.
I agree with what you said in>>142665984 but I don't 100% agree with what was said in the OP quote. Yes, women seem to be drawn to emotional/romantic stuff and men often enough move towards more fictional settings/ideas but I don't think that translates into women being more realistic. In fact I think men are the ones who are more realistic, these romantic/emotional examples women like are often heightened and totally unrealistic. Very much a fictional and improved version of reality, their own little fantasy world they'd like to live in. This kind of explains to me why liberal parties/policies find so much support in the female population.
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>>142666388
Considering the majority of the fanfic scene, which is the largest fan-content venue in the world, are women, then no, it is not observable.

You could also look at recent sales trends in anime where stuff like UtaPri outsells everything and Love Live has a 50% female fanbase.

So no, women aren't better at dealing with reality.
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The OldHagarchy is going to end soon enough. Mark my words.
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Old Hags would deprive lolis of this.
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The thing that gets me about these threads is that they just spiral out of control and since everyone's anonymous people get pissed at each other after half understanding half the posts they read and go off to argue about dumb nigger shit relentlessly. 281 posts in I doubt anybody has any actual idea what the fuck is actually going on in the thread anymore, and the best part is it never amounts to anything so I don't know why y'all niggers keep doing this to yourselves
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>>142666576
What do UtaPri and Love Live fanbases being female have to do with your argument? And what does your argument have to do with what he said about women being better at creating realistic, character driven stories?
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If you are not a lolist then you are part of the problem. Convert now or be branded a bigot forever.
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>>142666622
how dare you potray megucas in such a disgraceful manner
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>>142666129
I guess you think your making a logical argument, but you're not, and I'm sick of arguing with you. goodbye.
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>>142666736
His substantiation for saying that was that women are better at day-to-day lives and are more realistic people, which is flat out bullshit. You tried to argue this is true by pointing out otaku as an example of men being "idealistic" (i.e. incapable of being realistic and well-adjusted), and I just rebuked it by saying that the female equivalent of otaku is just as large as a group if not larger. Not that your post got at the meat of the issue, but it was easy to dismantle so I did it.
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>>142666844
Compared to Sakura they're nothing more than violent thugs. Sakura has a stable and healthy relationship with a lovely boy her age, she engages in a healthy school life. The megucas are all batshit insane with a million issues and a temper to boot.
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>>142666915
Tht was not me
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>>142666987
Then you weren't following the reply chain. Pay attention before posting.
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>>142650861
This guy essentially summed up why Japan won't have the same kind of feminists the west has. Because women in Japan are actually prepared to work for their prestige, and are already doing so.
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>>142666005
>told you how it's unreasonable?
You've only told him THAT it's unreasonable (>>142665452), but you've never justified that claim.

An argument from analogy is a valid form of argument, by the way.
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Could the bigots just fuck off please. Here I am trying to promote the liberation of lolis under our current systems of oppression and you faggoloids are just babbling about antiquated Oldhagarchical paradigms.
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>>142663509
>cracked.com

Don't remind me. They used to be good.
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>>142667176
Hey you loli apologist what about shota representation? I don't see a single shota running around in kodomo no jikan! Thats discrimination if Ive ever seen it!
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>>142667262
Pretty much all internet comedy sites like cracked and the onion have been bought up and turned into propaganda outlets than don't make money.
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>>142667333
Shotas are in leagues with the Old Hags. I've see the shotacon doujins you can't fool me. Although there can be shota allies like Syaoran.
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>>142667378
In the case of cracked though, it seems that it's more to do with David Wong going full retard. Maybe fame has gotten into his head. The bitchfight he had with reddit was pretty much the sort of shit he used to mock in his older articles.
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>>142650255
I think feminists and SJWs are fucking retarded, with that in mind, stop inciting culture wars, neither us nor japan give a shit
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>>142653266
Nice bait, nips are asian like the mudslimes you jerk off to
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>>142651649
>are and should typically be directed by females

you don't know what you're talking about anon-kun
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>>142664589
Just because they can do it doesn't mean a woman can't do better, is it sexist to try to get the best candidates for their jobs?
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Wouldn't lolis be better at directing anime considering that they are themselves anime?
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>>142667804
>>142667432
>>142667176
>>142666940
>>142666751
>>142666670
>>142666622
>>142666499
>>142666473
>>142666398
>>142666222
>>142666142
>>142666131
I feel disgusted knowing lolis are being exploited into sliding things that trigger you
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>>142668415
Could you rephrase that? I legitimately didn't understand what you said.
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>>142668486
Stop using lolis as spam
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>>142668555
Why? What difference does it make? At least it's not 3DPD shit like what you just posted.
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>>142668626
>What difference does it make
You're degrading lolis
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>>142668776
I get what you mean but please if you have to replay do so in sage. The sooner this thread dies the better. I mean just look at the post above yours. It's a fucking mobile poster no less.
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>>142650255
I think Ghibli could hire Junko Mizuno, she's got a nice touch.
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>>142650489
You're kidding right?
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>>142668860
I don't think mobile devices stop you from thinking, I could be wrong though
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>>142669102
Some studies I've heard about indicate lower intelligence correlating with higher mobile usage. Whether there's a direct cause going either way I dunno, and I don't know the details of the study.
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>>142669652
Nigger
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>>142664484
Absolutely madman.
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>>142650255
what the fuck
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>>142668907
no idea what I'm looking at but I like it
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>>142664244
>trying to discuss gender politics
Great job you simpering cuckold faggot. Maybe you can tip your fedora a little harder when the next social justice piggy farts in your direction. Someday you'll be laid for your efforts saving women from misogyny on a fucking cantonese urethra fishing board.
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