Since Touhou is getting so much 100% ZUN approved official material

>>142591503
>what exactly is still stopping the anime?
ZUN

maybe all the copyright rights reserved around it, althought is just a guess

>>142591522
this
ZUN doesnt want an anime

>>142591525
Copyrights? In Touhou??

>>142591522

What's the point though? He's allowing all those manga and novels.

>>142591551
thats the idea, if they dont own it at 100% they'll get less income

Clownpiece is such a semen demon
Why did ZUN allow this?

>>142591503
Isn't there already a fan-made OVA?

>>142591737
Several, all of them terrible. Now let us never speak of them again.

>>142591584
He writes those manga and novels.

>>142591503
Well, A Summer Day's Dream episode 3 has been confirmed to air in Summer, so you can get hype about that.

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>>142591503
>/a/tells me that Touhou is dying in 2012
>It doesn't
>/a/ tells me that kancolle is dying in 2015
>It doesn't
Is /a/ ever right?

>>142591760
They seem alright tho why the hate?

>>142591844

Boats are really dying though.

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>>142591879

A lot of people hate them because usually they have too much fanon crap.

>>142591915
People have been making that claim since 2013.

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I don't min all the manga and other material it is getting. Some of them are pretty entertaining. I'm glad that ZUN is blocking an anime though. I'm pretty sure it would do more harm than good in the long run. Parts of the fanbase are also terrible enough already, we don't need to add tons of anime-secondaries.

Also nobody wants a soulless cash-in anime like Kancolle had and I'm not even sure if I want my waifu to have an official voice.

I'd watch a Touhou anime if it was done in the style of bkub

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>>142591673

Because semen demons are great.

>>142592064
Who wouldn't?

>>142591844
Kancolle was a fad pushed hard by corporate marketing.

Touhou has organic doujin roots and has so much fan material built on fan material built on fan material that it really blows the mind. The chain of derivative works and sheer scope can only be compared to religions.

>>142592065
I still think her outfit is dumb and distracting, but I love semen demons and she'd be cute naked or stripped down to just tights.

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>>142592331

I didn't like her at first but now think she's pretty amazing.

>>142592283

This guy gets it. Comiket comparisons were especially hilarious.

I want to have a 4th of July cookout with Clownpiece, if you know what I mean.

>>142591782
What about the fangames that got released on consoles?

>>142592406
More like a 4th of July cuckout

>>142592402
Comiket comparisons never made sense when comiket isn't even the biggest convention for 2hu with Reitaisai existing.

>>142591782

He provides the ideas and plot base, but sure as hell is not writing them.

>>142592453
>What about the fangames that got released on consoles?

I thought some of the official games made it to console? Which fangames did?

>>142592516

Comiket execs were begging touhou to stop flooding their con for years and the moment they did and made their own cons boatfags started screaming about the death of touhou and boats being the new king.

Shit's hilarious.

Because touhou is too big. You'd have to really make something very good to not disappoint, and ZUN probably doesn't trust anyone to do that. With manga he has a huge degree of control, not so much with anime.

Let's compare it to kancolle. It's much younger and the root fanbase is tinier and much less mature, with a massive amount of secondaries. Yet the god awful anime was universally hated by virtually all of the fanbase, they pretend it never existed, etc.

Even if the touhou anime was actually decent, the expectations built around it are much higher, and therefore it would receive similar levels of backlash.

Personally, I'm tired as shit of touhou. The universe gets old fast and the girls are not particularly great. It's been going on for far longer than it deserves to, and for many years I feel it's just the shitty go-to setting for artists unless they find something more interesting to draw about. And the same applies to kancolle, though I'm fairly sure this one will die by itself in the next few years.

I hope the next thing comes around soon. Kancolle can't die soon enough and touhou needs to subside.

>>142592533
Don't know about the official games. I do think that latest fighting game is going to have a PS4 port, though.
Genius of Sappheiros and Genso Rondo got Vita/PS4 ports, respectively

>>142592555

Kancolle has literally 0 plot. It only got popular because of girl designs and WW2 nostalgia. It was literally impossible to make a good Kancolle anime unless writers ignored the game completely. And they lacked the balls to do it.

Meanwhile Touhou got popular because people loved the girls and setting. Waifubaiting and fuckable girls had nothing to do with it since ZUN's art is garbage.

It's a very different case and it would be many times easier to make a good Touhou anime.

>>142592554
>boatfags
It wasn't, it was people from outside both franchises. Stop spewing misinformation.

>>142592555
>the expectations built around it are much higher

I think it's not just that. Different parts of the fanbase would also expect different directions from the anime. There are people who'd want an action-focused anime with danmaku fights and a storyline involving some kind of incident. Other parts of the fanbase would prefer some kind of 'SoL in Gensokyo' approach.

>>142592651

Even Kadokawa itself was using it as marketing.

>>142592679
That didn't start until it exploded in Comiket. Before that it wasn't even meant to be a long lasting thing, just a little game in a mainly porn website. Then it got big and Kadokawa, but even then Kadokawa didn't pore much money into it. Kadokawa doesn't even make money from the game.

If it was directed by Rie Matsumoto and written by ZUN

A touhou anime would maybe be pretty good

kancolle is for faggots and i would kill every fan of it if i could
boat genocide best day of my life

>>142592555
I basically watch and read Touhou for the porn

>>142592734
This sort of comment always makes me laugh. The sheer butthurt over KanColle even just existing is hilarious. What's wrong, does it really bother you that much that a mecha-musume franchise is popular?

>>142592283
>Kancolle was a fad pushed hard by corporate marketing.
Holy shit this, it was suffering being a figure buyfag and getting all the stuff I wanted in limbo in the name of releasing boatshit our of nowhere, now that is mostly dead the yen went to shit and now I can't buy that much

Touhou fans are going to watch a Touhou anime, even if it's bad. A decent Touhou anime has to appeal to people who don't know much about it in the first place.

>>142592770
Whenever you see that sort of comment, always assume falseflagging by a third party that wants to watch fanbase wars.

There's no shortage of retarded touhoufags and boatfags willing to bite the bait and unleash the shitposting. As a member of both fanbases, the interaction between them is minimal and any perceived animosity is limited to a few faggots that just want to stir up shit for no reason.

>>142592828
I'm quite aware as someone from both franchises as well, I just wanted to see what retarded bait he'd come up with next.

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>>142592667

It's not even that hard to combine the two. Just look at GuP.

Aria like SoL just about doing wonderful things in Gensokyo while comfy music plays would also work perfectly.

>>142592734
I really don't understand the rage touhou and kancolle sometimes produce in some people.
I'm a touhoufag, Remilia is my waifu since 2010, but even I like some of the Kancolle character designs and don't see why I should feel any kind of negative emotions towards the franchise. Kadokawa can be pretty scummy though. Is it true that kadokawa bans the sale of kancolle fangames? I read that somewhere, but find it hard to believe.

>>142592770

Kancolle used to be a fun franchise with a lot of potential. Then Kadokawa went full jew with it.

I can't believe there are people who still play the game.

>>142592825

This. Boats anime was trash hated by fans and it still sold okay. Touhou anime would make LL tier money no matter how bad it was.

>>142592897
That's because the game hasn't changed other than improving on quality of life stuff and adding new mechanics. It's completely separate from anything Kadokawa execs feel like pulling.

I'll still say that the only possible way for a 2hu anime to work out is for multiple anime series to be made and aired at the same time, with the characters having different seiyuu for each anime.

>>142592048
>>142592283
>>142592555
>>142592644
>>142592864
>>142592897
>Kancolle
>small c

Also stop calling it a fad, the meme is getting tiring.

>>142592932
>le small c
Stop it, the meme is getting tiring.

>>142592932

Unless it stays popular for 5 years it's a fad.

And it's popularity is already like 1/3 of what it was a year ago. Game is pretty much dead. It's still going to be getting porn for years though.

>>142592978
>And it's popularity is already like 1/3 of what it was a year ago.
[citation needed]
>Game is pretty much dead.
Last event was one of the hardest and had the largest clearing rate of a final map in the game's 3 year history.

>>142591503
But there is Touhou Anime, made by ufotable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9rxpzqHujc
Let me believe that it will be released somewhere Please ;_;

>>142593021
Never ever

>>142592932
>Also stop calling it a fad, the meme is getting tiring.
It's a mobile game, they all die hard. Sure it managed to get Anime and Manga adaptations but it's popularity will die as people move onto the next game. Granblue Fantasy is sort of looking like it could take its place, and I'm sure their are some adaptations in the works for it too.

>>142593043
>It's a mobile game
Stopped reading there. Opinion discarded.

>>142592864
They do ban fan games. I always assumed it's because they fear whatever fans make would blow the shit out of their own game, because the original browser game is literal garbage, the vita port is just that, a port, same game as the browser one. And even the much better arcade game could be rivaled by fangames. It's not surprising considering the sheer incompetence of the dev team for the browser game. It has taken them 3 years to make changes that should have been made within the first year of it existing, whenever they try to implement a new feature that takes them months to make they fuck it up because apparently testing is too hard.

And I say this as someone who plays the browser game.

In short, it's the typical old japanese businessmen who probably view fans of the franchise with disgust that fear allowing fan games would cut into their profits, because they fear even amateur devs could do better than their own dev team.

>>142592932
I do think calling it a fad is stupid but your retarded >small c meme you keep forcing is even stupider. Go fuck yourself.

>>142593043
>It's a mobile game
Before you start spewing your opinions at least spend a few seconds on google.

>>142593021
Still just a fan-anime, even if made by professionals. ZUN was not involved in any way. It's just a glorified commercial and never got released outside of that one-time viewing event anyway if I remember correctly.

>>142592998

That's because only hardcore autists are left. The vast majority of accounts are inactive for months. Just take a look at rankings near the end of the month. 3/4 of accounts have 0 points.

>>142593090
>That's because only hardcore autists are left.
If that were true most of the clears would be on the hardest difficulty, which they aren't. Only a small portion of the people who did the event played it on hard, most cleared it on easy mode.

>>142593056
>>142593084

Stop being delusional. It's a mobage that's so shitty it can't be played on phones.

And most nips play mobage on PC's.

>>142592968
>>142593061
Calling it "Kancolle" is the meme.

>>142593056
>>142593084
The gameplay is equivalent to the generic mobile trash that gets shit out daily, so I hope you can forgive for not seeing the distinction.

>>142593090
Go back to learning how ranking works before you start using it as an indication of player populations.

>>142593043
>Granblue Fantasy is sort of looking like it could take its place

GBF is making 20 times more money than Kancolle ever was.

>>142592857
GuP is less a battle anime + SoL as much as a sports anime.

You've got the training/preparation, official matches, and occasional down time. Also some character growth sprinkled in.

Format really wouldn't work well for Touhou.

>>142593148
That's because KanColle doesn't have gacha.

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>>142591503

Something to keep in mind is that Zun's whole life has changed. Now that he's a Dad, I think he'll become more ambitious.

>>142593061
>They do ban fan games. I always assumed it's because they fear whatever fans make would blow the shit out of their own game.

This really confuses me.
I enjoyed some of the Touhou fangames more than the official Touhou games. I played through Labyrinth of Tohou several times because I quite like the etrian odyssey style. All it did was make me like the franchise even more even though it was not an official game by ZUN. I'm not sure if that was a good decision by Kadokawa. Some doujin-game circles are very talented and allowing KC doujin games might have helped their fanbase grow even bigger.

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>>142593107
>it was a hard event and a lot of people cleared it!
>but they did it on easy

>>142593195
Because most of the players were newfags brought in by the anime the year before.

>>142591844
2hushit is dying, not Kancolle.

Get your facts right, nerd.

>>142593148
KanColle itself discourages people from spending money on anything that isn't slot expansions, since the prices for things like resources and buckets are steep, not to mention you can get said resources and buckets by just playing every day through expeditions. It costs 900k yen to max out on fuel through the cashshop, but you can easily reach the cap in two months if you're lazy about it or a month if you're actively trying to get there. Due to that the only people who end up buying resources are RTA streamers and last-day event clear streamers who run out.

>>142593043
>>142593148
Comparing kancolle and granblue is like comparing a friendly card game between friends with no stakes attached and a massive pachinko parlor. They are so different the comparison doesn't even begin to make sense.

Both are pretty shit by the way, but at least kancolle is not a literal scam made solely to steal your money. People who play gacha games disgust me on a fundamental level.

>>142593205
>newfags brought in by the anime
Rather than newfags, they are just extremely casual. With a moderate amount of playing you can get an endgame fleet by your 6th month. 2-3 months if you play intensely. Easily never if you only play casually.

>>142592667
I'm gonna say this again, the only way a 2hu anime works will be in the form of an anthology series. Think along the line of that Batman anime: one character subjected to different interpretation and done in different styles by different studios or staff.
KyoAni can do the comedy SoL happy fluffy 2hu.
Madhouse and Bones can do the action oriented ones.
Sunrise can do Hisoutensoku.
Brains Base can focus on the jap mythos part.
Butcher can do his grim dark youkai tales.

>>142593357
You can play granblue without getting scammed by the gacha though, it's pretty easy if you aren't a retard
Most of the stuff is grinding

>>142593185
Well, just wait for a decade or two when Zun jr needs that college fund.

>>142593281

Reitaisai a week ago had 4k circles.

You fucks, neither of them is dying. Both are still going strong.

>>142591503
The touhouverse is too overwhelming right now. No matter how good anime is, the amount of people disappointed by it will be colossal.

>>142593795

You could say the same about every popular franchise. Just look at Star Wars.

>>142593395
I wouldn't count on it. There are people who barely make enough money to eat and even they spend 6k yen on Granblue gacha every month. It's a fucking money eater.

There will be the time when ZUN hits the writer's block hard that he may be done with making games, then he will have to find another way to earn money to feed his family i.e. royalties from anime adaptations and such.

If there is going to be an anime, I'd rather it be about Renko and Maribel instead of the games because everybody would want the same EoSD story again. Too bad the nips would probably want the same too. If they were going to adapt one of the games, my pick would be IN for it's abundant characters from PCB and EoSD or MoF which to me is the most isolated Touhou game from it's previous stories.

ZUN is protecting the fan community who makes PVs and fanimes. ZUN would have to go to a studio to get the anime made. If that studio makes an anime, they'll have the right to shut down all the PVs and fanimes. This will fuck everything up for the community as everyone would be too scared to make anything new.

>>142594100
ZUN doesn't make money from Touhou games, he has an actual job.

>>142594072
Wasting money on the gacha doesn't make sense when they give you a decent amount of crystals and you can ticket specific characters

>>142594198
One of the fanmade anime is basically Magical Astronomy, so there's at least some interest there.

>>142594270
It's more of the Lunarian War though. Not that I mind because I'm one of the few who likes the Lunarians and seeing them BTFO Yukari was really satisfying.

I want to fuck about 80% of the 2hus.

>>142594425
Only 80%?

>>142594477
Maybe 90%. There are a few characters I just don't like that much and I'm not huge tits guy, so a few characters are out just because of that.

>>142594234

He bought a brewery chain with his Touhou money.

Merchandise companies need to pay him if they want to make figs or plushies.

>>142593281
>2hushit is dying
When will this meme die?
Touhou isn't ZUN's main source of income, he makes the game because he enjoys making them and the only time Touhou will die is when he decides to stop making the games
He's one of the few developers not to be a complete sell-out and give into the fans and make a shitty anime for more cash, he actually cares about his series.

>>142591503
ZUN himself. Don't you know about the special that will never see the light?. I fucking hate him with a passion for that shit.

>>142595097
so basically like Scott Cawthon?. Yeah, no, he's a hack and you know it.

>>142595285
You're forgetting Scott's letting a movie of FNAF happening. And besides they're both completely different series, FNAF is an obvious cash-in series with each installment, Touhou's actually got effort put in. If it weren't it'd be a shit ton more generic at this point with fanservice crammed up the ass.

142595239
>> Don't you know about the special that will never see the light?

That's just another fan anime. Being made by professionals doesn't make it official.

>>142595352
Fucking mobile posting. How did I fuck that post up?

>>142594658
Well, at least his dreams of eternal beer has finally been answered.

It's interesting how ZUNs art isn't sexual at all, yet the fans make a lot of the girls look like absolute semen demons. I wonder how he feels about that.

>>142595495
ZUN sucks at art, more news at 11.

>>142595532
He's been improving at least, and even then his designs aren't sexual.

Which studio would you put in charge of a hypothetical Touhou anime?
By genre:
-SoL: Dogakobo.
-Action: Any mecha animation studio that has experience animating projectile based combat. Preferably drawn like Sunrise. A Touhou action anime should be all about Itano Circus with cute girls.
-Mystery: SHAFT. The Sealing Club mostly consists of talking and surreal imagery so I'd imagine this would be up their alley.

>>142595763
>Itano Circus with cute girls.

Does anything like this already exist? I really want this.

>>142595763
>>142593393

>>142595763
>sol not kyoani
With zun helping them with writing, I bet they could pull some nice shit out
Plus they could pull an action scene or two really well

>>142591503

>new 2hu title
>it's just 5-6 more myths-turn-girls for fan artists to work on

Tell me why I should bother with it any more.

>>142596695
Because it's fun

>>142591503
ZUN basicall needs full creative control, and you can't get that with anime.

>>142591844
Kancolle is dying, thank god.

It's dying much too slowly, though.

>>142591879
I only have liked one myself, since it was mostly "like canon". The one you probably know of best, Memories of Phantasm, is rather trashy and fanservicey and quite liberal. Cool fucking fight scenes and music, however.

>>142592864
I fucking LOATHE Kancolle.

Can you not see why it's fucking horrible? It's a creatively bankrupt piece of shit and the source material, the game, is trash. I do like a few bote character designs, but it's REALLY a few (the abyssals, I think they're called?) Most of the character designs are pathetic and uninspired. It pisses me right the fuck off. And of course, the "plot/setting" is nothing. I hate kancolle immensely.

I'm looking forward to the next big fad after Kancolle dies out.
The first days of a new mania are always the best ones.

>>142597658
I have seen this exact same post dozens of times before.

>>142594100
He already hit that writer's block a while ago with DDC, ZUN even admitted that game was for him just to brainstorm ideas.

Latest 2 games has basically started a whole new story arc now in the mangas and even rebooted the 3 Fairies series. There was even a new ZUN music collection the first time in years which is building even more on the sidestory lore.

>>142597723
It's most likely a /v/tard.

>>142597723
No you haven't.

But if you've seen this type of post, I wouldn't be surprised because I'm not alone/I've made it a few times myself.

>>142597742
And I don't understand this response. Like, whatsoever. Complaints about your sailor uniformed girls with boat parts lazily put on them, or your shit tier strategy gameplay indicate nothing about whatever board I'm "from". Furthermore, this is /a/.

>>142594198
I don't want EoSD.

I'm still mad that one OVA series gave the thing three -- THREE episodes.

>>142597784
>>142597658
Are you frustrated you favorite 2hu artist moved from shitty overdone 2hus to shitty overdone boats or something?

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>>142592387
>those thighs

>>142597855
Not the same anon, I am ;_;

>>142597855
No, I just really don't like kancolle. I actually am barely a fan of Touhou and only recently got into it at all. I've been bitching about kancolle since it was made.

It's a massively popular thing that has no imagination and is bad. Of course I hate it. I don't hate things LIKE it (my favorite franchise is Strike Witches for god's sake), I hate IT.

>>142592495
OH SNAP

>>142597918
>my favorite franchise is Strike Witches for god's sake

Oh, I can see why you're frustrated now. Your own fad franchise died out and now you're mad at the fad replacing it.

Well, get over it.

>>142596550
I feel like Vivid Red probably had that, but Vivid Red kind of sucks.

Strike Witches has air battles but no Itano Circus.

>>142597974
If that was my complaint I'd say so, but Strike Witches has always had material made for it and was never mega popular so why would I be annoyed that it's relatively hushed now? Besides, it's getting an anime series for my favorite JFW, so I couldn't be happier.

You're trying to avoid criticism to this loathsome, indefensible franchise. I've noticed since you keep trying to assume I only hate it because I like something else and haven't addressed any of my very legitimate complaints with the IP.

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2hu is only good for pic-related. Nothing else matter.

>>142594369
>Lunarian War anime
I didn't know it exists.

Also a fan of Lunarians. Doesn't matter now though. Hecate is the strongest Toohoo now.

>>142598281
>>142594369

Is it that one of the first attempts with OC Donutsteel Kaguya's dad? Man, that was a trainwreck.

>>142598020
Strike witches is the better franchise, I'll give you that. Didn't know it was getting a new anime.

Honestly, I was not defending kancolle because I agree with the game being utter trash and the "plot" not existing. The complaints about the designs being bad are completely baseless though. Hell, Fumikane designed some of the best girls and he's the Strike Witches designer. I just don't think it's worth hating on it more than you'd hate on other franchises simply because it's popular.

In the end, fanartists make of the franchise whatever the fuck they want. The plot and original game don't matter for this. What fanartists take are the characters and the setting to create their own thing, and as far as that goes there is barely any difference between Strike Witches, Kancolle or even Touhou, beyond your personal preference.

I for one just roll my eyes and scroll past every time I see fanart of either touhou or Kancolle. Can't even fap to the porn excluding my two or three favorite artists because fapping to the same character so many times ends up being jarring. But I don't hate either franchise just because I think they're overdone. Not their fault fanartists love drawing the same thing over and over and over.

>>142598406
Yeah, that was on the level of some sonic fan animu.

>>142598452
I just think the industry is better off with less shameless cashgrabs. And while I'm aware Fumikane's done work on kancole I don't really like any of his designs for them either. Frankly I just think the shit's fundamentally flawed, generally not trying hard enough with making designs very distinctive.This is why I like the abyssals, which are all brimming with imagination.

You should probably not completely dismiss Touhou, however. That franchise is quite good on several levels and it makes perfect sense why so many like it.

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I always feel odd that the only other franchise that has consistent bloomer shots other than Touhou is the World Masterpiece Theater series

Bloomerservice is a really niche thing, I suppose.

>>142598532
with touhou it's pretty obviously not "service", though; they're just practical, long bloomers that are not meant to induce any kind of arousal

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>>142591879
>>142591737
There are 3 main known animations and a bunch of other minor efforts.

Fantasy Kaleidoscope by Manpukujinja, mostly well known for some nice uniform designs and animation and some really nice OP/ED sequences and a pretty regular release schedule.
https://youtu.be/i5CoN6tBP8w
Kind of wasted as they can't write for shit, does nothing new, it aims to be a recap but turns into a generic action flick with some of the cast completely out of character. It has really random out of order pacing for the stories too and is crammed with tits and the bad kind of fanservice when they already lack time to tell a different story. It comes out with subs only and no speech.


Summer Day's Dream by Maikaze was the first one and the one most well known.
https://youtu.be/-ctujLIA8kU
It uses professional seiyuu with the likes of a underage Aoi Yuki as Youmu, Rie Tanaka as Sakuya etc. It does do it's own little story thing as well but it's not a particularly interesting one. It can be a bit meme'y sometimes but has a good laid back feel to it.
Some consider it as a bit bad spirit to use professionals in a amateur work and it kicked up a stink because of it. First episode was a bit bleh but 2nd episode and 2.5nd episode had fantastic animation. The main issue with this OVA is it was supposed to be a 3 ep series but it's been over 8 fucking years and they've still yet to announce the release of the final ep.

Sealed Esoteric History is the newest one by a Chinese group called Kyoto Fantasy Troupe.
https://youtu.be/t55SXXCzG-U
It has a more serious approach towards the series lore and mostly focuses on backstories. Some pretty good animation and music as well. Uniquely uses the music collection side stories as a framing device.
What some people don't like however is it has original donut steal characters which rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Also some don't like the overly serious tone which can feel odd but isn't really out of place.

>>142598671
>It comes out with subs only and no speech
it is, however, fandubbed and the fandub's pretty decent

Otherwise, I agree with the things said in this post.

>>142598575
That's also the case with WMT.

I have no idea why ZUN likes bloomers so much.

>>142598746
I really do think it was just to avoid fanservice. There are very few characters in Touhou that, in the source material, might raise your eyebrow in regards to sexuality. Like, just Nue, Clownpiece, and arguably the moon rabbits from LoLK (see-through bloomers and midriff exposure)

>>142598452
>because fapping to the same character so many times ends up being jarring

I've been fapping mostly to the same 2hu for several years now and I'm not getting tired of her.

>>142598794
I'm curious, who's the hu?

>>142598817

Not him, but see >>142598243

In fact, tomorrow is going to be her big day too.

>>142598786
>see-through bloomers

What?

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>>142598842
Seiran. Look closely.

>>142598520
>You should probably not completely dismiss Touhou, however. That franchise is quite good on several levels and it makes perfect sense why so many like it.

I was a fan back in the day. Just got tired of it, since I'm not that fond of the setting or characters and I've seen them too much.

>generally not trying hard enough with making designs very distinctive

About this however, you're objectively wrong. If the game's trying to do anything very hard, it's making the designs unique and distinct from each other, because that's what it thrives on. The literally who girls that look a lot like everyone else in their class get ignored. The flashy, unique ones get a ton of popularity and sell merch. And kancolle has a lot of these, that's why it doesn't fade into oblivion.

You're just blinded by hate, but whatever, it's your opinion and you're free to think that way.

>>142598794
Lucky you, endless fapping material.

>>142598879
Uh, that doesn't look see through to me.

>>142598879
Is she wearing socks over socks?

>>142598739
Only upto ep 3 it had a very talented fandubber who did everyones voices almost single handedly then dissappeared.

After that the fandub hasn't been that great with the various amateurs.

I used to be a passionate fan of Touhou around five years ago. And by that, I mean I would get into arguments and shit.

Now, with the series in declining popularity and ZUN granting my wish for the direction Touhou should go to, I don't care about it anymore.

My rage is now against those other world fantasy stories popping up like mushrooms.

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>>142598886
>you're objectively wrong
Seeing as I can't tell about 20 boats apart I really don't believe so, and in fact it's what you said there -- that they HAVE to survive on unique designs -- that makes me hate it more. They have dropped the ball where the ball has been easily picked up by other franchises without a second thought. The use of "boat parts" with most of the designs is also some of the most lazy garbage I have ever seen.

This isn't blindness. I don't LIKE hating things. I give pretty much everything a chance and evaluate it as I see it. I've even admitted it's not all bad, but since it's mostly bad and this is the fucking SELLING POINT, I have pretty much nothing but contempt after review.

>>142598894
You're not looking close enough.

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>>142598985
That is not see through. It just has a sheer outer layer to it.

>>142598817
Remilia

I know it's absolute mainstream taste, but she's hitting all of my fetishes and has lots of great porn.

>>142599020
No man, it's transparent.

>>142591503
Imagine a Touhou anime animated by either KyoAni or Ufotable with Miyazaki as the director.
It could be a comfy, two cour show about the human shrine maiden Reimu and her adventures in Gensokyo.
It wouldn't necessarily have to focus on just SoL or curb stomp danmaku battles, it would be a seamless mix of both.

>>142599016
Ah, I see it now.

You really gotta look hard for this stuff.

>>142598980
>those other world fantasy stories popping up like mushrooms.

Those things where the MC starts in 'our' world and then gets transported into a fantasy AU because he died / ate the magic mushroom / his game world became real?

Yeah, those things are starting to be everywhere.

>>142599120
Yeah, that shit.

>>142598985
>I can't tell 20 boats apart from a franchise I loathe with a passion

Well duh. With all that vitriol you're spewing I doubt you've looked too much into it. I don't understand how you can hate one franchise so much specially by hating on aspects that are almost exact replicas of a franchise you claim to love. Ignoring it I could understand, but wholehearted hate? Not so much.

Also cute 2hu, is that a new one or something?

>>142599186
I don't see it as replicas, though. I don't have this problem with other series. To use an example of a series I DON'T like in a similar vein: Upotte. I don't like that thing, but I can tell all the characters apart and there are a lot of them. Not as many, yeah, but a lot.

>Also cute 2hu, is that a new one or something?
Yes, from the latest game.

>>142599055
>Ufotable
I don't think Ufo would get the "feel" right, speaking as someone who knows jack-shit about 2hu other than a few choice doujinshi, and a fan of Ufotable.

>>142599186
Seiran, she's the Stage 1 boss of the latest game, Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom.

Part of the Lunarian rabbit invasion force you meet early on attempting to terraform Gensokyo.

>>142599240
>>142599055
ufotable were the ones who made that Touhou short >>142593021 linked.

>>142591584
That's the thing: once he allows an anime, it becomes the definitive secondary work for the total mass market (of which even a powerhouse like touhou is only still a subset of) of anime watchers.
It would signal the very end of Touhou philosophically, as it would set up a real hard-and-fast canon outside of the games and the (honestly purposefully sort of vague) manga/novels on the setting of Gensokyo.

>>142599334
Thanks, I hadn't seen that.

>>142599393
So that is why he should allow multiple anime series airing together so the effect would spread out and weaken.

>>142599514
But having a franchise compete with itself seems questionable to me.

>>142599393
>projecting your irrational hate of 'secondaries' onto ZUN

>>142599393
I don't think that's quite it. The canon is very clear beyond the debatable relevance of the PC98 years, and while an anime series could arguably dominate the vision of the franchise I don't think that is exactly what's holding ZUN back. The franchise as it is is already easily skewed in perception by the countless derivative works it has spawned, from porn, to music videos, to memes, to actual animated works, to other games, to manga, and so on. It is VERY easy to not "get" Touhou and become a secondary fan of it. The games are always there to show you the truth of things, and they're good (as well as the official written works), but you don't HAVE to play/read and ZUN doesn't push the stuff very hard because that's the way he is.

If he could run an anime production with an iron fist, I have a feeling he might, but at base that's incredibly difficult, and add in the product and merchandising deals that studios and producers are allowed and you get a royal fucking mess. The canon has to stay very pure, and to do that it needs ZUN, and an anime would start taking Touhou out of his hands and REALLY fucking things up because it would confuse everything really and truly. As it is right now, it's very easy to find what "real Touhou" is, after all.

>>142599555
And that's perfectly fine because it's Touhou. It wouldn't work with any other franchise.

>>142599393
Dude you could just have akyuu or kiene tell it as a story of past events then Kiene would eat the history of it in the last episode.

It is "easy" to make Touhou anime.

Just get different studios do 45 minute long OVAs each. Each could be any genre with any story and characters as long as it is Touhou. So each studio could focus on their strenghts.

There could be action, SoL, trippy stuff, scary stuff, etc..

>>142592065
Those outlines make it even more erotic..

I find it harder and harder to get excited for 6-7 new girls with every new game.
Am I the only one who'd like ZUN to build up on existing characters a bit more? He obviously would still include new girls, but maybe also have Reimu meet some of the older characters on the way who are investigating the incident by themselves? Or someone like Remilia or Satori could start another incident, I don't know.

>>142599568
You're the one projecting, dumbass. The primary work is and has always been the games (which have as much plot as a lengthy restaurant menu). Everything else is a secondary work.

>>142600796
Read some of the extra material, the games themselves are almost all just focused on resolving incidents.

That said, surprisingly Reisen of all character experiences tons of character development throughout the "series".

>>142602928
>Read some of the extra material

I have read most of it and realize that they flesh out some of the characters, but when he keeps adding 6-7 new girls with every game some girls just have to get left in the dust and never get any real development. Maybe it's just me though, most fans don't seem to have a problem with that.

>>142603193
Nah I kind of have a problem with it. Kind of. Most minor characters don't register with me anyway, but the ones I like that are less known (like Ringo and Seiran, Raiko, and the first few bosses of DDC) are probably pretty much never going to get more exposure. Stage 4/5 bosses, final bosses aside, are basically the only characters you can ever expect to see somewhat often. 5 more than 4, too.

I think it's kind of too bad, but at the same time there's so much non H doujinshi and quite a bit of it is enough to satisfy my desires.

>>142597855

Almost all of them went back to 2hu already.

UnderTale is better.

>>142604798
Call me when Bomber Grape will get back to it.

>>142591503
An Anime would kill touhou's one thriving trait, which is misinterpreted characters personalities

>>142606146
If it's just one, yes.

>>142606146

That's already impossible with all the manga around.

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Silent Sinner in Blue is really fun.

It also has Youmu in it, so my opinion is biased.

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>>142606609
Youmu doesn't even do shit in that or Cage in Lunatic Runagate besides thoroughly disappointing Yuyuko by being a dork.

So nothing has changed even with modern Youmu really...

>>142606957
It's more than what I get from the main games, so I'll take it.

>>142607022
She was a playable character in Ten Desires for what it's worth.

And she still got humiliated by Yuyuko anyway.

>>142599393
>e, it becomes the definitive secondary work for the total mass market (of which even a powerhouse like touhou is only still a subset of) of anime watchers.
>It would signal the very end of Touhou philosophically, as it would set up a real hard-and-fast canon outside of the games

See: All these secondaries who bring up the Kancolle anime in any Kancolle thread

>>142592453
You could always have done that meanwhile you didnt asked money for it, but you are able to sell them.

IE. When the smash 2hu modders were asking for money while developing.
Or any kickstarter/crowfunding etc 2hu project.

But you can sell your fangames once done.