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Is this the closest this children's show has gotten to feeling

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Is this the closest this children's show has gotten to feeling like an actual standard anime?
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>>142093717
All anime is a children's show.
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>>142093717
>feel like an anime

I bet you're one of those people who try to say RWBY, SU, and Korra are anime
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>>142093717
yamero with that "satoshi" wtf
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>>142093717
>Satoshi
It's ASH goddamn it
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fuck is this
fuck is that
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ash you broke her heart you heartless asshole
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>>142093762
/thread
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>>142093886
ash doesn't give a shit about anyone, he leaves people and pokemon forever and I bet they miss him alot.
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>>142093886
implying
>gets mad at your crush for being a little bitch and throw snowballs at him
>storm off and act all pissed off
>snowstorm kicks up
>pretend you don't care when everyone wants to go look for him but lose composure in like 3 seconds and go
>can't find him
>start crying and blaming yourself
Ash has her around his finger and he doesn't even know it.
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>>142093717
>it's a /vp/ shilling their low tier cartoon on /a/ episode
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>>142094174
It's just the shitposter.
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Is this after failing a league match?
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>>142094242
angst over not being able to control greninja fusion before and during the 8th gym
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>>>/vp/26491924

Reminder that this is the kind of idiot we can find on /vp/.
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>>142093717
>Yelling to you're waifu
ISHYGDDT
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>>142094242
After not being able to control the frogs mega evolution
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>>142093762
Hentai is also anime.
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>>142094406
Not even watching it because ash will fail as usual, but I love lurking for serena art
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>>142093762
>what are adult cartoons
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>>142094798
>ISHYGDDT
Somehow this meme became old and I didn't even notice.
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>>142094798
>you're
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>>142093717
I expected a confession not garbage drama
>>>/vp/
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>>142093717
Ash couldn't get it up?
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Gotta say, the production quality for this has improved drastically since its early days.
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>>142094798
>>142095013
>ISHYGDDT
>2011+5
I shiggily doo da diggily day
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>>142093717
No. The early series was actually fun and creative this is just garbage romance shit with the back drop of a generic show designed to sale video games. Pokemon is dead and hasn't be relevent anime-wise as well as video game-wise for nearly a decade now.
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>>142093717
>>142093738
Top Serena, she's not going to Aloa region
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>>142093717
You stupid fucks, this isn't going to go anywhere and anyone with an ounce of intelligence realises that.
Ash should have won the indigo league and then given us a new hero for every generation, like precure but no, we have to follow this retard as he does exactly the same thing every fucking area.
I honestly wish Serena would win the Ashbowl because then it'd finally be over and we could have a new protagonist
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>>142095056
Hello shitposter.
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>>142095212
>>142095245
My sides
https://www.change.org/p/pokemon-bring-serena-to-the-alola-region-with-ash
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>>142093717
I'm impressed. This is almost like how he acted when he lost against Ritchie in the first league. I thought they forgot how he used to be a bratty overconfident but lovable shitter
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>>142095364
Gonna have to agree. His argument is retarded, but not his emotions on the scene.
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>>142095364
That wasn't the argument. The argument was "good animation", not about style nor emotions. XY destroys all previous season. That's it. End of the line. You're just moving goalposts like the retard that cannot make the difference between animation and direction.
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>>142095404
gonna go with dawnfag on this one. Would say misty, but those people can't possibly still exist.
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>>142093717
>>142093738
When are they getting married?
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>>142095465
>more goalpost moving
>grasping at straws THIS hard
Kek
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>>142095465
>right art direction

you just said it was the direction though. What does that have to do with the animation?
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>>142095478
Never because Ash will leave Serena like he always does with his pokemons when he changes regions
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>>142095487
He's just a retard. He cannot tell the difference between all the components of animation, and he believes that the director is in charge of the animation.
He's just a shitposter that doesn't know shit and will try trashtalk into having the last word like the underage tard that he is.
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>it's ash angsting over being a fuck up episode
Just get to the fuckin league.
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>>142095322
They are so desesperate holy shit
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>>142095548
>Animation is the art of making something move.

Agreed. Now define what direction is and let's see if we can agree, because I think this is where we differ.
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>>142095465
Well, that statement's not wrong. If only you hadn't proved yourself to be a complete retard before it.
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>>142093717

Get fucked Serena, Tripokalon is shit anyway.

Also Ash confirmed an abusive boyfriend.
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>>142095580
Oh yeah, I've been devastated by your self-sufficiency and your audacity to impose your views on others despite being a complete idiot with ABSOLUTELY NO knowledge of what you're talking about.

Seriously, stop, this is getting painful to see.
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>>142095637
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>>142095637
Aww, you're trying so hard.
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>>142095637
You didn't have a question. You said something about good animation, which I never brought up. Actually, you'd be the one answering a question with a question, but that's not really the point. I'm just trying to understand what you mean is all. But if you're going to get aggressive than nevermind, there's not much point.
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>>142095628
>>142095637
>Trying to use "big" words to sound more intelligent

And here we have an underage b&. inb4
>No I'm not ur dumb for calling them big words
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>>142093738
>>142093717
>What could you possibly understand
From a meta perspective, he has a point. I don't know what sort of time and retcon shenanigans go on in this show, but this guy has been competing for 20 years now with varying degrees of success, but he has a vast amount of experience compared to her. She really can't possibly begin to comprehend what it must be like him to fail over and over.

Of course, who cares because there is no such thing as character development where the lead's status quo behavior is necessary for anything to make sense. The guy has pretty much lived multiple lifetimes worth of adventures.
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>>142093717
He's still a bitch I see.
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>>142095119
Looks like a typical live thread on /a/.
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>>142095706
>"self-sufficiency" and "audacity" are "big words"
Who's the underage around?
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>>142095625
What even happened with that plot?
Did she lose?
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>>142095744
>>142095706
Not sure if sarcastic or just stupid.
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>>142095752
Yeah. She lost because the plot called for it.
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>romantic chemistry
>ditches her like all the other girls around the world

Ash prefers brock after all
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>>142095767
>/v/
>calling any other board on /a/ for being bad
Pot calling kettle black.
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>>142093762
First post best post
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>>142095802
on 4chan I meant.
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>>142093886
He actually fixed it later at the end.

For the record I feel like this thread was made just for shitposting.
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>>142095761
You're trying to give me sass about not being confident just because I want to focus on the point I asked you about. "Good" animation is not my concern.

>>142095761
>Why don't you say something about the guy throwing insults everywhere?

>Why don't you say something about the guy throwing insults everywhere?
It would only escalate it, I can tell he's the type to multi-quote and try to take on two at once. It would only further shit up the thread, but that's already happening right now so I'm just going to stop unless you want to discuss what I asked you.
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Why can't you retarded shippingfags stay on /vp/ where you belong.
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>>142095767
Nice bait man.

But /a/ is not as bad as /v/. When an episode for something comes out theres a chance it's a good thread unlike repetitive shitposting and false flagging about tumblr, Twitter and "shills" that is /v/.
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>>142095838
>>142094217
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>>142095792
more like cock
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>>142095802
we argue but we do it half-heartedly now. There's no passion in it anymore, and people are only elitist ironically. Here you guys actually care, and it's great
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>>142093717
I just can't think of Ash as a human being anymore.
He's just a nonstop device for promoting the games, always will be.
Even this 'development' looks hollow. It's just gunna reset and he'll go through the exact same trials all over again.
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>>142095871
Passion is gone.
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>>142095871
Of course, Anthony Burch, of course.
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>>142095838
guy linket this thread in the /vp/ one, they told him to fuck off, neither /vp/ or /a/ wants him, he's just one sad mentally ill shipper just ignore him and sage
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>>142095761
I'm not insulting you. I'm calling you out for being a retard that talks about shit he doesn't know about and shitposts when he's not happy for being told that he's wrong. That's a fact, and only the truth hurts.
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>>142095881

He literally did that in that same episode, check the other wemb in this thread.

He can't develop, and even if he does for an arc (god those final DPPT arcs were so good) he is always bound to "reset", his rivals, his pokemon and even companions (sorry Serena fags) will always rotate.

The anime is fun I guess to catch from time to time, and specially near the leagues.


Dawn is still better than Serena
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>>142093738
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>>142095925
I don't even think he's a shipper, he just shit posts.

If it is who I think it is, he spams /qa/ with threads about thread spams in /vp/ when it was revealed that he's the one that makes them for fuck knows what reason. Basically, he false flags.
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>>142095881
>that same episode featured flashbacks to the very moment ash decided to become a pokemon trainer
>fusion literally only he is capable of has already allowed him to take down the champion

It's okay to believe anon.
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>>142095970

That is straight DBZ stuff, If he finally wins the league with this bullshit it would only be fair to compensate for how he lost against Tobias in his best run.

I wonder if it will transition to the next region or if it will be swept under the rug (like Zygarde most likely lel).

I guess it depends if it is a new mechanic for the new gen, which I hope not because come on....
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>you can live forever and you will still never see you ship OTP come true

I wonder how many faggots have died knowing Ash x Misty will never happen
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>>142095965
so
>inciting intra-4chan raid
right?
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>>142096025
>having an OTP that gets most of its material from the dub

they deserve it
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>>142096025

>being like 40 years old
>still having a shitty Kanto OTP

They had it coming.

>tfw favorite girls were May and Dawn and I never shipped them with Ash

Felt good.
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>>142096044
If it's the guy I think it is then yeah.
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>>142096025
>Ash x Misty will never happen
Try Ash x Lorelei /ss/, i'm fucked.
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>>142095440
Ohohohoho i wish i was as pure and ignorant of fandoms as you are!
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>>142095792

They don't even have romantic chemistry. They interact less than Ash and every other girl, and the closest thing they have to a dynamic is the inspiration angle that was pulled a whopping 3 times in 120 episodes. The ship is still completely one sided, and there is nothing particularly compelling about it other than the mere fact or premise of Ash getting a girlfriend. The ship exists because Serena's crush is canon, not because they're particularly good together. Any of the other girls would do just as well or better in this regard, except maybe Iris.
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>>142093717
The characters are all garbage especially Ash whose bland as fuck good guy that doesn't care about anything but battling and then butt fuck his pokemon afterwards. The original series of the anime was more standard anime than this horse shit.
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>>142096076
>"favoring" basic girls from a children's show because of their "character"
>not just rooting for the girl most likely to get your childhood protagonist some pussy

I would be laughing at how sad I am if you weren't even sadder. I can't you watch pokemon and take it seriously
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>>142095867
brock cock
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>>142096164
you'll call me a serenafag, but I still see it worse to be holding onto a ship from, what, the early 2000s? And I'm pretty sure Misty hasn't appeared since. Just think about that for a bit.
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>>142096149

You are rooting for a character from pokemon to get pussy. When it was clear from the start he only wants to have a good time with his pokemon.

Only girl he ever showed interest into and it was more of comic relief was a character of the day way back in Kanto.
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>>142096145
>Dawn and May on first place
>Undesired: old age
Autistic indeed.
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>>142095722

He's right that she can't understand, but she's right that sulking isn't like him and won't get him anywhere.
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>>142096164
>I don't ship, but they're not nearly as bad as you autists, who actually started a petition for Serena to stay with Ash.
They make one every year to bring Misty back and this has been going on since Misty left. Not to mention everything they talk about came from the dub. They're worse.

In a way Serena's actually makes sense just because the new girl looks similar to Serena and that isn't something fabricated by a foreign dub.
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>>142096145
>the /vp/ anime general made this chart

one literally retarded dutchfag does not represent the entire general
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>>142096215
Those facts don't make you way more depressing. You watch pokemon. And take it seriously.
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>>142095761
yeah, that's not a question
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>>142096265

You are literally posting in /a/ and talking pokemon with me about it.
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>>142096299
the difference is I didnt waste my time with what is probably hundreds of team rocket rehash episodes
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>>142095722
>I don't know what sort of time and retcon shenanigans go on in this show
He's still 12. hundreds of episodes worth of shit have happened in less than a year. Go figure.
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>>142096289
I don't mean animation wise. The script was altered in a way that made the movie seem more about Misty liking Ash than it really was.
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>>142096265
That's funny because he always says we are underage for enjoying the romance subplot when we throw occasionnal good-humored spikes while pairing Satoshi with a shitload of side characters, even having Alan going faggot for Satoshi. We're just having fun over the anime, and this guy takes it so fucking seriously.
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>>142095722
Those lifetimes don't exist because then he would be older. He doesn't even have over a year of experience.
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>>142096346
I didn't understand most of that but okay
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>>142096331

Good for you

>>142096400

She was a qt
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>>142096346

>good humored spikes
you mean cringey fanfics

>pairing Satoshi with a shitload of side characters
you mean screaming SHITPOSTER at anyone who does this, jokingly or not

i know what goes on in that rancid shitheap you call a general
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>>142096400
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>>142096130
They interact just fine considering it's a four-man group. The whole inspiration then gets used a lot in romance anime and it comes during Serena's goals often. With Ash they occur less often but happen in key points. When things go bad it's Serena who gets him out of it.You also had stuff like XY059 that actually tied in to the next episode. With Ash it doesn't come up as often but the stuff is there especially when you consider Ash's character over the years. Even last episode you had >>142095821.
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So is he still on that massive win streak? I stopped watching just before XYZ for reasons, but I was considering catching up.
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>>142096379
Okay. In short, there is a romance subplot on-going with Serena having a one-sided crush on Satoshi (think of it just like your average girl from your average haremshit) and it's new (plus it has the osananajimi flag) so it's fun and we go full fun on it. But we're also exaggerating the reactions of certain side characters just like when the current rival called Alan/Alain got very excited when facing Satoshi in the Mega battle and we're joking saying that Alan is going homo for Satoshi (after all, he's the MC).

I mean fuck, it's literally all we can talk about. It's not like there's anything interesting to talk about when it comes to Pokemon overall.

>>142096418
Sure, sure. I see that you're the "no fun allowed" type. What else the fuck could we talk about when it comes to this anime? Just like I said, you're taking this shit too seriously. Get that stick off your ass.

>>142096442
We've already been over this.
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I don't care about amour or shipping or arguments right now because I'm hyped especially since its league season now
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>>142096414
>not even trying to deny it

Ouch, the story just keeps getting worse
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>>142096460

Would there be anything amiss if this exact situation happened with Clemont? No? Then it's not romantic chemistry.
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>>142096477
>dat Brock's face
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>>142096506
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>>142096473
He was up to a couple weeks back.
Ice leader fucked him over good even with the anime only powerup thing.
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>>142096525
>>142096506
What a faggot he was.
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>>142096494
There clearly would.
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Don't forget it, guys
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>>142096480
>I see that you're the "no fun allowed" type.

what the fuck are you talking about? i'm describing the thread, not saying that's how it should be. your autistic overexplaining shows how full of shit you are anyway, even to people who don't browse the threads.
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>>142096477
Ash behaves the same with everyone except Serena.
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>>142096557
He was a clown, Brock > Ash/Misty
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>>142096555

Clemont giving Ash the same words of encouragement and Ash thanking him for it would be nothing romantic. None of Ash's interactions with Serena go beyond platonic friendship.
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>>142096608
I suspect it's that one autist from /qa/ making these threads again.
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>>142095039
Ahhhh summers back
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>>142096608
/vp/ doesn't do this. It's just the shitposter trying to force his agenda..

>>142096606
If you actually described the thread, you wouldn't be putting judging expression on it that showed how biaised you are. Better luck next time, faggot.
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>>142096671
>>142096657
these posts trying to "guess" who's behind what are quite possibly the cringiest a post can get. There's like 3 others up there too. Acting like you know what's happening behind the scenes on 4chan is the newest thing you could do on this website.
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>>142096656
Clemont has and Ash doesn't pay attention to them. Hell, XY059 was in itself more than just platonic friendship.
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>>142096696
>cringe
And you don't belong on this board.
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>>142096588
What is there to remember? He was sick in an earlier season and kept blushing during it as well, it has nothing to do with the girl.
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>>142096721

I agree. This thread feels like summer
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>>142096671

>you wouldn't be putting judging expression on it

actually i would given the actual atrocious state of the thread. you're the one being insincere by omitting, whitewashing and outright lying about its bullshit. there is no fun, there is just screeching at anyone who doesn't adhere to amourfag/threadfag autism.
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>>142096687
Why not with Dawn?
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>>142096145
>But what you desire in real life should also be reflected on fictional women
Don't even know how to react to shit this fucking stupid sometimes.
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>>142096743
That was stun spore. That one was straight up Japanese cold.
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>>142096774
that's the only slightest hint I'll give you, and only because it's in the actual dialogue and not some bullshit interpretation of the scene.
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>>142096798
>That one was straight up Japanese cold.
A fever makes your bodyheat rise, the fact that this goes over your head is quite astonishing.
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>>142093717
I don't think I could name a single Pokemon after the first 151.
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>>142096770
Coming from someone who tried to piss off people on purpose by cherrypicking moments in the show to push "Citron/Serena" as canon, I find you to be quite the hypocrite. The pairings are here for fun (at least, in my case) and recent discussion has been about nothing but the actual episodes and not Amour stuff.
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>>142096792
>Reminder

we didn't care about your butthurt vendetta the first time and we don't care now. fuck off.
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>>142096853
Are you me?
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>>142096831
What are you even talking about? All I was saying was that the other time he was sick was with Stun spore. I wasn't saying anything else.
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>>142096792
You sound like you're from /vp/ desperately trying to put the blame on one "fag" you guys are aware of
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>>142096883
>>142096896
yep, confirmed from /vp/. Back to your board.
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>>142096872
I hate whoever tried to push "Serena/Citron" because it wasn't for fun, it was just made to attack people.
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>>142096687
How is it headcanon when Ash invites Serena to go with him when he doesn't invite anyone, that whole gift-giving scene, and when he gets sheepish with her?
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>>142096883
Here, you can have this.
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>>142093717
What made him emo?
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>>142096853

>implying i'm whoever the fuck you're talking about

case in point. all you do is accuse people of being some shitposting boogeyman instead of engaging their posts. your butthurt is palpable.

>nothing but the actual episodes and not Amour stuff
my fucking sides. ash and greninja fucking perfected their super saiyan form and 99% of the discussion was about the fucking snowball scene. your head is so far up your ass you're actually eating up your own bullshit.
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>>142096945
No shit, thats the point. I was able to confirm immediately afterwards you're some control freak from /vp/. No one gives a shit what screencaps you have from /vp/. Go back there and fuck off.
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>>142096961
I like how you try to cherry pick while acting like that's not how romance subplots start. You dig pretty low.
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>>142096924
No, I'm pretty sure I had fun. If you believe people ship it based off the cooking scene you deserve what you get.
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>>142097008

the only one making /vp/ look bad is you
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you still haven't learned
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>>142097008
>reading comprehension

Glad to see you confirm yourself what i'm accusing you of. Go defend /vp/'s reputation somewhere where people actually give a shit. Your entire board is an embarrassment and you should stay there indefinitely
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>>142096948
Four consecutive defeats
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time to make this thread worthwhile
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>>142096971
So you admit to going on /vp/? Nice. Now, you'll understand that we talked as much as possible about the Greninja scene, but human drama is still another worthy subject in this episode. JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE SHOULDN'T SPEAK ABOUT IT, YOU SELF-ENTITLED IDIOT.

Here, I wrote it in nicely uppercase letters so that you can (hopefully) finally understand that we don't want you here if you're just going to spread your agenda. You don't like the anime? Fine, fuck off from the threads.
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>Has entire board to spam their shit
>Still spills to the other boards
Worse than /mlp/ when is /vp/ getting nuked?
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>>142097023
>people ship it
It's dead, Jim. This shit hasn't been brought up ever since pic related killed it.
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>>142096948
He couldn't trigger the Greninja transformation and he felt he was falling behind of Shota who already had eight badges, then he's out of his game and Wulfric beats him. He realizes he pushed Greninja too hard and that he fucked up then goes emo.

Serena comes along and fixes him while they both fuck up with each other. Then you get >>142095821 and "Okaeri Satoshi" from Serena. Just no tadaima.
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you could have prevented this
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>>142097030
>You're the one cherry picking spaghetti scenes, not me.
>no mention of spaghetti scenes at all
Couldn't make it any more obvious you were baiting, could you?
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>>142097066

i literally fucking said i know what goes on in those threads. i don't actually care about amour discussion, i was just pointing out your patent lie about the thread's content.

>>142097069

these threads are cancer because you spread /padt/'s cancer here. you're literally doing it right now. nobody gives a fuck about "the shitposter" or your stupid fucking thread politics. i presume these threads are made to get away from that shit and actually have fun, but then you show up.
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>>142097089
You could do that yourself by leaving. You are a good part of the reason why a thread would be shit. Stop trying to protect the image of your precious general. Here's a hint because you can't seem to get that I know your angle: you are ruining it further.

>>>/vp/
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>/v/ is worse than /a/+/vp/ they said
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>>142097190

you're only proving my point.
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>>142097171
I didn't post the webm montage but that still shows how he gets sheepish. Then again, you don't care.
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>>142096482
MY WAIFU IN THE POKEMON LEAGUE
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>>142097110
>>142097184
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>>142097229
>I'm certainly not proving any point of yours, because you're just a really angry sperglord

and he's down and out. Go home everyone
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>>142097205
You are pretty autistic yourself to stay in those threads and say as much shit as possible about another board. It's definitely obsession on your part. Did a guy from /vp/ break your glasses, little boy? You can tell us everything.
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>>142097260
It's probably one of their tripfags trying to gain /a/'s approval via reverse psychology.
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>>142097229

the fact that you're accusing me of being OP proves my point here >>142096971

the "when did pokemon" topics are shitty, but nowhere near as shitty as the shit you bring into them, with your infantile shitposter witch hunt. you're the one sperging out every time a pokeani thread is made on /a/, because you're hilariously butthurt about some phantom shitposter that it's all your ever post about in either thread.
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Hex Maniac a cute. CUTE!
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>>142097318
If that really was the case, he would be displaying his trip. No, it's just a case of a Pokeshipper who got buttmad about Serena.
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>>142097289
Don't really know what you're accusing me of and I don't care. You are confirmed a /vp/ anime generalfag, and that's all I need to know. That's more than bad enough. Go back and never return.
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>>142097318
From what I remember seeing in the threads, the only ones that use a trip are one of the subbers and one guy that does video/music rips from the anime.

You rarely see those trips though.
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>>142093717
>>142093738
The animation is just awesome
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>>142097289
>you made the op didnt you?!
>no you! You! And you!
>stop hating /vp/ guys, it's one of these, I swear!!

it's delicious
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>>142097289
>>142097373
samefag
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>>142097344
>>142097402
Not even trying, eh?
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Remind that in an old japanese trailer of Mewtwo Strikes Back Misty appears older with a little girl, so in some reality Ash is a father and Serena isn't the mother of his children.
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>>142097452

>damage control

>>142097347
>tfw she'll never be animated
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>>142097452
>>>/vp/
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>>142097481
That was the representation of the little girl singing the ED.
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>>142097470
Works for me.
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it would be funny if every time we saw one of the old girls, she'd have aged by the appropriate amount of time she spent away from Ash.
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>>142097470
Ok
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>>142097518
Source? Not getting defensive, just curious.
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>>142097539
She was hotter with long hair.
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>>142097577
She's still
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>>142097695
Is Pikachu checking her butt?
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>>142097695
what fragrance did she leave on ash's clothes?
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>>142093717
>>142093738
I don't remember this scene, at all.

Was it last weeks episode?

Also, as per the topic, it could get closer, yet.
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>>142097731
Only Ash knows
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>>142097090
>that fucking dedenne
holy fuck muh sides
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>>142097695
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>>142097877
It's fucking stupid, but I really like the idea of pokemon depending so much on the trainer, like pikachu's thunder not doing anything if he's worried about ash in the op episode, and generally always mirroring their emotions.

I wish I could feel that attachment in the games.
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>>142098051
These are games about mass-breeding to get the perfect Pokemon and discard the others, and destroy your enemy in competition that are heavily reglemented. If it were not for the anime, the whole thing would be nothing but a mass-production factory. It is ironic that the games would become the opposite of what the brand it supposed to be.
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>>142096482
Wonder how the writers will fuck him this time?
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>>142098293
Who knows
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While he seems to have left now, I really wish the mods would catch on to this guy and his crazy shitposting that makes it so hard to discuss the Pokemon anime here.

When did he start doing this every time we have a thread, anyway?
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>>142097546
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I wonder if someone would post about ash failing league again.
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>>142098465
Lots of people that don't normally watch the anime tune in for the league, so expect a good number of Pokemon threads here the next couple months.
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>>142098375
if their general wasn't so bent on protecting it's image, we'd be able to have a decent discussion about old episodes vs new episodes regardless of who made the thread. Everyone knows these are only started to "show off' x/y , but an okay thread can still be had anyway despite that. What we don't need is a faggot pretending like he's filling everyone in on the situation.
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>>142098589
Why are you so bent on comparing old vs new? What's the point?
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>>142098628
>bent on comparing old vs new
I'm not? That's just the obvious point of this thread. And even if it wasn't, that's what discussion evolves into every single time anyway. Anyone could see that coming a mile away.
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>>142098589
This has nothing to do with anything other than some guy that's completely intent on shitting up Pokemon anime-related threads both here AND on /vp/. The entire insistence that one guy supposedly makes these threads to "push this shitty anime on /a/" is just another random thing he made up in an attempt at getting people to join him in shitting them up.
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>>142098608
what is this? I'm expecting a fun online flash pokemon game, but I would have probably heard about it if it was any good
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>>142098678
The obvious point of this thread is shitposting. Just like >>142098692 says, he does this to have people join him in hating /vp/ because /vp/ doesn't bear "genwunners" as they are the most obnoxious people there (be it for the games or the anime) and he's a Pokeshipper and thinks the original season is best and nothing can come close to it without actually watching.
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>>142098722
It's the Pokemon Global Link, basically just a website you connect to your game that tracks your data and lets you transfer some shit back and forth to buy/win new items and shit.
It's also how you register for online tournaments etc.
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>>142098608
That pikachu looks kinda off. Whats with his head?
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>>142098739
No, the point of this thread is to discuss the Pokemon anime. The threads are good when that one guy isn't sitting there shitting them up, and cancerous when he is. The only connection they have to /vp/ is when he shows up to use them as an outlet about how much he hates /vp/.

And no, he's not the one that makes the threads here, people that want to discuss the series make them.
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>>142098816
His head is more spherical then usual.
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>>142098739
this thread was made by some amourfan. If it was a shitposting attempt, it would have just been a screencap and not a pair of webms. The intention was to show off X/Y, and trying to pin it all on some scapegoat is delusional. It's natural that fans would leak over here and post some stuff just to spur up some interest whenever something remotely exciting happens. You really need to cut it out.
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I remember when it was actually possible to discuss this series here.
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>>142096730
This really is the only way the rabid serena shipping adult men are doing makes a semblance of sense
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>>142098816
pikachu has been redesigned to hell and back. For a truly timeless superior, turn towards Raichu and all his of underrated glory. That should have been him in pokken.
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>>142097385
We love live now
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>>142096482
Charizard Y is so infinitely better than flame-mouth edgyzard. Even his wings manage to look stupid, whereas Y feels like a natural min-evolution. All I wanted to see was Ash's charizard turn into that, but I'll settle for greninja if we get more battles like the one versus the champion.
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>>142093717

>this faggot was literally voiced by a girl

Learning this has destroyed my childhood.
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>>142098293
League is cancelled because of Team Flare attack
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>>142099425
Why?
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>>142099482
keep em coming. Makes childhood-me psyched.
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>>142099531
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>>142093762
No, most anime airs when childrena re asleep.
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>>142099629
Most of those are adaptations of manga running in children's magazines though.
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>>142099613
Kinda cute
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>>142099366
>tfw when Luchabro was introduced I thought hes a shitter
>mfw hes based as fuck
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>>142099653
could have done without the silly loop around, but I dug the scene. Any word on what it means for the synchro? Will Ash still feel pain?
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>>142099652
Serena is fucking adorable.
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>>142099662

He was a jobber for a while.
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Would you fuck ash?
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>>142099662
He's always been based as fuck.
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>>142099662
he fucked up that snowman on the 8th gym with precision too. He's a top-notch fighter, and he's got spunk
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>>142099692
No reason why he shouldn't. I think he'll just stop going maximum edge.
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>>142099692

Yes.
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>>142099724
Maybe?
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>>142099646
I don't know in what universe you think you are if you think most anime is manga adaptations. My point was that there is a clear difference between anime that airs at night and in the morning. 90% of what /a/ talks about your average Japanese 7 year old child will never see.
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>>142099753
but that was by far the best moment of the entire anime
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>>142098293

If Ash wins the league with 3 flying types, I'd be legit surprised.
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End of Pokemon when?
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>>142099805
I don't mean the shounen power go! But in the match against Diantha, after he beat her Gardevoir he wanted to keep beating her up.
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>>142099833

Jesse is surprisingly competent at contest. She should win more.
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>>142099785
Maye not see, but a good deal of it is adapted from manga they've have read. Most manga that gets adapted into anime is shonen.

>I don't know in what universe you think you are if you think most anime is manga adaptations
They are. VN adaptations aren't super common and LN adaptations are a fairly recent thing.
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>>142099873
She made it to the fucking semifinals in both DP and XY's league equivalents for contests/tripokalons
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>>142099898

I hate semi-final losses. It's always such a copout.
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>>142099921
They had more important characters that needed to be in the finals.
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>>142099938

Stop being reasonable.
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>>142099937
honestly was so bored during these specials until it got to the mega evolution challenges. Prime example how great visuals do nothing without a sturdy emotional connection.
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>>142099937
I love this part. Groudon and Kyogre rampaging around in Primal form and sudden, Daddy Fug appears and everybody goes to bed.
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>>142099877
There is a difference between shows like Pokemon and Precure in regards to shows like Kabaneri and Sakamoto Desu Ga. The easiest way to tell the market audience apart is to see what product the show is advertising.

I was just responding to the stupid notion that most anime is aimed at the same audience as the Pokemon anime. I don't really want to get into some big argument, can we at least agree that there is such a thing as "kids' anime" and that it isn't 90% of what's airing every season?
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>>142100092
I'd rather watch Pokemon than Koutetsujou no Stillframe.
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>>142100092
>can we at least agree that there is such a thing as "kids' anime" and that it isn't 90% of what's airing every season?
We can. I wasn't trying to imply that wasn't the case.
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Why do Pokemon movie have such a high production value?
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>>142100585
Because they print money. There was an interview with a guy from TOHO last year where he basically gave that as the reason for why annual Pokemon movies are going to be a thing for quite a while longer.
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>>142100950
And those unlike the series get timely BD releases.
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>>142098293
>writers
>implying there are writers for this anime
>implying these writers give a fuck
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>>142102374
>not knowing that Pokémon has an industry veteran as the lead writer
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=1623
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>>142103695
Hands down the best Pokegirl yet
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>>142104052
>not the ones actually successful
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>>142098816
It's Kanako Eo's Pikachu design. I guess it's popular at GAME FREAK or something.
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>>142100585
Because they make tons of money, all over the world.
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>>142105383
Apart from Korea, most of the world treats them as "slightly longer episodes of the TV show"
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>>142093717
>>142093738
Real Lives, 8:30pm on TLC
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>>142093717
>>142093738

Why is he moping? He loses constantly in much more important battles
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>>142093717
Pokemon first season(kanto) is top quality anime
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>>142105637
The issue wasn't the defeat, it was his inability to use Greninja's mysterious transformation well, since he always was the one interrupting it by falling from pain. He thought he wasn't good enough for Greninja.
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>>142105890
Why the fuck are they forcing that fanfic shit instead of giving him a proper Mega Evolution? He has plenty of mons that can do it
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>>142099432
Thats a lot of fucking flying types unless the bat is dragon something else
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>>142105925
The shilling of ash Greninja is really awful.
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>>142093738
so basically the message here is: you aren't allowed to feel sad, just keep being optimistic, and hide the pain away

what kind of shit message is that to children?
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>>142093717

I'll give them credit for actually realizing they made Ash a soulless battle robot and trying to reconcile it, though it still feels like last minute drama to salvage his nonexistent character arc.

In terms of overall substance, let's just say this show is lucky its got looks.
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>>142104052
>Hands down the best ANIME Pokegirl yet

ftfy
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>>142106327
Well, it is the anime we're talking about here.

Of course the best Pokégirl is Rosa.
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>>142106076

She wasn't angry with him for being sad, she was angry because he told her to fuck off so he could keep moping. She even offered to talk to him about it but he just lashed out at her.

There's another webm of the start of the scene somewhere.
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>>142099694
>when she spent the night in ashes tent but couldnt find her shirt the next day.
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>>142095148
>as well as video game-wise for nearly a decade now

The newer Pokemon games still outsells most """"""""""relevant""""""" games in the market
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>>142093717
>>142093738
She is incredibly cute.
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>>142099692
loop around was final attempt to slow himself down instead of taking full fall damage
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>>142107559
>that Dawn pic
Don't do this to me, anon.
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>>142107559
No, these are the real rankings.
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>>142107559
>>142107870
It's Dawn and May at the top and all the shit scattered throughout the tiers.

Dawn and May a best.
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>>142107559
Surprisingly correct for an obvious troll chart
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>>142107559

Where is the official pokeguy chart
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The OS will always be far better than the XY series.

XY is garbage because Ash has been completely exhausted as a character. He's gone through every single character arc a character like him can go through, yet they still have him go through the same old crap because it's all they can do and the audience don't know any better.

OS Ash had an air of freshness within him, and had genuine development. We can feel his emotions as he grows as a trainer and makes difficult decisions, which makes for a more emotionally engaging experience. People who say the OS was shit because Ash was a bad trainer who lost his battles are basically idiots and underagers who eat anything up so long as it looks pretty.
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>>142107931
Don't listen to him, here are the ones /vp/ agreed on.
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>>142108016

when did Ash go through an arc where he turned into a battle monster and had to reconnect with his roots to master his Pokemon? literally never happened before.

Ash was a temperamental loser when OS started and a temperamental loser when it ended. don't know what genuine development you're talking about.
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>>142108465
>literally never happened before.
You didn't watch the show. He went through a character arc nearly every second episode, sometimes even in the fillers.

>Ash was a temperamental loser when OS started and a temperamental loser when it ended. don't know what genuine development you're talking about.
Watch the show instead of pretending you watched it.
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Who else can't wait until Luna-chan replaces Serena in the next series?
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>>142108679
He asked you when that particular arc happened. Don't dodge the question.
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>>142108679

you said he exhausted every character arc. quote me the series or episode where that happens.

how did ash significantly change as a character, other than his knowledge of battling, which he improves every season?
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Is this that same guy that got banned earlier today?
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>>142108861

Why is Luna-chan so plain?
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>>142108850
Thunder Badge episode - learns to always give his Pokemon a chance to prove themselves.

Lose to Ritchie episode - learns to never give up on his dreams.

Snow way out - learns to always trust his pokemon, even in the most dire times.

Erika episode - learns that Pokemon should never be judged on appearance

He goes through these all the time, only to be retconned out later. XY is no different, everything he's done in that show is something he's already done, and retards like yourself continue to eat it up.
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>>142108768
>Serena goes to Alola region with Ash and they meet Luna who also has a crush on Ash
>both girls travel with him all over the region lowkey trying to win his affections
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>>142108892
>plain
Are you describing your taste? You're dead on there.
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>>142109007

the only legit one in that list is erika. learning implies that he changed his thinking somehow, when nothing suggests that he thought contrary to those "lessons" you listed. and the erika thing falls under learning more about pokemon, which again is a perpetual thing.

also you're still dodging my question about that arc.
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Still the best, always will be the best.
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>>142109209
Did I not already make it clear that they keep retconning his development out? He develops in all those episodes whether you like it or not.

The problem with XY is that every time they try to replicate said developments, it's stupid because it's all been done before, and Ash's personality has disappeared.
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What do you think of this?
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>>142109305

you made it clear that you're incapable of actually addressing my point as you keep dodging it.

you're implying that those episodes changed him significantly and permanently, when he was virtually the same character at the end of OS, just with more pokemon knowledge. also people don't change overnight and they can make similar mistakes multiple times. but XY ash also faces different challenges like what I listed.

XY is exactly where he should be in terms of development and continuity, and the lessons he learns now are appropriate for his level.
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>>142109757
Is he gay?
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>>142093738
Hah of course, as soon as he stops demonstrating alpha characteristics the female abandons him.
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>It's that genwunner again
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>>142109874
I think you're the one who made it clear you don't understand the concept of development. Don't worry, you're not the only retard on this board.
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>>142110122

>damage control
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>>142109874
>XY is exactly where he should be in terms of development and continuity, and the lessons he learns now are appropriate for his level.
Why is he still using new Pokemon then? If development meant anything, he'd be using his most powerful team and taking on far greater challenges, but alas, that doesn't promote the new merchandise.

Can't believe there are people like you who still watch this.
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>>142109874
>XY is exactly where he should be in terms of development and continuity
Justify his personality-less character in XY. Whether or not he's been developed or not means nothing if he's a boring, bland character designed for children to live vicariously through.
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>>142095039
>She is holding pikachu
I cant remember what was the last female that did this.
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>>142110410
Why is she so best?
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>there are people who think there is genuine romance in pokemon xy
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>>142110415
It must be a sign of romance.
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>>142110122
Ssshhhh anon, it's okay to have no arguments, don't start shitposting just because you get told everytime. Hey, I'm patting your head right now, it's gonna be okay. Just kindly get off the thread.

>>142110261
He's a cool dude who managed to get the hang of his Pokemon. He gets chuuni as fuck while still retaining dignity and doesn't get BTFO everytime while making stupid faces unlike his former self. He's more confident, he has his feet on the ground, which is ideal to think thoroughly and win his battle and he recently got a power-up that made him rely a bit too much on it. After growing overconfident, he started losing the focus of what he was doing and lost, but instead of crying and doing stupid anime tantrum or crying, he spent the night outside and sought an issue about his own problems. He didn't get all humble but he still accepted Serena's help despite his pride and grew from the experience.

He's an actual competitor, one that relies on himself and his own abilities, not on some plot-related event that does the job for him. He's a message for people that they shouldn't let events take control of their lives and remain focused and always trying to do something to get better.
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>>142110197

that's not how it works. he starts new teams because he wants to beat regions legitimately, not just steamroll with his old mons. his development shows in how he raises his pokemon better in every season, except BW.

he does take on greater challenges like the battle frontier, but he hasn't actually won a league yet, so obviously he's going to keep trying.

>>142110261

moving the goalpost. i'm talking about this supposed development in OS which is clearly just rose tinted nostalgia goggles. also the pervading genwunner argument is he never does anything new, when being a competent badass IS new, and it's about damn time.
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>>142110580
>He's a cool dude who managed to get the hang of his Pokemon. He gets chuuni as fuck while still retaining dignity and doesn't get BTFO everytime while making stupid faces unlike his former self.
That's one way to confirm you're underage.
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>tfw no more animated trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKmY7tN--mY
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>>142110607
>that's not how it works. he starts new teams because he wants to beat regions legitimately
Why? Are you able to actually explain why without looking stupid? Why is he taking on the same old gym badges challenge that he's done 5-6 times already? So what if it's a different region, it's the same tired shit being regurgitated.

>he does take on greater challenges like the battle frontier
Here's an idea: why doesn't he KEEP doing those challenges? Why does he need to win gym badges with weakened teams?

That's right johnny, it's to PROMOTE THE VIDEOGAMES.
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>>142110607
Not to mention that Serena outright tells him the real him is the complete opposite of his OS self.
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>>142110556
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>>142110632
Because that's worse than thinking a loser with no dignity who just crawls around begging for help at every turn? OS Satoshi got in fucking underwear in public and didn't react to it. He has no pride, no temperament, he's basically your average harem MC who has an exaggerate reaction everytime something happens because "it's fun lololo".

OS Satoshi is shit.
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>>142110741
>Not to mention that Serena outright tells him the real him is the complete opposite of his OS self.
>he doesn't know what a retcon is
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>>142110722

because you have to get 8 regional badges to compete in the league. it's how you prove yourself. ash takes it a step further in proving himself by raising a regional team as well. it improves him as a trainer.

power levels in the show aren't linear and every gym is a different challenge. asking why he continues to challenge himself is a stupid question, and implying that this somehow counteracts his character development is even stupider.
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>>142110782
Yeah, having him behave like a silly 10 year old really was a dumb move by the writers. They should've written him as a flawless genius trainer from the beginning so kids like you could vicariously experience the joy of being a cool trainer.
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>>142110907

OS ash was fitting for OS and XY ash is fitting 6 regions later. you people complain about ash staying the same and then you complain about him maturing. make up your mind.
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The fuck is full Zygarde doing there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0
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>>142110907
So what? Gary was 10 as well and he was an alpha douchebag. I don't understand the issue.
But now you get why XY Satoshi is what he is. XY Satoshi is the stade he reached after experiencing all of what happened before. He retained the experience and can face challenge properly instead of relying on plot conveniences like pic related.
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>>142110844
>because you have to get 8 regional badges to compete in the league
Boring.
Boring.
Boring.

He's done it before and can enter a League again. So fucking what if "it's how you prove yourself", write something better you lazy cunt.

>asking why he continues to challenge himself is a stupid question
Completely misconstruing what I say is even stupider. Of course he should keep challenging himself, I'm saying it shouldn't be the same old regurgitated plot.

Because you're an idiot, here's a reality check: Pokemon is a TV Show - TV Shows exist for entertainment - how is it entertaining for Ash to trudge through the same old tired gyms?

The writers keep with this formula because their target audience is japanese kids aged between 6-12, not fat american mongs living in their parents basement like yourself. It exists to sell the games, which is why it mimics the game's story.
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>>142111049

literally deus ex machina
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>>142111027
>XY ash is fitting 6 regions later
So what if it's fitting? He's fucking boring. Ever wonder why great shows end? It's because they get bland and boring after too long. The only people who enjoy characters like this are dumbasses like yourself who just want the same thing over and over again, like people who eat McDonalds.
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>>142111056
The issue is you're an idiot who thinks quality of a character is relative to how strong they are. I really hope for your sake you're underage, because if you're still thinking this way as an adult, you're beyond repair.
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>>142111143
Not him but why are you in this thread again? You clearly don't like the show. Some of us have no issue with how it's written.
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>>142111072
>>142111072
That doesn't mean the anime is worse that it was before. Characters are more endearing, the MC has grown up and shows control in a competition anime, the visual aspect and the direction are a hundred times better, the battles are more dynamic and aren't just cookie cutter feat of strength shit, we have both episodic stuff to develop the characters AND mini-arc to get the overarching plot going on. XY is an upgrade on every level. Deal with it.
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>>142099378
>Love Live:Pkmn Idol Project

topkek
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>>142097545
The trailer plays the third ending, which is a duet between a little girl and a grown woman, and is narrated by Misty. The three characters in the trailer are Misty, a little girl and a grown woman (who appears in the movie, voiced by the singer in question).
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>>142111072

oh my bad, i thought you were asking about plot reasoning, but really it was a leading question for your autistic rant about muh marketing, i.e. the reason anime exists.

you could have just posted this from the start and saved us both the trouble.
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>>142111205
I'm entitled to express my opinion without participating in your cringe inducing circlejerk, faggot. If you want to engage me, I'm more than happy to oblige with a reply.

Don't like when people express views that conflict with yours? Feel free to fuck off then, because I couldn't care less. You should check out this site called reddit; you're allowed to downvote posts you don't like.
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>>142111205
He was shitting it up earlier today too. Notice all the deleted posts near the beginning? That was him.

He does this every fucking time there's a Pokemon thread here, it's pretty clear he just hates the idea of them and wants to disrupt whatever discussion is going on.
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>>142111191
It's a competition anime. The strongest and smartest will always prevail. We're not in Evangelion where the character were weak-willed on purpose. If you have experienced the world of adults, the REAL working world, you'll know that employers expect people to do their jobs without complaining at every turn. They expect people to be efficient to be worthy of their salary. The adult world is cruel, merciless, and only the best can win. Just like in Pokemon battles.
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>>142111266
You may be new here but on /a/ it's considered cancerous to go in threads about stuff you don't like and blog about how much you don't like it. If you hate it so much just hide the thread and post in one you like.

Your issues with the show seems to be it's very nature. You don't have any issue with the any aspect of it you don't like that it isn't something else.
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>>142111266
>literally going to thread of a show you don't like to shit it up
I'd fucking have 30 /a/ tabs open if I were like you. Consider sudoku.
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>>142111274

shut up with this samefagging paranoia. not every poster you dislike is the same person.

>>142111143

i like how you're complaining that it's the same while at the same time complaining that it's different.

i just said that being a battle master is appropriate at this point. whether you like it or not is up to you.
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>>142111225
>Characters are more endearing
Based on what? Your opinion? How do you know the characters are more endearing? How do you objectively measure this?

You sound like a classic dumbshit who makes claims without actually understanding them, so I suggest you back up baseless points like this.

>the MC has grown up and shows control in a competition anime
So did Goku at the end of Dragon Ball Z; it makes you wonder why they didn't continue that show. He was so powerful and mature, why would anyone stop watching it?

>the visual aspect and the direction are a hundred times better
Based on what? Your opinion? How about elaborating on this or is it too difficult for you?

>the battles are more dynamic and aren't just cookie cutter feat of strength shit
Yeah it's glaringly apparent you're not very smart. Who cares if they're more dynamic? Diarrhea's more dynamic than a standard log of shit, does that make it better?

>we have both episodic stuff to develop the characters AND mini-arc to get the overarching plot going on
Again, how is this a good thing? Stop stating random shit and actually elaborate on how it makes the show better.

>XY is an upgrade on every level. Deal with it.
For a moron like yourself, definitely.
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>>142111266
If you don't like a show, you're welcome to stop posting. To be in a thread just to shitpost about the show is being cancerous on /a/. Do you imagine if EVERYBODY did that? Holy shit, properly discussion wouldn't be possible. And it's not a matter of hugbox, it's a matter that discussing properly can only be done with people that like said thing. Do you make your parents watch Pokemon? Do you speak about it with them?
Why the fuck would anyone speak about things with people that don't like said things? You're bothering people. Get off.
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>>142093717
>standard anime
So complete shit? You have shitty standards, my man.
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>>142111345
Yes and you have an IQ of around 60.
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>>142111465

why are you asking him to elaborate more than you do? he only owes you as much explanation as you're giving him.
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>>142111465
>NANANANANA YOUR ARGUMENTS MEAN NOTHING TO ME I'M JUST GOING TO SHITPOST
Holy shit, fuck off.
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>>142111487
>If you don't like a show, you're welcome to stop posting
I'm also welcome to keep posting.

Not going to read the rest of your post, you're not worth it.
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>>142111417
It's REALLY fucking clearly the same guy that always comes into these threads to start angry arguments. Come on now. He's been in every single Pokémon thread I've seen on /a/ all year and his posting style is always the same.
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>>142109563
Sauce it then faggot
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>>142111509
Wow, such an argument, I'm blown away by your capacity to refute my calmly worded argument grounded in reality compared to your chuuni delusions. But hey, keep liking a faggot character. Seeing you so attached to him is a proof of self-inserting.
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>>142111528
So why is he giving far less than what I am? I've made my points clear and concise; this show is boring because it's the same regurgitated plot used solely for marketing. Making baseless, stupid claims like "more endearing" and "battles are more dynamic!" doesn't prove anything.

>>142111538
I figured you were just stupid, thanks for proving it.
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>>142111547
Hahaha, no fucking arguments, just as usual. Reported for shitposting.
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>>142111555

when has OS fag complained about these threads existing? if anything he welcomes them because his ranting is more tolerated here than in /padt/. though to be fair /padt/ shuns any kind of discussion at all.

again stop with this samefag paranoia.
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>>142111555
Fuck off back to /vp/ with this paranoia crap.
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>>142111588
What the fuck am I reading?
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>>142111588
I already did here >>142111465

I know it's you too, your underage posting style is rather obvious. You're not even worth arguing with.
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>>142111607
And liking OS, which has the same plot and everything worse, is okay becauuuuuuse...? Ah yeah, because you said so. Fuck off.
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>>142111607

endearing and dynamic are as detailed an argument as saying development or personality, which is all you've done. you're a huge hypocrite.
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>>142111690
Because it wasn't a regurgitated, exhausted story back then. Couldn't figure that out on your own? I'm not surprised.
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>>142111638
>>142111649
I don't go to /vp/, I'm talking about these threads on /a/. Every single fucking one of them is civil and decent until some pissmad guy comes in and starts shitting them up for hours until he usually gets banned. It's blatantly obvious it's the same guy every time.
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>>142111685
I gave my arguments, and you're asking me to go deeper when you yourself are staying at superficial level of "THERE'S MORE EMOTION CAN'T YOU FEEL IT"? No, that's not how it works, shitposter.

>>142111764
So you can watch it again without complaining? It's not really new anymore, is it? You have really poor arguments.
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>>142111735
Because it's a widely accepted fact, dumbass. Even autists who prefer neo-Ash acknowledge OS Ash has a more radiant personality.
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To explain the earlier point about why it's considered cancerous on /a/ to shitpost in thread about shows you don't like. Think of it like this, why should it be our job to convince you to like the show? If you don't like it that's fine but we don't care, so stop wasting both our times.
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>>142111764

just because he's going through 8 gyms again doesn't mean it's the same show. that's like saying every tournament in dragonball is the same. it's a similar challenge but the battles and stories surrounding it are different.
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>>142111838
Source? Ah, your imaginary friends don't count. I doubt you even have friends.
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>>142111811
>superficial
Don't use this word when you don't know what it means. Superficial happens to be one of the most accurate words used to describe the XY anime, which naturally explains why superficial people like yourself think it's a lot better than it is.

>So you can watch it again without complaining?
Way to completely miss the point, dumbass.

For what it's worth, I actually did watch it recently and certainly did find it far more entertaining than the 20-30 XY episodes I've seen. It doesn't change the fact that one of XY's biggest faults is the bland, boring regurgitated nature of the story.
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>>142111937
Try asking /padt/ yourself, dumbass.
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>>142111940
>XY's biggest faults is the bland, boring regurgitated nature of the story.
Please give concrete examples.
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>>142095518
Serena is not just a Pokemon.
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>>142111838

>Because it's a widely accepted fact, dumbass. Even autists who prefer OS acknowledge XY's characters are more endearing and the battles are more dynamic and interesting.

see how this works yet
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>>142111940
So all in all, you don't like it. Okay, fucking move on.

There's no way to argue with a condescendant idiot like you who cannot differenciate animation and direction.
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>>142111916
>it's a similar challenge but the battles and stories surrounding it are different.
Why did people complain about Dragon Ball GT? Or Super right now? It's similar to Dragon Ball Z except the battles and surrounding story are different.
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>>142095945
It's possible Serena will stay.
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>>142093717
>If there's something bothering you, just try talking to me.
>It's been twenty years and my balls still didn't drop.
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>>142112022

a host of reasons, but "it's the same thing" is generally not one of them. please at least try to stay on track.
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>>142112022
They complain about GT because GT and Super did and are doing some awful development that take the story to an extreme level of stupidity. The conditions aren't the same. Also, they don't like the poor animation of certain episodes. Don't use false examples. Go shitpost on their threads if you don't like repeating shounen stuff.
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>>142111988
He's collecting 8 badges again
He's still fighting Team Rocket
He's still building a new team each region for no other purpose other than to promote

That pretty much represents the core of XY. If you can't see why people would find that boring, that makes you a superficial person. After all, the only real differences between the OS and XY are glaringly superficial qualities like animation, supporting cast, pokemon etc.
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>>142112135
>animation is superficial in ANIME
Hang yourself.
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>>142112014
>So all in all, you don't like it. Okay, fucking move on.
Nope, I'm still entitled to express my opinion, even if a crazy dumbass like yourself refuses to accept it.

>There's no way to argue with a condescendant idiot
You're right about that, which is why it's impossible to have an argument with you. You're so autistic you can't help but insert insults in every one of your posts. You must have some serious mental issues dude.
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>>142112135
He's fighting 8 new gym battles.
Team Rocket is much less present now, plot device at most. Not as intrusive as before.
He get new Pokemon each new region.

See, now it's new and exciting. You're just biased. And animation is not trivial.
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>>142112100
>a host of reasons
Oh, do elaborate. What did GT do wrong that XY did right? I'd love to hear.
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>>142112135

>characters are a superficial quality
>ash himself is superficial

alright dude
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>>142112189
We've understood it, it's okay, you've said it again and again. You can go now.
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>>142099937
Someone should edit this so that rayquaza has a mod text following him as he ends a shitposting discussion.
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>>142112189
But we get your opinion. You don't have to force it down our throats any more. Seriously what good is this argument? What happens if I convince you Pokemon is a good show or if you convince me it's a bad show? Absolutely nothing. You're wasting our time.
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>>142097230
>thighs

Who is this satoshi guy though?
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>>142112126
Firstly, I'm more than entitled to express my bemusement that you're watching a show that repeats itself. Don't like it? Go cry about it.

>They complain about GT because GT and Super did and are doing some awful development that take the story to an extreme level of stupidity
Really? Like what? How do you think those problems started?

>Also, they don't like the poor animation of certain episodes
Oh but I doubt that. Dragon Ball Z had terrible animation and people still loved that. Alas, it's unsurprising you tried to bring up a superficial quality like this.
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>>142112284
You'd know if you watched the anime.
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>>142112165
The way you're generalizing animation quality, it's rather clear you view it on a superficial level.
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>>142105994

Noivern is dragon and flying.

Coincidentally, Greninja also knows Aerial Ace, which is also a flying type move.
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>>142112225

why are you asking me to elaborate on a point i didn't make? i said that the show is not the same, anymore than tournaments in dragonball are the same. please work on your reading comprehension.
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>>142112301
>>142112342
It's okay, we've understood. You prefer OS. You can go now, this isn't an OS thread.
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>>142112232
Clearly you haven't, because time after time you've illustrated a complete lack of understanding over what you're even talking about.
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>>142112374
>>142112372
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>>142112276
Why don't you tell that to the person hurling insults at anyone (in this particular thread: me) at the mere suggestion that the OS is better than XY? Or that XY is boring.

I would've stopped posting ages ago if everyone just accepted my opinion as you're trying to suggest, but when someone calls you an idiot or an asswipe, I'm more than happy to oblige.
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>>142112284
A hero.
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>>142112372
>this isn't an OS thread.
What? Says who?

As far as I'm concerned, it's a Pokemon anime thread, and people are free to discuss whatever they want so long as it pertains to the Pokemon anime.

Don't like it? Go cry about it.
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>>142112430
Thinking YOUR opinion must be accepted and agreed on by everyone is cancerous. Fuck off, you self-entitled fuckwit. You don't get to decide what is good and what is not.
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>>142112406
>>142112470
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>>142099432
(Haven't been watching the anime) so his team as of now is pikachu, talonflame, noivern, hawlucha and that mutant greninja? That... Sounds pretty strong? Can we expect him making it to finals this time?
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>>142112362
>please work on your reading comprehension.
I suggest you take your own advice, because it seems you haven't been reading properly at all. I'll make myself clear again though.

Good shows end because if they go on for too long, they get boring. Forget Dragon Ball, why didn't Fullmetal Alchemist continue? Who cares if the main story ended, because with a great cast of characters, they could just regurgitate the same plot right? What about Yu Yu Hakusho? Why did that end? The manga should have continued with Yusuke as a Spirit Detective, there's no way it could get boring, right?

It begs the question, why do these shows end, but Pokemon doesn't? What is your answer to this?
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>>142108084
>tfw made the original version of this six months ago to piss off the Dutchfag when he was spamming the start of every thread with it
>now a bunch of other people use it

feels good
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>>142112135

the irony of this post is hilarious because "collecting 8 badges" is the superficial quality. on the surface it's the same premise but the stories and characters surrounding that premise are different, as well as Ash himself growing each season.

of course you're completely okay acknowleding those differences when they work in your favor in bitching about the show.
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>>142112494
Sorry, but I never thought that. Sounds like your projecting your highly autistic personality onto others.

It must really pain you to see people challenging your autistic beliefs.
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>>142112670
>so his team as of now is pikachu, talonflame, noivern, hawlucha and that mutant greninja?
And a Goodra he "released" a while ago that's heavily hinted to be coming back for the league.
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>>142112712
>on the surface it's the same premise but the stories and characters surrounding that premise are different
I don't think you understand what superficial means if you're trying to preach the differences of XY's storylines. Down to the core, it's the same shit, the same character arcs, the same everything really.

>of course you're completely okay acknowleding those differences
Superficial differences, kid.
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>>142112670
Yeah.

Read these for the latest infodumps:
>>>/vp/26500570
>>>/vp/26500580
>>>/vp/26500590
>>>/vp/26500598
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>>142112728
I'm enjoying myself too.
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>>142112801
No, it's superficially the same but it's actually different. I'm genuinely surprised you described Satoshi getting new Pokemon as "old and boring", as if him keeping his old Pokemon would be less boring.
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>>142112817
>cross linking
Fuck off.
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>>142112801
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>>142112679

because pokemon is a massively longrunning series on the level of dragonball, one piece or detective conan. what kind of stupid ass question is this? some shows just keep going. you claim pokemon is forever the same but your only reasoning is the context of gyms and leagues. that's why i said that by that logic you could argue every tournament in shonenshit is the same, but we all know that's not true.
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>>142112865
>No, it's superficially the same but it's actually different
jej, mind elaborating on that? Your next sentence didn't.
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Feel free to quote my little cute post right here >>142112728
It's the Swiss Knife answer to this sperglord.
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>>142108892
She's a default that's why

SM is going to expand the customisation of XY a huge amount most likely
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>>142112679
>why did manga adaptations end while an anime-original with multiple writers continues?
You can't seriously be this retarded.
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>>142112948
I don't understand what there is to explain. It's not like he fight the same 8 gyms over and over.
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>>142112924
>because pokemon is a massively longrunning series on the level of dragonball, one piece or detective conan
You're missing the point dumbass, but now that you mention those, do you know why they're long running?
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Honest question, why are you even replying to this guy? He's clearly just here to shitpost and you're giving him the replies he wants..
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>yfw he loses to Misty in the league
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>>142113015
Wait, you're saying long running series' continue because they're not manga adaptations? How fucking retarded are you man?

Detective Conan's a manga adaptation that's still going and it's older than Pokemon. The fuck does being a manga have to do with anything?
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>>142113033

because they're still marketable. why are you acting like market value and quality are mutually exclusive?

also you're changing the subject again. your point was repetition and i told you why that's bullshit. if you're going to keep moving the goalpost then you can fuck off.
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>>142113042
No, I'm here to have a discussion. It's not my fault you're too dumb to engage in one.
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>>142112732
Cool I guess. No idea how they presented goodra in the show but judging by it's appearance it could be anything between a killer and a crybaby. Did it do any good in battles before?

>>142112817
Thanks for the infodumps. I liked the hell out of Sinnoh league. I know it's kind of juvenile but when you got cool battles, friendship power and dramatic music in pokemon it always kind of gets me. Let's hope for something good.
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>>142113137
>No idea how they presented goodra in the show but judging by it's appearance it could be anything between a killer and a crybaby.
/vp/ gave it the nickname "John Rambo". Try guessing.

>Did it do any good in battles before?
It was a fucking beast
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>>142113078
Something written by a single author has less of a chance to go on indefinitely than something written by multiple authors. Same difference as manga vs comics. Detective Conan is an outlier.
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>>142113088
>marketable
There's the magic word. Why bother writing a quality, original story when you can make more dough by writing the same old rubbish?

>also you're changing the subject again
No, not really at all.

>your point was repetition and i told you why that's bullshit
You certainly didn't. Now that you've mentioned marketability, you're effectively saying this show doesn't exist to tell a story, but to promote merchandise for kids.

>if you're going to keep moving the goalpost then you can fuck off.
Pot kettle
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>>142112817
Man, the Kalos league is crazy. Both the tournament and the gyms. Crazy powerful mega evolved pokémon everywhere. And Ash barely manages to win even with his broken as fuck frog. Can you imagine if XY Ash challenged the Kanto or Johto league? There'd be no competition, he'd obliterate them.
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>>142113214
>Something written by a single author has less of a chance to go on indefinitely than something written by multiple authors
My, how informative! Mind providing that evidence I'm sure you have?
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>>142113137
See >>142099688 for Goodra
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>>142113314
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>>142113377
Get this smug bitchy hypocrite out of my face.
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>>142113253
The manga series you've mentioned, every other long-running manga with an anime adaptation barring the very longest-running ones like Conan, One Piece, Golgo13 and a few others vs anime originals with multiple writers like Pokémon, Sazae-san and Doraemon, or literally every American comic that's gone on longer than the run by its original author.
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>>142113216

stop putting words in my mouth you insipid faggot. you're the one saying quality and marketablity are mutually exclusive, and that's just your personal autism. what's objectively refutable is the show being the same just because the context of each season is similar. if context is the only thing you understand then i'm not surprised you miss the point so easily.
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>>142113419
No.
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>>142113439
>doraemon
>anime original
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>>142113118
You can't prove OS is better than anything.
You just simply can't. If you can't do something, you can't have a discussion about it.
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>>142113465
>you're the one saying quality and marketablity are mutually exclusive
They certainly are. No intelligent person would say a glorified advertisement is a high quality anime. Then again, you're a dumbass.

>and that's just your personal autism. what's objectively refutable
Yet you haven't been able to refute it, at all.

>the rest of your idiotic post
Seems you've forgotten my original point.

The show's boring, the regurgitated plot contributes no this, and no, context doesn't make it any less boring.
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>>142113625
>You can't prove OS is better than anything
I certainly can't prove it to someone as dense and autistic as yourself, not that I ever thought I could.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg5P7rRGp5w
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>>142113788
That means the whole thread, so don't ever come to the threads if the thread won't listen to you.
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>>142113722

>it's shit because I say so: the post

pretty much all of your posts are like this, which is why the only argument i bothered responding to is the one about repetition.

you haven't responded properly to >>142111916, in that you didn't refute the fact that the arcs are different despite contextual similarities. it's the same for pokemon. whether you personally like it or not is a different point that i don't give a shit about.
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Do you guys think his Goodra will come back for the League or will he catch a new Pokemon?
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>>142113926
Nope, I'm still entitled to express my views whether you like it or not.
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>>142113788

i think his point is that you personally can't prove it because all of your arguments boil down "it's shit/good because i say so" and "reee my opinion, stop oppressing my opinion, i'm entitled to my opinion which intrinsically has more value than yours."
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>>142113999
You are, but why bother if the thread won't listen to you? What's the purpose?
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>>142113927
I've already explained why it's shit numerous times, and the repeating nature of the show only compounds it. Not my fault you're dumb enough to eat up the same thing over and over and over and over again.

>just because he's going through 8 gyms again doesn't mean it's the same show
You still haven't elaborated beyond highlighting the most superficial of qualities, dumbass.
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>>142113935
Goodra is more or less completely confirmed to be back.
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>>142114078

how are characters and plots superficial?
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>>142114028
I've made my arguments clear numerous times, you've just failed miserably at comprehending them. Sorry you were that dull.

>reee
Ok, so on top of being a dumbass, you're also a crossboarder. Makes sense.
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>>142114071
What's the purpose of replying?

What's the purpose of 4chan?

What's the purpose of having a discussion on the internet?

I keenly await your answers.
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>>142114185
You sound like you're from /v/ to be honest. You can't imagine a discussion that doesn't entail telling people to stop liking what you don't like.
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>>142113722
>They certainly are.
The original series that you seem to think so was great was extremely marketable. Do you think it flopped or something? Are you an idiot?
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>>142114121
No limit to how dull you are, is there? It's pretty obvious you don't know what superficial means given you were dumb enough to ask something like "how are characters and plots" superficial.

Characters/Plots/Whatever can be observed on both a superficial and a thoughtful level; your observations clearly fall into the former.
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>>142114185
Right now? So you will understand that your views are useless if nobody will agree with you.

The purpose is to argue with people about stuff that is possible to reach a conclusion.

So you can change their views.

You can't do any of this, so the best course of action is to not come to the threads.
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>>142114256
I don't care where an autistic dumbass like yourself thinks I'm from, because at the end of the day, you're just an autistic dumbass. Water off a duck's back.
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>>142114265
>great
Not really, just better than XY, and a lot of that comes down to charm.

Yes the OS was a marketing device, but it was a good, fun marketing device. The problem with you autists praising XY is that you keep trying to convince people that Pokemon has finally "gotten good" as if it's now comparable with other anime. Sorry, it was never good.
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>>142114291
Would they be useful if people agreed with me?

Do you worry about the size of your e-penis? It sounds like you have quite the internet ego.

I don't care whether or not people agree with me, that won't stop me from engaging in an argument.
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>>142114336
>you're just an autistic dumbass
You're the one who's been having a useless argument all this time though. Literally wasting your own time.
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>>142114135

clear is not the same as sound. all your arguments are the same opinionated bullshit of which you accuse others.

>>142114280

>if you observe them on a superficial level then they are superficial

yes, no shit. that's what you're doing. you can easily categorize them into femcee, male support, friend, rival, mentor etc, but their actual personalities, motivations, dynamics and arcs are different.

you are only contradicting your own argument here.
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>>142114450
>You're the one who's been having a useless argument all this time though
But that's exactly what you've been doing.
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>>142114523
But I don't pretend I have the high ground.
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>>142114472
and you still won't elaborate. Good try dumb dumb, but you never had it in you.
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>>142114570
The high ground? What the fuck are you talking about? Is your aspergers really this severe?
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>>142114440
You might accomplish something if they did.

I'm not the one trying to make my views known even if nobody will care.

There is no point on engaging in an argument that can't be winned.
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>>142114617
>You might accomplish something if they did.
Accomplish something? On 4chan? An anonymous imageboard? Are you stupid or something?
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>>142114613
You're calling me an autist as a pejorative but you've been doing exactly what you've been accusing me of being an autist for.
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>>142099482
Holy fuck this is almost 10/10 animation
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>bump limit
Later dudes.
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>>142114671
No, I mean for yourself. You might be able to feel better with yourself if you win something, anything. But you can't do that here.
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>>142114572

the thread is going to die, but if you can't see the difference between misty and serena, brock and clemont, gary and shota, team rocket and team flare, or OS ash and XY ash, then there is no point, and you're not convincing anyone who actually watches the show.
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This thread needs more Dawn.
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>>142114881
How's this?
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>>142093738
>thinking isn't like me at all
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>>142115404
No. That's the penguin thing dressed as Dawn.
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