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>Even Japan is obsessed with capeshit Do they do it better

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>Even Japan is obsessed with capeshit

Do they do it better or worse than the west?
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well the west has manjaw females in silverage outfits for their comics while japan has sugoi kawaii girls and frogs.

go figure.
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>Even Japan is obsessed with capeshit
How long did it take you to figure this out
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it's trash even in Japan, inferior to even Reborn and Toriko
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>>142066140
>DC just reboot itself again
>Captain America is Hydra
You tell me.
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The west just killed Superman again and turned Captain America into a Hydra Nazi sleeper agent who worked for them the whole time.
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>>142066267
>Toriko
Nothing is inferior to Toriko, it's fucking bottom of the barrel.
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>>142066282
>>142066308
You're both fucking retards

Exactly the type of shit that doesn't actually read comics that is ruining /co/

Cap being Hydra is just another fucking sotryline that will end at the end of the year, it's just brainwashing or some other twist
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>>142066250
Only just realised how many shows there were involving superpowers

>>142066267
Some say it's one of the better modern shounen
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>>142066140

Just watch OP. Toriko will surpass boku shit to become the next big up n' comer to shonen jump. Just wait and see. The editors at shonen jump assured me, Toriko was the next big thing and gave it multiple color spreads, front page covers, team ups with DBZ AND One Piece. So you take your little Deku shit, that cries at every other page and GTFO.
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>>142066140
>highschool
>teenagers
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>>142066374
>do it just for cheap shock value
They are fucking desperate.
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>>142066374
>/co/
Who the fuck would go to that shitty place?
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>>142066484
>shock value
the only people it would shock are people who don't actually read comics

Anyone that has read a comic before wouldn't throw a bitch fit, they'd just wait for the story to play out
They KNOW this isn't a real villain turn
It's just one arc
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>>142066356

This. How retards eat this shit up baffles me to this day.
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>>142066356
It's a decent world

many shonen are more generic
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>>142066795
I just want to see how much further the power creep can go. We are already at planet busting, multiple dimensions and taking control over galaxies.
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>>142066411

How many shows?
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>>142066374
>some other twist
I am expecting a "IT WAS AND ELABORATED RUSE"
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>>142067140
It's really obvious that it's brainwashing

>RED skull has xaviers brain
>caps flashbacks are in black and white except some bits of RED
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>>142066554
Sadly only shitters do now. Now I have to go to fucking Reddit to talk about comic books without all the shitty fanfiction stuff. How fucked is that?
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>>142066411
>Only just realised how many shows there were involving superpowers
Holy shit Anon, you're slow. Cyborg 009, Super Sentai and Kamen Rider always been the japanese super heroes.
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>>142066411
>Only just realised how many shows there were involving superpowers
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>>142066411
dude, Astroboy.

it's been this way since, year 1.
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>>142066140
it would be literally impossible to do capeshit worse than the west
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>>142067349
maybe you should stay there
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>>142066576
Kinda reminds me about that story arc where doc Oc became Spider-Man. I don't read comics much but that one was good. Even that dworf love-story seemed cute.
Pity they cutted it out in such a rush.
%%But let me guess - Otto is alive and well again?%%
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>>142068659
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>>142068722
Otto is still dead

Good run, around 20 issues isn't that short though (I think Dick had around the same amount of time or less as Batman)
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>>142066435
Toriko is dead face it and it failed because it sucks
you are just jealous that MHA is gonna be the next big thing
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>>142068795
Is it any good? I mean, doc Oc was fun to be watched given how easily he managed get Piter's life decent. Did Dick do something like that? Or is it all "I have to make them scary of me" theme as before?
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>>142068935
Dick was a different Batman
Batman & Robin was the main bat book at the time, the dynamic was inverted with Dick/Batman being the joker and Robin/Damien being the serious one - It was good
Many preferred Dick Batman to Bruce Batman
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>>142068756
this is trash, Daredevil is still a crap movie no matter how much you cut it, and i have watched that version also, is this one of those /a/ lists that are completely ironic
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>>142069105
What was the name of the arc again? I am more interested in Damien though.
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>>142068756
X-Men is the most overrated capemovie franchise.
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>>142069597
Most X-men films are decent-good though and all feel like comic book adaptations
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>>142069641
>all feel like comic book adaptations
what does this even mean, is this some stupid stuff like when someone says "superhero" when describing something.

it either follows the story of a specific set of issues of a comicbook, or it doesn't there isn't a "feel like a comic book" anything.
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>>142066140
they do it good but the example you posted is worst than the west,opm is a better example of the japs doing capeshit better than the west
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>>142069800
Marvel Studios movies are too afraid to be comic books (superhero names are treated as jokes),
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>>142069928
OPM is only a slightly better The Tick, but a worse Mystery Men/Flaming Carrot.
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>>142070004
i know,i was just saying that op posted a terrible example
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>>142070112
you would still be wrong, since Venture Bros is better than OPM also, so japs doing capseshit better than the west still doesn't work.

c'mon son.
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>>142069928
OPM is a parody though
It's more like Kick-Ass, Super or Deadpool
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Its hard to tell.
I feel like Japan capeshit never reaches the heights of american capeshit but at the same time there aren't a lot of shit japanese capeshit things.
On the other hand, American capeshit it's full of some of the worst fucking things imaginable.

So it depends on your taste. Are you a guy that prefers highs to lows? Or do really shit comics bother you enough to make you hate the entire medium.
Personally, American shit is just so fucking awful at its worse and the good american comics are probably just the coincidence of having so much capeshit that I prefer Japanese more.
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Why is it now okay to discuss off-topic spew openly on /a//
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>>142066484
It work the same principle as Anime girl with cowtits and MC-kun, it makes money
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>>142070803
the kick-ass comic is terrible, super is a movie, and the deadpool comics is a straight man, funny man sketch with the marvel universe.

a storyline with a world filled with superheros that is not just a parody, is Astrocity:the tarnished angels, and i haven't read any manga that came close too that.
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Reminder that Spiderman and Captain America are now black and Thor and Wolverine are now women
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>>142071418
fuck off /pol/
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>>142071498
Thanks for the bump
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>>142066554
>>142066374
/co/mblr is a shithole. As soon as shows like Adventure Time, and mlp;fim aired back in 2010. It has been on a steady decline of legit faggotry, and liberal tumblrtude.
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>>142071418
Reasons why MUHvel is just a shit pile.
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>>142066374
Yeah, this. It's the same shit as Superior Spider-man and Superior Iron Man. And there are still retards who firmly believe Superior Spider-man wasn't irredeemable piece of dog shit.
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>>142069641
>most
Only two X-men movies aren't complete shit. First one and First Class, and first one gets a slide only because, well, it's the first one.

Rest I consider Australian porn. You might they are capeshit movies, but it's actually Fox's executive sucking Hugh Jackman's cock.
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>>142071617
>/co/mblr is a shithole. As soon as shows like Adventure Time, and mlp;fim aired back in 2010. It has been on a steady decline of legit faggotry, and liberal tumblrtude.
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This is a Japanese superhero
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>>142072504
Porn actress?
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>>142072504
Now THIS is a japanese superhero.
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>>142072777
No, children's show actress
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>>142073023
Gokai Yellow is a qt.
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> reading comic books in the current year
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>>142073023
And also a surprisingly popular VA.
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>>142073320
I like my "Mein Lustiges Taschenbuch" very much, thank you.
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>>142073136
Ahim was best girl though
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>>142073460
> Superman emblem with the letter P? how sexist
> I know I'll make a boob window and show off my cleavage until I figure out what to put there
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>>142066356
Fairy tail
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>>142074282
hm,gotta agree with this,no story whatsoever,just fanservice and bring fanservice at that
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>>142066356
Black Clover.
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>>142075457
ebin meme
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>>142068795
>Otto is still dead
He's stuck in Pete's robot assistant
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>>142071418
Don't forget that there are two of them at same time in same universe
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>>142068756
>He forgot the best cape movie ever made

BITCH NIGGA
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>>142077672
Toons don't count
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>>142077709
>anime movies don't count
that's you right now.
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>>142073320
Please tell me those unworthy imbeciles are regretting that shit moment today.
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>>142066435
Deku hasn't cried since becoming a madman.
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all might didn't know his mentor that well it seems.

he didn't even know she had a child that would eventually spawn shigaraki. looks like she kept some things secret from him.
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Western capeshit is garbage. It's basically author's political opinion: the comic, ft. some hero preaching my political opionion.
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>>142066435
This has to be bait, Torikocucks haven't been outside their containment threads since last year at least. Everyone knows it's shit.

Toriko couldn't even outsell FT or Kingdom, what chance can it possibly have against MHA?
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>>142066411
>Only just realised how many shows there were involving superpowers
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>>142077672
Yeah this really doesn't count. Batman:TAS stuff was god-tier just like classic Disney, it doesn't deserve to be compared to live-action shit or current CG stuff.
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>>142066140
>Do they do it better or worse than the west?

It's pretty easy to do it better than what the creatively bankrupt west is managing to produce now a days.
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I was looking for my daily Boku no Hero Academia thread, THIS IS NOT MY BOKU NO HERO ACADEMIA THREAD
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>>142074818
aaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
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Not better or worse, it's different.
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>>142081658
Oh, god, what kind of cancerous cancer is this?
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Japan's capeshit is way worse than America's, though there are a few decent exceptions and I like that they put their own spin on the stuff. OPM is ok if you can get past the shit art. BnHA is pretty decent though Deku is an intolerable faggot for most the run until recently. Tiger and Bunny was a lot of fun and well done. That's all I can think of that I found decent, but I'm probably forgetting a bunch of stuff.

I used to be like your average weeb /a/non that thought anything drawn from the West was shit until my bro got me to read a few cape comics, and they were damned good. I don't keep up with most of what comes out, but some of the higher quality releases (recent reads of mine include Batman Year One and Superman: Red Son) and the DC animated movies are consistently above average to excellent. The live action movies are largely misses for me, though I really liked the Dark Knight trilogy and the second Captain America.

>>142081658
Please don't tell me this is the actual dialogue.
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>>142074432
Not to mention how few Fairy Tail characters die in that series outside of flashbacks. One villain even Allahu Akbar'ed himself after losing and still showed up years later, completely fine.
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>>142081791
>>142081861
>Please don't tell me this is the actual dialogue.

It's real, sorry anon.

The Female Thor was objectively worse however.
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>>142081950
>Allahu Akbar'
You're on an Japanese cartoon imageboard, why not just say Kamikaze?
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>>142081991
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>>142081996

>2016
>not acting like /pol/
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>>142081991
>>142082032
I'd heard about female Thor but I assumed it was just Thor like always, except with a female lead now because reasons. This is so much worse than I imagined, I'm actually angry.

Did it at least sell horribly?
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>>142081861
Yeah, there are so many great comics over the decades, even every year there is something breaking the mold like grant morrisons stuff
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>>142082114
Fuck off, casual

That was just issue #1, they got their shit together after that

>sales
better than the original Thor and everyone other than Spiderman/Deadpool at Marvel
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>>142082155
>getting called a casual on /a/ for not reading enough Western comics

What a time to be alive.

Also,

>>>/tumblr/
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>>142082192
>>/tumblr/
nice buzzword
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>>142082114
>Did it at least sell horribly?

/co/ says it went through the motions of briefly spiking where everybody bought it out of the novelty before stabilizing and then falling off the chart.

They did all the worst writing in the first few editions that people actually bought.

The thing is though that no one really buys comics in the west anyway, so the difference in sale was negligible in the long run and the only thing that translated over or caught anyone's attention was how many initial copies sold.
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>>142082248
>/co/ says it went through the motions of briefly spiking where everybody bought it out of the novelty before stabilizing and then falling off the chart.
Why are you lying?

You can check sales and it sold well
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>>142082248
>so the difference in sale was negligible in the long run and the only thing that translated over or caught anyone's attention was how many initial copies sold.
kek

It sold 25% better than the original Thor even at its lowest
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>>142082286
>>142082390

Fair enough.
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>>142082286
>>142082390
That's horrible. That means this shit is going to become more common, doesn't it?
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What, are you not familiar with Tatsunoko?
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>>142073320

As someone who grew up with Justice League Unlimited, I died a little inside when I read that page.
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there is absolutely no way japan could ever do capeshit worse than the west
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>>142081996
Shit, you're absolutely right
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>>142081861
>Japan's capeshit is way worse than America's

Kek you're full of shit /co/ fag how many Japanese capeshit series do you even know of to begin with?

>OPM is ok if you can get past the shit art.

Yeah cause there's a comic artist that can animate gifs like Murata oh wait. Or are you trying to compare colored comics to a web comic done for free and put out for free by an idea man?

At least you know Tiger and Bunny, but the examples you gave are basically just the tip of the iceberg.

The fact that you didn't even realize that shit was real tells me you are just cherry picking examples of the west's best versus Japan's worst.

DC animated movies are the only real argument you got and the story and plot in them are still generic as fuck all.
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>>142079637
Marvel is still trying to pander super hard, mostly because their writers are nu-male dirt bags. They haven't realized yet that tumblrinas don't buy comic books and even if they did, the writers actually gold beliefs like >>142081658
so it wouldn't matter.
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>>142082032

What's funny about this is that Titania has fought female superheros like She-Hulk before, so her "I respect what you're doing" spiel just comes off as hamfisted pandering on the part of the writer.
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>>142082538
Damn, you are triggered as fuck.
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>>142082616
Yeah cause I quoted and typed two more sentences than the guy I quoted, calling him out on his shit rationally with basis. Totally triggered.

Or is that you just projecting?
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>>142082681
>leads with a boogeyman meme ad hom
>cursing a lot
>accusing the other of not knowing enough good jap capeshit despite listing zero counterexamples
>Throwing in the "generic" buzzword with no explanation behind it

Yeah, you're totally not triggered.
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The West has some good series and Japan has some good superhero stuff, just in America there is a fuckton of it where as oin Japan it's still quite large, the amount isn't like the amount of Western comics and to be fair considering one of the most influential manga/anime, Kinnikuman, was/is a Superhero series its not all that suprising Japan loves Superheros
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>>142082032
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>>142082859
>leads with boogeyman meme ad hom
>smugface reaction image thinking it's somehow more acceptable to than calling out shitters for being faggots
>doesn't even know how cancerous capeshit can get as proven in this thread yet tries to shill /co/ to high heavens as if he was enlightened
>greentexts and shit posts the moment someone calls him out and denies evidence

Nigger you can ask me for examples when you can prove OPM isn't drawn better than your garbage. Even ONE has better paneling than the fucker that did Superman: Red Son even if his art work was scribbling shit. Why do I need to help your stealth /wsr/ newfaggotry before that?

I'll give you an example you don't want though, not a single fucking western comic can ever compare to even a chink comic like Ravages of Time and that's a fact for everyone with more than 2 working brain cells.
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>>142082966
do you think it has something to do with japan liking something different? i mean, they probably like to see stuff made outside their country in hopes of seeing something 'new'.

that's probably why skullgirls and rwby did well in japan.
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>>142083551
>being this assblasted because baby newfag got his beloved OPM slighted
>getting so desperate to bring up non capeshit in a discussion specifically about comparing nip and clapistani capeshit

You can't make this shit up.
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>>142083664
Skullgirls probably did well because it was filled with healthy, sexy women fighting each other in skimpy outfits. Sometimes the japs have good taste.
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>>142082248
>People don't buy comics anymore

Yo, I love this meme. It's seriously hilarious.
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>>142083551
Hellboy
The Sandman
The Goon
Lucifer
B.R.P.D
The Strain
Watchmen
Before Watchmen
Spawn
And Western

Shut the fuck up
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>>142084041
>before watchmen
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>>142083664
Maybe,it probably is just people as a whole like some variety, for example way back Tetsujin 28 did fucking great in the United States under the name Gigantor.
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Capeshit is very niche in japan. It's a weeb fantasy to think they like your shit
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>>142083783
>thick sexy fighter got kicked out of EVO in favor of manface pig advantage capeshit game

man, injustice somehow aged poorly in the course of like, two years.
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Japans publication model happens to allow creators with novel twists on classic ideas to get just as much exposure as anything else, so authors with enough talent to swing compelling or at the very least entertaining characters into superhero tropes get more exposure than original properties here in the west.

The west also happens to have a lot of baggage in the comic industry, that any given character or story that's well enough established will have to drag around with them. So it's like they're working with training weights on. Big, clunky, 80-90 year old training weights.

So right now, I'm gonna go with Japan, at least where cartoons are concerned. Between shows like Samurai Flamenco and OPM, Japan seems to be consistently hitting the thematic nail of the Superhero genre on it's poignant head. So far Hero Academia has been fun, but rather formulaic in terms of episode structure.
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>>142067232
>RED skull has xaviers brain
So professor X is dead again. For fucks sake, they have been pulling that shit nonstop since the very beginning, even during an era when being dead meant something.
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>>142084041
>Lucifer
>Before WatchMen
>Spawn
Sweet Christmas

>>142084995
It really isn't.
Broaden the term to cover things besides people in costumes and it'd be most shounen battle-manga.
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