Why don't Japs just migrate over to America and then form

>>142020791
Source on pic

>>142020791
different social appeal, we weeaboos are a small majority, even smaller than the comic book scene.

>>142020791
Pic very related to your question

Animation industry is filled with nerds with zero corporate ambition. That's why they're doing horribly in terms of business even at home ground.

>>142020791
I'm not sure what you're getting at with that second sentence.

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Because America would flip their shit with stuff like this

>>142020973
Why not some ex-anime industry people move to America? It would be a perfect opportunity to start an anime industry in America.

This is what the Japs have done in France, where they now have a French anime industry(small but getting there).

>>142021049
Thats aimed at anime otaku in Japan.

Why not the techniques and art direction but with different target demographics?

It doesn't have to be about lolis. It could be about shooting illegal immigrants or killing brownies.

>>142021069
I'm sure some of the more "professional" studios like KyoAni will eventually venture into foreign markets, probably China and stuff before US, to further their brand. But most studios are too busy surviving to think that far.

>>142020791
High investment
High risk
Low profit

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>>142021129
Shows targeted at kids in Japan aren't that different.

>>142020791
I don't see any reason to hate American animation so much. I hope you don't think that anime is something special? Read last interview with Sadamoto

>>142020791
Japanese see less work hours as a bad thing and your average Japanese person is terrified by the thought of having to use English. It'll never happen.
Not to mention it's just cheaper to outsource the animation to Korea, which is what most studios do.

Also
>America
>better pay
kek

>>142021333
>kek
That's true. Because animator in America is not MC tier job

>>142021249
It will be different in US though. That kind of show would be labeled sexest/mysognist/satanist/etc

>>142021333
Japanese animators are making an average of 10k-20k a year.

Thats at poverty range in US. US animators make anywhere from 50k-500k a year.

Plus this is not about the average but rather about the industry professionals.

>>142020791
Don't have the article but a company is doing just that.

>>142021507
There are no US animators left, unless you mean 3D animators in which case you're right.

>>142021570
>There are no US animators left
>3D animators
Are you drunk? You think if movies are in 3D that means you don't need any 2d animation?

>>142021672
Where would you need traditional 2D animation in a 3D movie like Zootopia or Angry Birds for example? Storyboarding in 2D is not animation in case you were going to say that.

>>142021129
>Targeting Western demographic
We already have Trigger, anon.

Because animation is only a small part of everyone's adult life, and most adults aren't supposed to watch animation

>>142021049
I want to fug Kuro.

>>142021765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqV63qRFoUs

>>142020791
They get crippled by sjw, soccer moms, and other groups, and end up producing the same shit that airs now in national networks. I doubt there's no one here with good ideas/willing to make better cartoons, is just that once they get filtered only the bland shit thats easiest to sell to large audiences without offending anyone is left.

>http://work.chron.com/much-money-can-make-animation-9425.html
Average US animators make 32k to 70k a year average.

Top 10% animators would make 100k+.

Those are easily much higher than Japanese average

>>http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/04/28/average-annual-income-of-a-japanese-animator-is-about-9200
Average Japanese animators make 9200 USD per year. Thats below poverty (12k a year for single person). On top of that, they work upto 11 hours a day.

>>142020791
>SJWs
>Feminists
>retarded murrican ways
>needing to pander to the god awful western anime fanbase or your shit won't sell
How about no?

>>142021952
Where did they use that in the movie? Nowhere? I see, so you were wrong.

>>142022084
You believe otakus are a superior japanese anime fanbase?

kek japanophile is too strong here

Have some perspective. Anime fans are shit wherever they congregate. Fans usually are, they're fanatics for a reason. What matters more is the pay and the living conditions.

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>>142020791
-harder to find good artists for a decent pay
-higher costs in general
-harder to find a company willing to fund
-workhours limitations lengthing the time for it to be done
-cultural barrier, cant show nippslip in a series made for a christion county for example
-not the same demand for it if you compare to the east

summery
it costs more, in a country with less intrest in it

>>142020791
America prefer capeshit

>>142022189
>You believe otakus are a superior japanese anime fanbase
Never said that. Western fanbase in general are cancer that will kill anything they came into contact with.

>>142022129
They have 2D animators in credits.

There's not as much market in america for lingering close-ups of 12 year old's underwear

>>142022279
Show me the 2D animation Zootopia used.

Honestly Anime's problem is the fact the bubble economy was a shit idea and now their money is worth more as toilet paper than currency.
Not to mention the low birth rates lead to less of an audience to appeal to.

>>142020791
so it can flop like Nichijou and put them in an even deeper hole?

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>>142022350
Show me Zootopia BD

>>142022189
>Japanese fanbase creates doujin
Name one thing the Western fanbase contributes.

>>142022484
Cancer

>>142022319
Cartoon network exist. Animation as a channel exist.

It exists in every country where theres TV. Children exist and associate animated face more easily than real faces.

There's always a market. There might not be a market for otaku pandering slice of life, there might not be a market for harem genre, but there will be a market none the less.

>>142022484
Anime cons and meetups.

>>142022484
4chan.

>>142022484
UN knocking on Japan's front door.

>>142022550
SoL is popular in every medium of every country.

>>142022601
People only go to those for the orgies with desperate, lonely nerds.

>>142022484
they take the time to acquire and translate anime and manga and give it out for free so that fags like you dont have to spend your parents hard earned money on them or moonrune lessons. you wouldnt be here if it wasnt for the western fanbase but leave anyway

>>142020875
Actually, the comic book fandom is smaller and is declining. The closest anyone under 20 nowadays is gets to comic books are cartoons, video games, and movies based on them.

Manga is big with kids and it's still expanding in popularity. It also has a huge female fanbase which comics don't.

Cartoons aren't taken seriously in the west. Ask any soccermom or male 40 or older and they'll tell you cartoons are for kids.

And anything that isn't explicitly for kids is super edgy capeshit for angsty teens.

>>142022796
>translate anime
/v/ pls. Fansab is dead for years

>>142021129
There's no market for it in America. Similar animated programs do poorly. Look at things like The Venture Bros or Legend of Korra.

>>142022853
>south park is for kids
Right.

>>142022853
Or Simpsons clones.

Americans don't need to draw themselves with bright hair colours for the sake of TV because you an already differentiate the live actors.

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>>142020875
>>142022804
Comic-fag here. I can confirm that we're eating shit. The only thing keeping some companies alive are video games and movie royalties.
On the plus side, Eurofag comics are pretty decent.

>>142022931
Adult cartoons are not so popular. And people still call them "retarded cartoons". Even underground "adult animation" is "cartoons for kids" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfI69DC_jaw

>>142022913
we still have weekly threads about translated anime we wouldnt get for months back in the west. you dont need to be angry that youre wrong

>>142022916
Korra was straight garbage though. By the end it was only shippers and fetishfags.

>>142023006
>Comic-fag here. I can confirm that we're eating shit.
And some have done so proudly for decades.

>>142022931
I love SP as much as anyone but come on. No one takes that show seriously.

>>142022916
The original avatar cartoon ran for 3 years straight. The second season Legnd of Korra ran for 2 years straight. Roughly about 60 episodes and 50 episodes.

Thats pretty decent.

Venture Bros ran for 6 seasons. 71 episodes.

Even so, 12 episode format could very well be imported to American animation industry to cycle through fresh ideas.

Cartoon network airs 24/7. There's disney toon. Nicolodean channel. etc

There is a market. I don't get why people are saying there is no animation market in America. There isn't a market for harem genre. There isn't a market for japanese shinto buddhist cultural anime. But there certainly is infinite amount of room for market in US/world.

>>142023006
Read something besides Marvel.

I recomend Hellboy or anything from Mike Mignola.

Anime production like you see in Japan wouldn't be sustainable in USA if they had to pay their animators American wages.

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>>142023188
I can't keep reading Hellboy when I already have most of the Hellboy and BPRD trades.

>>142023188
Stop. All comics are shit. I get that you want to do the whole DC/Marvel thing and tell him indie is good but no.
Just stop.

>>142023259
So edgy.

>>142023200
They pay shit ton of money for shit like Adventure Time. If the Japanese migrants got paid even half that, they would be better off.

>>142023280
I am the Razor's Edge
Sharpened to an attometer

>>142020791
Then they would have to live in your shithole of a country.

>>142023280
Not the other guy, but cartoons suck shit, even for the indie scenes. Its garbage. Literal trash garbage.

Face it. You don't need an edge master to tell you that when its apparent.

>>142020791

Immigration laws.

"You want to come to America to make animation, for what, Dizney?"

"No, for ourselves!"

"Fuck that"

Why the fuck would you willingly move to the US to make a startup? Why the fuck would you willingly want to live in the US if you're not rich?

>>142023618
US actually permits immigration if its due to work reason. Work visa is what its called.

If they wish to be a US citizen, then all they need to do is stay there for a while and do the test.

>>142023730
Everyone is the US is rich compared to other countries.

Being poor in America means you at least have a large TV, AC, food, clothes on your back etc.

>>142023730
Even if you're poor in the US, you're still much better off than 90% of the world.

>>142021952
are you fucking serious? they don't do 2d animation anymore.

>>142023785
>>142023788
>trading your freedom for a large TV and AC
No thanks.

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>>142023788
>>142023785
Keep trying, countries with higher salaries often mean higher cost of living.

>>142020791
Because they can't make something like pic related in the west.

Heck they won't be able to make it come 2020 or post-Hollywoodization of their shit.

Fuck white people.

>>142020791
Why is this a gif

>>142022012
>>142021507

Who is paying them and where are they getting the pay from?
It's not like they can just make a studio in the US, make some anime, and suddenly earn big bucks.

>>142023785
>>142023788
You also lack things like health care, good internet depending on the location or you privacy.

>>142023917
Some people prefer putting images as gif because of quality reasons.

>>142023835
What are you talking about

>>142023851
Yes and thank god I do not live in a mud hut or some swamp trash or russia

>>142020791
>anime start up company
get a jap manga artist to work and make it big in the US first and then ask for something as complicated as animation production

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>>142020791
Because they wouldn't be able to sexualize lolis (or most underage characters) if they did that.

>>142023851
>be 92.98% less likely to be in prison
>be 92.11% less likely to be murdered
Heh.

>>142023962
>murrica
>land of the """""""free""""""""""
Pick one.

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>>142024003

>>142023910
>come 2020
You actually believe that Japan will censor and cut down on their culture in order to appeal to close minded retarded white people? Really? Fucking hell, the other day people were talking about the possibility of Love Live being in the opening ceremony.

>>142023851
>https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/comparison/seattle/tokyo?currency=USD

Seattle vs Tokyo

Seattle is cheaper to live in. Cost of Living is higher in Tokyo.

>cheaper housing/clothing/travel/entertainment
>same food cost
>tiny bit expensive personal care

If you include the salary count, then Seattle become MUCH MUCH cheaper to live than Tokyo for an animator.

>>142024003
Only counts if you're black or white. If you're asian/japanese, chances of you being in jail is so much lower. This applies to nearly all facets of crime.

>>142024072
Popular idol shit being in the opening would just be more COOL JAPAN and not them trying to shutter stores that sell loli shit and eromanga.

>>142024103
Japan isn't Tokyo, and if you want to be as objective as possible you should compare it to San Fransisco since it's were most creative and tech industries, including startups are.

https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/comparison/san-francisco/tokyo

>>142024141
Yeah, okay. Come back when actually, anything, or ANY indications of your crack theories coming to fruition have happened.

>>142020791
Probably because among other reasons, Japanese people enjoy being able to not give a shit.

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>>142024141
>them trying to shutter stores that sell loli shit and eromanga
Holy crap, you actually believe this shit?

>>142024192
San Francisco and the Bay area price escalation is due to Silicon Valley.

Tokyo has one of the biggest animation industry. Seattle/Westcoast is one of the best place for Japs to move to. Its got good temperature/people/culture/etc and roughly 13% are Asians. San Francisco has nearly 20% as Asians too, but due to its high price, its not worth it unless Hollywood.

Seattle/Portland/Vancouver would do really well for animators.

>>142023917
Transparency and low file-size.

>>142020791
Make anything that isn't Blue's Clues, Spongebob, or Family Guy, and no station will braodcast their shit, and any normalfag who sees it will chimp out.

>>142022709
>orgies with desperate, lonely nerds.
This made me laugh harder than it should have.

>>142023150
You're right. TRIGGER, GAINAXING and MADHOUSE should quit japon and merge with Disney to make Star Wars animu forever!

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>>142024192
>San Fransisco

>>142024322
Use PNG then, which respects your freedoms likie >>>/g/.

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>>142023962
Russia is good if you live in Moscow. Especially if you have money. Even small towns are comfy if you have money

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>>142020791
Xiaolin showdown is better than anything japan have ever produced.

Prove me wrong.

>>142024627
Don't post troll please.

>>142024595
How much does the great Putin pay you, tovarisch?

>>142020791
Who are these lewd girls?

>>142024627
It's okay.

>>142024627
I've only watched it until the br/latino betrayed everyone and liberated some bitch.
It was good until then. Kinda childish and too episodic though.

>>142022189
They dont have sjw. They are default better than us.

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>>142021330
Say whatever you want. We're not claiming that the Japanese are imbued with some completely unique brilliance or that anime is "muh mature deep adult animation for mature adults", explain it with puritanical moral outrage culture and general censorship or whatever you want, but American shit sucks. I've read Hellboy and Y: The Last Man, two of the huge paragons of "non-superhero" alternative comics, though Hellboy is still essentially a superhero. I've read Maus. Fuck the west. Filled with talent, and that talent has been entirely wasted. At least, that's my preference. People are allowed their tastes, and I just don't understand western sensibilities. Never have. Never will.

>>142025064
Except that they do and their radical left tends to use bombs instead of shouting people down with muh isms

>>142025108
I might prefer that.

>>142024670
enough to cover his food rations and electricity bill
internet is subsized in russia since you need to be online in order to do shilling

Japan aside, I'm surprised there is very little anime-esque animated stuff here in the States. Its only a matter of time as anime gets more popular.
We already have stuff like The Last Airbender and Xaolin Showdown.

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>>142024627
>All those Omi fags who got BTFO at the ending when Raimundo became the new leader

I sure wouldn't mind seeing the return of those Western-Japanese-coproduced shows like Ulysses 31 or the Once Upon a Time... Something series.

>>142021424
Now delete your thread

>>142025334
>Xiaolin showdown
>Anime esque
You're right with TLA but I really don't see the resemblance with xiaolin

>>142025451
I was thinking Eastern themed stuff in general, and ones that tend to have some shounen tropes

>>142024460
I don't tell people to kill themselves very often. But I genuinely hope you do.

Fuck off

>>142021672
koreans are animating amerifat cartoons - see the simpsons

>>142025451
People are confusing eastern culture theme as anime.

Just like how people confuse western culture theme as cartoon or wrpg. dark souls

>>142024627
Is there porn of the girl?

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Because anyone who could form a company here would face
>higher labor expenses
>More paperwork
>Smaller target audience
>Difficulties in finding animators suited for anime.
>Importing previous staff is nigh impossible.
>TLDR; Huge risks with smaller margins

If you mean that group of animators migrate and start their own company...
>Everything above and...
>Lack of funds
>Lack of people who are willing to move
>Lack of reason to move


Risks for moving are huge and theres little no none potential pay off. Its lot safer just to stay in Japan so nobody is willing to move. Western audience is also smaller and already dominated by few big names. It could be impossible to find marketing or screentime with reasonable costs.

>>142022913
The SZS threads finished translating SZS a few months ago and are currently working on Kumeda's new manga.

You are better off just collaborating with Netflix than try an actual studio here.

>>142025802
Start ups don't operate like traditional companies. They operate on budget and efficiency and hope for funding from buyout/contract/investment/etc.

There are many government grant programs to help with that too.

>>142025905
Those things dont magically happen overnight and might not happen at all.

Also that doesnt even solve the other problems

>>142023006
Another comic-fag reporting in. I think it's because we don't have enough indie comics getting popular. It's basically only Marvel>>>>>>>DC and then everything else and even Marvel comics are going down the drain popularity-wise. I mean, I can only do so many Spiderman series per year without getting bored so I kind of understand. Plus that shit gets expensive.

>>142020832
You can't honestly be this new.jpg

>>142023962
>mud hut or some swamp trash

Actually, we have that in America. It's called Florida.

>>142024627
Shoulda posted Samurai Jack, then maybe your bait would've actually hooked more people.

>>142026157
This thread isn't about instant company creations. If the issue is "if it doesn't happen instantly, then it should never happen", then nothing would ever get done. Anime has been introduced to the west for decades. The question is, why hasn't there been a startup or any sort of fostering of talents?

Crunchyroll or Netflix could do outreach program and help with work visa issues and cultural familiarity programs This could jump start this wagon. Expatriots from Japan could create an anime startup. An anime industry could be started in America if there were even a single person pushing this sort of thing.

These sort of jumpstart isn't new at all. All other fields do it, be it doctors, professors at universities, computer programmers, actors, etc

>>142026413
Learning English and dealing with a completely different culture is the biggest hurdle.

>>142026413
>The question is, why hasn't there been a startup or any sort of fostering of talents?
You could read my reasons first de geso

>These sort of jumpstart isn't new at all. All other fields do it, be it doctors, professors at universities, computer programmers, actors, etc

Fields which have guaranteed customers and still fail their startups regularly

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>>142020791
Because then loli would die, OP. You do realize that it's illegal in most of America, right?

>>142023000
Heh, that's actually kind of a good point.

>>142026517
You think there are no Japanese language translators in US willing to work with Japanese animators?

>>142026548
Startups regularly fail thats a normal thing and a very good thing. If you don't allow failures, then you wont get anywhere. Silicon Valley startup industry is literally filled with people that have failed so many, yet they still get fundings.

>>142026608
>Startups regularly fail thats a normal thing
Which is why no one is doing "import anime to US by importing a studio"

Its useless as we can just make anime in japan and then send it to US. Its cheaper,faster and has less strings attached

>>142026590
>Because then loli would die, OP.

Good.

Cakes are much better.

>>142026675
>anime start up in US
>hire japanese animators
>hire translators
>sell rights to cartoon network/abc/disney/etc
>make 100x more money than doing the same in Japan
Market waiting to be tapped. Literally a gold mine.

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>>142026700
>Cakes are much better

HEY EVERYONE SPOTTED THE CHUBBY CHASTER, LET'S LAUGH AT HIM

>>142020791
>moving anime to SJW fat land

sure would work

>>142020791
i would glady sacrifice loli for a greater good

>>142026700
Shut up faggot.
Nobody wants America moral standards to settle in anime.

>>142026737
>anime start up in US
sure
>hire japanese animators
From where? If you want them from japan then you need visas and shit. Extra paperwork which may or may not let them in the country. Also interviewing them will be a pain in the arse.

Of course if anyone decent enough actually wants to ditch japan and work for you

>hire translators
Extra costs and translating slows down the work which will cost even more. Depending on the staff you might need more then one

Nuff said
>sell rights to cartoon network/abc/disney/etc
If they want to buy anime from which might not be the case. Also profits might or might not be big enough

Also this can be done in japan too
>make 100x more money than doing the same in Japan
Not really... care to provide calculations?

>Market waiting to be tapped. Literally a gold mine.
Noooo

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>>142022012
>Average Japanese animators make 9200 USD per year

How do you even live in Japan like that? Doesn't the basic necessities (food, rent, etc.) already exceed 9200 USD?

American TV standards and FCC wouldn't put up with them.

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>>142026821
>>142026700
Please guys, there's so much we can accomplish if we stop fighting and work together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSV8WMc_Yq0

Unless you're one of those new retards confusing pure Christmas Cake with MILFs

>>142026737
It's easier and even less costly to just do anime in Japan and then sell it to cartoon network/abc/disney.
The reason it hasn't happened is because they are not interested in most anime.

Nips pander to themselves, not to America.

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>>142026998
>Being closet pedos

Only manlets like loli's

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>>142027204
Rude. I-I'm 5"10.5, technically above average. I'll admit though, my dick is only like 5 inches

>>142022484
There's some decent western fanartists around.

>>142022484
>muh porn

inb4

>doujin isn't just shitty porn! it's also shitty fan music and fanfiction comics!

>>142024003
>be murrican
>get shot

>>142027339
Erect or flaccid? Because if the former, that's pretty sad even on /a/ standards.

>>142020791
For starters, they don't want to be shot.

>>142027381
Well, yeah. Doujin refers to the circle/society and the suffix like shi refers to manga, LN, magazones etc.

It'd be like saying all music comes on vinyl records

>>142027494
Not even. Mine is like 3' rock hard. He's got it good.

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>>142027204
6' here, I really love height difference.

>>142023259
>calling Judge Dredd shit

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>>142027494
W-well, I mean, erect, it's almost 5.5 inches. Whatever, not like I use it anyway. I do feel pretty bad sometimes though because, based on what people say, it seems like every other dude on this board has some sort of 7-8 inch monster cock or something.

>>142027648
Pretty sure you're the American average. That's me too, don't worry size buddy.

>>142020791
Are you retarded? The 'animators' in America are fucking mouthbreathers, keep them as far away from anime as possible. You also just can't magically get better pay/funding/work hours and still expect to compete with Japanese studios that pay their employees in nap times and are constantly making anime all year round

>>142021129
There would be no aimed at anything in the US. Despite what you may believe, west is a lot stricter when it comes to sexual content. The only thing they don't give a fuck about are censors.

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>>142027204
>closet
I'm not hiding anything.
I simply love loli.

>>142027770
T-thanks, my benis buddy

>>142027648
That's because people with dicks bigger than average are more likely to brag about it online. People also lie a lot when they're able to.

>>142020791
Do you understand anything at all about venture capital funding or business development or marketing strategy

No? then stop asking bad questions

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>>142020791

>>142027032
Its called living with parents or living in some tube shit.

>>142027196
Money talks.

If you offer someone 20k a year job to the person who only makes 10k a year, they will gladly take the 20k job.

>>142027840
>Anime is only sex

>>142027032
I get ~7000$ annually and I'm a doctor.

>>142028095
Where are they going to get the money to pay animators 20k each?

>>142022012
Many old Disney animators were let go and forced to draw furry porn for a living.

>>142027204
>>142027339
>>142027648
>>142027770
>>142027972
What's the best size to satisfy a girl?

>>142020791
HELL NO. it's going to be infected by sjws.

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>>142028254

>>142028210
>Forced to
lol

>>142028247
Not really length. It's the width. There are other factors involved too.

>>142028254
This
>>142020791
Is that nipslip?

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>>142020791
I would like a view from the back

>>142025638
I once went to a university event with a professor who allegedly specialized in Japanese culture giving a talk about anime. In this presentation Samurai Jack was provided as an example of anime. Let's just say that more people than you would guess know nothing, even alleged experts.

>>142026590
Its not illegal anywhere in the US

>>142028101
The third world is cheap.
Japan is pretty pricy to live in.

>>142021507
Probably off-topic, but how much did golden age animators make? Ward Kimball and one of Disney's other Nine Old Men had freaking railroads in their backyard. Kimball's was about the size of the Disneyland Railroad itself.

>>142028254
>>142028292
>>142028357
They did it already on comics so there's a huge possibility that it will happen.

>>142028507
>The third world
You even don't know what that means.

>>142024627
I fucking love it.

A lot better than this current season fo sure

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>>142027339
>>142027648
>>142027770
>>142027972
>>142028247
>Having a tiny dick

Yeah loli suits you more.

You little kids wouldn't be able to handle cakes.

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>>142028010
Please

>>142028579
If you're only making 7 grand as a doctor, you're living in the third world

>>142020791
>Better pay/funding/workhours
Who would pay them? If they take better pay and work hours like domestic animation studios then people would just outsource to Korea and Japan like usual and they'd lose out on work.

If they were to produce their own content and sell it as is, then they run into the problem of animation literally being worth less in America. What with consumers and networks alike paying less animation.

>>142028670
depends on how much expenses are in that particular country.

>>142028670
>third world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

>>142020791
Because they'd likely still be creating for the Japanese market. Their shit pay already comes from Japanese customers, moving to somewhere else just means getting shit pay in a different country.

What they need to do is look at better distribution methods and selling directly to the international market rather than selling the rights to 3rd parties.

If I were a Japanese mangaka I'd look at self publishing online and perhaps directly hiring some translators to reach out to foreign markets. I'd be particularly interested in digital retail and distribution, probably looking towards amazon, apple and even steam for foreign distribution.

If I were a publisher I'd be looking at the above methods for both manga and anime distribution with in house scanlators and subbers.

>>142027032
Most animator's do it as a side job, like indie comic dudes in US.

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>>142027648
>>142028637
I'm 7 inches and I still feel small. Never using it, so it doesn't make a difference.

>>142020791
>Better pay/funding/workhours would completely crush the shitty animation America has developed.
That's not how this works. There's no fucking law stopping them from paying their workers more in Japan, it's just not viable with the output/size of the industry. Moving to America wouldn't magically give them more money.

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>>142020791
>AMERICA
>Simulated child pornography was made illegal with the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996 (CPPA)
>Trump
>Jews
>SJW

>>142026383
It's not bait if it's true.

>>142028384
>no long striped socks
>Like 50% more clothes
Anime confirmed for cancer

>>142028663
This nigga can't recognize an artist who draws magnificent floor

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>>142028637
>muh dick
Childish.
Cakes are just desperate old hags that simply don't want to die alone. Their sexy bodies are good for a rough pump and dump. If you think you're that much better off for liking old women then I won't stop you. Just don't fall for their tricks and fall in love with one, I'll just laugh at you then.

Lolis are fundamentally different, their true love is overflowing and that's what matters.

>>142029245
Imagine how it would be if it was made in america.

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>>142028979
7.5 and in the exact same boat friend.

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>>142027770

>>142028247
the best way is to know what she likes

>>142020791
On a related topic, why don't studios hire translators to translate their work and distribute it themselves instead of relying on middle-men companies like Funimation and Crunchyroll?

>>142029592
Because they don't care, simple as that

>>142029592
Because they don't give a shit about non-nips

>>142029614
>>142029644
Then why do they give the rights to non-Japanese companies in the first place?

>>142020791
And then japanese animation would become 3d animation like tom and jerry nad oggy and the cockroaches baka

>>142029697
Because an effortless fist full of cash is an effortless fist full of cash.

You might not recycle, but if someone offered you $50 to dig through your trash in order to recycle would you not take the money?

>>142029697
Because foreigners contact them, otherwise they wouldn't care

>>142021961
This.
There would be not more violent and sexual shows because that's offensive and hurts kids.
Though they would be forced to put lgbt relationships in every show, because that's progressive.

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>>142027648
>>142027770
>>142028247

>>142029350
This anon gets it.

>>142029136
>SJW
Someone please purge these degenerates.

>>142030114
Stop educating the little kids.

>>142030114
Fuck, I am 14cm

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>>142030114
>tfw bellow average

>>142022012
isn't that a bit disingenuous? they are adding the equivalent of interns into the average, which get paid very little naturally. I'd rather see an average of animators who have been in the business at least 5 years.

>>142030114
Erect or not?

>>142029962
What are you talking about?


Americans don't give a single shit about violence, though I do agree, once you show a single nipple everyone gets their panties up in a bunch.

>>142030461
erect, no one measures limp dicks

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>>142029423
Like this?
Please excuse my mediabang paint pro skils

>>142029350
Loli's are just little annoying shits that only care about their onee chans.

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>>142030675
congratulations
you got a job at saaban/4kids!

>>142022223
where is my tsugumomo 89????

>>142022853
Yes middle aged women watch the CG shit with no shame.

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Because then you'd be moving to America.

>>142027392
Correction
>be nigger
>get shot

>>142031091
So everyone in America gets shot?

>>142031135
No, every one from UK/Sweeden/Germany gets shot

>>142031176
Why? Did they leave USA?

>>142031176
This makes no sense lad.

>>142030675
lolis aside.
Can American companies even show sexy adult video game and anime girls anymore? We've been pretty good in the past but now with the gender politics pandering it seems like we can't even have that anymore.

>>142020791
>shitposting with a pic of illya and kuro
just kill yourself dude.

>>142020791
too much SWJ & feminazi shit there

>>142031310
Not a day goes by that I don't see those two on the front page. I'm getting sick of seeing them and the constant buzz about lolicon around here.

>>142029592
>>142029775

Actually some of the "middle-men" are getting involved in production directly. Netflix was part of the production committee for Knights of Sidonia, for example (i.e. they partly bankrolled the project).

There is an increasing awareness that there is some demand in foreign markets, but if you're a Japanese company there's no need to develop your own in-house translation and localization department - instead, go the other way and integrate the middlemen into sharing the risks of production. It's still not super common but it is a growing trend.

>>142031289
No, they are all niggers

>>142031341
>comics in Japan
relatively creatively unhampered
pornographic images must be censored
>comics in america
pornographic images don't require censorship
creativity is heavily stifled by social taboos

>>142020791
I would love more shows like steven universe and adventure time.

>>142031526
Niggers that left USA are all niggers? Okay...

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>>142031350
Yes, there's a constant "buzz" about lolis. What's up with that?
This strange new fad on /a/

>243 posts
>no mention of the fact that this is basically what Funimation is

Come on guys.

>>142031554
Creativity in the states is stifled and stagnant from a lot of issues. Social taboos is not one of them.

>>142023785
you are full of shit
i didn't have any of those things until i paid for them myself and I'm 22

>>142031580
I mean about how it's terrible and Japan needs to be banned for making it. Of course 4chan has always been into lolis.
And it's not just here, fucking everywhere on the internet where there's discussion about anime people are crying about lolicon as if hardcore doujins were 99% of every anime and manga ever.

>>142031759
Thank you for proving my point.

>>142025395
I'm a spic
and i got BTFO
most people latch onto the mc, not the person who shares your ethnicity;
>>142031862
I'm saying I didn't have those things until I got money from working

>>142031350
>constant buzz about lolicon
That costant buzz is one fucking guy.
I don't hate lolis, but I don't want people to shitpost with my waifu

>>142023785
That's because we're more concerned being able to sit on our asses in front of the tube and ignore our problems. Most of those people will be up to their balls in debt too because they used a credit card to get all that shit.

>>142031091
So you be sayin?
*Smacks lips*
we was sandy hook and shiiiiet?

>>142022012
It depends on how fast you draw, slow asses get payed less.

>>142027032
Go to an apartment ($300-500 a month) or stay with your family
The rest of the money you use for food and other expenses.
It's not hard.

>>142027381
Hey dont go hating on the circles that make 2chu music. Some are amazing.

>>142028384
>>142020791
I was visibly upset until I realized that this >>142030675 was our future

>>142031909
Best boy was the cowboy

>>142032177
>$300-500 a month
500 if you live in an area with low cost of living.
Most places you're going to be paying 7-900 a month for a tiny little apartment.

>>142032177
>Go to an apartment ($300-500 a month)
This depends on where you live in America.
I pay $990 for a 1bedroom in NYC
My brother pays $600 for a small-ish house in South Carolina

>>142031554
but SJW and feminazi already crying about loli, incest and other perversions...

>>142023851
65.48% less likely to die in infancy? Good thing I was already born.

>Japan ranks #34 on the World Bank's ease of doing business ranking
>South Korea ranks #4

When's Japan going to get its act together?

>>142030114
Above average , i guess thats good enough. Im a grower though

>>142031668
>doesn't realize Japan hates Funimation

Aniplex has TAKEN like 10 franchises from Funi
like FMA and Baccano
they don't have respect for them MAYBE Netflix or Amazon Prime

>>142029962
lol what planet are you from. the west loves gory shit much more than japan does.

>>142032331
Why not live with parents?

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>>142024473
>Not San Fransiscon

>>142032647
Yeah, I don't know why /a/ is saying that the west hates violence and sex when people love gore and cable channels love throwing tits everywhere. It's why 90's anime OVAs was loved so much in the west because they were full of that shit while japan hated it.

>>142032676
Because sometimes you want to be able to get drunk as fuck and smoke yourself stupid without getting a lecture from your parents at the age of 30.

>>142032880
>you want to be able to get drunk as fuck and smoke yourself stupid
Why would you do that in the first place?
And why would your parents lecture you if you have a job?
I'm 27, and live with my parents, The only thing the keep nagging me about is to marry.

>>142032766
>cable channels love throwing tits everywhere
Violence isn't a problem anymore but sex immediately becomes the devil when it's cartoon or video game characters. Are you seriously going to pretend we don't have feminist retards squawking anytime a video game girl strikes a sexy pose?
And don't forget, it wasn't too long ago that video games were satanic for showing too much violence and games like GTA were corrupting the youth. Do I need to remind you about the GG episode of CSI?

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>>142026700
I only would agree with you if they maintain the same face structure we have nowadays.
(Like the one in this pic.)

I do not want woman having 30 years old male face as standard like Marvel DC.

I'm saying this because I don't know what you wanted to say with "cake". (Google gave me "nice ass" as meaning. Also "cake is a lie".)

>>142032766
>Yeah, I don't know why /a/ is saying that the west hates violence and sex when people love gore and cable channels love throwing tits everywhere.
It's not that they hate it all together, otherwise GoT wouldn't be popular. It's the fact that it's a cartoon and cartoons are for children unless they're aired on adult swim or Fox, in which case they have to be raunchy comedies.

>>142031909
Raimundo really deserved to be the leader.

If i recall he really put in the most work in the final fight and i remember omi was acting like some bitch too.

>>142033108
Depends
http://exhentai.org/g/937896/2467435dda/

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>>142033108
>I do not want woman having 30 years old male face as standard like Marvel DC.
I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.
Styles come and go but anime girls have always been much cuter than western stuff.

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>>142032676
Western culture dictates that you're only seen as an adult when you live on your own and pay bills, taxes etc.

>>142033108
>I do not want woman having 30 years old male face as standard like Marvel DC.
Different countries have different standards of beauty. Not everyone likes the style of neotenous girls prevalent in anime.

>>142033220
http://exhentai.org/s/690e03c793/937896-8
>30+ armpits
Funny thing, this will be a feast for SJW as well.

>>142032766
>Yeah, I don't know why /a/ is saying that the west hates violence and sex when people love gore and cable channels love throwing tits everywhere.
And how many of those shows are cartoons?

>>142033289
>Western culture dictates that you're only seen as an adult when you live on your own and pay bills, taxes etc.
That's stupid.
It's better to help your family in paying the bills.
So you freeload for 18 years, then leave them with debts you were the reason the got into it?

>>142033108
>not knowing what Christmas Cake means
You must lurk two years before posting.

>>142033289
>teehee the man is the damsel in distress what a stronk gurl
Yet women still want men who will dominate them.
This is the duality of the west.

>>142033396
Then don't be lasy on writing.
Cake alone has tons of meanings.
Also I didn't expected english people using japanese slang.

>>142026700
People like this guy and holywood movies make me believe we are socially going more and more to gerontophilia.

>>142033680
>Cake alone has tons of meanings.
But only one around here.

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>>142033679
I take it you have no idea who She-Hulk is and didn't even read the panels.

>>142033882
She Hulk is musclefag femdom fetish fuel.

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>>142033289
>Not everyone likes the style of neotenous girls prevalent in anime.
Most western people don't. We are (generally) white westerners who do and are sick of/don't understand your way of seeing things, which is why we got into anime in the first place. Fuck off.

>>142034204
What's with the false dichotomy when all I did was post a fact that different people from different places like different things?

>>142033919
Don't worry she's still making .70 cents to the dollar as her bigger greener male counterpart.

The patriarchy will not be subdued in such a way

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>>142034342
What he is saying is a majority of the way animation and drawing in western comic and cartoons is slowly degrading he seems to be just fixated on facial features

>>142034634
I hate that art style so much. Little more than the unrefined scribbles in some hipsters high school notebook.

>>142034858
Same here. Can't people notice most of these cartoons are just copypasted from each other by some fat fuck with a third rate animation software?

>>142023785

I don't know where you're from in America, but when you're poor you can't afford AC or a large TV unless you're either doing something illegal or exploiting government aid somehow. You get the bare necessities from the government and that's it. The main issue with being poor in America is that mostly everyone else around you isn't poor and everything is tailored for the middle-class and above save for ghettos and prison.

>>142035529
>everything is tailored for the middle-class and above
There is no middle class America anymore.

>>142035667

My point is that he's confusing the working class with the legit poor and/or those that depend on government aid to survive.

>>142023755
Protip : You need a company (like Disney) to sponsor you for that work visa. You cant just say you want to go over there and start your own company (at least not without some SERIOUS credentials, like you are a CEO or something and want to open a branch there).

If you could just open a business to get a work visa in America, there would be thousands applying to open small shops and shit.

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>>142024317
What about Torrance or the rest of South Los Angeles? Gardena and Torrance have gigantic Japanese populations and influence. Many in the political elite are Japanese and there are tons of companies in the area that are Japanese, the most important being Toyota and Honda, even Konami had offices there. Also helps to be next to Hollywood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrance,_California
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardena,_California
Also im an idiot when it comes to business so let me ask this question? Would they have to pay their animators the same as Americans? One of the reasons why American get payed more and why work is usually outsourced is because of the Animator's Union which demanded every gets payed higher driving all the jobs away. Would nips have to become members of the union?>>142028550
It was all over the place bro. Some made more than others but there wasn't a standard. Walt Disney tends to get painted as the villain of the golden age of Murrican animation. In reality his studio payed people more while they also employed more. Warner Bros. (the studio behind the Looney Tunes) was apparently the worst. In some ways it was kind of the original anime studio, as it payed its animators by how much frames they produced. It was also abnormally cheap, its one the reasons why the signature Warner Bros. smear effect exists.

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>>142034858

It worked for Adventure Time, specially during the earlier season when it had a much more down to earth child-like tone. But when a bunch of other cartoons use it it gets annoying and it looks lazy. A think if Nip studio set up shop over here, there would be so few Americans working there, as there are few good draftsmen in the American industry.

>>142036073

Indeed, one of the few ways to easily and legally get into America is to have a boatload of Cash and promise to bring it into the country.

Just random Joe?

Nope!

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>>142022012
This is data from a more recent survey.

>>142025318
>internet is subsized in russia since you need to be online in order to do shilling
kek