Why do people shit on LNs so much when they'll praise anime

>>141762640
You're a meme fagboy

I think the people who shit on LNs aren't the same people who watch the shitty adaptations.
Light novels are the cancer killing anime, though.

>/a/ is one person

>>141763021
It's something I've seen repeatedly.

>light novels are shit
>light novels are the lowest tier of media

I rarely see LN threads on any board and whenever they're brought up there are always a few people that need to shit on them.

>>141762640
Anime is more accessible than an LN or VN. Who wants to read a good story when an anime can give you the good parts?

>>141763117
VNs are far more popular than LNs for the western audience.

>>141763183
Doubtful. Post proof.

>>141763231
Multiple boards on this thread discuss VNs regularly. There are no generals for LNs.

The VN subreddit is almost twice as large as the LN subreddit.

>>141763292
on this site*

>>141762640
LNs that get circle jerked by ESLfags here are invariably shit. Sometimes the anime can make it tolerable with nice art and voice acting. Everyone is sick of hearing "Well they butchered the adaptation by not adapting my animesuki spoilers 1:1, but trust me volume 8 will be awesome and this series is totally different." It's the same shit every fucking time.

>>141763292
>Thinking 4chan is representative of westerners
Yeah, no. 4chan is obscure in the minds of most normies and most would rather watch an anime than go to a computer, install a program on a windows box and read for hours.

>>141763437
I'm not trying to make this an anime vs LN thread. I'm simply asking why LNs as a medium are so hated. What do people base their hate on?

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>>141762640
Anime are usually an improvement on LNs.

A lot of LN writers are upstart youngsters who got their young awards work turned into a series, and that rough gem is refined into something actually worth watching by a studio made of professionals.
The entry level for LNs is much lower than manga.
Also, while a manga needs to be a moderate ongoing success and have various appraised tankbons before being considered for an anime adaption, all a LN needs to be picked up is a couple volumes that did well in sales.

Take also into account that roughly half of a LN is made of scenery descriptions and inconsequential internal monologuing, so an anime is giving you only the good parts.

Because these popular light novels are seemingly all bottom rung young adult fiction and it's propped up as something better and praised

People go crazy here for some cute girls, especially with a quirk or gimmick that takes off, and fluff so anime adaptions will get an easier ride. Most of these will be forgotten before they get scrutinized too hard anyway and the next season begins.

>>141763580
Is your Japanese good enough to judge the quality of the original material? I don't understand how you can simply say that anime is an improvementon LNs when the anime adaptation leaves out so much.

>Take also into account that roughly half of a LN is made of scenery descriptions and inconsequential internal monologuing, so an anime is giving you only the good parts.

This is how books work m8

>>141763482
No one hates LNs, they just hate battle academy harem garbage, reincarnation or "fantasy world with RPG mechanics". You'll never find people here shitting on Kino, Jinrui and LoGH.

>>141763666
>Is your Japanese good enough to judge the quality of the original material?
I'm>>141763669
and mine is. Those novels are physically painful to read.

>>141763705
Really?

What have you read and why was it so painful to read? What made it so bad compared to non-LN literature?

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I have no idea what an LN is. Why don't you just write a novel? What exactly makes them "light"?

>>141763865
They have an anime drawing on the cover.

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>>141763666
>Is your Japanese good enough to judge the quality of the original material?
Yes, I regularly read them in Japanese
I own several physical ones, but I don't buy many of them since they're trash

Also
>This is how books work m8
Yeah, but a book will give you at least some modicum of entertainment, they're pleasurable to read if they're well written.

A LN's scenery description usually goes something like:
"The courtyard was empty. I could see two trees in front of me. It was sunny outside. What a nice day."

And this is the level of writing through the whole thing. Short bursts of incredibly short phrases, lapalissian statements ahoy, unnecessary internal monologue that always boils down to phrases that amount to "Well, the thing I just described happening sure is happening, uh".

It's like reading the fluff on an essay, like when you know you have to write 5 pages but you have nothing to fill them with, so you repeat yourself and use longer phrases to pad a single phrase of content into an entire page.

>>141763865
They're incredibly easy to read compared to a book, both in sentence structure and level of kanji used. They're written specifically to be targeted at middle and high schoolers looking for a simple and unchallenging read.

>>141763865
Because they're light. They're too short to be called a novel.

>>141763935
>They're incredibly easy to read compared to a book, both in sentence structure and level of kanji used. They're written specifically to be targeted at middle and high schoolers looking for a simple and unchallenging read.
That makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

>>141763939
Horizon is classified as a light novel, and each volume is like 700 pages.

This >>141763935 is a more accurate definition

Are LNs all serials or are there one shots that get made into anime?

>>141763935
>They're incredibly easy to read compared to a book, both in sentence structure and level of kanji used

Fantasy/Sci-fi LNs use much more kanji than regular novels.

>>141763482
It's because Light Novels today are mostly all about the author's chuunibyou and wish fulfillment.
What most people hate are the harem, battle academy combination and reincarnated to a fantasy world stories.

Especially those that uses an RPG's stat points. .

>reading LNs
Might as well read an actual book you fucking weebs

>>141763735
I've tried reading a variety of the shit that airs throughout the seasons. The prose is middle school level, the dialog is unnatural and the expository narration is just bad. Never mind the cliche characters and wish fulfillment plots that are painfully predictable.

Have you never read a bad book?

>>141763935
>And this is the level of writing through the whole thing. Short bursts of incredibly short phrases, lapalissian statements ahoy, unnecessary internal monologue that always boils down to phrases that amount to "Well, the thing I just described happening sure is happening, uh".
Fucking nailed it.

>>141764013
There is some incredibly rare instances of stand-alones, but I can't name a single one that has been made into an anime.

>>141764031
Not in normal speech.
Not to mention, they're usually used at the start with a full explaination of what they mean, and they're all middle-school level kanji, just used in an unusual way.
Also, sentence structure remains at the characteristic LN-like simplicity.

>>141764075
The typical LN target audience may find that too difficult.
Remember that in Japan a 'difficult' book doesn't just mean big words, it may mean literally being unable to read it.

>>141764112
And the anime adaptations fulfill such high standards...

Get the fuck out of here.

>>141764145
>it may mean literally being unable to read it

yeah, english words are much easier since you can just search what it means on the internet, but for them, they can't search for it because they literally don't know how that kanji is written

>>141764145
>Remember that in Japan a 'difficult' book doesn't just mean big words, it may mean literally being unable to read it.

Could you give examples of some difficult books?

>>141764205
You can easily look up any kanji you don't know.

>>141764112
Name a literal good book then.

What's the usual stories for LNs marketed for girls?

>>141764264
cute guys get trapped in a MMO, the only way out is to kiss each other on the mouf

>>141764166
>I'm going to eat garbage and like it!
Most of the adaptations are equally shit, but a competent director and good seiyuu make all the difference.

>>141763117
Honestly, I like that it's faster to read LNs or play VNs than to watch anime. Anime has its own pace that you must adapt to.

>>141764243
English or moon?

>>141764166
No one said that.
It's just that an anime is typically less painful to sit through because the worst parts of a LN (scenery descriptions and internal monologue) are cut out of the anime, so it's a net improvement on the product.

It's never a masterpiece, but at least it can go from being a 3/10 to a 6/10.

>>141764205
You can easily search for kanji, but at a glance you wouldn't be able to know 100% for sure the reading or meaning.

>>141764230
>Could you give examples of some difficult books?
Anything by Murakami
Phrases longer than an oration by Plato, esoteric kanji usage, and constant switching between internal and external narration
It's well written, but a nightmare for a non-native speaker

>>141764264
Like 70% of LNs targeted at girls follow a "Good girl falls in love with a bad boy and tries to mend him of his delinquent ways" plot.
The remaining 30% is reverse harems and yuri, which as a genre in its entirety is marketed only to girls.

>>141764264
A girl falls in love with a boy...

Unable to confess everything literally gets in her way but she still manages to bitch about something

>>141762640
Bunch of idiots that associate anime adaptations of LNs with battle harems.

>>141764396
>Anything by Murakami

kek, fuck off retard.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>141764382
English or moon.

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>>141764439
>I read Muramasa you're like a little child to me

This is how you look right now

>>141764396
They have yuri LNs for girls? I wonder if that bad boy thing also have rape like shoujo slut.

>>141764439
I love these kinds of posts. You always know the guy who posted that is a complete moron.
>Y-you don't know w-what you're talking about, b-baka!

>>141764491
>>141764517
Murakami is babby-tier literature. Fucking 化物語 is a harder read.

And the fact that you even bring up kanji in your analysis of difficulty shows that you're still at a low level. According to you chuuni VNs must be really good!

>>141764481
1984. Kino's Journey (that one's even a pretty easy read).

>>141762640
>people think the original story sucks
>how could they like the anime when it changes the story?

>>141764644
Why does the original story suck? How does the anime improve it?

>>141763865
Because that's what the publisher decides to call them.

>>141764506
>I wonder if that bad boy thing also have rape like shoujo slut.
They almost always have it, it's a staple of the genre
It's always 'pseudo-rape' though. Like, the girl will be getting on the boy's nerves, so he slams his hand on the wall she's standing against, holding her there, says a few choice words, then kisses her

And then an entire arc spanning like two volumes starts, all about the resulting internal drama "oh no he kiss-raped me even though I hate him! But DO I hate him???"

>>141764584
Like you'd know if you were actually trying to inform people in a thread made for discussing LNs, instead of trying to win a dick-swinging competition about whose Japanese is better, books are written and targeted towards a certain age, and will contain kanji appropriate for the grade the expected reader is in.

So while your average LN will only contain kanji a highschooler would know, an adult-oriented book will have a wider variety of them, and less common vocabulary used.

The "You should know them anyway" argument only works for foreign learners. A native Japanese person won't be able to read a 'normal' book as a young teen, even if it's "babby-tier" as you call it.

Besides, bake is hard to read only because Nisio hates punctuation and writes phrases that span an entire page.

>>141764705
It has been already answered in the thread like six times.

>>141764705
>People explain why the stories and writing are garbage
>Shit eating 14 year olds will start asking for actual proof and claim the answers given were all subjective
If you like battle academy haremshit, you're retarded. End of story.

>>141764791
And yet you watch anime.

>>141764773
>It has been already answered in the thread like six times.

So it takes out character depth and adds in kawaii voices. Got it.

>So while your average LN will only contain kanji a highschooler would know, an adult-oriented book will have a wider variety of them, and less common vocabulary used.

Please give some examples of this because I haven't encountered it at all.

Is this a Japan only thing or do they market Japanese translations of Harry Potter for example as LNs too?

>>141764850
You're a very aggressive kind of idiot.

>>141764850
>So it takes out character depth and adds in kawaii voices. Got it.

The "Character depth" that gets taken out is compromised entirely of self-referential statements that repeat what the narration already told you.
Plus, the unsufferable middle-school-tier writing doesn't help either.

>Please give some examples of this because I haven't encountered it at all.
What does giving you examples mean?
You can open any LN and see that the kanji used are just the partial jouyou kanji, plus the chuu and kougaku lists.

>>141764897
They're marketed to young people, but they're still normal books. The translation was made simpler to match the age target, as far as I know.

>>141762640

>Defending LNs
>Meme OP pic

>>141764981
>What does giving you examples mean?

I want to see this advanced kanji usage you're talking about.

>>141762640
Shit stories deserve to/must be butchered.

>>141763935
God this is so fucking accurate that it hurts. I keep trying to enjoy LN (hell, I learned Japanese so I could read them one day), but they are just so BAD. I have yet to find a single Japanese author that actually wrote stories that I could immerse in and enjoy. Have you encountered any?

>>141764205
Just for more info than the others gave, Microsoft IME has a "Drawpad" where you can write out a kanji that you don't know the reading for. You can also search by radicals on a site like Jisho.org

>>141764897
>>141764981
HP is targeted at the same kind of audience so it's a pretty logical thing to do. And personally, the writing wasn't particularly impressive and I wouldn't be surprised if it was considered an above average LN even with a faithful translation.

>>141764981
Talking about translations, I see that the Japanese remember some classics with translation titles.
Count of Monte Cristo is called Bunker King in Japanese or something.

>>141763117
Because I like to control the pacing of the story myself, instead of it being spoon fed to me.

>>141765120
It's just kanji that are not found in the jouyou and school lists.
I mean, it's just something you see in every page, it's not like you can point at one and say "See, this proves it's an adult book!"

>>141765266
They're also usually written with old versions of the kanji
Nowadays titles are mostly left the same though

>>141765224
>Have you encountered any?
Jinrui ha suitai shimashita manages to be a LN while avoiding the terrible writing.
The surreal overtones make comprehension hard at times though.

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>>141765426
>I mean, it's just something you see in every page, it's not like you can point at one and say "See, this proves it's an adult book!"

So your bullshitting.

>>141762640
Because reading poorly written anime scripts is stupid as shit

>>141765492
LNs aren't anime scripts, though.

>>141765450
It's something that permeates every page, like reading a book aimed at grade-schoolers and adult narration side to side.

It's not like you can point at single words and say "See, big word!" as proof that one text is more mature, the general structure tells you that.

>>141765224
What do you think of Mushoku Tensei?

>>141763935
There are good LNs out there

Just not a lot of them

Thankfully I take like 2 weeks to finish one with my shitty Japanese so I'm unlikely to run out anytime soon

>>141765510

>LNs aren't anime scripts, though.

You're right. They're worse.

>>141765538
Not him, but seriously?

BTW, are there any finished LNs that have a complete and somewhat faithful anime adaptation?

>>141762640
LNs are shit 90% of the time. Ruining the story is most times an improvement

>>141765763
Toranora, minus the bit at the end Okada changed for the sake of her forced drama.

>>141765763
Katanagatari

>>141766035
Meant toradora.

>>141766035
>>141766067
Didn't know that, maybe I should try getting the translations and seeing how's the experience differs.

>>141763935
And then you read Mahouka/Yahari.

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>>141766168
>translations

>>141762640
I assume that by
>completely ruin
you mean:
>do the painfully necessary work that the LN's editor should have done in the first place

>claims he can read Japanese
>is only able to come up with EOP meme authors like Murakami and Romeo
hmmmmmmmm

>>141767019
Even people learning Japanese will go into authors that are popular in the west first, just like first-time manga readers will usually read in Japanese series they enjoyed scanlated first.

It's not like the typical Japanese learner would have an extensive knowledge of Japanese prose authors unless they were also famous overseas.

>>141766183
>Yahari
lmaooo

>>141767019
exactly

It's embarrassing to see how elite book readers get when they waste their time watching anime or reading manga.

>>141769398
>my media of choice is inherently more mature!
Please kill yourself.

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>>141762640
Why do people Read LN's and the badly machine translated ones?

A LN will come out once or twice a year and you put up with that as well as garbage translations? Cannot fucking relate.

>>141769681
>Why do people Read LN's and the badly machine translated ones?
ESL teenagers like the crappy wish fulfillment plot, and the broken English is easier for them to read.

>>141769758
This Tbh Senpai

>>141769681
Because LNs are better than pretentious teenagers want to believe.

>>141763117
>People like this exist even on /a/

>>141769842
Have fun getting left on constant cliff hangers while your "Translator" takes months doing one chapter.

>>141769917
I know Japanese. Thanks, though.

>>141769944
>I'm smart enough to learn Japanese
>I read the kinds of LNs that regularly get adapted
Pick one.

>>141769944
Doesn't change the fact that LN's only come up twice a year at most if they aren't SAO tier.

>>141763935
>They're incredibly easy to read compared to a book, both in sentence structure and level of kanji used. They're written specifically to be targeted at middle and high schoolers looking for a simple and unchallenging read.
So they're basically the japanese equivalent of Young Adult Novels?

>>141767019
>I have to name obscure jap authors to prove that I'm a nippon with a big e-dick
I think you're kind of a dick

>>141763580
>The entry level for LNs is much lower than manga.
Not true at all.

>>141764584
>Shitting on Murakami for no reason
Wew lad

>>141764347
They're just about as common as good LN writers though.

>>141764766
Literally this.

>>141764897
I've heard Sherlock Holmes books have been marketed as LNs there.

>>141770249
It's not a great comparison, because there are LNs targeted at adults as well.
LNs are a format (serialized books of novella length) more than a hard genre, and the term has only really been in common use since the late 80s. Arguing about the exact definition is a great way to start a flame war on 2ch.
The last ten years has seen a rash of carbon-copy YA trash that's just angling for an an anime adaptation, so many people associate all LNs with that.

>>141763865
https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=78212
Read the first three pages of this thread. I know >animesuki and all but really it answers your question quite well.

I wouldn't bother with the thread after the third page if I were you, though.

>>141771875
To be fair, that thread is from 2009, and I would trust an animesuki oldfag over the average /a/ user today.

>>141762640
What are the proportions of LNfags reading garbage Baka-Tsuki translations and treating it as high literature vs. those that read professional translations?

>>141771426
I read that Sherlock Holmes has more than one translation with one of them being an easy read.

>>141773496
>professional translations
>good
Nah.

>>141774517
Didn't say that they are, but in comparison with B-T, of course. What kind of bottom feeder are you?

>>141774802
BT translations vary greatly in quality.

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I haven't found a LN in English with proper grammar/sentence syntax yet. Does such a thing exist?

>>141763935

I like how Japs are so retarded they still use a writing system that has different tiers of difficulty.

>>141775010
Yes, because it's so easy to completely change the foundation of your entire language.

>>141775049

Easy? No.

Doable? Yes.

The groundwork was already laid by Christian missionaries. Japanese translates very well to Latin script. Chinese, by contrast, doesn't.

LN are the Hunger Games and Twilight of Japan.

Which is why they tend to be garbage, and only worth it if animated.

>>141774887
If it isn't Js06 they are garbage.

That nigga is too good to be doing this shit for free.

LNs are for creators who cant draw manga

>>141762640
Maybe, just maybe, it's different people doing those two things? What a novel idea.

>>141775010
Anon, all languages have different levels of vocabulary. The difference is just that you can sort of pronounce English words semi-accurately without knowing them.

If I'm going to spend my time reading a book, I will read an actual good one and not some piss poor translated garble with cute anime girls every 10 pages meant to distract from the garbage currently before my eyes like a panty shot in genericharemanime#2305

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>>141775175
Also for people who can't make it in writing standard novels and have to settle for some easy copy paste shit.

>>141775133
My standards are probably as high as his but I can't even translate one-tenth as fast as he can.

Though I've heard that there's at least another translator around whose translations are js06-tier but I can't remember exactly who.

>>141775079
You're talking about a country filled with people who love nothing more than jerking off to their own culture. They are not going to throw away something so crucial to their national identity as their language.

The closest it will come is what we have now - English words being brought into Japanese and the majority of Japanese people studying English. As time passes the barriers will blur more and more. The use of our writing system in computers also pushes in this direction.

Why am I taking the bait...

>>141775288

Vocabulary =/= basic legibility

Japan still has more or less complex vocabulary, they just have another layer of bullshit for literally no reason.

I'm not convinced Latin is THE BEST way to structure language, but it has to be pretty close.

>>141763094
As everything else, everything is 90% shit, except light novels exceed that 90% and go to an extra 8%.

Frankly, anybody, even you can write a light novel. And then, the next year have a anime adaptation. That's why light novels nowadays are profitable, they read like scripts and the author want that quick-rich scheme.

Granted, some light novels like Gekkou, HakoMaria, Oregairu are great because they read like novels, you can easily pick them up and get absored. Although, that is own biasim talking.

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LN threads should not be allowed on a Anime/Manga board.

Why can't these fags fuck off to /jp/ where they belong or at least piss off too /lit/?

I dont like Light novel for the reason theyre not using the medium to its fullest potential

Ever noticed how there are classic books/literature but almost no classic comic books?

>>141775432
fuck off, child

>>141763292
>There are no generals for LNs
You're kidding, right?

LNs that earn adaptations get discussed, even those that get announced for an upcoming anime get discussed.

Take that shit to /jp/ otherwise, it has nothing to do with popularity.

>>141763437
>normies
Go back to /r9k/ nigger we use normalfag here

>>141775455
I don't think you know what a light novel is, and I also think you're a retard who knows nothing about comics but somehow expects them to have the same number of classics as a medium that's been around for thousands of years longer.

>>141775432
t. Nipplemod

Anime and manga belong in those boards as much as r/a/nobe does.

>>141775455
Are you sure you don't have brain damage?

>>141775553
>anime and manga belong on the anime and manga board as much as LNs do
This is just dumb. We kicked VNs out, LNs deserve the same.

>>141775455
Kill yourself.

>>141775542
No. Just because youre writing for tweens/young adults doesnt excuse for bad writing

>>141775394
Although these are classics I'd like to add Guin Saga, Legend Of The Galactic Heores, the Boogiepop series, so light novels are good in their own right.

>>141775432
unless its for a currently airing show, LN and VN should not be on /a/. LN are not a visual medium.

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>>141775432
This.

Webtoons and LN garbage have been allowed on here for some long it pisses me off with how it's blatantly ignoring the rules and mods won't do shit. You people will shit on /v/ related crap but allow this crap?

>>141775622
What does that have to do with anything I said?

>>141775455
LNs aren't comic books, do you even speak English?

>>141775575
>we
Speak for your goddamn self.

LNs and VNs that earned adaptation usually get discusse within their respective threads.

I thought /jp/ was the most autistic of the weeaboo boards, but these latest posts here make me begin to question that belief...

>>141775788
>Speak for your goddamn self.
Yeah, I guess I should have been considerate of newfags like you who weren't here when we did it.

>>141775835
So you don't browse either enough to know the answer? Lurk more.

The best LN adaptations are the ones you dont suspect is based on an LN

>>141775835
>...
Fuck off, cancer.

>>141775941
That's because you have built yourself a mental image that LN=terribly written fanfic/harem. It's just a fucking medium, only problem is that EOPs will never be able to experience any good LNs due to lack of accessibility as well as the garbage translators' lack of ability.

>>141775788
No one wants fucking sourcefags to be banned from anime threads, you idiot, they want people talking about random unadapted LNs, or using "it has an anime!" as an excuse to discuss the LNs exclusively every day, to fuck off.

>>141776064

LNs are bad, period.

There are exceptions, but LNs are still bad in the same way that blacks are stupid.

>>141776151
sour grapes?

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>>141776151
wew lad calling someone else stupid with that argumentation sure is brave

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>about the time that school lets out
>suddenly thread filled with angry autists

Gee, wonder if there is a connection.

>>141776151
Everything is bad in its overwhelming majority. That means jack shit. Anime's bad. Manga's bad. Movies are bad. Books are bad. And every other form of entertainment.

>>141776252

Tbh I wish I were still in school rather than being 24 years old and jobless.

>>141776252
Only a small fraction of 4chan is in your time zone, you dumb shit.

>>141776252
It's 11.25 pm around here and /a/'s average age is in the early to mid 20s. Fuck off retard.

I can read Japanese and I enjoy LNs.

Deal with it.

>>141776523
>>>/blogspot/

>>141776571
You mean wordpress right?

>>141775049
Korea did, although they arguably fucked up with Hangul. Lots of South East Asian countries also switched from Chinese or their own scripts to Latin.

The main problem for Japan would be Sino-Japanese words with all their homophones.

Manga board when?

>>141776626
>although they arguably fucked up with Hangul

There is no argument over this. Everyone likes Hangul.

>>141775133
>Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon
>To Aru Majutsu no Index
>Heavy Object
>Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou
intothetrash.jpg

>The Zashiki Warashi of Intellectual Village
>City Series
>The Weakness of Beatrice the Level Cap Holy Swordswoman That Made Being the Strongest Even More Trouble – His Name? Boo Boo
>My Vampire Older Sister and Zombie Little Sister Have Gotten Into a Pretty Serious Fight…Only in Virtual Reality Though
>The Unexplored Summon://Blood-Sign
>Clash of Hexennacht
>A Simple Series
>The Circumstances Leading to Waltraute's Marriage
>Owari no Chronicle
Any of those actually worthwhile?

>>141776626
Korean sounds like someone choking a Jew under the bed. Fucking garbage language beyond belief.

And as you said, the problem with Japanese is the very limited amount of sounds resulting in so many homophones.

>>141776705
Wrong thread?

>>141776926
>The Weakness of Beatrice the Level Cap Holy Swordswoman That Made Being the Strongest Even More Trouble – His Name? Boo Boo
>My Vampire Older Sister and Zombie Little Sister Have Gotten Into a Pretty Serious Fight…Only in Virtual Reality Though
These sound like quality novels.

>>141776926
I meant his translations are good.
Not the series.

>>141777302
I get you, but it's wasted effort if he only translates garbage. Looks like all the stuff I haven't heard of is from the Raildex and Horizon on the Middle of Nowhere authors.

>>141776991
I just spent 6 months there. You get used to it for the most part and it's actually quite fun to speak. You can sound like a whiny bitch as an adult male and no one will look at you strangely.

>>141775394
>Oregairu
Fuck off.

>>141778514
Sounds like someone needs to read the genuine thing.

>>141775394

I thought about doing the Western version of this, just cobble together a Twilight-esque story and make millions. Seems worth.

>>141778768
Good luck. I won't buy it.

>>141778908

Well, you're not a teenage girl, are you?

>>141779178
I'm just a little girl. Haven't hit puberty yet.

>>141776926
The Horizon novels are good though.

Autosage desu