As far as illustration goes, is Prison School the best display

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raw photoshop talent maybe

>pic related
Hand drawn manga masterpiece

>>141187457
This is an incoherent mess though.

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>>141187218

The air gear author always impressed me with his shit

Hamada Yoshikazu

>>141187654
>Drawing was great
>Story was BSd

>>141187218
read more manga.

>>141187882
this.

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>>141187547
>Gon
>Incoherent mess
For fucks sake anon a 8 year old deaf dumb Ugandan child could follow the series, it has no dialogue.

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>>141187218
True display of skill

>>141187457
Gon is great, but unless I'm retarded and missing something, shouldn't the sand only bulge like that in front of the ostrich, not Gon's foot?

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>>141187218

>>141188001
Yamamoto's art is honestly ugly as fuck.

>>141188001
Sauce?

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Talent coming through

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>>141188050
Posted all the time

>>141188049
In some respects I agree. I still think it's pretty fantastic. Felt appropriate for this story at least.

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I would say Me and the Devil Blues has the best art. Same author as Prison School, actually.

>>141188601
The absolute madwoman.

>>141187218
I used to think that too but with the latest chapters, I doubt it. Hiramoto has gone sloppy

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Here's the "I've been reading manga for like 6 months and these are the best artists" list.

Hiroaki Samura
Takehiko Inoue
Shinichi Sakamoto
Akira Hiramoto
Masashi Tanaka

I liked Eyeshield 21 artist

>>141190800
I think he'd get more snob love if his style wasn't generic anime face #329.

>>141187654
he should just draws, let someone else handles the story

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>>141187218
Yas' gundam the origin art is pretty good, so is the art for feddie hooligans

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Weekly

>>141191114
Sakamoto employs the population of an entire chinese province as assistants.

>talentless/tasteless plebs valuing hyper-realism so highly

Honestly mangaka like ono are much better

>>141189288
Wow, that is good.

>>141191184
OK well who do you think is a good manga drawer then

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>>141191163
worth it

>>141191184
I like Taiyou Matsumoto's work in Takemitsu Zamurai

>>141191276
I literally listed one in my post.

>>141191307
I can absolutely agree with you. Interesting/unique > autistic hyper realism

>>141191425
I thought you were being post ironic

>>141191489
Do you really not value series like five leaves' art style?

>>141191549
I mean it's great that you're a fan of that art but come on now

>>141191114
is that george washington to the left?

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>>141191799
Nah its a bunch of Frenchmen

Sakamoto went full eyebrows a little too much

>>141191754
Hyper realism is normally the first step before learning to abstract it.

>>141187218

When's the next chapter due? Last I saw, there was a break for a couple of weeks.

>>141187218
Honestly his work in Ore to Akuma no Blues is a lot better, prison school is meh.

Check Ryuuroden for some mad combination of tone and ink crosshatch shadings

>>141191549
What's outstanding about Natsume Ono's art? Her face designs are a bit unique but aside from that it's pretty generic imo.

Surprised nobody has said Tsutomu Nihei yet.

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>>141187218

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>>141187218
nah

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>>141192606

>>141192606
Why are you posting a photoshop filtered picture?

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>>141192654

>>141192683
Too lazy to find a better one right now. Inio asano is probably one of the better examples of raw talent next to the guy who does the vagabond manga though.

>>141192606
Oh, yes, Mr. Trace-Photographs

>>141192768
If by raw talent you mean photoshop filter talent then sure.

>>141190853
He's doing that for his current series, Biorg Trinity. It isn't working.

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>>141187218

>>141192843
This manga documentary series covered him. It's pretty amazing how he composes his pages. But yeah, it seems to boil down to "photograph, filter, add detail/shading, insert characters."
Work smarter. Not harder.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3b4f2x

>>141191549
How to read this manga without buying it?

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>>141187218
Yabuki

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>>141194131
>"We've pretty much resolved what little conflict we had, what do we do with the sadistic brown loli shapeshifter now?"
>"Fuse her to the main character"
God bless Japan

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I have no delusions about his talent relative to the industry as a whole, but Hiroyama's stuff is pretty damn impressive compared to the shitty work he started with.

>>141192904

He should have reiterated

Let someone GOOD write

I'd enjoy this guy drawing hxh since togashi is a lazy sack of shit

>>141195047
Nah, Togashi was legit sick rather than lazy and as much as I want more HxH I wouldn't trust it with another mangaka. I'm really partial to Togashi's style and panelling.

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>>141191114
>>141191307
I just picked this up, it's stunning. And I expected suffering but holy fuck this is hurting me more than anticipated.

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I really like Yuichi Yokoyama style, his paneling and use perspective is great,

>>141192533
>telling anyone to pick up ryuurouden
I mean, I like it and all (though I'd like it more if Masumi would get god damn rescued already) but we're like three hundred chapters behind, scanlations are dead, and it's still fucking going. There's almost no chance anyone who picks it up now will ever see the whole thing in English.

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>>141191184
Who's the Japanese Mike Mignola?

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It's definitely not the best, but I just wanted to give a little mention to the artist of Crows/Worst.

His art really improved a lot since the start of the manga.

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No Abe Youichi fans?

Who is the mest horror mangaka

>>141192964
found it nvm

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Joe's Adventure has some pretty good pages

>>141200157
>Killer queen
Is this real?, is it his stand?

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Objectively the best manga artist when it comes to raw detail.

>>141188068
jesus, i love his artstyle so fucking much

>>141200255
>"Look at this detail!"
>Can't see jack
Post other pic m8

>>141200217
Sorry for spoiling, senpai.
You better go catch up with the latest chapter.

>>141200217
it's kira not gappy
we knew this from one of the first chapters

>>141200292
That's exactly what makes it good, idiot. Peasant manga artists like the ones you love would add artificial light to panels that should be close to pitch black.

>>141200378
Then show me the way, and post more.

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>>141200419
I could post a full gallery, but there's no real point for peasants like yourself, who will never truly appreciate great art.

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I think we all know the answer to that question, OP.

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>>141187218
How do I git gud at drawing?

I have a big story in the works that you might even hear (or shitpost) about someday, but I'm gonna have to commission some artfag mimicking my style to draw the book for me because it takes me 10 fucking hours to draw one page of panels JUST right, and after it's all said and done I still think it could be better.

What do?

>>141200507
Practice, you'll be faster and faster.

>>141200516
everytime

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>Art thread
>No Nihei
You all disappoint me.

>>141196859
this seems super interesting, where did you find it? i'd be interested in downloading it.

>>141191114
>>141191307
I am skimming through Innocent, is it simply torture porn?

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Kentaro Miura

>>141200507
10 hours for one page is normal dude

>>141200507
start drawing more right now

>>141200650
No, it's a lot of homolust and repressed angst, with occasional torture porn.

>>141200719
>10 hours for one page is normal
Really? I feel like I'm inefficient as fuck and I get tunnel vision BAD. I'm on my second draft so it is easier, but I feel like I should be getting this done quicker.

>>141200539
>>141200722
I will start drawing right now. A new character is about to enter the story so I'll prolly get the design just right after I fold all these fucking towels. I work overnight (where I do most of my work on the book)

And while we're on the subject, let me pick your brains for a second. How do you fags feel about dinosaurs in a quasi-serious tone?

>>141200507
>it takes me 10 fucking hours to draw one page of panels JUST right, and after it's all said and done I still think it could be better.

Keep in mind that the projects you finish in life are more important than the projects you start. Heard this quote a while back.Think about the time and effort you're spending on just a single page when there are people who have entire volumes of work completed already. Is it really worth it? Do you want to hang art in a museum or create manga?

Do you guys download or watch in-browser, i can hardly find any download links to most of the obscure ones in this thread.

>>141200812
>Is it really worth it?
Yes because this might honestly make me a fuckload of money. I know fags always think their story is good, but I honestly think I have something here. I've been working on it for 10 years (the story and characters anyway, but I only just started my first draft two years ago and just began working on the second).

>>141200849
pitch me the story please

>>141187457
>raw photoshop talent maybe
Have you ever tried to compare drawing physically and digitally? "Photoshop talent" has nothing to do with being able to draw well, like Akira Hiramoto

>>141200836
I go through too much manga too quickly to warrant downloading them all.

The only ones I download are the real special ones like Berserk or Kokou no Hito

>>141200849
I was more referencing you comment about still thinking your efforts need more work even after you're done. It's important to force yourself to move on to the next step and not get stuck in the minute details that will keep you from finishing. I wish I told myself this years ago when I was beginning to write.

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>>141198211
Douman Seiman.

My personal fave has got to be Jiro Matsumoto.

nevermind this shit manga OP holy fuck me and the devil blues just got updated, why arent there any thread on it

>>141200873
I really can't for two reasons.

1. it's not so much about the story as it is the characters
2. I don't wanna leak my ideas anywhere so I don't get Jewed

I guess I could tell you a bit about the main character without revealing too many details.

>orphan who grew up on the streets
>hates humanity
>crisis happens that threatens the world
>governments and boarders across the globe collapse
>MC basically journeys across the world
>meeting people
>some good, most evil
>slowly discovers that humanity is not all bad and that despite the overwhelming amount of human slime, humanity still might be redeemable based on the actions of the few good
Time travel is involved in this story, or I guess you could say it's the motif, so wish me luck. It's been a pain in the fucking ass tying everything together to make sense. That's been half the battle.

>>141200936
Oh, I understand. Thanks mate.

Top 3 artists imo are Hiroe Rei, Takihiko Inoue, and Akira Toriyama. They all have such distinct styles.

I really wanted to add Miura but his anatomy is inconsistent.

>>141201059
sounds deep

>>141201111
Yeah, kind of. The endgame of the whole thing is my favorite part, as you basically find out about existence and reality. Lots of Schrodinger's Cat type stuff.

That being said, it's also heavily action-oriented. Through most of the story, it's mostly about the MC and his journeys with action sprinkled about, so there's plenty of substance and when action happens, it's satisfying as fuck for the buildup, at least I think so.

>>141187218
Kumeta, Takehiko Inoue.
Mind you, they have style, Prison School's only "quality" comes from up-close full-page illustrations that get a little bit more work than usual. They all look shiny as fuck, it's like the people are made out of plastic.

>>141201239
Me and the Devil Blues doesn't really have that problem.

>>141201326
That one's still on the backlog for me, but I heard it's really well drawn.

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Itoh yu

>>141201239
>shiny
how can a drawing be shiny?
>plastic
plastic doesn't shine

>>141201239
kumeta is a meme

>>141201422
>how can a drawing be shiny?
When the artist goes ham on the screentones/shading.
Alternatively, when they draw those gossy "spots" all over a characters skin.

>>141192088
Actually, many many japanese artists start off copying popular artists/artists they like, and many don't really learn how to draw "realistic" (which is to say, not highly deformed) before developing their own style. You also see this with western artists like the ones that infest tumblr and deviantart.

Not disparaging the artists that do it well, but I feel I should point out that it's not uncommon for artists to try to skip the "hyper-realism" phase of learning, and are sometimes successful.

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>>141191114
Masuiso Captain.

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>>141187218
>who is even coming close to this level of skill

>>141201525
But that looks awful.

>>141201525
It looks ok, but wasn't there a time where the manga looked really shitty, like, "kubo got Parkinson" tier shitty?.

>>141201525
What the fuck is this?

>>141201552
Already posted itt m8

>>141200157
>Joe's Adventure has some pretty good pages
And that's not one of them.

>>141201525
>>141201614
Ok now you are being obvious

>>141201614
quit posting this crap, it's not well drawn and the lines are cringey as fuck, I don't see any purpose for even having saved these

>>141198528
I think it got really bad near the end.

Everyone's scrawny and the noses are awful. They look like junkies

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>>141201614
Eww, that shit looks awful.

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>>141201648

>>141201672
what even is this, is that Naruto in the bottom left? Jesus Christ

>>141201672
This is webcomic tier art.

>>141201672
>>141201614
I don't know how it's possible after how bad the series already got by its end, but they've managed to create an affront to Naruto.

>>141200507
>it takes me 10 fucking hours to draw one page of panels JUST right
The trick is to not worry about getting it "just right". You're never gonna manage that and still keep up a decent release schedule. You have to learn to cut the shit when it's due, not when it's ready.

>>141200719
>10 hours for one page is normal dude
Sure, if you're not riding up on a deadline and it's an important spread with lots of panels/details. Otherwise 10 hours is a gross misuse of time.

t. working (though relatively novice) comic author as of 2 years.

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>>141201818
>10 hours is a gross misuse of time

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>>141200157
this. Araki is the current absolute master now that Mizuki is die

>>141201422
High polish plastic gives off a characteristic reflection together with a shine. You can tell what's plastic from those two. If you have a laptop you can probably see what I'm talking about. Although to be fair Prison School looks glossier, almost like a photograph.

>>141201444
Try harder.

>>141201842
Not him, but depending on a release schedule that seems like it could be true. I mean, if that were a typical weekly manga, you literally don't have ten hours in a week for every page.

>>141201913
Right, that makes sense.

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>>141201854
Jojo without the aesthetics would be pretty awful m8. While I like jojo, the anatomy and detail aren't exactly the manga strongest points, so I wouldn't say that araki is the best

>>141201995
>>141202023
bravo

>>141202036
Yeah, sorry, I forgot to post with the pic.

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>>141201842
>>141201913
Think of it like this:
Say you have 100 chapters to draw. Each chapter is on average, we'll say 16 pages long, at a release rate of 1 chapter a week like in a weekly magazine. 1600 pages to draw, which will take 667 days to draw if you take 10 hours a page.
Now consider how long your story is. If you've been deliberating so much, I'll bet you had more than 100 chapters in mind. Perhaps more than 1000. Realistically, you could die of old age before you finish your comic.

As someone who's working his way through making his own extremely long comic, I've had to think about this issue too. It would be nice to be able to make it perfect through drawing it and redrawing it until it looks perfect, but doing that will just result in you dying before you can finish the work at all. You need to learn to either get it perfect the first time or not at all.

Is it me or /a/ is really slow today?

>>141202114
The more immediate problem there would be what >>141201913 mentioned - sixteen pages a week at ten hours a page gives you a grand total of eight hours a week where you aren't drawing.

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>>141202114
>You need to learn to either get it perfect the first time or not at all.
Shit nigger.

That being said, the story I'm working on has 3 arcs, so probably 3 books for each arc. Each book would probably be 500 or so pages.

If I ever do get this published though, I wouldn't be surprised if they had me add a shitton of filler so they could sell more than 3 books.

>>141202157
Yes, that too.

>>141202023
the image you posted literally has the characters cropped terribly to make them look wider, you can't exactly blame araki's proportions on that

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Don't forget Toriyama.

>>141202191
>That being said, the story I'm working on has 3 arcs, so probably 3 books for each arc. Each book would probably be 500 or so pages.
Oh, if that's the case then by all means be a perfectionist, provided you don't have much plans for your career afterwards. I'm speaking purely from a shounen jump chapter-a-week-every-week-for-years mindset. If you were aiming for more of a western indie comic kind of method then you're fine doing what you were doing.

That manga about mountain climbing had stellar art.

>>141202114
Wouldn't how much time you spent a week not make a difference to how long it would take to finish? I mean, you're on a weekly schedule, so regardless of your work time, the published story progresses at the same rate.

>>141202269
I dunno, I guess we'll see.

What do you have to show to a publisher to get a story published? Like, the first couple of chapters and a plot pitch? I was thinking of bringing them a final product and having them take a look, then maybe collaborate with an editor and mass-market the thing. Is that how it would work? How would "auditioning" for Shonen Jump work? I'd stake my soul that my story is 100x better than 85+% of the crap SJ has had over the years.

>>141202339
WSJ is aiming for a broad audience including a lot of middle-school boys, obviously they aren't going to be publishing the best shit.

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>>141202023
>Jojo without the aesthetics
>it would be a fucking blank page, your right !
>anatomy
If you want realism, got read a fuckng movie.
>detail
are you blind or do you only like fucking dot art like every goddman shonen artist does. go read Punpun or something

>>141202251
this indeed, Toriyama is insane

>>141202251
He's a great mecha drawer.

>>141202433
Yeah. That being said, I totally wouldn't mind being lumped in with all that shit, as #1 it would stand out and #2 it would get a lot of attention in such a popular magazine.

>>141202320
It does if you miss weeks because you didn't finish the chapter in time. Plus you can use extra time to work ahead of schedule. You could finish the comic before the last arc is even released if you're diligent and don't get lazy/dont have a social life.

>>141202339
>What do you have to show to a publisher to get a story published?
Can't help you there, I'm self-published webcomic grade. But judging from what I've learned being a fan of manga, the pocess seems to work by basically pitching your comic and delivering a one shot sort of prototype version to deliver the premise and tone, and the editor decides whether you're worth the spot in the magazine. I'm not an expert from the industry or anything, just speaking from my experience of drawing a comic for a relatively short span of time.

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>>141202506
>delivering a one shot sort of prototype version to deliver the premise and tone, and the editor decides whether you're worth the spot in the magazine
That makes sense anon. I wonder how you would even contact them. Or, what the fuck is stopping them from just copying your idea and publishing it themselves and say they never even got my book? Calling it their own original idea?

>ITT: filtered photographs

>>141202251
He draws sameface, but his vehicles and monsters make things to my dick

>>141202554
>I wonder how you would even contact them.
I'd assume you'd call them and schedule a meeting.
>Or, what the fuck is stopping them from just copying your idea and publishing it themselves and say they never even got my book?
Then who's gonna draw it? Come on, they sell comic books, not comic book scripts and ideas, dude.

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>>141202597
Here's some Kuroda, now shut up.

You know it's good when even doujin artists are intimated by its raw skill.

>>141202554
You would sue them. And the judge would see that you'd contacted them and presented an idea, and that the idea you claimed to have presented was exactly like what they'd published, and they would lose the case.

>>141202712
>>141202624
Yeah, that makes sense. I'm just a paranoid freak.

I wonder though, do you think they'd look into your background or anything like that? Like see what degrees or whatever you have? Or would they just look at the raw product?

>>141202742
>I wonder though, do you think they'd look into your background or anything like that? Like see what degrees or whatever you have? Or would they just look at the raw product?
That would depend on the publication, wouldn't it? But as long as it doesnt interfere with your ability to deliver a a quality product on time, I can't see it mattering.

You're overthinking this. A comic book is just a comic book, not a federal fucking issue. If you can make a product that makes people want to buy their magazine, then they will want to hire you.

>>141187882
This. If OP has to use fucking mangapanda then he clearly needs to lurk more.

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>>141200507
1. Do a practise run on each page's plannel layout
2. Refine your sick figures and background
3. rinse and repeat

>>141187457
>>141187955
>proper scans never

>>141191114
I'm pretty sure there is LOTS of photo manipulation

But still, would love to see the author's full method to do all that. Does he lives in France to get access to all those references? It's as detailed as it can be.

I'm annoyed by those fucboi samefaces though.

>>141202876
Alright, thanks mate.

>>141202947
>stick figures
I feel dumb.

Guys, how do I draw a female character without making her look sexy, but at the same time seem sexy?

I was thinking maybe a thick winter coat on top and scarf with a short dress or tights or something on the bottom. What do?
>conservative but sexy
I just can't do it.

>>141191425
Innocence "realism" is as unique as it can be though. You can perfectly recognize it, and the faces aren't just plain "realism" either.

>>141200478
Dude, this page is clearly a manipulated photo you know.

>>141203091
cute face, normal body type.
the attractive face part is important.

>>141203091
>Guys, how do I draw a female character without making her look sexy, but at the same time seem sexy?
Well for one thing by not wanting to give her traits that are contradictory.

If what you mean is to draw an attractive character that isn't flaunting her stuff, then just... do that? I don't see the problem here. Just draw a cute/sexy girl but in an outfit that doesn't show a lot of skin and isn't fitted too tightly.

>>141201651
Good thing Worst came back strong and gave us lots more big dudes.

>>141203173
>>141203178
eyelashes on side or top (of the eye) would you say?

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Yoshikazu draws the best female bodies.

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>>141203040
>stick figures
As in turning them from a body frame to a fleshed out oc.

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>>141203253
I love how his work gives off a traditionnal look even though it's all digital. Works well with the setting of the story too.

>>141203246
Sure? This isn't /ic/, so not the best place to be discussing minutia of art. I'd the question over there if I were you.

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>>141203302
And I didn't really like most of his colored pics back then, but since a few volumes he really has been doing a fucking great job.

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>>141203340
We're just talking casual here m9.

>>141203091
Use photos as reference, then slowly get the fell how the body works.

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>>141203365

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What's your drawing master /a/?
I mean, the author of the philosophy and/or technique you use.
Mine was bert dobson, with keys to drawing.

>>141203168
Who said it wasn't, idiot?

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>>141203388
> posts on a best manga artists thread
> now THIS is some great art guys
> but it's just a photoshop'd photo
> who said it wasn't?

>>141203752
Photography is a form of art.

>>141203809
Yeah, so next I guess I'll post some statues? We're on /a/ you fucking retard.
>>>/p/

Surprised no one posted Takeshi Obata and Masami Kurumada

>>141203864
>Yeah, so next I guess I'll post some statues?
If it's in a manga page then it applies both to this board and this thread. Photography is a form of art. If is used in a manga page it is part of the page's art. Ergo, photography can be manga art. I don't care whether you like photobashed manga art or not, but it's a perfectly valid way to create a particular look and atmosphere without committing what's essentially suicide-by-workload.

>>141194131
Source? Google gives me nothing and so does "yabuki" on batoto

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>>141200516
Only he can get away with this.

>>141200507
Go read the /IC sticky u cuck

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>>141187218
The amount of detail in I am a hero is above and beyond everything else.

>>141204093
How new must you be to not know To-Love Ru ?

>>141192456
If you prefer the more realistic work, that is.

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>>141201525
Here's the other end of that spectrum.

>>141204384
Pretty new to /a/ actually, but thanks for the manga name anyways

>>141200507
Most American comic artists I know do about a page a day. Drawing comics is a lot of hard work & takes a while. Of course practice makes you faster, but but unless you got the money to hire a top notch pro it's gonna take some time to get a page done. Anyone who is fast with low rates just isn't that good.

>>141204461
Spoopy

>>141201059
Yeah, but what does your MC want? To destroy humanity?

>>141204351
It's really not that detailed compared to many other manga, several of which have already been posted.

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>>141204461
Samura is totally an artists artist.

He doesn't really do the autistic detail stuff, but his work is just so fucking solid and fits together so well.

He also draws the best abused waifus.

>>141204708
Ouch, that background's a bit of a mess.

>>141201239
You are full of hot shit. Please fuck off with that crit that doesn't make any sense. I do agree that's there's less focus on the backgrounds in Prison School, but as long as you set up the space there's no need for constant background porn.

>>141204755
But it doesn't matter.

Because it's not actually important. You aren't supposed to look at it. It fills out the rest of the piece so you don't have some huge fuckugly blank space.

Making that background detailed would make that page worse.

Overly detailed art isn't the only sign of a good artist, especially when you guys keep posting photoshop filtered photos.

>>141204862
Excuses. The only justification for making that background a messy scribble is running out of time. Not everything is a measured step, even experienced artists mess up sometimes.

>>141200507
You can't. You should draw everyday for 8+ hours for 5 years +

>>141205024
This isn't true though? You put more effort in what you want people to focus on. People have been doing this for years, centuries even.

>>141205024
Are you just not understanding how a lack of overall definition is good in this case?

This is pretty much fucking composition 101 here.

>>141205024
>Excuses. The only justification for making that background a messy scribble is running out of time.
autist pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qIW_u0WSTM&f

>>141205126
>>141205182
All well and good, but the very fact that I even brought this up is evidence that he just kind of fucked up here, because it's not having the intended effect and it's distracting me from the focus of the page.

I'm specifically referring to the top right, where it looked like someone dared the dude to draw the bush/tree/whatever with his eyes closed. The top left is fine and has the intended effect.

I'm not saying he's wrong to draw the background in less detail, I'm not saying it's a bad picture or that his composition is wrong. I'm pointing out a flaw that is, to me, quite glaring and obviously distracting.

If you were right, then there would be no discussion here because there would have been nothing for me to complain about. Again, even great artists mess up sometimes.

>>141187218
Obviously not, be glad you didn't post this in /ic/

Someone post Sun Ken Rock

>>141203614
That's stupid, so you can't draw anything from your mind? Please read some loomis.

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>>141187218
Kakegurui's artist is pretty good too

>>141200650
>skimming
>Innocent

Please drop it, you clearly don't deserve it.

>>141205420
But don't post any women, because it reveals that Boichi is incapable of making them look distinct.

>>141205538
>pretty good
Stop deluding yourself. Your picture looks shitty.

>>141205672
just an opinion dude. no need to be triggered

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>No Masakazu Katsura

For shame /a/.

>>141205770
The thread is about raw talent, not what you think looks good.

>>141205912

art is subjective, you can't win m8

>>141205939
Nah, things like what good anatomy, proportions, shading and perspective are aren't subjective.

>>141205871
Did he just decide to give up trying when drawing her lower 3/5th?

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>>141205983
>141205983


and kagegurui does that well within it's style. are we done here?

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>>141205871
His art was only exceptional in Zetman.

And everybody fucking hates Zetman.

>>141205983
>proportions
Why proportions, though?

>>141203253
>I missed the new chapter
Fuck, thanks for the heads up

>>141205271
The issue is that the two main figures are dark and the sword that the one on the left is holding points directly to the light background drawing your eye there first.

I do agree that may not have been the intention of the artist, but that's what ended up happening. This shot should have composed a bit differently. That I can agree with.

>>141205390
No disagrees that Prison School's art is really good there when it is posted there.

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>>141206070
>His art was only exceptional in Zetman.
His art has been exceptional since Video Girl Ai.

>>141203752
Whenever I see this mangaka drawing on his channel I never see him tracing photo reference though? Did I miss something? His does use reference, but so does every other artist?

I do agree that this is very good.

>>141206222
Are you serious? The best of all manga? I'd like to see proof of that. The art isn't bad, but it's nothing special. You sound like someone who'd think the artworks that are popular on deviantart are actually good.

>>141201714
Thats boruto

>>141206300
That was a misquote, it was supposed to be for >>141203665

>>141192624
There we go again, humans fucking the fucking aliens.

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>>141206337
>but it's nothing special.
> nothing special

It's not the "best" since anyway that doesn't exists, but Hiramoto's art is still top tier, you must be blind to think the opposite. Even more for a weekly series.

>>141192238
This.
Where/when is 214 of prison school?

>>141206406
Is pic related supposed to be an example of that? It's fucking ugly, can you not see how fucked up the anatomy of that face is? I guess I'm blind then. The only "good" thing about his art is how rendered it is.

>>141206644
It's stylized and obviously supposed to be creepy moron.

>>141206677
That's not a fucking excuse. You sound like a 15 year old kid who when called out for bad anatomy answers "no that's just my style!!"

>>141206644
>can you not see how fucked up the anatomy of that face is?
If you want realistic 2D faces I suggest you go outside.

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>>141206741
Except Hiramoto isn't a 15 year old kid but a pro with ton of experience that need to prove his skills at this point you fucking retard.

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>>141206810
>*that doesn't need

>>141206256
I suspect that you and I assign different values to the word "exceptional".

>>141206406

He draws some amazing titties.

>>141206644
>It's fucking ugly, can you not see how fucked up the anatomy of that face is? I guess I'm blind then.
No, you're just stupid. Look at the level of detail, the emotion that is conveyed. There's actually nothing wrong with the anatomy there either. You'd have to be pretty retarded to not see that Hiramoto is one of the best artists in the industry.

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>>141200808
>dinosaurs?
dinosaurs are cool

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>>141187218
I started reading Prison School purely because the art style is absolutely gorgeous, and then was thrilled when it was a genuinely riveting/interesting/funny series.

If you just told me its premise, I would've overlooked it in a heartbeat and that would've been a mistake.

>>141202126
We've all killed ourselves

>>141207349
Half of what goes into the decision of what manga to read next is how much I like the cover art. Mostly because at the end of the day, if I was looking for literary masterpiece, I'd go pick up some actual books and not manga.

>>141205507
It teaches you a lot, even if you don't draw with a reference.

Totally recommend it.

>>141207438
Good point, I just never thought of it that way.

>>141207447
Huh? I've read it, but the only time it's really useful is when trying to copy something, doesn't help with constructing whatsoever

>>141206070
I like zetman
When it updates ever

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>No one's posted Kaiji yet

>>141207718
>mangareader

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Why hasnt anyone mentioned this nigga yet?

>>141206337
>The art isn't bad, but it's nothing special.

Are you trolling or is this bait? Are you just being a contrarian? No one said it was the 'best of all manga,' but no one disagrees that it isn't very well drawn and the storytelling is pretty on point.

Well, except for you, because you gotta be different for the sake of being different. Have you ever drawn anything before? Granted that his work isn't perfect, but when you can get your shit to look like that then we'll talk about it being "nothing special."

Korean scans for 214 are out by the way.
Nothing happens

>>141207912
God you're retarded. Yes I draw, do you? You sound more like a triggered fanboy than an artist, can't you take your favourite mangaka getting critiqued? Now you're even talking about storytelling, which isn't even close to what this thread is about.
Also
>No one said it was the 'best of all manga'
>As far as illustration goes, is Prison School the best display of raw talent?

>>141203864
Idiots like you are killing /a/. Fuck off back to your own board.

>>141207861
Shigurui is pretty gud, artwise and otherwise, and it makes me sad that there's not more series like it.

>>141208136
> you're killing /a/ by wanting to talk about drawings and not photos!

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What about Baki, you guys?

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I-I like Inuyashiki.

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>>141207023
And I suspect that you've either didn't read much manga from Katsura or are just a photorealism hipster, or both.
>>141208270
Itagaki is kind of in his own league, I like him a lot but his art is admittedly not for everyone.

>>141208270
The only reason I dont read this is because the artstyle physically disgusts me.

>>141208270
I understand when people don't like Captain Tsubasa, but don't when they dislike Baki. I don't read either, though.

>>141208022
>Yes I draw, do you?

Yes, I do.

>You sound more like a triggered fanboy than an artist, can't you take your favourite mangaka getting critiqued?

"Nothing special" isn't really a critique though. Your sense of aesthetics might be different though. You might like more 'grit' or realism, but that doesn't take away from the fact that art is still really good. I know that it's hard to realize, but just because you hate something doesn't mean that it's bad.

>>141204430
Not really, although ore to akuma has arguably a more realistic style, the best parts of it are the surreal parts, at least from visual point of view.

>>141208341
>Drawn-over CGI models

I still can't really decide if Oku's work has a strong, striking look or if it's just a mess. At least Inuyashiki isn't as bad as Gantz was with how goddamn messy and impossible to make out it was from time to time.

>>141207594
Do some retrospective.
While is mostly referenced work, it also teaches you how do hold the pen, how to make chicken scratches into drawings, middle points in subjects, etc. You can show it to a total novice, and even if he doesn't do referenced work, it may help him a lot. I know that it did to me.

>>141208550
And just because you like something doesn't mean it's good, anon.

>>141208595
I don't remember having a problem with Gantz. Do you have a particular example?

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This manga fulfills my gear fetish

I wouldn't know about "raw talent", since anyone who's any good at any of this has put in a fuckton of work, but for me it's either Kentaro Miura or Takehiko Inoue. And choosing between Vagabond and Berserk is really, really fucking hard.

If I had to say, I guess I lean towards Inoue a bit. His work feels more artistic and expressive.

>>141208550
>"Nothing special" isn't really a critique though.

And yet you act like somebody said that artstyle is the worst thing ever.

>I know that it's hard to realize, but just because you hate something doesn't mean that it's bad

And just because you think something is good doesn't make it the best thing ever, it just means that you like it.

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>>141208740
I like gears too

This thread need some
>Nihei

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>>141208864

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>>141208662

Might be that the scans weren't the best, but generally I found that his black on black on black aesthetic made things really hard to actually make out, at times. Everything's just shades of gray and there's not a lot of contrast, so the more busy scenes can get really, really busy.

In this picture, for example, it's really hard to actually get a good idea of the mecha. And it gets worse when said mecha is fighting an alien that's also hard to make out.

>>141208595
> as Gantz was with how goddamn messy and impossible to make out it was from time to time.

I think you just read shitty scans.

>>141208864

>Every character has the same face
>Scenery is always the same
>In every fucking work
>Every time

I know it's a stylistic choice and all, but Nihei really only does one thing. Biomega's latter half felt somewhat fresh, but Sidonia was right back to the same thing again. Although with more mechs.

>>141208928
That mech does kind look like a jumble of machinery and wires and hydraulics

Maybe that was the point?

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>>141208270
Baki makes me feel things

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>>141208928
I've got the huge Osaka edition of Gantz, and the quality compared to the page you posted (and the ones of arc I saw on the net) are like night and days.

But that mecha does is a mess. He looks totally different from the big suit whose design is pretty clear. It obvioulsy wasn't supposed to be defined like mecha but more something mechanical like a self made bionicle.

>>141209230
What's wrong with his thumb?

>>141189288
>Shingo is kill
Prison School is good again!

Asano Ihio draws well

>>141187654

that's literally the only thing Oh Great! is good for

I'd feel so blessed if he actually drew some hentai his art style is my favorite

>>141192768
>comparing Fagsano to Inoue
The absolute heresy.

>>141209540
Hentai in Oh great's maddening dynamic art would have enough violent sexual impact to destroy half of Yuropoor.

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>>141208270
>>141209230
Baki is good shit

>>141209736
Fucking Shibukawa mang.

>>141209502
Nah, his drawing skills are not that good, he does good stuff with photoshop though.

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Y'all niggas gay

>>141209736
Does anyone actually have any idea what the point of Ali Jr. actually was, story-wise? It just seemed to me that he randomly popped up and that story went literally nowhere. There was no real buildup or even payoff, it was just a random arc at the end of the series.

Come to think of it, "Randomly popped up, didn't really go anywhere" feels like a pretty good way to describe every arc of NGB. That series was just confused, man.

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>>141207861
Realistic hairstyles, they get me everytime

Prison school is definitely my favorite manga in terms of art.

What is super impressive is all the angles he uses to show the action. Tons of wide angled shots, a few fish eye shots too. Great mise en scene.
The focus on angles to create art really feels like a film director is making this

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>>141209295
Keisuke has a strange sense of anatomy

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>>141208270
I actually found the art kinda bad during New Grappler Baki, but I'm loving what he does in Baki Dou.

>>141210084
>angles
Please use "perspective" like a proper anonymous poster in the /a/-chinese cartoons and comics message board.

>>141209963
Ali Jr. arc was basically an excuse to put Ali in the manga, the biggest point in the arc was Ali getting kind of back in shape and scolding his son, Jr was basically there to job to the main cast and show that no matter how confident you're of winning, if you don't fight for real you're not going to get anywhere, even if you're the son of a super athlete.

>>141206433
>>141192238
>>141208008

Prison School 214 Korean Leaks:
>>141209568
Korean Bros will keep evading those threads...

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Kiyoushirou Inoue is the most technically skilled manga artist out there.

This is a fact.

>>141210658
Fuck off with your shitty gook scans.

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Is this the rec thread?

>>141187218
manhua isn't allowed on /a/ according to /a/ :^)

>>141210736
you are gook

>>141211083
Most of them have really generic and unimpressive art.
Don't let the apparent details and colors fool you, bait-kun. That's just the communism-styled labors of countless unnamed lesser assistant artists without any real substance.

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>>141187218
step it up senpai

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>>141187218

>>141192606

Fuck you for mentioning punpun. That manga is the most depressing read ever.

>>141203253
Sauce please ? The guy seems to have drawn a lot. Also what's the story ?

>>141211446
Except this thread is about art-oh wait, PunPun is still not qualified.

>>141211313
>>141211354

I've seen these images before and tried reading the manga because they are impressive. Went through the first volume.
Holy shit it's bad. Proportions are really distorted, characters are have no depth whatsoever, and the story is very removed from reality which kills all suspension of disbelief.

>>141211564
Just finish it stop being a bitch.

>>141211564
the tone changes a lot after the 4th volume or so. maybe give it another try.

>>141200507
>because it takes me 10 fucking hours to draw one page of panels JUST right
One page a day is not bad pace you cunt.

>>141206864
I just read the last chapter. How often do they drop ?

>>141211711
Maybe one day. The start wasn't particularly impressive.

>>141211773
It was litterally on hiatus for 8 years, but it recently resumed. I'm pretty sure more chapters are already available, so it's just up to the scan team.

>>141187977
Yes

>>141211889
8 years ? Wow I knew he had paused it but not it was for so long. Glad I began just a few months ago, this is really good shit

>>141192964
this is like calling gantz incredibly artistic; what a waste

>>141201395
that mouth anatomy is completely wrong

>>141192624
>they clap when he finishes
everytime

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for me, ako is better

In terms of technical prowess without getting into ultrarealism, Yabuki Kentaro >>141194131 is definitely up there, as well as Murata. Pretty sure they were assistants for another famous mangaka together, just can't recall who.

>>141200507
You're holding yourself to a legitimate PROFESSIONAL standard. Practice and keep at it. don't compare yourself to the big dogs and take your time. If you had a month you could make a chapter drawing solo.