Was Gatchaman Crowds Insight a direct warning about letting memes

>>140396785
It was very much saying people are inherently stupid and that groupthinking shouldn't be rushed. Like seriously, today's state is literally Gatchaman Crowds. Imperial Japan.

>>140396785
I thought it was more of a social commentary on the mob mentality in general

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>Anime made about what happens when a meme candidate is elected
>It actually fucking happens months later

Like pottery

Was this good? I've seen some mixed opinions on S1 and next to noting regard S2

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>>140397188

Both seasons are great, but my opinion is biased because I love them and want others to watch it as well.

The characters and story in the first season are interesting and well-done with a nice message by the end.

The second season re-uses and adds a few characters, but the re-used characters don't really get much screentime, sadly. The message it's trying to send to the audience is more so the focus of the show. But I forgive it for that since it's a really strong message, especially with how relevant it is right now.


Despite my bias, definitely give the first season a shot. It's different and has a nice artstyle (to me) to go along with it that's actually trying to say something.

>>140396785
I dunno, man. But I want to hatefuck Tsubasa

>>140397940
Explain the message to me.

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>>140397188
Seconding >>140397940. Both seasons are phenomenal if you're willing to either embrace or look past some inherent wackiness. I really like how each season has a well presented theme to it, and Hajime, while I found her annoying at first, ending up being a really great character.
>>140398054
Without spoiling too much season 1 was roughly about how mankinds inherent good is greater than it's inherent evil, and season 2 is about the dangers of complacency and mob mentality, and how conflict is sometimes necessary to maintain the greater good.

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Was Hajime mary sue done right?

>>140397144
Holy shit. I didn't even realize that until now. We're fucked then. Where are our Gatchamans to help us out?

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>>140398054

It's been a while, but the first season is along the lines of not relying too much or getting too upset about things on the internet. The season deals with the Gatchaman revealing themselves after the main character, Hajime, joins the team and them getting backlash and such. But that it's not all bad and can be helpful in certain situations.

Second season is more political and about how groupthink and peer pressure can be bad. Its story is also quite relevant with the current election in the United States.


Typing it out makes it seem silly, but I really enjoyed the way the anime told both of its stories and wish it had more seasons. Maybe it's done in a childish or underdeveloped way, but I still loved both seasons of it.

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>>140398202

You explained the premise of both seasons a whole lot better than myself. Thanks.

>>140397188
I like season 1 a lot more than season 2. I still enjoyed season 2 but you might get turn off by the politics. If you enjoy the characters in season 1, half of them pretty much become background characters in season 2 in favor of more annoying characters.

>>140398458
>Maybe it's done in a childish or underdeveloped way
I think Gatchaman Crowds just does it in a simple and straightforward way so it works as an anime, since the actual world is much more complex. After all, it's relevant to the current election, but it wouldn't grant them the same power as SugitaKana did. The political system in the United States also isn't really about the people, or is it? because of money being power.

>>140398298

Nowhere to be found.

Also, Kuu-sama takes the form of frogs instead of whatever they were supposed to be.

>>140398721
It's not like it wouldn't have worked as an anime if they made the politics a bit more believable, but it probably would've required more episodes and might have made the moral of the story harder to get through. I do think they could have done a lot better with it but they certainly did well enough, at least for me.

>>140398737
Isn't Kuu-sama just Twitter and Facebook. Statuses right?

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Posting best girl.

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>>140398866
>Kuus are big walking Emojis
>There's a Emoji Movie being made
We're already fucked

>>140398269
I'd do her right.

>>140398298
Wait, I don't follow US elections, I only know Trump because of the "Make anime great again" meme. He is really winning?

>>140399386

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/parties/republican

Trump is leading by ~300 delegates.

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>>140398269
She is the best, I love her dearly

>>140398269
Actually, I think her being annoying as fuck excuses a bit of her sue-ness (Kotaku definitely agrees). She's far better in the second season, since she tones down the retard act, and has a foil in Tsubasa.

I stopped watching when the cute little red and blue alien girl turned into a man.
Does she ever become cute again?

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>>140399907

Yeah, near the end she he turns back.

>>140396785
better not tell /pol/ that.

>>140400262

>Telling the Trumpbot Gestapo anything

>>140396785
It was a direct warning about sexy traps.

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>>140400431
warning me to get my dick ready

>>140398269
I'm still waiting for the moment where she snaps. It'd be incredibly interesting to watch the cast finally pick her up instead of the reverse for once.

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>>140400542
I'd kill for a third season that goes more in depth about her as a character. I'd kill for a third season in general, actually.

>>140397940
>That gif

man, if a handsome man did that to me I'll probably cry when I get home.

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>>140400262
I think they know

>>140400534
Ready for what?

>>140399582
It's not like there's any better candidates.
The outcome will be bad regardless.

>>140400871
Look on the brightside
For the first few days, it's going to be very funny
I just hope /pol/ doesn't spill over into /a/

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How the hell did we get Bush Jr. elected again?

>>140397188
I more or less hated it but a lot of people really liked it, so definitely give it a shot.

>>140400752
It's because of Joe and his lollipos that I did not think Yashiro was the kidnapper.

>>140400814
sex

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>>140401290
You're an idiot, anon.

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This was such a great moment. One of my favorite gifs

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>>140401395
Would you like a webm?

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>>140401355
It's the truth, at first I was like "oh shit he is
the pedophile", then he went on about how he was trying to quit smoking and I remembered Joe and his oral fixation and I thought it was a Japanese thing. Joe is an honest man with pure heart and sensei seemed like an honest man too. Ha, my heart was breaking at the same time Satoru's heart was breaking during the reveal. I think it made the experience more enjoyable.

>>140402964
Well at least we got all that homolust fanart

>>140403049
That's never a good thing.

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>>140403152
Says you.

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>>140401592
>>140401395

>>140397144
>>140398298
Stop worrying, at the very least it will show us what may happen with some change.

Who knows, trump could bring manufacturing back to America for one. The effects are to be seen.

>>140400262
Why haven't they shown up?

This is strange.

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>>140403345
>that pic
Every time.

>>140403379
>yfw Trump does away with the whole Congress System all together and uses the saved up money on better things

>>140401592
Thanks a bunch anon.

Truth be told I had to pull that gif off google in shit quality because new computer, so I do appreciate it

>>140403379

I don't know how "let's get rid of people who make us uncomfortable" is that different from "muh wall". Trump is basically the same as Gel-chan, the only difference is, he's doing it on purpose.

>>140400928
What would you consider to be "/pol/ spilling into /a/"?

>>140401084
John Kerry was a pretty weak candidate who ran on being "not bush" like romney ran on being "not obama". History shows that unless the person you're running against allowed the economy to completely go to shit (hoover, carter, bush I) being "not the current president" isn't a good campaign platform.

>>140403818
We get rid of them because we don't want them, how is this hard to understand?

I don't know what this whole wall business is about, I guess if it werks for israel it would for us.

>>140400542

She won't snap because she isn't under any tension.

Though it would be interesting to see her shaken just a bit.

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Season 3 soon?

>>140403818
I certainly hope you're a teenager, or at most in your first year of university because otherwise you sound completely fucking retarded

>>140403865

Kuu-sama please go.

>>140403865
Oh yeah, because the Israel/Palestine conflict is solved because of one wall. Remember that your money is funding that pointless endeavor in Israel. And who do you think is going to pay for the Wall? It sure as hell wont be the Mexicans.

>>140403949

Then by all means, explain what the difference is. Do you really think anyone believes you faggots hate Mexicans because their taking up all the lucrative fruit picking jobs? No, you hate them for the obvious reasons, the same reason the Kuu-samas ate people. Really, Trump supporters basically ARE Kuu-samas.

>>140404013
Yeah like our situation with Mexico is comparable to the middle east

>>140404051
Still, tell me. Who is going to pay for it?

Yes,we do need better policies when it comes to immigration, but a wall can't fix that.

>>140404038
>>140404013
I don't really think I should have to explain why getting your political ideas from an anime is completely retarded

You're a kid, or you think like one.

>>140403864
>What would you consider to be "/pol/ spilling into /a/"?
How is this a question? Off topic political discussion on /a/, which will likely go through the roof around that time. Not to mention just general /pol/ meme spam. This thread is fine, gatchaman crowds was a very politically charged series, most anime are not however and a rise in that sort of discussion will be obvious.

>>140404111
We can pay for it or they can, really doesn't matter actually.

Better policies like not allowing illegals?

>>140404193
Immigrants help the country work and they get compensation for working too, they even pay taxes which helps all around.

>>140404128
It's called a metaphor, anon. You don't take that the ideas LITERALLY.

You're either a kid or you failed english and literature classes.

>>140404340
There's something wrong with the country when we rely on these immigrants.

>>140404193
>We can pay for it
Yeah, because 'we' want to when the typical 'we' are already bitching about paying taxes for other shit.

>they can
But they won't.

>really doesn't matter actually.
If you're too stupid to think of consequences.

>>140404193
>We can pay for it or they can, really doesn't matter actually.

It does matter because it's your money. What's the difference between sending your money to build a pointless wall or just burning it? Nothing. It's just useless expenditure that doesn't really fix the underlying problem.

The Mexican government will never pay for that wall. So it's coming out of your pocket through taxes.

Might as well just build a road to nowhere while you're at it.

>>140404357
Anon, no need to run to conclusions. Feels so aggressive when you put it like that. It could just be that their ideologies are different than yours and they're unable to comprehend what you mean since they either don't want to or they're too uneducated. Both of which you can continue to help with.

>>140404418
That's globalism for you. Whether you like it or not we're in this shit together.

Every cog in the world's economy has to do it's part.

>>140404340
You can just get somebody who isn't an illegal to do their work, like non-illegal mexicans.

>>140404418
Why do you believe that? There are definitely downsides that come along with immigrants, but there's benefits too. Trump building a wall would get rid of those benefits and potentially hurt the economic structure that the United States has at the moment.

>>140404340
Immigrants get more in benefits than they pay in taxes, additionally because they are here illegally they work under the table and hence the "pay taxes" meme only works when immigrants specifically steal social security numbers- which is a crime- in order to file for tax credits for being poor according to their stated income. Likewise this discounts the various other crimes they may participate in- the porous border has been noted as a source of illegal drugs and hence is quite open to criminals from violent cartels. Mexico is actually quite fond of getting rid of troublesome elements by encouraging them to migrate here- the money they send back to mexico is money that the illiterate peasants and criminals coming would otherwise not have earned in America and ensures the quashing of reformist politicians in mexico who might otherwise win election were impoverished mexicans made to stay behind and figure out how to unfuck themselves without running away being an option. Additionally we find the fact that they have oh so many children to be a problem because in most districts those children are considered citizens- as they grow up and vote for politicians which support more generous social welfare policies this means more money and power is taken from the people who were born in this country to legal immigrants or citizens. The obvious longterm result when coupled with our problems of funding social security longterm is a financial situation which is even more out of control- it isn't an understatement that bernie sanders would be able to win in a future mexamerica. The net result of course would be the extremely wealthy people fleeing the country abroad because the USA up to this point has been quite generous in letting the rich get away with what they like, while the middle class is ground down to pay for people who never graduated highschool.

>>140404111
>>140404013
Mexico has zero leverage in refusing to pay for the wall.

>>140404531
Illegals are cheaper, companies care about profit first and foremost.

I have no idea why people blame the immigrant instead of the companies that hire these immigrants.

>>140404357
No, it's called being a dumb faggot like the people who were trying to meme "Darth Trump" or "Trumpmort" into existence. People like you shouldn't vote because you have a tendency to be unable to disassociate politics from fiction and therefore end up making dumb decisions.

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>>140404427
>>140404424
>>140404497
>>140404552
The wall and deportation of illegals have a real goal in mind, real consequences that have a tough prospect.

Sure we would lose tons of cheap labor, but we are losing the American experience like that. Good old family values rely upon picking beans and other assorted vegetables.

Think of it this way. If you go to a university or just live in most southern states you will see tons of these mexicans and it will bother you. Suddenly their culture and people are taking the place of what was before + many blue collar jobs breeding like rabbits.

This all goes beyond Mexicans of course, with bigger problems of how asians hold monopoly over manufacturing power.

Anyways Anime & Manga faggots take it to /pol/ I'm sure they will understand your pleas.

>>140404651
People are just uneducated about other issues. Corporations have been an issue for almost forever and it's only been getting worse, but preventing corruption any further is difficult because corporations have so much power.

>>140404552
He wouldn't hurt shit, you're an idiot if you believe that illiterate people whose primary skill is having two working hands are difficult to replace. The worst thing to possibly happen would be that sheltered middle class people like you would pay a dollar more for your fruit.

>>140404651
Illegals aren't the only ones willing to work for cheaper. Desperate immigrants willing to work for what they can get will still exist. It's not like they're going to tell on you just because they aren't illegals.
They're both at fault, obviously.

>>140404746
Start your own business communist faggot

>>140404497
>we can call people in india, therefore we should get fucked in the ass by the rich- that's just how the world works now!

"No."

>>140404760
Hence why Trump wants to decrease total immigration on top of deporting illegals, ensuring that companies will have to hire from desperate Americans before they hire desperate immigrants.

>>140404038
Illegal immigration =/= mexican legal immigration

Its simple numbers. Legal immigration has caps and standards for a reason. 30-40% of CA prisons are illigals, for example.

Its not about keeping the slaves around to pick the cotton, its about numbers laws and reality. What is it with 'muh berries' its not even an argument since banning illegal workers has worked. Allabama did it and in 2 years they have doubled the amount of working black americans. You dont hate black people do you anon? Fucking racist.

>>140404786
What is wrong with communism?

>>140404424
>>140404427
I had no idea mexico had so much military and economic clout that they could refuse to pay for a wall to help fix a problem they helped cause

Oh wait, they don't and in fact rely heavily on us for trade. NAFTA currently exists, but Trump is hostile to it and could easily shit all over it and place tariffs on mexican goods to pay for it should the mexican government not see reason.

Your inability to even think of this is baffling.

>>140403379
>Who knows, trump could bring manufacturing back to America for one. The effects are to be seen.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/manufacturing-jobs-are-never-coming-back/

>>140404651
Trumps plan involves heavily fining companies that do so.

>>140405036
It's not like they don't have money to pay it all off.

>>140404946
Looks like someone slept through history class.

>>140404981
>t. Globalists against America

>>140405093
No one wants a fine of a few million m8, rich people get rich not by taking purposful losses.

>>140405213
They have billions of dollars anyways, it's nothing if they gain more profits in return.

>>140398458
Reminder
>not relying too much or getting too upset about things on the internet

>>140404617
>Mexico has zero leverage in refusing to pay for the wall.
Do you not want tequila?

>>140404946
The doctor gets paid the same as the janitor and you have to work. Every one has a job. No more being a hikki neet.

>>140405249
Thats not how it works. The fines he is proposing would literally destroy any small business that did so, and a huge chunk in any large business. Just because a mega corp could take the hit, doesnt mean they would want to repeatedly. And you also must realize that losing shareholders money is a great way to destroy your company.

Basically his plan is to punish those businesses heavily, and then deport the foreign illegals being used as slave labor. If you are against this, you are litterally a racist who thinks companies should be able to own slaves and probably would have fought for the south in the civil war.

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This is the reason Mexico is paying for the wall.

>>140405440
>tfw can't even get a group of 33 people to agree on one thing
How are you going to have millions of people to agree on one thing?

>>140405479
Distraction or force, alternatively facebook memes and social shame

>>140404973
Why the hell would you ruin relations with your 3rd largest trade partner?


>>140405406
Slave labor by American standards is easy living in Mexico's

>>140405479
Because he is retarded. He will be tricked easily by trump. Hell even if trump looses one conversation with him and done.

>>140405547
>Slave labor by American standards is easy living in Mexico's

You dont know how ironic this is, considering the south used this same argument about Africa being bad and how their slaves were better watched after to justify slavery.

Hows it feel to have the same thought process as racists from 100 years ago?

>>140405680
History repeats itself even if you learn about it. Why does this happen and how do we stop it?

Gatchaman was too smart for me. I just liked the parts were Hajime suffered for our sins.

>>140405763
I hope you realize that's the answer to everything. If there were at least 1000 Hajimes and they all suffered, the country would be great again.

>>140405715
Realize humans havnt changed and wont change because of genetic strands ingrained from millions of years ago.

Build giant colonies and let people fuck off to where ever they want to be ruled under. Shoot them off in different directions of space. Colonize the universe and ease tensions with people who wont play nice.

>>140405912
But we did that, then everyone wanted to move in because it was so much better than everywhere else.

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Meanwhile in Moscow, Russia, government launched a vote/poll phone app. So far it was only used for non-political polls such as traffic planning, museums/festivals etc. Participating grants reward points that can be traded in for museum tickets, parking time or, among other things, various memorabilia. Core design element is colorful <> arrows, main memoravilia item is notepad.
Is it just me or does this seem familiar?

>>140406357
M-masaka

>>140396785
We will never get a third season. Even if Tsubasa becomes mc again I would still watch it as long as I get to see Joe

>>140406105
Thats why you launch them away from eachother at near light speed- no ome would ever know or be able to catch up silly.

And hey it worked till we ran out of room. But the universe is big.