New Oregairu game looks nice.
Why? They are mostly one liner bullshit of little worth.
Haruno doesn't respect the cunt and does not seem at all interested by him.
I hope 8man gets one of them.
I don't remember pregnancies UN the first game
Let's put it like this
It will be fleshed out routes with the style of 8man's date with Iroha
About the endings, I guess you'll just have to wait for it to come out to find out which girl gets what
>Yukinon's modest, petite yukinons
>Yui's righteous yuis
There is only one important question to ask.
Is there a Sensei route?
>I wonder which ones will have the chance to satisfy the 8.
The elite patrician's choice is a threesome end.
I guess it is for the better if there was. The main series will probably have one of the main girls getting her heart ripped out of her chest so it would be nice to have some romance that doesn't involve hard feelings.
Just tell them that if he can't have both of them, then he will chose neither. That he can't picture a future without all three of them together.
I'm sure if 8man was
genuineenough and used some kind of mental gymnastics he could get it to work.
>Yukino isn't dfc enough
>one of the main girls getting her heart ripped out of her chest
Really? I thought they resolved the "we won't be asshurt by the result" issue and are willing to go forward with their feelings. Both Yui and Yukino are very aware they can lose.
hope they do a lot of the date, but some of the cute parts of the newpaper project like
Iroha bribing Hachiman in front of YY with date pictures, the indirect marriage proposal, and Hachiman sweating away with looming deadline getting shoulder massage from Yui and MAX COFFEE with reverse psychology from the other Yukino
She took him to a hotel?
Bitch took her idea.
Yui took the news of the mutual confession of Yukino and Hachiman a bit hard; the wedding was postponed until a respectful amount of time after the funeral
>tfw we used to be a small cult in /a/ awaiting the gift of the heavens in the form of Spyro's translations
>tfw we had zero to no shitposting
>tfw we had lots of fun
>tfw things will never go back
so we don't know if she cries because Yukino and Hachiman appear closer you say?
yes, just like the vol 11 novel did. But no problem, there will be volume 12 but Watari /publishers do time releases of LN with other oregairu media for marketing purposes (maximize the $$). So just have to keep watching those gagagabunko release announcements. Next load of those about a week from now, that's where anything to go in May would be listed.
another typical evening in the Hikigaya household, with Hachiman sipping a beer ^h^h^h^h^h MAX COFFEE while discussing things with Yukino
How would Komachi react if Hachiman seriously got in a relationship with Yukino? I mean Yui is one thing, as she's just a normal girl. But Yukino is supposed to be this transcendent beauty-beyond-words, envied by all, from a rich family, astronomically high grades, and destined to be making gillions of dollars someday.
Komachi wants her brother to get over his loner ego and find love. That much is obvious from all her manipulations. But if he actually hits one out of the park and bags a Yukino, there would have to be an honest moment of shock on her part.
I doubt it would shock her, Komachi just like Haruno jokes about 8man and Yukino already dating but as usual it just flies over their heads.
Besides we already know what Komachi thinks of YY, she prefers spending time more with Yui because she can connect with her and talk to her more freely, but when YY, 8man, and Komachi are in a group it usually gets split with Komachi staying by Yui's side and Yukino and 8man together.
Komachi gets along with Yukino. Yukino has ""seduced" Komachi on ocassion or at least that's how Hachiman describes it as. I think Komachi is going to be incredibly happy for her brother if he ends up with the person he loves.
They would be a very dark, quiet introverted and introspective couple though. Night out on the town consisting of sci-fi movie followed by cafe that featured reading with cakes and tea/coffee. Sounds good to me.
Hope Komachi learns about it the shocking way, like she runs into Hachiman's bedroom early one Saturday morning to bug him about something and they are nude under the covers with Yukino sleeping on Hachiman's shoulder. Komachi managed to say "I'm sorry" in a strangled voice while blushing and runs away
Unless their relationship progresses very fast I doubt Komachi will stay in the dark about it long enough to walk in on them in bed.
I think he's going to tell her what he wants to do with the YY girls and what he tells Komachi is going to leave an impression on her.
You know who it is, don't lie.
They'd get along quite well. The only concern I have is that Komachi would be spoiled even more than she already is.
Every key scene replaces Yukino with Yui and 8man only cares about rumors with Yui and Hayama. He doesn't give a fuck about Yukino in ANOTHER. None of Yukino's problems show up and she doesn't seem to be in love with him.
>Seemingly in pain from those words, Komachi was mumbling something in a small voice next to
me. “I wonder if Yukino-san’s more of an education-conscious mom… A reliable older sister… One day, I want her as my onee-chan.” Komachi’s eyes visually sparkled.
granted Komachi also says she'd like Yui as an older sister too (and the implication is that whoever will be taking care of 8man too), so
The topic has dropped significantly in popularity since the anime ended, for the better.
Well guess that confirms a Yui end for another. Unless WW just wanted to show a different perspective on things. I was really hoping there wouldn't be different endings for many reasons. One of those being how much worse the shit posting will get. Every thread is gonna devolve into which ending was the most "genuine". Fucking Watari you hack. Write your fucking story and stop worrying about what ship fags want.
Seems most agree with me. I mean I get why Watari might do it. It just seems to go completely against the "genuine" message he's been going with. If you want to give every fan the ending they want, tell them to play the fucking game.
All I want is for Yukino to win the 8bowl in the first few pages of vol 12 and the entire rest of the book is a long excruciatingly detailed sex scene between the two when they surrender to their passions right there in front of Yui.
Is that so much to ask for?
8man isn't capable of catching a glimpse of Yukino's thighs without writing a long winded sonnet in dedication to their beauty. Him narrating a sex scene would take a fucking eternity.
Yukinon should know better than to touch other peopl's Pan-sans.
She took care of that already by breaking the news to Yui at around 900 meters per second.
That's way, way too much. They wouldn't do anything with Yui there. Now if they were alone in the clubroom and things had escalated to where Hachiman was just entering Yukino on the clubroom table right as Yui walked in, that would more believable.
Will studio feel be in charge of the movie/OVA?
>brain's base iroha
maybe something like this one?
I wonder if they'd go with her LN hair color which is a more auburn like color
Reminder that Vol 10.5 is the best Watari has ever written and will likely never surpass it
I just finished ANOTHER. What the fuck is Watari even doing? It felt like I was reading a shitty fan fiction. None of the characters even act like themselves and half of it is ripped from the main LN. Yukino seems to be almost non existent and it almost feels like he's setting her up with Hayama, which is literally the one pairing that I have a huge problem with. ANOTHER and Volume 11's ending contradict each other so much it's almost funny. I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever see volume 12. And if we do, I'm not confident the ending will be any good.
>it almost feels like he's setting her up with Hayama
I am glad someone else agrees and sees this. YukinoxHayama is likely to happen in ANOTHER. Wouldn't it be funny if Yukinox8man failed in the main series but YukinoxHayama succeeds in ANOTHER?
>Hayama has something he really wants but fucked it up in the past
>It is the only thing he actually wants
>Hikigaya Hachiman and Hayama Hayato will get different ends since they are fundamentally incompatible, possibly meaning that since 8man won't go for Yukino Hayama will
>looks for Yukino for an infirmary scene as he wants to interact with her
>Yukino is not in love with him in ANOTHER
In ANOTHER characters act different just by a bit. Yukino does not like 8man in ANOTHER and she hasn't really made up with Hayama yet in ANOTHER. One of the producers of the show said in the episodes covering vol 9 Yukino only respects 8man and only starts to fall for him in episodes covering vol 10. Since a lot of the development doesn't happen in ANOTHER Yukino doesn't fall for 8man. In the main series Yukino seems done with Hayama but that sort of development never happens in ANOTHER.
Since Hayama hasn't made up with Yukino yet and that there is at least one more scene between them that might be the catalyst to their relationship. You this all the time, estranged childhood friends make up after some bullshit, grow close again, and become an item. 8man gives no fucks about HayamaxYukino in ANOTHER so he isn't a road block.
The vibes in it are strong. Who knows what will happen.
Only more proof she never falls for 8man.
So you're saying in ANOTHER Hayama seeks the genuine but Hachiman doesn't so he gets Yukino. While in the main story Hachiman seeks the genuine and gets Yukino in it.
Yukino is the prize that goes to the one who seeks the genuine.
I refuse to read ANOTHER. I'd rather pretend it doesn't exist. It's not Yui with 8man I have a problem with. It's the fact that there's even an alternative ending in the first place. You mines a well write an ending for every girl WW since you're too afraid of your fans to write an ending and stick to it. Any meaning to all of that "genuine" bullshit has been lost thanks to this AU garbage.
Also, if Yukino ends with Hayama in any fashion this series is officially dead to me. Rather her be with fucking Zaimokuza than Hayama.
Even as a Yukinofag I can live with Hayama x Yukino in another, if and only if it is handled properly.
WW is going to have to make clear how she could have feelings for him in one universe but not in the other. What exactly is the difference between the two. Or else there will be endless arguments about whether Yukino secretly likes Hayama in the main story. If the difference is never explained or if it's just "Hachiman goes for her in one but not the other" then that tells us nothing about Yukino's own feelings.
That's why I have a problem with it. Because I guarantee it won't be handled properly. It's already being handled improperly. Felt really weird how little of a shit 8man suddenly gives about Yukino. I doubt Watari will be able to make Hayama and Yukino make sense in one volume.
Hayama might pursue Yukino in ANOTHER. If he proves to her he isn't a cuck she will act warmer to him. We know she liked him at some point.
Yukino had feelings for Hayama in the main series but they went away in favor of 8man. Hayama won't pursue Yukino in the main series because it is obvious where her heart is.
>then that tells us nothing about Yukino's own feelings.
>What exactly is the difference between the two
Maybe they were never strong for one guy or the other and all it took was a little effort by either to get her. There are tons of parallels between 8man and Hayama.
>WW is going to have to make clear how she could have feelings for him in one universe but not in the other.
8man likes Yui so she never develops feelings for him and never considers him something for romance. Yukino at no point shows that she likes him in ANOTHER.
I would rather Yukino have happiness in both stories Happy ends are good and maybe being with Hayama would actually make her more happy than being with 8man. If she likes Hayama then what is the problem?
>No Yumiko route
>No Orimoto route
>No Meguri route
End it all
I don't think we're going to get an unambiguous Hayama/Yukino pairing in ANOTHER. They might make peace ala vol 10 but without Hachiman in the picture and that could leave the door open to the possibility of them getting together. But it's likely not going to be explicitly shown. WW undoubtedly is aware of the massive landmine such a pairing could represent in the fandom.
But we're not even guaranteed a true Yui end in ANOTHER at this point. There are signs indicating it, but the final outcome may be that the service club turns into something like Hayama's clique in the end. Whereas in the main story it does not but at the cost of breaking apart leaving just Hachiman + one girl.
I just really hate this is even a discussion we're having. There shouldn't even be two different endings. It makes the whole story feel weird and muddied up. I'm just going to keep pretending ANOTHER doesn't exist and Watari isn't a total hack yet
There isn't much in the way of a Yui end. 8man doesn't care as much about Yukino and Yukino isn't in love with him. It is conspicuous to that she doesn't seem to like him romantically but is still acting friendly to him, there aren't any signs of jelly from her and no sign of her minding YuiHachi.
The big factor is if YuiHachi rumors start and how those are handled.
>WW undoubtedly is aware of the massive landmine such a pairing could represent in the fandom.
If it makes you feel any better the jap fanbase hates YukinoxHayama far more than the western fanbase. Their shippers are nonexistent for the most part and it is mostly used to troll. I personally don't mind it is she got with Hayama in either ANOTHER or the main series.
I don't see much of a problem as long as he gets genuine in both.
Watching White Album 2 was the worst thing I could have done as a Yuifag.
This, now, if the LN has a shit-tier ending, then we can start readyinjg the pitchforks and lighting the torches, but until then we should at least take a 'Wait and see' approach with vol. 12
>The original animation will be titled "Kitto, Onna no Ko wa Osatō to Spice to Suteki na Nanika de Dekiteiru" (Undoubtedly, Girls Are Made of Sugar, Spice, and Everything Nice) and will adapt a story focusing on Iroha Isshiki from the original light novel's volume 10.5.
Yukino's problems aren't really getting addressed in ANOTHER, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Yuki-mom may be pushing her to get with Hayama and absent any real connection to Hachiman she might just decide to settle for what she is being pressured to do. ANOTHER could represent a 'bad end' for Yukino, albeit one that you have to have read all through the main story to recognize.
I mean Hachiman retreats from genuine in vol 11 only to turn back to it after he sees how bad it is for Yukino. In ANOTHER he could be turning away from it as well and it won't even matter to Yukino because the connection between the two has not been made.
>I don't see much of a problem as long as he gets genuine in both
That's my problem though. It doesnt feel genuine at all when both girls get their own ending. It's just Watari making sure he doesn't piss off their fans.
It could be that the ending to the main series will piss off so many Yuifags that WW feels the need to placate them.
Why are you worried?
I think we will have either a shit tier ending we will discuss forever or the blandest possible ending (wait for me going abroad Yukinon).
Maybe 8man likes both girls enough that one or two things settles the score.
Maybe WW isn't touching on Yukino because Yukino isn't the point of ANOTHER. I doubt she will have an ending as definite as that. It will probably end with Yui and 8man going out but only showing February or March of their second year and Yukino dropping going abroad hints, the club will stay intact and no one gets destroyed.
Why? Kazusa and Yukino are nothing alike other than having the same hair color.
WA2 is just a story about an extremely one sided love triangle.
Final volume spoilers, be advised.
Even if she's not the point, it's still something that has to be addressed.
In an AU we need to understand the difference between the characters and how those differences change the plot. If Yukino ends one way in one story and differently in the another, how and why does it happen? He has to answer these things or it just causes pointless confusion.
I still felt really bad for Setsuna, though.
Well, it was pretty obvious that an OVA based on a side volume would happen at the 10,5 volume.
It`s time we see their date unfold in full animation.
Then the YuiHachi rumors will bother her a great deal.
Maybe Yukino has a final confrontation with 8man and ask if he is sure about what he is doing. He says he is and Yukino goes away the next day, she was just a transient part of his life.
>it's still something that has to be addressed.
Yukino's main motivation for a part of this series is to fix 8man. She may decide he is fixed if he has a successful relationship with Yui and leaves it at that. She will be their friend and remain as a close figure even if she isn't as close to them as they are to eachother.
> how and why does it happen?
8man and her never connecting and her never falling in love with him. He just becomes her friend and her friend's boyfriend.
>will likely never surpass it
He already has in the form of 6.5's bonus track and nothing since has surpassed it.
In a single instance so sweet and beautiful leaving Hachiman breathless, with a simple wave and a regular greeting filling his heart with warmth and joy to the point where he starts to hum.
Nothing has been better than that one instance however fleeting it was.
I felt nothing for her. She knew what she was doing. She has no reason to complain or feel sorry for the results of her actions. She's lucky Haruki and Kazusa were so forgiving, it's more than she deserved.
Nevertheless they were the only ones affected so if they're fine with it then it's settled.
That's not to say that I have any issues with Setsuna in particular, it's just important to recognize that she is the one who strayed from the moral high ground. It's a very human thing to do and I appreciate her more as a character for that.
>Maybe 8man likes both girls enough that one of two things settles the score.
It's just a cop out. Watari doesn't want to piss anyone off, but that goes completely against all of the genuine shit that keeps being brought up in 8mans monologues. If the three want to all get something genuine and stop lying to themselves about their feelings someone HAS to get hurt. It's inevitable. But all of this AU bullshit makes it so in the end, no one gets hurt. Every one gets what they want. Which doesn't feel "genuine" to me.
>the one who holds the MC's admiration
>his desire for friendship with that girl
his desire for wanting to know more, going passed just friendship.
It checks out.
> Yukino's main motivation for a part of this series is to fix 8man.
Yes but aside from that she has her own personal problems that exist and impact the way she acts and the decisions she makes (or doesn't make). Anything that she does in ANOTHER will have to be compared against what we know about her in the main story to decide if it's a good or a bad thing for her to do.
She is not a positive trajectory prior to getting associated with Hachiman. And if she never stands up for herself and goes for what she wants, we can't say she ends the series as a healthy individual, even if she is still friends with Yui and Hachiman. That is why if she, say, gets with Hayama we can entertain doubts about how good that is for her. Unless she shows positive development in doing so.
WA2 is a better series than Oregairu. It handles love triangles far better and the characters feel more human and more believable. They seem like actual people instead of tropes.
What she did was a dick move, what the MC did was straight up NTR.
I would have taken them breaking up and the proper couple getting established as 'karma' or whatever, but not what fucking happened instead.
Yes I can certainly understand that interpretation but from my point of view it's the catalyst of the catastrophe that is to blame.
What Setsuna did caused extreme emotional turmoil for Haruki and Kazusa. Now of course they're still responsible for their actions but I don't think it's unreasonable to afford them some level of sympathy for losing control after weeks upon weeks of internal suffering.
If they were grown adults who were experienced in matters of love then I would agree with you, but that's simply not the case.
Everything Kazusa and Haruki did after the night they first kissed was too much.
I mean Haruki called Setsuna to care for him literally the next fucking day, and then kept the fucking charade up until the very end.
>the love triangle is handled better than in most series
I seriously hope you mean some shit about characters behaving like real people or something, because the way that love triangle was handled was the wrongest fucking way to handle a love triangle ever.
Okay okay, what about this.
>Yui and 8man go on that promise date and it ends the way Yui always imagined
>his romantic life is good for once and he has a cute girlfriend that is out of his league
>Yui tells Yukinon thinking nothing of it and Yukino congratulates her
>the next day Yui has business and Yukino is alone in the club room when 8man comes in
>Yukino is smiling but it is obvious that it is not a genuine smile, it is an early vol 9 smile
>8man has a monologue about how something is horribly wrong and why didn't he see it earlier
Would you be okay with that? What is ANOTHER was just Yui's fantasy?
>Yes but aside from that she has her own personal problems that exist and impact the way she acts and the decisions she makes (or doesn't make).
We don't know if these problems exist in the AU so although it isn't wrong to think they may it isn't a definite.
>She is not a positive trajectory prior to getting associated with Hachiman.
She got even worse thanks to 8man though before what he did at the end of vol 11.
> we can't say she ends the series as a healthy individual, even if she is still friends with Yui and Hachiman
Maybe she doesn't but as sensei always says someone in the future will step up. That person might not be 8man and in ANOTHER maybe he doesn't care to.
Maybe being HachiYui's third wheel is enough for her. Although for all we know this might make her worse if she is in love with him in ANOTHER.
>That is why if she, say, gets with Hayama we can entertain doubts about how good that is for her.
If Hayama doesn't act like a bitch for once maybe he can be a positive impact on her. I think becoming friends with Hayama by the end of the series would be a positive in her development, ANOTHER or the main series.
Yeah I agree it may not be a bad thing for Yukino in ANOTHER, only that it could be depending on how WW writes it. And it may not even appear to be so in ANOTHER. You will have to read the main story to realize that it's bad for Yukino.
> She got even worse thanks to 8man though before what he did at the end of vol 11.
Agreed. But even before he joined the club she was just sort of aimlessly drifting down Haruno's path without any direction or goal of her own. Will she get one in ANOTHER? Or will she just surrender to having her life controlled by others, such as her mother? It's a very real possibility that part of the reason for ANOTHER is to show how things could turn out for Yukino if she never made that connection with Hachiman.
>Yukino is smiling but it is obvious that it is not a genuine smile, it is an early vol 9 smile
>8man has a monologue about how something is horribly wrong and why didn't he see it earlier
> Would you be okay with that? What is ANOTHER was just Yui's fantasy?
Well that would be kind of extreme. Since there's a decent chance part of the reason for ANOTHER is a gift to Yui fans that would be a bitter gift to receive.
But I think it's possible something like that happens, without the awareness from 8man that something is wrong.
Ultimately because I don't think Yukino problems aren't there in ANOTHER, unless they are dealt with somehow, even if it gets a lot less attention in the story, then we can't walk away from the story thinking she's in good shape. Maybe she overcomes them a different way, maybe Hayama steps up and becomes her Hachiman, maybe seeing Hachiman/Yui motivates her to overcome it. Or maybe it never happens and we are left to worry about her.
The Yukinoshita causality is effecting more than just cookies and her leggings, the universe is even effecting things she loves like Kamakua-kun.
That wouldn't be so bad now that I think of it, in fact I like it. Making ANOTHER Yukino's subtle bad end, if cleverly done, will be amusing to read and would reinforce what the series was about. It would guarantee that Yui gets a terrible end in the main series though. Obvious bad end vs not so obvious bad end.
>Or will she just surrender to having her life controlled by others
I think there is a very real possibility that Yukino becomes the clubs third wheel and fucks off after she graduates in ANOTHER. The club will be less meaningful if it stays intact ironically enough.
Vol R is going to be twice the length of the other volumes of ANOTHER but it will still be pretty brief. I don't think he has the space for that. At best we will we some good hints as to how Yukino may end up but I doubt we will see her arc settled in ANOTHER.
>Well that would be kind of extreme. Since there's a decent chance part of the reason for ANOTHER is a gift to Yui fans that would be a bitter gift to receive.
I think it would fit though. WW would be a bastard.
>without the awareness from 8man that something is wrong.
He will notice something. Maybe he will see it and outright ignore it for convenience. Not very genuine but maybe something genuine is so rare it should only be savored in the main story.
>maybe Hayama steps up and becomes her Hachiman
ANOTHER's Hayama isn't all that different that the main series' one. WW did say he wanted to write more about him and maybe Hayama stepping it up is the thing. Not so much for Yukino but for himself as Yukino and Hayama are in the same place in life amusingly enough.
I like Brains Base's designs better because they remind me of the BESPA's mechs in Victory Gundam. I know that is a bit retarded.
To add to this I do think that there is a chance that if Yukino isn't directly fucked with by anyone or anything then she can bloom and being their friend might be enough support and space to do so.
> To add to this I do think that there is a chance that if Yukino isn't directly fucked with by anyone or anything then she can bloom and being their friend might be enough support and space to do so.
That may be so, but we need some validation of that in the story. It is not something we can just take on faith.
I think Sensei represents Yukino's future if she never (or takes too long to) overcomes her problem and stand up for what she wants. Sensei has the love letter she wrote that she never gave, Yukino in ANOTHER may have feelings for Hachiman she has buried deep down and unlike the main story it has never come out of her. ANOTHER Yukino in the future may be a chain smoking depressed loner like Sensei is.
Do you think WW intended for Pan-san to have any meaning in the series?
Sensei lives vicariously through Yukino.
Yea, I should've been more clear about that. I just liked how real and fucked up it was. If there was a love triangle in real life, it wouldn't end all happy like they do in most anime.
I see more parallels with 8man and Sensei. She doesn't want him to be the person with a love letter in his pocket and not stepping over the line. I don't see the Yukino and Sensei parallels.
If vol R will drop a hint that Yukino likes him you might be correct but we can't bank on it as there is no indication she likes him in ANOTHER so far.
>That may be so, but we need some validation of that in the story
This will be implied by the main story by my reckoning. 8man literally told Yukino that Yui should fuck and he isn't solving shit for her which is giving her space to do what she wants. They can be the same level of support for her in both universes.
>she has buried deep down and unlike the main story it has never come out of her
Maybe it will as a resigned smile when she sees Hikigaya-kun and Yuigahama-san have a sweet romance thanks to her and her club helping to bring them together. She at the end of the day wanted to help him.
> he isn't solving shit for her which is giving her space to do what she wants
No. You're that faggot from the Iroha thread who got shut down and then ran off. It has nothing to do with "giving her space". Get it through your thick skull.
He's not "laying off her". He only stated a fact. She has to solve the problem herself. He has known this already. It was not some great revelation on his part at the end of vol 11. The distance between continues to shrink as it has the entire series. The end of vol 11 made them even closer.
So much closer that you can bet they will never need Yui to go between them again like she has again and again throughout the story. They don't need Yui anymore in fact.
It’s the usual tea-time
Even if it is just casual talk
Everything that you have ever said, I remember it all
I wasn’t able to be honest
Because of those feelings that I pushed away
All of those are really precious to me
The countless times that I looked at that same photo
I break out into a smile ever so naturally
Here’s a crescendo to you right now
Bringing out all those feelings that I could no longer hide
Let’s go to the future that I desire.
In that instant when our eyes met
My chest overflows with that gentle scene
That was gently wrapped by the dusk
Probably, the one who’s enchanted by you
is me who is right here (waiting for you)
That time when I pulled at your sleeve
I poured my wish into those words, “Someday…”
Something is beginning to change
Lapsing into silence unexpectedly
those thoughts that gradually approaches me
That sort of scene is right here too
I don’t know, (that’s why) I want to know
I am searching for (what you are) searching for as well
A high pitched pizzicato
My heart is clamoring from these unusual expectations
I hugged the stuffed toy tightly
If I can overcome these countless sleepless nights,
I wonder if that means I can go and welcome the future as the new us.
I see you right now
and I feel as though you are right beside me
Here’s a crescendo to you right now
Bringing out all those feelings that I could no longer hide
Let’s go to the future that I desire
In that instant when our eyes meet
My chest overflows with that gentle scene
I will never forget it
I want to be right next to you
Once these feelings get to you, I wonder what will happen
I want to be just a little closer to you
In the usual place, I pour my feelings into a new cup
So that you will notice me someday
Indeed, I am enchanted by you
(Know that) I am right here (waiting for you)
Obviously Yukino has no interest in Hachiman, never looks at the photo she bought of the two of them, never thinks about when she asked him to help her someday, doesn't want to be closer to him, no feelings for him that she wants to bring out, isn't searching for the same thing he is searching for, doesn't want to go with him into the future she desires, nor does she feel enchanted by him.
I dunno. Live action anime is more miss than hit usually.
Yui's character song for comparison.
I hid it behind my usual chatter
These feelings of mine, maybe you have noticed it as well
Because it was just the two of us all of a sudden
The defenseless words, came rushing out of me
This important place, you protected it
I know too, that you tried your best
That unkempt hair, that cold voice
I want it to remain like this, for just a little more
You are here with me. When I am together with you,
I feel happy, but I am still a little sad.
The happy ending is so near yet I keep going back and forth, never reaching it
Please look this way; It doesn’t matter when you do.
At the corridor where the setting sun shone onto
The words that reached me from behind
You remembered our promise
I thought about it for just a little bit, and
if you noticed, the time that we have spent together
and our memories too increases day by day
The times when you weren’t honest, that clumsy smile of yours as well
I want it all, but then…
I used all my strength yet it still wasn’t enough. My heart is clamoring.
It won’t come true? Even so, I still want to be together
When I am with you, I am extremely happy, but,
I know that the distance between us is beginning to change.
Just like that snowy day when we rode the Ferris Wheel
I want it to remain like that forever
I decided then that I wouldn’t give up.
Unfair as it may be, but I won’t do it any other way
I want it to become a happy ending.
I don’t want to lose it all
I really want to be the one who’s closest to you
You are here with me. When I am together with you,
I am happy but then again, it really hurts just as I expected it to.
I am so close to that happy ending, going to and fro from it.
I noticed this feeling, I will bring it out
(The distance that is) beginning to change. I will cross that distance.
Funposting most likely.
>Yukino is supposed to be this transcendent beauty-beyond-words, envied by all, from a rich family, astronomically high grades, and destined to be making gillions of dollars someday.
In other words, a Mary Sue? I mean, even her socializing issues are cast in a "cutesy" light that makes her more attractive to 8man.
>It’s the usual tea-time
Yui is present for those.
>Even if it is just casual talk
Chit chat is meaningless to 8man.
>Everything that you have ever said, I remember it all
She is smart and has a good memory.
>I wasn’t able to be honest
We know she is a liar.
>Because of those feelings that I pushed away
I thought Yukino lived truly. This might be a Hayama reference.
>All of those are really precious to me
Of course, feelings of friendship are important.
>The countless times that I looked at that same photo
Photo of the club or the one she took with everyone at destiny land.
>I break out into a smile ever so naturally
Having fun with friends is a good memory.
>Bringing out all those feelings that I could no longer hide
It isn't good to keep things in.
>Let’s go to the future that I desire.
She meansthe club.
>In that instant when our eyes met
She could mean anybody. She looks most people in the eye.
>Probably, the one who’s enchanted by you
>is me who is right here (waiting for you)
Maybe a Hayama reference. She is waiting for him to make a move.
>Something is beginning to change
Things change in a story, in a person.
>those thoughts that gradually approaches me
>That sort of scene is right here too
I have no fucking clue what this means.
>I am searching for (what you are) searching for as well
The entire club is searching for genuine.
>My heart is clamoring from these unusual expectations
She is not used to wanting what she wants.
>I hugged the stuffed toy tightly
Didn't Hayama give her a Pan-san?
>If I can overcome these countless sleepless nights,
She does seem preoccupied by her problem.
>I wonder if that means I can go and welcome the future as the new us.
A genuine relationship with the club once she stops being dependent.
>In the usual place, I pour my feelings into a new cup
One for Yui and another for 8man. Her best friends.
>So that you will notice me someday
She wants to show the club the her that no longer has a problem.
She doesn't like Haruno though. She likes Yui.
>Pan-san's are sacred and not meant to be shared.
Then she should just give this Pan-san to Yui. Yui wants it so much and has wanted it for almost two years.
This is great. I wonder how many people this will piss off
Yui wants nothing more than this Pan-san and she would never want a knock off. She wants the hon mono Pan-san.
Yukino has many Pan-sans and can get just about any Pan-san she wants. Other Pan-sans don't matter to Yui, only this particular one. Yukino's friendship might be over if she doesn't share.
Someone dissect Sensei's song. It holds all the answers.
I don't like to think Yukino likes 8man. It will lead to a bittersweet end for 8an and a bitter end for Yui. Let's face it, Yui is a sweet and fair girl who is an 8/10 with a 10/10 body. She is a pretty good catch for most guys. But Yukino is a 11/10 that fits 8man well. Looks aside she is far more compatible with him than Yui and the only thing Yui and 8man have between them is the club and her boner for him. Yukino wins this love triangle prettily easily..
God fucking damn do I want sensei to win.
Since Yukino and Yui are in love with the same guy shouldn't that cause friction in the future? So far it hasn't been a factor but I see it and the love triangle as a whole becoming a big part of the plot.
Alternate universe bullshit the author wrote so the Yuifags don't get buttblasted when she inevitably loses. Don't bother with it unless you yourself are a Yuifag. Its like reading a shit fanfiction.
It will be a painful adventure. 8man has one D and only one heart after all. I just hope no hard feelings and for the three to stick together.
>they've decided to stop pretending there isn't more feelings between the 3
Yui and Yukinoo seemed more miserable doing that then they will be when their feelings are in the open.
Yes, Yui realizes that she had been dead the entire time and people start dying all around her, but refuses to die for Hikki's love.
I mean I like yui but I also think yukinon is ok so if this shit is fanfic-tier I don't see any interest on reading it.
Anyone has a summary of it? hardly got any relevant results when googling another, another manga, another light novel and another oregairu.
Most of it is copy and pasted from the original LN, while replacing most Yukino heavy scenes, like the infirmary scene, with Yui. Yukino literally becomes a side character because 8man decides he suddenly couldn't give two shits about her.
which Pan would you san?
All of them.
Each volume has a small part that focuses mainly on one girl, like when Yui and 8man run into Hayato and Haruno, Haruno drags 8man with her to go buy Yukino a present.
I mean, there's nothing objectionable about any of those screenshots. I'm not sure why you think Brains Base would have done a better job. FEEL did just fine, even if they were obsessed with that glow and haze effect.
I don't doubt that his eyes are supposed to be similar to Hachiman's and one of the things Yukino likes about him but the bear + cat analogy in those screenshots is a bit much.
>Pan-san is based of Winnie the Pooh
>the drunken fighting Pan-san is just a watered down version of the real one
>Pooh is very fond of food, especially "hunny" but also condensed milk and other items.
>Pooh is naive and slow-witted, but he is also friendly, thoughtful, and steadfast.
>Pooh is occasionally acknowledged to have a clever idea, usually driven by common sense.
Though not slow witted 8man can be considered friendly despite how he thinks he is, and comes up with solutions using his own logic and carries them out head on.
>Pooh is also a talented poet, and the stories are frequently punctuated by his poems and "hums.
Though I wouldn't call 8man a talented poet, he sure is articulate with his words and those Yukino "sonnets".
This is the inevitable ending I have predicted for months now. This will be the canon one.
This is why I keep coming back to these threads. I forgot that Disney owns Winnie the Pooh, and it makes a lot of sense that he would be Pan-san.
Pooh has become something of an icon of folk philosophy. On the surface he's a lovable idiot, but in fact he's a sage with the confidence and ingenuity to do exactly what he feels is right without regard for what other people might consider sensible or proper. Yukino could certainly use some of that.
In a way, 8-man is a kind of modern bastardization of Pooh. His private thoughts and actions are unencumbered and whimsical, but that mindset clashes with the complex bullshit necessary to fit in with the social structure of Japanese youth.
The eyes are the windows to the soul, and apparently there's something Pooh-like buried in there, even if layers of dead fish have seeped in.
But when she wins the Hikki she will be super happy. Maybe she cares about Yukino but I doubt it will outweigh the joy of being 8man's woman, the one thing that has driven her the most in the series.
We're talking about the main story, not ANOTHER. In ANOTHER she may succeed in getting her Hikki in a shallow non-genuine relationship but in the main story she is going to lose, get her heart ripped out, pissed on, then Hachiman and Yukino will have unprotected sex on top of the remains.
Yui is pretty aware that she might not win the Hikki. I doubt it will crush her that bad unless hse is so attached to him no amount of logic will trump her emotions. She likes him but I think she has more perspective and self worth not to become a mess after 8man says the words she dreads.
We can't be so sure that Yukino will win the main series, no one could win for all we know.
Why is she so god damn cute
? She has had them since the beginning of the series.
Check out the series pages on ANN for credits.
A handful of freelancers did S1, including the writer for Boku no Pico. WW wrote the scripts for the finale and the OVA.
For S2, it was just Shotaro Suga, who does a lot of work for Capcom (DMC4, RE6) and some guy I've never heard of.
Suga also did the series composition for both seasons, which means deciding what each episode will be about and writing a rough outline. Presumably, he and WW had long conversations.
I haven't read volume 11 yet, but does 8man know they both like him by the end?
He is even questioning those now too.
Yui knows Yukino likes 8man and Yukino knows Yui likes 8man. Haruno knows what is going on, as does Iroha and possibly Hayama.
There is no Haruno route in the main story. Haruno's motives are clear, she wants Yukino to avoid Haruno's own fate of having to follow family expectations and to choose a direction. Hachiman is part of her plans, she wants Yukino to express her very obvious feelings for Hachiman at least if not have Yukino and Hachiman be a couple.
not happy, scheming. her little ploy almost worked but Hachiman shot it down when he saw Yukino being unhappy about it. Worry and thoughts about Yukino is the main thing Hachiman does, it's much more apparent in LN than anime.
I don't know if it matters much to Haruno if they become a couple. I think she just wants her sister to confess. It doesn't matter to Haruno if 8man chooses Yui.
It wouldn't surprise me if she wanted some D in high school too.
Yeah but she wanted it to get shot down. Her ploy wasn't really that bad, it would just delay Yukino's development.
As for being even more spoiled, I really fear for poor Kamakura, he'll die of morbid obesity if Yukino is a regular visitor to the Hikigaya house. Yukino will stuff him with caviar, bluefin tuna, giant shrimp and steak
> It doesn't matter to Haruno if 8man chooses Yui.
From Haruno vantage point, if Yukino likes Hachiman and wants to be with him, she wants Yukino to succeed. Confessing her feelings and standing up for what she wants is the most important part. But Haruno wasn't impressed just because Yukino went to her and asked Haruno to help her during the festival arc. She was impressed because Yukino did so effectively enough to get her to go along with it.
She doesn't want her sister to just go for what she wants, but to succeed as well. Now in the case of romance, there's only so much control one person has in it. If Hachiman just likes Yui more, Haruno could probably live with it. But she definitely wants to see them together if that's what Yukino truly wants.
>If Hachiman just likes Yui more, Haruno could probably live with it
I really wonder about that
Yuigahama Yui's suicide and the circumstances surrounding it were strange. First and foremost her autopsy indicated that she was dead before she landed on the ground from the building she was alleged to have jump off of. The wounds and her broken neck were not caused by the fall. There are grounds to open up the case but the police won't budge despite repeated requests from the parents. They had ruled it a suicide before the autopsy was even administered.
I wonder how amazing it would be to have them both together one night after they agreed they wouldn't mind sharing.
Yeah well that's ANOTHER, an alt story that appears to be written with the purpose of throwing as much of the story, character details, and overriding themes out as necessary in order to give Yui her happy end. So a pack of raging Yuifags won't ambush WW one day and murder him after they read vol 12.