Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1482

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

As long as you never give up and you keep pushing to better yourself, you'll make it no matter what. You CAN learn Japanese!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
The productivity now at universities is terrible. Tenure is a terrible idea. It keeps them around forever and they don't have to work hard.

I'm learning Japanese for maitetsu.

First

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ｄｊｔの新タイトル：
積極的に出来ない者たちの日々にようこそ

まずは調子はどうだい
お前はまだ日本語分かってないですかい
ok ill say it in english. whats up dude
何年くらいここに居座ったんですかね

フラッシュカード勉強はどうだ？　何か出来ますか？
いや答えるな
もう決まってるから
djtの勉強方法（皮肉と言えるだろ）なんて不完全なんだよ

証拠は？ このカキコ見ろ

結局何が分かるんですか？
何か勉強になりましたか？
多分無いね
そのなんでも無い生活に生きてる限り

今日も助けは来ない
ankiの書き込みに戻れ
そして踊れ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xEihW4oxuM

Reminder that the objective best way to learn Japanese is to buy a high quality laser from Bitlasers! It's scientifically proven to increase your Japanese capabilities in magnitudes previously considered impossible.

it can also burn your dick off

>>139257510
Didn't Sekai Project announce that and the first leyline VN?

>>139257799
Yes they announced the version with removed content.

>>139257510
I'm learning Japanese for Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa nai.

>>139257570
>そして踊れ
For what purpose.

I'm learning Japanese for my dick.

Does Hanahira have a custom resolution option, or do I have to choose between a small box and fullscreen?

>>139257862
Someone will probably just patch back in the lewd and slap shitty translations on the untranslated content.

>>139257862
i like my hentai porno games the way i like my dick

uncut and not translated poorly into disgusting gaijin tongue

>>139257938
If the english version is any good, I will give you my ass.

>>139257889
俺の楽しみだ

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Most of you are probably aware of this already, but I'll just use the chance to announce it once more while the thread is still young:

The new guide has been implemented.

You're invited to check it out and leave some feedback or a comment, send me an email or to leave me a message right here (just don't expect a reply anytime within the next 12 hours).

That is all.
Happy learning, and good night.

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Stop trying to learn Japanese. You can't do it.

>>139258039
だが断る

>>139258124
for christ's sake, say it properly, in japanese

>>139258039
Thanks for your hard work anon.

>tfw there is an anki deck for wanikani but there isn't an anki deck for bitlasers

>>139258124
You are right, I can't learn something I've already learnt

I find it harder and harder to remember new words around 3500-4000 in the 6k deck, anyone else get that? Maybe it's because there are a bunch of new kanji that have weird readings.

>>139257936
I usually just lower my monitor resolution to 720p from 1080p for old games.

>>139257889
He's just spamming his shitty Japanese in every thread until he finds someone who is actually impressed.

>>139258294
That's around the point where Core starts introducing new kanji again after slowing down around the 2000 mark, yeah.

So, I do not like the fact RtK wants you to recognize kanji by using English keywords for mnemonics. Are there any Anki decks or alternative methods in the CoR that gives you a sentence in hiragana with the kanji applied somewhere, or any other sort of thing where you use Japanese context to learn and retain the Kanji?

>took 20mg Adderall
>it hardly did anything, just made my physically incapable of being tired while I studied

Well so much for that.

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おはようございます

>>139258406
im impressed

>namasensei zip added to the CoR
based

>>139258568
If learning it inside of a piece of vocabulary is sufficient context, then I recommend Core.

>>139258491
Well that makes me feel better about lowering new cards.

>>139258568
If you want context, just do Core2k honestly. The point of RtK is not to make you learn readings.

>>139258703
His 大阪弁 lesson is great.

ふつつかものですがどうかすえながく

>>139258718
You could also just shift your focus to mining. It's easier to learn words that you mined and they're more likely to pop up again in the things you're reading. I dropped Core about 3000 words in and increased my new card rate.

>>139258871
I do 2/3rds core and 1/3rd mined.

不束と不躾が混乱した

I'm using the Furigana Inserter with Firefox + Rikaisama/Anki.

I noticed that Inserter seems to put random spaces between words, even though the text hook displays the text normally. Has this happened to anyone else?

>>139259593
>I'm using the Furigana Inserter with Firefox + Rikaisama/Anki.
Why?

>>139259694

Makes importing into Anki a breeze. It displays the hooked text on a Firefox HTML page that autoscrolls, so then it's just a matter of hitting R over any words.

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>>139258603
>gif

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猫

>>139259247
不調法者
不届者
不束者
不具者

>>139259694
You don't actually use it for Furigana.
You use it because it can watch the Clipboard.

>>139259751
Why would you need the furigana inserter for that, though? Can't you do it without it?

>>139259920
I see, thanks for the additional comment.

>>139258749
>>139258711

What is the reasoning behind the order the kanji are presented in Core? How they build upon primitives, like RtK? How often they appear in content, say newspapers and magazines? How simple they are, or how elementary school children learns them? I really like the logical reasoning behind how the kanji are presented in RtK, just not the method to remember them.

>>139260026
The order presented in RtK is hardly logical. He teaches you completely useless kanji at first as though they're common or something.

Im perfectly fine with memorising and writing hiragana and katakana.
The problem Im having now is mixing them to make words, what would be the best option to learn and remember?

>>139260026
It's a tad bit more complicated than the RtK order. It starts off with numbers and then proceeds to build up with the most used kanji in newspapers, while still having some logic behind it. For instance, most of the time you use kanji you already learned as building blocks for other kanji you'll see later in the deck. But that's not an individual kanji method, it's a vocabulary deck.
>>139260135
From a radical point of view, RtK is very logical though.

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>>139259852
ドーゲ

>>139260150
is this a trick question? anki

>>139260150
read more.

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>>139260208
ヒデヨシ

>>139260150
>mixing them to make words
You mean you're having trouble with vocabulary? I'm not even sure what you're talking about but since you seem new try the recommended learning methods in the guide.

>>139260135

It is logical to me in the sense that it gives you one or two primitives and shows most/all kanji that can be built with the primitives you've learned. The fact that it does not present the Kanji in their order of frequency is hardly a problem since I intend on tackling the whole RtK (or, how it has been suggested, core2k) at once.

>>139259920
>>139259943
>>139259997
Yeah, it's pretty much only used for the clipboard monitoring feature. If someone wants to they could probably take the extension and remove everything except for the clipboard monitor related stuff, but I don't know enough about coding to do that.

>>139260150
just put 2-4 of them together in a random order and youll get a word probably

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>>139260320
イタチ

>>139260415
>most/all kanji that can be built with the primitives
That's not true though, RTK1 doesn't teach you all the kanji, just the most common one (i.e. Jouyou kanji).

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Ok guys, list your 3 favourite Kanji based on looks, sound and meaning

写真 - "Shashin" is the perfect sound for a photo, sounds exactly like a camera.

猫 - Looks so much like a cat that I'm convinced it was created by an ancient japanese kid who was the daughter of the guy who made all the Kanji, and he just stuck her drawing of a cat in there for laughs.

花火 - "Fire Flower" is such a great description of a firework.

>>139260592
>K(k)anji
>posts vocabulary

>>139260415
core2k starts with the usual basics like numbers and verbs like eat, do, drink and so on while also throwing in kanji that are used in a lot of other words, like 上 and 下.

>The fact that it does not present the Kanji in their order of frequency is hardly a problem since I intend on tackling the whole RtK (or, how it has been suggested, core2k) at once.
Not the best mindset since you can definitely start reading long before finishing core2k if you wish to, just get a text hooker.

>>139260592
一　ニ　三

>>139260592
嬲
凸
凹

>>139260592
>魔
>気
>余

>>139260693
>嬲
This one is great.

>>139260641
y-you knew what i meant you cunt

>>139260592
>犇
>戮

>>139260592
Who's the girl in the webm?

>>139260881
Risa. I'm learning Japanese so that I can confess to her my feelings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCJZ_LkjS0I

>>139260592
魘

>>139260912
what feelings im giving you a chance to save yourself here be grateful

>>139261134
the feeling of being cummed inside

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>>139260592
乖離, sounds great and that 乖 is just too damn cute
Of all martial arts move names 燕返 is probably the coolest both looks and sounds wise
And of course 齎す, especially in phrases like 世界に混沌を齎す

>>139260912
>125 beginner Japanese words
>魚眼レンズ

Now that's just fucking stupid

>>139261687
in a world of selfies i think thats pretty reasonable

>>139261687
I often wonder about that video, because it seems to just be a mashup of a ton of other recordings they did that I'm assuming they never released. To the point where atleast one word got repeated (暖かい) and that's just one I noticed.

Thinking about it now though I bet these are all clips of larger videos you can find if you pay for the podcasts101 thing. If not it's very weird.

おにいちゃんおなかすいた

れいのみせのケーキたべたい

>>139262424
You ain't the imouto I know.

Is there some way to change the order that new cards appear in? I just kind of throw as many words as I find into my deck and I want to do certain ones right now but they're hundreds of cards in.

>>139262693
If it's only certain cards, you can manually schedule them instead of waiting for them to be added.

>>139262424
あたしいちばんすきなものをしってる？
ケーキファーツ

>>139262736

Is it Edit > Reposition and then just click okay?

>>139262424
>おなかすいた

I have no idea what anime I heard it in, but when I got to おなか in core2k/6k that "おなかすいた" played in my head and it's been annoying me for ages now.

Is there a character that said this a lot? Is it just a random sentance said once that got stuck in my mind somehow? Who knows.

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Not sure if this belongs here, but I made a map of where 日系生活圏 related stuff is in the US out of boredom. Am I missing anything?

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zVUEpy46bjIc.kWzjteXn5Meo

>>139263048
It's used a lot since it means "I'm hungry".

>>139263048
probably anyone that was ever hungry

one that comes to mind is moe from d.c.

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>>139263071
>Floridian

JUST

>>139263126
>>139263137
yeah it's a common phrase but I have a really specific sound bite playing in my head that's from a specific character.

I guess I'll never know

>>139263324
Yeah I can understand that, everytime I see お兄さま I hear Saori Hayami voice acting Miyuki in Mahouka.

>>139263259
Well, apparently there are a few in Tampa and Miami. I didn't even really look for Florida specifically since it doesn't have many Japanese people. I just added them.

holy shit ive been on /g/ and /pol/ for the last 4 years and i didnt know /a/ was this bad at japanese

>>139263071
Why's it all close to the fucking borders?

>>139263977
Nebraska and surrounding states aren't exactly known for their Japanese population.

>>139263968
そっなことわないよ
わたしたちわ日本語にすごいだよ

>>139264065
The people there just lack vision.

>>139264065
>Nebraska and surrounding states aren't exactly known for their population.
Fixed that for you.
As usual, the map is almost just a general population density map.

>>139264065
everything cool is on one coast or the other

>>139263977
That's where the major cities are.

>>139264065
The borders is where all the people are regardless of race. The middle of the country is all farmland

>>139263968
holy shit

>>139264065
There's a reason they're called flyover states

>>139263977
>LA
Feels good

>>139263071
ザパニーズはアメリカでどう思われているんだろう

>>139264241
how does it feel breathing polluted air every day of your life

>>139264305
Weeds out the weak. Cities have superior genetic material because what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

>>139264305
If you actually do that everyday it feels totally fine, right until you go camping or some shit and then go back and it feels disgusting. It's back to fine in a couple of hours, though.

どんな季節でも
どんな季節にも
どんな季節のなかでも
Are any of these "wrong"? If not, do they have different meanings?

>>139264451
can you use all 3 in some sentences then i can tell you

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>>139264305
>allergic rhinitis

>>139263071

I know know of a market that I ought to check out. Thanks, anon.

>>139264451
どんな季節でもこのパークを楽しめます。
どんな季節にもこのパークを楽しめます。
どんな季節のなかでもこのパークを楽しめます。
I'm leaning towards the second or third but I can't be sure. If there's something else wrong with my examples then I'd love to know too.

>>139258703
I can't wait till his shit is back for Daily Dump. Can't believe it's not in the zip.

>Havent read in 3 days
>Just been watching jap tv and podcasts
A-atleast its compelling

>季節によって果物はおいしくなったり、まずくなったりする。
>Fruit becomes tasty or nasty depending on the season.
I don't get it. Why does it become nasty?

>>139264714
What do you want to say exactly?

Tomorrow, you go to do your reps, to find you've magically become 100% fluent in Japanese.

What would you do?

>>139265110
Flirt with nips

>>139265110
Fuck off to Shitdit

>>139265110
Consume compelling content.

>>139265110

Come back here and commit all fluency to articulate shitposting in Japanese.

>>139265024
You can enjoy this park no matter what season it is.
Is it not clear the way I wrote them? What do each of them mean as they are?

>>139264810
くだものだけじゃないよ
旬のものをたべるのがおいしいとおもうんだよ

初物はおいしくないことがおおいよ

>>139265110
Finish my reps.

>>139265110
Proceed to do my reps to become more literate than an average Jap.
Language study is all I have now so I'm not sure why would I do without it.

>>139265110
Apply for a Japanese visa and start studying German

>>139264714
the first

Is there a pronunciation difference between とうか and とおか?

I thought "-o" always had to be followed by "u" if it was doubled.

>>139265581
>I thought "-o" always had to be followed by "u" if it was doubled.
No.

>>139265581
>I thought "-o" always had to be followed by "u" if it was doubled.
おおき

>>139265581
>Is there a difference
yes

>I thought -o always had to be followed by -u
one of the more common words 十 can be pronounced as とお as in 十日.

>>139265581
Nah man.
多き
大きい

Same goes for -e
お姉さん

What's the best way for a complete newbie to go about learning kana both writing and pronunciation? How did you anons go about doing it? I promised my semi-autistic friend to help him learn Japanese, but I have no idea how to help him with kana. I went to a Japanese immersion school, so I've known kana ever since I was 5 (although I mainly just fucked around for the first ten years so I'm still getting caught up on Kanji and vocabulary), and I actually cannot comprehend the difficulties he may be having with it.


Also, on a somewhat unrelated note. I started the core 2k/6k anki vocab deck 2 days ago, but I know all the super easy beginner words so I've been doing like 100 new cards a day. I recently learned though that there may be some review limit later or something. Is this going to fuck me over, or is it okay to keep doing 100 cards until I feel caught up?

>>139265110
Keep watching the anime I was watching instead of doing the reps in the first place

>>139265581
>Is there a pronunciation difference between とうか and とおか?

There will often be a difference in pitch accent between two words with the "same" pronunciation, so in that sense no but in terms of what vowel sounds you make they will be the same. The お just comes from a different thing from old japanese. Several things written お used to be ほ or を

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>>139265992
>I've known kana ever since I was 5 (although I mainly just fucked around for the first ten years
Does this mean that you're 15 and deserve an underage ban?

>>139265992
>What's the best way for a complete newbie to go about learning kana
Realkana + writing practice

Just set your review limit to 99999 and it doesn't matter how many new cards you do, provided you actually do all your reps every day

>>139266120
No, I mean that the first 10 years up until like mid high school I fucked around and then became interested in it and now study on my own in college.

>>139266120
The thought of 15 year olds coming here is giving me cold sweats.

>>139265992
Well, you could just get him an anki deck with included pronunciation audio.

>>139266185
Come on anon, nobody underage has ever came to 4chan before.

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>>139266185

>>139258749
The second RTK book is all about learning readings, and it's pretty good if you like the idea of signal groupings.

>>139257673
This, I bought a quality bitlaser and now I can watch all of my animes and read all of my mangas and pornographic powerpoints with ease. We should have mentioned this method of learning Japanese earlier and we'll have to try our hardest to bring it up in the future for aspiring learners.

>>139264087
holy shit
wa nai
i was just thinking about how practicing your broken japanese with each other is essentially linguistic inbreeding

Got a long drive tomorrow. Any listening I can do in the car? I wish there was an audio book for Japanese grammar or something.

>For some reason despite me not actually missing any days my anki graphs have just randomly inserted a gap in the middle of this months graphs
O-oh.

>>139266389
Your meme education is lacking. Go back to your meme inbreeding ground, /pol/

>>139266334
It was obvious from context of the discussion that RtK meant RtK1.

>>139266389
Are you reverse-baiting?

>>139266466
Paste DoJG into a text to speech engine

>>139266623
N-not sure if serious

>>139266612
yes
on a serious note do any of you read the yomiuri (or more likely asahi) or do you just read childrens books and nhk kodomo to stay a at a 4th grade level

>>139265992
I used Heisig method to learn kana and managed to learn it within a week. It worked incredibly well for me.

>>139266737
>do any of you read the yomiuri (or more likely asahi)
Where do you think you are?

>>139266737
you should ask my dad this question since that is stuff for dads and fathers

>>139266737
Are these newspapers?
Hardly compelling content.

>>139266827
That's not all that impressive, to be honest. You can brute force it in no time.

初めて4chanに来た
お前らのオススメのboardsをtell me

>>139266997
Good for you?

>>139266737
nhk ezだけ
小学生ですから

>>139266827
>within a week
Wow.

>>139267022
wwwww

>>139267022
>>>/mlp/

>>139267022
/z/

>>139266737
I listen to NHK podcasts. Reading is for nerds

>>139267022
/z/

>>139267058
>nhk ez
hi leddit

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>OP has supposed thread etiquette
>everyone just memeing here

Nice thread

>>139266942
do you read fiction? nonfiction? it doesnt even have to be in japanese but if you dont learn about the culture its more than worthless. whats the good in saying "i dont know anything about that country but i speak their language"

i pass by a everyday in my college, "you cannot be literate in a language without knowing its literature"

and no i didnt just imply newspapers are literature

>>139267268
i just want hentai dude

/z/なんて無いじゃないか

I didn't know mlp.
mlpっておもしろいか？

>>139267156
are you talking about http://www.nhk.or.jp/radionews/ or http://www.nhk.or.jp/lesson/english/download/

>>139267435
>mlpっておもしろいか？
（笑）

>>139264714
the thing is basically youre taking this phrase you had and starting a sentence with it and its not really working out for you.

このパークはどの季節でも楽しめます is a way you could do the first one though you probably shouldnt ever in life

一年中でこのパークを楽しめます if you want to preserve your original sentence but sound less retarded while still without a doubt sounding retarded

two you should probably just see にも being used in more things so you understand when its used

three i just want to kill myself honestly

>>139267237
This is what happens when we don't have a link in the OP to quality lasers to point at the shitposters to keep them in line. Luckily some anons have seen the light and know bitlasers to be the one true path to fluency and enlightenment. That truth shall shine true.

>>139260592
中
出
喜

>>139267553
I dunno dude i use a phone app

>>139267585
>一年中で
Take out the で

>>139267585
if you want to sound retarded while talking about not sounding retarded while speaking a language then just forgo all punctuation capitalization and sentence structure

>>139267435
ポニーショーは面白いだと思うよ

>>139267585
I'd suggest learning English first before trying to correct other people's Japanese.

>>139267670
is it about japanese news or learning japanese

>>139267815
shut up nerd you aint shit

>>139267815
>you need to speak english well to be fluent in japanese

>>139267880
http://www.nhk.or.jp/radionews/ I suppose. I recognize the names

>>139267815
Jamal speaks better Japanese than English though.

>>139267815
im just here to say

get rek'd faggot

>>139267736
本当？見るわ

BTW、お前らどれくらい日本語わかるの？

>>139267969
thats not saying a lot

>>139267969
>Jamal
I still prefer "underage autist"

>>139267921
assuming that english is his native language and he surely considers himself fluent while still managing to type like a nignog id assume he also sounds like a nignog in japanese while claiming fluency here in a malaysian fingerpainting board among people he claims to despise who he already knows dont know japnaese

>>139268066
そうですね
半分かな

>>139268066
mlp見なくていいよ
どうせ英語のアニメみるならsouth park, rick and morty, archerとかが面白い

どうしようーー。まずはホテルフロントに言って助けてもらおう。フロントデスクにいき『助けてほし
い』と言ったら『チェックアウトか？』と『違うバッテリが死んだ。』すると『あそこに立ってる人に
聞け！』その人にお願いするも　あの人に聞けだの　いや、あいつだ。とたらいまわしに。


いや、あいつだ。とたらいまわしに。

I don't get this. My attempt:
"What should i do.. First I went to try to get help from the front desk. When I went and said "I'd like help" she said "Checking out?" I said "no, my car battery is dead". Then the reception said "go ask that guy standing over there". When I asked that person he said try asking that guy, and it went in circles like this"

>>139268101
i actually like everyone dude even you

granted i dont know how much of this gimmick goes over peoples heads

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Is Sakura OP's new plan to jamalpost this place to hell?

>>139268190
I think he's still caught up in the bitlaser thing

>>139268190
Nah I don't think so. Even if it is I don't really care at this point. Pretty sure that's why no one gives a shit that that one guy is tripfagging or any of the other stuff the thread would usually be mad about, because none of that is anywhere near as bad as the raging sakura autist.

>>139268066
>お前らどれくらい日本語わかるの？
なにもわかんないけどお兄ちゃん

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>>139268180
Your attempt is pretty good. I'm not sure what you don't get.

Does anyone know what this font problem is tho?

>>139266612
>It was obvious from context of the discussion that RtK meant RtK1.
Most people here have no idea what RTK when they discuss it and aren't aware that the entire programme is just as much about learning readings as it is about learning how to recall the kanji.

>>139268331
brackets will mess your life up

>>139268190
You guys really need to take a breather because these boogeyman are getting really sad. It's no different than /pol/tards and their jews by this point.

>>139268379
>Most people here have no idea what RTK when they discuss it and aren't aware that the entire programme is just as much about learning readings as it is about learning how to recall the kanji.
That's because most people only use the first and third part of RtK. In the context of the discussion, anon was asking about RtK1. RtK2 isn't popular anyway.

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>>139268417
It's been happening frequently lately

>>139268459
Says the guy who has people from /pol/ has boogeymen.

>>139268476
>replying to autists
Next you'll respond to the argumentative autist above you

>>139268459
People misuse them a fair amount, but Jamal is real and Sakura autist (name tentative since he's done much much more than get upset over having a shitty image rejected) is VERY VERY real.

>>139268486
brackets and commas will mess your life up

>>139268140
Foreigners who learn the Japanese in the anime will be introduced in the well Japanese TV
Is that common？

>>139268185
even me huh thats odd

>>139268585
some people get really mad and go crazy here but not me. i just take things easy and chill out generally. i mean look at all the flack i get

i just let go and let god deal with it while i watch his creations dance

Watching Usagi Drop makes me want to raise a cute little ハーフ with a nip woman.

But I need to learn this darned language first ;-;

>>139268687
ur nip is shit m8

>>139268818
the truth is you really dont. you can actually live that life without knowing much japanese (less japanese than you probably already know now)

theres people doing it right now

>>139268818
>Mr D is in his 20s and involved in a venture business. Here’s a nice domestic scene: While his wife prepares dinner, he’s in the living room playing a video game, his infant daughter asleep beside him on the sofa. The little girl wakes up and starts to cry, so Mr D picks her up, places her on his lap and goes on with his game – at which his wife, suddenly furious, storms out of the house, leaving him to wonder why and figure it out if he can. He can’t. It’s hours before she returns, and when she does, she’s trembling. She indicates a carving knife in the kitchen. “I could have killed you,” she says, to all appearances as bewildered by her rage as her husband is.
Never ever marry a Japanese woman. Those people are mental.

>>139268180
たらいまわしはわかるけど
たらいまわしを英語でどういうかはわからないよ

>>139268880
i think he might also be interested in being able to actually have a meaningful conversation with a decent woman and not just banging a desperate cake whose name he can barely pronounce who will leave him once she has her baby

>>139268687
you got nothing to be mad about bro you're a pimp in japan thanks for coming to 4chan to spread truth and knowledge

>>139268979
>here's a crazy thing one person did
>therefore everyone of said persons' race/gender are crazy

>>139269058
you can learn japanese after you have a japanese girlfriend though why would you ever want to talk to your woman other than to demand more beer

also thanks dude you too youre also pimping

>>139269102
They're all the same.
>And so we meet Mr C, a company employee in his 50s, announcing to his wife one weekend morning, “I’m taking the dog for a walk. I’ll be back at noon.” A pause to chat with a neighbor delays him a bit. Home at 12:30, he finds himself facing a furious wife whose barrage of slaps and punches sends his glasses flying. Worse than the pain is the shock. Now he’s afraid to leave the house, he says, for fear of the wrath he may unwittingly provoke.

im reading through japanese the manga way but im not taking notes. im only 70 pages in so i guess i could restart but is taking notes even necessary?

damn i just want to read some ezpz japanese books

>>139269243
>but is taking notes even necessary?
Not really.

You should ideally be trying to read through your grammar reference at a fairly fast pace so that you get acclimatized to the basic grammar, and then starting to read actual content using your grammar book as a reference.

Trying to "master" your basic grammar book is a common mistake to make that won't really do you much good.

Has anyone used a cloze deck to review Tae Kim sentences/grammar? I read the guide, but I feel like my eyes glazed over every time. I didn't have any trouble understanding the particles and grammar points, just didn't like his walls of text.

>yfw it will take 3.6 years doing 30 words a day to achieve adult native vocabulary

Every time I come across one sentence or phrase I don't understand in an LN I completely lose motivation.

>>139269461
I used a regular deck and it worked great.

>>139269514
がんばって

>>139269514
Could go much faster if you had a bitlaser in your hands to point you in the ライト direction.

Doesn't seem too bad though.

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>>139269595

I'm using whatever deck this is.

>>139269514
That's why you supplement it by mining any interesting words you see.

>>139269712
I don't want to do more than 30 words a day, whether they're mined or not

>>139269514
Watch a lot of anime and j-drama and it can take a lot less time.

>>139269733
My vocab is too low to understand enough of it though. I watch a lot of subbed anime though.

>>139269730
You'll never learn Japanese if you don't even have the basic curiosity to fill in the gaps that you see.

>>139269733
>recommending anime and drama for vocabulary
no

>>139269617
bitlaser trip report

my dick, reduced to an ashy pile

日本語、脳の底から現れた

>>139269406
trying to master your basic grammar book (and i can only assume you mean 日本語基本文法辞典) is what many students whose understanding of japanese goes far beyond their ability to speak japanese hear, and make a fuss about it because they think its an insult to their intelligence. its them saying they see your speaking ability could easily be improved by practicing speaking the grammar you already know.
天才だからそれは全く要らない事だ！！

>>139269514
>3.6 years to do something it takes other people 18 years to do
Not too bad.

is learning mandarin harder than learning moon?

>>139269894
I don't actually understand the point you're trying to convey here. Will you rephrase it?

>>139269894
おちつけおにいちゃん

>>139269948
お兄ちゃん言うな

>>139260592
「閃く」
Not even english has a good enough word for this phenomena. Tha closest is that lightbulb when you think of an idea.

>>139269995
ひさしぶりだな
あのギャグ

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>>139270125
わかんない

>>139268543
No they are not. I've been called "Jamal" for disagreeing with someone in a thread, along with another few anons in the same thread being called Jamal then the accuser sperged out after being showed screenshots which disprove this. It's just paranoia: please learn how to deal with the fact that not everyone is going to agree with you all of the time. For your own sake, really.

>>139270099
Epiphany.

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I need to be more consistent.

>>139270699
I think you have problems

>>139269695
Would you mind exporting that without schedule data and uploading it to uguu or something? Been looking for that deck for someone for the past day but can't find it online.
Or if you have a link from where you found it, could you please link that? Can't find it in shared decks or the CoR or anything.

>>139269514
>thinking you actually need 20k words
10k here and I dont really have problems.
If you really want just do 100 new a day, Native vocab level easy

>>139270771
Probably but they aren't related to this thread and even less to do with this issue.
When people are throwing around boogey-anons which often end up being disproved not long after, the problem lies in the paranoid poster.

>>139270857
There is a real person who posts in this thread frequently without punctuation/capitalization and with an arrogant/childish posting style, and has been doing it for maybe a month. If you read through this thread you can see him. Just because people misidentify someone occasionally (since it is an anonymous imageboard) doesn't mean its a boogeyman

>>139269807
Why not?
With Subs2SRS an anon can automatically generate vocab cards with audio, sentences, video, context, etc.
There are a bunch of Japanese subtitles on this page: http://www.d-addicts.com/forums/page/subtitles
Not sure of the difficulty of finding the source content.

Subs2SRS manual/download:
http://subs2srs.sourceforge.net/
Koohii thread about the program:
http://forum.koohii.com/thread-2512-post-40831.html

just be who you wanna be and dont worry what they call you

>>139269574
I was the same and I posted something like you did and some anon gave me the best advice concerning this language anyone has ever given me :
Don't think too hard about it.

>>139271012
>Why not?
Because tv generally has a lower level of vocabulary than literature obviously. Also because drama aren't compelling content.

>>139271011
>There is a real person
It isn't one person.
Welcome to anonymous image boards.
You are paranoid.

>>139271040
>Because tv generally has a lower level of vocabulary than literature obviously.
Words and words and context is context.
>Also because drama aren't compelling content.
It is for a large amount of people.

>>139271040
>>Because tv generally has a lower level of vocabulary than literature obviously.
Which doesn't really matter if your goals are watching tv and/or talking in real life to real people.

>Also because drama aren't compelling content.
Nice opinion.

>>139271040
>drama aren't compelling
Spoken like a true weeb.

>>139271138
>Which doesn't really matter if your goals are watching tv and/or talking in real life to real people.
He didn't mention those. He only mentioned having a native level vocabulary. Therefore your suggestion was off the mark.
>>139271074
>Words and words and context is context.
More words in less time is better than fewer words in more time.

ようこそ一人ぼっち

>>139271074
>It isn't one person.
Ok which of the following are you?

>>139268687
>>139268880
>>139269058
>>139267585
>>139266737
>>139257570

おにいちゃんおなかすいた

かっぱえびせんかってきて

>>139271011
hello i heard youve been reading my posts 読んでくれてありがとう

>>139271074
actually it is my dream that one day it will actually not all be one poster
スレ空気を俺が変わります

>>139271259
4 of those belong to me

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>>139271415
うまる
いいかげんおきろ

日本に、俺わなる！

>>139272161
われわれわわわさいわっているわ

我カ名ワニホム

>>139272659
Reschedule them for today.

>>139272689
I feel stupid. Thank you.

あたしはねこがすき

おにいちゃんのすきなペットはなんですか

>>139273034
うさぎもいもうとも

>>139273034
あなたは本当に妹ですか？
何でimouto.jpgがない？

>>139273239
あたしはねこのちんちんがだいすき

Do you mean gay bro?

>>139273372
笑

>>139273034
ペットがよく好きじゃないでもねこでおK

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>start my nightly reading
>remember I left off at the beginning of an H scene

While reading Flyable Heart, I made a rule that I would fap to every sex scene to strengthen my bond with the girls, and that was an okay rule for my first VN, but it is getting annoying. For Satsukoi and future VNs, I'll change it to at least once per girl.

>>139273095
うさぎとあたしどっちがだいじなの

>>139273372
ねこのωの毛がふわふわ

>>139273447
にゃんこきゃわわ

>>139273372
>>139274399

Why can't you guys just use kanji?

>>139274472
漢字はかわくない。

So I'm like a week into core anki and my retention has gone to shit. I was okay until the last day or two. I can see a card and forget it in like 10 seconds. My last two sessions have taken forever since I seem to just again the cards endlessly.
Is 20 new cards a day too much to start with?
Am I just retarded?

>>139274399
「うさぎもいもうとも」というのはうさぎといもうとをすきじゃないわけだ

>>139274472
あたらしいギャグとなるよ

>>139274617
yeah prolly just retarded

>>139274472
If you type in kana and don't make any obvious mistakes people will think you're imouto

>>139258568
Any kanji book not named fucking RTK will teach you kanji the way you'd originally imagined.

>>139274617
What kind of words do you get stuck on? At the beginning of Core there are a number of words that can be hard to remember (like the numbers and days of the week). It's pretty normal, and since those words actually aren't used that often you could suspend them.

Even if it's not those, I think it's normal for it to take a while to get used to the kanji and how words are structured. Don't sweat it too much.

theres a reason its called remember the kanji and not learn the kanji right

>almost finished tae kims guide

Was I meant to understand any of that?
What do I do now?

>>139274987
thats it youre all done. welcome to japan

>>139274617
If you're just starting then it's fine to have a hard time at first. If the problem is you trying hard and not being able to remember the cards, try doing your reps after a good meal or bath.
If that still doesn't help, the problem lies with your motivation.

>>139275016
Helpful comments are appreciated.

Memesters fuck off

>>139275132
helpful comment learn how to read also welcome to japan

>>139275063
lifestyle choices can and do affect short term memory. short term memory is also a skill that can be trained itself

>>139274987
I'd say go read the OP guide as it tells you what to do, but sadly someone deleted it and replaced it with his own inferior version.

>>139275063
>try doing your reps after a good meal
If I could give people struggling with their nip (or really any other kind of study) one piece of advice this would be it.

My study effectiveness increases like 10 fold if I schedule my study to happen after I eat a meal.

>>139275262
Caffeine also helps. Food + caffeine = easy reps.

Reminder to read compelling content and not get so fixated on your anki stats. It doesn't matter how many EDICT definitions you can recall if you can't properly interpret the sentence before you.

Switch to J-J dictionaries as soon as possible. J-E ones are only acceptable provided that you're using one that matches a Japanese definition to an English one. This ensures that you won't misunderstand the usage of the word and just pick to interpret something however you want to.

If you write 留める, you shouldn't want to just see the definition of 'to stop'. There should be something like 「制止させる」 next to it to help you affirm that it is the right definition. You can even note the distinction in nuance here and how 制止させる doesn't completely equate to 'stop' （相手の言葉や行動をおさえ）

Happy reading. Remember that the furigana inserter and ITH is simply phenomenal.

>>139271520
おまえ、日本に住んだことあんでしょう。こんなに日本語流れるのは日本に住んだことあるか話相手があるか両方しかない。
教えてくれじゃんか、２ちゃんにのポストをできる仕方。日本にいたころ俺ぶらぶらしちゃって日本語全く分からんでいま後悔して勉強しなおしたいよ。

教えていただけろよ。。ポストしかた。ガチのガチにおねがいするから。

If I started about 3 months ago, what are the odds I'll be able to understand at least 50% of the tsukihime remake whenever it gets released?

>>139276093
Are you a neet? Do you have access to amphetamines?

>>139276093
Pretty high I guess, considering that it seems like it's a long way from getting released.

>>139276152
yes and no

>>139258585
Send that Adderall my way then fampai

>>139260592
炎
鎧
闘

>>139275379
Fuck off spamくん

>「さっき思いっきり二階から直で来てたじゃないか」
How does one read the 直 in this sentence? It has a ton of readings.

>>139277225
jiki

>>139277320
no nevermind I was wrong I think http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1275653997

>>139277320
>>139277340
「じか」か「ちょく」なのかなあ
方言っぽいんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

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>>139277470
What Japanese font are you using? It's very nice.

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>>139271189
>More words in less time is better than fewer words in more time.

More words in less time > Less words in more time.

>>139277497
Yu Gothic. It's a default font in windows 10 I think

What happened to Namasensei?

>>139277561
Does this really need to be asked every single thread?

>>139277561
He got liver cancer from alcohol abuse and died

For those of you that are learning radicals as well as vocabulary, is there a good Anki deck for it?

I don't want ot bother learning all of hte Kanji seperately but I think knowingthe Radicals will help my retention.

>>139277561
go to his channel, read his channel description

>>139277620
Really? I heard he got arrested for sexually harassing the students and is locked up in a Japanese prison.

>>139274552
かわいくない

>>139277526
遊ゴシックは漢字圏で作られたフォントではないので漢字は読み難いです

windows標準ならメイリオが見やすいはずです

>>139277796
Yeah I have Yu Gothic on core and Meiryo on my mining deck. I don't really mind either

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r8
Most people switch solely to mining after this point don't they?

>>139278033
Yes, once you get to 2000 you really should be getting all of your new cards from mining and having Core there as a fallback if you have a day where you mine fewer cards than your new per day is at.

are you supposed to press "good" when a new card first appears?

>>139278171
>Are you supposed to push a button that indicates you know the answer to something that you don't
You didn't really think this through did you?

Is it a bad idea to start mining before starting the deck? I want to start doing my mining deck after finishing KD in a week or so, but I already have a number of cards there.

>>139278033
Nice job anon you've gotten much more consistent.

Where do you guys download VNs from? I've been looking on nyaa/sukebei but haven't had much luck finding anything (tried both japanese and english titles). And the few I've been able to download seem to have just been uncracked disc images which I'm able to install after changing system locale but won't actually get past the startup menu.

>>139278033
よんじゅっぷんはがんばろおにいちゃん

>>139278145
Yeah that's what I was thinking.

>>139278230
I go through phases where I lose all motivation and end up skipping anki. I hate doing it but vocabulary is my weakest part and I really should be doing anki anyway so hopefully I can keep it up.

>>139278297
What VNs haven't you been able to find on nyaa? Every time I've ever wanted to read a VN it's been there.

>>139278297
when pirating is the only option I have always found it on sukebei or piratebay, but recently many have become available on legit sites like steam, mangagamer, magino drive etc.

>>139278297
Try rutracker

>>139275472
あるとき俺も日本に住んでいたけど
それは関係ない
お前に教えるものなどない
自分の問題を解決するために強みを利用しろよ

>>139278297
the fuckin store because stealing is for fuck heads

>>139278195
i have been pressing again because that's the obvious thing. but i was thinking about the correct % stat, and how that's skewed by new words which are first being introduced. even if someone never forgets any card, they can't have a 100% correct rate. if someone has seen a new card for the first time, i wouldn't count their knowledge of it toward their correctness, you know? that's why i was wondering about it. but i suppose it doesn't matter that much.

>>139278441
Firstly, the only one who your correct percent affects is you. Nobody else will even see it unless you decide to post it.

Secondly, you shouldn't really be caring that much about your overall % correct. The only one that you should really take notice of if it seems low is your % correct on mature cards which is not at all affected by the thing you're complaining about.

>>139265193
literally this, I am learning japanese for the sole purpose of shitposting in style

>>139278441
If you care about fake achievements, press 'good' on new cards. If not, it doesn't matter.

>>139278441
The first press doesn't count. And anything from 97% upwards is perfectly fine.

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DON'T STUDY CONJUGATION

THE MASTER HAS SPOKEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw6hCaw_mDM

>>139278590
What are those numbers? Words he knows? He's fucking terrible at nip

>>139278590
How does he measure the vocab he's got in all those languages?

>>139278616
>>139278618

LingQ word stats

>>139278033
https://youtu.be/DSfYrPdTKVA

>>139278616
He didn't bother to add many words for Japanese because he was already fluent in Japanese decades before LingQ

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>>139278590

>>139278590
What a scam.

>>139278590
Wait, people don't know this? Conjugations are completely worthless to study, you just read them in actual text.

お前みたいな奴にだけには言われたくない

>>139278660
I haven't met or seen anyone who speaks Jewish before. Is it hard to learn?

>>139278708
＞言われたくない
何を？

>>139278732
It's a hard language. The learning curve is intentionally high so that the filthy goyim won't be able to read the Talmud

>>139278304
Maybe I should do 60 words a day then kek

>>139278732
黒人のホモ

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>>139275246
Friendly reminder that useable feedback is highly appreciated, that you are free to produce your own guide and that the previous versions of the guide are still easily accessible.