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What the fuck happened to quality standards in animation? Wh

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What the fuck happened to quality standards in animation? Why has the production value gone down the toilet like that, even when we never had so much technology to produce great content?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl17zOz5vTs

Just compare this from FMA 2003, to the dull stretched out padding heavy animation of its 2009 counterpart. Even the colors have lost their vivacity and there's no sense of perspective to extract from them, characters are animated on lifeless backgrounds like in front of a blue screen.

They took away the intensity from anime and now you're better off reading the manga and imagining fast paced action on your own.
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>>134711821
Oh great, another idiot
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>>134711942
shitposter kun pls
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Somewhat nrelated to your topic: Aside from obviously the change in staff and animators, a huge chunk that produced FMA 2003 actually went on to form P.A. Works.
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>>134711821
In the original comics, their fight took place in a plain white room. The 2003 adaptation changed the location.
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>>134712087
So they went on to use their creative energy for pillow hugger shit?
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>>134712288
2003 deviated from the manga and became it's own thing. The fucked up harsh ending was at least original and arguably better than the cookie cutter happy ending of the manga.
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Don't worry anon. Next season will have animation like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uof4H-or85M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIS05b8rArU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3BLmlEehIY
And there will be more and more of it with every season.
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>>134712325
Aside from maybe "CANAAN" (which had similar action scenes and effects/lighting to FMA 2003), more or less yeah. I know parts of the team are also working on that "Under The Dog" Kickstarter anime and it shows.
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>>134712462
What the fuck is this garbage.
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>2003 sympathizers
ugh
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>>134712594
>>134712462
It looks like they're getting more and more desperate to find a middle ground between how fucking amazing 2D animation can look, and how cheap 3D animation is to produce in comparison.

Looks like they're having a very very hard time...
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>>134712764
What happened in the span of a decade between 2000 and 2010 to lead us to this shit.
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>>134711821

Another kid who thinks his childhood anime is better than the newer version. As if it wasn't bad enough to keep hearing this shit from HxH fans.
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You remind me of those 99fags from Hunter x Hunter but without any actual valid points to bring up to at least make a discussion worth engaging.
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>>134711821
Brotherhood looked better than 03 you blind faggit.
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>>134713523
The very first shot of your webm is a low quality quickly drawn bradley, it goes on to feature a stock charge animation with the cliche supersonic background. There's no sense of distance of distance or weight. Just flashy things to be appreciated by someone with a sub average IQ who cannot process information fast enough anyway.
And I would say that's pretty low key compared to the crap we see especially with the chibi chinese girl.
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>>134713523
There wasn't much happening in that one t b h

a couple of them fights were still good tho
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>>134713886
>There's no sense of distance of distance or weight.
I keked
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>>134713603
>
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>>134713886
>>134713901

...sigh
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>>134714301
>Flashy effects are the pinnacle of animation.
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>>134712391
>The fucked up harsh ending was at least original and arguably better than the cookie cutter happy ending of the manga.
The World War 1 shit was ridiculous and stupid.
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>>134714377
>fading details
>Scar floating up and down
Kek. Is he a bird?
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>>134714377
>>134713523
Brotherhood had great animation and this is a retarded thread but you're picking some poor fucking examples
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>>134711821

Because anime has become about finding ways to bilk as much money as possible over fanatic believer types who don't care much about things like animation quality, storytelling, character development etc. As long as it looks like the product they worship that's generally enough to more than get by. That's why you have shows like Monogatari where it's mostly just talking and fanservice and every week people are losing their shit and praising it cause they're fanatics who eat that kind of shit up regardless of whether they spend 50,000 yen on an episode or 50,000,000.
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>>134714377
Not the guys above, but this isn't good animation at all. The first jump is completely unrealistic and Scar is just floating around. Look at his body movements, they defy the laws of physics.
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>>134714461

You want to talk to Fate UBW fans?
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>>134713523
>>134714377
holy shit this is suppose to be good?
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>>134714732
>became
When was the anime industry not like that?
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>>134711821
>poorly hidden "03 FMA is da bess!" thread
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>>134711821
It's really not fair to use Ed vs Greed as a basis for comparison. That scene is a visual orgasm.
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Webm thread?
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>>134715357
Wow, I seriously just noticed the panda is copying her moves.
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>>134715254
>all that QUALITY
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>>134715254
Is this a montage? Because it looks like there are a lot of frames missing.
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>>134716307
I miss Escaflowne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSlNHi6wgQQ
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>>134711821
The animation in the video wasn't that impressive. That punch to the stomache was pathetic.
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FMA 2003 has shit animation compared to the 2009 version tho.
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The early 2000s had plenty of poorly animated shit though, if anything it might be one of the worst periods for anime because of the transition from traditional animation to digital.

I don't think it's that surprising that the original series had better animation, since that was when the series was at its peak in popularity.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMX4UIrzW0E
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>>134716485
Hey, it's that guy from Gurren Lagann.
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>>134716364
what anime is this/
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>>134716755
Tsukihime
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>>134715357
This one is ok at least.
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>>134715464
All King Bradley fight scenes made my dick diamonds
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>>134715357
>>134715464
Way better than the first examples.
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>>134718392

Ohh anon, you.
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>>134719017
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>>134719279
space blandy was utter shit
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>>134712391
Just because the Alternate Real-World NAZI Germany Dimension is 'original' doesn't make it any less shit. It's practically an insult to the entire manga.

The last half of 2003 FMA was jumping one shark only to jump an even bigger one.
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>>134712594
>>134712764
>>134712853
>All CGI is trash
Shit meme
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>>134719317
Nice meme weeb.
Are you still mad about the dub airing first but being unable to send the threads to /co/ because SD is still anime?
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>>134719371
Also let me add
>studios specializing on CGI who have done all their animation with CGI making CGI shows means every studio will use CGI in the future
How retarded can you be to claim that?
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>>134712462
Bubuki looks pretty good for a 3D anime.
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>>134716307
Escaflowne had ridiculous budget, like, a small country's GDP kind of budget. It was golden age for animation and sadly it will never happen again. Economy sucks balls. Escaflowne is love.
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>>134719607
Don't you know anon? All CGI is dogshit. There's no good CG. That's the ebin meme you need to obey if you want to belong to the ebin sekrit club,
Another ebin meme to follow like a religion is that every anime will be CGI in the future using shows made by studios that have always done their shows in CGI and never in 2D as proof. The proof may be shitty. But that's the ebin meme. Follow it or you can't fit in
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>>134715464
Panda?
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>>134715695
Where?
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Periodic reminder that if you think Brotherhood is better you are a pleb with pleb taste.
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>>134720100
Noel is such a qt. An air headed qt.
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>>134720534
>>134720100
Now without annoying green border.
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It's always fun seeing a non-sakugafag talk animation.

It's cute.
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>>134719279
But those are from the same series. Same episode even.
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>>134722945
You've been rused.
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>>134711821
Are you actually arguing that early 2000s coloring was good? Holy shit, watch more than two anime.
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>>134722945
fur sie
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>>134711821

creative slavery in Japan and South Korea is exposed and frowned upon, Japanese merchant have to pay their animators livable wages now.

Which means that they cannot afford to do animations with a lot of frames because their money cannot go far.

And that's basically it.

It is also the reason, Western animation is doing it worse because pay is higher in US so the quality drop even further.

The only ones that can afford great animations are billion dollar earners, such as movies and AAA games because right now, great animations cost around USD$5 million and above. Nothing below that.

Japan don't have billion dollar earners.
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>>134724197

So shit like pic will be norm for US shit?
Well, fuck it then. I am watching chinese cartoons only. Western crap can fuck off.
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>>134719371
>All CGI isn't trash
Shit opinion
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>>134711821
I liked both FMA's series but you are a FUCKING RETARD if you think the animation for the first FMA anime was better.

So please get the fuck out of her with this dumbass shitpost.
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Animation for the average series is far better now than it was for the average series before 2003 or so. That's better than a handful of very well animated shows a season and a mountain of garbage, which was the case throughout the early 90s and 2000s.

Late 80s was the best time, but you can't really compare because tv hadn't overtaken ovas and movies as the dominant medium yet.
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>>134712391
the WW1shit was fucking dumb
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>>134712462
That's not new. It's from a show called RWBY I think.
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>>134724197
But none of that is true, where the fuck did you hear any of it?
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>>134716485
there are fights in idolmaster?
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>>134726548
>Late 80s was the best time, but you can't really compare because tv hadn't overtaken ovas and movies as the dominant medium yet.
OVAs didn't even exist until the mid-80s.
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Does anyone have any of the Getter Robo Armageddon Webms?
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>>134711821
FMA was filled with speed lines kek.
It's called Key animation, and every anime worth shit has such scenes. Sadly, they blow all the budget on a few cool scenes and the rest (95% of the episode) is filled with static images with moving mouths and speed lines.
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>>134727121
I don't think you know what key animation is.
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>>134727121
Actually Dad, it's called sakuga. It's a form of animation far superior to flash animation and static images.
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>>134711821
>Ed uses Greed's arm to perform that kick

Damn that's cool
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>>134719371
pic related
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>>134726806
Does RWBY airs as late night anime as standard half-hour show?
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