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Clearly I'm in the minority but I found the creative ways they used Hamon to be far more interesting.
Part 2 made Hamon interesting in the same way Part 4 made Stands interesting.
Kinda wished Araki introduced a new power every 2 parts. Right now I'm reading Part 5 and I think that Stands have kinda worn out their welcome because now everyone in Passione HAS to have a Stand.
If you haven't read the !manga then that's why. Part 3 stands were the least creative because he was just fiddling with the idea and trying to get rid of the obvious kind of powers ( Fire, water, time stop, swordsman, sand control, ice, gun etc.) Even then we got some interesting ones like Judgemen, Atum and Other D'arbya stand who's name I forget, Boingo'd stand, Hanged man
If not then you're just weird, ham on was interesting but stands are much more diverse and leaves a lot more possibilities for "Ah-ha!" Or "oh shit!" Moments during fights.
I know what you mean. I feel like stands have lost their uniqueness.
That's why I like 7 so much: we're introduced to Gyro's spin technique (which is essentially hamon just with a different name) and then Stands.
It's cool to have both abilities exist in the same world instead of completely downplaying them like they did in Part 3. Joseph probably could have, oh I don't know, healed everyone's fucking wounds or used his Hamon to fuck with people.
>Clearly I'm in the minority but I found the creative ways they used Hamon to be far more interesting.
It was also more believable. A far stretch, but based on whimsy. Then it went full retard. I don't hate the stands, but I also wanted more RIPPLE.
You're in the majority among faggots who never read the manga. Part 3 is incredibly conservative with stands because Araki was still deciding what he wanted to do with them. They'll start getting more imaginative in the next part and eventually you'll realize hamon was so limited it had nowhere left to go.
The only thing I wanted from Hamon is to have Joseph use it more often in Part 3. He was also given an underwhelming Stand.
But he would wreck majority of the enemies by himself if Araki wouldn't shit on him, so I guess that's fair.
No, I'm currently reading Steel Ball run. God forbid I don't jerk off to Part 5's constant stand battles (zzzzzz), I must have never read the manga.
>implying every fight involving Sticky Fingaz wasn't amazing
I almost agree otherwise. I wish Part 5 actually used its Italian Mafia setting/genre more and not just as a vehicle for a mediocre retread of Part 3.
>but I also wanted more RIPPLE.
Yea, Part 3 had the right idea of keeping Hamon and vampires around, even if Stands are more prominent. Santanna would have made a cool villain if he came back from hibernation and gained a Stand.
it's a shame the only animated stand part so far was the one with the worst and most boring stands
the shit araki gets up to with stands in parts 4, 5, 6 is pretty damn bizarre
>Keeping Hamon and vampires around
Hamon was mentioned 2-3 times at most, and every time it was just used to show that it isn't powerful any more, and doesn't work against stands.
Vampirism was an excuse for two characters to have physical strength, which isn't even necessary given Jotaro is probably stronger than any other character without a stand.
This may be true for anyone else but we're talking about fucking Joseph Joestar here.
Hermit Purple in the hands of young Joseph could have been fucking amazing. Too bad that Araki decided to ignore him so much in part 3.
Seriously, Joseph had the perfect power set for a man like himself.
>Hamon, basically The Force
That on top of Joseph still being a clever son of a bitch had great potential. But we really only see him use it for like 3 fights.
Hey, Joseph did actually come pretty close to just zapping DIO out of existence with Hamon. Still got his ass whupped but I mean, DIO came thiiiis close to physically attacking him with The World and Joseph would have won right there.
>move objects without touching them
>mind control the weak-minded
>prolonged life and youth
>can basically do anything as the plot demands
Yea no it's more or less The Force
Polnareff has a nearly identical scene with Diavolo as he did with DIO in Part 3, but inverted so he's on top of the staircase. It's not a meme, Part 5 goes out of its way to resemble Part 3. King Crimson's ability is what happens when Araki wants to have another timestop villain without seeming like he's out ideas, so of ideas, so KC has a roundabout not-timestop ability that's totally different.
Except no, you're a fucking moron.
And what hamon does was always set in stone and anything it did never stepped outside set rules.
Stands, on the other hand.
King Crimson is not similar to The World is any way.
And a couple of scenes that play off of part 3 scenes BECAUSE characters from that part are involved do not make the parts similar.
Yfw D4C has a cross on him because his user is looking for Jesus's body parts and because he can cross universes
That its a breathing technique that imitates the rays of the sun, flows through living things and substances that fuel life such as plants and water.
Its power can pass through solid matter, and make things less solid more rigid.
The sparks are simply the effect hamon gives off, it doesnt fucking electrocute things and its certainly not capable of mind control.
Im not sure where "moving things without touching them" comes from either.
>stops time so that only the user enters a realm where only he can move and see, making him able to dodge anything and kill anyone during stopped time
>"skips" time so that the user enters a realm only he can voluntarily move and see, making him able to dodge anything and kill anyone during "skipped" time
KC and TW are functionally identical.
No, it's contrarian to speed-read through all 7 parts and adopt whatever retarded opinion 4chan has about everything. But constructive opinions about this series are dead because of all the shitty kids who participate in the daily generals.
Its all the same manga, and brining myself down to you pasty-nigger's levels by comparing parts of it makes me feel ill
You have no concept of how King Crimson works. But I am not going to spoon-feed you, re-read part 5.
Hell, even the shitty wiki has a better description than what you think it is.
Every Jojo thread has become a shit-show of retards bickering and circlejerking off horseshit. Of course Im mad, Id wish youd all sit in a circle and cut each other's throats.
Preferrably right before nap time in whatever kindergarten class you all share
Of course these threads are going to be shit if you spend the entire time complaining about them, I honestly don't have a grudge against the quality of posts lately.
The Part ranking and Stand OC shit is cancer, but that's still the blatant minority of a thread and we get a lot of interesting discussion done.
Is that what you call the infantile shit-flinging over favortie characters and parts/theoretical character vs. other character vomit?
Thatd be the wrong description, I think mine is more accurate.
I enjoy ruining these low quality threads.
They really aren't.
Every thread is like this one, or it's fujoshit. There hasnt been a good Jojo thread since before the start of Paper Moon King in Jojolion.
Gappy > Joseph > Jolyne > Josuke > Johnny > Jonathan > Jotaro > Giorno
Why did he tell her to be quiet if he removed the room's ability to transfer sound? Shouldnt they be able to make as much noise as they want, or at least talk regularly?
I agree. Hamon was sort of like the purported supernatural powers that come from martial arts like that shit members of the Boxer Rebellion claimed they could do like being immune to bullets. It felt more realistic than Stands and the limitations meant it's usage was often creative.
I dont have to try hard in order to lead you faggots by your noses.
>youll get band from 4chan...
God forbid, because we're all attached to this site by an umbilical cord, right?
Thats just you.
So, do you guys have any theories about the new chapter and this new Josefumi fucker.
Everyone seems to think that he's a rockman given the fact he shares the same name as Josefumi, but we only know that name through Kanera. I feel like there's an equal chance that this could've all been setup by her as a way to get Gappy to do her dirty work.
They say Josefumi steals things. What if he "stole" this guy's name? What if this guy is the real Josefumi, who had his name stolen, and renamed himself Tamaki Damo? He's out to get Gappy because half of him stole his identity.
>But what's Josefumi's real name?
No Clue. But it's something starting and ending with J.
Its interesting that when Damo repairs Hato's necklace, theres emphasis when Joshuu says
>you mean he put it back how it was?
Which is the base description for what Crazy Diamond does. It returns things to their original shape.
I'm not sure if any of you care, but here's a DIO pumpkin carved this year for Halloween. It took hours.
I'm more curious to how they're going to get Joshuu out of the fucking drain.
There's no way he's going to die yet, we haven't even seen his stand in action.
Do you think Norisuke will call a plumber?
I imagine he's gonna get into the Sewer by liquifying completely, after Gappy kills this Damo guy he'll solidify and find a way out. Then he'll show back up at the mansion and be like
>WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T ANY OF YOU LOOK FOR ME
then Norisuke'll say
>Sorry we were more focused at the challenge at hand Joshuu
And then Jobin tells him to forget it and does something weird.
>I found the creative ways they used Hamon to be far more interesting.
You mean the way they invented new things Hamon could do? The concept was always vague and limited in scope dude, each personal application of it was barely related to another and Araki was running out of ideas for it.
Its more that hamon allows them to tamper with their blood flow and they lose control of their body. They cant make them say or do anything. They also cant be made to do any kind of intricate task.
You guys seem to like it so here it is in better resolution. The quality is still pretty bad because of how dark it is though.
All of the fights and stands so far have been disappointingly one note, as fun as JoJolion is I think it's a bit overrated when it comes to the hype.
Araki is such a fucker for going on Haitus right when it starts to get good.
Jesus christ, shut the fuck up
I'm not the person that's compiling the /a/ sings video if that's what you're thinking.
Just hearing you sing it would via a Vocaroo post in this thread would be nice.
I got it from google by searching "Funny Valentine jojo reactions"
The fuck is wrong with people when a goddamn image filename can get them upset
Where can I read this in full? I can't seem to find it on Batoto.
>Spaghetti punching will be animated someday soon.
How do you guys handle the wait?
Also, what minor scenes are you guys looking forward to see animated?
>Part 7-8 style Koichi and Josuke
Anything and everything with Killer Queen
I really hope they dont fuck up the art style. Late part 4 looks the best
Only newfags would get their butt frosted over a filename
Would you look at that, favorite Jojo minor "antagonist".
Boy I would shit a bed if he was playable in EoH
But seriously though, he is the only of the three sons that seemed to have Dio's, I don't know, spark. He even had a stand that was time-related. Give the guy the stone mask, and we wuld have had someone literally fucking unbeatable.
>He was eventually defeated and smashed to pieces by Crazy Diamond's fists into a rock. Josuke then restored him and the rock at the same time, fusing them.
Do you think Crazy Diamond would've been able to defuse and restore Gappy into being two people again by just slicing him in half and punching the shit out of at the same time?
I find it pretty fucking weird how Josuke's hair originally was such a prominent characteristic but it was suddenly forgotten and never mentioned again after dealing with Rohan.
I disliked Part 4 because it had shitty support characters and the pacing was shit.
>it had shitty support characters
Josuke had Cream, beta C Moon, and beta Whitesnake as his support
Araki probably didnt want that to be Josuke's only defining characteristic.
But there's no reason it shouldn't have come back in the final battle. Kira is totally the kind of guy who would insult Josuke's hair choice. It goes against everything Kira stands for, it's big, it's boisterous, and it draws unneeded attention
It would have been way cooler if Josuke got super pissed and finished Kira off instead of Jotaro saving the day
Fuck Araki's old style. I don't care how big the characters were, they looked retarded back then. They look like actual human bodies now.
>i prefer dyel faggots over /fit/ manbeasts
Same, although late 7 looks incredible
>It would have been way cooler if Josuke got super pissed and finished Kira off instead of Jotaro saving the day
fucking this, I hated when Jotaro tried to step in and try to finish Kira
, even though Kira's death was...dumb...like really dumb...
What happened to Angelo when Pucci reset the universe? He was technically alive the whole time so he wouldn't have been replaced like Jolyne and Jotaro. Did he stay as a rock?
It's pretty stylized and crazy now, too, just with better proportioned characters.
Did you not remember this scene?
Dude JoJo has always had some level of homo in it.
Look at these damn outfits man
no but this is
Karera is the superior character in my opinion. I used to worry that the main villain being introduced late would mean whoever it is would end up underdeveloped, but I don't think that's likely when Karera can show up out of nowhere and immediately shine so much.
Neither Jotaro or Josuke or Johnny were born with stands.
>you will never snug the Daiya
>Jotaro comes home from long day at Office Depot
>House is strangely silent
>Hears muffled mudas from behind his bedroom door
>Star Platinum ORAs the door down
>Dio is bagnin his wife
Seriously, though, Fragile is such a meh album. Roundabout is the only real stand out song. Long distance is ok, as is Heart of the Sunrise, and all the minor ones like the fish, mood for a day, etc. are all largely shit. I guess America's pretty nice, though I don't think it's on the original album. And South side isn't bad. But yeah, Drama is better, and even then Yes is really not that special.
>I found the creative ways they used Hamon to be far more interesting.
Araki pretty much did all he could do with Hamon by the end of Battle Tendency and Stands get way more interesting after Stardust Crusaders.
Old Joseph already did this for us, to dissatisfying results.
As for "pure" hamon vs "pure" stand, the hamon user can not even see the stand at that point. Some of these stands can move at supersonic speeds in addition to all the other crazy crap. Seems cut and dry, but it really depends on the stand as always.
Would he have won if he wasn't that cautious and just ZAWARUDO'd everyone when they stepped in his castle?
3 has a shit mc but is entertaining
1 is good but too rought compared to 6
5 is garbage
So in what ways can Star Platinum be used? I understand he's fast as fuck but can Jotaru use it like how The Flash uses his superspeed and do all sorts of stuff like speed reading, time travel, etc.
Pre stand JoJonis only better because it doesn't follow monster-of-the-week format.
You'd never get a sequence like Joseph and Caesar training with Lisa Lisa after Part 3, because there's no enemy stand.
I'd love for the last part to re-introduce Hammon to be more effective in some way and for Araki to go back to the manga's earliest roots with nothing but Hammon, vampires, etc.
Would also be nice if the Joestars ended up actually being the final villains for an interesting change of pace.
Would read a comic or manga about.
Phantom Blood and Battle Tendency are better from a story-structure perspective but nothing about Hamon is inherently more interesting than stand abilities. Hell the fights with the Pillar Men were more about thier specific powers than hamon, hamon was more of just a handwave of "this is why I can hurt you with a regular weapon". It was structurally the same as a stand battle already.
I think you are all idiots that preferred parts 1 and 2 for more legit reasons and are just projecting it all on the superpowers.
Johnny is out of the question because SBR
but everyone in the family got their stands after dio did, so now that the powers came through with it, she would have been born with it.
Say, anons, are the volume releases for the manga any good? The hardbound ones? I found Battle Tendency volume 1 near my area and I wanted to know your thoughts on it before I decide if I'm getting it.
Been thinking about getting them myself, considering books and manga are much cheaper here in England I can get them for next to nothing, they look pretty damn nice the hardcovers. I'm just worried about the paper quality and what kind of changes they might make later in the series.
Stands are much more specialized. With the ripple you constantly get characters doing random unrelated things like blocking bullets and making shapes out of water and fortune telling and hypnosis with the only explanation being that it's the ripple.
Incredibly late response but
I understand exactly how King Crimson works. It more or less causes video game frame skips, but in real life. Everyone moves along their predestined path that Epitaph predicted during "erased" time, except Diavolo who can do whatever he wants for 10 seconds. The rules are not 100% consistent tho because Araki thus some confusion on how it works.
This actually winds up giving it almost exactly the same utility as The World, but with a small amount more counterplay (Polnareff's blood trick). Instead of stopping time, the whole universe just blacks out for a moment and is unable to harm Diavolo. He likes to do exactly the same thing as DIO does with his time ability; walk up to defenseless people during stopped, er, ERASED time and punch a hole in them.
I would completely agree with you except that I haven't started part 7 yet.
Another incredibly late reply, but don't call people "fucking morons" when you're the tard who clearly hasn't paid any attention. Shut your mouth if you can't remember the details.
Both Jonathan and Joseph use Hamon to send sparks into people. Several times. A lot. And did you forget that time Caesar mind-controlled a woman followed by Joseph controlling a pigeon with Hamon? Or Lisa Lisa hypnotising Suzie Q? Hamon can mind control. Hamon can do just about anything, like let people stick to walls, jump several stories high, shoot poison right out of your veins, mind control people, turn a Nazi's hair into a floating barrier against bullets, ANYTHING the plot demands. It's bullshit asspulls: The Power, aka The Force.
And yes, Hamon can manipulate objects without the user touching it. Like Joseph with the cactus, the water during the Maria fight and again bullshit like him turning hair into a magical floating bulletproof barrier.
Did you even read... or at least fucking watch JoJo you little retard?
and yet, it's established almost as soon as it gets introduced that it's pretty damn easy for all of the major villains to counter if you just expect having it will let you asspull your way to victory.
I watched Phantom Blood, and it was alright because of the bitchin jojo-dio dynamic. Shakespearean.
I watched Battle Tendency and was really bored with most of it.
Is it worth continuing the series?
Yes, I was always really amused that the villains seem to think that making them unable to breath (puncturing throat/damaging heart) is this big crippling weakness specific to Hamon users. And not just a good way to kill anybody.
But besides that, vampires typically delt with Hamon by just having some strategy to not get hit by it at all. Vampires pretty much die instantly with even a touch of Ripple. Even Pillar Men, who can survive a few minutes in sunlight without turning to stone, fear Hamon. Joseph ends the fight against Esidesi after he finally lands one good hit of Hamon Overdrive on him.
Josuke can't bring people back to life, ya dummy.
It doesn't bring people back to life, it just knocks back time to a point where they haven't died yet, so people in the know can prevent their deaths. You can use either of those stands to prevent someone's death, but it's not bringing them back from the grave because they wouldn't have died in the first place. Point is, there's still no stand that can straight out bring people back from the dead, definitely not as invisible zombies.
Kinda related, but I'm no the only one who likes Limp Bizkit (and most other Part 6 Stands), right?
I mean, invisible zombies how cool is that?
Not quite at all, really.
Say for example we have a man with a gun, and a man he intends to kill with said gun. This is Man A and Man B.
Man A fires the gun at Man B. Say KCs power were to activate here, and it takes just over 10 seconds (somehow) for the bullet to hit man B.
If KCs power were to activate here exactly as the bullet left the barrel, then at the end of the 10 seconds the bullet would hit man B, killing him.
But if KCs power were to be activated 5 seconds in after firing, then the bullet will never actually hit Man B - it will just continue on its trajectory on the other side of Man B as if it had been flying unobstructed the entire time.
This is because the time that it would have hit Man B was "erased" - any events that would have happened just don't in the erased time, and afterward, events continue as they would have before time was erased.
So to sum it up, a bullet is going to be exactly where it would have been after 10 seconds of flight, but anything it would have hit in between is unmolested, because said events -did not happen-.
It actually has a fair bit more utility than Time Stop. It's just fucking stupid and clearly Araki could barely handle it himself.
Good explanation. So King Crimson is mostly a strategical/defensive power?
Some people just can't handle it for some reason, must be the insecurity.
There's nothing wrong with questioning your sexuality, but you don't have to be insecure about it.
Kinda, yes. DIO uses time stop to kill people, while Diavolo primarily uses it to avoid shit that would have hurt him / avoid detection.
This is mostly enabled by epitaph, allowing him to see what parts of the future he wants to "erase".
ASB actually does a pretty okay job of getting it across, with him being mostly counter focused. Also his run animation is the best active example of my explanation, as he skips forward and "erases" the time he would have been hit by projectiles, and they pass right through him.
Anyway, I don't think my explanation is perfect, but I do think it gets the job done, do it might be helpful to cap and keep around.
Do you ever wonder if there is more to life than being really really ridiculously good looking?
Listen anon, I don't want Josuke involved in any raping. He's too pure for that gobshite, he hasn't even gotten a Yasuho yet.
Looks rot over time, having strong charisma is more valuable.
Which means Josuke would receive the Midas touch, and everything CDR DORARARA's would turn into fat wads.
>using those translations
Is your brain a soft cunt, anon?
SCR is sometimes referred to as simply Requiem, anon. Anyway, you're still using the shitty translations.
He has moments where he gets the juices flowing, but he'll never go so far as peeping on his own mother while she bathes. Araki has Gappy getting into lewd charades every chapter to make up for keeping Josuke so sterile.
the pose is kinda slutty, I'm not gay though.
You're lying to yourself. Anyway, that pose establishes him more as having an ass as sweet as Pucci's rather than him being a slut.
Some artist on Pixiv. It's shit trying to find lewd art of the two where Josuke isn't drawn like a twink,
Well actually, SCR's power of switching bodies could have fulfilled Polpol's desire for a better body to replace his own one, only to fail with his soul getting put into a turtle instead of some semen demon like Narancia.
Fuck off, I thought we already did this in the last thread.
Diego x Hot Pants >> fujoshit >> Johnny x Hot Pants
I think the noses were what really bugged me.
>first episode of DiU anime
>aerial view of Morioh
>"Welcome to Morioh-chou! This peaceful Japanese town located in the M prefecture (...)"
>camera starts coming closer to the ground, focusing on a car driving up to a house
>the car stops and a sharply dressed man comes out
>he seems to be helping a woman out of the car
>"What's wrong? Is this your first time? Don't worry, I'm sure we'll have plenty of fun..."
>the camera pans out
>he's holding a disembodied hand
>"Just the two of us..."
>cut to "My name is Koichi Hirose"
>the following story arcs happen exactly like they do in the manga, up until...
>Yoshikage Kira Just Wants a Quiet Life
>"That guy's Yoshikage Kira. You don't want to know him; he's the most boring person there is"
>Kira walks to the park with a bag from the sandwich shop
>he sits down in the park and eats up his sandwich
>"What a beautiful Duwang"
>meanwhile Fatty steals his bag
>"Damn, if anyone finds out..."
>he retrieves the bag like he did originally
>"What are you doing with my sandwich?"
>the bag is torn open
>a woman's hand falls from it
>"Now look at what you've done!"
>Kira erases Fatty like in the manga
>pic related happens somewhere between Fatty's murder and Sheer Heart Attack, to show Kira hasn't changed his habits
How would you react?
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Sono Chi No Kioku: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp5gKFzsWcw
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If you're still around it would be great if you could contribute!
Your not alone OP, Your not alone.
Well, there goes my entire spiel about how effete everyone is in this franchise. All the men are immaculately perfect, and more beautiful than any other women, like the author doesn't know how to make a beautiful woman and makes the men twice as beautiful to compensate.
And also, I was going to make a comment about how you had some incredibly gorgeous guy named hot pants of all god damn things, how homoerotic this entire part is, etc.
So, I guess I just found best girl. Cool.
You can't. I'm still working out the kinks of the subscription payment plan.
Unrelated, but maybe it would be better and more productive if you said anything worthwhile yourself.
>tfw part 4 will be ruined by shit looking hair
Hot Pants could have torn the window sill and insects out her body after using Cream Starter. She also stated that Cream Starter didnt work when she was trying to get them out
so if joseph's mother was adopted, that means he and his descendants have no blood relationship with Jonathan.
How the hell then do they all have the birthmark? it's a thing passed down by blood descendants which is why Dio's children made with Jonathan's body all have it.
>All the men are immaculately perfect, and more beautiful than any other women, like the author doesn't know how to make a beautiful woman and makes the men twice as beautiful to compensate.
I wish I could have seen more action out of Lisa Lisa.
It wasn't as bad as most threads, that's gotta count for something, right?
objectively correct answer right here. assuming they don't cheap out on the animation, this is the single coolest scene in part IV. Killer Queen is going to be cool too, but the whole highway star fight is gold.
>get the complete drop on everyone with ZA WARUDO
>waste it on putting Nukesaku in the coffin
>not punch the shit out of Jotaro and Joseph, the two biggest (and really only) threats.
She was pretty popular meme a couple months ago.
I want to
boilher body with my disc and insert it in her brain.
Alien viruses (virii? viren?)
But anon said it was just because robots are cool. If stands aren't shaped by user then it makes no sense and it is stupid to try to defend it. You can only embrace the absurdity and move on.
>tfw Jonathan lived his whole life knowing Dio had keked his waifu from him many years before
Pretty surprised he didn't kill himself desu
I wouldn't be able to bear living as a loser kek. Maybe that's why he smiled as he died, he was finally free of his curse and took the bastard that keked him with him.
i love this filter /qa/ suggested, its hilarious