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Are there any examples of manga/anime where the "edgy" character is done right? Or do they always turn shit?
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>>124518149
Edgelords are always shit

Former edgelords are always awesome
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I loved this guy.
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>>124518196
This
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Akagi
Devilman
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>>124518149
Pic unrelated
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Pic related.
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>>124518222
Might as well throw this guy in there
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Dr. Edge, at your service!
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Also best girl.
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>>124518447
Roberta's better.
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>>124518149
"Edgy" IS equivalent to being considered shit, what with mememind of /a/.

But "edgy characteristics" are like salt. In moderation it can enhance the taste, but too much and you puke.
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Is Hei seen as edgy?
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Hellsing, Katanagatari and Parasyte.
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Kenpachi from bleach
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His edge is only good with Judar sharpening it.
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>>124518709
For
>>124518307
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Alucard is based as fuck.
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Tetsuo
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>>124518196
>Former edgelords are always awesome
Then explain why Vegeta and Hiei are still shit.
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Kurapika.

Also, does Killua count as "edgy"?
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>>124518581
I've never thought of Guts as edgy.
He's somewhat byronic but for me it never crossed to edgyness or even to anti-hero territory at that.
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>>124518582
He beat kids, so yeah.
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Joe Yubaki
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>>124518582
Is Zwei more edgy than Hei ?
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>>124518933
He was edgy as fuck in the first three volumes until pic related
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>>124518933
Nah, Guts is pretty fucking edgy.
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>>124518914
>done right
killpickle is the worst character and his arc was awful.
>muheyes
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>>124518149
He turned out pretty okay at the end. still edge though.
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>>124518896
>Hiei
>Shit
Shit taste.
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>>124518307
This. His "kill the witch" arc was so fucking entertaining.
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>>124518973
Don't remind me of that shit anime please.
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Munsu
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>>124518149
Killua
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>>124518149
He has every reason.
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>>124519063
>>124518709
I miss Edgebros ;_;
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>>124518860
Kaneda!
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>>124518520
This is exactly the reason I likes Sauce in Part 1, but couldn't stand him in Shippuden.
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>>124519249
Jotaro is an autistic fuck
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If we didn't have edgy characters, all we'd ever get is moe Slice of Life shit.
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>>124519249
This
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>>124519264
Kishi went full retard with Sasuke's character in the Kage Summit arc. He was tolerable before that.
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>>124519229
Kaori!
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>>124519159
To what lenght does the definition of edgyness go?
Can a psychopath even be considered edgy because he inherently lacks empathy anyway?
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>>124519304
This is a good example.
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>>124519407
>Can a psychopath even be considered edgy
Oh yes.
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this handsome faggot right here
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>>124518581
this
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>>124518914
Killua is a cute character with great edgy moments
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>>124519466
I was just gonna post that. Also this.
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>>124519371
Thats as vague as saying without bad theres no good.
Not black and white bruh, you can have an edgy character but you have to do it right, or else it turns out unintentionally fucking hilarious.
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But who is the most edgy anime character?
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>>124519407
>lacks empathy
You mean they're narcissistic assholes?
>too stupid/lazy/put-out to consider others emotions despite usually being motived entirely by rage/loss/revenge
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I think its safe to say that all edgy characters just need to calm the fuck down.
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Is saying Light from Death Note a bad opinion? I know a lot of people from /pol/ would think of him as a good guy trying to cleanse the world, but he is still a pretty darn evil bastard
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>>124519503
How do you do an edgy character "right", though? I get that it's about moderation, but what are the traits that separate good edgelords from bad ones?
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>>124519656
Just look at Sasuke, then look at Hakuryuu.

Sasuke is how NOT to do an edgy character, whereas Hakuryuu is one of the best around.
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>>124519537
I'm sure there's some obscure shitfest out there with the edgiest mc you've ever seen.
I'm not going to go digging through the trash heap for it.
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>>124519646
The people who think he was still heroic by the end of the series are the edgy ones
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>>124518581
I actually like current guts more than edgelord guts in the first few volumes, he was trying way to hard to not care for everything and it soon became boring.
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>>124519646
Whether you agree with the character's opinions or not is inconsequential here.
Light is most definitely edgy.
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>>124519646
He only crosses into evil territory when he starts killing those who are sent to stop him.
If he could have just cut that shit out for a while and picked it up later after he graduated, he could easily have gotten away with cleansing the wicked in his free time on an irregular basis.
He got greedy.
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>>124519537
Geist
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>>124519704
He didn't target nearly enough politicians to be the hero we need.
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>>124519750
don't know dude, I really think that ethically, on every aspect, Light was on the wrong. Sure, he saved some lives, but he also took many more
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>>124519699
What? Hakuryuu is almost just as bad as Sasuke. They both accomplished their missions, and still decided to keep being edgy anyway.
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>>124519864
Are you retarded? He's always wanted to kill Kouen.
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>>124519444
translation never
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>>124519845
Once he started killing criminals from actual shit countries, like the U.S., I think he was doing some serious good.
He should have simply transcribed the names of our entire top tier of government and those who help run the parties and he'd have done us and the rest of the world a massive good.
Short sighted.
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>>124519933
Which is dumb as fuck. Gyokuen was the Empress of Kou and he killed her. He then took her place as Emperor. He took back what he thought was his. All Kouen is, is a general.

Then, because he's an idiot, he decides to try and fight a fellow Metal Vessel user even after being informed that it will only serve his enemies to do so.
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Once you step outside of TV anime shounen jump adoptions you find everything improves.

The best action anime has overwhelmingly been OVAs and movies.

This is true even for the writing. Genocyber managed to be a hundred thousand times darker than any shounen jump anime ever (indeed it's the most violent anime ever made) and it still managed to become revenge killing seem awesome.
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>>124519656
>>124519635
This^
Basically, edgy characters are characters who live literally "on edge", meaning, they see the world as black/white in the most extreme way mostly due to a bad past.
So you take a character like that and and make it go through the story while interacting with the MC or doing whatever, and you expect said character to have some kind of development throughout the story.
When they have no development whatsoever and just remain in their own little edgy world without ever being influenced by others and eventually calm the fuck down, it gets tiresome, repetitive and unconvincing, and that character eventually ends up being annoying.
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>>124519959
This is a very political opinion, which discards human life. It's like saying that you agree with the death penalty. Now, coming from a country that has banned executions in the 70's I have to say that I am really against it, thus making Light bad in my eyes even when killing criminals. Furthermore, killing world leaders and or corrupted politicians is not exactly something that would work. Most of those guys are controlled by others, mainly by international companies and the biggest majority of them are well hidden in the shadows. Still though, that would be taking lives and taking lives means murder in my eyes
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>>124519710
He's a psycho but most definitely not edgy
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>>124518896
>Vegeta
>Shit
Y-you take that back!
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>>124518307
And he have good reasons too, I fucking hate the moralfags duo.
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Best edgy
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>>124520226
>where do you live
>on the edge
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>>124519249
Jotaro isn't edgy. He's just very calm and calculated

>>124519453
I've always liked their rivalry because despite how bloody violent their fights get it looks like they're doing it more for fun.
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>>124518149

Hiei was kinda edgy for valid reasons, but he turned out to be a pretty cool guy in the end.
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>>124520226
Ok I actually laughed
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>>124520260
>>124520226

I kekd so hard
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>>124520142
How is playing with and taking lives because of a god complex not edgy?
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I'm not sure, does Bakugou count as "edgy"?
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>>124520129
You said it yourself, the system is rigged and most of the people playing face man are part of the puppet show.
The fact that they can be part of the puppet show and not try to expose it confirms that they deserve it.
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>>124520191
See
>>124520032
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Contemplate it.

This was the most dynamic, entertaining fucker in the whole show.
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>>124518383
nice get and nice choice, sir.
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>>124520325
No. Todoroki is more edgy than him.
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>>124520374
He was also rather smooth.
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>>124520361
>The fact that they can be part of the puppet show and not try to expose it confirms that they deserve it.
So you are saying that people having different morals and ethics than you deserve to die?

You my friend are the edgiest of them all
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>>124520277
The only good thing in Hellsing concerning plot.
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>>124520325

He's Kyo
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>>124518149
I'll commit /a/ heresy by going west and say Zuko. He had edge, but he had honor and empathy.
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>>124520460
Wasn't that an act? Fairy Tail keeps bringing up new plot points, only to drop them again two chapters later.
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>>124520578
Yeah Fairy Tail is horribly written.
Which isn't a surprise since they like to dump two chapters every week.
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>>124520470
That's literally how ethics work.
Those who justify death in any way do is subjectively, logic or not, it is still subjective.
I think you're missing the basic premise.
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>>124518149
His arc was short, didn't distract the MC too much, and after he saw the error of his ways, he immediately turned good and started helping out.
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What about our good old Yuno?
She is pretty edgy. Pulling some crazy shit just to spent a bit more time with the boy she loved.

I'm not saying she was right, but she definitely did what she did in the name of love
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>>124519499
but Kamui isn't edgy
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>>124520689
Yuno did nothing wrong.

but yeah she had quite some edgy moments
>get away from my boyfriend you dirty slut etc
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>>124519646
I like Lelouch better, he actually made the world a better place in the end. The CG universe and the Death Note universe are very different when it comes to evil/awful people, but still.
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>>124518149
One Piece's Mihawk is done pretty well. Fights with a thing called Blacksword and uses a boat that looks like a coffin, but ist still fine with drinking some booze with an old friend.
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>>124520578
Yeah, he was just faking it. Still, he did edgy better in 3 chapters than Jellal has in the entire series.
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>>124518149
Teaming up with yesterday's enemy to smash fate!
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>>124520780
>Mihawk
>edgy
Ok, so now wearing something black and being serious make you edgy. I'm done.
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>>124520646
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>>124519761
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>>124518222
>His arc will never get animated
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>Good edgy characters
>No Ladd
You disappoint me, /a//
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>>124520646
No I don't. Every type of opinion is subjectively formulated and formed. That especially counts for the edgy characters of every manga/anime. The vast majority of them consider what they do justified, because of subjective thinking. What makes them edgy is the subjective opinion of the majority which happens to be different by our edgy hero.

The only true edgy character in anything ever would have to be the Joker, in my opinion, but this is an anime board, so he does not exactly belong here
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>>124520835
This is like one of the best edgy characters ever
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>>124520875
I remember reading some short plot synopsis that it was about a guy that brutally murders people in some sci-fi post apocalyptic world and it's not as awesome as it sounds, at all.
I ignored that and watched it and it was one of the longest 45 minutes in my entire life so dull it was.
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>>124519646
I don't get why people would root for him, in the very beginning he killed an innocent man out of rage (the bait L put on TV).
That manifested he was just an egomaniac way early.
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>>124521121
i thought it was pretty funny
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>>124520850
Clever.
Do you agree with the concept of revolution?
Do you agree with the waging of past wars?
In a perfect world, everyone would die peacefully in their sleep from old age.
There is no such thing as a perfect world.
To say that death is more justified when enough people agree or when the ones doing it are doing it because those above them said it was just does not make it more or less just than an individual making such a value judgment.
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>>124519249
Jotaro is just autistic

And stardust crusaders is like 3rd worst jojo
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>>124520775
I am not so sure... did she not commit into a way of life that dictated her to kill shitloads of people (and in the end her loved one), just to spend some more time with him? If that is not edgy then I don't know what is

>>124520779
I actually think that Lelouch was not THAT edgy. He definitely had his moments of making people commit suicide, but that was in a war for power and redemption.
So I guess he is justified? I don't even know myself. he just feels kinda more composed then anyone and he doesn't go all out killing best friends and children
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>>124521213
Wasn't really on-topic there, just said that I liked Lelouch more since he and Light are often compared.
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>>124519304
He still counts as formerly edgy though.
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>>124518149
Done right.
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>>124521157
Not so innocent. If I remember correctly that guy was a criminal with a death penalty. Nevertheless, i see your point. Personally I am against him and his megalomania makes him very annoying to my eyes :/
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>>124521016
So what you have to consider is what is more valuable?
Your individual ethical value, or meta ethics of the majority.
People often waffle back and forth depending on the situation and how it is presented.
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>>124521244
Yeah but that's the point, this thread is "edgy done right".
Thorfinn is edgy as a teenager but he's not full on crawling-in-my-skin mode.
He's young, reckless and stupid while driven by revenge. And then he grows up.
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>>124521243
Oh! Sorry about that :/ Yeah, still though, both were master manipulators, but it seemed like Lelouch was a bit more justified that Light. Lelouch even had the past to give him reasons. Light was just operating on a false ethical system. I prefer Lelouch too
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>>124521213
you can kill loads and loads of people without being edgy at all. she dindu nuffin wrung because muh universe. been a while since I watched, but I think I remember
>universe/god shits the bed
>ohshit ohshit ohshit
>can't into Yukki because fuck all
>no prob, new universe, kill other self and parents, kill kill kill, rinse and repeat
>just to spend time with Yukki

edge is all about attitude. being so, Yuno had quite some edgy moments, if not her overall self was plain edgy. it's not like she was into the whole mess because "oh boy I love causing suffering and seeing people die". that'd be edgy. she was more like a psycho, barely realizing what she did was... crude? whatever.


c18 on the other hand...
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>>124519249
At least choose Polnareff over Jotaro, he had that whole "revenge" thing that for once actually ended with him succeeding while not ruining completely everything.
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>>124520460
The only character I can even tolerate in that series.
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>>124521608
>reading Fairy Tail for anything other than tits/butts
?
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>>124518149
Scar from Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood (or the manga, if you want).
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>>124521361
>>124521473

Actually right now I need a definition on edgy. What makes a character edgy? Is it his ethical standings, or the absence of them? Is a character that kills people for no reason edgier than the one with reason or not? I don't know man, I feel confused...
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>>124521473
What makes c18 edgy?
In the manga she always seemed like a robot with a mission. She did not exactly wreck havoc wherever she went just for the fuck of it.
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>>124521677
>character doesn't act like a retarded genki all the time
>it means he/she is edgy
Pretty simple.
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>>124521643
>Having nice tits and ass = good character
I fap to Erza and Lucy, but they're still horrible.
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He went through a lot of shit.
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>>124521677
It's hard to go around that term because the way it is used e.g. in this thread is different than what the actual lexical definition of "edgy" is.
Basically edgy as 4chan tends to use it hasn't even been officially defined.
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>>124520622
>Implyingthatdidntstarttillonlylikeaweekagoandisonlytemporaryforaboutamonthandanonisjusttryingtogetsomehatepointsonfairytailtotrytofitinwiththerestoftheboardsbandwagonhateonfairytail
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>>124521770
That covers quite a lot of characters that I don't consider edgy. Fucking Gintama is edgy by these standards
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>>124519001
Hes pretending to be edgy
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>>124521866
>thinking anyone is actually going to read all of that shit
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>>124521608
Why him?
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>>124521898
It's more like
>character doesn't act like a retarded genki all the time
>I also dislike this character
>it means he/she is edgy
If you like Gintama he is not edgy.
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>>124521864
Should we try and define it? Having a debate on a matter without knowing the meaning of the subject is just stupid. We should totally start a board that will define what and edgy anime character is.
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Hero of justice, anyone?
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>Faggots saying Hakuryuu is the best edgy character in magi
>Not based Sinbad
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>>124518149
That really depends on what you mean as ''edgy''.
If you mean a character with little or no morals who can use really questionable means to achieve his/her goals and even enjoy it, being a bit of a sadist, then yes, numerous.
If you mean "crawling in my skin, these wounds won't heal" types who feel betrayed/hurt and have a tragic past that "no one can understand/relate to" so they isolate themselves or need to take revenge on the world because "muh pain", then no, these types are always shit.
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>>124522056
How did such a cool cat raise a faggot like Shirou?
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>>124518149
this thread isn't going to go anywhere because most of /a/ is retarded and do not understand basic emotions

Edgy is the character that turns full 'the ends justify the means' and will kill any former friends to accomplish their goals

but /a/ will label someone who is just mad or wants revenge as THE EDGE
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>>124521989
Still very wide. Some characters i dislike and are not genki I can't call edgy. Quite a lot of anime and manga have these quite characters that seem to always be depressed, and I totally hate those guys. Plus I totally prefer edgy characters. I like them because they make a more interesting story.
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The truest and edgiest characters of them all
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I think a good edgy character needs to retain some basis of morality in their personality. Something in-between outright evil and good guy moralfagging, but the only truly questionable thing about them is the methods they use in accomplishing their goal. The goal itself should be something that isn't easy for the MC to argue against.
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>>124522508
What left from "edgy" in this character? Evil =/= edgy despite what /a/ can tell you.
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>>124521986
Because he's the only MC who hasn't pissed me off yet.
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>>124519249
Jotaro wants to be edgy but his mom won't let him.jpeg
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Neighbors are dicks.
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>>124518581

The word has truly lost its meaning when you call someone like guts edgy, especially considering what he went through.
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>>124523161
How is what he went through relevant? Scratch that, the Eclipse is all the more reason for that character to be edgy.
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>>124523161
this
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>>124520988

Yeah Ladd is a good one. The thing I hate about edgy characters is that you can see the incoming character development from a mile away, I'd rather have genuinely psychotic motherfucker running around tearing shit up just for the hell of it than some guy who had a bad day and takes it out on the world
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>>124518973
Sometimes he is, sometimes he isn't.
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>>124520988
I never saw Ladd as edgy, more of a spoiled psychopath with autism
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>>124518149
Tekkamen Blade was pretty edgy
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>>124519466
>>124519499
Meh, both of them only show up once every 50 episodes. Takasugi barely do anything aside for saying that he will destroy everything, while Kamui's only characterization is that he likes to fight.
I'm still mad that they are more popular than characters like Kondo or Madao.
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>>124518307
EDGEBROS FOR LYFE
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>>124523480
The thing about 'psychotics' is unless they have a genuine physiological brain issue (which does not account for many), then they are the way they are because of life experience, the way they have learned to reason and how perceive the world.
When someone has been swept far enough in a given direction, it can be almost impossible to bring them back to center.
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>>124519174
>muh fake family
>muh retarded team
>I-I don't wanna get muh memories back
He's just a fucking pussy.
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>>124518149
Easy
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>>124523697
Pic related is Kaneki when he took over anon.
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Edgy done right, you say?
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Literally king of edge.
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>>124522085
Sinbad is not edgy, he is willing to do anything to protect what he values, just like any normal person.
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>>124520374
I thought only fujoshit fangirls worshipped this cock.

I was far from impressed.
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>>124520313
Because it's not. I'm not even the guy you're responding to, and I think you're blowing things way out of proportion. Light, with all his failings, is portrayed fairly. We understand from the getgo he's a fucking psychopath. He's entertaining as fuck, watching him succeed AND watching him fail. You're not supposed to identify with him and support his cause, even if you are rooting for the guy. If anything you're supposed to root for the people trying to stop him. It'd only be edgy if the narrative was explicitly telling us, "Light is correct! And all these people deserve what they got!!!" But it's not.

I'll say it again, we understand from jump street Light. Is fucking. Crazy.
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>>124521587
polnareff joked around to much to ever really be considered an edgelord
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>>124523989
>He hasn't read the latest chapter of Sinbad no Bouken
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>>124524045
I like him more than most.
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>>124522146
I would say you could lable a character edgy by the whole ends justify the means or kills his friends definition. Id say it comes more down to how complete a character is written. a one track one emotion character is where I feel you start getting into edge. like brooding and killing is labled edge the same way as light slice of life characters are labled moe
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>>124524716
Also, the 'taking perverse pleasure' in being wicked or smiting your enemies is pretty fucking edge.
I've been in fights and had stupid issues with people, even when they get what's coming to them I don't actually take pleasure in it. If anything I feel even more shit that they got themselves fucked.
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Thorfinn from Vinland Saga.

You know it's true.
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>>124524303

>Light. Is fucking. Crazy.

I think that's just what people want to believe, I brought this up before but light is no different than a nation with a army using might to enforce its ideas. Sanity is a privilege only people who have someone 'crazy' to do the killing for them can enjoy.
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>>124525113
He was borderline psychopathic by the end.
You can make an argument he was doing it for "justice" at the beginning but come the fuck on.
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>>124518149
>are there any anime where the shit character is not shit?
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>>124525450
He was being relentless pursued.
At first he had no enemies and he could focus on a moral crusade, but once they sought him out to stop his crusade, they became the enemy.
When you're being pursued you lose the greater perspective.
This is why people think to fight or flee when confronted by authority.
If it seeks to take away your freedom or stop your endeavor, no matter the reason, it becomes your personal enemy.
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>>124518149
>>124518196
Fucking this. It's why Eren Jaeger from SnK is such an annoying faggot to this day and why Yuichiro Hyakuya from Owari no Seraph became pretty likable after he chilled the fuck out.
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>>124519646
Light's not edgy. He's an evil sociopath.
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>>124520325
Give him some more time.
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>>124526552
And evil sociopaths are edgy.
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>>124520785

I don't know I would call Black Beard Edgy, I mean he has every single thing you call someone edgy for, but his demeanor and the way he presents himself is far from Edgy. He is highly charismatic, strong believer in destiny, extremely loyal to his crew.
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>>124518149
Shieldbro might fit the bill
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>>124524439

>When Sinbad literally does nothing?
Or
>When Sinbad completely blows away two metal vessels?

Because that's just being a dick.
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This guy was so edgy he got vash the fucking stampede to kill him, and vash would rather get on his knees and act like a dog while his enemies pissed on him than kill.
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Literally cancer thread.
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>>124529363
>Vegeta
>Badass
Ayyy
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>>124529363
Where would Truza be on the edge-o-meter?
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>>124518510
Roberta is too excessive. Revy is more balanced.
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>>124529493

Say what you want but vegeta has always been an immensely powerful fighter, even as a kid he could beat like 90% of anime protags, he just has the misfortune of siding with goku who has beef with the craziest motherfuckers in the galaxy.
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>>124518307
Fuck, you spoiled it for me.
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>>124523911
maybe...
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>>124524940
>I've been in fights.

What a badass.
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>>124529180

I almost forgot about that
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>>124522136
110/10 my sides have left the Universe.

Kerry failed at damn near everything save for Iri and Ilya and he lost them due to him going maxium overedge with his assblastedly retarded dream.

I'm stunned Shirou didnt end up even more fucked up than he did with an assclown like Kerry raising him.
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>>124520226
Being fair, Punisher 2099 was a satire, but godammit if he wasnt cool.
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Any random character in AgK. And this guy of course.
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>>124530948
Man, Onani Master was such a good read.
The transition to a serious plot was so seamless.
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>>124526495
>Edgelords are always shit
>Former edgelords are always awesome
>It's why Eren Jaeger from SnK is such an annoying faggot to this day
Haven't read the latest chapters, huh?
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>>124518149

There's one airing right now.
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Sometimes edgelord is necessary evil.
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>>124518149
you gotta heal them
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>>124530948
>Any random character in AgK.
Nevermind, none of those are good. Maybe if Esdeath was in a better series.
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>>124531531
Holy shit someone else who remembers Houshin Engi!
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>>124518149
>Are there any examples of manga/anime where the "edgy" character is done right?

Yes.
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>>124520078
>they see the world as black/white in the most extreme way

That's the best way to see the world though. Attempts to introduce shades of grey into the picture strike me as half-baked obfuscations and distractions. These days, everybody harps on about there being nuances and subtleties that need to be considered which cannot be easily divided into categories of good and evil. But one simply needs a word to describe the vermin of this world and "evil" this is the best negative superlative that we possess.
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>>124531907
>>124531531
Oh god I love Houshin Engi
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Egdy: At the forefront of a trend.

The trend in this case is "darkness"-attitude. If a character expresses the "dark attitude" trait to the avant garde, where they are attempting to be uniquely or extremely "dark attitude", then that character is "edgy". They are forefronting what it means to have a "dark attitude and personality".
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>>124532219
By this logic, anything "off-white" can be categorized and dealt with as evil. The black/white dichotomy is only useful for reducing cognitive effort. It doesn't produce the most accurate models of reality nor produce a high rate of ethical/moral decisions.
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Akagi is the only one I can think of.
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>>124520277
>>124521178
>>124521587
>>124522732
Jotaro is edgy. It the traditional sense of the word, like sonic .
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whats worse an edge lord or a moralfag
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>>124533586
Moralfag. Edgelord can be at least entertaining.
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>>124533586
Moralfag. An edgelord will act retarded in one or two posts. A moralfag will try and get in arguments with every poster over their gripe and 99% can not be reasoned with.
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>>124533586

I think both extremes are terrible, I hate moralfags who preach every 5 seconds about how killing is bad and are conveniently written to never have to get there hands dirty, and I hate edges who act like dicks because they had a rough childhood or some shit.

Characters like Guts and Kenshiro are perfect because they don't glorify death and killing but will fuck a nigga up in a heartbeat!
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>>124533713

We're talking about anime characters.
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>>124533586
>>124533824
Edgelord definitely. It's just awkward and/or stupid.
A hammy character is a different matter though.
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