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If there's a HGW in America and I summon Obama as my Servant...

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If there's a HGW in America and I summon Obama as my Servant... what's his Noble Phantasm?
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He uses the power of the pen.
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He takes away the rights and freedoms of hard working Americans.
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>>124047682
>Obama
You're just asking for /pol/.
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>>124047682
Drone strikes
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>>124047682
>Obama as my Servant
>not our future president Marco Rubio
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Absolutely nothing. You summoned a shitty modern "hero" with no powers or skills. He dies in the first battle he gets into.
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Obamacare
All enemy servants must pay a tax in mana so he can heal himself or his master
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>>124047682
There's no way at all Obama, or any president newer than FDR at the absolute latest (more realistically, Teddie) could qualify as a Heroic Spirit.

If you want a President, you're probably best off with Washington.
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MODS KILL THIS THREAD NOW BEFORE /pol/ GETS IN!
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>>124048608
They must also pay this tax whether or not they heal themselves or their master.
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>>124048749
I don't see why people bitch about paying taxes to fund Obamacare but have no problem paying taxes to fund the NSA spying on them.
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Anti-Army Noble Phantasm: Yes We Can
Rank: A

Obama transcends the limits of race and political expertise to ascend to presidency and acquire the throne. This causes a maelstrom of destruction in a nearby area that is the shape of the United States but scaled down to the approximate size of a small town. Unblockable.
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Man Obama is a cool guy. He is the best president that we have ever had.
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>>124047682
Seeing as he is black it would probably be something cuck related.
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>>124048713
Hes got one of those quazi dimensions like UBW where he teleports everyone to Detroit and an army of youths attack them
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>>124048821
Because NSA spy programs didn't make my insurance rates double
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>>124048910
I am the nig of my nog
Malt is my blood and crack is my breath
I have cashed over 1000 welfare checks
And fathered a dozen bastards
Who will never know Im their father
As I did nuffin.
Unlimited chimpworks!

Unlimited cuckworks
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So, what do you guys think of Hillary?
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>>124049187
Worst of the Obama lackies with a pretty good chance of ousting Jimmy Carter as the worst president since LBJ.
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>>124049187
He was the first to climb Mount Everest but he lived in New Zealand and so isn't qualified to be the usa president. One requirement is that the usa president be born on american soil.
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>>124049187
BENGHAZI
PERSONAL EMAILS

She will never run.
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>>124049280
You rightfags are so mad, can't wait for 8 more years of your tears.
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>>124049280
>Worst President since [anyone other than Harding]
>Not Dubya
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>>124048703
>Forgetting ol' Ronnie Reagan
Tearing down the Berlin Wall with your bare hands has to translate into one hell of a noble phantasm. And constructing a space laser system to destroy the evil empire.
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Saber has such pretty fingernails
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>>124049349
Longest continuous economic growth in American history and the highest approval rating.

Much better than the most dishonest one since Nixon.
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>>124049280
>>124049337
How would you guys feel if by some reason she ends up winning and you are now living in a country full of feminism.
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>>124049187
She is a women so I assume she is utterly incompetent.
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>>124049347
there's no place for you libfags here
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>>124049432
As long as I have my computer and the ability to use a VPN I really don't care. I live in a good enough neighborhood I wouldn't see the worst of it.
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>>124049347
Considering how badly the Dems lost their asses in the midterms, it's going to take a bit more than liberal white guilt to get another Dem in the office.

>>124049432
I'd be quite thankful for checks and balances, along with the First Laddie likely still being a womanizer.
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Reminder 90% of Government changes in your life are LOCAL. Get out and vote.
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>>124049337
She is running you dunce. The people who'll vote her in don't give a shit, she's on the blue team, that makes her one of the good guys.
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>>124048593
Yeah, but in the Fate universe, you got Cu Chulainn and girl King Arthur, people who are not known for having super human abilites, fighting like they are fucking DMC charaters, moving at sonic fast speeds and jumping and whizzing through the air, so if Obama or any similar historical figure got to be participants in the Holy Grail War, I'm sure Nasu would do what he could to make them into DBZ characters for no reason
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>>124049444
>>124049481
I'll see you guys in the elections.
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>>124049481
Every single President in the last forty years without exception loses seats for their party in the midterm elections.
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>>124048703

Go with Lincoln. That guy has legend behind him, and gets to use a broadsword and a poleaxe.
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>>124049513
You fucking kidding me mate? We need war to move the god dam economy if she wins we will be utterly fucked.
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>>124049513
The only way I don't see her getting the death penalty for high treason is playing the system until she becomes president and immunizes herself.
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>>124049481

Then you learn that turnout was under 40% total.

More people didn't bother to vote than voted.

I'd rather not take that as a win.
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>not summoning Marco Rubio instead
>not having a Hispanic president
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>sakurafish gets banned
>you're waifu's face when confess guy gets banned
>this thread where nobody is discussing anything even tangentially related to anime is allowed
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>>124049515
>Cu Chulainn
>people who are not known for having super human
I mean, I can kind of understand Arthur, given that a lot of his legends focus on his knights, but Cu is depicted as superhuman quite a bit.
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>>124049637
>sakurafish gets banned
When the hell did that happen?
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>>124049637
Welcome to 4chins 2015, also who is this moot I keep hearing about?
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>>124049544
And how many of those managed to make them back? Clinton started losing seats and it took until 2006 for his party to retake the majority.

>>124049594
Voter turnout in the US has historically been fairly low. Gerrymandering by both parties for decades has made voting in most places pointless since the electoral college is all-or-nothing for each state. The Dems blocked a proposal to change it to a district by district basis, by the way.
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>>124049637
>sakurafish gets banned
N-no. ;_;
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>>124047682
Obamacare
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>>124049699
What is a mot?
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>>124049515

Cuchulainn is known for wildly superhuman feats.
King Arthur was generally above human for his ability to slay many, many men in battle. He was also able to contend with a swordsman while unarmed, which is more than most can say.
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>>124049637
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>>124049600
I share his background and I don't want him to win, he is an idiot for going this early.
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>>124049515
>I'm sure Nasu would do what he could to make them into DBZ characters for no reason

Humans just used to all be stronger, this is a thing in Nasuverse. Older you go back the stronger they were individually, especially when pumped up by legends.

When you try to get a modern servant you don't get DBZ, you get this.

You're already foolish saying "King Arthur and Cu didn't do anything super human, Nasu just does this shit".
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>>124049637
>sakurafish gets banned
I was starting to like it, now I will hate it forever.
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>>124049749
>posting shitty memes that no one remembers
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>>124049562
>war is good for the economy
http://economics.about.com/od/warandtheeconomy/a/warsandeconomy.htm
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>>124047682
Block pipelines.
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>>124049637
And behold a black horse. And him that sat thereon had a pair of scales in his hand...
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I love this guy.
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>>124049513
You know I wish we had a modern Ronald Reagan.
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>>124049280
>Carter
>bad
Nice meme
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>>124049987
I agree, we need a president who just says "fuck science, I want satellites that shoot lasers, and I will dump however much money it takes"
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>>124049996
I'm sure we all want those years of stagflation back.
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Hitler would've been a great president.
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>>124049870
Canadian?
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>>124049515
>Cu Chulainn
>not known for having super human abilites
YOU MEAN THE MOTHERFUCKER WHO JUMPED CLEAR OVER A CASTE WALL?
THE SAME MOTHERFUCKER WHO PICKED UP A CHARIOT AND BEAT ANOTHER MOTHERFUCKER TO DEATH WITH IT?

King Arthur I'll give you though.
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Obama is no better than Bush. Honestly, he is a criminal that should be locked away.
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>>124050341
Yeah because that was all him. Just ignore the fact that was a diplomatic genius. If Kim IL Sung didn't die, Carter would have reunified Korea.
You know who deregulated the airline and railroad industries? Carter.
Ford was far worse.
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>>124049515
You know the Welsh version of Arthur was a god, right?
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>>124050723
Do tell anon.
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>>124048713
>>124050390
You had one job, mods.
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>>124050715
You know who opened diplomatic relations with China and ended the Vietnam War with a peace treaty? Nixon, remembered now as a great liar because he had one reporter's phone bugged.

Carter did most of his diplomatic work after he left office, though none of it has resulted in much since the crazies took over in the Gaza Strip.
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Change.
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>>124050723
Explain further.
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>>124050937
Yes, if Nixon didn't break the law he'd be considered great.
I still believe Carter is the most underrated presidency of the 20th century. Especially with how he handled the Three Mile Island incident.
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This thread is dumb.
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>>124051106
Well Russia is actually a good place ilya.
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>>124051069
There wasn't much to handle. A reactor had a partial meltdown, the failsafes did what they were supposed to do, the equivalent to an x-ray's worth of radiation for released.

Carter did very little of significance during his time
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>>124051106
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Name: ObamaCare
Type: Anti-Army
Rank: E~EX (Depending on eligibility)
Obama's Noble Phantasm is a reality marble in which all beings with a 100 meter radius are trapped within a confusing and buggy website until the affect persons give up and decide that going uninsured is easier than having to deal with this shit.
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His power is CHANGE
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>>124047682
He'll get rekt by Assassin on the 1st day
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>>124049637
Complain on /qa/. I've seen the blue palm tree man post there a couple of times, he might see it.
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>>124049337
Can someone explain to me Benghazi? My grandfather whines about it all the time HILARY LIED BENGHAZI DIED. Like, it was just four people right? What's the big deal?
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>>124049637
OP has a proxy, he'll just get around it
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>>124047682
>>>/sp/
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>>124051987
Four people dying is actually kind of a big deal outside 4chan, you know.

I honestly don't know a whole lot about it. I think the government was informed the embassy in Benghazi was under attack and they just didn't send any help over whatsoever, and then tried to hide it somehow.
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>>124047682
Why not summon Wild Bill, Billy the Kid or Andrew Jackson? Hell, summon John D. Rockefeller
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>>124052477
Pecos Bill, Fake Rider.
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>>124048703

What if Obama made a contract with Gaia becoming, becoming Counter-Guardian?

You'd could totally summon him
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Reagan phantasm:
Union Buster

Nobody ever gets their wish anymore. The grail wouldn't work even if it wasn't busted. Also, the attack dazes the target long enough for him to punch the Master in the dick.
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>>124047682
>Not the most heroic president America has ever had with his Great White Fleet and Rough Rider Phantasms.
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>>124049805

Explain Archer, then. He's from the future and can go toe-to-toe with Big Cu.
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>>124052807

His Holy Grail wish is for America to prosper forever.
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>>124052807
>Andrew Jackson as Archer
>Theodore Roosevelt as Rider

I'd watch that duel.
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>>124052807
>>124053199
>>124053562
Genderbend them and you have Nasu's next heroic spirit concepts
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>>124049805
Jack the Ripper
Francis Drake
Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde

Don't use a Caster as an example.
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>>124053562
>Not Berserker Jackson
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>>124053112

He's a faker. Downloads the skills and statistics of his betters with cheating magic.

>>124053693

Jack's a wraith and inferior to heroes in combat.
Francis Drake was from the 1500s.
Mr. Hyde is some sort of magical superbeast.
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What would happen if Shirou summoned the heroic spirit James Franco?
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>>124053791
Li Shuwen
Elizabeth Bathory
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>>124053762
Jackson would be an archer
His NP would be "I needed more time"
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What is Obama's class?
Berserker?
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>>124053791
Apocrypha Jack isn't a wraith, wot
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>>124053870
>Li Shuwen
The most ill-fitting hero, timeline wise. I imagine it's just Nasu being a bajiquan fan, so bullshit Qi powers.
>Elizabeth Bathory
1500s, also Dragonblood.

>>124053931
She's an amalgam of wraiths, actually. All the orphans of London or something.
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>>124052554
It's Alaya's Counter Force that uses Guardians you stupid fuck.

Besides, if he really was a Counter Guardian he would have been able to give us that change he promised.
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>>124053920
Assassin would be better
Doesn't accomplish anything through the whole war
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>>124053970
>I imagine it's just Nasu being a bajiquan fan,
Between him, Miyako, Rin, and Kotomine, I think that's a fair assumption.
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>>124053618
>>124052477
That might be a fun concept: American historical figures come back as genderbent versions to fight a holy grail war in America:

Washington as Saber
Patton as Lancer
Andrew Jackson as Archer
Theodore Roosevelt as Rider
Reagan as Caster
Lee Harvey Oswald as Assassin
Ulysses S Grant as Berserker

>>124049432
/int/ would have a field day when America elects it first, real Americuck as president.
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>>124054157
>Not Tesla as Caster
>Loudly insisting that he's using the power of SCIENCE as he rains lightning bolts and earthquakes on his enemies.
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>>124049515
>Cu Chulainn
>The guy who kills thousands of soldiers every day
>Without resting
>No super human abilities
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Trying to write a DnD HGW scenario. The players write their own mages (within reason/stat sheets), but I write the heroes and the only way they can influence summoning is heritage, personality, and selection of vague artifacts. If someone's gaming the system I can fuck them over, but I digress.

I'm struggling with ideas for a female Lancer. I've considered Fa Mulan and valkyries so far, but neither feels quite right. I need suggestions.
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>>124054224
>Tesla
>All the Serbs and Croats
Might be cool
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>>124047682
he got big dick go wham
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>>124054308
Here's my advice: don't use D&D. I'm on hiatus from a HGW campaign that's been working pretty well using Mutants and Masterminds.
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>>124047682
Health Care
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>>124054308
Hmm, alrighty. I'll look into it. Players only really had control over the masters in yours, yeah? I'm trying to make command spells actually necessary.
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>>124047682
His NP is NP - the Nobel Prize, zero mana cost.
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>>124053791

Kanshou and Bakuya weren't wielded by anyone noteworthy, were they? Their legend was in their making, and that's why Archer favored them. Therefore, the skill he was using them with was his own, and the skill Shirou had with them during, say, Sparks Liner High came from Archer's arm.
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>>124054435
whoops this was meant to reply to
>>124054365
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>>124047682
What about this guy Mehmed the conqueror vs Vlad the impaler?
Would be helluva fight
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>>124054435
>>124054489
Yeah. All the players' Servants get along with their Masters fairly well, though, so the Command Seals have basically just acted like bonus fate points that don't replenish.

Try making a thread about ideas for Servants on /tg/ instead of here. FSN threads tend to turn out well on /tg/.
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>>124048703
What if you could summon the embodiment of the US Presidency the same way you can summon the embodiment of fairy tales or the embodiment of dead Victorian orphans?
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>>124054706
You might get a situation like EMIYA becoming No Name in the Moon Cell and get an amalgam of Washington and Lincoln or something.
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>>124051987
Political cover up, that's all.

>it wasn't our fault, it's the Muhammad movie!
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>>124054479

It's unclear.
With only those, though, he's a very weak servant who has to rely on skills and game the system as hard as he can to stand a chance. Armed only with a single copy of Kanshou and Bakuya and excluding his Mind's Eye skill, Archer would be a bottom tier servant.
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>>124054157
Why is Patton as lancer? Wasn't he a tank commander before being a general?
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>>124055158
It's like saying "Batman is weak because he doesn't have super powers, he's probably bottom tier". Nasu shows Archer is strong, but not in a way where stats or simply abilities are in his advantage.

It's all about how he applies himself

With that logic you'd say Batman is shit and weak, but then you see him beat Superman the strongest hero. This is because Batman knows how to maximize his value, plan ahead, is good at analysis, and figuring out weakness. His stats might be all E rank, and he'd still have high value depending on how he applies it.

That's like Archer's value; he might have lousy stats, but UBW route shows us where his real value lies as he plays everyone time and time again.
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