Is hunterxhunter the shittiest thing to happen to anime

HxH is a manga first.

>>123572210
It's a great manga.

hmm what appeals? the plot? the character? I'm confused...

>>123572303
The characters.

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>>123572176
You're not the only one.
I tried getting into the manga knowing that it's supposed to get good at the point when they go to the tournament to earn some money but it was still incredibly boring and predictable.

>>123572353
What manga have you read that HxH was predictable?

>>123572333
I guess to a certain extent the characters are interesting but I wouldn't say stellar in comparison to a lot of the anime out there. What I dont understand is how people become obsessive over a mediocre anime.

>>123572433
>in comparison to a lot of the anime out there
Like what anime?

>>123572353
glad to know I'm not the only one

>>123572264
This. The 2011 version is a massive insult to the visual medium.

>>123572383
Plenty of manga is predictable, but if you throw it being boring in the mix, it's a huge problem.

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>>123572433
>hxh
>not a god-tier anime

pick one

>>123572510
That wasn't the question. I want to know what stories you've been reading/watching that make HxH predictable for you. Or do you just have an innate ability to predict everything?

>>123572483
>50 hours of mostly unanimated exposition

>>123572452
Characters that either you can identify or emphasize with. The first anime that comes to mind is Welcome to the NHK. Despite the slow points within it the characters simply make it enjoyable. Where as an anime like hxh probably only uses action to keep people entertained. I see no depth

>>123572433
>What I dont understand is how people become obsessive over a mediocre anime
A few memorable episodes lost in a ocean of mediocrity.

>>123572641
Not all character need to be sympathetic for them to be interesting, or for it to be interesting to see how they handle certain situations.

>>123572669
so are those few good episodes enough to have people become mouth breaking fucktards over it? almost everyone I know that watches the anime thinks its one of the most profound and amazing animes out there.

>>123572433
>What I dont understand is how people become obsessive over a mediocre anime.
And HxH is your first target? There aren't more popular shit anime that people obsess over? Like naruto or something

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>>123572483
>preferring the manga when the anime has full color, madhouses's smooth as hell animation, great voice acting, and a soundtrack

fucking why?

>>123572748
If you were to believe those the show is only 5 episodes long about the CA arc end.

>>123572756
well if you had someone post about the flaws in some of the most popular anime out there all I could imagine is the massive shit talking I'd get on a board like this >>123572756

>>123572787
Because the manga doesn't completely fuck up the pacing.

>>123572787
>the anime art is infinitely better than the manga
I love it when this happens.

>>123572787
Because I don't want to spend 60 hours on an anime with a bunch of stills and unfitting music.

>>123572574
And I told you my problem with HxH is that it's both predictable and boring. I've found plenty of manga that are predictable really good, because they weren't boring.

>>123572176

It's shit. The manga is shit.

All shit.

>>123573059
What's so predictable and boring about it?

>>123572641
>NHK
reddit confirmed

>>123573059
I don't care. HxH wasn't predictable for me in the slightest, and I want to know what kind of amazing shit you've been reading that make it pale in comparison.

>>123573113
don't be a assumptive faggot. I just enjoy it

>>123572787
Because the show's pacing and editing don't hold a candle to Togashi's impeccable storytelling. What you're doing here is pushing for superficial crap. Also it's hilarious how Madhouse flipping the panels was their best attempt at being creative.
>madhouses's smooth as hell animation
That's when there is animation. Which means pretty much never.

>go to Google image search
>take that first shitty result
>start HxH shitposting thread
How many times I've seen this now

>>123573332
itsnot like I'm gonna waist my time looking for a good image nigger

>>123573123
Maybe you shouldn't get so worked up by someone not liking your favorite manga.

But fine whatever.
Berserk, Onepunch man and Vagabond to some extent, I didn't find predictable at all.

>>123573517
I already read all of those. Is that it?

>>123573533
From top of my head, yes.

I'd say Prison School also but that's maybe because it's the first manga of that style that I've read so I don't know if it's predictable to someone that has read similar stuff.

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>>123573517
>OPM
>not predictable
>when the manga literally revolves around one punch line being repeated over and over

Come on nigger

>>123573803
How disappointing.

What's your favorite shounen?

>>123573517
Berserk became really boring after the tower of conviction, only a few plot points aren't predictable as fuck
Onepunch man is pretty entertaining, but after the 50th joke about Saitama being overpowered as fuck it becomes a bit less interesting

>>123573865
Are you asking the OP or everyone

>>123573865
JoJo and One Piece.

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>>123573329
>hxh is full of stills
i wonder who started this meme? When your show has 148 episodes, there will be some stills here and there. But for the most part it's 90% above average animation. I remember watching the gon vs hisoka fight and there was like 7 straight minutes of well choreographed, smoothly animated, fighting. You just don't get that kind of shit with other action anime.

>>123572825
they adapted that shit panel for panel pretty much, blame togashi if you need to

>muh pacing
There's only like ten or so episodes in chimera ant arc with slow pacing, and they were still good episodes because of the tense atmosphere and how the characters analyzed the stressful situations they were in

>>123574051
Everyone.

>>123573865
One Piece and Boku No Hero Academia

>>123574105
>replying to bait
It's probably the same guy who made 10 posts about HxH being shit in that Berserk/HxH thread the other day and didn't get any replies

>>123573865
HxH, Gash and JoJo

>>123573865
HxH and Level E(manga only).

>>123574212
I just reread his post, and yep it's clearly bait

I'm a dumbass

>>123574105
>i wonder who started this meme
The anime did.

>>123572176
You just have shit taste.

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>>123574105
>they adapted that shit panel for panel pretty much
That's the problem, retard. There's nothing to blame Togashi for. Things that worked in manga form, don't always work in anime form. Whoever adapts it should know this.
>There's only like ten or so episodes in chimera ant arc with slow pacing
People always assume I'm talking about the Chimera Ant arc, I don't know if that says more about them or me.

Anyway, I'm mostly talking about the beginning, actually. Which the 2011 version fucked royaly. They stretched single chapters out to full episodes, added shit that wasn't even there or was just glanced over in the manga because no one cared. They also fucked up in establishing Kite.

Nice tumblr gif, by the way, retard. Really shows off the rare quality animation 2011 version had.

It's a shitty dragon ball ripoff. No one gave a shit about it back when it aired in 1999. Only now it's getting a spotlight and that's because everything else that currently running is shittier than it.

>>123574650
thanks for your input

>>123574650
>dragon ball ripoff
I'm curious, how is it similar to DB? Unless you count Meruem, who is only similar to Cell in appearance and strength relative to the other characters

>>123573865
One Piece, JoJo, Boku no Hero Academia and Bleach

Sick baits.

>>123574476
They really made some some scenes longer than they needed to be. Like Canary meeting Killua and Gon falling into despair. Both of those were just one page. Also, Gon took too long to transform.

>>123574105
>there will be some stills here and there
>for the most part it's 90% above average animation
You do realize the show is incredibly unanimated and all the "examples" of good animation like the ubogin fight or Hisoka fight are complete exceptions right?
>You just don't get that kind of shit with other action anime
You need to lurk more.
>7 straight minutes
My sides.

>>123574105
>But for the most part it's 90% stills
ftfy

>>123573830
Being able to predict the fights isn't being able to predict the story.

>>123573865
It's gotta be HxH, JoJo, Kyou Kara Ore Wa, Again!!, Crows, Eyeshield 21, and GTO in no particular order.

Watch the original version, the 2011 version is pure shit

>>123573113
>NHK is Reddit
/v/ confirmed

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>>123572176
Definitely not the shittiest but one that causes the most suffering, for sure. I just want Togashi to stop being a lazy shit and start working. And no the 'muh back pain' doesn't work on me.

>>123574476
I'm still mad that an insignificant scene like Killua throwing pie at Gon was well-animated but Meruem vs Netero was a slideshow of manga panels and Komugi embracing Meruem was just a manga panel paste

>>123572353
Uhh... The manga gets good AFTER the tournament. Until that point it's just ok-good tier shounen, at least in my opinion. The York New arc is where it really begins to shine. Greed Island drops a bit but still has some nice moments (dodgeball, Bomber match )and CA arc is the outstanding one, where things really get fucked up.
You dropped it before it really even started.

>>123575809
No, it gets good during the exam.

The nen exposition in Heavens Arena is a low point, but then it gets better again until the beginning of the Ant arc, which is probably the lowest point of the series. It recovers wonderfully and now we've just gotten into the most hype arc yet.

>>123575809
The manga is good from the beginning.

>>123575809
Ok.

I might give it another change at some point then.

>>123575809
I think it's great from the beginning.

>>123575809
Why do you think CA is good? It has worse writing than bleach. Nothing that happens in it is entertaining or satisfactory. The story feels like it's changing direction with every episode.

>>123576153
I think you really start appreciating the happier arcs like the exam or heaven's arena after watching Yorkshin and CA

>>123576153
This. I was hooked by the first chapter.
>>123576277
Also this.

>>123576263
Cross Ange is obviously shit.

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I just started watching the original anime after reading up through the arc where they rescue Kilula.

Only 2 episodes in, what is all this filler shit, half this shit didn't even happen, filler characters, filler situations, I thought you guys said 1999 anime was better.

>>123576263
>seing netero serious for the first time against meruem wasn't satisfactory
yeah ok the way he decided to conclude it was pretty shit but still, there was a fight
>killua going ssj2
and finally
>gon wrecking pitou
yes it's bullshit but if it wasn't entertaining then you're either lying or retarded

not that anon by the way

>>123577288
Gon wrecking Pitou wasn't entertaining, it was tragic for both of them.

>>123577266
Yeah, the biggest problem with the 99 version is the filler
The typhoon filler episode was pretty good though

>>123577266
it is better than the 2011 anime

except for Killua. 2011 Killua is too cute to handle

>>123577266
You watch 1999 for Yorkshin anon.

>>123577371
2011 Killua made me drop it

what the fuck did they do to him? disgusting

>>123577266
>half this shit didn't even happen, filler characters, filler situations
What do you mean exactly? Only the second episode has shit that didn't happen

>>123577348
tragedy is a form of entertainment, so yes

>>123577288
>the way he decided to conclude it was pretty shit
The only shit is your opinion

>>123577677
>random asspull of a bomb
and you have shit for brains

>>123577266
It is better, in terms of direction, lighting and coloring. Furuhashi actually tries to explore the possibilities of the medium to tell stories instead of pasting panels. If you don't care about that then don't bother.

>>123577787
The nuke had been foreshadowed multiple times and it made sense that they would try to nuke him you fucking retard
Also it was pretty interesting to think that Meruem never actually stood a chance since he could have been nuked into oblivion if he ever tried something

>>123577787
The bomb was foreshadowed as early as the Zoldyck arc.

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>>123577865
>Furuhashi actually tries to explore the possibilities of the medium to tell stories instead of pasting panels
And he also gave us this masterpiece

>>123578022
He's brilliant

Why couldn't he direct Chimera Ant? ;_;

>>123572176
You aren't getting it at all.

>>123578022
Only good thing that came out of Kenshin.

Yes, it is.

>>123577960
No, Milluki talking about a bomb for a panel isn't foreshadowing, he even details it but it has nothing to do with the rose

>>123577923
can you point me to exactly where it's foreshadowed multiple times?

>>123578932
It's mentionned several times that they wouldn't be able to win against the ants in a straight up fight, so we already knew he was going to use some time of underhanded method to defeat the King.
Netero also said that he'd have to sacrifice someone to accomplish the mission and that the area they were in was for testing weapons of war. At that point you could have put some pieces together.

>>123572176
I don't even like HunterxHunter but if those are the only two options then you don't get it, chump.

>>123572641
>probably only uses action to keep people entertained
So confirmed for not having watched it but still criticizing things you assume the series does?
Because absolutely none of the fights were ever just "lol action".

Why'd HxH suddenly get an increase in hate? Even gender shitposting was better than this.

>>123579622
Because it also got an increase in popularity

>>123576263
>worse writing than bleach
You simply have a shit taste.
Entertaining or satisfactory? So you were looking for some sort of funny adventure and happy ending or something? I enjoyed it for amazing storytelling and interesting characters. The development of Gon and Killua, the sense of suspense and actions of the characters, unpredictable turns of events... I used to look down on shounen manga on general, but HxH, especially CA convinced me otherwise.
Then again, this is probably a bait and replying makes me just seem that much dumper.
Oh, well.

>>123577266
Anon what filler are you talking about?

Only the second episode has filler, most of the first episode was shit that 2011 skipped, and even then they don't have any filler characters.

>>123580533
I don't think CA had the 11/10 storytelling of Yorknew, but the characters and development were so impressive to me that it worked its way into my #1 arc of the series.

>>123573865
Jojo and One Piece, although I admit that they aren't as well written as FMA and the best parts of HxH.

>>123581433
>fma
>well-written

>>123581693
How is it poorly written aside from questionable comedy?

>>123581736
Shit characterization and the themes are poorly handled.

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>>123572483

>insult to the visual medium

>>123582843
Why is Gon floating in the air half the fight?

>>123582843
Hisoka was the only good thing about Heaven's Arena.

>>123582843
>one scene

>>123577371
>Killua cute
fuck off

>>123582843
Exceptions. It feels so good when they happen but looking at the big picture, it is still an insult to the medium.

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>>123583466
They really did make him too 'cute', but it's to the point where it's not as endearing.
He was cute in the manga, but both of the anime didn't capture that side of him too well.

>>123584127
Oh Killua definately had his cute moments in '99 anime. Especially during the Whale Island arc.

>>123581433
>FMA
>Well written

I like this meme.

>>123582843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5uVoqafQWs

>>123584692
Are you saying it's worse written than Jojo and One Piece?

>>123584756
No, I'm only saying its not well written.

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>>123578932
>can you point me to exactly where it's foreshadowed multiple times?

pic related is one

>>123584714
The '99 version manages to outdo the '11 version despite being very broadly similar and using outdated technology. Hisoka feels much more in control, and the eventual beatdown is a lot more satisfying

>>123580533
>Amazing Storytelling
>Interesting character
what? where? are we watching the same series. The CA is an ugly piece of writing that even the writer gave up on. Those long hiatuses happened for a reason, you know. It tries to be 2deep4u and fails miserably. Togashi tried to tackle themes that he himself don't know how to handle.
>unpredictable turns of events
Yea that one is true, even Togashi didn't know what was coming next.
>Sense of suspense and action
No, I didn't care about any of the heroes or the villains or the million other shitty animal character that was introduced and had nothing of value. The fights were anticlimactic as hell.
In the anime, whatever sense there may have been, was buried deep under the constants slow mos and pauses while a narrator tells what just happened in front of you.

You know dark and edgy doesn't mean it's mature or deep.

>>123584714
I like the old one more.

>>123585847
Make an argument without using buzzwords.

Oh, so are we finally at the point where we just hate the 2011 version for petty reasons?

>>123585847
>2deep4u
>themes that he himself don't know how to handle
What are you talking about?
It wasn't that deep, it was just showing the lines between the humans and ants being blurred, and individuality vs collectivity (Netero killing himself to save the rest of humanity/ Meruem giving up on his species to spend his last moments with the one person he loved is the most evident exemple)
There's no morals in the story, you just read it like a novel or something and that's part of what makes it good storytelling, he wasn't trying to shove a message somewhere
If this is 2deep4u, dark or edgy then i don't know what you watch
>I didn't care about any of the heroes or the villains
Why did you even watch it then? If you don't care about the story then you're not going to enjoy it
>whatever sense there may have been, was buried deep under the constants slow mos and pauses while a narrator tells what just happened in front of you
This didn't happen that much, there was maybe 5 times where it was really noticeable in the 60 episodes, and when it happened it was generally to introduce inner monologue or explaining details that we couldn't know otherwise

I feel like this bait never changes, everytime someone explains it and everytime someone says the same stupid shit again

>>123586480
>godawful direction
>petty reason

>>123586615
It's not really any worse than FMA:B or OP or most other shonen

>>123583554
There are much more grievous sins than the 2011 HxH, or have you only seen like 10 anime? At worse it is average.

>>123586480
2011 version had its honeymoon period after it started adapting CA, and even the hype from that was not enough to quell the criticism, but since it ended a while ago we're back to bashing the shitty direction full force.

>>123586686
The direction is definitely worse than FMA:B, what are you talking about? Brotherhood was close to perfection from start to finish.
OP, sure. But no one considers OP a good anime.

>>123586779
If you need to compare the show to the worst turds around to make it look good, it's not a good sign.

>>123586899
>Brotherhood was close to perfection from start to finish
Jesus Christ you're one of those

>>123586686
FMA:B's fights were more inspired than anything HxH11 shat out.

>>123586954
And again, that's now what I said. What I am saying is you saying it's an "insult" is a large exaggeration.

>>123586980
Oh really?

>>123586979
It was. Whatever faults Brotherhood had originated from its source material. it was as good an adaption as we could have possibly gotten.

>>123586980
Depends. If you compare it to the bottom of the barrel or the actual parts Madhouse put some real effort into.

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>>123587076
What are you talking about Brotherhood had huge flaws.

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>>123587076
>Whatever faults Brotherhood had originated from its source material

What's a good shounen adaptation?

>>123587133
>What are you talking about
That's what I asked you a few posts ago.

>>123586480
People get insanely nitpicky over popular, well received series. I'm bored of seeing people have to explain to morons why HxH is considered good when it's obvious they just have elevated expectations + different/bad taste.

>>123587185
FMA:B.

>>123573865
JoJo,Magi and FMA.

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>>123587076

>>123587185
Death Note.

>>123587133
>>123587177
>>123587268
>no argument
Nice meme pictures from last decade though.

>>123586615
You wouldn't call it godawful if you didn't have 1999 to compare it to. It's nothing special but it's not some atrocity either.

>>123574275
This.
Every other shonen is shit and you should feel bad for liking them.

Yes I'm including stuff like Animal Land, FMA, OP, YYH, and especially DBZ.

>>123587185
FMA '03 before they ran out of source material(FMA:B is still decent though). HxH '99(HxH '11 is still decent though).

>>123572176
While I wouldn't say it's the shittiest thing to happen to anime, it made me realize just how few shounen series the western anime community is actually familiar with considering how people treat the series at times.

>>123587363
I still would. It's not that hard to spot bad direction and I thought Rainbow was shit too.

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>>123587565
>bad direction

>>123587185
Urusei Yatsura

>>123587877
>It has good moments (thank you Togashi-sensei) so it has good direction
That's not how it works.

>>123587877
I never noticed how much Komugi looked like Chaika

>>123587877
>colored panels = good direction

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>>123587076
>it was as good an adaption as we could have possibly gotten

>>123587877
>made killua too cute
>made komugi ugly
>made pitou ugly
>made kurapika ugly
>made chrollo ugly
>made illumi ugly
>made Pariston ugly
>made Ging uglier

Why?

>>123587953
God, do not speak more if you do not have a slightest idea of direction is it or at least limit yourself not to throw stupid bait

FUCK

>>123588144
I can still tell it's you because you apparently haven't updated your reaction image folder in the last 5 years.

>>123587877
116 was the only well done episode in the entire arc

shit adaptation

>>123573865
One Piece + HxH

>mfw I saw the original 1999 anime way back in 6th grade
Why the fuck did they make another anime adaptation in 2011 when they could've easily just concluded Greed Island and then move onto the Chimera saga?

I was a huge HxH fan back in 2001, but after 14 years, it's starting to get stale on me.

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>>123588827
>frogshit
Thank you for your contribution.

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>>123587704
Gon and Killua look terrible

>>123588769
There was a 10 year gap, it would've been impossible to draw in so many new fans if it started halfway through based on an anime from a decade ago. And people who are already fans probably needed a refresher.

>>123588769
I liked HxH as a kid, then I just kind of forgot about it. Then I saw a picture of Gon-san in 2014 and was like, "oh, did he find his father?"

>>123588337
It doesn't take much skill to color a manga panel anon. That's the problem with the 2011 adaptation, some things that work well in manga format don't work well in animated format and vice versa.

>>123572176
I have love/hate relationship with hunter x hunter . There are some great moments and arcs. The plot is all over the place. Feel like it was written on the fly. Author would start something, then changes his mind completely the next. Hunter x Hunter is a story about Gon and Kiluea, the blonde guy and the guy with glasses are minor characters

>>123588918
Yet Japan made more movies for DBZ in the past 5 years...

>>123588947
I rarely watch anime nowadays. I don't have much time, but back in 2011, I was taking a break from exams and noticed that Hunter x Hunter was returning. Of course, I was disappointed as fuck that it was a reboot and it'd go all the way back to Square One.

I haven't even read the manga since Killua got his Hunter license.

>>123589005
Speaking of manga panels, why didn't they include Pitou's perspective while she was trying to intimidate Gon and Killua? During the moment she asked for Gon's name again and then remembered him from back then.

>>123589088
What you say is spot-on.

This is why I switched to The Law of Ueki over HxH.

>>123589148
Ueki turned into mediocrity way too fast.

I like the characters though.

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>>123577438
>Only the second episode has filler
Is this a meme? I'm up to episode 20 and just about every other episode is filler.

This gif is from a filler episode where a girl tries to avenger her father by killing Killua, demonstrating the fact that Killua is indeed a master edgelord.

There was the dumb filler in the first exam where the fought a tentacle monster of illusions or some shit.

Then there were the boat island episodes, which were actually pretty cool, but somehow seemed out of place in HxH.

>>123576263
Agreed. People have massive cognitive dissonance over the CA arc. They invested so much time they feel compelled to act as if it's good.

No doubt there are some good episodes and scenes in that arc, but it could have easily been cut by 65% and still remained the same. We didn't need episode after episode of people standing around while the narrator explains elaborate bullshit only to have those actions not even end up mattering.

It's a character driven show, but why the FUCK am I supposed to care about Shoot, Ikalgo, Knuckle, or Palm? It just feels so wasted. Like it could have done done differently, but it falls flat.

I still really like the show, but it just bums me out how shitty the pacing got sometimes.

Manga-Only fans being like
>Muh pacing
>Muh stills
>Muh maturity

Shut the fuck up. 2011 is a pretty solid adaptation for a great manga, now if you don't like it then shut the fuck up and watch another thing.

tfw Togashi will never finish the Dark Continent arc

>>123589601
It might have dragged on in the middle, but I was more entertained by Ueki than HxH. And at least we got a proper conclusion in the original series.

Too bad Law of Ueki Plus was axed.

>>123589692
I thought the pacing was slow at times but there's no 'compulsion' to act like it was good, it fucked with me emotionally and by the end every slow moment felt entirely worth it for the sake of building up to the climax.

>why the FUCK am I supposed to care about Shoot, Ikalgo, Knuckle, or Palm?
I started that arc thinking there were too many new characters and there was no way I would give a fuck about any of them, but I somehow ended up caring about every single one of them.

You might just not be the type to get emotionally invested in characters but plenty are and that's why the CA arc is so highly regarded by so many people.

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>>123588164
The only thing I agree on is pariston. He's such a qt in the manga. Anime made his face too long.

>>123589679
Out of the two you said you watched you cunt

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>>123589692
Shoot a best

>>123590062
I'm obviously a different person, asshat.

>>123590026
I'll admit I got somewhat attached to all of them. Except shoot. Fuck Shoot. Fucking does nothing, sees Gon running up the stairs and is suddenly filled with the conviction to do a bunch of fucking pirouettes on a flying fist.

Fuck that.

>>123590152
Seconding that. I don't see why he's so popular. His development was probably the most hamfisted in the entire series.

>>123590152
I fucking hated Shoot at first but man I really ended up feeling bad for him

>>123590207
>Shoot
>hamfisted

hehehehe

>>123590152
>>123590207
Faggots.

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>>123590043
>those dead, doll-like eyes.
Creepy.

I just want to see this as a fighting game in the future.

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Can we all agree that Knov was the worst character introduced the the Chimera arc? He gets one glimpse of Pouf's aura, pisses himself, and fucks off for the rest of the arc to be an ugly old man.

>>123590337
I just want a quality Killua scale figure.

>>123590292
This faggot needs to get laid.
He is like /r9k/ if they were attractive, powerful, and rich.

>>123590472
Knuckle was. Knov was vital but Biscuit could have trained Gon instead and actually do shit instead of running away all the time and almost die like Cuntckle.

>>123590472
Yeah.

Not only did that make Knov a shitty character, it also felt really weird. Like Togashi didn't want to deal with him anymore now that he had used him to establish a way into the palace.

He's more a plot device than a character. Weak.

>>123572940
Even worse is that is the redraw tank versions of the manga, the originals in weekly shonen jump are just a small step above stick figures.

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>>123590546
The chairman used to pound his ass every night.

>>123572176
You probably just didn't watch enough to make it to the good part.

I just marathoned the entire 148 episodes and read the manga chapters that follow. Apart from some obvious pacing issues in the Chimera ant arc I thought it was pretty great. Seems like one of those rare cases where a manga is carried mostly by its writing. There was constantly stuff that I didn't expect in a shonen manga.

What I like the most is the setting, and I can totally see why people are saying Falcom's latest Legend of Heroes ripped HxH off. There are so many similarities it isn't even funny. Too bad only one game is translated.

After watching HxH I think I'm willing to give either OP or FMA:B a chance. I take it both of those are worth watching if you liked HxH? I'm just hoping neither of them are extremely cliched and predictable.

>>123590472
The infiltration to the palace to set the portals was some pretty heavy shit. That alone made him pretty great in my book. I'd say almost every character gets their moment and in almost all cases it isn't what you would expect.

>>123590598
If that was the case the easier and more entertaining solution for the reader would have been killing him off in as shocking way as possible.

>>123590708
You sure those are the tanks? Gon looks pretty sketchy there.

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>>123590472
it was a shame too, his power was really cool and useful.

>>123590788
>I take it both of those are worth watching if you liked HxH?
If you really want to watch the OP anime then watch until the end of Enies Lobby. Then switch to the manga. The anime pacing gets unbearable and the animation and drawings are shit 90% of the time.

>>123590788
One Piece and FMA:B are both like 100 and 1000 times better than HxH. As far as characters, plot, and world building go.

>>123590952
good one

>>123590990
So, you think HxH lazy all over the place plot can compare to either of those? Or ANYTHING can compare to Oda's world building?

You think Gon and Sasuke 2.0 can compare to any manga's characters?

>>123591063
>Sasuke 2.0
Not even trying, huh?

>>123590952
OP has one of the most unlikeable cast of characters I've ever seen, the plot is tossup(HxH is better written but OP actually has an overarching plot, kind of), and the world building does go to OP since HxH doesn't really bother with it

>>123590788
Watch the original FMA first. Then read the manga, then watch brotherhood. Brotherhood rushes past the first few arcs because 2003 already covered it. 2003 also had a better soundtrack and, arguably, better atmosphere and character designs. However, if you watch brotherhood or read the manga first you may find it hard to enjoy the first FMA once it departs from the manga storyline.

>>123591063
Kurapika is Sasuke. Or rather, Sasuka is Kurapika. Kishimoto wasn't very subtle on that account.

>>123591119
>OP has one of the most unlikeable cast of characters I've ever seen
0/10

>>123591063
>You think Gon and Sasuke 2.0
Killua is based on Hiei if anything, even then the similarity is mostly superficial

Stop responding to obvious bait you retards.
Oh I forgot that this whole thread is bait. Ah well

>>123591119
>HxH doesn't really bother with it
There's a considerable amount of world-building in each arc. Nen, Greed Island, the world of appraisers, East Gorteau and NGL, etc.

>>123590788
>I take it both of those are worth watching if you liked HxH? I'm just hoping neither of them are extremely cliched and predictable.
Both are worth reading, and FMA:B worth watching. But if the thing you like about HxH is how unpredictable it can be (same as me), I wouldn't go into them expecting more of the same. OP can extremely formulaic and the arcs follow pretty set patterns. FMA is polished and tightly written, not necessarily surprising.

>>123590788
>I'm just hoping neither of them are extremely cliched and predictable.

Inb4 a bunch of bait shit because >muh shounen.

As someone who's watched FMA:B and read OP.

They're worth your time, while staying slightly predictable. Though, you should expect that because these are aimed at the teenage demo and are usually that way to pander to the most amount of people possible.

FMA:B is only 50 episodes. Short and sweet in the scope of popular shounen. If you had time to watch HxH you have time to watch this. Pack it away in a couple nights and I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself. If you enjoy the world and characters there is other FMA media for you to consume.
>>123591135 I would not reccomend this. You don't need the full package. You just want to dip your feet in and see if you'll enjoy it.

OP: I tried to watch the anime but frankly found the starting bit abysmal. The fact that it's so dated doesn't help either. It starts off as small budget shounen and doesn't shy away from that fact. I'd just read the manga. There's a lot to take in and it goes by quicker when your reading. Considering the pacing and portraying OP in this medium is better anyways, its more worth your time.

>>123591227
Bait threads turn into HxH discussion threads every time.

>>123591190
>Franky
>Brook
>Usopp
>Chopper

Literally all obnoxious joke characters. Sanji is pretty close too. Nami and Nico Robin are kinda ok but not really charismatic. Zoro is cool. Luffy is likeable too, but that's because he's like 90% Goku.

>>123591252
Please don't even try comparing that bullshit to Oda's insane levels of world building. You may as well just say that HxH isn't even trying with it.

>>123591252
HxH makes me thirsty for more world building. I hope that the dark continent arc will help with that.

>>123591324
>Literally all obnoxious joke characters
Literally shit taste, but I still respect your opinion.

>>123591340
>it doesn't have as much world building as OP so it's not trying

>>123591351
There's a reason why it's called the "dark continent."

If you like battle shounen and don't enjoy both One Piece and Hunter x Hunter you literally have abysmal taste and should consider suicide as soon as fucking possible.

>>123591493
but HxH is shit

>>123591493
I dropped OP but I'm considering picking it back up to fill the void.

I assume that everyone who reads OP has been reading it for 5+ years. It's too imtimidating to start otherwise. Wasn't "long piece is long" a meme back in 2006?

>>123572176
There are two things that are true about hunterxhunter.

First it is a bad anime when you compare it to superior action shows, look at the hellsing OVA. Regardless of whether you like Alucard you have to admit his fight scenes are superior because the budget is so damn high. OVAs and movies will contain the best action anime for this reas.

Second within it's own narrow category, tv action shows, it isn't that bad. The characters are interesting, the homolust is godly, and the coloring is nice. It's nowhere near as satisfying as something like Kenshrio, Claymore, or even one of the better Dragon Ball arches though.

It's not a terrible show. A solid 3/5

>>123574650
>baby-tier troll

>>123591421
It's filled with niggers.

>>123591618
>The characters are interesting, the homolust is godly,

Characters are shit and super 1 dimensional.

also i feel like you fags only like it because of the homolust.

Trolls are in full force tonight.

Reminder to not respond to bait.

>>123582283
Compare 2003 FMA with almost any shonen.

>>123591493
Take your own advice faggot.

>>123591868
Reminder to never consider that certain aspects of HxH might not be 100% perfect.

>>123591950
there's a difference between admitting faults and spouting shit like >>123591757

>>123591913
Why are you still alive? I told you to end your life, so please do it.

FMAB is fucking overrated
please go back to MAL if you disagree

>>123584714
The old one is clearly worse in every aspect. It's fine for 99 but it's obviously outdated. Don't know how anyone could argue this

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>>123591868
I don't know anon, sometimes I prefer this than discussions about the Gender of the characters and Gon X Killua relationship.

>>123592135
>provides no actual argument
Sure thing buddy

>>123591950
Did you even read OP's post?

There's a big difference between legitimate critique and calling something 'the shittiest thing to happen to anime', which is so stupidly hyperbolic that it can be nothing but bait.

>>123592000
That's true. Also nice trips.

For a legitimate criticism, how do people feel about the ending of the Greed Island arc? I think that I enjoy that arc more than the average fan, but I find the end to be really anticlimactic. I just don't think Genthru is an exciting or even particularly menacing villain. He's almost an afterthought. It's a shame because I think with a few tweaks it could have been so much better.

>>123592047
>FMA:b
Agree but if you're talking about 2003 i'll fight you nigga

>>123592174
It's all shitposting in the end.

It's going to be like this until Togashi releases another chapter.

>>123592012
>If you like battle shounen and don't enjoy both One Piece and Hunter x Hunter
>I told you to end your life
No you didn't and I told you take your own advice faggot do the world a flavor.

>>123592000
The characters ARE one dimensional though and very boring.

Like real talk. Someone explain why Kilua likes Gon so much and wants to be friends with him. Vice Versa for Gon and Kiliua.

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>>123592188
The ones liking the old one provided no argument either as there is none so can't blame them. I'm willing to accept that some people just have shit taste and like older anime simply for ego.

Not that all older anime is bad. hxh wasn't bad either, but 2011 is clearly better.

>b-b-but still no argument!

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>>123592230
I thought Genthru would have been on Gon's level since he looked like such a faggot with that chin and robe, so it kind of surprised me that he was actually pretty strong.

>>123592230
I don't think it was an anticlimactic ending, we got a big fight and it was pretty great. He and his cronies didn't need to die for it to be a satisfying end, they still lost.

You're right about Genthru though, he's easily the worst villain in the series and it's disappointing. I agree that it could've been a lot better if it was changed a bit.

>>123592363
>The ones liking the old one provided no argument either
Fuck off if you refuse to read the thread.

>>123573865
yu yu hakusho

>>123592012
>>123592273
No reply? You did good anon now the world is a better place.

>>123592351
You'll find your answer in the manga. It helps when you actually read the stuff you try to shitpost about.

>>123592479
Shit taste anon.

How do you manage to keep your interest in HxH with all the hiatus bullshit? I used to love it but I completely lost interest in it because of Togashis fucking lazy faggot ass.

>>123592455
Sorry, wasn't counting bait

>>123592549
It's still much better than every ongoing shonen right now

>>123592351
Because Killua had no friends in his childhood and Gon is the first person his age he'd met outside his home, same with Gon. Other than that they're just kids who have fun and experience things together. Killua thinks the sun shines out of Gon's ass because of it and has become dependant on him since he didn't have any goals of his own (until Alluka), and Gon takes Killua for granted.

Seriously if you're going to pick shallow characterization, how the fuck can you choose them considering how much their relationship develops over time? Their relationship drama in CA arc was heavy as fuck.

>>123592443
Yeah, I didn't mean I wanted Genthru to die. I just wanted him to be more interesting. It just felt like they beat Razor and collected all these cards and were like "Oh yeah, now we have to deal with THIS jackass too."

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>>123592351
>characters are one dimensional
>almost every character goes through some kind of development during the series, even secondary ones like Shoot or Palm
Killua likes Gon because he's the first person to not give a shit about him being from a family of serial murderers
Gon would make friends with pretty much anyone, he just gets along really well with Killua because they're the same age and their personalities fit well

>>123592633
I can't agree. Out of frustration I started One Piece and I enjoy it a whole lot more.

>>123592549
>How do you manage to keep your interest in HxH
I don't instead I read better shounen.

>>123592538
Why

>>123592719
Like...?

>>123592691
Poor Killua must be passing a kidney stone.

>>123592633
>It's still much better than every ongoing shonen right now
Fucking kek

>>123592778
How's bleach?

>>123592652
I think they both take each other for granted.

>>123592849
>Bleach is the only ongoing shonen
Try harder.

>>123592351
you clearly don't know what one-dimensional means.

>>123592859
True, since Killua never bothers to tell Gon how he feels about him and that's not true the other way around. Gon's just more overt about it at times.

>>123572176
Poor man's Toriko right here.

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>>123592990
>Killua never bothers to tell Gon how he feels about him
Well, he did express his frustration and anger to his comatose body. Maybe he'll pull a Shinji next time.

>>123584714
They're both pretty good, but I'm gonna have to give it to the new one.

>>123592660
The dodgeball game was fucking awesome and probably more climactic than the actual final battle, but Togashi placing climaxes mid arc is nothing unusual.

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>>123572787
>Madhous adaptation is bad
I love this meme
Yea yea you can't outdo the source material but really anyone that say 11 is a bad adaptation has mental issues
Also
>>123584714
They are both great, 99 may even look better here, but fuck all if it was anywhere else

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>>123592363
There's a better use of angles(e.g. in the feint and pic related), in the first part of the fight 1999's Hisoka makes shorter, more economical movements compared to 2011's wide dodging, which makes him seem more in control of the fight and much more powerful(e.g. when he's swatting away the stones), it shows more closeups on the character's faces, which helps contextualizing the fight(e.g. when Hisoka gets his ass whooped while the 11's prefers to show us gone repeatedly beating a shit load of sweat off him), the final beatdown is a lot more dynamic and interesting to watch

>>123592351
Just because you're too autistic to understand character motivations and emotions doesn't make something poorly written. You can't expect characters to monologue their feelings and motivations to the audience. That's generally something that people don't like to see. It's called show, don't tell.

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>>123593188
I think you're the one with mental issues.

It seems like there are an equal number of people who each support the 1999 show, the 2011 show or the manga, and they call all other versions garbage.

Makes it really hard to know where to start with this franchise for an interested newcomer.

>>123593376
The manga.

>>123593376
Manga.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOAzDr_alV8

>>123592719
So you keep rereading Gash Bell?
What the fuck is the point?
We are never getting anything like it and Animal Land turned to shit when Monoko died.

>>123593317
It's done a lot better in FMA and One Piece

>>123593376
Probably the manga
If you want to start with the anime, you should probably watch the 99 version first up to the end of the Yorknew arc then switch to the 2011 one
Or at least watch the first episode of the 99 version before Madhouse's, they skip an important character's introduction for some reason
All 3 versions have their pros and their cons though

>>123593376
manga, because you'll have the end up going back to it anyway.

>>123593475
What motivations in FMA?
I agree with you on OP but something tells me your powerlevel is comparable to casuals on tumblr.

Just be honest and admit you have only watched 5 anime.

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>>123593475
I'm betting your one of those people that doesn't understand why Killua was so upset in this scene, too.

>>123593376
The 2011 version is good and the 1999 version and the manga are very good, you can't really go wrong either way

>>123593469
>Gash Bell
Yeah no said I "instead I read better shounen" not worse.

>>123593468
There's no real contest here. The winner is obviously 1999.

>>123593612
Name a shonen better than Gash Bell.

I loved the 99 version of Yorkshin but fuck me, Madhouse did a much better job with those scenes in particular
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3oGDxd6Jqg

>>123593555
But if you think Gon a worst then you must have not understood it either

>>123593522
You probably have watched a lot more anime than I have. Most people in this thread probably have.

And that's exactly why I'm so pissed after wasting time on watching through Hunter x Hunter.

Because I normally only watch the best animes. Such as
One Piece
Ping Pong
Attack on Titan
Parasyte
etc

>>123593468
2011>>>>>>>>>>>>Shit>1999

>>123593555
Is it because literal fucking children are acting like petty children?

>>123593722
HxH

>>123593337
Left is better

>>123593722
>Name a shonen better than Gash Bell.
I just did... HxH.

>>123593722
HxH

>>123593744
Holy shit.
Please don't state your opinions ever again until you have watched more.
Your opinion is only welcomed on MAL/reddit/tumblr not here.

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>>123593468
Pika's rage is more apparent in the 1999 version. I am a fan of how 2011 switches to high contrast black and white during dramatic scenes, though.

>>123593865
I didn't say those are the "only" shows I've seen. It's just that they are all much better than hxh.

HxH is like Kaze no Stigma and Naruto tier.

>>123593865
>getting baited this hard
You need to leave this website.

>>123593376
They're honestly all pretty good. Just depends on your preferences and what's convenient for you.

>Manga if you prefer reading manga in general and want the most accurate version (1999 has some filler and 2011 rearranges scenes/leaves out involving an important character)
>1999 then switch to 2011 if you're fussy about visual and sound directing
>2011 if you don't want any filler and would prefer a holistic/consistent experience rather than downloading two versions of a series you may not even end up liking

>>123593865
Why do people respond to shit bait?

>>123572787
>full color
wow my technicolor animaymay. actually the color palette is really poorly done especially when 1999 did it right.

>smooth as hell animation
there's maybe one episode worth of half decent animation

>great voice acting
really not

>and a soundtrack
i like how you didn't even try to claim it's a good soundtrack, because in this case no music would've been better than the pile of shit they composed.

1999 is a good adaptation, 2011 is garbage.

>>123594089
Because it just makes me so so upset.

>>123594135
I can understand any of those points except about the voice acting. Megumi Han did a stand out job during the CA arc and in general there's no weak points to the voice acting.

>>123594489
I thought most of the actors for characters that were introduced in CA were shit. Mostly the ants themselves.

>>123594135
the soundtrack was actually decent. It was just poorly used.

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>>123594153
>Because it just makes me so so upset

>>123594559
True, but even listening to the tracks on their own I thought it felt off for Hunter x Hunter.

>>123572176
I personally think shows like Attack On Titan and SAO are about 3 times better than HxH

>>123594135
>insulting the voice acting
You did not. Honestly, the voice acting was probably the weakest part of 1999. 2011 fixed that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpsKPnCSFGI

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>>123594559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7Uhn3-ZDk

This fucking tune. Every goddamn time.

>>123577266
The original anime is better because of the filler. You actually get a sense that the characters have a history that matters, unlike the way they otherwise get shoved in your face with a bunch of exposition.

>>123594792
1999 adaptation never really had a chance to showcase any talent from the voiceactors besides Kurapika.

>>123594845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAIpdZR5XfM to compare

Why couldn't the 2011 version translate the narrator's observations of the characters through the visuals instead?

>>123594952
I agree, 2011 and 1999 were about even in my opinion for the main characters but the new characters in CA really had shitty voices except for Komugi.

1999's soundtrack wasn't amazing. From the way people go on about it you'd think it's the same quality as 2003 fma. It's just better than 2011, but not by a huge margin.

>>123595021
Meruem's voice was great.

>>123594968
this is a good track but it doesn't fit HxH particularly well

>>123595016
Because it followed the manga and visuals can't explain thought processes to that extent.

>>123595087
Actually it works just fine considering what that theme is used for.

>>123572176
I'm sick of seeing all this hate on Hunter x Hunter. Everyone just says "it's bad" or "it sucks"

If you really have legitimate problems with HxH then at least say what they are in a well thought out manner.

>In before you can't because HxH is actually one of the best shounen right now.

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>>123595107
>Because it followed the manga

>>123595175
Would it be better to say because the director doesn't realize that when you have the scene play out in animated format then it doesn't need any narration? In other words what works for a manga or may not work when its animated and vice versa.

>>123594845
What's wrong with this? It really captures the idea of rushing headlong into adventure. Might've been a little overused though.

>>123595169
The best critiques always come from fans of the series. People who post stupid threads like this rarely have anything interesting to say about it, just that they didn't like it.

>>123595234
Yes.

>>123595087
I think it fits more than the 2011 soundtrack which is too flashy. The 1999 one is more mysterious and feels like adventure. Obviously I am used to it since I watched that series first. Maybe it makes more sense if you watch the series and understand how it feels differently from 2011.

>>123595107
True, but they could have cut a lot of what the narrator said. In the manga it was fine since you can read faster, but it was a slow grind in the anime. Plus, they cut nice parts like the timer at the start of the invasion, there's no excuse for the choices in that direction other than they wanted to save money by lengthening it.

>>123595084
I didn't like it. Felt too average. Especially hated octopus's voice.

>>123595087
I like it, it feels light and exotic without being childish, I think it fits well

>>123592761
Most ongoing shounen anon.

>>123595293
>Felt too average
It felt perfect especially with the way he speaks.

>>123592761
JoJo
One Piece
FMA
Bleach
Naruto(at least it's finished)
Attack On Titan
Kekkai Sensen
7 Deadly Sins
Akame Ga Kill

When are Gon and Killua going to finally do little boy butt stuff? All this waiting is killing me.

>>123595429
evin

>>123595311
Exotic is a good term. And 2011 soundtrack, especially at the start, feels kind of synthetic in comparison. I still remember the threads when everyone was whining about the bad soundtrack (Hisoka's theme in the Hunter exam especially) and I wonder if people today really think it is good.

>>123595399
I thought he needed to sound more imposing or menacing, the VA sounded too bored even when he was meant to sound intimidating.

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>>123595461
Never, because I'll be the one doing butt stuff to Killua.

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>>123595245
Overused is key.
songs on the soundtrack that reused that melody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02gbpGVbyJg&index=10&list=PL7636F65EA6C7228C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBdyMyYvfig&list=PL7636F65EA6C7228C&index=15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mguKt8efSV4&index=16&list=PL7636F65EA6C7228C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvlZDJR267Y&list=PL7636F65EA6C7228C&index=22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jABvp01nr2E&index=31&list=PL7636F65EA6C7228C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBlO7zMxLOs&index=35&list=PL7636F65EA6C7228C

>>123595530
>that horrible timing of hisoka's theme

>>123595530
>Hisoka's theme in the Hunter exam especially

Fuck that is a great song. My feelings about the OST of 1999 and 2011 aren't as strong as some people here, but I thought that song was excellent.

>>123595530
>Meruem needed to sound more imposing or menacing
Someone who's bored and knows he's the King needed to sound more imposing and menacing. Yeah sure, anon.