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FSN UBW promo artworks have always been bad, but this is on a

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FSN UBW promo artworks have always been bad, but this is on a level of its own.
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>>121241447
>look how cute and small it is
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>>121241502
Thats my fetish
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>>121241502
That is also my fetish
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>>121241749
Good taste, man.
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I got real sick of the Grail War system after Fate/stay night. I don't know how you guys can still be into it after all of these years.
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>>121241447
If fate stay night were a harem true this is what it would look like, love interest in the center with the two runner ups on the side. for example, Tolovru. Haruna, center, Lala, right, Yui left. Inou battle, Tomoyo center, Hokuto, right , Chifufu, left. another example. D-frag. Roka center, Takao right, Sakura left. final example. Daily lives with monster girls. Miia center, Centora, left, Papi, right. Come at me, anons. You know this is how it is.
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>>121241502
>look how cute and small it is
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>>121242109
Shirou please leave
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>>121241447
I feel bad for criticizing chara designers after the bullying in shirobako.

Is this the same illustrator as all the other promo material? Not sure why random still-frames in the show are better QC'd than these.
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KnK is still the only good TM series.
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I feel like if they just moved all the mouths down, it would look a lot better.
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>>121241447
haha they all have the same face
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>>121242290
Fate/stay night and Zero were fine, though. It's when they decided to milk so many alternate universe spin-off bullshit.
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>>121242290
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>>121242334
Exactly, they should've just stopped with Zero. Extra was milking it a bit too much
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>>121242334
Who cares? It's not like the spinoffs detract from the quality of SN or Zero. It's just fanservice.
>>121242383
Extra is actually good... it's not blatant milking like Prism Illya or Carnival Phantasm.
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>>121241447
Jesus fucking christ that art is awful. Kill it with fire.
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>>121241447
ufo just can't into Takeuchi.

For fuck's sake, who's in charge of chara design for this?
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>>121242491
But Carnival Phantasm is the best thing Type Moon has ever done
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>>121242491
Carnival Phantasm wasn't milking, what drugs are you on.
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>>121242491
>Extra is actually good

Persona 4: Straight to DVD edition
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>>121241447
Quality thread?
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>>121242491
I have the exact opposite sentiment. Prisma Ilya is a glorified fanfic, yes, but I think the author legitimately wanted to build off of Fate, so not mainly for milking. Carnival Phantasm is just fantastic, probably one of the best and most hilarious things that TM has put out.

Extra is okay, but the TM actually admitted that Nero was a Saber-clone to attract Saberfags and it just came at a rather late date as well. Almost 6 years after F/SN, while Prisma was about 3 years. Therefore, this suggests that F/E had a much larger incentive to make money off of Fate than the other franchises that you said.
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>>121242491
>It's just fanservice.
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>>121242383
I agree. They should have stopped after Zero and expanded what they had. I'm tired of spin-off after spin-off.
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Reddit finally got their shit together and reworked their Fate/stay night guide. What does /a/ think of it?

http://www.reddit.com/r/fatestaynight/comments/2vuci5/new_to_fate_v2_by_uadelkoenig/
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>>121243293
>reddit
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>>121243293
It looks okay to me, I suppose. Although I realized a while ago that I wasn't really mad when someone didn't read the VN, I just didn't want more people in the fandom to ruin the threads.
Also, obligatory
>reddit
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King of cucks
Wormlsut
Anus defender
all drawn like dignified whores as they should be.
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>>121243381
Many more new fans will check Reddit than here. Now think, these guys are going to make suggestions on what to watch and when.

>"Check out Fate/Zero. It's a prequel so you should be okay."

Sometimes I wonder if I should just sit down and write the guide, these guys are ridiculous.
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>>121243445
As long as they don't go on here and post in the threads, I don't mind.
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>>121241447
So bad that it crashed my browser
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>>121243293
What's so hard about this.

<Plot Summary for Fate/stay night>
<It's almost best to read the visual novel's for Type Moon stories>
<Check out Fate/Zero and Fate/hollow ataraxia if you want more>
<Thanks Mirror Moon, Beast's Lair, UTW, Eclipse and whoever the fuck else>
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>>121243293
At least they aren't pulling a NeoGAF and straight up saying: "Watch Fate/Zero first."
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>>121244038
People really say that?
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>>121241447
That's scary for a promo. And this isn't even that type of show.
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>>121244087
Not that anon but I see it all the time.
And when people say it spoils fate they respond with.... "but fate spoils zero as well"
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>>121244087
>Start with the first ep of Fate/Zero. Stop at the last ep of Fate/Zero.

>F/SN UBW problems are not just the quality of the source material. The show is hardly watchable as seemingly the director didn't have the courage or maybe talent to do anything creative with it in the adaptation process instead we're getting an almost frame by frame "faithful" adaptation with no concern for episodic TV format, pacing and audiences' patience. In the end I don't think many would find this enjoyable other than the most hardcore VN fans. It's for them. UBW could have a decent adaptation showing everything worth showing and telling in 4-5 hours instead it's like they're adapting The Hobbit to a 6 movie "saga" with extended cut to be released later on top of that. Just being pretty isn't going to cut it.

>Fate/Zero spoils one or two details of F/SN, that isn't even a major focus point on the overall story.
Fate/Stay Night spoils the entire ending of Fate/Zero. You can make the choice.

>I don't care. Fate/zero is too good to be grouped in with trash like fate/stay night and fucking tsukihime.
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>>121244038
But if you watch FZ first, everything else will look shit in comparison.
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>>121244201
>>121244256
I guess I should have known better than to expect people to understand the concept of a prequel.
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>>121244284
This is true.
I watched FSN 2006 as my first anime, then F/Z after I discovered it.
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>>121244038
There's really no problem with starting with Fate Zero first. If any work is good as other works, they can work standalone.
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>>121244284
It's hard for an adaptation of a 1st person multiroute VN to stack up to a light novel adaptation. The way the story flows is far different and is why eroge adaptations generally suck..
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>>121244394
Still though, there are some choices, like art style and music, that aren't influenced by medium that could've been handled better.
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>>121242563
>ufo just can't into Takeuchi.

But thats how Takeuchi draws his characters now
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"Those readers who thought Fate/stay night “should have more than blood, tears and tragic endings”, this is for you! This is the true ‘Heaven’s Feel’, with the battle for survival as its essence!
This is Emiya Kiritsugu’s other side that was never mentioned until now and unknown by others.
This is the fourth Heaven’s Feel that’s never been completely described until now.
If we have to define it, it’s an extra part spin out of canon story. It's a unique leaf of a melody that Urobuchi Gen conducted from a completely Fate-ish trunk. Here, you don’t have to consider the content of the ‘Fate/stay night’ game. Only move the story according to your wishes, let the characters shown portray themselves to the fullest and rush towards the ending without regret.
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>>121241447
is CP worth watching even if I don't care about type/moon stuff? I've only seen prisma.
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>>121244842
>is CP worth watching
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>>121244842
No, most of Carnival Phantasm's humor comes from its making jokes of TM. You can still enjoy without having gotten into TM, but you just won't appreciate it nearly as much as if you did.
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I've been going through Zero and UBW episode by episode, and people I think really have some rose tinted glasses for Zero.

The first three episodes of Zero are almost pure build up and exposition. There isn't any real action at all, and if you knew about the basic stuff regarding the grail war, as you probably should since this is a prequel, lots of the content in these parts is basically just retreading of info from the Fate route.

Looking at UBW as well, I'm not really understanding some of the complaints. People say it's slow, but it gets to the action straight up at episode 0, and in terms of music and sound, another complaint I'm hearing, it's roughly on the same level as Zero. I think people who complain about the soundtrack aren't looking at the way the two shows used it in context, plus Zero has the benefit of actually already having its CDs as reference points.
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Unlimited Blade Works was my favorite route. Thanks to this thread I just discovered Ufotable finally went back and made a brand new anime of it.

http://youtu.be/q2G66dW0174
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>>121241447
What are they looking at?
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>>121245081
Dude, the first cour was one of the most talked about anime of the Fall.

If you're just hearing about it now though, I'd wait a month for the BDs. They're supposed to have over an hour and a half of content Ufotable couldn't add to the broadcast version, plus it comes out 10 days before the second set of episodes.
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>Fate
lol
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>>121244927
Real talk; it's not. Don't do it. Stick to loli for the love of god.
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>>121245060
>plus Zero has the benefit of actually already having its CDs as reference points.
What about UBW having like the actual VN

>it's roughly on the same level as Zero
I think the problem, or difference rather, with UBW's OST is that it's just not as thematic as Zero's. Call Kajiura a one-trick-pony all you wish, but her compositions were at least very melodic and memorable, regardless of quality. Besides, her orchestral latin chants were really fitting to the atmosphere. UBW just doesn't seem to make much of an impact, therefore the complaints.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVYCU2dhwIY
Every F/Z song, for example, but it at least sounded cool
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>>121245130
I don't check /a/ or any anime sites. Fate/stay night VN was always my favorite, and I'm so glad we've got this now. I should wait for the BDs but I can't resist.

http://youtu.be/lNPesnjM2Sg

Remember how excited and blown away they were by this?
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>>121245218
>I think the problem, or difference rather, with UBW's OST is that it's just not as thematic as Zero's

I don'tthink this is true at all. Kajiura's score was centered around mostly a single motif, but if you actually listen to UBW's soundtrack, it's extremely thematic. Every character has a theme and motif, and it's not just the same exact song playing either. There's a new version every time.

That's another thing about Zero compared to UBW. Zero reused music constantly, with the exception of Kajiura's tracks, Fukasawa's music seems to be entirely original for each episode.
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>>121245236
UBW's my favorite too, man, and it's a good adaptation. Enjoy yourself.

Though be prepared that the OP isn't as cool as that.
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>>121245102
Black cock
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>>121245338
Sorry, I meant thematic in using the same sort of line or "theme" throughout, like what you said about Kajiura. It's just that that line happened to be the sort of "catchy, yet tragically sad" piece that gets everyone's attention.

I do wish UBW remixed more songs from the VN however.
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>>121245151
>lol
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>>121241447
What are the chances of Ufotable fucking up Archer vs Shirou?
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http://youtu.be/tovAPayJ_Pk
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>>121245587
I thought Butcher was all for tragic ends, so why did he circlejerk Waver/Rider so much?
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>>121245538
They'll fix it in the BDs!
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>>121241447
>mfw
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>>121245622
>Buy the BDs™
I'm buying them regardless but that's no excuse to fuck up the best part of the VN.
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>>121245469
UBW does have a main theme, it plays a lot during Shirou's scenes, but also when general heroic stuff happens. There's also an ominous more ambient version that plays during creepier or darker scenes. I don't think it's as good as the one Kajiura wrote for Zero, but I don't really think it has to, since the entire soundtrack isn't centered around it.

Like, if you listen to Zero's music, Kajiura slips in that theme in most of the tracks, while Fukasawa tends to write a theme for character x, and then whenever a scene happens with that character happens, a version of that melody plays.

With the VN music, I don't know it's a toss up. I get that people want to hear it, but you'd also have the people who'd say it's not as good as the original, so you can't really please everyone. Fukasawa just decided to try and strike out with his own original stuff. I mean I think he was the one who remastered the 2012 soundtrack for the Vita version, so I could understand him being tired of working with those tracks.
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>>121245709
It's a throwback to Fate/Zero. Episode 24 was just straight up bad with how much they cut and tried to jam together.
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>>121245785
Was it? I just stuck to the LNs and never really touched the F/Z anime after hearing the amount of stuff they cut/skipped out.
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>>121245853
For the most part, the anime does stay very close to the essence of the novels. A large majority of the differences come from how the anime portrays the characterization; the novels uses the third-person narration heavily to describe the thought processes of each character. The anime does not take this route. Case in point, episode 17 "The Eighth Contract":

The entire meeting between Kirei and Tokiomi to inform of Risei's death is completely anime-original. In the novels, the narrator goes to great lengths to describe just how much of an impact this death on Tokiomi's confidence. Tokiomi is actually an average magus given prominence not due to his talent but for his hard work and effort (a detail omitted from this episode). He has become who he is due to how he planned out his life to become the ideal magus, so naturally his plan coming apart bit by bit would shake him quite a bit. The anime depicts all of this simply by having him respond to Risei's death in a very shaken, angry manner, an action that would normally be completely out of character for him.

Afterwards, Gilgamesh probing into Kirei's thoughts about the matter condenses a relatively long narrative about Kirei's personal feelings about how his life has turned out thus far (which includes a flashback to his recently deceased wife that was mentioned in the very beginning of the story) into approximately 30 seconds of dialogue. The scene that this narrative takes place, when Kirei first discovers Risei's body, is not even alluded to in the anime. This is probably because Kirei actually sheds tears for his father, not out of sadness, but due to how he wasn't the one to actually kill him. Naturally, this is cut out of the anime since the visual direction has Kirei strictly being completely emotionless until those last moments. Instead, the anime has Gilgamesh cut right into the heart of the matter.
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>>121245853
They really didn't cut or skip that much. You should watch it if you liked the LN.
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Original VN OST or RN OST? Which do you guys generally prefer?

I played through the VN a few months ago[watched h scenes, no RN content] and after finishing I tried to listen to the unremixed ost and it sounded so dated it hurt.

I suppose it's because I played with remixed track and all my memories are associated with it that I prefer it.
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I know it's not totally relevant here, but I didn't know the meaning of suffering until I started reading HA on an empty stomach
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>>121245984
Did they keep the sex scenes and Iri's monolouges about Maiya?
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>>121246076
2012 Soundtrack, far and away better.

Tsukihime "EVER AFTER" too.
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>>121246076
Original VN OST for the most part, however RN's renditions of Revived Legends(Berserker's theme) and Mighty Wind are superior.
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>>121246128
Ever After fucked up Track06. Everything else was ok.
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>>121246187
This is true. Track06 was horrendous
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>>121246128
>Tsukihime "EVER AFTER"
Track06 and Track07 are better in the original versions.
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>>121242290
Fine taste my good sir
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>>121246076
Some tracks are better, some tracks are worse. I prefer the original version of Ever Present Feeling, for instance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F2D-TCm61Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfpESuES3m0

They fucked up the flute in the latter track. The mixed it way too far into the back.
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>>121246239
Probably. Which version had the guitar in the credits?
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>>121246284
Kagetsu Tohya had the guitar in the credits.
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>>121246076
Original. Better placement in the original, and Clashing Souls was removed from the first battle in RN which is unforgivable.
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Can we talk about the Kagestu Tohya soundtrack? Track05 has taken so many lives.
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>>121244256
But UBW is much better adaptation than Zero with superior directing and pacing(considering not linear source material).
Person who wrote this seems like "adult anime for adult person like me" baka.
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>>121246316
Kagetsu Tohya's soundtrack was great, I personally disliked how track02 was handled but that's me.
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>>121246324
NeoGAF is the one place that seems to actively hate on UBW for some reason.
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>>121246261
I most associate this track with sad seiba ;_;
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>Not using the anime soundtrack for Tsukihime
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>>121246379
>not Sorrow
Anon please, she has her own theme for her sadness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDMXVvHSnJ0
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>>121246409
What anime?
You mean that fanwork by JC Staff? The soundtrack was god teir.
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>>121242383
Extra's alright because it at least explores and alternate universe and allows Fate to play out as an RPG, which is clearly what Nasu intended to do with the original idea. Zero's alright as a prequel showcasing a grail war where shit actually fucking happens.

Apocrypha is taking it too far. 14 servants is nonsense and some of them are just plain stupid, and then there's the "Kotomine Shirou" crap that's a load of nonsense in and of itself.
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>>121246448
If we could stop playing the joke that it doesn't exist that'd be awesome.

What tracks did you replace with the anime soundtrack in Tsukihime? I could never decide where to put Justice.
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>>121246416
Well, I associate a lot of themes with seiba
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>>121246468
Case Files is a nice premise, but from what I hear, the first volume isn't that great.
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>>121246499
What joke? My delusions are the strongest anon.
I never tried to replace them, I'd like to one day however.
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>>121246468
Extra's fine and I agree.

Apocrypha was just cashgrab to the max.
strange Fake looks fantastic however.
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>>121246468
Extra was fun, I enjoyed CCC the most and I can see why Nasu wants to write more.
Apocrypha's Team deathmatch was odd but alright to an extent and wasn't half bad.
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>>121246499
>If we could stop playing the joke that it doesn't exist that'd be awesome.
Seriously. This joke is too old, it's like people who are still using it are trying to fit in
>herp derp isn't sad Sacchin
>look at me I know that Tsukihime anime is shit and DOESN'T EXIST top kek, am I primary yet
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>>121246677
>disliking Porkslope Turkeyhandle
>disliking Arcade Bumstead
>disliking Atari Dumbledore
Hell I still have the whole "Use your Hair" pasta.
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>>121245621
Because he created them and they weren't super idealistic to a self destructive degree. Iskander killed his best friend in a drunken rage just because said friend said he was drinking to much and doesn't regret it in fact he's extremely fine with his life. Urobutcher hates people who can't accept life for what it is and makes them pay dearly for that in the most messed up way possible.That's why the people who do accept it be they good or bad get off fine when the dust settles.
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>>121246756
I like these, they sound funny.
"Tsukihime anime" was never that funny and isn't related at this point. Let's joke about remake that doesn't come out until 2030 instead.
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>ITT: Ultimate Sacchin can kill Servants.
Discuss.
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If you're NEET enough to bother with VNs than yeah, do what /a/ says

Otherwise washing F/Z & F/SN is the ideal.
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>>121246901
F/SN is actually babby's first vn though
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>>121246833
>until 2030
You might want to add 50 more years to that.
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>>121246099
>sex scenes
What?
>Iri monologues
Sadly, yes.
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>>121246914
Alongside MuvLuv and Clannad..
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>>121246914
well duh, everyone knows it's the naruto of /jp/

EOPrimaries think they can look down on others too is the funny part, they're failures by the standards of their fellow failures
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>>121246316
This is way better than what's on the OP, and this is like over a decade old.
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How tight is Saber's pussy?
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>>121246899
Regular Sacchin can kill Servants already.
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>>121247137
Please do not ask such rude questions on Valentine's Day.
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http://vgmdb.net/album/48786#

>01 Unlimited Blade Works 5:30
Overture.
>02 Rin:Remembrance ~ Shoukan 2:35
Rin's theme, probably from the prologue.
>03 Archer 3:10
Archer's theme. Given the run time, probably a mix of two tracks.
>04 Shirou:Akai Kioku ~ Invocation 2:01
Shirou's theme, if I had to guess, probably from when he summons Saber; "invocation".
>05 Face to Face 1:00
Could be anything. Maybe the music that played when Lancer killed Shirou?
>06 Souls to Fight 3:39
Action music. Given it's only track six, maybe from episodes 0-1?
>07 Storm 1:18
>08 Vortex of Fate 4:28
I have no clue about track seven. Eight is long though and has "Fate" in it. Maybe a suite of the main theme from various episodes?
>09 Rin's Melody 1:03
Rin's theme variation.
>10 Daydream 1:45
>11 A Sword,No Words 1:51
Don't know about track ten. Eleven could be Berserker; "no words".
>12 Purple Shade 2:19
Caster.
>13 Into the Battles 1:26
Action track.
>14 Arrow 0:32
Archer's theme variation.
>15 Rin:my wish 0:59
Another variation of Rin's theme.
>16 Two Hearts 1:51
Guessing this is the music that plays with Shirou and Rin on the porch; another version of Rin's theme.
>17 Reason to Kill 1:24
Could be a Kuzuki track.
>18 Fist of desperate ~ Awakening 4:27
Kuzuki vs Shirou music; "awakening", that's Shirou projecting.
>19 Dark Glow 2:52
>20 Unacceptable 1:55
These two are kind of vague.
>21 Rule Breaker 3:43
>22 Shirou:Nowhere to go 2:03
>23 Each Choices,Each Steps 5:39
>24 Far Away from You 2:10
I'm guessing these last tracks as a whole are all from the finale, but bits and bobs could from other episodes.
>25 THIS ILLUSION 4:04
>26 count it from zero 4:34
>27 down in the zero 4:55
LiSA's This illusion along with two suite tracks of Kajiura's music that she did as a guest composer.

I don't know, I'm just having fun trying to guess this stuff. Just a month away to see how wrong I am.
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>>121247178
Look you little faggot, all I asked was a simple question about some Welsh slag's cunt. Grow some skin and stop being a soft poof.
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>>121247253
>07 Storm 1:18
Guessing it's Assassin's track.
>10 Daydream 1:45
Probably the track that played during Archer's dream.
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>>121247489
>Archer's dream.
Rin's dream/Shirou's dream*
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>>121245587
I don't care how gay some of the lines come off as, this is my favorite scene in fate. Iskander and Gilgamesh interact nicely.
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>>121247489
That could be. I was also thinking Daydream could be the music for Shirou's flashbacks with Kiritsugu, but I think most of the tunes for those scenes were Kajiura's stuff.
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>>121247739
I always saw it as a Father/Son relationship rather than homosexual.
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I'm eager to listen to the saber vs kuzuki track, probably the best theme of the show
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>>121247253
Dark Glow and Unacceptable would be the bus scene.
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>>121247137
So tight even Rin's finger had a hard time inside.
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>>121248722
What does zetsurin choujin mean? And why is Tohno Shiki called that in Japan?
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>>121249147
Something along the lines of unequaled/absolute/ultimate superman.
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What's the story on all three of these
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>>121249353
The top images omits the next line fucking up the context of the statement.

The second image is Rin teasing Archer.

The third image is Lancer pointing out that Saber has the stats to withstand his noble phantasm which has the ability to alter probability.
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>>121249147
>>121249349
>And why is Tohno Shiki called that in Japan?
Nanaya blood > everything
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Why is FSN so shit?
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>>121249353
IIRC didn't Rin say the 'die if they are killed' line? I think they might have been talking on the school roof or something.
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>>121249349
>>121249476
Thanks.
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>>121249353
The first one is taken out of context by the anime. It's meaning is that Shirou relied too much on Avalon and he won't do it anymore.
the second one is Rin being stupid and/or captain obvious.
the third one is that Lancer's Gae Bolg swaps the cause and effect of things, so his NP never misses. Only a high enough Luck stat can make the attack less lethal, which Saber has.
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>>121249540
She says people "normally die when they're killed" on the rooftop in UBW.
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>>121242700
Hell, I loved that ED.

http://a.pomf.se/omfkuy.webm
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>>121241447
Do we know who draws this shit? I mean how does it get approved?
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>>121244842
>>121244930
This, but I'd say watch it anyway. Carnival Phantasm is great.
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She was the first of her kind.
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>>121251610
The first interracial loving pig, yeah.
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