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At this point I can't take Fate serious anymore. Why did

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At this point I can't take Fate serious anymore. Why did they have to do this with FHA?
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>Fanservice
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>>119467464
Because it's fanservice?
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The game is 8 years old or something and you can't take it seriously anymore? Oh you're EOP peasant, sorry.
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So you're saying that there was a point where you did take Fate seriously
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>>119467490
It's not service if it makes a serious story look like comedy?
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>EOP peasant
>peasant
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>taking Fate seriously
>at any point
Hopefully it'll all be over once ufotable pushes HF and UBW 2nd cour out the door. This shit has gone on long enough.
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>>119467464
Its called a fandisk for a reason anon, maybe you're just not a real fan.
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>>119467683
This won't die until 2017 so good luck.
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KALEIDO RUBY PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
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>>119467723
Maybe I'm just not a real faggot.
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>>119467464
>I'm a borderline secondary who never read KT, never got a bad end, never played Melty, and never watched Carnival Phantasm

Silly shit is nothing new in TM.
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Is FHA even canon or what?
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>>119467464
Oh Rin why must you be such a cutie with cat ears on.

FHA, you dont take it serious. You enjoy it because you can.


sorry for the shitpost, Got drawned by Rin again.
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>>119468026
You should watch Carnival Phantasm though, it's pretty funny. Dont call yourself secondary just because youre are new to the franchise, you are a precious individual like everyone else.
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>>119468173
>precious individual like everyone else.
I don't think anyone here's a precious individual, and certainly not some filthy secondary peasant.
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>>119468173
I was pretending to quote OP.
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>>119467915
Yeah, Ilya is pretty slutty.
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>>119468117
>sorry for the shitpost,
its ok its a fate thread
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>>119468102
Second Magic makes just about everything Nasuverse-related (that's been acknowledged by Nasu) canon.
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>>119468223
No need to pretend. We don't have prejuducises against homosexuals like you here.
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>>119467464
The stick was made by one of the most powerful modern mages of all time as a sentient conduit for one of the most OP magics of all time. He made the stick insufferable and obnoxious-looking so that it would be used only sparingly.

If you consider the kind of guy Zelretch is/was/will be, it's a perfectly fine turn of events.

It's a fucking fandisk. Just have fun.
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>>119468419
>just have fun
Do I look like a fucking clown to you?
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>>119468419
Why the fuck does he not get involved in major events though, if he's a good guy?
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>>119467464
Your mistake was in taking it seriously on first place.
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Which one was better? FHA? Kagetsutohya?
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>>119467464
OP, drop that and watch Prisma.
Yeah, It seems a typical majokko, but it's the first Urobuchi's fate series and the latter episodes are more tragic and dark than Madoka and Psycho Pass.
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>>119468461
Judging from your posts, You do.
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>>119468102
No it's a dream.
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>>119468463
He was involved with the single most major event in the history of the Nasuverse, the death of the Crimson Moon. And it took just about everything out of him.

Generally, he prefers not to get involved personally and instead support the people that do.
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>>119467635
Exactly.
FUCK this shit. Fucking Japan starts out good and then fucks it all up with it's shitty fanservice.

Can't they make a good, serious anime with engaging plot, interesting characters and NO spinoff fanservice titles. Jesus Christ, it gets annoying after 1000th time.
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>>119468613
Just because it's a dream doesn't mean it isn't canon.
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>>119467464
Kaleidoscope, nigger.
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>>119468642
Surprise surprise, Fate is porn first and foremost. It's almost like you guys forgot that.
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I always die. This game is shit.
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>>119468650
Whatever is outside the dream yes, but what's inside isn't.
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>>119468642
Personally, I think it's cathartic as hell to see the characters able to enjoy themselves after all the shit they go through in the main works.

Besides, there are literally tons of "serious" anime without lighthearted spinoffs. Go watch Monster or something.
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>>119468718
git gud
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>>119467528
>EOP peasant
I bet you take your money out of ATM machines
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>>119468719
The dream still happened. And the dream was made to reflect what actually would have happened with those characters in that situation.
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>>119468829
Yes, but the situations are so out of place that there are inconsistencies. Zouken being alive for example.
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>>119467922
What are you doing on 4chan, then?
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>>119468642
You know you don't have to play it faggot.
>>119468709
It hasn't been about porn since 2006
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>>119468749
This nigga knows. Characters can't honestly be expected to be serious all the time, even after the time for seriousness has passed, or just during their downtime.
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>>119467464
Anything that isn't 100% needed to beat the game isn't part of the game's story, it's just an extra thrown in, like omakes. The Kaleidoscope/Chest scene was great, and I haven't even seen Prisma yet.
Also, if you expected FHA to be all serious you're in the wrong VN. Teaching Caster to cook and other filler stuff is basically good fanfiction, nothing more.
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>>119468905
Zouken survives in Fate and UBW.
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>>119468929
>It hasn't been about porn since 2006
That's why the scenes were only lazily removed, without a true rewrite. FSN was written to contain smut, deal with it.
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>>119469002
My point was that the characters are being inconsistent about him and the world is too.
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If you were taking it seriously from the beginning you were already doing it wrong.
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>>119469088
Of course there are inconsistencies, it's an amalgam of world lines. That's a plot point.
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>>119468614
Well, why didn't he support anyone during any of the grail wars then?
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>>119469166
>Implying he doesn't
He's basically the progenitor of the Tohsaka magecraft. Unless I'm misremembering, Rin invokes his name during her summoning ritual. And let's not forget the Jewel Sword.
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>>119469155
And those world lines are being rendered through Avenger so it isn't"exactly how they would act". You can only say that for Caren and Bazett which entered it from the outside.
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>>119469166
Because Zelretch generally doesn't give a fuck.
He can just hop over to the next nice and peaceful universe.
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>>119467464
>At this point I can't take Fate serious anymore.
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>>119469319
Yeah, but wasn't that like way back? And I'm pretty sure he didn't even mean for the sword to be used for that purpose.
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>>119467915

Wouldn't she do it for rubies?
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>Not enjoying the movies.
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>>119468614
See this is the type of shit I wish I knew about the Nasuverse! Where can I learn all this shit, do I have to read the wiki forever or learn moon. Cause I played tsukihime and fate and try to get into anything type moon I can find.
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>>119469319
>Rin invokes his name during her summoning ritual
Every proper mage says something about an "Ancestor Schweinorg" during their summoning ritual, that's because he helped design the entire war.

>He's basically the progenitor of the Tohsaka magecraft
He handed Nagato the Jewel Sword blueprints as homework and showed him some tricks with jewels.

>>119469166
Why should he care about anyone?
He's an immortal vampire who can travel parallel worlds.
If shits gets fucked up in this one, he can just find the next one which is almost the same as the one which got fucked up.
Him defeating the Crimson Moon is a universal thing, since there's only one of each Type too.

>>119468614
>And it took just about everything out of him.
He got turned into a vampire guy and he's a ridiculously old man.
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>>119469626
That's hilarious. Also, anybody who took this preteen chuuni fantasy seriously from the get-go needs to get their head checked.
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>>119469660
Why did he age?
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>>119469656
Character materials, shit like Kagetsu Tohya and Hollow Ataraxia, and a little bit of speculation grounded by what's actually in the above.

>>119469660
>Why should he care about anyone?
He obviously cares to some extent, or else he wouldn't have helped setting up the ritual in the first place.

>>119469763
>Why did he age?
What's canon is that he can never again use his Magic or his Magecraft on the level he did against the Crimson Moon, and he was a human during the majority of that fight, so my assumption is that he burned out some of his circuits by overloading them, similar to Archer, and it prematurely aged him as a result. THEN he got vamped at the end of the fight.
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>>119467464
>muh serious porn for mature people
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>>119469166
>>119469166
>>119469166
Grail wars are small shit to him, and he did help in 2 ways. He gives Rin (and probably others) magic artifacts like the kaleidostick and jewel sword, which can make a massive difference.
Unless I remember it wrong, he also helps Rin in London after the grail war in at least 1 route, I can't remember what he did though.

He probably knows/thinks the grail war will have an acceptable outcome even without him involving himself more directly. He has his own wacky space time adventures to deal with as well.
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>>119469717
>preteen chuuni fantasy
What the fuck this this even mean?
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>>119468642
Its a fucking EROGE you normalfag. Go back to ANN.
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>>119470031
If you don't know that eroge have pretty good literary standards for certain authors and demographics, go back to gaia, EOP.
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>>119469974
>he also helps Rin in London after the grail war in at least 1 route, I can't remember what he did though.

He saved her ass from the Magic Association coming down on her, and took her as an apprentice.

Which may well have been a worse outcome, though in the HF epilogue she still seems to be sane.
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>>119469974
Rin only had the blue prints for the jewel sword. By herself she had no way of creating it so it wouldn't of been that useful without Shirou.
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>>119470104
>this is what weaboos actually believe
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>>119469974
>like the kaleidostick
Also known as "Zelretch makes a real life Magical Girl show for shit and gigles".

>jewel sword
More like "Nagato's overdue homework"

>>119469974
>Unless I remember it wrong, he also helps Rin in London after the grail war in at least 1 route, I can't remember what he did though.
She becomes his apprentice.
That's the worst thing that could happen to any mage, except for Nagato.
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>>119470179
>By herself she had no way of creating it
While that is true, she probably would have been able to make more progress on it than any individual ancestor of hers did. Especially with Shirou's help minus Ilya/Justeaze's memories.
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>>119469626
One of those scenes i spent the whole time laughing like an idiot.

And don't forget Rider payback for the date right after it.
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>>119470218
人を象り閉じ込める檻
そしていつかは寂しさから手を伸ばし
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>>119470460
>私は彼を紹介し、日本語で投稿します
あなたは本当につもりその遅れをもしていますか?
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>>119470728
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>>119470728
>あなたは本当につもり
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