Trigger's next anime Ninja Slayer PV is out!
This has to be a troll? Trigger adapting shitty american "wanna be wapanese" LN?
Its like them making anime based on a comic of that Bleach copycat.
Also, that Akira screen and Linkin Park OST...
This. Ninja Slayer is LN made by AMERICANS, that were weaboo enougth to pay for it to be published in Japan.
>This has to be a troll? Trigger adapting shitty american "wanna be wapanese" LN?
>not doing the most basic research
the "translated from American tweets" thing is basically a joke
"Ninja Slayer was originally posted piece by piece on Twitter by Japanese "translators" Honda Yu and Sugi Leika, allegedly adapting the story from American authors "Bradley Bond and Philip "[email protected]" Morzez". After the series grew in popularity, Enterbrain published the first Japanese-translated volume in print, Ninja Slayer: Neo Saitama in Flames, in September 2012.
There appears to be no evidence of an original copy of Ninja Slayer, and the original creators "Bradley Bond and Philip [email protected] Morzez" appear to be fictional authors created to produce the illusion of an elaborate backstory, and have no record of an accurate bio."
basic google search research dude
>DAT AMEMIYA ANIMATION
>DAT BOOM BOOM SATELLITES
YES YES YES YES YES YES
This looks like a mix between Inferno Cop and Musashi Gundoh. Yet there are still going to be people who take the show seriously and criticize it for the lack of logic or stupid plot. The manga has salarymen in power suits who hunt bio-enhanced sumo fighters just to get their tumors, you should leave logic at the front door.
Oh, and it has some nice waifu material.
B: That was of course because we wanted our work to be read by people around the world. We also had the ulterior motive of eventually formally publishing it in America, getting money and fixing Morzez’s printer. (Note: Ninja Slayer was originally printed on his home printer and bound.)
M: Originally, we were going to re-use the material we printed a long time ago, but we never did. That version is old and is a generation behind what has been published in Japan.
B: We had the strong desire to base the visual images on what was published in Japan, and after negotiating with Enterbrain, we decided to first keep releasing it like this on TOM. Why was that? Warainaku’s artwork is just that wonderful. His artwork gave us new possibilities and inspiration for Ninja Slayer.
M: Ninjas were originally from Japan. But a lot of Americans like ninjas and have made countless ninja films and games. With that influence, we created this series, and it gained popularity in Japan and a Japanese artist drew pictures for it. It’s amazing. I like mixing and remixing. This will make Japanese and American culture mix even more and the series will continue to get even more chaotic.
Boomb boom sattelites are overrated
After liking the Xamd "shut up and explode", DLed all their songs and deleted 100% of them, since 99.9% were poor uninspired electro rythm with no value.
The song used for this trailer is quite poor too. Dont get it why people are excited about them.
Give us 9mm parabellum bullet insted.
>reverse-troll early birds
suck a dick
99.9% of their tracks are shit. Plain shit. Why would i listen to japanese shit just because they had 1 nice track for anime OP, where theres million western that do the same thing better and more proffessional.
BBS was one of biggest disappointment music wise. Most other "anime" appearing bands at least have few tracks worthy listening. BBS is one track wonder.
>crazy, colorful artstyle that would only work if it had fluid animations like Kyousogiga or something
>whole PV is a slideshow or panning effects
It'll probably have the same problems as KLK. I already fell for it once, TRIGGER
>Sees this thread
>Oh these guys saw this trailer too, let's see the reaction
>"It is written by American! I don't believe your 'it is ruse. It is actually written by Japanese' bullshit! fuck off weaboo!"
Being Japanese is sometimes suffering because of watching lack of information like this.
the problems KLK had were that the writing and story and plot were weak and bland.
This is based on what are supposedly books that are popular and successful so with any luck that might not happen this time.
You're wrong, just because you liked one of their tracks, you expected all of them to be the same shit, listened to them for 5 sec each and got disappointed. Your opinion is wrong, all of their track are great and they're not hacks.
Who is this Megatron looking motherfucker?
Not the MC I tell you what
I don't see how those things are correlated. NGNL is written by a hue with a pen name that has always been the case, Bradley Bond and Philip [email protected] Morzez don't exist.
they will need a little bit more budget but other than that my willy is happy
You need to see nicovideo.
It becomes a hit because how wrongly it says about japan, and they loved it because it's comical.
LN author knows very well the japan AND intentionally write wrong things just to make it more interesting. And it worked.
There's some girls, doll joints a best
>That fucking Ninja scarf
I am so Hyped
The thing that surprised me when I went to Japan in August is just how popular Ninja Slayer is even without an anime. Hell, I even picked up a Ninja Slayer doujin at Comiket (it's all-ages, basically a NS vs Archer vs Strider fight. Wish I picked up a Kikokugai one). So, if nothing else, this show might be a success simply because it promotes all the existing merchandise.
Basic info of Ninja Slayer:
Trigger's 2015 spring anime.
Anime 1st PV
Official English site(Novel, Manga and shopping)
English PV for the novel
Official animation site
Teaser trailer for the anime
An interview of the authors
Katana sword and online sorcery PV, featuring Neko Neko Kawaii
>TFW I fell for the "Mako's family are a show-within-a-show gag manga family created to keep the public pacified" fake-info
why would they show that off in a trailer? besides, I wouldn't imagine an Amemiya-directed show really looking like that promotional art.
assuming this is what the show will look like after all: the color choices are really fucking odd and I don't know what to think of them. they just feel... too overdone and unnatural, especially with those light-green highlights. that shade of red is also very garish; it looks looks like the default MSPaint red.
I also don't really care for the backgrounds.
maybe it's too early to judge the style based purely on that footage. perhaps it might grow on me depending on how it's used in the show in the long run.
I won't really be super-hyped for this, but I'm very curious what Akira Amemiya will do as series director. I'd rather have seen an Ootsuka-directed Trigger series, but Amemiya should definitely work towards getting a more personal voice in the industry. he's done some cool stuff but overall he's struck me as more just a sum of his influences than a special individual figure a la Sushio, Yoshinari, Imaishi etc. but (I assume??) he's younger than all those guys so maybe he can 'discover himself' here.
They`ll not even qualify to the Clayton academy.
Meanwhile, picked Technoboys Pulcraft because of Witchcraft works ED (and currently Trinity Seven), and they did not disappoint at all.
No, she's the last one in the PV, that's a different girl. Also this franchise has a shit ton of Pixiv art.
Reposting this from ANN discussion board:
>Just FYI, this is not actually by US authors.
>That's a fake backstory by the publisher, it's all supposed to be a tongue in cheek send-up.
>Quote: The American creators, "Bradley Bond and Philip [email protected] Morzez," gave permission to a team to translate and post the story piecemeal on Twitter. After the story grew in popularity, Enterbrain published the first Japanese-translated volume in print, Ninja Slayer: Neo Saitama in Flames, in September 2012. The story then inspired three comic adaptations from Enterbrain and Kodansha, as well as a audio drama with Toshiyuki Morikawa as the title character.
>There is no actual original english work (just try and find it!) and those original author's official bios are all fake.
>This is the official "english" site for the original work:(I deleted the link, as it is currently infected with malware.)
>As you can see the links are broken and don't lead anywhere.
>Actual proof however is written in the official wiki in the last of the FAQ:
>http://wikiwiki.jp/ njslyr/ ? よくある質問# l719042b
>where the answer vehemently denies it while providing lots of evidence to the contrary...
Some of the novel PVs are great
Pretty sure this is her
You are retard. The original english version just got published, the authors are giving interviews left and right.
You are weaboo that wants it to be "japanese", closing the eyes on fact its same shit as Afro Samurai.
The fuck, Looks like some old school show you'd find at like 6 in the morning.
Could be good.
>Would it be Madhouse
We`d get highly stylized but high quality colorful Ninja action with superb fight animation and still looking realistically acceptable
>Would it be Production IG
We`d get gritty grim looking dark cyberpunk NeoSaitama with violent action and suberb martial arts action
>Would it be Mappa
We`d get an entertaining, bombastic, superbly animated action flick looking like a Holliwood movie.
>Would it be Xebec
We`d get a harem anime with sexy girls, and nothing else matters, since Xebec girls are truly sexy.
>Would it be Ufotable
We`d get a dark/purple grim world, where between hours of dialogue are some stellar fight scenes in Epic setting and story.
>Would it be JC Staff
We`d get an ok quality animated, generic character design harem/drama by Mari Okada. All mixing together, giving a nice replacement for Index Season 3.
>Would it be KyoAni
they`d never pick shit like that up
>Would it be Gonzo
We`d get stylish looking smooth and cool action that at some point turns into QUALITy when they run out of budget.
>We got Trigger.
Slideshow. Offkey characters. Superstylized shit no relation to what people expect.
I wonder what kinda show this is. Drama,Edgy,Grimdark. The setting certainly doesn't look positive at all, this could be Triggers first anime where everything isn't positive and people will die.
holy crap this IS MSPaint red... well, almost.
My niggas. Here's hoping for the lead singer to survive until their next album,he's so fucking brave and their music just hits all the right buttons for me,it would be sad to see him go.
Why is the PV in 4:3?
Are all these scenes just a flash back?
Trigger did the same this in Kill la Kill
more like studio trigarish garbage
>they don't have the budget to even animate the PV
Shouji Saeki and still work in gainax. Shouji is prepared Hōkago no Pleiades and Hiroyuki Yamaga is with Uru in blue.
That project aren't very good but better to the trigger trash
my point is that it's a really odd, unnatural choice of color, much like the green lighting; too saturated to look natural. it's the kind of feeling that picking default MSPaint colors can result in.
but the coloring seems to vary depending on the tone of the scene, and that might turn out to be a very good thing. some color schemes might turn out to be failed experiments while others will look great.
W-Wait, an adult MC with a wife and a kid?
>he doesn't like unnatural, saturated colours
that looks much better than the bits in the trailer with the green lighting (and that manga looks amazing in general, that artist has a fantastic understanding of what made Nagai's 70s art appealing).
you can have super eye-catching, unrealistic colors that still look natural in a way. Dead Leaves and Panty & Stocking mostly did it very well.
I'm not sure how that Ninja Slayer scene could be fixed; I lowered the saturation but now the green just sticks out more.
>yet we have more animation for this than for any other spring show
Explain this, Triggerhaters.
>they're just pretending to be stupid now
I think you've missed the message, so I'll repeat it again. The director worked on Inferno Cop. If something looks stupid, it's most likely intentional.
It has JC Staff tier animation; I guess that's fine for people now? It DOES some interesting things with hand and leg movement, they animate that more detailed than the rest of the show.
Trigger break out from the mold and everyone shits on them for being different.
How do they win.
>breaking out of the mold by animating a LN
By making good shows
I, for one, am pleased
Too bad for all the people who have such a hard time enjoying things
he's obviously influenced by Imaishi but I wouldn't call him an "Imaishi clone"; he doesn't strike me as someone who learned how to draw stylized by looking at Imaishi. he's inspired by Obari and Yamashita too (and of course Kanada). but he seems to lack the personal quirks of people like Keisuke Watabe.
>taking this PV seriously and thinking the final product will look like that
why would that be a huge stretch?
It's a red/green contrast, there's no saving it.
You can think what you want about KlK and Nichijou, but LWA was great.
This doesn't look too impressive so far though. The more detailled original designs looked better than the reinterpretations they did, and Im not too sold on the colors, even if it's to play the whole "'murican take on japanese culture" theme it look a bit TOO shitty.
>barely looks like a Ninja
>dull looking designs
>why would that be a huge stretch?
It would be a huge stretch considering the original novel is an enormous parody of the "hollywood" portrayal of the japanese ninja/cyberpunk genre, as well as taking into the account how facetious the studio and its staff are. The key visuals (>>118056167 and >>118056215) are drawn by the author of Afro Samurai manga, so there's a high chance the adaptation will look like that.
It's fucking brilliant, I love it!
I love how Ninja Slayer is basically the result of a Japanese author creating a parody work of how americans view anime and delivering it through an elaborate ruse that actually convinced people that it was actually written by americans. It's fucking awesome, also getting some serious late 90s vibes from the designs and art style which I also love. Definitely watching this one.
You're both dumb. They will probably change the coloring and the 4:3 format since the actual PR says "this is the show that people watch in the Nina Slayer world" but not the designs.
I feel that Imaishi would have gone further with the sketchiness, made the poses sillier, and the faces would have been constructed differently. overall it would have been cartoonier.
that said, Amemiya drew this, and he's clearly trying to ape Imaishi 100% here.
I feel the 80s from this more than the 90s. Like a caked up Akira.
Either way im with you. I havent been this excited for an anime in a good while. Everything looks gorgeous, and it has the potential to be really really funny
Kill La Kill was decent enough
Inou Battle is for paying the bills cause we can't survive on the meager offerings of Original Anime
I do hope they make another original after NS though, even if it turns out shit it's sure to be a hell of a ride.
>the actual PR says "this is the show that people watch in the Nina Slayer world"
do you have a direct source to this?
and why would they not change the designs if these are all 'cartoon versions'?
>The key visuals (>>118056167 and >>118056215) are drawn by the author of Afro Samurai manga, so there's a high chance the adaptation will look like that
Amemiya is the director; I honestly can't see them giving him that type of style.
Yeah I can see what your saying there, I watch most of my 80s anime in the 90s though since I was too young to enjoy it in the 80s so that's probably where the confusion comes from.
Pretty much all PV are like that, unless they are CM in wich case you get still images.
The only pvs I can think of wich didn't use footage from the actual product would be Rebuild 3.0's and episode 25 of Evangelion (since the footage used was kept for the movie).
>2013: Inferno Cop, Little Witch Academia, Kill la Kill - 3 original productions
>2014: Inou-Battle - light novel adaptation
>2015: Ninja Slayer - light novel adaptation
"Break out from the mold".
Off the top of my head, an example of a trailer that got some scenes reworked in the final product (and that was shown a little more than a month before the first episode):
Yeah, sure, most trailers use whatever the studio got on their hands, but that doesn't mean that things won't change in three months.
Well it's just a bunch of pretty concept arts and promotional illustrations. If we'd judge an anime only based on those, then G no Reconguista would be AOTYAY instead of Turn A Gundam 2014
(wich isn't bad either).
>Nice looking artstyle
>Seems 80s as hell
>Girls are cute enough to please moe fans
>OST seems different from most stuff today
There's no reason to complain before it's even aired
>B-but it's light novels, light novels are Hitler incarnate
It's not about what you make or adapt, it's how you handle it. A well handled LN adaptation is better than a poor quality original.
Well, Akira and other 80s anime used garish color schemes that played nicely off of dark, futuristic and intricate cityscapes.
Also they're perfect because my word is law and I think it looks amazing and fresh.
I see what you mean. I was thinking more of the artistic direction as a whole. Reworking a few scenes is indeed common and more than possible. Im not questioning that.
But if this shot is representative of the art direction for action scenes as a whole, then it's probably too much work to change it halfway through the production.
It's not. Pose to pose is a wildly imaginative animation technique. Good animation is an illusion thatallows your mind to fill in the blank space and percieve motion. Things animated in the particular style you're criticizing are actually far more technical and impressive than your average movement with a high framerate, as the timing and weight have to be perfect in it s execution.
The only anime studio I can think of which doesn't run into scheduling problems would be Kyoto Animation.
So it is concept art, thank you.
This is too big to be a storyboard drawing. It's probably a sketch for a layout.
Sketched chara-designs, so they probably aren't final. Thus it is concept art.
If this isn't a research for a promotional illustration, then I don't know what it is.
It doesn't take any skill to put loads of in-betweens in your animation, finding the good key poses and the right timing and spacing is way more difficult.
The crazy shit japanese animators does in that regard never cease to amaze me.
Smoother doesn't necesseraly means better. It's a different style of animation.
>objectively poor animation.
And you are an objectively poor human being.
I don't know if you're trolling or not but I do find the idea of "more frames = better" or "more detail = better" really odd
it's the art/animation equivalent of saying "more instruments = better music" (something no one ever says)
No. Natural compared to NS, sure. But it's clearly dated and ugly. If you dont agree, then simply look at other 80s works instead. And keep in mind that I said caked up. Like many other previous works, Trigger likes to go over the top.
Well-made limited animation is inferior to well-made full animation. That is a fact. Ideally, animation should be done on 1s, but unfortunately there are budget and time constraints. Kanada-style animation is just an attempt at making the most out of limited resources, but it can never match well-done full animation like the sort seen in Disney animation for instance.
the color combination looks much better here, the green and red highlights are subtler and the background + darker shades create a nice contrast.
You cant even begin to qualify "well made" for me to have a conversation with you.
I think you're retarded. Years of hanging out on 4chan with morons must have instilled in you an intellectual confidence that you are incapable of backing up.
Are you serious? Akira is so magical and perfect that its not dated and doesnt look like an 80s romp?
Are you incapable of understanding pieces of something can be ugly while the execution is beautiful?
To answer your question, I love Ninja Slayer's style. It's also ugly as shit, but it works.
>being able to tell what decade a work comes from makes the art 'ugly and dated'
you can clearly tell classic Disney animation with Milt Khal animation all over the place doesn't come from the 2010s. guess that's 'dated and ugly' too.
you're much better when you're not shitposting, dude.
>Ideally, animation should be done on 1s
>animating on 1s
If you want to be smooth, you simply animate on 2s and people will barely spot the difference.
Ideally, timing depends on the scene and the movements rather that some ironclad rule that you pulled out of your ass.
Disney isn't well animated because it's 24-frame-per-second-smooth, but because they tried to find the best way to convey movement through their drawing and timing. You could put all 2D Disney and Dreamworks movies on 2s and the animation would look just as good.
Sure having smoother movements add a lot, but it's not always required and sometime artistic direction can make it a bad choice.
It all depends on context.
Dont put words in my mouth asshole.
The 80s aesthetic is ugly and dated. Not just in Akira; In general. Postmodern artists use the 80s look (again: ugly and dated) in a contrasting and referential way, not because it's traditionally good looking.
>commonly-mocked 80s camp and the top-notch visuals of Akira are even close to being in the same ballpark
come on dude.
you could have just said "the characters' clothes look 80s-tacky to me"
and even then, they're... pretty normal, to be honest. not getting a 'ridiculous 80s' vibe from them at all.
think of it this way, a super-smooth version of this classic Kanada/Imaishi collaboration http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiM_95fl2TA wouldn't be just a 'high-budget upgrade'; it would be a vastly different experience.
it's like saying "Peanuts would look better if everyone was realistic"
still not really seeing the overt 80s camp in Akira's clothing though
That's wonderful. The coloring is undefensably bad, the mecha/armor design is a mess, the douga line quality looks low, character designs are bland.
The chances that all the kanada style-ish animators will prefer to work on Punchline instead just incresased exponentially. As they should have.
Oh, if people want the basic premise of the story revealed...
Ninja from the past developed many techniques...one of which was binding their souls to artifacts to evade death itself. In the future these artifacts have been uncovered and ninja from the past now walk the Earth once more having taken possession of people in this era.
I think they did 12-13k+ for the final one IIRC
KLK has incredible merchandise sales too.
They already confirmed they are but I can't remember when they said they were going to. It might actually be after Ninja Slayer+LWA2
Whoops wrong page posted should have been this oh well
Studios usually do adaptations to build up some money since they get paid to do it, so sales don't matter so much for them to make money back.
They pulled KLK off by having Aniplex put money towards it.
So we can probably expect something new in the near future.
Well, in retrospect it IS something that makes sense coming from The Ultimate Westaboos.
I'll watch the hell out of it. Inferno Cop was awesome, I love KLK whatever the haters say and Inou Battle was interesting if nothing else. Trigger is still a higher-than-average studio, even if it is worse than old Gainax at the moment.
Say what you want about Trigger, they know what fun is. Everything else is not sure to be in their work - animation, creativity (though that one happens more often than not), hard work, making sense... But It Will Be Fun.
And most of the times it will have the other things too, though... Unless it's Inferno Cop, where everything is sacrificed for Fun.
So, can't wait.
No problem, I'm looking forward to this since it feels like a different take on Ninja Gaiden+Trigger
Have you watched it past episode 3? I would argue it got better the further it went.
Have to agree I though about dropping at the beginning, though. I stayed and I wasn't disappointed.
It's still not their usual production, though.
I like that he wears dark red which is what ninja actually wore.
Yep, it's very cheesy and going for style over substance. It's a revenge story as
MC's family have all been killed by ninja during their feuds
But I don't know what it becomes past the basics
I picked up Hitsugi no Chaika because I somehow confused it for Black Bullet. I ended up dropping Black Bullet though.
I guess I'll be picking it up. That origami scarf looks so fucking cool, and the girl is cute too to boot.
Well, I'm still looking for the original rar of the translated manga and where I could have put it...
Yeah it would be best to just continue from there, saving all those just to repost is killing the flow.
There are many, I'll post one. Just for you, anon.
nonsense; the art is pretty solid, some of the designs are great and looking at the concept art makes pretty obvious they're taking this project as seriously as you can take something goofy and campy. the coloring is just... I dunno, an odd experiment.
perhaps I've just watched the trailer for too long but the coloring is starting to grow on me. it's still very awkward at times, like here >>118056568 but I'm starting to feel like a huge asshole for comparing it to Problem Solverz.
it's pretty obvious that the color schemes will be quite varied and they'll experiment a lot with this bizarre coloring style; this seems to me like a double-edged sword. some of it will definitely look very awkward, but I have little doubt that there will be some great-looking scenes too.
Based trigger saving anime.
>mfw looking at manga raws
>scarfgirl becomes mc halfway through
i guess ninja slayer is just too op to be mc