Why didn't Archer just use nine lives in the fate route to beat bahsahkar?
I may be wrong, but don't they explicitly state that Berserker has 3 lives (out of 12) left after Archer is defeated?
Berskerer can still see and it takes too long to set up and leaves him too open for counter attack.
Also, we don't know the magical energy expenditure involved.
Archer killed Berserker six times. Five in the anime, but fuck Deen.
>It would require an Angry Manjew chopping off Shirou's arm and Archer being mortally injured to result in such a situation
I think you're confused.
I'm asking why Archer (EMIYA) didn't use NLBW to defeat berserker in the fate route, when he stays behind to buy rin/shirou/saber time to run away.
obviously his arm has knowledge of that shit in HF, and shirou+arm is like a weaker version of archer, so why wouldn't full power archer be able to kill him
Archer has years of experience and noble phantasms to draw from so he uses those to fight Berserker. Meanwhile Shirou is desperate and grasping for any little thing he could use to win the fight so he kinda accidentally stumbles upon the idea. It never occurred to Archer that he should try tracing Berserker's weapon, he thought it was just a hunk of rock and he had way too many other options available to him.
Shirou has no means to count God Hand's revival magic. The phrasing "his life has ended twice over" refers to his self-destruction and his consumption by the shadow, not that he has died twice.
Shirou w/ arm is stronger then archer
right befor the fight he even says to the wind "no, can you keep up with me?!" and the wind is acrcher.
EMIYa wouldntve been able to prep and use nine lives
2 deaths prior to becoming tainted and losing god hand. Post-tainting Berserker can't regenerate or nullify shit which is why Shirou could kill him. What are you confused about?
Because the whole scene is Shirou trying to surpass Archer and barely doing something that Archer was not able to do in the first route? Read it again, there is a reason why the whole scene in the wind happens.
Didn't it only take about ten seconds from the moment Shirou stepped out of the trench to Berserker dying?
And that was with taking off the cloth and shit. The entire encounter was like three seconds or something.
That's fanon, the VN never says anything relating to that.
And A rank strength should be able too, and the scene direcly says that Shirou is replicating Berserker's strength.
>why am i in this war
>fuck, these other servants are in my way
>need to save my strength
>dammit, saber got me
>shitshitshitshitshitshitshit i'm gonna die
>i need all my power right now
>oh damn, the twin swords were better than i thought
Black Berserker does not have God Hand and is working on a single life. Shirou pulls out all the stops and barely ekes out a single supreme killing blow to stop the A rank endurance A rank battle continuation monster.
Black Berserker died twice, but still has all the protection of God Hand. Somehow, tracing a rock allows Shirou to perform an attack more devastating than Caliburn or Excalibur, and kill the mightiest hero, with A rank endurance, ten times in one blow so powerfully that he cannot even continue his charge with Battle Continuation rank A.
Yeah I don't buy Nine Lives Blade Works being THAT fucking powerful.
First, UBW is said to be something that only works against Gilgamesh and against the other Servants would be just something annoying but not broken.
And we are not talking about powerlevels, Archer is of course stronger than Archer arm Shirou, but about the theme of the whole scene and Shirou getting ahead Archer in that wind. Basically, he pulled a miracle victory that Archer was not able to. That doesn't mean that he is stronger.
That is said for the Noble Phantams, but Nine Lives is more a technique or fighting style, that is why he used Berserker's strength.
>Black Berserker does not have God Hand and is working on a single life. Shirou pulls out all the stops and barely ekes out a single supreme killing blow to stop the A rank endurance A rank battle continuation monster.
This one makes sense.
That has nothing to do with it. He cut off Berserker's hand on his own, even with a flawed projection that broke immediately.
The rank down doesn't apply to strength, or at least nothing implies or says it does.
>A+ Strength, nigga.
Is somehow more devastating than a Caliburn to the heart? That only got him seven times. And that was an unexpectedly incredible feat, caused by a miracle (AKA plothax).
Sorry, Hercules is strong, but not enough to kill himself ten times in one maneuver.
>First, UBW is said to be something that only works against Gilgamesh and against the other Servants would be just something annoying but not broken.
That line in the CM is still bullshit.
What the fuck is a "normal opponent" and how the fuck do they deal with swordspam that can trump GoB?
And it's not like UBW is Archer's trump card in every game he's been in and his desperation move against Saber or anything, no no...
>First, UBW is said to be something that only works against Gilgamesh and against the other Servants would be just something annoying but not broken.
Was Gilgamesh even trying? Couldn't he just out-swordspam Archer until Archer runs out of mana?
And swordspam seems highly effective against other Servants regardless if they're just fakes or not. I mean even if they're downranked, they still have to hurt a fuckton if they land a direct hit.
Because the VN never says anything about God Hand not being there, so that is just fucking fanon.
But it is using the strength that Berserker got, and that is superior to A rank. Nine Lives as Shirou uses it, anti-unit version, is a multiple slash technique.
No, it doesn't.
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Alter Berserker had God Hand stripped from him when he got consumed by shadow, Berserker was running on one life while rotting.
>That's fanon, the VN never says anything relating to that.
The VN specifically states he has horrible wounds and is just a barely living hunk of rotting flesh. Why would you think God hand is active in that state?
Really now? The VN says otherwise. Berserker was severely weakened from the shadow suffering multiple horrible wounds and his entire body was rotting. If it's rotting and the wounds aren't regenerating God Hand is not active.
Actualy swordspam is a pretty shitty ability.
I mean Gil starts out with 1000 swords at a time against Cu and the fight still lasted 12 hours
Herakles had absolutely no issue with beheading the hydra in ANY version of the legend.
Beheading the hydra was the EASY part, and the part he got carried away with!
The second labour of Herakles was stopping the regeneration of the heads. A large scale attack to eliminate all the heads simultaneously does not indicate any special amount of power behind them.
Like how Berserker regenerated his arm after Shirou cut it off. Oh wait, he didn't.
It's not a regeneration spell, it's a stock of resurrections. It only works when he's died.
>applying physics to heromagic
How stupid can ya be? It doesn't imply they all have enough power to blow away a hero with A rank endurance, let me tell you that. More than blow him away, each time, even, considering he apparently claimed ten lives with nine hits, and several of those hits were in non-vital areas.
If Berserker lost 2 lives before becoming tainted and still retaining God Hand, he'd have 10 lives left. Shirou only attacks him a total of 9 times, 9LBW + the final strike. Even though the name contains 9, he actually only performed 8 slashes. That would leave Berserker with still one life remaining.
I know, so? Him being able to cut him with Caliburn was because of miracle plot device(Saber). Or wait are you going to tell me he replicated Saber's B strength with it and managed to cut him with it?
Because it's not instantaneous >>116857582
And nothing implies that having more magical energy means he regains lives faster, it's just said that because Ilya does have so much that he can get back them.
Well, given that he's flynning with Berserker and then later with Gil...
I don't see how an attack aimed at the testicles is going to claim the life of a hero with A rank endurance/A rank battle continuation etc.
Remember, any attack that doesn't hit the spiritual core (head or heart) is nonlethal to a servant. Chopping their legs clean off won't kill them.
It's not the Saber presence boost, since it stops the moment Shirou stops projecting the sword. If it was Saber, given that she's running towards him, it should have been getting stronger, no?
She actually tried to do the same with Gil, but according to CM3 it was just impossible so he was just eaten.
Zouken says later that Sakura has Berserker in the shadow just in case it is needed later.
>Here is what happens to a male, medically speaking, as his testicles are crushed:
>As the pressure on the testicles increases, some males would quickly pass out. Most would pass out prior to the outer membrane of each testicle tearing open. Some unlucky ones would stay conscious due mostly to adrenaline. Even if they pass out at some point many would wake to vomit uncontrollably, some would also lose control of their bladders and defecate as well. Almost all would have trouble breathing since the pain is so severe that they would be forced to hold their breaths in a type of shock as most of the muscles in the body tense in response to the severe pain. Some would also lose their peripheral vision temporarily has the brain struggles to handle the overload of input from the testicles.
>After each testicle ruptures its contents would empty into the scrotal sac. The pain would continue from the rupture but the inside of the testicles have no pain receptors. Severe swelling would set in at once. Some males would go into shock around this time, some may have heart attacks or have medical issues due to the high blood pressure they are no experiencing. Some would die from the experience.
>This damage would be beyond repair and the remaining parts of the testicles would have to be surgically removed.
Can you kill a Heroic Spirit if you crush his balls?
>The Spiritual Core gradually diminishes as a result of massive magical energy expenditure or sustaining bodily damage. Under these adverse conditions, the Heroic Spirit’s expenditure of magical energy will escalate, and should damaged be inflicted through powerful magical energy, curse, or Noble Phantasm, the Spiritual Core will be destroyed, and the Heroic Spirit will no long be able to remain materialised. The heart and head are connected directly to the Spiritual Core, thus they are the weaknesses of Heroic Spirits. Sustaining damage at these locations will significantly weaken the Spiritual Core.
The heart and head are weak points, not the only lethal points.
Well, given that Saber never actually used Caliburn as a Servant and that with a proper master she has A-rank strength, it wouldn't be farfetched to say that's her original strength.
Shaving off damage elsewhere should be harmless against a Black servant, who have an endless supply of magical energy nad regenerate such damage easily. So now not only are you saying he killed Berserker ten times with one hit, but he did so with literally the LAST hit which was not part of the nine lives blade works technique, because the other hits could not have claimed a life from him being a Black servant.
>>As the pressure on the testicles increases, some males would quickly pass out. Most would pass out prior to the outer membrane of each testicle tearing open. Some unlucky ones would stay conscious due mostly to adrenaline. Even if they pass out at some point many would wake to vomit uncontrollably, some would also lose control of their bladders and defecate as well. Almost all would have trouble breathing since the pain is so severe that they would be forced to hold their breaths in a type of shock as most of the muscles in the body tense in response to the severe pain. Some would also lose their peripheral vision temporarily has the brain struggles to handle the overload of input from the testicles.
It scares me when I realize how they got this information.
Last time someone tried that it didn't work out
>The Morrigan next came in the form of a rough, grey-red bitch-wolf [and she bit Cuchulain in the arm and drove the cattle against him westwards, and Cuchulain made a cast of his little javelin at her, strongly, vehemently, so that it shattered one eye in her head.] During this space of time, whether long or short, while Cuchulain was engaged in freeing himself, Loch wounded him through the loins. Thereupon Cuchulain's anger arose within him and he wounded Loch with the Gae Bulga ('the Barbed-spear'), so that it passed through his heart in his breast.
>"Grant me a boon now, O Cuchulain," said Loch. "What boon askest thou?" "'Tis no boon of quarter nor a prayer of cowardice that I make of thee," said Loch. "But fall back a step from me and permit me to rise, that it be on my face to the east I fall and not on my back to the west toward the warriors of Erin, to the end that no man of them shall say, if I fall on my back, it was in retreat or in flight I was before thee, for fallen I have by the Gae Bulga!" "That will I do," answered Cuchulain, "for 'tis a true warrior's prayer that thou makest." And Cuchulain stepped back.
>it wouldn't be farfetched to say that's her original strength.
It's pretty farfetched actually. In that scene he replicates Caliburn not her strength and it gets a boost in rank because Saber.
Shouldn't Sakura be a full Grail by the time she absorbs Assassin? She did absorb Gil and he was an Archer. Why did she even need EMIYA's soul in the first place.
I think the problem we have is that it was never explained how exactly that works, because Saber is the only one that it seems she went through the whole process so we get a status page.
>Yes, but that's not what caused the sword to move on its own with enough force to block the axesword.
You don't know that. NLBW he at least mentions replicating it not here.
I'm saying the idea that he has ten lives gets more ridiculous the more you think about it.
None of the eight hits target the heart (except perhaps the one at the rib), and only one targets the brain.
Black Servants literally cannot die unless the brain or heart are destroyed. Any other damage is superficial! Black Saber was cut in half at the waist and did not die!
So. Of the nine hits, at least 6 were completely superfluous, and the 3 that did hit important zones were apparently enough to kill him ten times, by that conjecture.
I find it endlessly more credible that he has one life, and Shirou nearly killed himself just managing to take it.
So Shirou fighting with Gil in melee was also a miracle?
>Upper arm, collarbone, windpipe, temple, diaphram, rib, testicles, and thigh.
All look like lethal hits to me.
Speaking of which.
>Q: In Sakura’s Route, Archer seemed to already know of the existence of beings like Angra Mainyu. Did he have experience in battling this type of enemies in other eras?
>A: He fought such things when he was alive, but had to retreat because there was nothing he could do. Also, after reaching the Throne of Heroes, he gained an understanding of the target of the Counter Force.
Does that mean he faught such things 10 years later after the Greater Grail was dismantled?
So what about Kanshou and Bakuya, which let him block a Servant level fighter?
Or UBW, where he manages to beat Gil in melee. Are you a human could hit hard enough to shatter Noble Phantasms?
Not to a servant, and especially not to a Black servant.
The head or heart must be completely destroyed to kill a black servant.
Being bisected at the waist should look like a lethal hit to you too, no? Well too bad, it isn't.
"The first warp-spasm seized Cúchulainn, and made him into a monstrous thing, hideous and shapeless, unheard of. His shanks and his joints, every knuckle and angle and organ from head to foot, shook like a tree in the flood or a reed in the stream. His body made a furious twist inside his skin, so that his feet and shins switched to the rear and his heels and calves switched to the front... On his head the temple-sinews stretched to the nape of his neck, each mighty, immense, measureless knob as big as the head of a month-old child... he sucked one eye so deep into his head that a wild crane couldn't probe it onto his cheek out of the depths of his skull; the other eye fell out along his cheek. His mouth weirdly distorted: his cheek peeled back from his jaws until the gullet appeared, his lungs and his liver flapped in his mouth and throat, his lower jaw struck the upper a lion-killing blow, and fiery flakes large as a ram's fleece reached his mouth from his throat... The hair of his head twisted like the tange of a red thornbush stuck in a gap; if a royal apple tree with all its kingly fruit were shaken above him, scarce an apple would reach the ground but each would be spiked on a bristle of his hair as it stood up on his scalp with rage"
You misread. He lost 1/8th of his body.
Even Cu was working off one life with just that much gone. Don't forget Herakles has Battle Continuation rank A, which means you can't just kill him, but you have to kill him EXTREMELY HARD to get him to stop.
I remember reading the translation that arai did years ago and it said this.
>Having lost 80% of his body, I can finish Berserker off faster than he can kill me.
And I kinda trust more in this than the mirror moon version.
Yeah, it struck him right in the heart, you could say.
but doesnt archer want to buttfuck shirou like he wants in UBW?
If he could kill zerker he would have done it and then kill shirou to get rid of his frustrations. After all the fate route gives the shirou most likely going to go archer
Still makes a lot more sense to me if he has one life and NLBW killed him that once.
But this argument will never end, because we have no proof one way or the other.
Please continue until this thread has 600 posts and drops off page 10.
How do the wolves hurt Berserker if he can ignore any B-Rank or lower attack?
Because it's not a power of Archer's. It's a unique power that resulted from Shirou's using his arm and Shirou removing the limiter if you will. Archer can't remove his own limiter, but Shirou could in this situation because the strain of the arm broke his mind in a way where it could be removed.
The whole point of NLBW is it is attacking 9 lives at once. Berserker has precisely 9 lives left and God Hand has been ranked down due to the corruption of the shadow, allowing Emiya to actually connect with the attack. If he had used that on normal Berserker, it would have just bounced off his skin.
It would be a poor idea. When he's not blind or completely unaware of the situation, it's entirely possible he'd recognize his own attack and counteract it.
His mad enhancement is only rank B, he has the most barest thoughts in his head, so he can recognize stuff from his life like Lancelot did.
He only attacks 8 times at once, the last strike is separate. If he had a functioning God Hand against Shirou after losing two lives, he'd still be left with a life after the last blow and the last one shouldn't even work since he gains immunity.
Speculation is that he loses God Hand for the same reason Saber loses her burst ability.
That scene isn't worth anything.
Since it doesn't differentiate between damage and mortal attacks.
Or he's down to one life because the greater curse of Angra Mainyu broke apart the lesser curse of God Hand when it invaded his body.
There's multiple excuses for what might have happened, but in the end we just don't know. Nasu didn't give us a god hand life tally to follow. This entire argument will lead nowhere.
She loses the ability to not defend herself, and redirect it all to attacking.
She is at 100% defence, and has to use what is not been used defend herself to attack.
How did Shirou derive the Nine Lives from Berserker's ax-sword? It's not even a weapon that Herakles used the Nine Lives with in the past, it's just a piece of his temple the Einzberns used to summon him.
They specifically wanted to have two grails to control the gate as well as gain the power of the grail. Zouken expected Sakura to go comatose so he could take her body, so he wanted Ilya's heart, the core, to keep the gate open.
What if Berserker and Lancer switched Masters?
It probably just means the world attempting to crush the reality marble or something? And Archer doesn't have penalty because he's usually using his RM internally like Nrvnqsr.
And yet Shiro clearly needs an outside energy source because his own energy is not sufficient enough to invoke or sustain projection magic and UBW. Archer doesn't have that much energy either, considering he can't maintain UBW for very long without his Master. The "without penalty" must apply to some other thing.
Kayneth would waste his Command Seals trying to control that thing, and end up dead if he pisses him off with the wrong order. He's a real nutcase when it comes to commanding his Servant's every move.
The only FSN characters I like are the ones that aren't dumb horny teenagers.
Zero Archer >>>>>> stay night Archer
Zero Rider >>>>>>> stay night Rider
Zero Assassin >>>>>> stay night Assassin
Zero Caster >>>>>>> stay night Caster
Zero Lancer >>>>>> stay night Lancer
Zero Berserker >>>>>>> stay night Berserker
But that's a dumb horny Adult and a Old Man/Dog.
>worst enemies: Archer
>bye bye Iskander
>Kojiro > All Hassans
>all Casters are shit
>Deermud a shit
>Herakles a best
That's what FHA is for. The Slice of Life is pretty shit, after all.
Eww, that face is way too ufotable. I like Takeuchi's better.
>>Herakles a best
>gets killed by magical ginger
>>Deermud a shit
>pushes Saber's shit out of her anus
>lowly dog uses his best technique on Saber
>she casually dodges it
You a shit.
I'll never bow down to you, fiend.
>A rank divinity
>breaks out of chains of heaven
>want to serve lord
>dilly dally and thinks with his dick
>ntr's himself and dies like a bitch while crying and whining
Tokiomi's a moron. Who the fuck gives a shit about his Noble Phantasm giving away his identity when they know they can't do a damn thing about it anyway? He should have just let him take out as many Servants as possible right there, and then make him withdraw once his treasure chest runs low.
>using this argument
UBW and Fate routes have so many dumb and asspull moments that it's not even funny. I don't consider anything that happens on those routes canon. Gil wouldn't stroll around in casual gear in an ongoing war.
>abloo abloo canon events make me cry
>Gilfag can't live with his husbando being retarded as hell
Why are there so many "strongest" Servants?
>ha ha I summoned Gilgamesh the strongest Servant, we've won
>ha ha I summoned Arthur the strongest Servant, we've won
>ha ha I summoned Herakles the strongest Servant, we've won
“Heh heh, don’t make that expression. I know you’re envious of my riches, but do show more restraint. That undisguised expression is really tasteless. Like a dog that has gone hungry for too long.”
The enemy’s appearance did not come unexpectedly to Saber.
This municipal hall was the final gathering place for all the Servants that still remained. Even if the other enemies initiated attacks on each other, it would be too naïve to hope that they would perish together. There was still one battle left, and the adversary was undoubtedly one of Archer or Rider.
But—Archer’s intact armor and his leisurely presence, infused with prana, made Saber grit her teeth.
Undoubtedly, not a hair of this golden Servant had come to harm. Beyond unharmed, it could even be said that he was running at full capacity.
Saber had been seriously injured in the battle with Berserker. If she wished to defeat Archer, she could only pin her hopes on her opponent having been drained considerably in a battle with Rider. But at this moment, not even a single scratch from battle could be seen on Archer.
Unexpectedly, the King of Conquerors had been unable to exact his revenge for that one sword blow…Was this Servant, whose identity was still unknown to her, really so strong?
Now, even the last thread of hope had been ground out of existence, but in Saber’s heart still flared a flame of anger.
Chances of victory, or tactics—None of that mattered any more. Saber only thought it unforgivable—she could not forgive that even now, there was still someone who stood between her and the Grail.
"...You, get out of the way…”
E-rank luck bros a best.
Saber’s low voice was filled with hatred. The insane obsession caused her once clear jade eyes to fill with a murky yellow-brown.
The many wounds on Saber’s body could not stop her; roaring, she swung her sword at Archer. But after having made only a single step, her left leg was immediately pierced through by a Noble Phantasm that shot out of the air.
Saber fell to the floor, but gritted her teeth to prevent herself from groaning. Looking around, she saw groups of weapons from the Gate of Babylon continually appear in midair, all directed toward her, ready to be launched at any time.
As soon as their owner gave the order, countless primeval Noble Phantasms would shoot in unison toward Saber. She had literally become the target of a thousand arrows (3). As her left leg had been previously pierced through, she could not even dodge.
"Saber… this sight of you crouched on the ground, fallen into this presumptuous obsession, makes you even more beautiful…
Archer’s blood-red eyes held an uncomfortable emotion as he looked at Saber, who despite being mired in a hopeless situation, was still intending to make a final struggle.
"I don’t know why you are so obsessed with some wish-granting Grail. Saber… the fact that a woman like you exists can already be considered a rare miracle, no?”
Archer’s tone was unnaturally calm, as if it was not a dangerous enemy that was before him. This calm made the cornered Saber suspicious.
"Throw away your sword, and be my wife.”
In this situation, in this circumstance, Archer’s words surprised Saber. She was stunned by the sheer unexpectedness of it.
“Even if you don’t understand, don’t you feel happy to hear such words? It is not anyone else, but I, who have admitted your worth.”
Perhaps only Archer alone would think that such a conclusion was a matter of course. The golden Servant arrogantly lifted his head, looking before him at the first woman he had ever loved.
>stiffler for the rules, cynic Emiya who when the going gets rough goes through it all with determination, wit and grit
>loose cannon, hotblooded ladykiller Cu who tends to punch his way through suspects until the right one is found
I want it.
Who is their boss who constantly threatens to take their badge? Kotomine?
>Who is their boss who constantly threatens to take their badge
Rin could work, Iskander is the mayor.
Why didn't the magi use 7 of Berseker's lives to fuel the Grail?
Gilgamesh needs to take tips from this guy.
Tsukihime's only hope is to get Gen Urobuchi write a spinoff story about Shiki's father and have ufotable animate it.
>Gen Urobuchi will never write anything for TM
Why? Nasu is shit as a writer and Urobuchi shits all over him in writing talent. FZ was the best thing that was out from TM and it was all thanks to Urobuchi.
Nine Lives is what Heracles used to kill the Hydra before it could regrow its heads. It's specifically designed to kill things that regenerate.
So really the logic could go both ways. It either killed Heracles nine times, or it killed him once and the properties of the attack overrode Heracles' regeneration abilities.
4th and 5th gw Assassins all have horrible masters.
Fragments Hassan Assassinates plenty, simply because her master was an idiot and killed himself.
She only assassinated the one master (Apart from her own), the rest where just street punks she killed to eat their souls.
>This little fucker is pretty much already more dangerous than executors of the church
Just what kind of training Nanayas use?
There's nothing to really say about Shiki's dad.
He was really good at killing dudes. He killed every dude he tried to kill. No one stood a chance. Nothing particularly eventful happened until he met Kishima for the first time. Then Shiki was born and he decided he wasn't gonna kill dudes anymore. Seven years later, Kishima came and killed everyone.
We got all the important details laid out for us in Kagetsu Tohya.
> Avalon magically protects Shirou from brown hassan
> brown Hassan becomes yandere for Shirou
> probably sacrifices herself by shapeshifting into him later on
> brown Rider gets excaliblasted anyways
Fuck, HGW 5 shoulda had Lancelot instead of Herc. Then it would be a double grudge on Team Saber. That and Lancelot's fights are much more entertaining than seeing Herc just tank every attack like nothing.
Who came up with this badass Servant design?
>Why didn't Archer just use nine lives in the fate route to beat bahsahkar?
Because fate bahsahka is like the one you see in UFO UB(udget)W.
He's a higher agility, higher sensing, stronger demigod.
Basaka that shirou killed in FHF was a basaka after getting killed a few times, his body rotting and decomposing due to the shadows, his mind further rotting to the point he didn't recognize illya, and also BLIND.
I'm sitting here laughing at you fatefags. I liked Fate/Zero, but Fate stay is literally just teenagers talking a lot and fighting with ebin magic. But to prevent cognitive dissonance you're all forced to act like this show is AOTS or even AOTY just because you wasted so much time on that shitty VN.
Berserker's armor was designed by Hirokazu Koyama. He was told to give Berserker the appearance of a dark hero with a "bucket with a slit in it" for the helmet. He gave him a massive outer appearance, and utilized various parts similar to Saber's armor to assemble it. Only the slit in the helmet remained from the original design order, and just from the outline of the head, it is a rather simple silhouette that still manages to carry the impression of the armor. Within the discarded designs, there was a period where the slit featured a more eye-like design.
I accepted an order that said to make him look like a dark hero and settled on giving him a massive outer appearance. It runs counter to expectations, but if you look at it closely, you should see that it is assembled from parts that are similar to Saber's armor. It is so complex that it would be hard to make a video game sprite, huh? If you could do it, make it 3-D from now on. Make it look gloriously three dimensional and whatnot. [Koyama]
You should kill yourself waste of oxygen.
I love Rider, it's that she only she only got to do something in the last route. In the first two she's the bottom bitch. I guess it's to line it up with how Sakura was treated as they have a dynamic.
Why would Rin have Shirou permanently cripple himself as a magus by suggesting he transplant his circuits into Saber in Fate Realta Nua, when she could just tell him to bang Saber instead like in Fate Vanilla?
Who gives a crap really. I hate fans who love going around telling people the "right" way to watch something or read something just because they think their own experience is particularly special. These products are made to be consumed in the way they are presented. In the end it doesn't really matter, and as long as people have a good time there's no "right" or "wrong" way to watching or read stuff.