old xbox/psp and missing person question

You could use the PSP web browser without an email...

I mean without a computer.

His family only had one computer, his sister's laptop and he never used it apparently. So people wonder if he met someone online through his psp/xbox if that was even possible.

Yeah you can access the web without any playstation account. I used to use the Ebuddy messaging service (it was a web based MSN client) though sending messages was a fucking nightmare as you had to use the joystick or D-pad to write messages

>>19582704
and to add to this, I dont seem to remember any online gaming capability on the PSP? Can anyone confirm?

Okay so you didn't need an email address for that? And would there have been any trace of your activity?

>>19582690
>>19582698
>>19582711
Sony PSP had a web browser, it was slow but it worked just like a normal mobile web browser.

Or would it have been easy for a savvy, highly intelligent 14 year old to hide his messaging activity in 2007?

I never owned an xbox either, but you needed an email address/microsoft ID to access online gaming. Lots of my friends had xbox's in 2007 and always had "playing *game*" on their MSN tag line things, automatically created, kinda like when you listened to music, it'd display the track in the same place.

I'm into the youtube meetup theory though. PSP let you watch videos, so youtube was a thing.

>>19582716
ebuddy was accessed through the web browser, you cleared your history and there was zero trace of you accessing it.

Have you listened to this long podcast discussion with Andrew's father and sister? His dad really makes him sound like he wasn't into the internet at all. Worth a listen. Some people think Andrew may have talked to a creep online who offered to fix his PSP or something

Worth a listen. Definitely makes me lean towards concert abduction/youtube meet up. http://thinairpodcast.com/?episode=episode-29-andrew-gosden

>>19582738
Wouldn't you need an email/username or whatever to access
ebuddy? or just internet at your house?

I have a working PSP 3000 right here if anyone wants me to look at shit?
I remember that you could access your emails thrugh an app on it. you could also attatch a camera for a messenger that was built in to the firmware.

>>19582768
That would be helpful. IDK what kind of PSP he would have had in 2007 though. Apparently the newest one had come out very shortly before he disappeared

>>19582711
It did, FF Dissidia and a few like it rellied on wifi relay

>>19582763
yeah, you'd need an MSN/Hotmail/microsoft account and obviously a wifi connection wherever you were because thats how they connected to the internet.
Also worth noting, he had his PSP with him and depending on the train provider he took, he could have continued messaging a potential abducter during the journey as train companies such as Virgin have onboard wifi and have done for quite a while.

>>19582787
Okay, yeah, his dad said he didn't have an email but I suppose he could have been wrong or Andrew created one secretly just for gaming. His sister said he had pretty much no interest in her laptop though.

you could also use skype on PSP.
His device holds the key to his disappearance, despite what his parents say.

>>19582803
And authorities wouldn't be able to detect this communication at all?

>>19582800
>his dad said he didn't have an email
He's less than a year younger than me and there's no way he could have made it to age 14 without having an email address for various things online. This was the golden age of internet messaging, social networks were starting to blow up (especially Bebo, which was REALLY popular in the UK when I was 14) online gaming was a thing, skype was a thing. If anyone asked my dad when I was 14 if I had an email address, he'd be clueless too.

>>19582829
Apparently Andrew showed no interest in using his sister's laptop though & would have hated social media according to his sister. There was nothing at school or the library that would have indicated he was talking to someone. Was it common for lots of creeps to go trolling for young boys on gaming devices?

>>19582811
well yeah, the NSA/GCHQ have been storing people's data since before 2007, though ISP's have not.
Has nobody scoured the internet for any traces of his accounts? What were his interests? PSP forums, bebo, myspace, newgrounds, literally any site that was popular in 2007 and maybe some not so "top level" sites, though ones popular with "geeks"

>>19582829
would he have met up with someone who offered to fix his psp or xbox or whatever? does that even make sense? He brought $200 with him or something

>>19582849
I mean, apparently there was nothing. No trace of him really using the internet at all. I'd be interested to see what his school and library searches turned up but obviously nothing related to the case or talking to anyone online.

>>19582852
maybe, do we know his PSP was broken?
was he dumb enough to travel to london to fix a PSP when Leeds, Sheffield and Manchester are closer?
The youtube meetup is very plausible to me. Maybe an abductor convinved him over time that he would drive him back to doncaster, hence the one way ticket?
was he snatched by a pedo ring? they're a problem in london. I'm not talking about underground criminals, im talking international, political-linked pedo rings.

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https://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=27634048

this came from a Pipl search of his name. Note the "Member Since" date.

>>19582874
Maybe he met this person online and figured it was a good opportunity to go to London anyway. On the podcast Andrew's father said that they always bought one way tickets. Ticket prices are apparently weird and London and always changing, idk

>>19582887
Logged in 3 months ago...I have a really hard time believing he'd willingly leave his family, he was so close with his sister.

All of your assumptions are based on the current forms of communication. This was just, the early, very untraceable formats. Nothing spoopy. Outdated.

>>19582909


>>19582909
"Untraceable" You're fucking hilarious

>>19582909
not at all. I'm the same age as him and I remember 2007 like it was yesterday. Communications and online communications especially has always been an interest of mine. I owned a PSP and used it as a device to talk to friends.
I used the ebuddy messenger, you COULD make it untraceable if you wanted (and hey, everyone knew how to delete history because porn)
Skype was accessible on the devices, again, if you wanted to make it a secret, you could just log out after every use.

or maybe he just fucked off because he watched Reginald Perrin and thought it'd be fun? Maybe he's just living on the streets? or maybe that Anon from Wales that claimed to know him wasn't trolling?

>>19582909
No kid leaves his family like that. He got trapped, by someone. But someone picked him up right outside that train station. And he was gone. He got lied to, and tricked. Everything points to it. Gone, like someone whisked him out of there in a car. He met someone, or someone picked him out, got him on that train, and vanished him when he arrived in the city.

>>19582925
Gone. Like, not data worth saving. Inaccessible. Better term. Temporary. Easily removed. Take your pick you pleb.

>>19582927
Nobody vanishes like that. Not a single camera image after the train station. He got trapped.

>>19582931
I definitely think he was abducted and is dead but the question is whether he was groomed or it was a crime of opportunity. Don't forget, someone went to a mini police station and said they had info about Andrew gosden only to disappear when told there was no officer to take down his info

>>19582948
yeah the lack of CCTV imagery is very suspicious, so too is taking almost a month to find the King's Cross station footage, which is why the (rather extreme) theory of him being lured by an establishment pedophile ring is on the table.

>>19582948
There are no images after that one because the local police were incompetent, didn't ask for cctv to be saved and the images were deleted very quickly. fucking maddening, we would probably know what happened to him

>>19582939
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH you're a fucking gopher if you think all of the data is gone

>>19582960
nah, more like the local police force had no training for this kind of thing. apparently they suspected the father was abusing Andrew immediately and spend tons of time interrogating him

Go!Messenger was a free Instant Messenger program for the PlayStation Portable. It was jointly developed by SCEE and BT. It was introduced to the system with the 3.90 firmware update and the Go!Messenger icon was added under Network. PSP users could communicate with PC users through Go!Messenger, etc.

He could have been talking to anyone.

>>19582972
is there a timeline of the events anywhere? how long was it from the alarm being raised to when the person that sold him the ticket came forward?

>>19582979
Because use of the service did not meet Sony and BT's expectations, the service was discontinued on 31 March, 2009.[2] Subsequently the 5.50 firmware update removes the Go!Messenger icon from the Network group.

So yes, gone. Archiving everything is a new thing.

>>19582981
unfortunately it was a while because the school called the wrong house number to say that Andrew didn't make it to school and left a message. so hours were lost before the family even noticed he was missing. I think the search into London began the next day

>>19582979
thats true, he would've had to hide the fact that he created an email address & made it seem like he had no interest in using his sister's laptop at all. there was no evidence whatsoever of an email address

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/5xiwk7/my_theory_on_what_happened_to_andrew_gosden_2007/

Solid theory on the whole ordeal. The one way ticket was possibly due to a promise made to drive Andrew back home instead.

inb4 reddit etc.

>>19582698
Yes it was possible

>>19582778
I had my PSP fat at school all the time during school and at my home web browsing, whenever we're a open Wi-Fi connection I was always able to connect and send emails, watch videos etc.

Why are missing people /x/ related?

>>19582845
if you knew anything about the internet at that time, it was more of a chance of young boys trolling adults into becoming pedophiles

>>19585259
Speaking from experience are we?

>>19582900
what the parents say doesn't really have to reflect what was actually going on. Most 90's parents are completely disassociated with their kids. Most kids from that era act completely different around their family than they do around their friends, or when they are alone.

>>19585263
actually, yeah. I thought grown men were hot when I was 8 years old. By the time I was 10-12 I was faking as an adult on mmorpgs and trying to score an internet boyfriend/sugar daddy that could take me away from my conformist parents

it's more likely than you think.

>>19583020
>I think the search into London began the next day
No, the police decided that the family had done something and investigated them for quite a while before looking into the London thing.

>>19585266
Pretty much this. I had several email accounts my folks didn't know about and was somewhere around his age in that time

>>19585477
Well I guess 2007 I was 16, but not that far off I guess.

>>19582666
Cool trips

>>19585388
how u kno the police wasn't in on it too and the school

>>19586372
I wouldn't put it past UK police, especially Yorkshire, to be incredibly incompetent for almost absolutely no reason, but interesting point. That side should probably be considered more in cases like this. It took them nearly a month to even begin looking into the trip to London which is completely ridiculous.

Interesting to note, this was almost completely ignored by the media at the time due to a combination of Madeleine Mccann shit that started a few months before and the police not really investigating. Another odd thing I've just noticed, certain commentators make a point that he'd started walking to school a couple of weeks before his disappearance and imply something must have happened such as bullying for such a sudden change. He was no more than 2 weeks into the new school year, so probably completely irrelevant, he just decided after the summer holidays that he'd start walking instead.

>>19582900
Tagged actually lies about that
T. Tagged user back in the day

>>19582887
Amazing find. Who is Ester C?

>>19587738
It seems to have either 3 months ago for older users that presumably haven't logged in for years, and a slightly updated more than 3 months one for more recent users.

>>19582711
I put a stupid amount of time into Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops online in high school

OP can you post any info on this? Your original post provides no info. Any news or wiki or anything?

>>19582711
Monster hunter
Socom fireteam bravo

>>19585167
People going missing is a normal thing for you?

>>19590088
I think we just blew this case wide open, boys

cracky chan kidnapped him and subjected him to rothschild mind torture

>>19582939
Lol kiddo you have no idea what you're talking about

i bet he joined mi5

>>19582725
it wasn't slow, it was fast as hell, you just had shitty wifi.

How can we go about cracking this case lads ? Is it too late ?

>>19590681
never too late lad, he probably got fingered and killed desu